USDN Presents: To Me My X-Men

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So.

Let's talk about this X-Men 97.

X-Men, of course,

was created by Stan Lee and

Jack Kirby way back in the day.

But this X-Men 97 was the

brainchild of Bo DeMayo.

And sadly,

he was released by Disney slash Marvel.

And however,

we do know season two has

already been greenlit.

And it's going to still be

his vision for what X-Men

will be until season three.

And it will change because

it's already been green

lighted for season three as well.

So my only thing is,

is without him being the main writer now,

how much of it is going to change?

And that's going to tell.

Season two is going to tell

whether or not they can

keep this gold mine because

the writing for this season was bonkers.

I mean, this shit was crazy.

And that's 100% in a good way.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I'm sharing the stream here.

Appreciate it.

Shameless promo.

We'll take all the shameless

promos we can get around here.

I know I know what I'm doing.

Yeah.

And thank you guys again for having me.

It's interesting, man.

I'll echo what Gibbs said for sure.

But it's fascinating in the

fact that this comes back.

It's not necessarily a reboot.

It's the.

It's the it's it's the next in line.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Continuation, resurrection,

whatever you want to call it.

And I said to my friend, I mean,

I'm sure you guys are

texting your buddies, too.

And we have this group chat with the boys.

I just I'm like, why is this so good?

And they were literally

texting me back because

they didn't you know what

with anything like they

didn't mess with anything.

You know,

they picked up where they left off.

If it ain't broke, kind of a thing.

And yep.

Yeah.

That's the formula right there.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

And that's what worries

coming into season three

and even season two.

How much are they going to be like,

that's got too much of the bow in it.

We don't want to mess with that.

I'll say they didn't detract

from what came on before in

the old 90s show.

But they did take steps to

correct and fix some things.

And I'm sure we're going to

talk about that.

But yeah,

some of the things that they did to

Fix kind of what was messed up.

Some of the only things that

was messed up about the old show.

Well, they made Cyclops not a bitch.

How about that?

We'll say it.

That's the biggest part.

The old cartoon did such a

disservice to Cyclops.

And, you know,

I know she's not everybody's favorite,

but Jubilee as well.

Jubilee is Jubilee, man.

She's not quite coming to her powers yet.

And I don't think we really

ever seen her in the comic

book really come into her powers either.

Oh, yeah, we did.

Let me caveat this with I'm

not a big fan of X-Men comic books.

I've read some story arts and some stuff,

but never to the point

where I see where Jubilee

finally stepped into her

powers like that.

The first biggest thing that

we had in the comics was

when her and Wolverine,

after they escaped out of

the Australian Outback and

they were hiding out in Madripoor,

the Mandarin got a hold of

her and she basically blew

the whole top section of

his big tower hideout, the handheld.

She blew that all up.

like and you know her her

detonations are not just

plasmoid fireworks they

detonate on a um cellular

microscope or nuclear level

and as as she was supposed

to get stronger with it

they were supposed she can

detonate with the nuclear

bomb at her most powerful

Yeah, the thing about Jubilee,

just piggybacking on what you said,

kind of, yeah,

kind of the same as what we saw,

like not too much evolution,

no pun intended,

evolution of the character there.

But I think...

I would want to have seen

more of her with and you

mentioned it like Wolverine,

like in the comics, like and you see lit,

like very minimal scenes

with that and stuff like that.

And I like I just want more

of that selfishly, I feel.

And again, getting another season.

You know what?

At this point in our lives,

we waited 30 years for for it's been 97.

So we could be a little

selfish when it comes to

how we feel about it.

Oh, I think I see Calvin.

There you go.

He's the man.

Love that guy.

I think also, as far as Cyclops,

like you guys said,

another thing I texted the boys, I'm like,

why is Cyclops so awesome

all of a sudden?

I respect him.

He's killing it.

His powers are leveling up.

The pilot, or not the pilot,

because I brought it back,

but the first or second episode,

he's using the beam to skydive,

essentially.

Dude,

he was skating and murking dudes at

the same time,

using nothing but his beams.

And his decision-making and stuff, too.

And even when he gets

emotional and frustrated, he's like,

I get it.

Where before it was kind of like, come on,

Cyclops, or punch him, Wolverine,

or something like that.

And now you're like,

maybe it's because we're older.

I don't know.

I get it now,

but they did a great job with Cyclops.

I mean, Wolverine, when we were children,

was everything.

I don't want to say he was

pushed and forced onto us,

but he was pushed and

forced onto us to kind of

be our favorite X-Men

because everything had Wolverine on it.

At least when he walked into

the comic book shop,

it was like Wolverine, Wolverine,

Wolverine everywhere.

That's my office.

There's Wolverine.

There's literally Wolverine

stuff everywhere, but that's, that's my,

I love them all, but Wolfie's my guy.

I mean, mine's all star Wars and spawn.

So spawn.

Okay.

Spawn.

When I found spawn was the

year that Todd met Farland put it.

He basically bought image to

be able to make spawn from.

And then, you know,

cause he went through Malibu comets.

That was like the very first

spawn that ever came out, which was,

If you got a copy of that, congratulations,

you're sitting on a couple of grand.

But from his first action figures to now,

I think, I mean, we're on issue 335,

I think, of Spawn.

So that tells you something, you know,

right there.

You know, by the way, Image has expanded,

bought Skybound Productions.

And now they got Transformers and G.I.

Joe.

And the list just goes on

and on and on and on.

So mad props to them.

But let's hop into episodes

one through five,

because I decided we would

kind of break it up in the middle.

Like we'll do one through

five and then six through ten.

And, you know,

starting with Cyclops here in episode one,

and we get the infamous line, to me,

my X-Men from Professor X,

which I think all of us

deep down inside were like, man,

if he says that,

we're all going to be like

that meme where we're all

like... And we got that,

and we were all... Oh!

And that was the same with

all the cameos we got, you know,

with this.

So it was a lot of a fan service.

And I'm not mad about it.

I will take fan service all day.

Yes.

Yes.

Go ahead.

No, please, Gibbs, by all means.

No, the first episode,

and especially that line, you know,

it was kind of the passing of the torch,

the acknowledgement that, you know,

he was the leader, you know,

after Charles, you know.

And, of course, we know what happens,

you know,

in the very next episode or two.

But it's one of those things

where he takes control and

he's leading from the front, you know.

And even when Wolverine's barking at him,

he's not sitting up there

just taking and going, oh, okay,

whatever.

You know, he's kind of, all right.

Fall in line.

Y'all are my X-Men now.

Yeah, it starts off hot out of the gate,

man.

Maybe that's another reason

why it's so good.

And I'm sure we'll get into it.

But it started strong with a

lot of classic X-Men story

arcs that he originally didn't touch on.

And to the point,

even with some of the later episodes,

people were kind of like, hey,

I see where this is going.

They're going to do this

infamous scene with Wolverine.

I think that's going to happen.

And it happens.

And the way they did it, like you said,

you perfectly said it.

That's the thing, you know,

and I think that's the brilliance of it.

Obviously, first thing that comes to mind,

the Madeline, the Jean Grey,

even even as far as the

nuances in the the the living intro,

as they called it,

that changes where she had

the ponytail and she didn't

have the ponytail in the

intro or Nightcrawler Gambit.

Obviously, we'll get into that.

That's a perfect Easter egg, though,

the way they rotate it as

as stuff happened with the intro.

i was like dude this is

perfect I'm like what what

what could be better than a

live-in intro the only

other thing that I can

think of that does intros

like that is uh is anime

anime does that they have

the multiple intros and the

multiple outros like I know

a little like chainsaw man

was big on that and they did it like

They would do intros and

outros that looked like

famous movie scenes.

So unless you were really paying attention,

you never really picked up on it.

Okay.

I'm going to plug a TV series,

and it's an anime, I guess.

It's on Netflix.

It does exactly this,

and I was noting that today.

I actually was going between...

the the 13th episode and the

first episode and going

okay this intro has changed

multiple times and that's

delicious in dungeon they

do the same thing love that

which is fabulous

Love that.

And possibly Game of Thrones.

I know Game of Thrones kind

of had like the very long intro.

I don't know if like the map

changed a little bit.

Oh, it did.

It did.

And I'm taking that from

Calvin who in the chat just

said it was episode one through four.

Welcome to Westeros.

Let us set the table.

Episode five, Redwood.

He knocked it out of the park.

Yeah, exactly.

I didn't think about that

until he seen that.

I was like, well, goddamn, that's right.

That is exactly what happened.

Let's set the players.

And now.

Yeah.

So episodes.

One through five.

And I like the fact that they.

Out of the gate was like.

Go.

And it never stopped go.

Except for episode four.

Which is the Motendo.

Life death part one.

We really didn't need that.

Jubilee.

Like solo thing that they did.

But I'm happy.

That they did it because it

did put a little bit more

spotlight on Jubilee,

who doesn't really quite

get the quite the love that

she deserves sometimes.

And I think that that's

exactly what they were trying to do.

And, you know,

they they were they were

needing a set up because

that that episode made her and Sunspot,

which.

He came in on episode one.

They had to save him from

the Friends of Humanity

type deal and all that stuff.

But they kind of did that so

that you can kind of see

them two drifting together.

Not drifting, but coming together.

Having a shared moment, if you will.

You said that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That nailed it right there.

Yeah.

I think just piggybacking on what you said,

Gibbs, it was kind of like, so like,

remember every Saturday,

like you want a new X-Men

and we've seen all of them.

And maybe it was like, like,

I still think I haven't seen some of the,

like the final episodes.

I got to go back on Disney

plus because every week it

was night of the Sentinels part one,

every single week.

And I'm like, why are they doing this?

I love this show,

but I don't want to watch

tonight at the Sentinels

part one anymore.

Frame for what he is.

is I'm sitting here looking

back now and me and my

brother watched that

episode probably every

saturday for a month

straight it felt like right

it's not just me okay no no

you're absolutely right

it's like it was night of

the sentinels last week and

you're not even playing

part two like they used to

say that that was the most

watched episode of the

cartoon well because it's

the one that was always yeah

Yeah.

Right.

And I was waiting for new ones,

but I think in all seriousness,

like this kind of remind me

when this episode came on, like, yeah,

it wasn't my favorite one

out of all of them,

but it was a nice departure.

Like, obviously like you said, Gibbs,

like the,

it wasn't just a subplot in this one.

It was, you know,

upfront Jubilee and sunspot.

Like we had to kind of get a

little bit more connection here.

You had the video game,

silliness of it it was very

different than all the all

the very heavy stuff that

we were dealing with out of

the gate so it just

reminded me of like a

saturday morning and like

oh what's happening and oh

this is this is the mojo

episode um and it was you

know there's nothing wrong

with getting some mojo in

your life no no and we got

spiral too you know mojo's

right hand you know right

six hand you know

Yeah.

And so one of the things

about that episode too was, you know,

we got a little bit of the mojo verse,

which sets up for next season two,

potentially with Dazzler

and maybe Longshot.

That would be nice.

Yeah.

