Level Up Your Spiritual Ego with Lorraine Nilon TSOD Ep 254

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Source doesn't see anything as negative. It's just

like this is an experience you're having in

physical that separate you from source energy so

that you can suffer a little bit and

create something new through that suffering experience

and then that expands your being, which expands

source, which is the reason we come to

physical. We are taught to demon eyes all

suffering and demon it for life. Oh, that

horrible thing that happened to when with your

child that's so terrible. It's awful. That should

have never been, and I'm like, no. That

was the best thing that ever happened to

me.

Welcome to the stream of Day podcast my

guest today is Lorraine Island.

Lorraine lorraine is a sole intuitive,

insightful life coach, philosopher, and spiritual teacher.

She is the creator of insight and awareness,

which offers books,

online courses workshops, intensive retreats in private sessions.

Our life purpose is to teach others about

the importance of self reflection and soul expression.

Welcome,

good see you... Happy... Yeah. Lovely to talk

to you again. I'm looking forward to it.

Yeah. I was just on your podcast. Maybe

just a week ago or so? Yeah. Yeah.

And it was an interesting conversation. I think

we worked out that we could talk all

day if we were let loose So... And

and very similar in the way that we

look at things and explore things, which I

really love. Always

no to meet a kindred spirit.

Yeah. I looked... I I'm not gonna say

that I read your book because that would

not be true. I looked through your book

in great detail.

I kept stopping and thinking yes. Yes. Yes.

This is it. This is

and the part that really struck me that

I like that I didn't haven't really talked

to a lot about.

Is

spiritual ego.

Yeah.

Love to get into because that... That's a

that's kind of a thing in our world

isn't.

Oh, absolutely. And and the way that I

write all my books is so that you

can open a page and just explore a

concept.

And in especially the other book that I've

got. That's the idea of it. You know,

it's it's a bit heavier,

But it's about just opening a page and

getting a concept to explore.

And and when we're looking at

spiritual ego, what I found.

And I've done it myself, this isn't a

criticism on anyone. Because I've done it myself

is that we follow trends and we look

for results. If I do this, will I

feel this way will I get what I

want?

And that feeds our ego,

and it makes us lose that sense of

individuality.

And sometimes people confuse,

individuality and ego together. You know I'm defending

my rights. I'm, you know, I've watched people

use. Oh, I'm I'm just telling the truth

and they're offend people and they're being nasty

and spite, but it's the truth that this

truth.

And at that's that's ego feed. But when

you you might understand the truth and you

can explain it in a way

that lets you hold to your individuality without

causing extreme harm to other people.

So when we're looking at ego, it's where

you discount everything, and you actually put a

coverage

over your soul and operate from that that

camouflage

of

often saying the right words but the energy

and the words aren't matching.

So...

And 1 of the reasons I sort of

really started to explore spiritual. I had a

she was an abuse victim, and she was

really struggling.

And she had a few sessions and then

she, you know, I didn't hear from her

again, and then she come back

Probably about 2 or 3 years later, and

she said that she met someone

who talked very similar to me, and she

followed him, but she actually walked into, like

a halt like

situation,

and it would got extreme very extreme,

but she kept just

trusting these words and I said no. What

what did you see that backed up any

of those words, How did it feel? She

was constantly scared

I was doing the wrong thing,

and I said, he was then using your

victim hood and getting you to a align

with ego

you know, I'll get this right, and then

I'll be a special person too. That was

his theme.

And I said, you just got caught in

the trap. So she's doing really well now,

which is brilliant.

But I thought there's a real danger in

this if we don't understand

spiritual ego

because it opens a door to a lot

of people that walking with really good intentions.

And they walk into something that they can't

recognize.

And and

especially for people that are, you know, that

had had abusive or toxic

relationships or, you know, really struggling to understand

their own individuality.

When you're looking for something, if you you

will

pull into your shame of I'm not getting

this right

instead of recognizing

everything in within me saying this isn't right.

So that's why spirituality goes really important to

at least explore and be very open to

how easy it is for us all to

fall into that trap.

Certainly.

I I always say that Ego serves to

overs shadow source. It's sort of this duality.

I think we talked about this. Right? This

duality that we operate in. And your ego

is sort of overs that. And then when

you get into

something new that you found that you're really

excited about it, it starts changing your life.

That's something that's sort of a phase of

spiritual awakening,

you wanna shot up from the rooftops, which

is great, but you also now believe that

you have the keys to the universe, and

therefore,

you're superior in some way.

You know, I'm a star seed. I'm of

this. I I've heard all of this stuff

before. And

it's okay to believe that you're worthy of

the universe because we're all expressions of source.

But soon as you start getting into that,

I'm superior thing,

source is not present in that.

Because source is very clear, the person that

doesn't believe in source the atheist, you know,

the somebody that really believes in in religion

in a very devout way,

they they are no better or worse than

anyone else, we're all the same in that

regard.

Yeah. And I 1 thing, I... I did

this very early, which I think was, I

call it my saving grace

is... And I refer to sources

truth, you know, Like I, I...

And it comes in many forms and it

comes in lots of different ways. But I

look at it as

it's a

a friendship, and a friendship needs to have

mutual respect for it to work.

And

source

is really happy to walk beside me as

a friend.

But I also have to be really prepared

to be a good friend to source,

and that mutual respects

respect keeps that

that level of

honesty

in the relationship. If we then use

truth or source or the the concept of

it because we're not really using it once

we go into ego, we're not We're not

of it. We're not aligned with it. We're

not having a friendship with it. We're abusing

source.

And I used to years ago get really

offended when I'd see it. And and now

I understand that somebody else's path. So don't

it just where they are in their experience

and some people would stay there, and some

people move through that and move I certainly,

when I when I first started doing what

I do

I had a little bit of a savior

thing going on. A little... I'm gonna save

the world. I'm gonna change the world with

this, and I saw very quickly that no.

That was never what this was about that

this is

aligning

with people who are aligned with it. And

sometimes, I'll even say, like ready for it.

And even that has a ego in. Right?

That's sort of like, you know, you have

to progress to be ready for stuff.

Not to catch myself because when I say

ready for it, I don't mean

you've... You're worthy of it now. I just

mean that you're aligned with it. We really

do have to watch our words sometimes because.

Spirituality is a big tent. Probably a bigger

tint of religion if you think about it.

And there's just so many different

mindset and modalities, and it kind of just

encompasses either your religious, you're an atheist or

your spiritual. And that's

spiritual part means so many different things to

so many people.

Yeah. And it's... And then sort of why

I wrote a lot about individuality and uniqueness.

Because we're we're herd animals, you know, like

we're tribal. We want to fit into a

tribe. We want to feel a sense of

belonging.

And it's very strong, It's extremely strong in

us, and there's nothing wrong with that. But

a real honest,

collective of people like consciousness is a collective

is all individuals holding to their individuality

within that collective.

