Weaver & Loom

Safety is an illusion. Build strong resilient culture. Not safe culture.

Show Notes

Safety is an illusion. Build strong resilient culture. Not safe culture.

Time Stamps:

Intro 0:00
Safety is an illusion  1:37
Tonga Volcano Explodes 2:06
Hoothi Strikes UAE with Drones and Ballistic Missiles  03:07
Holding on to health and wellness  09:37
Caution vs Precaution  10:42
Trigger Warning - Dr. Jordan Peterson  13:57
If the world is not safe then what must we do?  21:36
What is Meekness?  22:28
A search for purpose is a search from freedom.  29:10
Yeah that makes sense  32:58
Päivi Räsänen - Bible is a hate crime  33:32
Value4Value Podcast  47:43
Weaver and Loom - John Milton  49:06
Czechs scrap mandatory COVID-19 jabs, daily cases hit record  54:14
Get more by giving to your friends  55:48
Anchored the Discipline to Stop Drifting  56:31
Closing  57:21



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What is Weaver & Loom?

In Weaver and Loom, we unravel the wonderment of the spiritual, natural, fate, and the divine through mythic and sacred story, biblical parables, ancient fables, and Christ-haunted narratives--getting lost in the mysteries of the our human creation so that we might grope our way to Christ and become illuminated in midsts of the mundane and sufferings of life.

Cruise missiles are flying over the
Arabian peninsula and blessed are the

meek because they really, at the end of
it, all, those who decide to restrain

themselves and use control, even if
that means very strained themselves from

protecting or overprotecting or causing
environments that are, are overpaying.

For the ones that they love, those are the
people who truly will get what they want.

Those are the ones who will truly outlast
all of the crazy that we are seeing.

And finally, free speech free
speech is the foundation for free.

Of thoughts.

Hey, it's Lucas robot and you're
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where we uncover purpose, pursue
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And I hope that you enjoy too.

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like Mitchell already has.

So thanks for showing up
and being here, but as.

We get into this episode, we're gonna be
covering a couple of different topics,

but really it ties into one thing.

Safety is overrated.

Safety is an illusion.

We, we go about our lives,
thinking that we have this.

Safe world or that we're building a safe
world or we're working towards a safer

world, but safety at the beginning of
the day, you have the middle of the day.

And the end of the day is
merely an illusion case.

In point, you probably saw the footage
swirling around the internet of a

volcano in the middle of the ocean
erupting sending a 49 foot tsunami.

And hitting Tonga.

A few people died.

I believe that the number
right now is three people.

At least three people have been killed.

The death toll could end up being higher,
but right now the, uh, underwater under

C um, fiber optic lines have been cut.

So we don't have a lot of information
coming out, but the footage was

absolutely incredible from space.

You see just the earth exploding.

But this is the dangerous world that
we live in dangerous world, that we

live in, where at any moment a volcano
could erupt and it could be our life.

The other big piece of news that is coming
across the world this week is eight.

Who the strike in the
United Arab Emirates.

Now we're not going to
get too deep into this.

I'm not a super big expert on the
geopolitical happenings in Yemen, but I'll

give you the, the rough, the rough play
of it, which is you have the who Thies

in Yemen who are being supported by Iran.

Funding with technology and they
are fighting the internationally

established government, which is
being backed by Saudi and the UAE.

So really there is a lot of
tension between Saudi and Iran.

Saudi and UAE and Iran specifically,
which really also boils down to,

in a rough sort of way, a conflict
between Sunni's and Shiites.

Iran means shit.

So what's happening is there is
a proxy war taking place between

Iran and Saudi Arabia via Yemen.

United Arab Emirates had been engaging
with troops on the ground for a

number of years back in 2019 in Yemen.

But they have recently pulled most
of their troops out, even though

they're still supporting the war
with finances and with technology

and supporting Saudi in that war.

Most of the Houthi attacks.

Have come against Saudi Arabia.

We've seen over the last number of
years, multiple, whether it's drone

strikes, whether it's, uh, Scud
missiles, whether it's cruise missiles

going into Saudi, we we've seen the,
the anti-missile systems over, off

shooting down missiles as they come in.

It's quite, it's quite
scary thinking Riyadh.

It's a city of a developed
city of 9 million people.

9 million people and we have
missiles flying over them.

This is the, some of the fragility,
some of the fragility or instability

that we're seeing right now in the
region here in the Arabian peninsula.

So what happened.

Over the week on the 17th, we
saw a, an attack by the who Thies

against United Arab Emirates.

The who these have claimed the, who
these have quote unquote described using

cruise missiles and ballistic missiles
in the attack without offering evidence.

