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LIVE from Orlando, Florida! All members of 70mm with voting shares sat around a table to discuss the second Friday the 13th horror movie in honor of Halloween. TBH we talked about our day at Disney for half this episode so just FYI to all the F13 nerds out there. Enjoy!
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What is 70mm?

A podcast for movie fans, inspired by Letterboxd. (We're not experts.) Each week artist Danny Haas, spiritual advisor Protolexus, and journeyman podcaster Slim discuss a recently watched film together. A brand new theme each month. Their love for each other cannot be broken. Or can it?

Slim:

Live from Orlando, Florida. It's your old past Lim with a special bonus Halloween episode of 70 a podcast for movie fans just like you. Disclaimer at the top of the show. Okay? We're not experts. This

Slim:

one is for the Friday 13th fans that have come to this episode. Just right off the bat, we're not experts, but we do love watching movies.

Slim:

With me in the studio is my

Slim:

close friend and artist, Danny Haas.

Danny:

Hello.

Slim:

And our close friend and movie insider, Pearl Alexis.

Protolexus:

Happy Halloween. I hope everyone's having a great time. Be sure to have your kids in before dark. Don't wanna have the young ones out there too long.

Danny:

Yeah.

Dale:

Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween, indeed.

Slim:

We have our very own producer, Dale Withers in studio, cohost, behind Bat and Spider, my favorite podcast. Welcome back to the show, Dale.

Dale:

Slim, Pro, Danny, thank you for having me. Happy Halloween, everyone. Happy happy what do they say? Samhoon? Happy Samhoon.

Dale:

Samhain? Samhain. Yeah. But then some say salmon, Samhan. Samhain.

Dale:

Samhain. Do they what did they

Slim:

say in Halloween 3? The the Irish. Samhain. Oh, Samhain. The evil, McGonagall that ran that company, whatever

Dale:

his name was. Conal Cochrane.

Slim:

Oh, yes. Tom Atkins, which we've talked about recently on the show. Yep. Love machine Tom Atkins.

Dale:

Remember his 8 cheeks and was it the fog?

Slim:

Did he show cheeks? The fog?

Danny:

Yeah. Is it the fog or, I don't remember. Or the or The howling?

Dale:

Or Halloween 3.

Slim:

It was not Tom Atkins. Alright. So this is, we do so we try to do something Atkins.

Dale:

Never been said before, probably.

Slim:

We try to do something every Halloween time frame. Last year, I think we released Friday 13th part 1 on Friday 13th. Might have been October. I I can't remember. So we thought, you know, we're going to be together in Orlando, Florida 70 millimeter, HQ in Florida.

Slim:

This is the Florida HQ.

Danny:

Florida HQ.

Slim:

We are currently together because we're recording our December episodes. So we can take the month off, be with our family during the holidays, whichever holidays you, celebrate in December. Happy December to everybody. So we're gonna do Friday 13th part 2. And, you know, if you're a super horror nerd, you just wanna get to that discussion, use the chapters, but I thought it might be fun to talk about, like, this trip that we're on because we went to Disney for a day Yeah.

Slim:

This week. Like, we went to almost every park,

Dale:

The 4 of us. We did. Which is

Slim:

just amazing to say out loud, like, just the 4 friends of this group. Yeah. We went to Disney and just had a day. 7:30 AM. Sunday.

Protolexus:

We went out there.

Slim:

Yeah. Rope drop. And it was Pearl's first time.

Protolexus:

My first time and listen. I get it. Okay? I get it now.

Danny:

You understand.

Protolexus:

The magic. I felt the magic.

Danny:

Oh. I

Protolexus:

was in the magic. It was all around me.

Slim:

Yeah. Ensconced. For

Protolexus:

over 20,000 steps. 8 hours. I mean, we were in Hollywood Studios. We were closing it down there.

Danny:

We did.

Protolexus:

There was a building closed and we got in. We said we need to see The Rocketeer set piece. They opened

Danny:

the door for us.

Protolexus:

They opened it. Yeah. Danny's pool inside Disney World.

Slim:

It's unreal. It's incredible. The magic that's in there with him. I mean, to set the stage, just a reminder, if you're here for Friday 13th part 2

Danny:

Right on the corner.

Slim:

Jason Voorhees and the rest of the counselors, the 30 counselors you murdered. Use the chapters to skip ahead of that discussion. It's gonna be great.

Dale:

Happy Halloween.

Slim:

I just have to say off the bat, I did end up telling this to my wife, but the weather in Florida right now and the day we were in Disney

Danny:

Mhmm.

Slim:

It didn't go above 72 degrees. Like, I didn't know that was physically possible at in Disney.

Danny:

I mean, it's like seeing a shooting star. It's very you're lucky to see it. You're lucky to have, been here and felt this feeling because it's not it's not around often. Right.

Slim:

And I'm gonna be back here with my wife and son while this episode posts. Like, we'll be in Disney for Halloween for our family trip.

Danny:

Yeah.

Slim:

And at the end of the night, like, when we're walking around Hollywood Studios, I was begging for a sweatshirt. Yeah. That's it was windy. You were

Danny:

You I don't see sweatshirts in Galaxy's Edge.

Slim:

Cloaks. I mean, there's just so much to talk about. But I mean, part of the first thing we did in the morning was go to flight of passage, Pandora. How did you feel about seeing Pandora? We've covered on this show.

Slim:

We've loved it. You saw it in real life.

Protolexus:

I mean, I I cry every time I watch Avatar. Each one, both perfect movies. Being being there was like being home. Like, it was a spiritual experience. I mean, amazing to see the floating rocks up there.

Protolexus:

I mean, once you're in it, I mean, I first ride of the day was standing in line. It's one of the best rides just get getting to flight of passage. But yeah. Amazing. Amazing that.

Protolexus:

And then, also, the little ride, you go to see the animatronic, Na'vi, in there. She was up and running. Yes. Just amazing. So thankful to finally get there.

Slim:

Where do we where do we go from there? We were in where do we start?

Danny:

We were in Animal Kingdom. We did the the Na'vi, Air Pandora, and then we went to the safari. We had a long time to safari. Yeah. We did the safari ride, and then we just kind of meandered our way out to see the tree.