And as soon as we start dictating and

molding,

what someone should think,

feel,

behave, all those kind of things,

then all of a sudden, we've got to

dictate a shit, which is now you're turning

into a religion. That that's how I appreciate

the 2. Right? Is is okay. You'd layer

on rules,

in deities and worship. Well, now you're not,

you know, spiritual religion certainly intersect, but Yeah.

They be more into the direction of religion.

And I was at a, a spiritual event

in Palm Springs years ago. It's actually where

I met Debbie g on my show quite

a bit.

And this it all kinds of different... The

big tent. There was even a woman there

with a cape and a wand.

Not thought interesting. And I was brand new

to this world

publicly.

And this this young lady got up, and

she led us in a prayer, and it

was a very christian prayer,

and I am... I don't identify as Christian.

I'm not a Christian you know, I have

not been in a long time. But it

was a lovely prayer, and I part took,

and I bowed my head, I gave it

power. You know, sheep she, this is what

she believes and and this is a lovely

moment. If the woman next to me. I

don't know she was she grabbed me. She

says, she's not doing it right. We're supposed

to be outside and bare feet.

I'm like, well, you know, if there's whether

it's source or God, I don't think we're

getting canceled because we're not doing it.

And and all those things have a place,

you know, like, if if that works for

you and sometimes in... When especially when people,

you know, Our will turned upside down. We're

looking for rituals where we're looking for something

for comfort.

So could have a pint, but it's just

that

dictatorship and you know, I always... I, this

is terrible, but I always look for... When

I'm in a religious

at a religious person's funeral. I wait for

the

the ind inauguration

conversation to start from the pulpit, You know,

like, okay. And I've seen this...

I won't say what church, and I won't

say what funeral was. But I seen this

guy put his arms out. He said all

those here

today

that aren't part of this church. You're damned

to hell.

I was like, we're here to celebrate someone

else's locked. Yeah. That has nothing to do

with you. Yeah. Yeah. And your ego is

so great. That you have used her funeral

for that moment. Yeah. Could you imagine morning

the loss of someone that you loved and

then hearing that you're gonna burn in hell

from, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And then with silence, you could

hear everyone to

hold their breath and just sort of, like,

what just happened And I was like, how

what part of christianity is that? It was

a hijacking. Of a few... Was a high...

Or, definitely. I... When you said, I just

fell back because my father passed away last

September and 1 of his former students as

a minister and did the Eu g, and

my brother got up and said a few

things. I did not. So I'm like, okay.

My belief system is probably not gonna work

in room. And

the... Because my belief system is... This is

all perfect. This is exactly what it should

be, and he's released now. And he's... You,

nobody wants to hear that know, not somebody

that's not into what we're doing So I'm

not here to push my thing, that's why

I didn't get up and speak. But he

did a really good job not going down

that path. You all. Now that now that

you're saying that I really do appreciate that

it was a very,

you know, the very secular

eu, and it was really a a celebration

of him and of him. And then this

person actually had a greater relationship with my

father than I did. So which was... Interesting

experience for me, but I digress. So the

notion But that's what a funeral should be.

Yeah. You know, it's about that person

and comforting the people

in celebration of their life.

Yeah.

More than, you know, by the way, I'm

gonna doctor All of you know my religion.

You're gonna burn an hell if you don't

think like I do, take a pile on

the way out.

Basically growth. Yeah. You know, It's it's like,

if you if you believe in God or

the concept of God that most religions have

some sort of concept of that, Does that

powerful energy that is a creator of all

things

really need you to sell it that way?

Yeah.

Yeah. And 1 of things are stream said

all long time ago was very early on

is we are source. I do channel source.

I think we all do in our own

way.

We don't need you to worship us? Why

would the source of all creation need to

be worship or even obeyed? And it just

made so much more logic to me

that you know, vengeful God. You... I'm gonna

create you so you can worship me. I'm

gonna give you desires. But if you act

on, I'm gonna Daniel you to hell. Yeah.

Here's like here's the rule book. And by

the way, the world gonna gonna come out

in the last the most recent 2000 years.

Of all history of the universe.

Yeah. And someone's gonna have a lot of

power because they hold the rule book. You

know, which is which is where

mankind has, or, you know, you... I I

call mankind, those

of us who have forgotten that we are

sole in a, a physical body. And I

call humanity. We're in our humanity when we

remember we're souls in a human. Mh. Physical

body. And I... That's how I gotta run

the 2.

But with mankind energy and when we operate

from that has made those rules and and

has

altered stories and changed it to suit the

control structures that they wanted.

And, you know,

there was a time where that was the

power, and nobody was

thinking

individually and thinking about their uniqueness and thinking

about their own

relationship

with source.

Truth it's empowering, really, It's... You know, you're

you're not the creator of your well being,

I call it abundance, but you're well being

God is and it's taking that power away

from you. Yet you really are still creating

because there are people in that church that

are very wealthy and healthy and and and

living a whole different life than other people

that are in the same building.

Mh So,

I... That's the problem that I always have

because I grew up in a Christian religion,

and it was sort like, okay, God loves

all of us,

why are only white people in this building

and then in my hometown, everyone that wasn't

white was in another building across town and

we were separated.

Because of solving of course our building was

much nicer than they're building. And why does,

you know, my aunt who is so religious

tell me that God gave her a cadillac

for Christmas.

What do you know God made me too?

I want I wanna porsche. What's going on?

Joke. You know,

Wonky stuff that, okay, people tell themselves that...

Well, well, that's that's the thing, you know,

actually in I've got another book coming out

at the end of the year called emerging

awareness.

And it's for that stage of... You know

where your... Awareness is lightning, and your Ego

can run a mark, Well, all of us

got a story about it. Ego goes running

them up. And and it talks about that

a lot, but it your awareness is high,

but your comprehension and your understanding hasn't called

up. So I talk about that time and

then I... Also at the back of the

book Remind you of your actual essence, you

know, kindness,

compassion, all those are your natural essence.

But in there, I wrote a story about

my grandmother on my father's side.

And she was the... You know, there were

farmers and she go to church each,

Sunday

And his father

wasn't a religious man, but apparently was what

I never met him but he was 1

of the nicest men, generous, compassionate.

Men could ever meet. And I believe that

when you look at his the his children,

they're all of that.

And

the that... My father adds a little fellow.

It was only 2 or 3. He used

to play with the the

we call them originals back then now now

we call them first Nation people that live

down the road, and they were best of

mates, sort of same age, best of mates

and

And my his father had made him like

this truck out of ward. So he made

the same for, Warren

was the little boy's name and dad's name

Reg.

And these kids would play together and the

mothers would talk and you know, beautiful friendship.

And the church ladies organized to come out

and discuss something with Na. And so she

made tea, you know, Gone and tea, and

all the rest of it. And the kids

were playing. Like, you know, she had both

the boys are playing.