Now, as they said themselves, we don't
have evidence that it was actually

a cruise missile or whether it was
a, a drone that they flew across

the empty quarter to Abu Dhabi,
where they struck three oil tankers.

And they also struck the Abu Dhabi
airport, according to reports,

leaving three people dead as.

United Arab Emirates is considered one
of the safest nations in the region.

And really w we lived in the United Arab
Emirates for about two, three years.

And it is a wonderful place to live.

We love the UAE.

We love our relationships.

There are friendships there.

We loved and deeply enjoyed living
there in the United Arab Emirates.

And it truly is when you walk the streets,
when you drive down the road, when you're

meeting people, it feels like a safe.

It looks like a safe place.

Every interaction that we've
had gives you a sense of safety.

Right now, we, we live in the
neighboring nation of Oman.

And it's ranked one of the fifth
safest nation in the world.

Uh, we love, we love it here.

And safety here is one of the
greatest draws for many people to

this region of knowing that these
are stable and safe countries.

But right now with the hoof, these
are doing are working to disrupt that

safety because this is one of the.

Big marketing pushes or points,
selling points on a nation like United

Arab Emirates, which is we are safe.

We are stable.

You can invest in here.

Your businesses can invest in here.

You do not have to worry.

And that is really one of the
fundamental things that the, who these

are working to attack right now is the
reputation of the United Arab Emirate.

Uh, according to Al-Jazeera, uh, they had
one of their senior experts on the Yemen,

uh, conflict Yemen who theat Saudi Arabian
conflict here is Hesham from Al Jazeera.

I was in touch with them Hammad
out of the set up just a while ago.

Kia spokesperson of the Houthi, his,
and his said the operation today is

a message to the Emiraties that we
are going to do whatever it takes to

make it extremely difficult for them
inside the UAE and to push all the

international companies to put out from
the authorities, unless the Emiraties

stop interfering militarily politically
and economically in Saudi Arabia.

So this is, I think he meant to say
in Yemen, Point there's a little

bit more to this clip, but the
point right now, he's making that

the, who these are making a scene.

We are going to disrupt what is
happening in the United Arab Emirates.

This, it sounds like it's
not just a one and done.

This is an ongoing threat that
the who Thies are leveling

against the United Arab Emirates.

And for sure, the United Arab
Emirates is not going to take

this line down as they should.

Uh, if, if anyone had missiles
flying over their nation, they

should definitely defend themselves.

He goes on in this.

Uh, this is a message from the
Houthi is to the, to the UAE.

This is, you know, for them to be able to
fall after all these years, we're talking

about almost seven years to send drones
into the Saudi Arabia or into the UAS,

the message that we're far from defeated.

This is definitely going to further
strained relations between the, of,

and the, and Iran because, you know,
era, the Emirates and Saudi Arabia

have been saying that the healthies
would never have been able to.

Most of those drones, have
they not been given technology

and support from the Iranian?

The point right now that we're trying to
make in this episode is that even in the

safest of places, safety is an illusion.

And we have witnessed this
over the last two years.

I think we are more aware of this
as a society now than ever before.

With COVID and what it has done to
humanity on a vast scale, it has boiled

everything down in people's lives.

Foreseen individuals to ask the
question, what is important in my life?

What do I have to hang onto?

And the answer to that most, the majority
of humanity has found is the only thing

that I have is my health and wellness.

The only thing that I have,
everything else, it falls away.

It fades away.

It doesn't matter if I don't
have my health and wellness,

I don't have anything.

So we've been willing to give up freedoms.

We've been willing to give.

Well to give up control of
our lives and give it over to

bureaucracies your governments.

We've been willing to say
you just tell us what to do.

I'm going to lay down my own objective
reasoning, and we give over our power.

We give over our control, not
necessarily for the sake of caution,

but for the sake of precaution.

Now there's a difference
between caution and precaution.

We should all be cautious.

We should not have.

Go up to the edge of a cliff and lean
over and then try to take a selfie.

I mean, there's, I don't know how many
people die each year in Yosemite or

places like that, where they go past
the boundary, go past the fence where

it says, don't pass your caution.

And they go up to the edge of the
cliff to take a selfie and tragically,

they slip and they fall off the cliff.

But that is caution.

That fence is something that is gives
warning and caution that should be

followed, but we have by and large as
a society, COVID aside, we've by large,

as society have moved far past taking
caution and we've been taking pre.

So for a hyperbole, an example, an
exaggerated example, that would be,

well, we probably shouldn't even
go up to the side of a mountain.