Danny:

We made our way to Magic Kingdom for a while. Mhmm. Most of the time we spent there doing the classics. Horned manch. I got to share Dole whips with 4 or 3 of my favorite people in the world.

Danny:

I mean, there's an you asked me what's Say it. You asked me what my favorite the the greatest thing I could do. It's Dole Whips to my friends and then father my children.

Slim:

Thank you. Thank you. We're not gonna say where Disney's hand was at the chart where he said each of those, but we saw them personally in real life.

Danny:

Yeah. Just I have a great time at Disney, and then I love sharing it. I love sharing it, And I love that people love it with me.

Slim:

Yeah. You had the day planned out. And while we're in line for Dole Whip, like, a kid asked produce to make a trade for one of his pins on your sling. God.

Danny:

The magician. Amazing.

Dale:

And it was a Danny Haas pin that he wanted. Yeah. Yeah.

Protolexus:

Yeah. I gave him my Frankenstein. Frankenstein wants to. Did

Dale:

he pick Frankenstein? Yeah.

Protolexus:

Yeah. I asked him which one he wanted. I feel like, how can I, I mean, how can I refuse a child?

Dale:

I know.

Protolexus:

You know, the bravery to go up to me, ask me for a pen. You know, he gave me Rocket back. I mean, yeah, I'll cherish that moment forever.

Slim:

My gosh. And we saw Pirates of the Caribbean. We did that. It was closed until, like, at the last minute when we're about to leave. Yeah.

Slim:

We're able to pretty much get on that with maybe, like, a 5 minute wait.

Danny:

Yeah.

Slim:

Not even. Pirates. Johnny.

Danny:

Yeah. And then and then we made our way to oh, you bring this up. Please talk about Johnny Depp.

Slim:

Frodo Frodo asked a question about Johnny Depp on the rides that inferred that the movies came after the Pirates ride, but that Johnny Depp's character was always on the Pirates ride. Right. Like Captain Sparrow. And Perda was, like, almost shocked. Like, I can't believe how Johnny Depp looks just like Jack Sparrow.

Protolexus:

Nailed the casting. Nailed him.

Danny:

It was that was a great revelation for the night.

Slim:

So I just wanted to touch on that because I think it was amazing. Where do we go after that?

Danny:

Hollywood Studios, and, you know, Galaxy's Edge. We got to experience, the magic of, imagineering when it comes to being immersed in another world, a galaxy far, far away. Rise of Resistance, we got to ride together. It's it's a it's a phenomenal feat of a of an attraction experience. But then we closed out the night at Oga's canteen.

Danny:

We drank in the canteen on Star Wars land together.

Dale:

It was a perfect day,

Danny:

if I can be frank.

Slim:

It was. And it went off without a hitch?

Danny:

Yeah. Yeah. Really? Pretty

Slim:

much this entire weekend has gone out well without a hitch. It's not like, we haven't lost lost a recording twice. Everything's

Dale:

been perfect. Everything's been fine.

Danny:

Yeah. It's crazy. I can't wait to to talk

Dale:

about Friday 13th part too. Yeah. Not when we get there.

Danny:

Chomping out the best.

Slim:

But that was so ahead of this trip, I had talked to my wife and son. I had not been to Disney since they built the Star Wars stuff. Yeah. That was the last time I was there was when it was still under construction. So I I had talked to you guys like, I don't think I can do the Star Wars stuff without my family.

Slim:

You know, I'm trying to Yeah. Keep the magic alive.

Danny:

Sure. Yeah.

Slim:

You know? The marriage magic. But last week at dinner, she was talking to me with James, and they're like, you know, we were talking. If you wanna do the Star Wars stuff, you can.

Dale:

Wow. If you want. Wow. Because they

Slim:

don't really care about Star Wars.

Danny:

Yeah. It's a

Slim:

safe space.

Danny:

Yeah. It's a safe space.

Slim:

So when we went to Hollywood Studios, the first thing we did was, like, get in line for Rise. Yeah. And, you know, that was a good chunk of our day, was in line for Rise.

Danny:

70 minutes.

Slim:

Yeah. That was a long one. And I didn't know what to expect because I honestly haven't done any research on Rise. Like, I know, you know, one character is there in a hologram, and I didn't know I hate to use the word immersive, but I didn't know there was, like, a storyline. Yeah.

Slim:

You know, like, you're a part of, like, you get arrested by the first order and taken into a cell. Like, it's it's so weird, like, to look back on it, like, you're part of a story.

Protolexus:

Yeah. Yeah.

Slim:

And, I mean, there's there wasn't really a whole lot that happened while you're in the cell. So is that like a is that like a secret time sync? Like, or is that I guess it's like part of the queue, but it's like an immersive queue. Is that safe to say? Right.

Danny:

It's like it's like Disney's, magic in moving people around, shuffling people into different places. It's like, we know, that this is the big ride everyone's been waiting for for Star Wars. So how do we not have an hour a 100 and 90 minute line of people just standing outside? Let's make the line have these moments of immersion where you're talking to Rey, and then your group goes into the shuttle, and then you get grouped somewhere else. You're just standing in a line until you get into the ride.

Danny:

But what they've done is they've broken it up into these immersive experiences to where your your brain is tricking you that you are now in this moment, and you're not in line anymore. You're you're you're already you're you're experiencing this magic. So it's just it's Disney's way of doing that.

Slim:

It's like an extension of flight of passage where you're getting the spray on you because that's like Mhmm. You're still kind of technically in a line, but it's an immersive part of that line. Yeah. So the point when we got into the cars at Star Wars, I was like, oh, I guess we're at the end of the ride, the big the big send off. Oh, yeah.

Slim:

And, like, now looking back, like, it didn't even start yet. Right. Really. Like, this is the ride.

Danny:

That's the ride.

Slim:

You're finally in it. Yeah. So, like, it messed up my brain a little bit to, like, think about it that way because I didn't think about it in the moment.

