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What does it take to build friendships that truly last?
In this episode of the Project Sisterhood Podcast, Chrissy continues the conversation with Danica and Nicole about the kind of sisterhood that stands the test of time. They share honest stories about supporting one another through grief, infertility, divorce, and personal struggles while staying rooted in faith and prayer.
This conversation reveals the power of loyalty, accountability, and honesty in friendships and how God uses deep relationships between women to strengthen and sustain us through every season of life.
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In this episode of the Project Sisterhood Podcast, Chrissy continues the conversation with Danica and Nicole about the kind of sisterhood that stands the test of time. They share honest stories about supporting one another through grief, infertility, divorce, and personal struggles while staying rooted in faith and prayer.
This conversation reveals the power of loyalty, accountability, and honesty in friendships and how God uses deep relationships between women to strengthen and sustain us through every season of life.
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- (00:00) - Why healthy friendships matter
- (01:10) - Serving together and supporting leadership
- (03:00) - Why pride destroys relationships
- (05:00) - What healthy sisterhood should look like
- (06:40) - No woman should walk alone
- (08:20) - Friendship with different opinions
- (10:00) - Talking through conflict safely
- (12:00) - Calling out blind spots in love
- (14:30) - Avoiding gossip in friendships
- (16:00) - Why hard conversations deepen relationships
- (18:10) - Protecting meaningful friendships
- (20:00) - Walking through pain together
- (22:30) - Accountability in marriage and life
- (24:00) - The beauty of lifelong sisterhood
Creators and Guests
Host
Chrissy Cole
Chrissy’s parents moved to the U.S. from the Philippines in the late 70′s. She saw her parents both come to know the Lord at a young age. She and her family poured their lives into the local church and were changed by God. Chrissy attended Evangel University in Springfield, MO and earned a B.A. in Communications with an emphasis in Public Relations.
What is Project Sisterhood?
Project Sisterhood is a podcast for women who want to grow in faith, find healthy community, and become who God created them to be.
Hosted by Chrissy Cole and the Project Church Sisterhood team, each episode brings honest conversations and biblical encouragement centered on identity, belonging, spiritual maturity, healing, relationships, and purpose.
With a mix of humor, vulnerability, and real-life wisdom, Project Sisterhood creates space for women in every age and stage to feel seen, strengthened, and connected—because you were never meant to do life alone.
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Chrissy Cole
And welcome back to another episode of the Project Sisterhood podcast. We are doing part two with my girls, Danica and Nicole. Let's dive in.
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Chrissy Cole
This is a Project sisterhood podcast for all things women, brother, youth, a purpose for ministry, motherhood for the marketplace. We have crucial and genuine conversations that transcend your season to impact your true identity as a woman. So light hearted. Possible. Honesty. Matters of the heart and soul to be encouraged. We hope you and all women of every age, at every stage, find life and freedom in Jesus and.
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Chrissy Cole
So one thing I want to talk about is how you guys have, served with me. And under me. Yeah. I've never talked to you guys about that. So this is going to be fun.
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Donica Wilson
Yeah.
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Chrissy Cole
Okay, so what is the dynamic of serving with people? Who are your leaders? Because there's women under you. You know, women beside you and women over you. What is the dynamic of friendship when you are serving under a pastor?
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Donica Wilson
My experience is easy. Yeah, it's easy to serve underneath you because I'm submitted to God and submitted to your leadership. Right. It is very clear that you are my shepherd, and I respect that.
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Nikol Cruz
Yeah.
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Donica Wilson
So because of that, and I understand the authority that comes with it, and I want a part of that authority. I've got to be obedient and submit. So there's a level of some but it's easy. It's not like I gotta twist my arm or. It's very easy to submit to someone that you trust you love and who knows when their side is on God.
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Nikol Cruz
I was going to say but like why is it easy? It's easy because we know we stay in our lane. Yeah. And we trust.
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Donica Wilson
Yes.
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Nikol Cruz
And there's not any room for pride. There's not.
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Donica Wilson
Room. You're right.
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Nikol Cruz
We're not competing for it.
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Donica Wilson
No, never.
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Nikol Cruz
So I think, you know, like, for example, something that we've all worked on together would be sisterhood and fashion. Him. And I think that it works so well because each of us knows our role. And ultimately we know like we're there. What is our what is our goal. Yeah. To bless the women of this church through an event and to support you.