You probably shouldn't
even go up to the cliff.

Don't even go hiking because you
never know what might get you up.

The cliff, the gravity, rain, mosquito,
you know, heaven forbid, you know, you

scratch your leg on a Bramble Bush.

We've moved in as a society by and large.

To a place of precaution and that
plays out really in the way that we

begin to parent and raise our children.

We see this.

Progressive, not just progressive
media, but progressive thoughts where

everything has trigger warnings.

We're so afraid to offend people
were so afraid that people might

be offended by what we say.

I, I recognize that in my life.

I often find myself self-censoring because
I'm afraid of what you might think.

I'm afraid that someone might be
offended at what I say, and I don't

want it to have to deal with the
maybe if, and maybe if Andrew conflict

that might happen when in reality,
you're probably not even listening.

The people who would be
offended probably aren't.

Now this we're about to dive
into a touchy subject, the

subject of parenting and kids.

So trigger warning.

See, see what I did there.

This is exactly.

This is exactly what it means.

The precaution trigger warning.

Actually isn't helping society, but as
society as a whole, we have begun to

insulate our children to insulate humanity
society from dangerous for their own.

And it's a hard balance of deciding
what, where exactly is that line, where

we're insulating or protecting or taking
precaution for our children's good

or do good to society versus being.

Protective over too much
of a helicopter parents.

So again, whenever goodness gracious.

Whenever I post anything like this or
talk anything like this, there are a

number of people who really come out and
get upset at some of the things that I

say or some of the things that, uh, Dr.

Jordan Peterson is about to
say right here on this podcast.

So trigger warning, uh, I'm about
to play something that's current.

Children used to have multiple
siblings and siblings toughen

you up because there's tremendous
competition in families among siblings.

And they had younger parents who
had fewer resources and you know,

now parents are older, first of all.

And second they're more resource rich.

And so they're more likely to
schedule their children to death in

some sense, to provide them with all
the opportunities that they feel.

Useful.

And that's understandable.

And plus, because they have fewer
children, each child is in some sense,

more precious, you know, not like if you
have 10 children, you don't love all of

them, but you know, there's 10 of them.

There's, there's only so much
excess attention that can go around

and, um, pause that right there.

If this is true, we have
four going on five kids now.

Our attention is now split
four, almost five ways.

And that really does affect the amount
of time and energy that you can give.

But we find that the blessing
of having many kids is that

our kids play with one another.

Our kids take care of one another.

Our kids have friendship with one another.

Our kids every day, they are outside.

In the mud, getting beaten and bruised,
falling, getting scraped bleeding.

But the amount of times that one of our
children comes in in a day crying in tears

because they got hurt is extraordinary.

Part of it comes from.

That's just the way that we parent
that we think that kids should

go out and explore and play.

Part of it also comes from the fact
that we have four of them and there's

only two of us and we're working.

So we don't have the ability to keep eyes
on every, every child at every moment

of the day, which that then tends to, or
lends itself to kids, having their own

exploratory process as we are seeing.

In society.

And this, this aspect is not a negative
thing as we're seen in society,

that we are where as the poverty
line moves or better way to say as

people more and more people come out
of poverty and have more options.

The birth rate begins to drop,
and that is not inherently.

When the birth rate is, you know, 10, 20
kids per family, or 12 kids per family.

So it's okay that it naturally drops it.

I don't think there is a,
uh, an issue with that.

And the reason I'm clarifying that
as many times when this subject comes

up, if it's very touchy for people,
it's touching for people for a number

of reasons, one of those reasons is
sometimes people want to have kids and

they, can't not talking about that.

Um, and there's some times.

People decide that, Hey, I'm just okay.

With two kids, I'm not talking about that.

There is the negative side of what's
happening, which is this extra

narrative that has been laid on.

Of saying we are going to
have population explosion.

Having a kid is morally
corrupt and morally wrong.

You should not have any children
to have a child is morally wrong.

This is a topic we've covered
many times on the show.

It really hits home for a lot of people.

This again, it's not necessarily what
Jordan Peterson is talking about,

but with that, it's this well, this
thought of I'm only gonna have one

kid I'm only gonna have two kids that
I can give all my precious time and

energy and poured into these one or
two vessels, which can have an ad

verse effect because of overprotection.

So we're going to finish this clip.

We have another about minute and 30
seconds from this clip by Jordan Peter.

Well, I took a photo from the Bronx.

We used to heritage multiple of
them, but there's 10 of them.

There's, there's only so much excess
attention that can go around and they

do, uh, a lot of socializing each other
rather than being socialized by parents.