Dale:

Yeah. Yeah. As soon as you start making, like, contact with the story of the ride, like, I can't remember if yeah. As soon as you're put into a hologram room, it feels like the ride starts there. Yeah.

Dale:

And it, like, triples the time of the ride or quadruples it,

Danny:

you know,

Slim:

because you're

Dale:

now you're part of an experience the entire time before the actual thrill ride starts.

Slim:

The coolest one of the coolest things too was, like, parts of the ride are outdoors. And we were finally got there. It's nighttime.

Danny:

Oh.

Slim:

So it looks sick, like, getting into the transport at night. And I was totally fooled at the end of the ride or maybe at the front when we first walk outside. I was like,

Slim:

this looks so real.

Slim:

And, like, oh, wait. I'm actually outside. Yeah. This isn't some hologram or, like We also didn't,

Danny:

like, perfect where we were we got in line at, like, afternoon, but 70 minutes later, the sun's gone down, but we've

Slim:

been inside the whole time. Yeah.

Danny:

So when you step outside, it's like, is this the dome?

Slim:

What are we in? I was totally fooled.

Danny:

It's a sunset back there.

Slim:

Totally fooled. We didn't need to talk about Kylo's animatronic, though.

Danny:

Let's bring it up.

Slim:

Do you have any thoughts on the Kylo animatronic photo? Did you love it or do

Dale:

you have other thoughts?

Protolexus:

It it definitely threw me for a loop, especially after seeing what some of the animatronics look like there. I mean, you know, we said we went on Pirates and I think there was, like, 20 animatronics in Pirates that were better than Kylo Ren. Just yeah. I mean, his hands. Yeah.

Protolexus:

No control of his fingers. Right. Just like 2 toothpicks moving up and down.

Slim:

I need someone to be scolded about what was going on with the Kylo Ren animatronic. It's it's I felt laughable, like, what that character was doing with his arms and its cloak, like, blowing.

Danny:

Mhmm.

Slim:

We could we could do better, I think. I mean, the the whole thing looks like it cost $500,000,000. Yeah. Put a little bit more into Kylo.

Dale:

Right. Kylo I forgot Kylo's cape is. I'm just like, oh my god. He's so angry with the force right now. His cape is just going nuts in directions.

Dale:

It's just like a gust of wind just taking it.

Slim:

But, I mean, that that land at night Yeah. The way we timed it where there there was barely anybody there, walking around was amazing because I had a mental image of that place being kinda small just from, like, pictures that I've seen, but it felt big at night.

Protolexus:

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, walking there was a point where we were in the cantina, we see the Millennium Falcon, then we go, like, down, one of the pathways, and it's like this whole other giant area that we didn't see yet. And I was like, woah. This is tier 2?

Protolexus:

It just kept going, really. I was surprised at how Yeah. And how big everything felt. Like, the buildings are like, they're real. They're huge.

Protolexus:

They're, like, 3 or 4 stories tall. It's amazing. Mhmm.

Dale:

It's so cute where they hit you walk in there and, you know, like, that big building is trader shops. Like, you're, like, trading with these, like, small time, you know, market marketeers that are trying to just, like, earn their little living, but they're selling, like, expensive Disney merch, but it's not even called money. It's credit. Someone got 2 with yeah. It's so crazy.

Dale:

Suns.

Slim:

And I think we've said it on the show before about how we wanted more, like, theme parks with just, like, sets. Like, in line At Star Wars, we were talking about, like, can you imagine a bat cave

Danny:

Right.

Slim:

At Universal where the queue is, like, you're just walking around the bat cave and maybe there's something that happens. Yeah. But how sick would that be? You walk into a room and the batwing is there, full size. Maybe the batmobile's there.

Slim:

Like, I would I would wait in line for 2 hours for that.

Danny:

Walking by the glass case of all the different bat suits. Yes. I mean

Slim:

There's so much you could fill in a line for the bat cave. And then, oh, yeah. Then we're saying, like, maybe they do a Smugglers Run thing where, like, the ride is the bat Batmobile. You get in there, but there's, like, 300 Batmobiles underground. So they're, like, everyone gets their own thing.

Slim:

Oh my god. Oh. We had so many amazing ideas in that line.

Danny:

No one listens to us.

Slim:

Where's Bob Eisner? Can we get him on the horn? Is he is he on not getting the paid patron? Is he only a free patron? Is that why?

Danny:

He's not

Dale:

a he's just a free free member?

Slim:

I mean, we give him a free Let's talk. Let's get in touch to see what we can come up with for Universal. The whole point of that story was that there's so many things that the Star Wars land that felt like sets that I could just kinda chill with for a few minutes, and that was great.

Protolexus:

Yeah.

Slim:

Like, the the the ship, the First Order ship.

Protolexus:

Yeah. We

Slim:

got some good amounts. We have a couple minutes in there, and I was able to gawk around for a while. It was cool.

Danny:

Oh oh, yeah. The hangar bay. Yeah. Very smart.

Slim:

Very smart. And the Millennium Falcon chilling there. We saw Chewy.

Danny:

Chewy came up top of the house.

Dale:

Next to the falcon. Chewy came to see us. He did.

Slim:

Yeah. I do think his his costume. Oh, boy. Just his

Protolexus:

I don't know.

Danny:

Oh, boy.

Slim:

His lips in the photo, like, and in real life. It just didn't feel like Yeah. Are you Chewy's cousin? Like

Danny:

Right.

Dale:

I don't know. Paul Sorvino. Paul Sorvino, Chewbacca.

Danny:

Shout out.

Slim:

Anything else from our Disney day? Just one day, but we got a lot done. We got a lot done. So proud. I mean, you could barely walk after you got out of the car when we went to a convenience store that night.

Dale:

I didn't I I was gonna walk in and, you know, they were gonna start putting, like, red poppies in my shirt lapel. Like, they thought I was I survived in an old war. I was permanently, you know, in in shape. I was not in any shape.

Danny:

Yeah. One one highlight for me was, sitting in a doom buggy next to someone who had never been on the Haunted Mansion before in his life. Oh. You know? And I'm sitting there praying, like, let everything be working.