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Nikol Cruz
Yeah. So that makes it very easy for us to be like, we're supporting you. We trust.
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Chrissy Cole
You. Right. Yeah. And I think I love that staying in our lanes, knowing where we are to serve in the body. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because it's less about hierarchy and more about what role do we play? But hierarchy is, destroyed when pride.
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Donica Wilson
Is 100%.
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Chrissy Cole
Right? Yeah. And I think that's what makes it easy to work with you all. And honestly, as a leader, you submit and love to the people that you're even shepherding. And you know what I mean? So I'm like, it's easy to be like, well, she's going to be the expert on the finances and she's going to be the expert on, on all the logistics.
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Chrissy Cole
And as a leader, like being able to even submit to those who I'm serving alongside. So I think it's less of a hierarchy situation and more of a know your roles.
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Donica Wilson
Yes.
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Chrissy Cole
And eliminate pride. Yeah.
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Donica Wilson
Oh my gosh.
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Chrissy Cole
Because I've seen relationships get destroyed when somebody becomes a leader in a group or, or somebody gets elevated and the other person doesn't. And so I'm just like, yeah, somehow that has never been a conversation where it just kind of jumped up in my mind right now. And so I, I hope this is a help too, that I'm not the only person who's a pastor on staff, but I'm like, man, I hope people are supporting Pastor Gabby the way that, yeah, I have felt so supported by you too.
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Chrissy Cole
I hope that people in sisterhood, group leaders, groups are supporting that leader in a way that they are feeling love, seen, not judged. And because, I mean, like, you guys see all my mistakes, you guys see a lot of my heart pastor stuff. And I'm like, there's a lot of things that you can criticize me that I've never actually worried about that because their love covers a multitude of sins.
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Donica Wilson
Yeah.
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Chrissy Cole
And, yeah. So that's the dynamic that I think could be interesting in a church to really appreciate your faithfulness to God. I think that's the key. How relationships work when we are trusting of God.
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Donica Wilson
Has.
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Chrissy Cole
Blessed you with the relationships to begin with. Yeah. And you're intimate with him. And when you're intimate with him, that gives you the ability to be intimate with the right discretion and discernment with other people 100%. And so I'm really grateful for that with you guys and you guys are faithful. Faithful to your husbands. Faithful in your tithes.
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Chrissy Cole
Can you talk about that? Yeah. Faithful in your leadership with other people? In our church. So that. Yeah, I that came out of nowhere, guys. So it's good to see. What I was.
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Donica Wilson
Humbling to hear, and I think you have to say your point. Yeah, but then you have to humble yourself before the Lord daily.
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Chrissy Cole
Yeah.
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Donica Wilson
To be able to have that mindset.
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Chrissy Cole
If there's anything that you hope to see in sisterhood at Project Church. What, what is inside of you that you would love to see. Grow in health or see that we would continue to do or speak to the women in the hearts that you have for women in general. And what do you think that our sisterhood.
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Nikol Cruz
I feel like the first thing that I think of is like, my hope would be.
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Chrissy Cole
That.
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Nikol Cruz
There's no one in our sisterhood, in our church that feels like they're walking through life alone. And knowing the other thing is, is knowing that it's going to look different.
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Donica Wilson
Yes.
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Nikol Cruz
Like, I think that women can be complicated sometimes. And sometimes it may feel like there's a competition. I think if you think about our sisterhood, like my hope would be that there isn't like, no sister left behind. Like there isn't anyone that feels like they're doing this thing alone. And if you are out there and you feel like you're doing this thing alone, then have the courage to find a sister.
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Donica Wilson
Yeah.
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Nikol Cruz
And if you're too nervous about it, then come find one of us. Because we just aren't meant to walk through life, without this sisterhood and it. I don't know, it can sound cheesy, but, like, there's something so special. And it's different. It's different than the relationship we have with our husbands. Or, you know, it's different than what the relationship we have with Jesus.
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Nikol Cruz
And, yeah, I think there's something so beautiful about being able to to do this with other women. So yeah, I just hope that there isn't anyone that feels like they are by themselves. And if they are, that they'd have the courage to reach.
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Donica Wilson
Out is you gotta take.
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Nikol Cruz
Action. Yeah. And it's not easy.