So y'all want to address a rumor?

Are we going to get Dazzler, Taylor Swift,

and Deadpool Wolverine?

I think we do.

They were talking about that

and I saw something else

that my arch nemesis Tim

posted in one of the other

nerd groups was that it

might not be the Dazzler.

It might be another one.

And I have to look for it

real quick and see which one it was.

But it might be an older

type of setting for a

movie or tv series or

something but okay it would

be perfect for dazzler so

the current dazzler that's

appearing in the comic

books is based off taylor

swift really yeah like you

look at the features and

everything they use taylor

swift as the uh the model for it

Whoa.

Interesting.

I I'm I don't want to know too much.

I'm infamously a spoiler phobe infamously.

I just want to sit back,

take it in and have a natural react.

I don't have expectations.

That being said,

this is going to be my

movie of the summer.

We might rent the theater,

do the whole thing.

Wolvey's my guy.

I just watched Deadpool 1 and 2 again.

Ryan Reynolds is brilliant.

I'm watching the doc where

he bought the soccer team,

and I'm enjoying that as well.

Welcome to Retsum was good.

I'm only through the first season.

Only through the first season.

We'll see what happens.

But yeah, you as Dan Black.

Absolutely.

I will sign off on that all day.

I think he was made for that.

Oh gosh.

I think it's going to be similar.

If there's a Taylor Swift

cameo or whatever,

I think it's gonna be

similar to like how Brad

Pitt was kind of just

popped up in Deadpool two,

where he was like the invisible guy.

And then you just saw him randomly.

Like, Oh, you know, he did that for free,

right?

Yeah.

Like he didn't get paid for that.

Yeah.

Epic.

Brilliant.

He was on,

he was on set for maybe 10 minutes.

and uh they did the scene

and he was gone like

they're like because he

owed a favor to the

director and that was the

favor brilliant and then

taylor swift is good

friends with ryan and his wife

That's what I'm saying.

I think we are going to get

some type of cameo from T-Swift.

Look at this.

If she cameos,

if it's just a cameo drop as Dazzler,

and maybe we get her later

as the X-Men franchise,

the staggering amount of...

It doesn't matter whether

or not it's a good script

or any of that stuff.

The amount of money...

that will come in and pour in.

Billions.

Billions on, like,

maybe a billion on opening night.

Who knows?

These opening weekend,

this will be ridiculous.

Oh, without a doubt.

The Swifties will be out in force.

Yeah.

And not to mention all the

Kansas City Chiefs fans.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If that works out, who knows?

It will work.

It will work.

um I love all of that and

it'll fit I'm I'm wondering

how uh yeah I'm I'm I'm

excited for that future and

that rumor to pan out as

great I am too I want to

put the stamp on that one

so bad and I'm I'm looking

forward to uh you know

wolverine uh deadpool and

wolverine um everybody

knows wolverine's not one of my favorites

Because of the old TV

cartoon and all that stuff.

Well, they put all the focus on him.

They did.

And then they changed the

Wolverine and the X-Men and

all this other bull crap.

Fair enough.

But I am very much so

looking forward to him and

Deadpool together.

That's going to be...

They're saying that it's going to...

This is Deadpool and the

X-Men's entrance into the

MCU in some way.

I'm waiting to see how that pans out.

It's going to be interesting.

I'm here for it.

I'm going to post a theory

as we get to episodes 6 through 10.

Let's finish up 1 through 5

because we are way off.

I make no apologies for it.

I make no apologies for it.

One thing that we kind of glossed over was,

well,

we're kind of free-flowing this one

through five.

This whole thing is going to

be a whole free flow, man.

I didn't want to be like, okay,

episode one, guys.

I didn't want to do that.

I wanted it to be a

conversation between three dudes.

in our passion and love for

X-Men 97 and us eating a bowl of cereal,

watching X-Men dude,

that's what I wanted out of this episode.

And that's why I did it the way I did.

And I sent y'all spare sparse notes, man.

I just sent y'all the bare minimum.

Hey, here's, here's what we're looking at.

Let's just, let's just spit it.

Let's just drop a rhyme.

And episode two,

we had a big cameo with the

executioner who in the comic books,

he had a,

There was a huge storyline

with the executioner, of course.

Storm pays the bill for that

one with losing their powers.

And then that starts that whole arc.

I think it was a huge missed

opportunity for her to go, you know,

Mohawk Storm and bring in the Morlocks.

Yeah.

That would have, yeah.

And the opportunity was there, too,

because the Morlats were on Genosha.

They were on Genosha.

Yeah, they were kind of in the background.

And it was because it was like his topics.

They they were a big part of like,

you know,

20 years ago or whenever it was.

So they they kept them relevant.

But again, more in the background.

First of all,

Leach never things never work

out for Leach in any in the movies.

And then there's not a

timeline where Leach lives

to be an adult.

We're going to talk about

that when we hit six through ten.

Yeah.

Or actually, Episode 5, I think.

Episode 5.

Okay.

It's heavy.

We'll talk about that.

I like that black.

If we don't get Deadpool in front of me.

You know who, in the comic book,

he's not Spider-Man when it

comes to Deadpool.

It's Uncle Spidey, who calls his daughter.

That is true.

And Peter is like the most humble...

like uncle ever like the

interactions between

deadpool his daughter and

spider-man are like like

the most like family

oriented stuff considering

we're talking about

deadpool well this is this

is them trying to make

deadpool more user-friendly

for the masses deadpool is

uh he's not user-friendly he's

I always said he wasn't a hero,

but I like the aspect of...

The Deadpool movies were

the only X-Men-esque Sony

movies that I enjoyed at all.

All the other ones can

straight up... Pound sand.

Let's put it nicely.

But seeing...

Having that interaction,

and of course it was with

Colossus trying to make him

a better person.

But now, you know,

him teamed up with Wolverine.

Both of them are just two

bad attitudes waiting to happen.

Seeing him team up with Spider-Man,

and we don't know what the

future of Spider-Man and

MCU looks like right now.

I think they're going to

bring back Tom Holland for one more.

I'm not sure.

He's on top for one more at least.

I'm not sure.

And if they go the route

that I think that they're going to go,

then the Deadpool

Spider-Man interaction we

see may not happen.

But, you know, I think that, you know,

this is Gibbs only,

but I think that they're

going to bring in Miles Morales.

I wouldn't be mad about that.

But we wouldn't see the

Deadpool Spider-Man that we

would want to see.

I don't expect the MCU to

give me anything I want anyway.

Whoever's going to play

Wolverine in the MCU,

we know it's not going to be Hugh Jackman,

but that interaction

between him and Spider-Man should happen.

We'll see how that falls out.

Most definitely.

But, yeah, where were we?

I'm sorry.

No,

we do rabbit holes very well over here.

Let's just roll.

Because, I mean,

we know Magneto stood trial at the UN.

Storm lost her powers.

She met back up with Forge,

who took her on a journey

to figure herself out.

I think that they should

have if they would have cut

out Jubilee's episode and

just made a whole episode

or two with Storm because

they gave her what five to

ten minutes each on the

back half of two episodes

and yeah I mean because

during that time frame she

actually she lived a lot of

life up until the point

where she got her powers back

In the comics, they went years.

Oh, wow.

Years.

She spent a lot of time with the Morlots.

Yep.

Yep.

And, I mean,

that was one of the things that, you know,

we failed to see that

character build arc for her.

But I will say this.

Everything bad and

strife-wise that started

happening to them happened after,

in this series, this season,

happened after Storm lost

the powers and left.

Fair enough.

Storm is the glue.

We all know that.

You actually see how

integral Storm was to

keeping the X-Men together.

Yeah.

I like that they dove into

her character a little bit more.

But it's like you said,

it kind of happened kind of quick.

And I understand it's an animated series.

It was a little bit more of a subplot.

I'm not never a huge fan of

the Vision Quest kind of stuff.

And that's...

She was treated as a side quest.

Yeah, yeah.

That's not my favorite, but I love Storm.

I loved her interactions with Jean.

I love that later they talk

about gold team and blue team.

They get into that a little bit,

just like a little nod.

I mean, Storm's amazing.

Storm's amazing, and I want to see.

She's always been amazing.

I want to see more for her this season.

I want more from Storm, I guess,

selfishly.

And that's okay.

We can be selfish, dude.

At our age and growing up on this,

we've earned that shit, dude.

We can be selfish.

Kelvin nailed it, dude.

She left for five minutes

and the world went to shit.

That's right.

I mean, literally, we lost, like,

why was it 10 million mutants on Genosha?

Oh, my God.

I think that's a roundabout number.

I'm pretty sure it's more than that.

And like in the comic series,

it was a lot more than they

made it out to be in the show.

So – I'm just waiting for

when they do the callback

to – and just to make us all go, ah.

But just because they did it

with the – what am I going to wear?

Black leather or whatever,

which is the callback.

Yeah.

I'm waiting for the what

happens to so-and-so when

they – what happens to a

toad when he gets struck by

– or like whatever that line was.

Oh my god.

You know what happens to a

toad when he gets struck by lightning?

No.

Yeah, same thing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm just waiting for a

callback or a joke to that one.

Toad's in Deadpool and Wolverine,

so we may get it there.

Oh, please no.

And you know he would do

something like that too, right?

Oh, he's doing it.

You know what?

Let's plug that cheesy line.

That's exactly what's going to happen.

Let's plug this.

You'll probably say something like,

shut up, Toad.

They'll strike you with

lightning or some shit.

And you know what?

I wouldn't be mad.

Oh, I would.

God, let them die.

So while we're on episode five,

we had our first loss of

the X-Men in episode five.

We still skipping a lot of

real estate to hit five

because at the end of episode two,

The real Jean Grey comes

back and then we have a

sort of inferno arc,

a mini inferno arc that

goes on with them revealing that,

you know,

the Jean Grey that had Nathan

was actually Madeline Pryor.

Pryor, yeah.

You know, or she chose the name Madeline,

you know, at the end.

She chose it at the end, yeah.

And they went through all of that stuff.

And, I mean, it was...

They did a quick conversion

to her to the Goblin Queen, which,

like I said, in the comics,

it was a huge arc.

And we crammed it in.

And, I mean, it worked.

It did work.

Kind of.

Because at the end,

her and Jean kind of like,

They did hug it out.

She leaves and Gene's like, it's okay,

Scott.

We'll work it out.

Also,

Wolverine had a little moment with

one of the Genes, too.

The real Gene.

This solidifies Wolverine is

a sucker punk.

And I said it,

and I don't care who takes offense.

Wolverine is a sucker punk

because that whole deal.

And Jean ain't shit either.

Oh, she knew what she was doing.

She knew.

She knows.

She's just dragging that man along.

She catches Scott, you know,

doing the whole mental thing.

And it's like, oh, my God,

that was our thing.

Well, it was their thing, too,

because he thought that she was you.

Yeah.

Like,

you're literally that replica of each

other.

Which is fair, yeah.

Which is fair,

but then she goes along and

then does the whole thing

with Wolverine and then

jumps in Scott's ass?