Danny:

Let him get this Haunted Mansion experience that is, like, my favorite. And it real I mean, we really did. Everything looked great. Mhmm. I think there was an animatronic recently just added back in.

Danny:

The hearse ghost, and the graveyard was just added back in. So it was a full graveyard right now. Nothing's broke. I mean, it was great.

Slim:

Yeah. What'd you think of the Haunted Mansion, Frodo?

Protolexus:

I love Flight of Passage. I love Rise of the Resistance. But I think Haunted Mansion was the best experience there. I mean, it's the one the most where I felt like I was watching literal magic happen in front of me, where I don't know how I'm seeing what I'm seeing. Gosh.

Protolexus:

And to have that, like, as an adult, that experience like, there's not many things in life where you have that, like, sense of wonder and surprise and, like, confusion as to how you're even seeing what's in front of you. And the fact that you can have that experience there is Gosh. Nothing like that. It's amazing.

Slim:

Yeah. It was interesting too to hear, Danny, you explain the way that ride is set up, which, you know, we've talked about on your very popular podcast. Yeah. Very soon. Actually, yeah.

Slim:

Yeah. Or is it out now? I don't even know when this

Dale:

When this is released,

Danny:

yes, it'll be out.

Slim:

The Yeti is still broken? Is the Yeti broken?

Danny:

Who can say?

Slim:

The Yeti is potentially broken?

Protolexus:

We didn't get to confirm this weekend.

Danny:

No. Not all of us ride roller coasters.

Slim:

But I was saying how, like, the way that ride is set up, it's it's continuously moving those cars.

Danny:

Yeah.

Slim:

So at the end, we were kinda stuck. I thought something was broken but that Danny like told us that like because that ride is broken, you know, difficult to get handy capable people onto it. Like the ride the whole ride has to stop.

Danny:

Right. The Omni motor ride system has to come to a stop if it's either someone in a handicap or because it's it's it doesn't quit. I mean, if you if you can ride that thing fully through, but if someone needs to stop, that ride has to stop.

Slim:

Yeah. I'm actually getting run over by one of those cars. Like, you trip.

Protolexus:

Jesus. Jesus.

Slim:

You tripped the wrong way. You're getting, like, drugged through

Danny:

in

Slim:

one of the mansion.

Dale:

Yeah. It's, you're you have ground beef for a face after you turn on the floor the the brights. You turn on the the overhead brights, they call them, when you're working at the mansion. Yeah. You turn those on, and you see the massacre that that just occurred when a when a when a guest Yeah.

Dale:

Meets their fate. I mean, there's there's, like And then you try to put astringent on these wounds or try to make sure they're clean.

Protolexus:

Yeah.

Dale:

You're not you're not sending you're not not sending this this, patient in shell shock. Just trying to clean the wound.

Slim:

Oh, god. Wasn't there a war game for, like, PlayStation called Shellshock NAM? Do you remember that game? Yeah.

Dale:

There was a Shellshock NAM.

Slim:

Yeah. Wow. I mean, looking back, it's some of the video games we played.

Dale:

It's so I mean, my gosh.

Slim:

We're just Feel very bad for that. We're just on participants. Like, even now, just singing out loud, that's absurd. Remember, we love playing Shellshock NAM on Xbox? God.

Dale:

Oh, boy.

Slim:

Okay. Should we get into Friday 13th part 2?

Danny:

I think we should.

Slim:

Yeah. Jason Voorhees back from underwater. We thought we should go back to the well. Maybe we do part 3 next year, the 3 d version.

Danny:

3 d.

Slim:

Hertel, what's this movie about?

Protolexus:

Camp counselors are going back to, Crystal Lake. It's opening back up again after was it 5 years? The number of years since that fateful day when Jason Voorhees' mom killed everyone, but one escaped until, she's at home trying to live her life, and Jason comes for her, kills her right through the skull with something. Ice pick. An ice pick.

Protolexus:

Gruesome. Something gruesome. Cut to new group of counselors at the camp. They're getting ready for the arrival. They're getting familiar with the environment, but Jason is there.

Protolexus:

He lives on premises, of course. And these these children Stay polite. They're horny. They're horny for each other. They're horny for love.

Protolexus:

But Jason's more horny for death. He's gonna get them. Yeah. He's gonna get them on front of the 13th part 2.

Dale:

He's got a boner for murder. He's Jason.

Slim:

Well, Dale, you're the expert. You know, the Yeah. The Friday 13th super fans that are probably coming home from a Cherry Hill con to listen to this episode, maybe they found on Spotify, they've skipped through our Disney talk. They're still high on Yeah.

Dale:

You know, coming out of that Robert Englund,

Slim:

you know, probably doing, like, a face next to him, like alright.

Dale:

Yeah. It's like a blood on a shirt for the ones who spend extra money for the foot box.

Slim:

Now you're the expert on this show. You're representing those people right now. You've grown up with Jason and and a multitude of other slashers.

Dale:

It's a lot of pressure.

Slim:

No presh. What's your what's your long term history with Jason Voorhees? Tell us.

Dale:

Boy, TNT, USA, weekends on USA. I feel like on USA, 5 times a year, they had a Friday 13th marathon showing all the ones that they usually could, which usually started with number 2 or number 3. Never the first one. But I used to eat it all up. I don't know when I switched from being terrified of Jason to absolutely eating this stuff up, but I think the the USA cuts definitely helped, like, ease me into what I used to find, like, grotesque and be terrified of.

Dale:

Like, The Gate was a core, like, be myself. I'm too young, and I'm not gonna survive this kinda, like, movie. But after that, the USA cut for a for whatever reason, Freddie or Jason, just, like, made me fall in love with the genre and how, like, just easy non thinking it is. Yeah.

Slim:

You know? Just along for the ride.

Dale:

Yeah. So Jason's probably my first, like, heavy interest, like, franchise.

Danny:

Mhmm.

Dale:

Friday 13th.

Slim:

Did you watch the 4 k of this? Is there a 4 k of this? Do you have a disc of this?

Dale:

The second one? No. I I I I don't have the any 4 k's, but they did do a 4 k of the first one, maybe all of them at this point. Mhmm. I don't remember.

