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Eric Karkovack (00:00)
Hi everyone, and welcome to the WP Minute. I'm Eric Karkovack. Today's episode features a segment from my interview with WordPress contributors Alex Kirk and Brandon Payton. They stopped by to show off the new my.wordpress.net project, which runs a local install of WordPress in your web browser. Now, you can catch the entire interview over on our WP Minute Plus channel. Visit thewpminute.com for all the details.
Eric Karkovack (00:31)
Yeah, so what sort of use cases do you envision for this? I know that the announcement post talked about a CRM, for example, or even just ⁓ going old school and blogging for yourself, you know, like a private journal. What other sorts of ⁓ use cases do you see for it?
Alex Kirk (00:53)
think that's open for exploration. And that's exactly the chicken and egg thing that I think we're trying to encourage to kind of break through. So I have many more ideas and I've got some ideas baking that I might also share here because they will be coming. But ⁓ I did start off with this personal CRM thing being this idea of like, you know, if you just want to increase your, either your, you know, ⁓
Brandon Payton (01:05)
Okay.
Alex Kirk (01:18)
single person network as in like solo developer and you want to increase your reach and want to kind of keep track of these people that you don't know, maybe don't know well enough to put in your phone address book, but you still want to have around. That's where such a CRM could be useful. Or another use case when you've got like friends that, you know, you like them, but you don't get in touch often enough and they don't do either. Maybe you can kind of get a little automation there, you know.
and check in with them more regularly and get reminded of that. ⁓ And especially with, with beeper, it's really interesting ⁓ to have an integration there because it can actually check for you. Did you, did you talk recently? So that's a, the CRM aspect, but there's other things. ⁓ Yeah. For example, the, the chat to blog is a, ⁓ is an app that is
I have to admit it comes from my own use case, but I think it's really useful. So for private blogging, when you want to share something from a personal event, it can be really tricky to kind of gather the photos together or the videos from that event. Different people send it to you and you can save them to your own computer and then upload them again. And with the beeper integration, you can just collect them from different ⁓ conversations and upload them to your blog and save them there. So ⁓ we've been kind of going into this.
Brandon Payton (02:33)
you
Alex Kirk (02:45)
field of where is it useful to use it just for yourself.
Eric Karkovack (02:51)
This is kind of an all encompassing thing when you can integrate with services like beeper. ⁓ I guess the question I have then is we have this AI integration in it too and we're getting more AI in WordPress. The 7.0 is about to come out ⁓ as we record this. ⁓ What sort of things ⁓ should people be on the lookout for as far as AI with this app?
Alex Kirk (03:20)
So I think we can say it's a pretty good playground for AI because it's a safe environment. It's a sandbox. But it's more of a more fundamental question is like, where do you put AI? So either you've got your WordPress site, like in reference to WordPress, either you've got your WordPress site somewhere and you've got the AI outside talking to it, modifying it and all of that. And this is our...
trying to put it actually into WordPress and basically from inside out have the AI use it. So ⁓ this AI assistant works in a way that ⁓ similar as cloud code, for example, works. The AI is provided with certain tools that allows it to modify your WordPress and interact with your WordPress. And especially with 6.9 and the abilities API that opens up so many interesting ⁓
opportunities. So for example, coming back to the personal CRM example, what I, I was just recently on a trip and I met five people and it was quite interesting to be able to basically open up the AI assistant and just tell it, you know, I've met these list names people, please add a note for each of them and create them if they don't exist in the personal CRM right now. And it would interact with the other plugin because of the abilities API knew how to do it and would create the context and add a note.
And that's pretty powerful, a pretty powerful way of putting it inside WordPress and making it aware of what's available in this small environment.
Eric Karkovack (04:58)
Yeah, I can see that being a way, even as a developer, playing around with that in this kind of environment, before you start adding AI to your plugins or whatever, you can actually kind of see the different use cases for yourself in a very private area and just experiment, as you said, just let it kind of inspire you to do something creative with it.
Alex Kirk (05:23)
Totally. I could also see it as a place where, know, ⁓ AI conversations, where they can draw the context from that you want to give it to them. You know, like as soon as you add your notes, that's the place where your notes are. And you can tell it like, that use of these documents inside my WordPress. It's kind of this environment that you have more control over. Whereas with, you know, the clouds and open AI's and so on, you have kind of...
are in their ecosystem, the conversations you had there, they can use it for their context and for their memory functions. But here you can have more control. can like maybe upload more documents first and then talk to the AI and it's already there. So I think that opens up some opportunities that are currently even hard to grasp.
Eric Karkovack (06:12)
Now, ⁓ Brandon, I'll ask you about this one. What about portability? I know it lives in the browser and it can be reset. ⁓ What's going to happen eventually? Are we going to be able to push this to other devices if I want to use this on my phone and then I want to use the same install on my desktop?
Brandon Payton (06:12)
So, go ahead.
It's funny you ask about that because I was just going to try to just talk about that. We're working on sort of WordPress to WordPress sync right now. So the idea would be that we could.
actually be able to sync entities or content between WordPresses. That's not just for my WordPress, that's just for WordPress. So that impacts WordPress Core, Playground, mywordpress.net. And then it just starts to get really cool because if your content is portable, maybe you want to pull some content from a more public facing website into my WordPress to work on or play with, could. And then you could maybe even explore pushing it back. All of a sudden Playground even becomes
⁓ This ability we've talked about this is like WordPress anywhere, WordPress everywhere, but you really then can start to do that because your content can be more portable. And so that's a space that I think we won't even fully realize the power of until those tools are really in place. I know we want and are interested in doing sort of even like peer to peer syncing with mywordpress.net and that sort of thing. ⁓
So that's something that we're working on and looking forward to as well.