And they give it to her. I absolutely

slammed them for it. And then she got

up. The story goes, she got up, and

from the veranda could see these 2 little

kids playing with their wooden trucks

and said I don't know what you see,

but I see 2 little boys

having a beautiful friendship.

And gods in that. Mh. And then anyway,

apparently, there was a, you know, Donor as

they left the thing, and no 1 spoke

to her again. So she still went to

church,

but she sat at the back and no

1 spoke to her. And and and my

pops said, why do you keep going and

she goes, k God knows why I'm there.

They've got their own story, but I go

there to say,

I know you exist. I know you love

me, and I'm loving you back.

And that to me means she's the most

Christian woman

coming from a beautiful

sense of self

as well as being part of that, but

she got os size for it.

That's always interesting to me because if you

follow repeat, I was raised Christian, as I

said. And if you follow the teachings of

Christ,

Yes. That none of that ego is really

there. It's all about loving each other it's

very

hippie. It's very woke. You know, It's it

really is. And that's been so worked out

of it, especially, you where I am in

the United States, you know, kris Christianity is

morph, and I know not for everyone. And

I will say with a caveat here. I

give... I'm all about appreciation of all things.

So my appreciation of religion is that created

structure that kept humanity sort of, you know,

together and kept... Things moving forward it's the

basis of a lot of education and government

and stuff that served us to a point,

but we're sort of waking up from that

place now. But how can you say that

you're a Christian

and then turn around and judge and hate

people and say that you're in and pull

something out of the old testament,

which is definitely, you know, or they call

it a cafeteria catholic, When you you kinda

pick and shoes, you know, what what you're

gonna follow, pull something out of the old

testament to justify,

what's really complete ego.

No god the research present in this judgment

and domination of other people and

dictating customers things have. And forgetting all of

that,

judge not lest you be judged stuff that's

in there also.

Yeah. Which is, you know, it's a key

point. Isn't it. It's a it's a bit

of the advertisement to get you in the

door.

And then we'll tell you what to judge

You know, that I that... That their community

just ends up being we're superior. We know

better. We won't our way. And we're going

to force everyone to be. And there's a

lot of that. And it's it's. You know,

we we started kind of creating a destruction

of it, and now it's... At least where

I am, and I think this is happening

in other places too. It's coming on stronger

now. It's like, no. No No. We don't

wanna go away. I call this the matrix.

You know m.

We don't wanna go away. We don't wanna

be d att. We don't wanna be cast

aside. We're gonna really assert ourselves now. Because

now it's being... It's being ind.

Are being infiltrated into our schools and stuff

where that hasn't been in quite some time.

And we're being fed, you know, like I

said, whatever my belief. Fears. As soon as

I go on social media, it's gonna get

pumped at me. So I'm not I'm not

exploring anything. You know, I come from a

family where if you had an opinion, you

had to tell why you had that opinion.

Why why do you think that? Oh, because

of this is well actually you're missing a

fact. He's a fact. Going...

Go and look at that and find you

know, like, especially good stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Especially

with history. You know, like, oh, mean, why

do you think though? Well, because it. Well

go on and research that. So it'd be

like, oh, I didn't know this. You know?

And I still do that now. You know,

I'll, hear something like yes. I didn't know

that. But now that I do it changes

my perceptions. And but I realize that my

perception is constantly changing. And when you're talking

about...

Spiritual ego,

it will latch on.

It will be you latching onto something that

feeds something within you. That probably needs resolving.

Not feeding.

And then you'll hold to that position and

your fight like hell to hold onto it.

Whereas

spirituality is about being open and ready to

explore.

And constantly dynamically

changing. My my perception today is very different

to what it was. 2 years ago. 6

It will continue to evolve. You know you

probably know that now. Right? It would just

be, absolutely.

Yeah. We're beings and and we don't stop.

Every time I thought, I I reached the

ceiling. I know it all now. I really

understand the universe. I'm really there. I've crossed

the threshold and life's gonna be perfect.

I'm gonna create some sort of massive spin

out of my life to show me. You

don't know what damn thing. You're just getting

started with it. So I I told her

if I love the game because it doesn't

end. You're you're always d tuning things, you're

always learning more, you're you're getting a clear

picture. I just think it just doesn't end.

Oh, I agree. It's available right nowhere near

the, you know, the end of it. If

they're... I don't think there isn't an end

of it. I think it just...

Expansion is just eternal.

Yeah. I agree with that. And it and

it's interesting. When I go back right back

just when I started first exploring things.

And I... Because I could always see things.

I could always see, you know, what people

refer to a ghost or spirits or... And

sometimes I would hear things. And, you know,

all that sort of stuff. And it wasn't

made...

My family didn't make a big thing of

it. They were just like, okay. That's what

you do and You're okay. And I used

to freak people out. So I learned not

to sort of say what you could hear,

especially if it was someone's thought,

And you went, oh, you know, da,

and they'd be, like, yeah. So I I

sort of shut it down. And then when

I sort of hit that that sort early

twenties, I started looking at things again just

really tentatively walking in there and exploring things.

And I can remember seeing I was laying

on a lounge,

and I could see this being standing in

front of me, and it was like, you

can have whatever you want now I thought.

Okay.

This is good.

And

so and then it disappeared, and I went

and had a bath, and my ceiling sort

of went all this motley

like spun gold over the ceiling. I was

impressive, and

I was like, right. I can tell you

I had for someone that had a bath

every now and then, was having a bath

every night just in case that would come

back. So all these things were reassuring something

was happening.

And then this being the standing at the

end and said, we can make you the

greatest

clair. We can make you the greatest medium.

We can do all this... What do you

want?

And I looked at it and I thought,

I got a funny feeling in your word

source

does not bargain.

So I think you're all

full of nothing. I want nothing to do

with you. And I think in that moment

for me was choosing

spiritual ego

over honesty.

And I I needed the honesty. I needed

to feel it, and that felt wrong, and

I felt shallow.

So I call that my saving grace that

in those moments, I realized that authenticity

was more important than game playing. Because that

thing would have played with me and then

destroyed me it would have it made me

imp in on myself, which I... I didn't

know that then, but I do know that

now that that's how it would have played.

So it's real... I really feel for people

that have been caught up in those kind

of experiences, and that can be done with

a person.

It can be done with thought

It can be done with an outside influencing

you, something dark, influencing you and you don't

realize.

So there's lots of traps and it's that

authenticity,

it's trusting uniqueness and really trusting how it

feels.

It's gonna give you an idea of whether

you're walking the the right direction that's gonna

serve your purpose of evolving, because I think

we're here to

resolve what we have created that is not

of us.

And then so that we can

evolve into the truth of who we are.

We don't have to create it. It's already

there. We're just walking into it.

No.

Yeah. I'm gonna veer off for just a

moment into something you just shared though. So...

Yep. When you're having these Clair

experiences,

do you think

that that is something that is coming to

you

and appearing to you, or do you think

that that's something that your mind is creating

so that you're sort of channel energy in

a way that that you can connect with

it?