Slim:

Pearl, what was your mental state getting ready to watch the 2nd part of Friday 13th series?

Protolexus:

My mental state? I didn't really know what to expect. I haven't seen any of these sequels. Only watched the first one for the first time for the show last year. So this is, you know, I wasn't really sure what to expect.

Protolexus:

But, Dale, you kinda mentioned it of like a like a pure slasher. That's what really stood out to me about this is how it's like it's just like so simple. Like, there isn't any added layers other than there's counselors at this camp and Jason's going to kill them. Like, we we're not growing in any way in terms of a story. And I'm sure that happens later with the the movies after.

Protolexus:

But it just seems like this. It's just like, hey. It worked the first time. Let's just do the same movie again.

Slim:

Mhmm. And it's like the prime time too for, like, a slasher to just, like, do that. It's like your sequel. Like, let's just do it again. He but he's back this time.

Slim:

It had to have been pretty exciting for them to, like, see the hit that was part 1 and then be, like, let's bring Jason back and then Right. Let's just see what we can do after that. Like, they're just making money hard

Danny:

Right.

Slim:

With this character. Was Freddie out by this point? Nightmare on Elm Street? I guess it was. Right?

Dale:

Probably. When did this come out? 82?

Slim:

If we had if we had you in the sound booth, it would have been easier to check.

Dale:

81. Yeah. I don't know if, Nightmare on Elm Street was out yet.

Slim:

Really? Maybe. Didn't I thought, like, we had, like, crowned Nightmare on Elm Street as, like, the slasher that kicked off the show.

Danny:

Ground that?

Slim:

This is Somebody on this show said that. We should kick them off.

Dale:

Around that. Street was 84?

Danny:

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Slim:

How many, Jason Voorhees shirts do you own, Danny? Do you own any?

Danny:

I wouldn't say no. No Jason Voorhees shirt. And my only history is watching the first one one time for this podcast 1 year ago. I'm waiting for the hockey mask.

Slim:

Yeah. Because it still wasn't here. Still not in this movie.

Danny:

I was disappointed a little bit. Don't mind Baghead.

Dale:

But I don't have any

Danny:

I have no issue with this. And Jason falls into that, you know, the shape like like Michael. Yeah. These these bulking scary figures that are killing people genre that I find interesting that exists. Mhmm.

Protolexus:

All you have

Danny:

to do is run faster than this guy or wheel faster. Totally.

Dale:

Somebody's killing

Danny:

all these people.

Slim:

You see that meme that, Ev posted? Was it in Pat's Spider or ours of, like, Michael from Halloween watching Jamie Lee Curtis in True Lies? His eyes are, like, bulging out of his mask. That that sexy scene that she has. So good.

Slim:

Perdle, what's at the top of your list from this viewing that that stuck out to you?

Protolexus:

Let's see. Let's look at the notes here. What did I say the first time?

Slim:

Missus Voorhees' teeth. Oh. Oh my god. Her chompers. Those chompers.

Dale:

Today is his birthday.

Slim:

Driving the same Jeep from Salem's lot, missus Voorhees.

Dale:

Oh, yeah. Was she? They knew.

Danny:

It's the

Slim:

same model. It's the same model. I'm pretty sure it was a jet.

Danny:

Means we know she could close the door

Dale:

to save her life. Top was down.

Danny:

Excuse me.

Protolexus:

Let's just get into some of the killings.

Danny:

Oh, dude. Let's get right out

Slim:

of this. Yeah. We've already killed 30 minutes with the Star Wars talk, so nobody feel any pressure to have to go deep on Friday 3242 again.

Protolexus:

My favorite kill, the wheelchair kid. Oh, okay. This poor guy. I mean, he has this girl, the innuendos that are flying out of her mouth in in seconds. Innuendo per minute, from her is high.

Protolexus:

She's going to fulfill his dreams, as a camp counselor, but before she can get back, he gets a machete to the face.

Slim:

Worst timing ever.

Protolexus:

God. And then he's he's thrown down the Joker staircase. Like which I I don't think that staircase appears again in this movie. It's just suddenly there's this 3 story high staircase

Slim:

that he Obviously long.

Protolexus:

Pushed down, and then that's it.

Slim:

Can we Photoshop maybe Joker on those stairs or him on the Joker's stare stairs at some point?

Dale:

Assuming assuming it wasn't a stunt guy and it was just like a sandbag for a body, that that wheelchair stayed perfectly on the whole chest, like, the whole way down.

Danny:

That's true.

Slim:

Took weeks to get that one shot it it

Dale:

just kept doing it doing it. Probably because

Danny:

one bump, and if that dummy body goes flying, it turns into a horror film to a comedy. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Like, if you that body flop out of that chair.

Slim:

My god. That scene in Naked Gun changed my life. And he goes down the steps

Dale:

in that movie? He flips, like, ass overhead, like, 10 feet in the air.

Slim:

I feel like you can see the, like, propulsion smoke. After they shot him out of the wheelchair, you can see how they did it.

Danny:

The guy that played the guy in the wheelchair, I kept thinking was the actor from, Superman the movie that played young Clark. Clark. Oh. Farm. He looked like him so much to

Slim:

me. Remember Young Clark running in the Superman the movie? Well, guess

Danny:

can't talk about Well, he's on an inside couple of animals.

Slim:

That way. I've gone to that scene where Clark is running looked fake.

Danny:

Yeah. That's all.

Dale:

And he kept, like, leaping?

Slim:

He was like a gazelle? Yeah. It was like Kermit the frog running on screen. I just really I always forget that the start of this movie is, like, 20 minutes from the last movie. But I actually love I love the Mrs.

Slim:

Voorhees stuff all over again. I love when she gets, like, that poke that, like, fireplace poker on her back, and it makes no noise. But she is like, ah. And then, like, her getting decapitated still looks sick. Yeah.

Slim:

Yeah. It's one of my favorite, like, film decapitations ever.

Danny:

Top 3. Go.

Slim:

Top 3, Mrs. Of Voorhees. Mhmm. Number 2.

Danny:

Got that 1.

Slim:

I was trying to I thought I was gonna BS my way through this one, but I can't think of any other decapitations.