Come on, triflings.

So that was 100% the real G. That, like,

no question.

That was 100% real G. That was 100% her.

That's the real G. That

scandalous-ass woman.

You're not wrong.

You're not wrong, Gibbs.

You're not wrong, bro.

Wolverine is a simp sucker.

Oh.

And you know what?

He forever said in the comic

book that Gene was his only

one true love forever.

And those are his words.

He was always written that way.

Entanglement.

We have ourselves an entanglement.

If we may quote Jada.

There we go.

Dean Gray is Jada.

Oh, boy.

Oh, boy.

Wow.

Wow.

Ladies and gentlemen,

you heard it here first.

That's right.

I said it.

Wow.

Gibbs dropping the hard truth today.

You're right about that.

Wolverine did say in the

comics that Jean Grey was

his one true love.

But he also had four others.

He's had plenty.

Now, loves,

there's a difference than just hitting.

Because he knocked off about all the women,

the grown women.

All of them.

In the X-Men.

He knocked off most of them.

So, okay, then let's put it like this.

What was your favorite, like,

of all the hookups of Wolverine,

what was your favorite one that, like,

he had a relationship with

within the series, like the comic books?

Because he had many.

Who?

Who?

Okay, yeah, okay.

I didn't like,

did they do Storm in the

comic books or was that just that one?

No, that's a whole arc in the comic book.

It's one of those things where it's like,

I didn't like it because, you know,

I was never a fan of like

the alternate universes and

stuff like that.

No,

that was main MCU or main Marvel

storyline.

Him and Storm had a thing.

For quite a while.

In the comics.

It wasn't just a thing.

I don't think it was a thing thing.

I think that they hooked up several times,

you know, several times.

And, you know.

I think it could have been

bigger than what it was.

But, you know, that was that.

Because during the 80s,

they showed that they hooked up.

And then later on,

they kind of had a relationship.

It was more, you know,

more of the continuation

from what it was in the 80s.

And that was before she

became Miss T'Challa.

Yes.

Yeah, right.

So because I remember the

way I remember going back

to the old episode when it

was like probably one of

the last newer episodes that I saw.

I'm like, oh,

it's not Night of the Sentinels.

But so I just remember

they're having the picnic

or whatever the beginning

episode and then it's like

the time travel thing.

And then, you know,

they do that whole arc and

then they're like, oh,

to make the world the way it was,

we have to like undo everything.

And our love has to end kind of a thing.

And then it goes back to

them having the picnic again.

And it's one of those things

like at first I hated it because I'm like,

no, no, Wolverine loves Jean.

And like, that's not that's not how it is.

Like, that's not organic.

And like, the more I think about it, like.

They're kind of perfect for each other.

Is that just me?

No, you're nailing it.

I ship or whatever the kids say.

You're shipping, man.

I think one of my favorite

ones from a comic book

storyline perspective was

Lady Deathstrike.

I say that because she was

one of my favorite

characters from the comic book.

And then she tried to kill him.

They didn't really have a

love relationship though, did they?

Briefly, if I remember correctly,

before the Weaponettes project.

Because it was her dad that

did the whole integration of his,

you know, his bones and adamantium.

Yep.

I'd have to, like,

I'd literally have to go back to, like,

probably 93 or 94 to find...

You guys remember these cards?

I have them.

Do you know which one?

I want to say X-Men Series 2.

I remember having these in school.

So many things just fell out

of the binder just now.

You guys remember these ones?

Oh, yes.

I literally have them

sitting over here behind me

on my other bookshelf

behind me that you can't

see because it's so dark in here.

I think I'm missing just Rogue.

I think I have all of it.

It's probably somewhere around here.

It probably just fell out.

Yeah, dude,

they all literally just fell out,

which is fine.

But and they had like the 30

years special car.

I'm trying to see if you

probably have about two

grand sitting in that binder,

to be fair to you.

You know what?

Cards are weird, though.

I feel like it says they are

and then they're not.

No, they I'm telling you right now.

You you pull them up on the

on eBay and see what they're selling for.

I guarantee you're sitting

on probably about two grand.

Yeah.

And one of them is probably

just in one card.

all right I'll take I'll

take x-men gold x-men blue

card yeah yeah the puzzle

piece has been sorry I i

just had it here and this

is where a lot of you know

my comic knowledge and

x-men knowledge came from

you'd read the back of the

card get the stats get the

little tidbit hell yeah

dude that's what I like to

see man and you got the

famous sticker on the front

Yeah, you know the deal.

My guy, Travis Barker.

Yeah, that's my dude.

Love me some Travis.

Dude, I will, on long road trips,

I will put on his drum solo

albums and just hammer away, dude.

Oh,

him and DJ AM had some good stuff with

Coachella.

That's a good driving music.

Love it, love it, bro.

You know the deal.

Yeah, I think he was with Typhoid Mary,

too.

Oh.

What?

rings a bell I mean we got

so off topic but so

everybody knows deadpool

was with death death is the

reason why thanos was going

after all the infinity

stones but deadpool was

never mentioned one time in

in the infinity war saga

but that was the whole

point it's because he was

getting the infinity stone

so he could be with death

They changed that.

They changed it in the MCU.

Right.

Yeah.

In the end of the first Avengers,

the one guy at the end

where they had the cameo of

Thanos and the guy said,

but that will be courting death.

And he turns around and he

does this number.

And that was supposedly the nod,

but they changed it.

And then they came up with, you know,

the nihilist, well,

we're going to make the

universe more efficient and

destroy half the life.

That way, you know, there is that.

That also made sense, by the way.

All of that happened before

Deadpool was ever a

character in the comics.

Okay.

Deadpool wasn't,

the thing with Deadpool and

death didn't happen until late 90s,

early to mid 2000 type deal.

It was not a thing when he

was really courting death and, you know,

hardcore when he first went after death.

Well, I think she was courting him.

No, death didn't care.

How that whole thing came about is he,

you know, he defended God.

It is.

It is.

But the whole thing was,

is he got the notion of

these cosmic beings.

Of course, him being, you know,

eternal and all that stuff.

And he fell in love with death.

Death didn't pay him any attention.

We're talking about Thanos, right?

You were talking about Thanos.

Okay, yeah.

So death didn't pay him any attention.

And Thanos said,

I'll show you my love for you.

And I'll destroy, you know,

I'll give you all these lives.

And that's why he started

going after that.

You're right.

At first, he didn't know she was death.

And then he said, okay,

I'm going to give you all these lives.

And when he figured that out, she didn't,

she, even if you look at the comic books,

the whole time he's doing that,

she's standing there in the background.

And most of the time she didn't even,

you know,

she might throw a glance at him

or doing that stuff.

But until it happened,

she was totally unmoved by

any of that stuff.

But they loved each other as

much as she could love and

all this stuff.

Later, they came out with, after he died,

came back,

you had the Infinity Watch and

all this other stuff.

Deadpool was ramping up and

all that stuff.

They were like, okay,

what's a way to fix him to do this,

to do that?

Let's time in with this.

That's when they got that he

fall in love with death thing,

which I never liked that.

I think he should have stuck with Siren.

If you don't know who Siren is,

Siren is Banshee's daughter.

I love that.

Very underrated, by the way.

yes that kind of quirky

relationship that they had

that was yeah but the whole

death thing and then you

know of course Thanos makes

it so that he can't die he

truly can't die so they can

never be together yeah

petty as shit I mean if you

look back on like all the

comic books and like villains and stuff

It was all just pettiness.

Like, that's all it was.

A lot of it is.

A lot of it is.

And, you know,

that's like a lot of the

stuff that was happening in, you know,

X-Men 97.

Yes, we went off the rails,

which is typical here.

It's what we do,

but we get back on topic right now.

Sinister injected Nathan with the virus.

That was petty as shit.

He didn't need to do that.

Of course,

they send him with Bishop into the future,

but that's the capital of...

Okay, y'all might have stopped me,

but I'm going to fuck y'all up, you know,

just because I can.

Dude, Sinister, that dude,

if there was ever a problem,

you could probably trace it

back some way or another to Sinister.

Yeah.

My sister had a great point.

So she gets props on this one.

Like when it started,

Bishop was there and in the

credits starting out.

But, you know,

Beast is fixing his time band.

So she's like, you already know.

You already know Bishop's

going to leave and Cable's

going to check in.

She's like, you're right.

She called that.

She's like, they're fixing his bracelet.

You know, Bishop's going to.

And then Bishop come back right at the end,

like at the very end.

At the very end.

Yeah.

Like episode 10.

He's like, hey, dude.

Yeah, but she's like,

you know Bishop's gone, right?

I'm like, really?

She's like, yeah, he's fixed his bracelet.

You know, now we got baby Nathan.

Like, Bishop's gone.

Like, he's going away.

But I like,

like we talked about that living intro.

I like that, like,

we got more Nightcrawler

and we're getting to see, like, again,

it goes back to the cards.

You can never have enough Nightcrawler.

Oh, God.

And perfectly executed.

All the screen time that he

got was absolutely awesome.

I'm like, he deserved that.

More Nightcrawler, please.

Absolutely.

His dad is in the Deadpool trailer.

Asriel?

Yep.

Well, he's not just his dad.

It's also Rogue's dad, too.

Is this... Are we going back

to Wolverine Origins?

Who is Will.i.am's character?

Wait, wait.

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

It's not Rogue's dad.

Who's the other one?

Mystique.

Mystique.

It's not Mystique's dad.

It was Mystique.

Apparently,

Mystique and Azrael got

together and Nightcrawler is their son.

That's right.

He has a sister as well, I thought.

There is a sister.

I think her name is Sin or

something like that.

It's something.

Sin is something to him.

What were you saying, Rob?

Oh, no,

I think this is kind of a little

bit of a deep cut.

So, yeah, you hit it on the head.

You said the character was Azrael?

Azrael, yeah.

So who was,

I think it was Will.i.am's

character in Origins.

Was that the name of the character?

No,

he was playing... This is the movie

universe.

Not Maverick, but...

Oh, God, what was his name?

Exactly.

Yeah, it wasn't the best.

It wasn't the best movie.

But the video game was solid.

That Wolverine video game, Xbox 360,

whatever it was, it was awesome.

It was solid.

And there was a cut scene

where it showed that him

and Mystique had gotten together,

something like that.

And I was like, oh,

they didn't touch on this in the movie.

I can't remember what it was.

Look it up online.

I'm sure it's online.

There was like a little tie-in.

Magic.

I am going to... Matt

Crowell's sister is not magic.

Magic is Colossus' sister.

Okay.

Yeah.

Magic is Colossus' sister.

All right.

We've lost a few carts off

our train going down the railway here,

which is common.

We do that.

We deep dive stuff.

We don't intend to deep dive.

And we have a passion for

something it shows.

And by damn it,

we're passionate about our

X-Men and our storylines

and who's related to who in Marvel.

I got it.

Will.i.am's character was Keystro.

His real name's John Rafe.

And, yeah.

Look at you, man.

I'm impressed, Gibbs.

A quick Google search?