But if you only have one child, you know,
you're going to devote all your resources

to providing them with absolutely
everything you can provide them with.

And one of the dangers of that
is that you'll overprotect them

and you'll provide them with.

And we don't understand
those dynamics, right?

We don't understand how much you
should stay hands off your kids and

let them go out there and make their
own mistakes and find their own way.

And that's, that's well, that's tricky
and, and we're ignorant about it.

And so I think one of the
consequences of that is that we

do have a reasonable percentage.

Young people, maybe young adolescents,
the kind that you hear about at

university who have been overprotected
and over-scheduled over-scheduled

and under challenged in some sense.

And so they're not very resilient
and that's, and then of course

what's happening in the universities,
the safe spaces and the trigger

warnings and all of that.

And there's good.

Recent research on this trigger
warnings clearly make things worse.

Then better, we extend that over
protection far longer than is helpful.

You know, it's hard though, because as
I said, when you have resources, you can

use them to make your children's lives.

Let's say easier.

But the question is like, do you really
want to make the life of someone you love?

That's incredible.

How difficult question that is a question.

Do you want to make the life of
someone that you love easier?

Does that actually help them?

Because what we all want, we want
to help the people that we love.

We want to help our children.

You know what, probably most of the
people who are making legislation and

bureau bureaucracy and bureaucratic
laws and red tape, I doubt the, you

wake up in the morning and they say,
how can it make someone's life horrible?

How can I destroy the economy?

Some, some people truly are.

They have a real socialist agenda of
saying, if we can create this sort of

society, then we can destroy capitalism.

For instance.

Or we can destroy, destroy
the moral fabric of a nation.

There are people who are conniving and
maniacal and plotting and such manners.

It's not the average person.

The average person wakes up of
saying, how can we make people's

lives easier and better and safer?

And there is a good side to that,
but that can also lead as Dr.

Jordan Peterson was saying
to an overprotection of arch.

Which then makes them soft,
which makes them lack resilience.

And as we started this episode with
the explosion of a volcano in Tonga

that just sent a massive tidal waves
across the world, uh, three people

died, uh, just incredible footage, or
we see one of the safest nations on

earth, whether it was a drone strikes.

Oh, whether it was an armed
drone, whether it was a ballistic

missile, it doesn't matter.

The fact that the world is changing where
people can now through the means of a

new form of guerrilla warfare strike
nations from thousands of miles away.

It should start a less, it
should tell us and inform us that

the world is not a safe place.

We can not protect our children.

We can not protect our civilization.

We can not stay safe.

The answer then to our
problem is we must be strong.

We must be strong.

We must build a resilient society.

Resilient kids are resilient,
culture, resilient families.

And that is what we aim to do.

This is how we own the future.

This is our goal.

How do we build strong and resilient
individuals, families, and then

organizations or sectors of community
spheres of society, whether it's

education or, or whether it's.

Whether it's finance, whatever
it is, how do we build a

strong and resilient culture?

Well, one of the answers to building a
strong and resilient culture is meekness.

Now, meekness is kind of a strange word,
even if English isn't your first language.

Don't feel bad.

A lot of people whose English is
their first language don't understand

necessarily what meekness is.

People often think meekness is
a, uh, being timid or being quiet

or being reserved, but truly the
image of meekness is power under

control, power under control.

It's the image of a mighty gladiator or.

Having his sword, that he could decimate
his opponent in front of him with in just

a moment, but he keeps his sword Shiva.

He keeps his sword in his sheath.

That is the image of meekness.

It is having power, but choosing
to restrain yourself and choosing

not to use it, that is a path
probably one of many paths.

But that is a path to grow strong
and resilient cultures and to grow

strong and resilient as an individual.

Now notice there's, there is a difference
between being meek and being a victim.

So someone who is being abused.

Someone who's being
trampled on as a victim.

They're not powerful.

They're not choosing to let their opponent
or let their oppressor oppressed them.

They were just stuck in this situation.

They can't get out.

They are trampled and abused day
in, day out, whether it's verbally

or physically, that is just abuse.

There's no honor.

There's no dignity in that.

When there is a strong individual
who is choosing to not retaliate

when they are abused, even though
they know, you know, what, if I just

pull out my sword, I could destroy.

I could just destroy you right now.

You are so weak.

So pathetic, your arguments are so lame.

You are so hypocrite.

I am.

I could destroy, I could decimate you.

I could decimate you with my keyboard.

I could decimate you in
front of your friends.

I could have my vengeance, but
instead strong people who utilize weak

meekness withhold, and the hold back,
that is the way to success because,

and this is one of the reasons.