That's a really good question. That's a really

good question.

In that case, that was something coming at

me. And I could feel the at. So

that's something

outside coming at. Something was playing with me.

So that's not of source,

Alright?

When it is of source, it comes through

you, you feel it internally.

And sometimes I feel it very separated

from me, but I'm I'm,

you know, I think I talk in Friendship,

You know, It's like, a friends turned up.

And I and I feel that.

And sometimes

Can feel it a part of me.

It's it's my own awareness,

and and I've... It's taken me a long

time, and I'm sometimes still confused, but I

generally can tell

if it's...

From what our class is consciousness, something of

pure

purity,

and whether it... But but anything coming at

me from outside. I am quick to dismiss.

So

unless it is

someone's

crossed over seoul, like a

someone visiting

that way, that there's a completely different feel

for that. So...

Because my awareness is so broad,

I'm very aware of the dark forces as

well, like W

Energy and things like that. I'm not sure

if you're aware of all those kind of

things, but

that that there. So I'm very

cautious before

I align, and I don't

as far as

like, the old... I'm gonna say the old

fashioned version of channel, and letting something in

your system, which I think is very different

to what you do.

That's a access point where whereas

when I was, you know, in the... In

my twenties and early thirties, I was doing,

you know, visiting a lot of different and

looking at what they were doing.

And

I experimented

I would say about 5 minutes with that

because

it felt very dirty, It felt very gritty.

And as you would know, that's not when

you're accessing source,

that's not how it feels.

So

you know, And even there, I, you know,

I'm I'm sorry. I'm just having a little

internal giggle. I, you know, so leave my

grandmother story. I got little lost os size

from

1 particular group because I was went, this

is gritty. It's dirty, and I can see

really dark energy and and they just said

it. Aren't you, you know, you're you're not

aligning. You're not giving your heart, and I

was like, I'm out of here because this

don't feel right. I feel scared.

I've never felt scared,

at any time when there is consciousness,

energy, whether it's crossed soul or whether it's

part of source

in any form. So...

But you need all those experiences to learn.

Mh. You know, we're we're experienced based. And

well especially those of us that sort of

seek we have a little bit of it

that happens naturally, especially when we're young. But

if you continue forward and you start seeking

it, then you do need to understand what

it is. You're tapping into... I used to

use a pendulum.

Before I was really chatting with you now,

I would use a pendulum, and I got

very clear

Yes no in in this pendulum.

And every once well, I would be desperate

about something. This is a long time ago.

And I would want desperately want an answer

to something, and I grab that pendulum. I

dive in, And I'm like, I don't I

don't feel right right now

with this because, of course, the the pendulum

is reading your... You may not move at

all, but it's just... Still your vibe as

moving the pendulum. And I try to be

as still as I possibly can. I don't

wanna control it at all.

So

I remember I would do this little test.

Whatever I got there. I would if I

would ask something. I realized that I raced

into it. I didn't clear. I didn't raise

my vibration. I didn't meditate. I didn't do

anything. I just grabbed that up desperation. What

do you think you're connecting to energetically?

And I would... A couple of questions in?

I would say, should I kill myself and

the pendulum would say yes.

Like, okay. I know what I'm talking to

now. And I I don't personally believe in

evil spirits that are out there projecting. I

think it's more human more earth bound stuff

that's

it's energy for sure, but I think it's

more the density of earth and the the

polarity of earth. And certainly, there is negative

We we talk about the matrix. There's a

negative matrix. There's people that think gosh, If

I just kill enough people. I'll get my

way. You know? So how can we label

that? Source. Source isn't like that. Not. So...

So so that's what III realized oh, I'm

talking Yeah. No that because I'm desk it.

And my vibe is low and my ego

is more at play than source in this

moment.

Yeah. And when you when you hear, like,

Wat and that kind of energy, You're talking

about a collect of energy. So

come with me for a minute. Is when

when we're coming from our natural essence. So

say, you know, we're we're having an honest

conversation and reject got this general respect for

1 another. So we're creating a safe space

for each other to to express and talk

and and and we're not hitting each other

with judgment we're be excited to tell each

other out what we understand and all those

kind of things. So there's there's a really

good

truthful energy happening So we could refer that

to that as having a conscious

vibration.

If I came with the agenda, and I

wanted to prove you wrong, and I wanted

to judge you and I wanted to put

you down, I wanted do all those nasty

things.

I'm counting from what what is my soul

unconscious it's, my emotional baggage because I'd be

doing that to feed

something within myself. I wanna feel superior or

whatever it is.

That energy generates. And that's the energy that

is in the mankind collective.

Alright? So we've got our

humanity collective, which is the truth of us

within assault, you know, souls within a human

body, and we've got our natural essence, and

we've got our mankind collective.

Which is all the emotional baggage and and

an and all those different kinds of vibrations

that we create.

When we're opposing each other, when we're against

each other. When we feeding it, whatever ego,

you know, all those things.

That energy is what you can tap into.

Now there are certain things that will feed

off that energy, and they will have their

own agendas.

But some people feed off that energy and

they have their own agendas. If you've ever

been in a room with someone that air,

you know, that's gas lighting you every time

you say, the skies blue their around here

the point with you. Every time you say

something they're sc at you and try and

get the crowd to join them. All those

kind of things that's pulling,

you know, as there is people that we

use that energy, there's also other dark stuff

that we use that energy. But we also

have

things that are using the conscious energy and

of conscious energy. And it's where the interface

between the 2

and we're deciding what energy we work with.

And sometimes we've got to deep into our

lower vibrations because they're in our system

and part of the evolutionary process is to

pull them up,

deal with them and convert them into something

conscious, which could be wisdom. You know, if

you think, you know, you're like me. If

you go back when you were first exploring

it,

what you understand now is is miles away,

but all those experiences and all those things

that we had, We had to experience. Right.

It got you here.

Yeah. Here. It's all expansion of consciousness. All

of the dark bad, low carb stuff exists

to inspire new positive creation.

That's why source doesn't believe anything is... Source

doesn't see anything as negative. It's just like

this is an experience you're having in physical

that separates you from source energy so that

you can suffer a little bit and create

something new through that suffering experience, and then

that expands your being, which expands source, which

is the reason we come to physical.

And

understanding that is such a life changing thing

because we are taught to demon all suffering

and fear, and, you know, demon it for

life. Oh, that horrible thing that happened to

you when as your child that's so terrible.

It's awful. That should have never been, and

I'm like, no. That was the best thing

that ever happened to me.

You know, and the things that happened throughout

my lifetime now. I can look back at

all of them and see how it just

propelled me forward.

Yeah. And you can only do that if

you've been on a you know, a healing

resolving process.

For those that are stark,

they can't... They're stuck. You know. So they

don't they don't feel that. And they need

argue with you, which I don't engage in

that, but they... Like, on my Tiktok,

they wanna argue that, no No. And I...