No, I looked up the Wolverine origins.

Oh, okay.

I'm still impressed.

I'm still impressed.

so are we,

are we good on one through five?

So we know at,

I think it was midway through,

we found out Mr. Sinister was the,

the going to be one of the big bads in,

it's been 97.

He's kind of like the

mastermind manipulating

everything behind the scenes.

Um,

Was episode 5 the heavy one?

Episode 5 is Genosha.

Let's hit episode 5.

Let's hit that.

Let's talk about episode 5.

They're preparing to join the UN.

The team goes there.

Of course,

we get Rogue being scandalous as well.

Going to be shacking back up with Magneto.

Going rogue.

Let's not.

No, no, no.

No, no, no.

We're not going to do that rogue.

Even when it was shown

earlier and Remy got it

wrong because Remy didn't ask questions.

He just, just like most of us do,

we see something and we're like, oh,

what the fuck?

And then, you know, Remy being who he is,

he didn't say anything and

it never changed anything.

But

He was like... Punching air, yeah.

Punching and kicking air.

With tears in your eyes.

Absolutely.

Because that's what I was doing.

But she had told Magneto in

that first episode when we

realized that they had a

thing in the past that she was like,

it's never going to happen again, sugar.

And even when they went to Genosha,

she wasn't being scandalous.

He came to her and he was like,

if I'm going to be this guy here,

I need you and this and this.

And Remy was all in his

feelings and basically was like, yeah,

whatever.

You know, and so she was like, OK,

we all know he's a hothead.

I'll do this and all this stuff.

And it was one of those

things where she was.

He was kind of pushed into

it by Magneto setting it up.

And the optics of it all and

Remy being a total dick, which, you know,

was kind of warranted, but not.

Well, I mean, being jealous.

That was him, though.

That's on par for him.

So Rogue,

you're not going to put Rogue in

the same bag as Jada Summers.

You bring up some good points.

I think that's a very fair assessment,

man.

Gambit and Rogue,

one of the best love stories,

if you want to call it that, of all time.

Forbidden Fruit, you know, like...

he, he, they couldn't touch,

they couldn't embrace,

they couldn't touch, you know?

Um, and, and that was, he didn't give up,

you know what I mean?

And I mean that in, in not in a creepy way,

like in an, in an awesome way.

He loved her no matter why he loved her,

man, you know, and that was his queen.

Um, and, and even with this, you know,

you could see how it affected him.

And, um,

it's almost one of those

things I'm almost going to

contradict myself here but

like the way he went out

and first of all no one

cared about magneto at all

that's a whole nother

conversation um but the way

the way he went out um man

it was perfect you know um

phantom not phantom menace

uh the the first remake the

the jj abrams star wars uh

force awakens we don't talk about it

No.

Can I use an example?

No, you can't.

No, go ahead.

I don't want to.

I don't want to.

No, no, no, no.

You would never know.

They they spoiler alert.

If you haven't seen it many years ago,

if you haven't seen it, turn, you know,

mute it for a second.

They killed Han Solo.

They killed Han Solo.

wow I didn't that's it's a

big move it's a big move

it's a big move to come in

there and do that I didn't

hate it hate it I hated it

when it happened but I'm

like for the arc and stuff

like that and yeah I know

it's not on par with the

others it makes sense right

and the line it was his kid

like all right we went

there you know and who

knows harrison ford

probably wanted to end the

character oh he did he did

after the first one

exactly but I was like you

come in here you take this

franchise and you you have

the you know what to like

you're gonna pull this move

and we saw the other movies

played out and it was just

like whoa this was similar

that made me think of that

is like if he's gonna go

out him going out like a

boss like this his final

words rogue holding him

saying I can't feel you sugar like

Yeah, man, it was perfect.

And like, I know we got that little tease,

but first of all, yes,

I want Gambit back.

He's might be my second favorite.

Like, Oh, just we want, we want him back.

And yeah, it's the, it's the comps.

They always come back.

Rarely do they not.

They always come back.

And he should.

And that's the right way to go.

We'll save it for the end.

I almost don't, in terms of the way,

just in terms of this

episode and this scene,

if he had to go out, it was perfect.

It was perfect,

and I almost don't want them to touch it.

Like, I want Gambit back.

I know I'm contradicting

myself a little bit, but poetry, man.

It was poetry.

That was a way that, and I like that,

Black says she was for the streets.

Here's the thing though.

She loved him throughout the comic books.

She really did.

They were essentially,

they were the couple despite everything.

There was a,

there was a time where after

the age of apocalypse happened, um,

Because they thought the world was dying.

They saw the stuff happening

and they kissed.

Right as the age of apocalypse happened,

when Legion killed

Professor X and everything

was crystallized, he kissed her.

When it came back,

he ended up in a coma and all this stuff.

She went with the dude named

Joseph for a long time.

Yeah, it does.

Balls, big balls.

But she went with a guy

named Joseph for a long time.

And Joseph was the Magneto

from the Age of Apocalypse era, you know,

continuity.

Because she could touch him

and he made it to where they could touch.

so there is that that was

going on there but um

there's a couple things

that I uh I don't know who

captain kick-ass is but

yeah you got it yep the the

thing with uh this whole

episode was um millions

died there they had all those cameos

of mutants that was there

and my man leech who is

from leech's creation it

was uh as a morlock it was

two of them him and arty if

they would have had arty

maddox there and arty would

have died I I'm I would

have y'all would have had a

tirade from me that would

have lasted because arty is

one of the most

misfortunate uh warlocks

that there ever was

Now,

and him and Leach were best friends

and all this stuff.

But Leach just wanting, you know,

Magneto to save them.

And, you know, he told him, you know,

you'll never have that again.

And that scene, you know, when Rob,

when you said nobody cared

when Magneto died,

that scene where he did

that and he looked and he

had him going in that fear

in Leach's eyes at everything.

The way they made this cartoon, you know,

they got that feeling and emotion.

I mean, God dang.

It hits you in the feels, man.

And Leech has always been

one of the most innocent of characters.

Now, of course,

how any of their powers

work while Leech was around

is a fucking mystery

because Leech is a power drainer.

He's literally a leech.

We're going to skip over

that shit because the emotional depth.

I forget the other guys that

was right there with

Magneto and Leach when they got killed,

but they didn't matter.

It was all about Magneto and Leach.

Then Remy.

Goddamn.

If you're going to go out,

that's the way you go out.

Go big and go home.

He went big and went home.

Hey.

Hey, he went out like a boss.

Yes, he did.

Yes, he did.

All right.

I know Rob has to step away from us at 930,

if I'm not mistaken,

to prepare for his next show.

No worries.

930, I'll tag out respectfully,

but I'm having a ball, guys.

I just want to make sure

we're respecting your time

because I know you're going

to be hopping on and giving

us king and queen of the

ring predictions after this.

Switching to wrestling,

Kelvin will be there.

Wrestling.

Are you a wrestling guy too, Gibbs, or no?

I am.

Okay, who's your guy or girl?

Who's my guy of all time?

Yeah.

Dusty Rhodes.

There we go.

Son of a plumber.

There we go.

Georgia boy.

Yeah, okay.

That bionic elbow.

Yeah,

the Samoan SWAT team and the Road

Warriors.

Yeah, okay.

My buddy Mike does a Dusty Rhodes cosplay.

You may have seen some of

the videos with Cody.

I'm going to have him do a

shout out for you, Gibbs.

I got you.

That video they just

released with Macho Man and

them getting kicked out of

the house is cinematic gold.

Oh, wait.

I got to see this.

What is this?

It's one they just recently did.

It's Macho Man and

Dusty?

Dusty.

Like,

their wives kick them out of the house,

and then they, like, move in together.

Amazing.

And it's cinematic gold, man.

It's like a five-minute clip

or something like that,

but it's... Machoverse, is it?

Machoverse and Mike Ramondi?

Okay.

Check them out.

Oh, yeah, they're brilliant.

Mike Ramondi, like, the voice, man.

The only person who sounds

better than him as Dusty is Dusty.

Yeah.

I'll be sure to check this one out.

Oh yeah.

We're getting the shout out for sure.

Yeah.

So they're shameless plugs, man.

I love those guys.

And then seeing total what time last night,

man, that was fucking awesome, dude.

Oh, my French.

That was awesome.

Seeing him on last night.

Oh, awesome.

He'll, he'll be thrilled that his,

his ego will inflate,

but he sent me a friend

request cause I inflated his ego.

Good.

Well, there you go.

We talk about networking.

Yup.

Yup.

Yeah.

There you go.

So, yeah, we ready for six through ten?

Let's hit six through ten.

Perfect.

This is where it gets real good.

We're getting into the... So

we had a fucking crazy

mid-season finale where we lost Remy.

And now everything's going

to fall apart to be rebuilt again.

Rogue goes rogue in the next episode.

And...

Storm gets her powers back.

Yep.

Let's discuss this rogue

going rogue before we... First,

let's hit up the episode six.

Yeah, that's where I'm at.

With Charles.

Okay, yeah.

Oh, true.

He's up with Leandra.

Leandra.

And...

Shi'ar Empire and you know

he shows us walking around

with new legs with his

bionic suit on you got new

legs in the ghetto of the

Milky Way as they put it

that line right there is

that is forever how we will

I will refer to the Milky

Way universe is the ghetto

the ghetto of the Milky Way

Dude,

I want a sign that just says the

ghetto of the Milky Way.

And, of course,

you see Death Bird kicking

ass with Gladiator.

And that was pretty awesome.

And, you know, all of that.

And Charles says, oh, my God,

I got to go home.

Yeah, it's an interesting character arc.

So remind me, because again,

it was always Night of the Sentinel.

Remind me what happened

exactly to Professor X

where we thought he was gone.

He died.

How?

Both of our tracks.

Yeah.

Okay.

But he's obviously somewhere else.

Yeah.

They took him to their home planet.

Leandra and them saved him.

And it seemed like he died.

So...

I'm psychoanalyzing here,

so be very honest with me if I'm wrong.

Do we feel that Professor X,

Charles Xavier,

lost sight of his mission statement,

lost sight of his home, what's going on?

We lost Gambit in the meantime.

We see him come around.

Was he blinded by love?

Was he blinded by this new life,

the ability to walk,

things of that nature?

Am I reading this wrong?

Was that kind of the internal conflict?

Because I don't know if

that's true to the character.

when it kind of was in the

comic books too because

this actually happened in

the comic books where he

He went off with Londra and

was her consort, if you will,

in the Shiite Empire.

And they were having all

sorts of shit there.

And, you know,

he was always conflicted

because he wanted to go back.

You know,

he was always checking on his X-Men.

He was that.

So he that confliction is

always there for him.

But in this one,

like when he did the whole

Professor X thing,

and then he got a glimpse of, oh, my God,

my X-Men are, you know, they're here.

He feels that, I would say,

kind of like survivor's remorse.

You know, oh, my God,

would this have happened if

I was still there type deal?

You know, oh, my God, this is my fault.

I was not there.

You know, and he's like, okay,

I got to go back.