Danny:

Your BS meter is low.

Protolexus:

Aragon decapitation. Oh. Fellowship of the Ring. Okay.

Slim:

That's 2. Okay. Like, who's got a third

Danny:

one? Great one.

Slim:

I mean, who's got a 3rd?

Protolexus:

Highlander? Anyone? Highlander. Obviously. We nailed it.

Dale:

Obviously, Decapitation. Yeah. Easy top 3.

Slim:

Dale, what about you for this feeling?

Dale:

Well, my top my top, of the list would be Danny was talking about, you know, how you just have to run faster than these knuckleheads who don't really have Right. A drive other than to be quiet and to kill. But Friday 13th part 2 is interesting to me because this is the first time they've really they're gonna say, let's use this person, this Jason kid, whoever he is, like, let's use him as our murderer this time because missus Voorhees is definitely dead, and there's this whole chance for this new character. So they're trying to figure out this Jason character, but the guy who's playing Jason, he's, like, running across the, like, the dirt road to get away from the cop for for a bit. And you can actually hear him, like, grunting at times, like heavy breathing and grunting.

Dale:

And he he kills, our final girl from part 1 in the first 20 minutes of part 2. And the amount of detective work that that takes to be more than just a lumbering, like, kill machine that Jason is known as being, it's it's fascinating to me to, like, none of this happens on screen, obviously, and nobody thought about any of this while, like, staging the death of the final girl from the first movie. Right? Like, they just need to kill her off because it just makes sense for the story. But, like, Jason shows up in her neighborhood house.

Dale:

Who knows how far away from the lake, even if it is the same town? But, you know, he he uses a phone to call her and, like, prank call her to get her all uneasy. And, you know, he just has the workings of somebody who knows what he's doing. He just doesn't reveal any cards to any literally anybody.

Protolexus:

The deleted scene of Jason buying a bus ticket to to get to her town.

Dale:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The bag on his head. His, like, his mom's head is, like, wrapped

Danny:

up in a

Dale:

flannel, like, draped over his

Slim:

yeah. I wonder, like, how much time I guess they had to have something for the first 10 minutes to 50 minutes because if they don't have that, it's a pretty short movie. And what else are they gonna add there? Yeah. But I was, like I think I said I would have loved for the final girl maybe to even not even be in this one, have that scene come out.

Slim:

And maybe the third one is, like, her coming back to the camp and maybe she's the lead again in the third one and, like, maybe she feels responsible to, like, hunt him or be involved again.

Dale:

Yeah. Yeah. That would be really cool to, like because, you know, you don't she doesn't know whether her getting pulled under by the little boy was a was real or not. So she has, like, all this unfinished business with Lake and with the potential murderer that lives there. So that would have been that would have been cool.

Slim:

I mean but plus the final girl survives this one too. Like, they could buddy up, right, in the third one.

Protolexus:

Yeah.

Slim:

It'd be pretty rad. Danny, what else is on your list?

Danny:

I wanted to go back to the killings because there's 2 that I love. One is the the couple. The the I think the only people that are coupled up when they make it to this camp, And they get in trouble, I think, because they were gonna look at the old camp area where Jason was. They got in trouble for going over there. But when they finally bed each other, in their dorm and they get the spear through 2 of them, I was fist pumping because that was awesome.

Danny:

Like, I I wanted to I actually was hoping they would, like, pull back the camera a bit to see, like

Slim:

You wanted to see it.

Danny:

I wanna see them skewered through that bunk.

Dale:

Yeah. You wanted to see Yeah. Kilbos points of penetration. You know? The proof.

Danny:

Oh, man. Yeah. And then the second one I love is the perv that steals the clothes from the girl skinny dipping. My god. His death when he's strung up by someone's trap.

Slim:

Oh, yeah.

Danny:

Jason's trap.

Slim:

Jason's trap. Big brain Jason.

Danny:

Yeah. This dude's Jason left that trap?

Slim:

Yeah. Oh,

Dale:

yeah. Watching YouTubes on tying knots.

Danny:

Jason's trapped, and he's hanging there. And I just I love the slit throat, like, reveal. Like, she's like, I'm gonna cut you down or whatever. She comes back fully

Dale:

dressed, unfortunately. Too late for him.

Slim:

That guy was Yeah. Thinking he was gonna get laid so fast with his moves.

Danny:

Yeah. I don't know what he was thinking.

Slim:

I'll take your clothes. I'll slingshot rocks at you. Yeah. After I hit your rocks immediately.

Protolexus:

Can't you see we should be together? Yeah.

Danny:

Some schoolyard stuff.

Slim:

But, like, what is the story in story reason about Jason existing in the first one? Right? Because miss Voorhees is, like, getting revenge on her death son.

Dale:

Yeah. Right.

Slim:

And which is great. It makes sense, but Jason's alive. So what was he doing in the first one if you try to, like, connect the dots and or should I just not even bother?

Danny:

If are you saying the well, does the mom know he's alive? That's the thing.

Protolexus:

Yeah. Maybe she's protecting him. This is her way to protect him?

Slim:

Yeah. I guess if she doesn't know it's he's alive, it makes sense. Like, he's just in the woods reading books about buying tickets

Dale:

Yeah. Yeah. Right. Bus tickets. Had a store deadhead.

Dale:

How about neighborhood how neighborhoods work in electric stoves?

Protolexus:

I feel like the real answer is that they had no plan. Yes. Yeah. Because back to Danny's point, this is what I wanted to bring up next is, like, I still can't kinda can't get over that he doesn't have the ski mask yet. Like, all I I've never never having not seen these movies, but seeing Jason in his in the ski mask all my life, and then to watch the first two movies and it doesn't even exist yet, and that is, like, the iconic image that is everywhere that you see.

Protolexus:

So it not existing yet, it just means, like so they come up with it at some point. Like Yeah. During the 3rd movie. Right? So, like, someone had this idea of, like, hey, maybe we'll just have more Ski Max this time instead of a bag.

Slim:

Right.

Protolexus:

And it explodes, and it's, like, the greatest idea ever for Yeah. You know, this this killer.