Whatever I have a Tiktok that I put

out, and it does really well. It always

starts with all the people that are pushing

against it.

I know I had another 1 that did

really well this week and I, I didn't

notice it for like, a whole day. And

I just logged on. Like, oh, wow. This

got a lot of use. What's going on

here. And, like, it's never the 1 and

I think is gonna do well by the

way. So I just stopped trying. So I've

looking through the comments, and the comments are

just a... Oh, my gosh. This is wonderful.

This is great. I love this. I agree.

And all really positive. And then you get

down lower into the beginning comments, and it

was all the this is crazy. Oh, you're

a white male. What do you know? All

this, you know, all this nasty trolling stuff.

And I'm just so appreciative of that. Now,

so Like, yeah. Thank you all for boosting

my video. Now it's reaching the people that,

you know, want it and connect with it,

but it's sort of, like that algorithm.

But is so much like

is so... I don't wanna say source like,

but it's so, like, universal creation.

And that you're getting what you're focusing on

in real time. And I noticed my feed

today. I was sitting relaxing and just kind

of thumb through. I don't know if you're

a Tiktok. And it was really political. I'm

like well, that's because I'm stopping and listening

to some of the stuff. I don't want

all these politics. So I went and watch,

like, house videos. Like, I wanna see more

about Spanish architecture. And then suddenly, everything's about

Spanish architecture. I'm like, oh, this is my

vibe. I love this so much better. And

that's and that's that's why people are getting

stuck because they they're cord in it. And

in in my books, I'm always... As you

would have noticed, there's places where there's questions.

Mh. And there's no.

It's it's it's kind of a living workbook.

Beauty is. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. At the

end of the in the end of the

podcast, we're gonna tell you already to get

her book by the way, everybody. Thank you.

Bye... Why don't take a quick break?

Yep. Go ahead. Finish your thought. And we'll

take a about. Oh, I was gonna say

the reason why I do that is so

that you're pulling more into your own individuality,

and you're pulling more into your own understanding.

But it is important to know it's gonna

keep moving. That's a good. It's a really

good teaching book. I could tell, by the

way you laid it out. And I I

spent 5 years writing the tire practice book.

And then at the last minute decided, you

know, I should put some extra exercises this

and it's a 4 and 76 page book.

And I'm preaching, you know, Not preaching, but

still, you know, I'm teaching the whole way,

but

stopping and putting the case studies in the

exercises, I think made... And it's it's very

well received now because I think we did

those things. So it's it's good that your

book has all of that like take this

and apply it to yourself

before you just race through the book because

these books you we... If we really resonate

with these books, going back to them again

and again and again is the way to

do it. Instead of, you know, putting that

down and saying, well, that didn't work and

move on to the next thing, no, everything

is the power that you give to it.

If this resonates with you stay with this

for a while.

Yeah. And even even what I do in

workshops as you start off with a questionnaire,

we do the workshop for 2 days. Then

you come back And the question is it's

written differently, but it's written the same. And

then you compare the 2 and you can

actually see how far you come.

And what you're... What what you have expanded

and what how your perceptions change and the

book is designed the same way. So you

can go back to any of those questions.

6 months, 2 weeks, whatever,

and and compare them. So you've got a

contrast and you can go, oh, okay. I

get this now.

So... And that's where I was. And that's

where I am. Just. Yeah. Yeah. Brand.

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Hello?

You have questions for us?

Yeah. I I'm on my podcast, I ask

every guest.

What does humanity need to acknowledge and understand

for us to evolve? So I'd really like

to know how you would answer that.

Our stock answer if you will would be

that humanity doesn't truly need to do anything.

You're you're going to evolve no matter what.

Your your evolution of consciousness is guaranteed because

of the polarity of your environment and and

the ever expansive

ego consciousness that humanity is created for itself.

All life is expansive

by nature. And even life that is dying

out is coming back as something that's perhaps

more suited and more efficient for the environment.

So you're your all internal beings,

and you're on this journey of expansion of

consciousness and in physical form, no matter what

you do in your physical journey, you're going

to expand your consciousness. So in that regard

there's no need, but we very well understand

that your question has a deeper

request than that.

So we will give you an answer. And

and the answer to that would be that

that you are all

d tuning the matrix of thought that you

have created for ourselves. Around the last 50

years in in in earthly time,

you have all started this what you may

have begun calling a a new age movement.

Where you were starting to question things that

that very much were were considered facts

with your parents and grandparents and so forth.

And in your collective questioning, you're exploring, and

you're exploring the energetic realm in different ways.

And you're coming to understand that a lot

of the things that were attached by humanity,

to the energetic realm or not necessarily so

and are certainly not necessarily serving you any

longer. You don't need these tools anymore. So

as you exit the matrix,

and you come to understand conscious creation, which

is how all creation occurs. And you come

to understand your unique independent nature in creating

your what you call life experience or your

reality,

1 of the the

functions of the matrix, which doesn't want to

be d tune even though you're all collectively

d tuning it via

communication and in the things that you've created

with technology that allow you to collectively get

together in question.

You're looking at things very differently, and and

you're looking at them differently and understanding them

on a deeper level,

you are causing them to fracture and sort

of fall away.

Because you're you're not fearing them anymore, you're

understanding them so deeply that they simply aren't

a factor for you. So as you do

this, and you have this journey out of

the matrix.

The function of the matrix that typically draws

you back in at this stage of awakening

as you call it

is the concern for others.

Yes, you create your own reality, and you

can allow your own well being regardless of

what's going on in the world around you,

but this

idea that humanity is created that you have

to be the savior of others that you

have to be concerned for them. And therefore,

you have to demon

any suffering they're experiencing.

That is that is the next thing To

give a singular answer. That is the next

thing for all of you that are on

our awakening journey is to understand that

allowing others to have their journey, whatever it

looks like to you without judgment. Or fear

on their behalf

is the path to mass awakening.

Because when you are

d tuning your life trans, and you are

making peace with wherever you've been and wherever

you are, you're raising your vibration. And doing

so, your life personally is just going to

get better and better and better. Abundance is

going to flow, well being is going to

flow,

love of everything that you are experiencing is

going to be a natural state, and it's

a glorious way to be as you well

know.

You want that for other beings

and we understand that. But in you're desi

that for other beings, when you slip into

the judgment

of what they're experiencing as this should not

be.

This war should not be. This genocide should

not be. This hunger should not be this

dirty water they're having to drink should not

be in your fierce judgment of those things,

you're actually fueling those things.

You are are inadvertently helping to create more

of that on their behalf. And you're bringing

some things like that into your own experience

when you do that.

So the the next the next frontier for

all of you that are at the forefront

of what you call awakening is to understand

that in your

appreciation of them and their experience.

As we appreciate them in their experience.

You are aligning with our energy, which is

healing, solving energy for all topics,

universally.

We we are often asked,

why do you allow such things to occur?