Well said, man.

This is why you're here, man.

Thank you.

You explained that to me.

Cause I'm like, I'm like, it's almost like,

you know, his mission statement, you know,

he's, he gives, gives, gives, he gives,

you know, mutants a home and, you know,

teaches them to control

their powers and tries to

do right by everybody.

And now he's kind of doing his own thing.

No, he has some selfishness in him too,

but, and he's allowed to,

and he's allowed to,

you know what I mean?

I think that's just the human part of him.

Yes, exactly.

Exactly.

All right.

Well, well said.

Yeah.

But, uh,

Like we said,

Forge's Storm gets her powers back.

They mess up the... They get

rid of the adversary.

And they do all that stuff.

Can we just take a second to

appreciate Forge and him

getting some screen time?

Yeah.

Forge has always been an

awesome character.

He really has.

And...

In the comic book,

he never got as much love

as he deserved to do the

things that he did behind the scenes.

Yeah.

Please.

He's been a part of a couple

X-Men teams there over the years.

There was that,

but he's mainly worked in the background.

He's kind of like the guy in the chair,

you know, like the Spider-Man movies.

You know what I mean?

Wow.

Leave me alone, my X-Men.

Oh, God.

Oh, Calvin's in rare form tonight.

I don't know.

We're going to get a good

show out of him later.

I don't know.

He's going to be wilding on

the show later.

I'm telling you.

I'm here for it.

But, yeah, that whole thing was there.

So...

As they go back,

and Storm kind of helps heal Ford.

How the hell was that ever

in her power set, healing people?

I agree.

That's why I didn't like the

whole spirit quest or side journey.

When it gets all kind of interpretive,

that's where you lose me.

So I'm with you on that.

I struggled with a lot of

those little things.

This is one of those episodes where

It didn't make the sense

that you wanted it to make sense,

but we got classic rogue in

the classic outfit,

so we couldn't be mad.

We got a lot of classic outfits.

Yeah.

Except for the black leather.

It made sense with the

spiritual aspect when

you're talking about Forge

because in the comics,

that was part of the cool

thing with Forge is his

mutant ability is if he thinks it,

he can make it.

He's not 100% sure how the fuck it works,

but if he thinks it, he can make it.

He also has a shaman aspect

um in the comics in which

it's small and then grows

larger as he delves deeper

into it so that kind of

jobs with what they had

there and helping her you

know defeat the adversary

which I think um I think

was a little analogy for uh

what's his name the uh

Which McCulloch King,

Chaos King or whatever his name was.

OK, yeah, it's Chaos King.

Yeah,

I think that that was kind of a

little because he used to

mess with her a lot.

But yeah, other than that,

I was I was cool with it.

It was just like,

where did she get the

ability to heal from?

but I like it.

I like them two together.

I've always liked Storm and her together.

Of course,

not as much as I like Storm and

Black Panther together, but... Dude,

that's actually... I think

that arc in the comic book

just come to a close, if I'm not mistaken,

the current run of it.

No,

you're talking about Storm and Black

Panther?

Yeah, yeah.

That's been over for years.

Well, no,

it was a rerun of it with the new

covers and everything.

Same story, just brought

pages and like inks and that

kind of stuff they revived

it and brought it back and

of course they tweak it a

little bit and here and

there to make the writing

more today but it was still

a good run that run sucked

the way that it ended the

way that they ended that

was a writer who came in

and was like I don't like

it get rid of it how did it

end I'm curious

There was a time in the 2000s,

I think it was.

Or it might have been late 90s,

early 2000s where... It was

around about 2010.

If they didn't like it,

they just trashed it.

They would write it off.

It was during the time when

a lot of stuff was

happening in Wakanda and he

went there and it was one

of the X-Men versus

Avengers type deal and

He was upset because he

thought that she was in

collusion with something

and she didn't tell him something.

And she was like, I just found out.

He goes, well,

are you still with the X-Men?

She goes, these are my, these are,

you know, yeah.

We're not this.

We're trying to hit.

He said, well, yeah, it's already done.

You're no longer my wife.

You didn't even have to be there.

I did it back in Wakanda.

Yep.

And that was it.

Is that true to the

character or is that a little out of, no,

no,

it's not true to him or any of that

stuff.

And again,

that was a writer that came in and I,

And they were just like, no,

we're not liking this.

I won't go into more of what

I think about that.

But basically it was, yeah,

we're done with this and

we're going to end it in

the most dumb and stupid way possible.

There was a lot of comic

books in the late 90s into

the 2000s that they were

just like writers were

quitting because they were

tired of Marvel shit and being underpaid.

And they were just like, we're done.

We quit.

And they brought in new writers.

And new writers were like,

we hate this shit.

And started changing everything.

Now here we are in 2024.

And Marvel pays their writers better.

They get long-term deals for longer times.

And the writing's improved greatly.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Okay, I was off an episode.

It was episode six where she... Oh, no.

We were talking about episode six.

We were talking about

episode six with... Yeah,

Storm getting her powers

back and Professor X

getting some strange in the

stars in the ghetto Milky Way.

Yeah.

And then episode seven is

where Rogue goes full... Yep.

When she merts Captain America and

She doesn't murk them.

She beats them.

They fight.

And then she throws the shield.

That was petty.

She didn't just throw that shield.

She chunked that shit and

dared him to do something.

Petty.

Exactly.

That was petty.

She was like, well, don't stand in my way.

And he goes, well.

And she goes.

And then flies off.

Pretty much.

That was a great episode and

some great cameos, too,

because we got Captain

America and we got what's his name?

Red Hulk.

Thunderbolt, too.

Yeah.

Thunderbolt Ross.

So, yeah.

And of course, they go back to it all.

Everything goes back to Madripoor.

It always does there.

In anything related to X-Men,

it always seems to tie back into there.

I don't know if that's done on purpose.

It's there or Genosha.

One of the two.

Everything ties back to those two places.

What do you guys think of

Rogue going rogue?

Do you think that's true?

The character?

Do you think it's the extreme, you know,

stress like, you know, when people grieve,

you know, they go through stuff, man.

Did you guys think that was

a fitting character arc?

You know,

the juxtaposition being Captain America,

the essential Boy Scout, you know,

and she kind of...

is cool with him.

And then like you said,

it was kind of petty.

Like she throws, go get it, you know,

go find it kind of a thing.

Um,

did you guys think that was true to the

character?

I thought it was an

interesting character arc for her.

Um, and she's gotta be frustrated,

you know,

did you guys think that was well done?

Yes.

Yeah.

And, and she, Rogue is her name.

Well, uh,

I like that black says she yeeted

that shield.

Uh,

True to the character to the

point of in the comic books,

she was going rogue because

she was having problems

dealing with the Carol

Danvers powers that she

stole as Marvel's power.

And she was having problems.

But she was causing all sorts of havoc.

I mean, she went basically rogue.

And that's when Storm was

trying to save her and got

shot and lost her powers in the comics.

and it kind of you know she

kind of snapped out of it

and all this stuff but she

in the comics she had a

history of uh you know

going ape and going yeah

she she would go and eat

somebody's lunch yeah yeah

by the way carol denver has

never really recovered from rogue she did

she didn't but it was like

much much later oh it was

decades decades later

decades she spent in a coma

and angel uh angel helped

heal her um after he became

arch archangel archangel

and he held he healed her

and then um the latin cree

the cree blood that was in

her from captain marvell uh

kickstarted and all that stuff.

And then she lost that power,

became binary.

And then Captain Marvel, as we know her.

Did you guys see that?

I don't want to say meme.

It was like that graphic.

I think it's legit.

It was like the animated

cell of Rogue with her hand

on the head or whatever of,

I think Carol Danvers,

correct me if I'm wrong.

And then they're like,

she's keeping her in the

coma because you don't see

the glove animated on.

But you can kind of see the

bracelet of the glove.

You know what I'm saying?

And they're like, oh, no, no, no.

They just forgot to paint

the yellow on the glove.

And it's like this whole thing.

I'll have to find it and

show it to you guys.

But it's like this whole thing.

It's like, no, no, no.

She's not wearing the glove.

She's keeping her in this state.

And that's like another...

She's refreshing her power.

Yeah, well, that too.

Topping off, topping off.

And they're like,

Carol smiles when she does it.

It's all these fantasy.

It's very interesting, but who knows?

I might have to look at that.

Yeah, I would have to look.

I'm not too familiar with it, but damn,

now I want to see it.

Because if she's been going back to top up,

then that's like the ultimate villain.

That's like some villain shit right there.

Let me go top up real quick.

Yeah.

Swing it to the gas station.

We find out that Trask was

taken out to help with

Operation Zero Tolerance

and all that stuff.

They track him down and

Cable comes back and saves the day.

And she tried to kill him.

They're like, wait, we do that now?

And Wolverine's like, oh, fuck yeah.

I'll get back, baby.

Oh, man.

That's Wolverine.

Not to get too sidetracked, real quick.

Did you guys read the Civil War run,

the comic book ones?

Yeah.

That series.

So Wolverine had a run in that, right?

Yeah.

He had his own storyline.

And Wolverine's... I'm not denoting this,

but...

Wolverine they're all the

heroes are all infighting

and you know it's getting

political and like spider

spoiler alert spider-man

like on mass and reveals

his identity and that whole

thing and the registration

all that stuff Wolverine

actually goes after the guy

that like caused this

explode was a nitro or

whatever his name was

explosion and I think he

kills him he does like

Wolverine is just like you

guys do this I'm gonna go

take care of this guy

Wolverine had no problems

killing like yeah he would yeah

If something needed to be killed...

Send Wolverine, he'd kill it.

Yeah, and they tow that line, I think,

in the animated, which is, I mean,

he's beating up robots most of the time,

but which is right, and again,

we talked about Wolverine,

but they kept him very not

on the sidelines, but very subplot,

very lines,

and I thought it was perfect

how they did Wolverine here,

and he's my favorite.

Well, in the X-Men,

he kind of he calmed down,

and he's much older by the

time he joins the actual X-Men.

But

You talking about in the comics?

Well, yeah.

And in the animated series.

He's older at that point.

Yeah.

Yeah, he... Yeah, no.

Wolverine, he did some killing.

I mean,

the dude's a few hundred years old.

I think by the time he joins the X-Men,

something like that.

He's like 165.

Yeah.

He's old as dirt.

I just thought it was interesting,

just because everyone else was fighting.

And I get it.

That's the whole main plot.

But his whole arc was

tracking this guy down and

finding the villain.

And no one else was doing that.

Yeah.

Nobody cared about that anymore.

But Wolverine, I think because Neymarita,

I think, died in that.

And something else happened.

And Wolverine took that personal.

and he was like yep this

dude nah he's gotta die you

know and let's just say it

as it is he took a lot of

stuff personal and if he

just didn't like you anyway

he would probably kill you

so when he when in the

comics when he first came

on that was part of what

you know his thing he you

know he he was always

bouncing and he was always

fighting and doing all that

stuff and that was uh

Well,

you see the consequences of that in

this season.