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Donica Wilson
It's not. Especially when you get older. You think like finding friends in your when you're younger. I feel like that's. That was easy. Yeah. As you get older, because life happens. Yeah. Whether you're married or you're single, life is happening and everybody's busy in their own right. Yeah. My busy isn't any less than yours, right? So having the courage and praying, I mean, like, I remember and it's so funny because all three of us moved here.
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Donica Wilson
When you think about it, all three of us moved here. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, granted, you lived here, but you moved away.
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Nikol Cruz
Yeah.
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Donica Wilson
It's a long time. So we all had to move here, and we all had to walk through, navigating. Finding. Yeah. Our sister. Yeah. None of us. We were not born here. We didn't get to, like, high school together. Yeah. And it's just evident of pairs. Yeah. Like I telling God this is what I need. But anyways, what do I see?
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Donica Wilson
What do I, want for our sisterhood? I would definitely say I would want us to be an example of what it looks like to have healthy friendships. Not only in a church but even in, throughout the world. Yeah. Because I do have close friends that don't go to church.
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Nikol Cruz
Yeah. Yeah.
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Donica Wilson
That I still talk to them about in my life and that I still am like, you know, I'm praying for you. I tell them that. So it's very important. But I would say just to be the example of what it looks like to not be jealous of one another, to truly be someone's shield.
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Chrissy Cole
Yeah.
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Donica Wilson
Like, I love that too. And that looks whether that's in prayer. If you have friends that believe in that or whether that's just showing up when they're having a bad day and just sitting with them. That is someone's shield. You're protecting them. You're letting them know that they're not alone. Yeah. So truly embodying that would be what I would love for us to emulate.
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Donica Wilson
And when people look at Project Church, they're like, you can go there and you find love and you're protected. Yeah. And you're covered.
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Chrissy Cole
Okay, well, what about if we have some differences? Because represented in this trio. Our different political views are different. I that's just probably one of the few.
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Nikol Cruz
One of the differences.
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Chrissy Cole
That we've talked about. Yes. We have spent yes, some dinners talking about it. And our husbands are like, it is midnight.
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Nikol Cruz
Where are you? Yeah.
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Donica Wilson
Yeah. Remember that guy at the restaurant?
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Nikol Cruz
I was literally just thinking that he was like, yeah, we spent that for. It was a small restaurant, and we're not necessarily the three quietest females around. And we were just talking about everything. Everything politics, religion, all of the things. It was a sweet couple next to us, and I think I said you did. I think it was like an anniversary or something.
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Nikol Cruz
And I think I was like, happy anniversary. I'm so sorry if you overheard our conversation. And he was like, I don't agree with anything you guys said, but it was lovely to meet you or something like that. It was so nice about it. So nice.
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Donica Wilson
About it. Yeah. But anyways.
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Nikol Cruz
Yeah. But, yeah, we all see things differently. Yeah. I mean, and have different views. But ultimately, like, we keep the main thing. The main thing. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like Jesus and our love for each other and the fact that we can have different views, talk about things and know that it's not going to affect our relationship.
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Nikol Cruz
But there's also wisdom in that, like, don't know, try to, you know, defend your political views to someone on Facebook or.
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Donica Wilson
Right.
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Chrissy Cole
Yeah.
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Donica Wilson
Yeah. Someone you don't even know. Yes.
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Nikol Cruz
Like I think it works here because it's safe.
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Chrissy Cole
Yeah it is. And again, if you are having a lot of division and disruption in your friendships because of these topics, like one of two things needs to happen. You need to like slow your roll on the politics talk or you need to find say for people.
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Donica Wilson
Yeah, yeah.
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Chrissy Cole
Because or maybe you have.
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Donica Wilson
To have your own heart. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because honestly, like, while we talk about these policies and our beliefs, which we all believe that, you know, Jesus. Yeah. Let's all be very clear. Yeah. We all believe in Jesus Christ. Yeah. Again. So let's throw that out there. But while we all believe different things, we also know that it does not change like tomorrow.
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Donica Wilson
Yeah. Like this will not change. I just heard it recently and I won't call out the show. It's like I should be able to hold my political views, my religion, whatever I believe in. In your hand. Yeah, at the same time. And have the convert and never let go of either. Right. Yeah. Like we could still walk away.
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Donica Wilson
Yeah.
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Nikol Cruz
Being real.
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Donica Wilson
Still friends. Loving one another. Yeah, but understanding that we see things differently because we were born.