It is because we are not allowing it.

We are

understanding

that this ego driven experience that you're in

in this polarized environment

is create is is simply an experience. First

of all, and the creation of the physical

environment exists

so that you can separate so that you

can have a little bit of suffering as

you call it, and you can want for

something because as long as you're wanting for

something you're creating.

In your eternal state of consciousness you want

for nothing. It it is absolutely a glorious

way to be, but there's no expansion offered

in that. You spanned by coming into physical

life

situations. And in doing so,

experience polarity where your ego kicks in, and

you want something for yourself. You discern some

preferences you want to experience those things. You

are all of the earth environment, so you

love the earth environment. You love the elements

especially when you believe that you can experience

them. And so when you come and have

these experiences, yet, you have the illness or

the the poverty, or the

relationships that go sour on you and things

like this, and it creates a little suffering

a little disconnect. You you generally come through

that and out of That is your real

natural state to move through that experience come

out of it, and you can come out

of it, a more evolved being not only

as a human being, but an eternal friend

of consciousness and the having of that experience,

and especially in the solving of it. So

if you are believing that,

but the matrix is still drawing you back

in and your judgment of others experiences.

You're not allowing them to have their own

expansive journey.

Is that. That is the 1 thing.

But isn't it, like, if you're coming at

it from compassion

and kindness,

and you see someone suffering, if you're coming

from

that if, you know, if you can say

that pure intent if you're pure and. I

know we can think we're coming from compassion

and we're not.

But if you're coming from compassion and kindness,

isn't that part of the solution to,

seeing

especially mass suffering, you know,

like, people unjust like people

experiencing things that are completely out of their

control but causing them a lot of harm.

Isn't it through our compassion and kindness that

that can create a solution?

The solution would be created in that scenario.

And we will add here that when you

are operating in source consciousness primarily

with a little bit of ego in and

more source present.

We refer to this as is up your

spiral.

When you are that way, you are naturally

appreciative of all of their beings.

You are not concerned about being harmed by

them, you want the very best for them.

That that is that is to be expected

when you're up your spiral.

Because you you are

wanting

others to experience what you were experiencing,

but that desire is still has some ego

in it.

When you move even further up your spiral,

you can view and compassion still, but not

needing anything to change for them because you're

understanding that they are having their experience

and that their soul came here to have

the exact experience that they're having and even

in suffering they're expanding their consciousness.

And it really is about understanding that their...

The healing power is in the appreciation of

them

even in their experience of suffering.

Loving them,

wanting the very best for them.

Certainly, if you are guided to Lend a

hand in some way,

we are not going to judge that.

But the lending hand is in loving

appreciation of them even though they're in their

suffering experience,

knowing that they can pull themselves out of

it.

Knowing that moving through it even if they

don't physically survive it, their soul is eternal.

And they're ever hair having this temporary experience,

So it's the energy behind the compassion.

I I see you. I love you. I

want the very best for you.

I appreciate what you're experiencing now, and I

appreciate that you can make it a temporary

experience if if you deem so.

That is different energy than

that is so wrong, that is so terrible

that is so awful that shouldn't not be.

Those horrible people are doing this thing to

you. This is so unfair. The world is

terrible. Your vibration is going down and and

down and down when you're doing that, and

you don't have as much to offer in

lower vibration to anyone, as you do in

higher vibration. So help all you want, be

compassionate all you want. We are not here

against that certainly.

Just understand that that loving

appreciation of them,

even in their suffering state and focusing on

their well being,

is doing more for them and focusing on

their well being without need. We would guide

you to do the same thing focusing on

your well being without need because a need

is going to lower the vibration. Need is

going to be answered with more need as

you're well aware. So

think about the nuances of how you're feeling

in your compassion.

There is a compassion that is I love

you. I want the best for you. You

are having your expansive journey. You're having your

experience

you're moving through this experience and regardless of

the outcome, you are going to be an

expanded being in the process.

That is that is healing powerful energy. And

it is reverb out across humanity

across Earth and into the universe and and

helping more than you can even imagine.

Much more so than the judgment of what

1 is experiencing.

Yeah. I can follow that. So how is...

Are we

becoming...

I don't know. Are we becoming darker? Or

are we in general becoming lighter?

In in our

evolutionary process.

You are absolutely

ever becoming lighter.

Understand that your recorded histories

present to you

far more darkness

because that is appealing to you that that

fear mechanism is so well developed across humanity

at this time, and it does not have

to stay that way, but that fear mechanism

is so well developed. It is tripped when

you read something about the horrors of the

past or the horrors of the present,

and you are you are drawn to it,

and you're being drawn to it in judgment

of it is fueling more of it. That's

why it keeps reoccurring in your world.

You... Your personal life experience is a reflection

of humanity,

of the earth environment, end of the entire

universe.

So your personal life experience, you've all moved

through these down flow dark periods in your

lives.

And they can end you in physical, for

sure. They do not end you your eternal

consciousness at all. Your eternal consciousness does not

judge any of that. The dart period from

your sole perspective is an expansive period as

much as the the light high period where

you were at your very best from an

ego perspective.

So you're moving through these dark periods, and

you were able to in time usually look

back and say, that was hard to experience,

but I'm so glad that I did.

It expanded me. I'm wiser now. I'm smarter

now. I know what it's like when someone

else tells me they're suffering, I can identify

with that because I have suffered as well.

Take that and apply that to all of

humanity.

These dark periods that you speak of

exist to span, we often use the analogy

of think of a of a forest,

untouched by humanity that is completely self sufficient

and and in in a beautiful place,

yet, there is still going to be what

you might call contrast. The animals are eating

1 another. There's predatory practices going on in

nature of course. And storms are going to

come through and create destruction. But every time

the storm comes through and creates destruction, the

forest grows back more lush more green stronger

than ever the physical beings that perish, whether

it's through a storm or a predatory practice

or just through a natural death if there's

such a thing that in in that environment.

The the d physical vehicle feeds

the environment it fertilize fertilizer the environment.

Life feeds life in your world, but the

consciousness

behind all of that is eternal.

So when when a when a platform or

a life form is becomes prey for something

else or is destroyed in a storm,

The consciousness that creates that simply moves on

to another form, typically a more sophisticated form

because that's just the next logical step or

natural step in the journey?

Yeah. I like that. So what why do

we get so stuck? What what is the

cause of us

emotionally

and mentally getting stuck.

This this matrix of beliefs that humanity has

created.

That

there is absolutely nothing wrong with. The matrix

of beliefs as his humanity has created is

the very thing that propelled you to this

point where you're coming back around to what

you all knew all along.

You are the creators of reality that your

physical vehicle is simply an experience that you're

having, It is meant to have a a

beginning a middle in and end. There is

no right amount of time or right type

of experience to have in it. You're all

coming to understand that. But all of the

suffering and all of the structures and the

religions and the governments and all of the

things that you've been speaking about, those are

things that you all created to move you

here. And the reason that you are experiencing

such a magnificent time in your environment and

it's truly magnificent. We we are not judging,

but we are speaking in human terms.