So I will say this.

So we just had Marvel Echo, right?

Right.

Well,

Echo didn't just go to Oklahoma City

right away.

She took a long detour.

And on that detour, she met Wolverine.

Yep.

And Wolverine and her

traveled together for quite a while.

And a lot of the stuff that

Echo learned was from Wolverine.

Yeah.

So he helped mold her into

what she became after Fisk.

True, true.

So a little side story there.

Didn't know that.

A little history lesson.

It's actually in the comic,

but they don't talk about a

lot of that stuff too much

from the comic books.

Yeah, it's not in the TV series,

but it's in the comics.

Yep.

Can I, can I fast forward, right?

Just cause I'm going to cut out and about.

Yeah, absolutely.

No, I'm not trying to speak.

Do your thing.

I just wanted to say something,

something that crossed my mind.

So in the, in the,

in the finale or the last episode, um,

so they all kind of had to

do the time shift, right?

I'm knowing,

I'm knowing jumping ahead here,

but I wanted to get this in.

So like some people go to what?

Ancient Egypt.

Yep.

Uh, some people go, uh, the future.

Um, so my guy,

he was in like a hospital

bed or he was like in the bed.

Where did Wolverine go?

That's a great question.

And we're not sure they did

that on purpose.

Is he in the bed still?

You want to hear my theory now?

I want to hear all you guys got.

I'm like, where's my guy?

What comes out in July?

Deadpool and Wolverine.

What are they doing in it?

Time jumping.

Okay,

there's a connection here between the

animated and the... I'm here for it.

I mean, he was still in the bed,

but nobody knows where he went.

What if Wolverine in

Deadpool and Wolverine is that Wolverine?

Because the costume is that costume.

He was wearing the orange and brown,

though.

I think he was wearing those

because they all had the old suits,

I think, for that last battle.

I like where you're going.

I like where you're going with this.

I like that, but... Is that what we get?

I don't know,

but that's kind of the way it

ended and everybody got

separated and they're all

in different times.

I was like,

what if Deadpool's time jumping

and getting them?

What if that's the opening to the movie?

It's just him...

appearing somewhere.

I'm not going to shoot it

full of holes because I like it,

but I'll let you have that one.

Bang, bang.

That would be next level and awesome.

I could be completely fucking off on this,

but as that ended and we've

been getting all the

previews for Deadpool and Wolverine,

I'm like,

but what if that's Deadpool

jumping and saving their asses?

And that's how we get to X-Men in the MCU.

But hey, again...

This is just the chairman's

like wild theory.

I'm going to let you have it.

I'm just saying.

But if that's it, if that's what happens,

you fucking heard it here first.

I was just going to say, man,

like I owe you a coke or something.

I'm telling you,

the next time I'm on the podcast,

and if that's what's

happening in Deadpool and Wolverine,

my head's going to be like

this fucking big,

and I'm going to have a

shit-eating grin that just

doesn't leave my face.

Oh, my gosh.

I'm going to let you have it.

You're right.

It's not MCU canon.

But they didn't say it wasn't either.

Here's why it is.

Okay.

I'm just saying.

They're obviously going to

call back to the X-Men

origins and the old X-Men

movies and stuff like that,

but what if they... I mean,

they will anyway,

but what if they do what you said first,

man?

Coming out of that, it's fresh,

because Wolverine's done.

Hugh Jackman was done.

We know we're not getting

season two of X-Men 97,

at least until the

fall-winter time frame.

Yeah.

Because I know it's done.

It's done.

The only thing they're doing

is publishing animation right now.

We shall see.

That's my one theory.

I know Rob's going to be leaving us soon.

When he brought that up, I was like, hey,

let me go ahead and give

you my fan theory.

There you go.

Like I said,

I'm going to let that one ride.

I'm not going to shoot it full of holes.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

I've been wrong many of times.

It's so awesome for discussion.

Precisely.

That's why I wanted to throw

that one out there for

everybody to think about.

You got to put that on Twitter,

I feel like, so it comes back to you.

I mean,

maybe don't so people can

experience it if it happens.

I don't know.

I'm a spoiler guy, but it's brilliant.

I put it like this right here.

This will get uploaded to Spotify.

That way,

if it does come out and that's

what happens,

I haven't seen nobody else

say that theory yet.

I have it documented right

now that I was the one to call it.

Type that shit out on the USDN.

I will type that out later.

I will get that out into the

rumor that you started.

Hey, and that's what it's all about.

Like I see so many people

put shit out there and it's

quite literally shit.

I used to shovel that when I

was a kid on the farm, all right?

But at least mine makes some damn sense.

Hey, not on BCB+.

Championship journalism, man.

I put out great articles on BCB.

I'm just saying.

There we go.

My new article will be out

next week as soon as King

and Queen of the Ring comes

to a conclusion.

Shout out to Mike Mueller,

who just wrote an excellent

article on the history of

the King and Queen of the Ring.

Just saying.

There we go.

Love it.

I love it.

I love it.

I love it.

So, Rob,

I know you're going to be leaving us.

I'm sorry.

Plug your stuff, man.

I want you to plug

everything you got before you hop off.

And as soon as we're done here,

I'm actually hopping on and

watching y'all.

So appreciate it.

Yeah,

I'm going to finish up some laundry

real quick.

Check on the dog set up for

we got our king and queen of the ring.

predictions panel or on the,

the Bob culture podcast, YouTube channel,

uh, over on BCP plus on my Facebook page,

we'll be streaming as well.

Finish this, uh,

finish this episode of USDN first.

Cause I feel bad.

I gotta, I gotta tag out of this one.

It's been a great discussion.

I'm so glad we talked about

that last episode.

I'm sorry to fast forward.

It's totally worth it.

It was great.

it was great um gib so nice

to meet you man I'll add

you on facebook because I

want to send you guys the

um yeah please do hey just

share it on the usdn and

we'll all talk about it

okay and it might have been

hopefully it's not just

some fan thing but

hopefully it's even if it

is a fan thing we'll talk

about it we love that shit

I love it but an honor

being here guys that will

definitely do it again uh

jeffrey we got to have you

on our show down the line

on a two-way street like I always say

Guys, check us out.

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Podcast for years,

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Mr. Ernie Hudson, man,

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Hey, has that one come out yet?

What, Ernie Hudson?

Yeah.

Oh, it's very good.

That's the one that Bill

mentioned last night, right?

Yeah, I don't even think there's video.

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I mean, it was a pod.

I mean,

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So thank you guys so much.

Hey, Rob, appreciate you, man.

We'll see you over there on

the other side here in a little bit.

You guys rock.

You guys are awesome.

You guys are a wealth of

knowledge and I am not worthy.

So thank you guys.

I appreciate it.

Appreciate you, Rob.

Peace, peace.

Thank you.

Peace.

Ladies and gentlemen,

that was Mr. Rob Williams.

And I owe a lot to him.

I'm going to...

Just put it out there right now.

I know he just left,

but he gave me a chance to

write about something that

I'm passionate about.

And it's freaking awesome

that I get to write about wrestling.

And yeah, it's wrestling, W-R-A-S-S-L-I-N.

So big props to him.

Big props for him coming on

tonight and fitting us into

his busy schedule.

I've been trying to get him

on for literally months and

months and months.

And I was like, hey,

I know he's a big fan of Vetsman.

Let me just shoot the shot

and see if he's got time.

And it just so happened that he had time.

So big props to him for

taking time out of his very,

very busy day.

to come on and talk with us

and share his passion of

the X-Men as well.

So, Rob, let's jump back in, man.

All right.

Tag, tag.

All right, so we're on Boulevard Tower Ask,

and Rogue just murking this motherfucker.

She's like, I'm killing this dude.

She literally just said,

Yeah,

Cable kind of disarms him and all

that stuff to stop that from happening.

And he kind of explains what's going on,

you know, because he's from the future,

so he has that future knowledge going on.

And he tells him that the

real adversary is Bastion.

Yep.

Which we start going into...

tolerance is extinction from here.

Which is actually,

they do a fantastic

friggin' job of fleshing

out who Bastion is.

Because he's not really a mutant.

He is a mutant.

I mean, he is, but the way they

present him is like he

doesn't believe that.

He believes he's something above that.

He's the next evolution in

the timeline of what mutants could be.

Could be, right?

He sees him as an alpha

mutant and I think he even says later on,

too bad, suckers.

We're going to get rid of

all the mutants and if

humans can't get down with it,

then it'll just be me and

my prime sentinels.

Mm hmm.

You know,

and he they kind of explained it

that he affects them people.

Like Sinister was using the

techno organic virus to

infect mutants and all that stuff.

Which, of course, you know, cable is,

you know, he's a techno.

Yeah.

Well,

he would have been a mutant no matter

what.

But he he is the byproduct of.

And we know that Bishop and

him got separated in the time jump.

Right.

They talk about that.

And of course, you know, he ends up,

you know, with the Ascani and Bishop,

you know, does what he does.

So let's talk about that real quick,

because that is a cameo

that we get when they do this,

when the time jump happens

and they all get separated.

So Mother Ascani is Rachel Summers.

Right.

Uh, in the,

in this cartoon for estimate 97,

they said it was Rachel Summers.

I didn't see that.

They said that it was Rachel Summers.

I know that, uh, I haven't seen that yet.

Um, and it could be,

I know that at different

points in her life, she was mother.

Mother is Connie.

Yep.

I know that, um,

Because when they go into the future,

Cyclops and Jean,

that's harrowing the Red

and Slim Avengers from the comic book.

And that Mother Ascani was not Rachel.

It wasn't.

You're absolutely correct.

And as I was doing...

Because this is part of the

stuff I sent you earlier

when I was looking at it.

They specifically said that

this one was Rachel Summers.

And that could just be...

Because anybody can come in and, well,

I pulled it from IMDB, actually,

and then one of the other websites.

And it may have just been like, oh,

by the way,

Mother Isconi was also Rachel Summers,

who, oh, by the way,

is one of Gene and Scott's

children as well.

And that's kind of like the

point I was making on that one.

Because she comes from the future,

and she's an Isconi,

and she goes back to the future,

and that's when she becomes

Mother Isconi.

Um at different times,

so we That'll be

interesting and you know

That'll be it's a lot of

implications implications

for Future stuff if that's

what they roll with it

within the cartoon verse.

We'll call it a cartoon

verse so But I thought that

was cool that because when

the character comes up and

she's walks toward him I'm like

are they intending that to

be who I think they're

intending that to be?

And then when I was reading later on,

after I built my baseline of stuff,

I was like, Oh,

they are saying Rachel

Summers on this one.

And then I checked a few

more and there's a few

other sites that also said

Rachel Summers.

So I don't know if they were

like exactly saying like, Oh no,

that's the Rachel Summers

version of mother Ascani.

So who knows?

We'll see how that plays out.

Hopefully in season two.

Yeah.

That'll be interesting because we'll see,

because that will mean that, you know,

she helped to raise her brother, Nathan.

We'll see about that.

That's very interesting.