Because no one wants to be under the
thumb and under the power of someone

who totally decimates their enemies.

Because somewhere in the back of our mind,
we, we, we do say, well, I want to be

on her team because she's really strong.

And she's the strongest one
there is, or I want to be on his

team because he's the greatest.

And he just decimates everyone
with his awesome company.

But somewhere we realized what if I end
up on the other side of that equation?

What happens one day when I'm the
one who is in that person's targets?

We say, eh, I don't really want that.

I don't want to be micromanaged.

I don't want to be destroyed.

I don't want to be controlled
by this other individual.

And therefore the people who end up
winning the people who end up leading the

CE, the corporations, the organizations,
the systems of the world are.

Maybe not in the short run, but
in the long run are people who

choose to exercise meekness.

Now another way that meekness can
play itself out, or maybe, yeah,

it's a way that can play itself out.

It's a little different is even
when we have power over a situation,

whether it's over a situation with our
employees, over a situation with our,

our children over a situation with our
friends, Where we know the right answer.

We have the power to control the outcome.

Meekness is saying, I'm
going to hold myself back.

I'm going to let my kids
make their mistakes.

I'm going to let my employees
learn and make their mistakes.

Even though I know the right
way to do it, they have an idea.

They want to run with it.

I'm going to let them run with it.

I'm going to use meekness.

And when we do restrain my power,
even though I see the path that

it's going to lead them, But when
we do that, we give others freedom.

They are then able to
explore the unknown world.

They're able to explore it for themselves,
learn lessons for themselves, which makes

them stronger, which makes them resilient.

They may, maybe they'll get hurt
and they'll come back to us.

Because they got hurt
and we can comfort them.

We can take care of them, but they
would have learned a lesson, a valuable

lesson that is going to be far more
effective than being told what to do.

This is another picture of meekness.

Now, as I said, in the long
run, not only in the temporary.

Moment Terry world.

But the, the eternal rewards of meekness
are unmeasurable because what our kids say

about us, what our grandkids say about us,
it will be remembered by the temperament

by we left lead and lived our lives.

Do you want, do we want to be known
as people who are controlling or

over-protective and not letting our
employees or anyone do anything?

Cause we know.

Or do we want to be seen and known
as people who are already leasing

people who build platforms to let
other people accomplish their dreams,

not forcing them to build our dreams.

This is a way to walk in truth.

We, we talk about this on
the show, discern discern

truth, uncover our purpose.

Well, purpose is, and I don't talk
about this a whole lot on this.

But it's really what was one of the
main cause and drives to, to switch

some of the language of the show
away from owner store, own your

story and your own, your future, know
your purpose and cover your purpose.

W we kept that in there, but I, I realized
that when people talk about looking for

and searching for purpose or meaning what
they're really looking and searching for.

Is freedom is because when we, when we
find ourselves in the place of walking

out our purpose and walking out our
meaning, when we find ourselves in

that place and you're in that flow and
it's like, you know, you know, you're

doing what you were created to do.

I, I get in those places at
different times of my day or my.

And all of a sudden, I have this
realization, you know, right, right

now, even as one of those realizations
that I'm in, I'm in my sweet spot of

doing exactly what I was created to
do at least in this season of time.

And they feel that purpose and they
feel that meaning, but the baseline

of what I'm feeling is freedom.

It's freedom.

And lot of times we talk about freedom
as it's just like this freedom from the

nine to five, but it's not, we're not
looking for freedom from a nine to five.

We're not looking for freedom from
work it free from the nine to five.

And you get a 24 7 because
you started your own business.

It's more work, but it's freedom is the
very thing that we're searching for.

People.

Talk about retiring at 35 or
retiring at 22, I'm going to pre.

Move to an island somewhere and sit around
and do nothing with the rest of my life.

We think we think that well, that's
freedom, but that's not freedom.

Freedom.

Doesn't come from lack of activity.

Freedom comes from truth.

Truth brings freedom.

Freedom brings a sense of purpose
and meaning, say that again.

Understanding and living out truth
because we can know it here, but

we have to live it out that opens
up a door of freedom in our lives

because we're free from the criticism.

We're free from people who
slander us and hate us.

We're free from the
judgment and the anxiety.

We're free from worrying about where
the next meal is going to come from.

And we're able to then walk out.

In purpose and in meaning

one of the ways, one of the truths
that we can walk out to step into

freedom is utilizing meekness.

And, and we see it played out
in the negative sense where

society has really failed.

To be meek and the way that we raise
our children, the way that we cuddled

society and the way that we are being
over-protective by a large means,

and we're seeing a not free society.