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Nikol Cruz
And that's okay. And it's fine. Yeah.
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Donica Wilson
And it makes us unique. I don't want to be around people who constantly see things the same way that I did, because I want to be challenged. Yeah. I want to be questioned. I want you to call me higher. Yeah. So if I'm just around saying people, it's not great, right?
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Chrissy Cole
Yeah. Well, just the last, lunch I think that we had. That was another marathon lunch. Yeah. We called each other's blind spots.
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Nikol Cruz
Oh. We did. Yeah. I actually, you guys did it live, and and I'm used to that. I had to text it because I was like, think about it that quickly. But yes, we did. And and I feel like the fact that we can do that and be so honest with each other, yeah, is a gift and that's what is.
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Nikol Cruz
That's what makes us better.
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Donica Wilson
It does.
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Chrissy Cole
Are you calling your friends higher by not just glazing them, as our kids would say? Or are you telling them truth in love? Yeah. I mean, your guys's things that I talked about is actually things that I've heard you say yourself. You know what I mean? Yeah. And there are blind spots. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, maybe they don't aren't acknowledging how often they say that about themselves or whatever.
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Chrissy Cole
You know what I mean? So it's blind spots. But I feel like some people who want to just share truth, and it's coming out of a place of a fence. It can be really damaging. And I'm sorry. Yeah. But when you know that you have safe women, safe people that you can share blind spots with and be like, for real?
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Chrissy Cole
Give me my blind spots. I want to hear from you. I don't want to be deceived and walked through this life. When I have all these women who can show and put a mirror up to my face.
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Nikol Cruz
In.
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Chrissy Cole
Love, because sometimes the most unkind person to me is Chrissy.
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Donica Wilson
That's true.
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Chrissy Cole
And to know that I have friends who are going to give me my blind spots and you know, season their words with love and kindness and compassion and grace. But I don't think I have for myself is a gift.
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Donica Wilson
It is a gift.
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Chrissy Cole
Yeah.
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Donica Wilson
Because I laugh. I mean, after you, after voice memos. I won't say, like, left. Just feeling right. I left, like, immediately thinking, how can I work on this. Right. And that's what you should. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's not like I dare they it was immediate. Like what action steps can I put. Yeah. To better myself.
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Chrissy Cole
Dang it. I was the only one who didn't give action steps. So you guys all remember that? Okay, good.
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Nikol Cruz
I did it, but I think, like, it's also key that it wasn't a you just saying. Hey, guys, I'm going to share your healing spot. You know, I mean you're like what are my blind spots? And so it's like when you're out there in the real world and you're doing life with people, like it's about being vulnerable. Yeah.
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Nikol Cruz
And and we should all have someone or a few people in our lives that we can say, hey, what is something that like, what is the blind spot? And we're not like? The point is, is not to be out there, just like telling everybody their blind spot, right? You know what I mean? It's allowing people to speak into your life.
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Chrissy Cole
Yes. Yeah. And I love that our conversations have a lot to do with what's happening in our own world, not just what's happening in other people's worlds. Because I do think that there is friendship where there is safety and vulnerability when it comes to talking about other people. But I want our safest and most vulnerable conversations to be about what is happening in us internally.
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Chrissy Cole
And I think that you guys have both really protected that this would not be a space of gossip, right? Oh, 100%. And I think that, that there's a danger in sisterhood.
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Donica Wilson
Yes.
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Chrissy Cole
When clicks become gossip.
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Nikol Cruz
Yes. Yeah. Yes.
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Chrissy Cole
And, you know, this is just, I think, to sharpen us. And you guys sharpen me like I don't want to just share the latest news with you ladies, right? I mean, there's some things I'm like, oh my gosh, you know what happened at school with my kids? Yeah. I hope that we're talking more about our lives and what's actually happening in our lives than the latest gossip.
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Donica Wilson
Yes. 100%. Yeah. It would. It wouldn't sustain.
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Chrissy Cole
No.
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Donica Wilson
When you're when your foundation is that or if your foundation is that or if that's all you're talking about, those friend groups don't stay.
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Chrissy Cole
Yeah.
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Donica Wilson
Because you honestly don't have anything solid.
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Chrissy Cole
There won't be a chat. And I just see the redwood trees and the roots that go deep. Like, I want deep.
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Donica Wilson
Roots with.
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Chrissy Cole
The women that are in my life. And if I'm talking about deep things of my heart.