But, you know,

with the whole bastion thing,

they kind of they talk

about it several times that, you know,

he has a bone to pick.

with xavier because you know

he was like you you know

you left me behind you you

left me behind you did this

and they were like nah that

was your mama and her

anti-mutant type deal you

know this mother did teach

him to hate mutants and all

that stuff so the whole

time I mean she she knew he

was a mutant but she

pretended that it wasn't a

thing so I mean I don't

In the real world here,

we would call it neglect.

But, you know.

She didn't want him to grow

up with that stigma.

She knew that was going on.

And so in her own.

I mean, Sunspot's mother was the same way.

Protect him.

But yes, you really just fucked him up.

But clearly we got three

episodes of him trying to

destroy everything.

And during this, Charles comes back.

Professor X comes back.

He left the one thing he

could do in space and that's walk.

And one of the loves of his life as well.

Yeah, he did.

And he came back and the

mansion was all jacked up

and they were like, oh, so you are alive.

Yeah,

and you can tell that Scott's going

to be Scott.

He's going to welcome him

back with open arms.

But there were some that were like, oh,

really, motherfucker?

You're back all of a sudden?

Yeah.

And we've seen that happen

with him more than once,

on more than one occasion.

Yeah,

and we find out what has been

happening with Magneto,

that he wasn't killed.

And Sinister has been, you know,

Bastion has been doing the

mind screw on him.

That was some crazy mess at

the end of the episode

where he's shaving him and

talking to him.

I'm like, yo.

That's some put the lotion

on the skin or I guess the

hose again shit right there, man.

I was like, okay.

Nope.

flag on a plane.

That's something.

Dude, that shit was so awkward.

But it worked.

It did.

It really lined who his

character was and how his

head really worked.

And then Magneto came back and said, hey,

you can join me in both

Sunspot and Rogue Do.

You know, they do.

Yep.

And that was also stemming from, uh,

you know, sunspots old mother, you know,

willing to sell him out.

And, uh,

She pushed him under a bus

so fast it wasn't funny.

Oh, my God.

Just go with them.

I'd have burned everybody.

But you know what it did was

it really helped him come

out of his shell and

realize his true potential as well.

So, yeah, it's fucked up,

but he learned that he

could fly and he could burn

you with a thousand suns.

He knew he could fly before that.

He just wasn't using his powers.

He was trying not to because

his family wanted him to hide it.

But not only did they want him to hide it,

but she readily gave him over to,

was going to give him over

to the Friends of Humanity,

not the Friends of Humanity,

the Prime Sentinels.

Prime Sentinels.

Just like, hey, just go with them.

Do this and do this.

And he was like, mother, what?

And she was like, no.

She really shrugged that

shit off like it was nothing.

I'll make another child.

He's not feeling too

inclined with the regular humans.

You know what's funny is

that one of the parents had

to carry the etched gene in

order for him to be born a mutant.

So if they were to have another child

Is a high probability of

that child also being born a mutant?

No.

I believe he does have a

younger sibling in the

comics and no mutant.

Okay.

I mean,

it is... Do they consider it a

recessive gene in the comic?

I can't remember.

Some...

some bloodlines carry it strong.

Like the summer's bloodline

carries it strong.

Others is just,

they can be the start of

that bloodline of the X gene popping up.

That was just it.

They didn't,

they were saying that some

families you could track it and others,

they were just the true X factor.

Um, how, what was that?

That really shitty X-Men ripoff movie.

They gave us magic in it the first time.

Um,

But it had the Native American girl in it.

Are you talking about the... New Mutants?

Yeah, New Mutants.

Yeah.

The Native American girl.

I think hers is because she was chosen.

I think it's how it worked

within their culture.

That chose the person.

Kind of, yeah.

I think it's how it works for them.

Because it was weird the way

they laid it out.

It was a horrible movie.

They did Sunspot dirty.

Well, they did them all dirty.

They did them all dirty.

All of them was dirty.

But, yeah.

So, I mean,

there's different things out there.

But I know within that one culture,

it was like they felt like

you were chosen by whatever

it was to become that person.

That was their way of

explaining the X gene in her tribe.

That was their way of

explaining it because they

didn't have any other way

of explaining it.

That's why it came through.

Going back to 97,

they actually go to Muir Island.

We see them go to Muir Island.

And they're making plans, you know,

to split the team.

You know,

one to go after Magneto and the

others to go after Bastion.

Can we figure out why

Wolverine is always chosen

for gold team and to go

after Magneto in every single timeline?

Well, because they figured that they're

They figured that his

ferocity might help win the

day or any of this stuff.

I mean, it did to some degree,

but he also paid for it

once again with his Animadium skeleton.

Yes.

And it is brutal to watch

every single time.

No matter in comic book form or animated.

It is brutal.

But I got a feeling season

two is going to fit some stuff.

I don't know.

We'll look at season two

when we get toward the end.

We got to see how season two comes out.

Because I got some ideas on

season two as well.

You know what?

And I'm going to say this

just like in the comic books.

Wolverine absolutely deserved it.

Oh, fuck yeah.

Magneto had basically put

his stuff on pause and he

stabs him through.

Now,

whether or not Magneto should have died,

we can get into that.

But all of a sudden, he's like, yeah,

he just tried to kill me.

When he was talking to Professor X,

he was like, he just tried to kill me.

Yeah, and did.

And for him to yank it,

that was the most satisfying moment

shot in this whole deal one

because it was coming if

you were familiar with this

storyline that they were in

the last three episodes you

knew that shit was coming

we just didn't know how

brutally they were going to

show it yeah in the in the

in the tv series yeah and

by damn it is every time to

watch it it's it's unique

experience to see whether

you're reading it

Or you're watching it.

It's.

I know people.

That straight up was upset.

And sad.

And they were like.

Oh my god Wolverine.

Like he said.

It doesn't take away.

The skeleton didn't really

take anything away from him.

He still has the ability to heal.

He's still Wolverine.

Only now he doesn't weigh 400 pounds.

No.

When he ripped out.

When Magneto, even in the comics,

when he ripped out that adamantium,

it fucked up his healing

factor so much that it was

never the same again.

That's how we got old man Logan later, too,

because of this.

Well,

we got old man Logan because he

survived every fucking

thing that was out there.

And I think at the time, at old man Logan,

he was, what, 300, 400?

He was old.

Not quite then because, you know,

some of the X-Men were still around.

But when you sit up there

and you look at it, he... When, you know,

in the comic books, after...

which McCullough pulls out

his adamantium and all this stuff.

He's in a coma.

You know, he's sleeping.

He's doing all this stuff

like it was in the TV series.

But then he kind of

disappears for a while.

You know,

he does this whole thing and his

bone claws come out.

And we're like, oh, my God,

he really does have bone claws.

Yeah, he had them like in his origins.

He had those.

Well, the origins, remember,

the origins came much later.

Comic book origins, my bad.

Let me rephrase what I'm saying.

Comic book origins came

later after that showed him

what bone claws came after

he had his adamantium ripped out.

Okay.

Right.

So, you know, and it just made sense.

But that whole deal,

it leads me to something else.

After, you know, they go up there and they

They basically put down

Magneto and all this stuff.

Xavier kind of goes in there

and he's doing the Vulcan

mind mill to him.

And Wolverine, they're trying to save him.

You know, they stabilize him.

Morph says something to him

as they're all going.

And he kind of fights.

He's like, but he's like,

I know she can't say it for you,

but she can't say it

because she's not here.

And then he turns into Gene and he goes,

I love you too, Morgan.

You know, Logan.

And he's kind of like, any of this stuff.

Dave actually said that that

was kind of more professing

his love for Wolverine, too.

I did see that.

And

Morph wasn't really... Morph

is one of those characters.

He's not very well used

within the comic book world.

The way he should be.

I mean, he is.

But some of the stuff he was

used for was spying.

I think he went years and

years on a mission one time.

Just feeding the X-Men intel

off of something else.

Well,

that was after because when he first

got his start and all that stuff,

you know,

with the age of apocalypse and all that,

when he came back,

he was with the exiles and

going back and forth and doing that.

They didn't kind of know

what to do with him.

So he was that kind of

throwaway guy who was never

fleshed out or any of that stuff.

We kind of get to see during

this whole season,

the first half of the season,

You know, when he's talking about Sinister,

we kind of get to see his

real face and how he really looks,

you know.

But, you know,

there's a thing also that

Morph doesn't ever wear clothes.

He just morphs his body to

look like he's wearing clothes.

I've seen that before.

Yeah.

But there was that.

It's no different from Mystique.

Well,

they say Mystique does it too at times.

You know, Mystique is weird.

Well, yeah.

And I think that that's why

they kind of limited both

Morph in the comics and in, you know,

whatever,

because we already had Mystique.

He basically does the same thing,

except for they show that

he has some of the powers

of the people that he morphs into.

He does have that ability.

Which means he could

potentially be an Omega level mute.

If he was ever done correctly, yeah.

Correct.

He says that and I think

that's going to cause

problems in the future

because all Wolverine is going to see is,

Jean said she loves me.

We'll see how that one

fleshes out in season two

because I got a feeling

that one may come back.

It will.

But you know,

The other half of the team went to Bastion,

and that got disastrous really,

really quick.

It did.

And some of the stuff that

happened in that episode really was like,

what is going on right now?

Why are they doing it this way?

I mean, I could wrap my head around it,

but it was like,

why are they doing it this way, though?

Whoa.

They really wanted to show

the totality of it in a way

to bring back the Phoenix.

That was the last of it, too.

Because that's the only way that they...

fucking helped uh

overpowered bastion and

stopped him was uh jada

gray turned into uh yeah

I'm not calling her jean

gray she's jada gray she's

jada gray from now on but

she became the white

phoenix which was the last

of the phoenix force she

became white phoenix was it

white phoenix or was she

just a regular phoenix okay and um

It might have been White Phoenix.

I could have sworn I heard

some mention of the White

Phoenix because that was

what was left of the

Phoenix Force after it was finally done.

We'll see because she

becomes the Phoenix later on again.

I know.

That's why I'm just like... Yeah,

that's why there was some

stuff that played out in

that episode where I was just like...

this like okay let's just

roll with it and see where

they're going with it well

the phoenix is the you know

their deus ex machina so

that that's how they beat

bastion and they shut him

down and then it becomes

all about you know uh you

know the whole tolerances

is uh extinction thing um

that whole thing plays in.

And after they stopped that, I mean,

they stopped the prime

signals and you see

everybody fighting against

the prime signals.

That's where we have the, you know,

cameos of the black Panther.

And yeah, so let's, let's, we can,

we can hit some cameos real quick.

And so we had silver server, I'm sorry,

silver samurai,

silver samurai standing on the building,

Captain America, Iron Man, Dr. Strange,

Carol Danvers, a.k.a.

Captain Marvel, as a prom sentinel.

There is a character,

like when you watch it back,

or you can just Google

Carol Danvers prom sentinel,

and it will show that there

was a prom sentinel that

has the same headgear that

Carol Danvers wears as Captain Marvel.