We are seeing a weak and fragile
society rather than a strong society.

And I want to see you build
a strong culture in your

personal life, your family, and.

Th the culture of those
you lead don't go away.

We will be right back with our closing
or not closing, but don't go away.

Yeah.

That makes sense.

In a post-truth society where we
have exchange the truth for lies and

reason for postmodern irrationality,
the absurd finally makes sense.

And we have a couple of
clips for the segment.

And it is sorority.

It truly is quite shocking, but
it really does tie back into

this desire and need for safety.

This is the theme that
we're talking about today.

Safety.

Do you lose a ton of safety?

Well, in a finished
politician, uh, have Priya

I hope I said that.

Right?

Goodness gracious.

I, I always, I don't
know if you're like me.

I struggle with names, especially
if they're pronounced wrong

and then I get nervous.

And so even though I've practiced the
name 20 times, I did this, I would

do this in interviews all the time.

I would practice the name for like 10
minutes before actually doing the episode.

And then nearly every episode, even
if it's like John Smith, I bought it.

It's neither here nor there, but
she is being about to be tried

in Finland for a hate crime.

What was the hate crime?

The hate crime was posting a verse
from the Bible and quote unquote,

believing Christian things.

We have a segment of a few clips
that we're going to pull out some

nuggets from, but really, as you're
listening to this, I want you to think.

About free speech and how the restriction
of freedom of speech, the restriction of

debate, the restriction of being able to
post something online without having a

filter over it, or without having a tag
at the bottom being fact checked all, all

this world, the sensorial world is leading
to something and it's, it is to create,

to make sure that we have a safe society.

We need to be.

But maybe it's making a, a gated
society or a protected society, but it

certainly isn't making a strong society.

I took a photo from the Bible
and posted it in a Twitter and

asked the leadership of my church.

That, how is it possible that what
Bible calls, sin and shame you

are now supporting us upright?

And after that some city center
made a complaint to police and

police started to investigate that.

And then after that, there were
many other criminal complaints

that some citizens made about,
uh, a booklet that was written.

Much earlier 2004 and some radio and
TV programs there I was talking about.

So the context of the
story is here is Maria.

She is a part of a church, the church,
all of a sudden says, Hey, we're

supporting this gay pride parade.

We are in support of the
prideful people who are.

Full support.

She says, well, wait a minute.

I'm confused.

She, in this interview, she relates how a
lot of other politicians and people that

she knew in history, her circle began to
leave the church that she was a part of.

And instead she decided to
speak up and say, wait a minute.

Last thing, last time that I read the holy
book of the Christians, the Bible, it said

that this isn't something that we support.

We, we S we see this.

Sin, uh, that's according to the Christian
faith, the Jewish faith, the Muslim faith,

all three of the Abrahamic monotheistic
faiths view, homosexuality as a sin.

Now, clearly, if this is happening
to her in Finland, uh, know.

Me just reposting this insane,
this and commentating on this.

You can put me in the same boat boat.

It can put you in the same boat.

If you hold these beliefs
really, depending on where

the world ends up going.

But so she speaks out about this.

She posts a picture of a verse
from the Bible, and now she's

being charged for a hate crime.

She was, she used to be over the police.

She was an appointed.

Uh, and elected she's a member
of parliament in Finland and

she also was over the police.

Well, now the police have pulled
her in multiple times to interrogate

her about these posts, about her
writings from way back in 2004.

This is what we, this
is goodness gracious.

We talked about this.

I don't know how much back in
2020, when we started looking.

The CCP, when we started looking at
what they would do in the USSR, the

way that the thought police would
work, they would, they would Drudge up.

It's show me the man and I'll show you.

I'll find you the crime.

And they would Drudge up
things from years back.

This is the way that
cancel culture is working.

You make a post from 10 years ago.

Your enemy is going to find it, Drudge it
up and make sure that you get canceled.

Why?

Because we need to have a
safe society, a society where

there's not freedom of speech.

There's not three to freedom of
thought or freedom of belief.

We need to control society,
which is obviously a very

ironic due to the fact that

due to the fact that.

The same thing.

Those who are advocating for no
freedom of speech are forcing people

to believe what they believe in that
can easily be turned against them.

So here's, here's her story
of her being, uh, arrested and

interrogated multiple, multiple times.

I was interim gated by police
many times, and those hearings,

they lasted all together about 10.

Or worse.

In fact, the situation was
very absurd because, uh, I sat

there with, with the police.

I had the Bible on the table
and then the police asked me

questions about, uh, my beliefs.

What do you think about,
uh, what apostle Paul.