Slim:

Millions and millions of goalie, hockey masks sold

Danny:

Yeah. It's wild.

Slim:

Across the country.

Dale:

Yeah. That's all you know with Jason. Jason's wears a hockey mask. That's how you know it's Yeah.

Slim:

It's it's the 3 d one. Right? Like, do you remember Yeah. Offhand what the planet what how he gets the mask or, like, what the story is?

Danny:

We won't we won't remember Yerf.

Slim:

We were definitely not gonna remember Yerf.

Dale:

Yeah. No. The one of the characters is just he's a big goofball. His name is Shelley, and he just, like, pranks people. And people hate him because, like, the pranks are just, like, uncalled for and a little, like, maybe extreme or something like that.

Dale:

But he's just trying to fit in and be, like, sulky because nobody likes him. But at one point, he's wearing, like, a wet suit, and he puts on a a hockey mask, and he carries around a spear gun, and he's, like, trying to scare one of the girls. And then Jason kills him and takes just takes his hockey mask.

Slim:

That's at camp. Is that at one at at a camp too?

Dale:

Yeah. Yeah. That's Yeah. That's at one at a camp, but I think they're all just going

Danny:

at camps.

Protolexus:

Crystal Lake. They're at yeah.

Danny:

Yeah.

Dale:

Yeah. For they're all well, no. Are they at a camp?

Slim:

There's one I remember.

Dale:

He just rent a house, I think.

Slim:

There's one I remember him being resurrected. Like, he gets buried at 1, and then these kids put, like, an electrical like a like a pipe in his grave, and then it gets electrocuted from lightning, and that brings him back from the dead. Like, honestly, kinda sick.

Dale:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. That's part 6,

Slim:

I think. 6? Oh, 6. Damn.

Dale:

Yeah. It's good. It's good. But that one features a camp. There's kids that's the only movie that features kids in the actual camp.

Dale:

The kids show up. The kids show up, and they're there. Yeah. And Jason

Slim:

the one where, like, there's a few scenes of, like, kids taking a dump. I remember in one of my reviews being, like, why why are there so many scenes of kids taking I think that's part 3.

Dale:

There's somebody in a in an outhouse. I gotta look up that review. Part 3.

Protolexus:

I got toity kill.

Slim:

Yeah. Your toity kill list would go insane with that one. I gotta look up their review.

Dale:

But, Danny, while he's doing that Yeah. The the skewer scene

Danny:

Yeah.

Dale:

They were gonna give the movie an x rating had they maintained the scene how they filmed it. Oh. So they had to cut it way down.

Protolexus:

Oh, wow.

Danny:

Does that footage exist?

Dale:

I think so. I'll check. I I might have a the Blu ray of where it exists.

Danny:

Oh, interesting. I'll check.

Slim:

I don't know how to

Danny:

give them an x rating.

Dale:

Yeah. So, like, how bad could

Danny:

it be? That's brutal. Then yeah.

Slim:

I don't have a review for 3.

Dale:

Believe it

Slim:

or not. So it must not have been that long.

Dale:

Maybe there's pooping and other I'm

Slim:

trying to find specifically a reference to pooping in my reviews.

Dale:

They asked Savini to come back for this one, but he

Danny:

was already on another movie, so he couldn't come back. Who is this? Here here we go.

Dale:

Friday 13th part 2. I've shouted. Like, some guy some other person did the the effects and not Tom Sui.

Danny:

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Slim:

It's Friday 13th, a new beginning. K.

Dale:

It's part 7?

Slim:

Far 5.

Dale:

Oh, par 5. Oh,

Slim:

yeah. And I give it 3 stars. Myra Yu says nobody in this movie wipes their ass after taking a dump. One of the craziest things I've ever seen. Everyone in this thing running from Jason with a dirty ass.

Slim:

I was like I think

Slim:

they're just on it. They do

Slim:

their business, and then they just get off. Yeah. Like, there's no TP being used. There's no dude wipes. Call forward for

Dale:

dude's life segment in December. Never been done. Yeah. Yeah. I always had an annoyance with that too.

Dale:

Like, everybody's sitting down. Mhmm. So you're probably pooping. Right. You probably gotta be pooping.

Dale:

Yeah.

Slim:

Pro, anything else in your list that we didn't cover yet?

Protolexus:

You know, the final act where our final girl is is getting chased, she has a whole world of directions to run, and she ends up back in a cabin under a bed. Like, you just got away from this killer. You're outside. It's dark. Maybe just run straight in one direction and see how far you can go.

Protolexus:

Like, he'll never find you.

Slim:

Right. Just lay on the ground.

Protolexus:

Yeah. Or lay on the ground. Next to a bush. Stop sneaking around. Stop going back in buildings, opening doors.

Protolexus:

Anything but that. Turn your lights on.

Slim:

Danny, anything else that we didn't hit from you?

Danny:

I love the scene of I don't know if you just said it because I zoned out for a second. Sorry, Frodo. When she puts the sweater back on and pretends to be miss Voorhees, that's such a rad moment, and I love that it fools Jason almost to the point of submitting him. He's like, is he down on his knees at some one point? Like, he's come in Yeah.

Danny:

Surrendering himself to mother Voorhees again. Mhmm. I I don't know. I really liked that. It was really cool.

Danny:

It was a cool aspect. I love the mirroring of the two faces because miss Voorhees' faces mhmm.

Protolexus:

I

Danny:

should make a pin of miss Voorhees' face. That would be really good. Yeah. That would sell. Yeah.

Danny:

I like that.

Slim:

I shouldn't have kid coming up here in Disney asking for miss Voorhees and

Dale:

pin. The, Pamela Voorhees' eyes were supposed to pop open at the end of this movie, but our our good director, Steve Miner, refused that and said that would be silly and that you can't be doing that right now.

Slim:

Because I wrote in my review, like, what is with the zoom in on the head at the end? Because nothing happens.

Danny:

Yeah. Yeah.

Slim:

It's weird. Yeah.

Dale:

It's just like an homage. It's just like an in remembrance of He thought it would

Slim:

be too weird, but and yet, Jason is alive. Jason got stuck

Danny:

in the movie.