That this is an interesting time for all

of you because your earth environment is maturing.

It's moving up

rapidly to this different level. And this different

level those of you that are listening to

things such as this are understanding it you're

feeling it. And you may be a little

challenge to fully comprehend it, but you're curious

you're drawn to it. There's a reason for

that. Your your soul is calling you into

it. Your soul is saying this way, this

way, come this way. This is where you're

heading. And all of the work that you've

done which includes all of your suffering experiences

and notice that many of you that are

at the forefront of thoughts such as this,

have had more suffering experiences than the typical

person often.

Your suffering experiences

made you question everything.

If if if my judgmental

loving God truly loves me, how did this

happen? Well, maybe it's not what it was

described as in in these Sunday school that

I attended.

Or or whatever it was, Whatever the scenario

is, you start questioning.

I am not the way that society tells

me I'm supposed to be what's wrong with

me. I feel different.

You're you're not different. You're just at a

different place in your journey than others are

at this time. But it takes that entire

spectrum

of beliefs to create the earth environment. Everything

from someone who believes in absolutely nothing to

someone who believes in an salute powerful vengeful

God and everything in between that entire spectrum

creates the environment. So you need the very

worst very most what what you may consider

evil, physical being and the most ben ambivalent

and everything in between that. You will always

have some version of that. No matter what

you do, but

how it plays out is going to continually

evolve. And what humanity is doing now that

is making this such a as we are

using your terms magnificent time

is because you are starting to create technology

in your own image.

Some of your books will say that God

created man in his own image.

There is some wisdom in that because now

you are the ones

becoming the gods of your world.

You are creating technology to serve you

And in creating this technology to serve you,

you are absolutely

changing your matrix

because your matrix is largely built on commerce,

which is created and built on exchange and

fear and judgment.

So you're wanting to move away from fear

and judgment and you were seeing the inequities

in the exchange system.

Because inevitably, with an ego driven consciousness and

and and all physical life has a version

of what you call ego, there's always going

to be someone who wants a little more.

Because you all want, You all want to

experience the earth environment. And if you tried

to flat line your vibration, that would be

the only path to true Utopia,

but that's not going to happen for you

by design because there's always going to be

1 being that clicks just 1 click up

and says yes, I want my...

My hut to be just a little bigger

than the hut next door. To be a

little nicer, a little newer. I I want

my physical vehicle to be a little more

appealing. Whatever it is, whatever it is. That's

all it takes to disrupt all of that,

and you were back in what you make

chaos once again. But it's not really chaos.

Everyone's experiencing their own version of this reality.

It's all being served up to you all

the time.

But now you've created,

and you have challenged yourself so much, and

you you have begun to collectively find

collective disdain for your system of commerce and

you're destroying it.

You're destroying it because you're creating technology that's

going to unemployed

most of humanity at some point. There is

nothing that your tu technology cannot replace you.

So is it going to truly replace you?

Or is it going to be in service

of you? That is up to all of

you. So this this changing, this becoming so

intelligent yourselves. That you are able to create

in your own image.

That is a massive energetic turning point for

your environment.

And we are guiding you to be thrilled

by this. We're not guiding you to fear

this. We are guiding you to the awareness

that you are becoming so aware of your

own ability to create consciously

that you don't need the old system of

exchange anymore, that you don't need to work

or or offer anything

to live a joyous abundant life.

And many of you are beginning to teach

yourselves that. You're allowing your abundance to flow

in magical ways that are not necessarily attached

to exchange.

And and that is where you're heading. So

you're going to break the system that has

broken you, and you're going to emerge from

that wiser beings in that process.

I like, break the system that's broken ass.

I like that. You needed to break yourselves

in order to to be forced to break

it. You... You... You you were a stubborn

lot. And that's not unusual. But sometimes you

have... And and this is true in your

personal life. Sometimes you have to get all

the way down to 0. At the edge

of the cliff, to allow the miracle to

actually trans. You don't have to do that,

but you do that for yourselves. You... But

but when you do though, you show yourselves

how powerful you are. We're guiding you to

understand that that works all the time on

all topics. The only reason that things don't

show up is because you still have some

disbelief to work on. But the work is

also your expansion of consciousness. So allow it

to take however long it takes, Just understand

that it's you doing it. It's always coming

in internally when you are prolong something or

you're suffering in something. It is always in

your mind is always your mindset every single

time.

K. Very interesting.

Yeah.

Thank you. We have shared quite a bit.

And and as always, we share a lot

of information a few words, and and we

guide you to go back and watch this

if you find it appealing again and again

and again, all of you that are listening

with much love.

That is what we have.

Thank you.

Good questions.

Interesting is interesting. And it is. For that,

but I don't 5 minutes or now Won't

remember any of.

Yeah. Oh, to be honest to me else

we, I'm gonna have to go back I

can listen to it too because I... Yeah,

just to to sort of sit

and and actually hear it without

still thinking. You know, and you you're thinking

just just to actually hear it. So... Well,

I like to say there was there was

something in there

that

you were challenged by

that their audience is going to be challenged

by 2, and you went deeper as... That's

why, like, interaction where there's follow up. With

the stream. I used to just come on

and just do this. Because excited know I

talked. I didn't know anybody and this is

why I first started the podcast in in

2017.

But when I started having en inclusive people

that would come on and challenge a little

bit and say, well, what about this? And

what about that? That's when I'm in the

background thinking Yeah. That's a great question because

we do need to address that for people.

I can remember...

And I'll tell you, I can explain why

I do that because

and then this is a pivot... You don't

have pivotal moments where you go, yeah. That's...

That makes sense.

I was in, Jack,

concentration camp,

of, back, you know,

years ago. And there was an ex american

cons soldier who was the tour guy. And

I happened to arrive, the day they had

their most visitors ever, and he crammed us

all into 1 of the

the places where the people slept,

and we're all crammed in it and any

and he just stood in the middle and

he didn't start talking

and everyone people were complaining and we're all

pushed up to together, and it was hot

and and sweaty. And and then he let

us go for a while, and then then

he said, oh, by the way, all of

you that are un uncomfortable comfortable. You can

leave at any time, the people that were

originally here, they couldn't.

And and

you know, and there was just as many

people crammed into here and, you know? So

he he lets you feel that. Mh. And

he and he had this I wish I

could repeat it because it was it was

funny, but

you said all you tree hug have... You

know, hip his. How did you think this

was going to stop?

If we didn't come in with some sort

of force.

And and it kind of put in perspective

for me, we can sit back and we

can say love and light.

But there also has to be an action

that says

due to compassion,

we can't stand still and watch these people

suffer. Now throughout the world we do.