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Donica Wilson
Yeah. Yeah.
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Chrissy Cole
Rather than the stories of, you know, someone down the street, somebody in our church. That's that's so shallow.
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Donica Wilson
So, so so let's.
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Chrissy Cole
Really get to a place where we're having productive, growth conversation. Yeah. And honest, vulnerable ones. Yeah.
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Nikol Cruz
And I think it's okay to be, like, a little bit uncomfortable. Like it should. Should be. You should feel a little bit uncomfortable sometimes when you're having, like, hard conversations.
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Chrissy Cole
You want to talk about. The last time we had an honest conversation when we were baby.
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Donica Wilson
Really.
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Chrissy Cole
Privately.
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Donica Wilson
But you guys cried so badly. We did. You said to me, and you're like, I was crying. Yeah. With the.
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Nikol Cruz
Dad. Yeah. Oh, wait. Which one?
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Chrissy Cole
The. It was while you were in the car. Yeah.
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Donica Wilson
You were like, I'm bawling. And I was like, of course you are.
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Nikol Cruz
Yeah. I don't remember exactly the moment, but it got me got.
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Donica Wilson
Yeah.
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Nikol Cruz
It got me. Yeah. Yeah.
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Donica Wilson
And I was like, I'm crying. I'm like, oh, no.
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Nikol Cruz
I thought you had seen it too. Or like something.
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Chrissy Cole
Yeah. Crying commercial. Was it a commercial? I can't remember.
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Donica Wilson
It was a story. And it was. It was a.
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Nikol Cruz
It happened so often.
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Donica Wilson
It does happen often.
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Chrissy Cole
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, you should.
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Nikol Cruz
You should feel a little bit uncomfortable sometimes. Because if you're not feeling that and then, like, are you really growing?
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Donica Wilson
You know you're not.
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Nikol Cruz
Because what is it that you say the.
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Chrissy Cole
Conflict is the price we pay for a deepening level of intimacy? Yeah.
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Nikol Cruz
And it's so true.
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Chrissy Cole
Yeah.
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Nikol Cruz
In our friendships, in our marriage and, you know.
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Donica Wilson
Relationships with your family.
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Nikol Cruz
Relationships with your family. Yeah.
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Donica Wilson
Yeah. Yeah. I think that that's a side note. And I was just thinking about this. That was why it was so important for me to find ladies. And it like this did not happen in a blink of an eye. Right. We don't even know how it happened, but we just became close over a matter of a decade. We were always like friends.
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Donica Wilson
And then it just continued to grow and grow. But it was a desire in my heart that I know because I moved here without, like, I'm nowhere near my family, right? All my family is completely on the opposite end, that I needed to be around people who were going to be like family to our children, who our family to our children.
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Donica Wilson
Because it's important. Yeah. That they just don't see a mom and dad, you know, situation. But they also have outside aunts and uncles that are going to love and protect them and cover them as if they're their own blood. Yeah. Like, yeah, I will go to bat for you. So it was so important for me, to your point, to find that.
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Donica Wilson
And it's why it's so important for me to protect this. Like this you know. Yeah. What body as we say are you going to find secrets are buried.
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Nikol Cruz
Not around here.
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Donica Wilson
But like that's how I feel about you too. You know. And girls that I will go to battle with you because this is protected. I fought too hard like I fought, but you know.
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Chrissy Cole
Yeah. Yeah.
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Donica Wilson
I work too hard for this to just leave and go away. Yeah. Like we're going to sit and have a conversation. If one of you are mad at me, which never has happened. It never happened.
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Nikol Cruz
It never happened. It's okay. I feel like if you're if you're out there and you're like, there is that awkwardness or you are dealing with, you.
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Donica Wilson
Know, contention.
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Nikol Cruz
Yeah. Okay. To be like, are we good? Yeah, yeah. Let's talk about it because it's not like you're not I mean, you're not going deep. You're not being honest. And I think it's, there's not a there's not a way to truly move forward without the right.
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Chrissy Cole
Yeah. I think what we're fighting for is our the next generation. Yeah. So true. That. Will sisterhood be healthy when I leave this earth? Right. You know, and I will, the women that I've, you know, come in contact with. Have they felt loved and seen and known, you know? Yeah. And so I feel loved and seen and known really a lot by you guys.