Is here teaching what you think
about this verse, these verses,

where he speaks about homosexual act?

In fact, I, I thought that it was
quite a privilege to have this

kind of discussion with the police,
because I had many times during this.

At a possibility to tell to the police the
message of gospel, what the Bible teaches

about the value of human beings, that all
people are created as the image of God.

And that's why they all are valuable.

So, uh, he or she is being interrogated
by the police on, on what the Bible says.

Say, Hey, the Bible says
this, do you believe it?

The Bible says this, what
do you think about this?

It is being interrogation of her faith.

This is the way that Europe is going.

This is the way that the post-Christian
society in Europe is going and it is

tending towards and leading towards.

Restriction of freedom of speech,
because speech is thought, and if it can

control speech, you can control thought.

Ironically here, she's also pointing
out, Hey, within the Judeo-Christian

worldview, because we believe this
book, this book teaches us that

every person is valuable, that every
individual is made in the image of God.

And this is a.

Eight, a stream of thought.

That seems great on the surface and
it recruit early is great, but it is

viewed as dangerous to the determinists.

It's viewed, viewed as dangerous to.

Those who are holding onto a, a
Marxist or socialist worldview where

we're really, they say, well, there's
no such thing as right or wrong,

good or evil, moral, or immoral.

All there is is power.

And there's no such thing as innocence
or guilt, but wrapped up in this world.

Very similar to an Islamic worldview
or Judaic worldview wrapped up in

this worldview is the belief and
the truth of innocence and guilt.

But when that is present, you
can't just throw someone in jail.

You can't just do away with a whole
swath of people like they did in

China, like they did in the USSR.

Like they have done in
Cambodia and POL pot.

This is the.

Cycle that happens in these thoughts are
dangerous to the socialist worldview.

She continues.

Uh, it was funny that
many people described this

interrogations, that baby calls.

Now again, to the police station to
give Bible studies to the police,

I could never have imagined.

Uh, for example, when I worked as a
minister of interior, uh, who was,

uh, in charge of police, that I would
be, uh, interrogated and asked that

kind of questions in police station.

I had heard about this kind of.

Interrogations and hearings
from the Soviet times.

I'm so old that I remember the
Soviet times and I could never have

imagined that that happens in Finland.

People think that those
Soviet times are long gone.

They're done away with
their other surpass.

That won't happen again.

That wasn't real communism,
that wasn't real socialism,

that wasn't real progressive as,
and we'll do it the right time.

But here we are 2020.

Seeing this happen in a, a free
democratic state of Finland.

Now this is, this is the last clip
I promise from the segment, but

this is so important in the reason
that this is so important is not

because it's a crackdown against
the Bible, which that is important,

but because if they can do this in.

It will slowly grow and
grow across the world.

And the important lesson to learn here is
that freedom of speech is a prerequisite.

For freedom of thought, freedom
of thought, and speech is a

prerequisite for developing
society and communities forward.

If we want to see it in an advancement
of technology, we have to have a

freedom of thought, which means we
have to have a freedom of speech no

matter where you are in the world.

And this goes both.

This goes for, for people who want to
live in a homosexual lifestyle, they

ought to have the freedom to think that.

Do you talk about that to save
that they ought to have the freedom

to debate and argue their points.

They ought to have that.

They ought to have that freedom, but
that freedom is being taken away.

Here's the last clip.

This is where she's, where she
describes with the national prosecutor

said on, in an interview on national
TV and Finland about this case and

the ramifications of this case.

If it, if she is indeed found
guilty of a hate crime, For

posting a picture of the Bible.

The prosecutor general has been in
public many times about this case.

And one year ago in interview in housing
in Sonoma, uh, CA stated that if is

convicted, it is not necessary to take
the Bibles away from the libraries

and it is still okay to cite them.

But what is not okay.

East or agree with the Bible and
at the same time, see also compared

to Bible to mind com the Bible is
now mine comp ladies and gentlemen.

It is okay to quote it is okay to
criticize it, but you can't believe it.

This is, this is the.

Point it is not about freedom of speech.

It is about freedom of thoughts, but in
order for us to be able to have freedom of

thought, there must be freedom of speech.

And freedom of thought is the prerequisite
to build a thriving community in society.

Because if you can't argue with someone
that says, Hey, I think you're wrong.

If you can't argue with this lady and say,
Hey lady, I think you're wrong about that.

Imagine if the tables were turned
and in many places across the globe,

the tables are turned, but imagine if
the tables were turned and they were

saying, Hey lady, I think you're wrong.

Nope.

You can't say you can't
say that she's wrong.