And sometimes we do it with lip service,

you know, just with spin over the top

of it. And we're not really, you know,

getting in there and being honest about how

how humanity should be treating humanity. So that's

why I questioned on the

compassion. If we want change, how do we

create change? Yeah. Well it's and it's always

the... With

the source, it's always the energy behind everything.

Because we... Again, we're looking at it from

the ego perspective that these human beings

were suffering, and it's always disturbing anything around

the holocaust is always disturbing.

Of course, it is. Rounding up people. Should

be disturbed. Yeah. Yeah. You know, short.

It it know, this doesn't stop me for

being a disturbed by it. I'm not nearly

as a store as I used to be

though? Simply because, okay, this happened,

what's what's the energy of me sitting and

being disturbed by it and and judging it,

But I can certainly say that is absolutely

not my preference.

How do we shift the energy so that

that doesn't happen again?

And that's it. And that's that's where I

chime in with acceptance. You know what I

mean? Like? So when something's disturb us, to

me, that's our soul.

Recognizing we're hurting

another part of ourselves. If you wanna put

in that terminology,

but we're where, you know I look at

equality, it doesn't matter who you are, what

you where you're from,

what your... How much money you got your

bank account is an inequality between your soil

and I side we're the same.

So

So it's kind of, like, where where I

chime in, and it's like, I have to

allow myself to be disturbed because it's disturbing.

I don't have to wear it, and I

don't have to go or, you know,

you know, stand and, you know, due to,

you know, all that sort of thing

I've got be... But I've gotta be honest

about it. I've gotta be honest that this

is harmful,

and this is

hurting people.

And it's... My understanding is is the more

truthful and honest that I can be

and feel the truth of my feelings.

You know, that... That's really sad or that's,

you know,

disturbing.

Then then it will move

Right? But if I gloss over it,

what I'm really doing is suppressing the truth.

And whenever truth is suppressed,

change can't happen and

acceptance of reality doesn't occur, and that opens

up the field.

For lip service,

deception,

all those kind of things. That's just that's

how I see it. So I get

I get... That's that's why I challenged it

in the in new channel

because I wanted to hear what their perspective

of of that. Yeah. It's it's a different...

Yeah know, it's definitely not an Ego driven

perspective at all because the ego is, like,

we can't let that happen. We've gotta get

in there. And, you know, again, if somebody

were beating a dog up in front of

my house, I would go out and probably

beat the crap out of the person and

say to the dog Of course I would.

Of course I would. Yeah. But

how do you really solve these things? Because

we still

haven't solved genocide

we still haven't involved, you know, people being

enslaved and prison. That's still... That energy keeps

moving. Right? Like, we we might battle it

and kind of stop it out here and

then it just pops up over there. So

what their thing is is that

have your experience do what you do. And

if they're gonna have the experience of being

murdered in a concentration camp, there's nothing wrong

with sending in an army to

annihilate the people that are doing it because

it's it's, you know, it's the same. But

understand the bigger picture is they're are all

internal beings, they're all internal friends of here

having with temporary experience. And humanity will finally

move toward

understanding conscious creation in that

the real solving of that

is in the deeper understanding of it, not

the fear and judgment of it because a

lot of fear and judgment people never again,

never again, we can't let that happen all

I hear right now from, you know, I'm

a gay man. I live in a very,

promptly gay town, and everybody just keeps saying

this is, you know, this is Germany right

now happening the United States, This is the

Hitler playbook. They're gonna round all the gaze

up and put us in a concentration camp.

All this fear mon of around all of

the stu.

And I don't want any part that because

I'm like, I'm not going to c create

that. I'm not gonna create that. My well

being is a shirt, I would love to

be able to jump into that group and

say, hey, Guess what? All you have to

do is think that, you know, you're okay

and you'll be okay. I do believe in

that. I believe that, yeah, if it starts

looking... I I I'll be portable. I'll get

the hell out of here. But...

I see is created

can.

Yeah. What the matrix draws us in is

that I can't go say that to other

people at this point because not everybody is

in this mindset. They're gonna say what the

hell is wrong with you. And don't you

care about everybody else that's left behind. My

answer is yes, I do, but I know

s the fear and judgment is not the

path to solving that. Yeah. I agree with

that. Yeah. And and it is that... That's

why I say acceptance of reality and being

truthful,

feel of feelings. That is very different to,

you know,

jumping in and and saying this is what

we gotta do it. It's about really allowing

the truth of what we're experiencing.

To be witnessed by. I can't see it.

So... Talking about another phase of spirituality is

the phase where people think they have to

hide from everything. I don't watch the news.

I don't watch Tv. It's all evil. It's

all dark. I don't, I have to tune

this off and turn this off. I think

if that's your preference it's fine. I don't

watch much Tv myself, but

I don't think we should have to run

if you're really connected to source, sources and

all things.

Sources and the stuff that we don't like.

So

like you're saying, we we can't get out

and run from it and pretend like it

doesn't exist, Experience it, but try to experience

it from a higher perspective. So I haven't

visited a concentration camp.

You know, my

intention would be to visit it through the

high perspective of source as much as possible.

And when I feel myself dipping into the

judgment, which I'm sure those those places are

sort of telling you a version that won't

you to know how horrible it was. They

want you to experience that for a reason

to try to experience it from a higher

perspective

instead of just going into... Oh, this is

terrible. It was awful. And now I see

that happening over here, and we've gotta go

push against that and fight it. I do

think that that energy feeds it. And so

how do we shift? That's what this... That's

what source is saying is how do we

shift that energy? We're so

much awakening into our own ability to create

and we're getting it for ourselves independently,

But as a people, we've got a long

way to go but who start not d.

Yes we do. Yes. We do. We're slow

learners.

We are. And again, we make it... We

make it slow. We do it to ourselves.

So Lorraine told everybody where they can find

you in your book.

So.

Okay. Books... And multiple books,

evolution and awakened consciousness is the 1 that

is going to challenge

you to think and feel for yourself

I also have a book called breaking free,

breaking free from the chains of silence. That

is written.

From a sole perspective for people that have

been

sexually abused as children. And the idea is

to understand what you're dealing with. So... And

then there's another 1 coming out. That's a

good time for a lot of people. And

on are your books available on? The... Yeah.

On all all,

Amazon all leading things. And and the the

podcast is where I explore...

All different things like you could self and

and look at how do we evolve, How

do we resolve? How do we heal?

And how do we get really honest with

ourselves. So

I wanna thank you for having me as

a guest. I've really enjoyed yet again, another

conversation with Yeah. We... We could talk all

day for sure. Oh, what's the name of

your podcast real fast? Is

spiritual explorer. The right nominal spiritual explorer. Yeah

rain Nylon. Am I saying right? Yeah. Yeah.

You are saying perfectly.

I never asked you that. And it says

rain on the screen, but not. Yeah. So

thank you so much for being on. Thank

you for talking to the stream. It's always

fun to be able to channel for somebody

that that that has some really deep good

questions, and then you absolutely did.

And thank you all for listening. And if

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