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Chrissy Cole
And there's some moments where I'm just like, I will the following day have a vulnerability hangover. Yeah, literally because I was crying so much. I mean, there's a couple of occasions. Yeah. And I'm so grateful. But I had some people to talk to. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that, my daughter, our daughters, soon to be daughters, all the things will have they will experience that because you have fought.
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Donica Wilson
Yeah.
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Chrissy Cole
We have fought.
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Nikol Cruz
And won against.
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Donica Wilson
Them to say. Oh, yeah, what a gift for.
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Nikol Cruz
Them to see.
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Donica Wilson
Like we love our husbands, but they're like nothing against them. Yeah. No. Yeah I they're I find this. Yes. With him.
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Chrissy Cole
Yeah.
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Donica Wilson
You know.
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Chrissy Cole
Should be. And these husbands are very thankful. Although they don't know where we're at at midnight on the dinners that we do go out. Yeah. But they I mean, I think the way that you guys call is higher.
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Nikol Cruz
Yeah.
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Chrissy Cole
Yeah. So many conversations when it has to do with our husbands. Yeah. Hey, this is what I said. Where did I go wrong? Yeah. That happens a lot.
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Donica Wilson
And we're always telling each other to apologize to our has gone. See, that's our thing. Yeah. Nice. Or ever like.
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Nikol Cruz
You're right. Right. I'm not.
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Donica Wilson
Doing anything. I'm. Let's be.
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Nikol Cruz
Honest.
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Chrissy Cole
Time is always making sure. I think we're all making sure that we're all staying sexually active. Yes. That's what. That's how really gets. Yeah. Do you have people that you're actually talking about? Your. That intimacy? I mean, not the details.
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Nikol Cruz
We right know about the delta on the details. Yes it is. It's it's it's real life.
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Chrissy Cole
Yeah.
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Nikol Cruz
And we're holding each other accountable. Yeah. On every level.
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Donica Wilson
On every level.
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Chrissy Cole
Yeah. Well, I mean, I feel like we could talk forever, like we normally do when we're all together. But I'm grateful for you for being leaders in this church, leading leaders, whether it's the board or sisterhood or just the way you lead your families. I mean, each of you. What I admire, really, about both of you is how you run your household.
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Donica Wilson
She does it so well.
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Chrissy Cole
Like, why do you say she. But yes, for sure. Both.
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Donica Wilson
Yeah, but I've got, like. It's just the two of us. The girl is out here. I she waste not a one second of a day, right?
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Chrissy Cole
No. Amazing. And she can pick up things with her feet.
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Nikol Cruz
It's incredible. Sorry.
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Donica Wilson
That's just three seconds.
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Chrissy Cole
That is what we're in. But I just admire each of you and I admire, the way you love others, and I. I oh, what's the word I want to say? I cherish the way you have loved me. How I've seen. I've been seeing known and loved. And I thank you that you're leading the sisterhood by example.
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Chrissy Cole
I know you can't be everybody else's best friends, but, I'm grateful for the way you're leading so that the women around us can see it, and they're experiencing it, too. So because of your leadership. So thank you for your faithfulness. Being pillars in the church. Your families are pillars in our church in more ways than I think you even realize.
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Chrissy Cole
And so I even like that I get the opportunity to publicly thank you. I kind of feel like we're, like, coming out of hiding, and we're like this, this intimate, beautiful friendship. But I want to share you with the world, because these are two women who are resources to the body of Christ. Like, incredible. You would be in the scriptures if you lived in that time.
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Chrissy Cole
I, I have no doubt. So it's very exciting. Yeah. I love you guys so much. Yeah.
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Nikol Cruz
Thank you.
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Chrissy Cole
Well, thanks for being a part of this conversation. Ladies, I know it is. Talk about vulnerability and sister sisterhood and friendship. And we talk about that a lot. And we're not going to quit. Because I think healthy relationships need to continue to grow if we're gonna stay spiritually healthy, if we're going to continue to grow. And I do expect in this coming year that we're going to be receiving more women into our body.
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Chrissy Cole
Like, we have been continuing to see growth and continuing to see health. But there will come challenges. So we need to be in constant reminders, that we need to continue to grow, nourish, and, nourish these relationships so that they can to continue to flourish. So love you, ladies. I hope to see you at a sisterhood event coming soon.
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Chrissy Cole
And that all I want to say. Yeah.
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Nikol Cruz
So thank you.