Slim:

Yeah. Like, slow down, buddy.

Protolexus:

How about Jason's face being a Goonies homage?

Slim:

Yeah. He looks kinda weird.

Danny:

Yeah. Another pube Cranky. Road? Pube glued beard we'd have we've had to

Dale:

deal with here on this weekend.

Slim:

We've dropped a few teasers for future episodes so far. Oh, yeah.

Protolexus:

If you could piece that one together. Yeah.

Dale:

DM me directly,

Slim:

and I'll send you your price. Yeah. He looked like a werewolf. He was super hairy. There was hair coming out of weird places on his head.

Slim:

Was not expecting any. He looked like a I think he looked like a dog.

Dale:

Yeah. He wasn't reading any, like

Slim:

He's not reading any like

Protolexus:

like Home and Country.

Dale:

Keeping it clean, keeping a man's body clean as you're growing up books or

Protolexus:

something like that. Yeah.

Slim:

No. No. No. I don't think I have anything else. Wanted to touch on the skinny dipping

Danny:

Yeah. Heck, yeah.

Dale:

Much on it. The confidence.

Danny:

Yeah. God. I could never.

Slim:

Yeah. I've never gone I don't think I've gone skinny dipping. But her hair was wet when she when she got in the water. Did you notice that?

Protolexus:

Yeah. And

Slim:

she gets naked and then she's going in and her hair is wet and slicked back her hair.

Protolexus:

Heck, yeah. 2nd take.

Danny:

2nd take. Oh.

Protolexus:

Right. Steve Miner. Can we can we do that again?

Slim:

I'm sorry. We need that one again. Creep. Sorry. Alleged creep.

Slim:

I'm not saying I'm not saying he did that. I confirmed That was a gag joke. The truck, the Chevy k ten.

Dale:

She was the the

Danny:

fake towing. I couldn't I couldn't give it to a friend.

Dale:

I would Oh my gosh.

Danny:

I I

Slim:

would do anything for that truck. Oh. Absolutely anything. Yeah.

Danny:

That that's sick

Dale:

friend like, that's not friendship.

Danny:

That's up there with Marty McFly's truck. Like, that's up there.

Slim:

Yes. Oh

Dale:

my god. I think I think Everything's

Danny:

so odd

Slim:

that I feel like I'll go on, like, online to see, like, you know, these dream trucks can't be that expensive now. Right? Like, I get one of these trucks?

Dale:

Yeah. It'd be, like, $25100. Right?

Slim:

Yeah. Exactly. But then I'm, like, you get yourself a 2 seater car

Danny:

truck. Yeah.

Slim:

You're really limiting yourself. You're you're gonna be you're gonna be mad at yourself. Yeah. Yes. Like, somehow, I need a 3rd vehicle and this would

Danny:

be 5. I don't know what the problem is.

Slim:

Oh, no.

Danny:

I have to drive around by myself. Right.

Slim:

You were telling us don't know when this was. You're telling us you had, like, a 2 door car.

Protolexus:

Yeah.

Slim:

And did you have 2 kids

Slim:

by that point?

Danny:

I have 3.

Slim:

I don't know. I had 2 seater. I gotta talk to Casey to see what was going on.

Danny:

I had a 2 seater. It's I clearly don't have it now. So Yeah. We had a talk. I had a talk.

Slim:

I had a After the 3rd time.

Danny:

Come out on top of that one.

Slim:

I don't understand how it it was that delayed.

Dale:

Casey's hair and, like, Jason, like, Jason levels of, like, exhaustion. She's like, we need to talk about this damn car. The number of CJDs.

Slim:

Employees from part 2 having the conversation about the 2 seats.

Danny:

Did he get the table across from each other?

Slim:

I'm at 3 stars. I'm going up for Friday 13th part 2. It's fun. Yes.

Danny:

Yeah. It's

Slim:

fun. Three stars is fun. Danny, what about you?

Danny:

I'm at 3 as well. I have a good time. My last note that wasn't read, I think I laughed the hardest at Jason taking the kettle off the stove. Oh, yeah. So bonkers to me that he does it.

Danny:

It's so natural too. And I don't know why it makes me laugh, but it did.

Slim:

He's never seen a kettle in his life.

Dale:

It was just stove. He's he's he's drink water. But I should move this.

Protolexus:

I don't want this whole building to to explode.

Danny:

Yeah.

Protolexus:

Kill everyone. Just I just wanted her dead.

Danny:

Oh, that's great. 3 stars. I have a great set. This was fun. This was fun to watch.

Danny:

Okay.

Protolexus:

My only other thing was, the ending of him flying through the window in slow motion, and then it kind of cutting to it just being resolved. Like, we don't know what happened to the boyfriend. It was so weird and bizarre and just kinda like the first one, how the first one had him jumping out of the water, and it doesn't fully make sense. But I guess it's the Friday 13th way.

Dale:

Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. It's because it's, like, left nebulous. Right?

Dale:

Because it's such a weird, like, dreamy sequence.

Protolexus:

How about 3 stars too?

Dale:

Oh, yeah. K. Four stars

Slim:

Yeah.

Dale:

For old Dan underscore a

Danny:

Thank you.

Slim:

Rebound for

Dale:

this one. This is one of my go to's. I love it dearly. It's just the an easy watch for me. Yeah.

Dale:

I put it on most times, if I put it on, I'm not even watching it. I just know it's on. Mhmm.

Danny:

That's all you need.

Slim:

Yeah. Halloween. Everyone out trick or treating. Be safe out there. Lease To answer any questions, yes.

Slim:

This is the 2nd time we've recorded this episode. If you are wondering, we I was using a new piece of equipment. The day 1, we tried it. I said, everyone just relax. Don't think about it until the last day.

Slim:

Maybe we maybe we feel the desire to do it again. Right. And the desire was obviously there Yeah. Spending 30 minutes on Disney. We couldn't just write the episode.

Slim:

Put my producer hat

Protolexus:

on.

Slim:

Alright. So everyone, have fun. We'll see you on the next episode.

Slim:

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Slim:

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