You can't disagree.

You can't have, you can have
literature that says you

disagree, but you can't believe.

People should have the
ability to disagree, because

that is how we find truth.

That is how we decipher what is one of
the there's many ways, but there's one of

the ways is by seeing, does it hold up?

Does it stand the pressures
and the tests and the attacks

and the assaults against it?

Because if it doesn't,
then it's not truth.

If it does, then it is truth,
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Welcome back to Weaver Luma, part
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wisdom and we weave it in with
our everyday lives so that we can.

Own we've our destiny and own our future
today's quote is by the one and only

John Milton from his famous speech and,
uh, essay, the area of Kinetica, which

was written hundreds back in the 16
hundreds and a timeless piece of work

where he argues against censorship.

Now, John Milton was.

He was pro freedom of speech, but
he did think that there should

be some restrictions in speech.

You shouldn't really in America,
the place where we think freedom of

speech is it, there are still some
restrictions in speech, thus being.

I can't just make up lies about
you and publish them all over

the internet or in the newspaper
that are just blatant untruths.

I can't do that.

So there are restrictions to what
you can, and can't say even that

John Milton is arguing, but he does
make the argument in this essay.

We've referred to it.

A number of times here on the
show, he makes the argument.

If you are going to create a, a culture
of censorship, then there comes a point

where you can't even have windows on
your house because who is going to

censor what you're going to look out
and see on the street who is going to

control your every eyes glance or every.

Who's who's going to sensor
the sensors right now.

CNN hired fact checkers.

Well, who's going to fact
check the fact checkers.

Who's going to fact check
the fact checkers, who fact

checking the fact checkers.

It's it's endless.

It really, it comes down to who has the
power to decide what is right or wrong.

So what is true and not true.

And what gets censored and what doesn't
get censored there recently on the

inter webbings of the big tech social
media, people are getting kicked off

of social platforms like YouTube,
like Instagram for echoing, for echo.

W H O talking points or echoing or stating
what has been stated on the CDC website

and saying, look, even the CDC is saying
this even the, who is saying this, but

it's going against, it's building a case,
an argument against a certain narrative

that wants to be pushed to create a
society that is over protected and

beholden to the governmental institutions.

And so they don't like
that kind of shut that.

Rather than there being open debate
and open dialogue for individuals

do be able to decide what they
want to do with their life.

So here is the, the quote from John
Milton through all the wins, though,

all the winds of doctrine were
let loose to play upon the earth.

So truth being in the field.

Just beginning phrase of it says, so
all, all the winds of doctrine are on the

earth, which also means truth is in the
Plainfield truth is on the field as well.

It goes on to say we do injurious
mostly by licensing and prohibiting

to miss doubt, her strength.

So imagine you're at a football
match, American or world football.

And the best player is on the
field, but the referee takes it

upon themselves to say, ah, we
got to make sure that truth wins.

We got to make sure that
the best player wins.

And in the referee's mind, they have an
image of who and what the best player is.

Maybe they know maybe they.

But they begin to license in prohibit
based on the person or the player

where the truth that they want to win.

And thus miss doubting the strength
of truth myths, doubting her strength.

Milton goes on to finish this
quote and it says, let her and

false hood grapple let truth and
falsehood grapple with one another.

Whoever knew truth.

Put to the worst and in a free and open
encounter, whoever knew truth put to

the worst in a free and open encounter.

Meaning if you let truth and
falsehood fight and grapple with

one, another truth will always win
because whoever knew truth to lose.

And if it does lose, then is it really.

An interesting in closing, closing
thoughts, the Czech Republic essentially

has scrapped mandatory COVID-19 jabs.

Even as it's daily cases get higher.

They've said, you know what?

We still, we still believe.

That the vaccine works.

We still believe that it's a
good idea that you get the job.

We still believe that
this is the right way.

This is what's best for society,
but we recognize by mandating it by

forcing it by twisting people's arms
to get it by the compulsion that

it's creating a divided society.

And those who are hesitant.

Are becoming more hesitant.

Those are hesitant are becoming more
resistant because it's being mandated

because it's being forced upon them.

And so they said, we're
doing away with it.

It's just filtering,
filtering our society.

It's breaking up our society.

It's not working, it's not helping.

And instead they're
saying, here's the truth.

Here's the data do with it?

What you will, what do
you think is best for you?

You can decide.

That actually creates much more
opening, inviting environment for

someone to say, actually, yeah, I do.

I do kind of, I, I think
you might be onto something.

I think I want to do that, but that
requires freedom of speech, freedom

of thought and freedom of belief.

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