Even though she was in a coma at the time.

Hmm.

And they were saying that's

why that was like one where

I was just like, oh, damn, really?

But we had Black Panther, Daredevil,

Cloak and Dagger.

Yes.

Which it was cool to see Cloak and Dagger.

I'm not going to lie.

Spider-Man, of course, was pretty cool.

It was good.

I enjoyed it.

Mega Red,

which was one of my favorite

villains from back in the day.

Right.

Dark Star, Crimson Dynamo, Psylocke.

Cypher, Alpha Flight,

which is a Canadian group.

Oh, yeah.

North Star, Puck, and Aurora.

Yep.

Then you get the Children of Magneto,

Quitsilver, Scarlet Witch, and Polaris.

Yep.

On the boat.

Then Peter Parker, Mary Jane, and Flash.

Yep.

We get Apocalypse and Mother Ascani,

which those were the big, big ones.

and yeah after the the time

jump yep and we're gonna

touch on apocalypse before

we close out for the night

because he's gonna be the

season two front runner I

think as far as a villain

goes right and one of his

uh horsemen of the

apocalypse is remy so I

think that's how they bring gabbit back

Okay.

I know the foreshadowing is there.

It's there.

Hold on.

This is where I contradict

and I'm going to say this.

The foreshadowing is there

for Remy to be death.

Okay.

Remember in the comics,

Wolverine was death before Remy was.

Correct.

And also,

how did Wolverine get his

Adamantium skeleton back?

Apocalypse pulled it out of

himself and put it into him.

He didn't pull it out of himself.

He had the Adamantium there,

and he was going to choose

between Sabretooth and Wolverine,

and he made him fight for it,

and Wolverine won.

Yeah, that's right,

because I misread the story then.

The way they made it sound

is that Apocalypse pulled

it from himself and gave to

him after he defeated Sabretooth.

Is the way they made it out

to be when I was reading

the Easter eggs and

potential stuff for season two.

Okay.

We'll see how that one turns out.

I think it could be either way.

I'd be happy either way.

I could be either way and

Yeah, but.

As all the Prime Sentinels

are going and they turn off the humans,

you know,

the human councils and other world,

they enact the Magneto Protocols,

which was cool.

Yes, that was.

So that's in my Easter eggs

that I have on here, too.

OK.

And that was it was just I'm

glad you brought it up

because I didn't put a lot

of notes to it because like

you mentioned Magneto

Protocols in your mind start swirling.

The fact that Charles Xavier

made the Magneto protocols

with President Kelly just

in case Magneto did what he did.

Yep.

And Asteroid M,

which I love seeing Asteroid M there,

which is kind of like

Magneto's palace in the sky, basically.

Yep.

But I thought it was cool

because it had his power

levels from his trading card, basically.

Then it had his previous

names or names he may go by,

which were the names of the

actors and the voice actors

who have played him,

which was a cool little

Easter egg to toss in there.

Yeah.

And so I was like, man,

that's kind of cool.

And then, you know, seeing, you know,

Magneto has always been one

of those characters where

if you don't fuck with him,

you're not going to have an

issue with him ever.

True.

But the moment you start

pissing on what he cares about,

God save your soul because

he won't do it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's the wrong one to fuck

with when it comes to being a mutant and

We're going to do this.

We're going to do that.

His thing after a while was

why he created both

Asteroidium and Genosha was

you don't fuck with us,

we won't fuck with you.

Let us go.

That didn't seem to happen.

Everything that was going on,

they sent out the missiles and

Apparently,

it didn't work the way that

they wanted it to work.

Yeah, no, they were way off on that one.

Instead of blowing it up, it was like, oh,

this shit is falling to the earth.

And it's so big,

it's going to cause an Ellie event.

And yeah, that's it.

So we got to address an

elephant in the room, too.

Okay.

Yeah.

The blue area of the moon.

I've seen so much bitching

and complaining about this

online and people just not

really understanding.

Maybe I'm using that wrong,

but they're like, well,

how the hell can these

people breathe on the moon?

Well, that's the blue area of the moon.

That is literally the

citadel of the Watcher.

That's an area on the moon

that he created with oxygen on it.

Think of it as like a bubble

over this area.

And it's also where they

fought the Dark Phoenix so

she wouldn't destroy Earth.

Yep.

So, I mean, there's... Yeah,

it makes no sense.

When we were... Physits

don't apply to X-Men in the MCU.

Let's just address that.

There's no such thing as physits.

I had to press the I believe button,

you know.

Exactly.

They had sunspots.

Okay, first, Jubilee flies out into space.

They weren't even on the moon.

They were in space.

She flies out in space and

Sunspot goes and gets her

and then flies her back

down to the Earth.

Without imploding.

I believe.

Dude, that's all you can do.

People put too much focus on it.

I'm like, dude,

it's a cartoon and it's the

fucking X-Men.

What did y'all expect?

Yeah, that was one of those things that,

OK, we're going to suspend realism.

You people want realism.

We're talking about superheroes.

We're talking about shooting

shit out the hands.

It's fine.

When that shit happens

outside my door and I'm

sitting up here going, okay,

and they adhere to our

rules of nature or any of that stuff,

then I'll stop pressing the

I believe button.

Exactly.

And my good friend Ben Affleck says,

we're talking about fictional characters.

Fictional characters.

Dude,

now all I can see is that interview

and him go in.

So, yeah, this – Dude,

that's awesome that you

brought that up because

that was a great interview.

I think he walked off on

that interview too.

He might have.

I got that from Jay and

Silent Bob shirts back.

What?

Uh-oh.

Oh, nothing.

I'm always about to go to

work okay so um uh one of

the things that uh they

they're falling people are

saving each other and scott

was totally about to bite

the bullet and get the rest

of them out of there you know

Wolverine, Magneto, Professor X,

all of them were in the jet.

They were ready to go.

Jada Gray was like, no, you can't.

He says, this is what you were doing.

It's like, well,

we can do this and we can do that.

I was like, okay.

Here we go.

Finally,

they get Magneto to wake up and

shit happens.

Of course,

Jubilee and Sunspot weren't

there because they were

back on Earth watching everything fall.

And I'm like, all right.

What the hell is going on here?

That was like a whole 10 or

15 minutes or whatever it

was of that episode where

you're just like,

This is total chaos,

and I need it to make sense quickly.

And then all of a sudden,

everything made sense quickly.

It's like, oh, okay,

how do we kind of unfuck a

mess that we made?

Well, of course,

it was Xavier trying to get

Magneto to exude dominance

and basically do what

they're supposed to do.

Mm-hmm.

You can stop this.

You can save us.

You can stop all of this.

He reached them.

That was a very Professor X

Magneto thing to do.

I love that.

I love them showing that part of it.

It really cements their

everlasting friendship no

matter what side of yeah

you know good guy bad guy

they're on they always find

a way at some point or

another to get back into

that middle like area where

they call each other

brother yeah also they

weren't at the the watchers

temple on the moon

That was Apocalypse.

Was it Apocalypse?

Yeah,

because you even see Apocalypse's

face out there where Rogue

and Bastion were fighting.

Okay.

She knocked him the fuck out, though.

Dude,

that was the most realistic cartoon

punch I can think of in recent memory.

They were messing each other up.

That was a slugfest,

and I was there for it.

Oh, dude, yeah.

I rewound and watched that twice.

I ain't going to bullshit.

I watched it twice.

It was a good,

it was a great fight and I loved it.

I love seeing, you know,

sunspot come through.

I love seeing how all of it, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Everything comes together

and Magneto wakes up and

they are transported.

I'm not exactly sure what

exactly happened.

It was like somebody reached

in and messed with it.

You know what I'm saying?

There's no way that they

could just end up that far

separated in that many

timelines without there

being some type of outside interference.

Well, in the comics,

this kind of echoes the

thing that happened with

the rebirth of the X-Men.

Which wasn't a great run,

if I remember correctly.

Oh my God, that was a fucking awesome run.

Was it?

Okay.

I'm thinking of a different run then.

Because remember...

They went into the Sage Perilous.

Okay.

Yep.

And that's when everyone

thought that they were dead.

And they actually went into that.

They had the base in the

Australian Outback Gateway was there.

And that's when we first get Jubilee.

Storm kind of dies.

Nanny and the Orphan Maker dies.

They put her body in the

Sage Perilous and she goes

back to the kid,

but that's when you get

Remy because the next time we see her,

however her and Remy find each other,

they're being Batman and Robin type deal.

I'm going to have to go back

and read that one.

I have the Marvel app.

I'm going to have to go back

and read those because I

think it was a 10-issue run or a 12-issue

oh it was longer than that

they were done yeah because

that's when uh Scott that's

when they were doing those

like 20 and 30 issue like

runs of them yeah and it um

remember they um Scott and

them the original uh X-Men were the uh

extinguishers or some shit

like that where they were

supposedly hunting mutants,

but what they were really

doing was helping them out.

That's where we get Skids, Boom Boom,

and Firehands, Rusty, and all those guys.

I'm going to go back and

read that one then.

I remember pieces of it called...

Back in the day,

I didn't get to go to the

comic book shop that often

to like in order to like

put together a complete run.

So I end up with like issue

here and then like issued like seven.

I just never like was never

in the cards for me to collect like that.

That's why I have the Marvel

out so I can go back and read that stuff.

And that's one of the runs I

need to go back and read then.

Yeah,

that's the one with the iconic one of

Wolverine with the X tilted

to the side and he's slayed

out because the marauders got to him.

That was sick with it.

Yeah, I'm sold.

I got to go back and read that one.

That's the whole reason I have the app,

too,

is to go back and read those types of

things.

Yeah.

That's the only thing that I

can think of them trying to do.

And, of course,

them throwing them into the different,

you know,

some of them went into the past.

Cyclops and Jada Gray went to the future.

And, of course,

we don't know where

Wolverine is right now.

Yep.

I'm telling you, we'll see.

We'll see if my...

My fan theory comes true.

But let's dive into some

more Easter eggs before we

close out for the night, man.

All right, let's roll.

At the end of episode 10,

we have Forge looking at

his new list of X-Men as

he's getting ready to reassemble a team.

That's a throwback to X-Men 141,

which started at the Days

of Future Past movie.

Yeah.

which was pretty cool to see.

And it also proved the

existence of shadow cat, AKA kitty pride.

Yep.

I used to have that comic.

I owned that comic.

That's a key worth about two

grand right now.

I think.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Days of future past was one

of the greatest, uh,

X-Men story arcs that they ever did.

It's, it's up there.

It's in the top five.

It's in my top five X-Men story arcs.

Um,

but uh that was that scene

that that picture you know

that scene right there in

x-men 97 that was great and

it did have they had you

know deceased presumed dead

this this um I did look

back and I can't remember

now what it said about uh jubilee

and I can't remember off the

top of my head but you know

we know jubilee's still

alive but whether or not

she's messing with him

she's with him or any of

that stuff but who else did

you see on that uh that's

that that shot uh colossus

which I was cool to see

because I know he comes in

after that um and I do

appreciate that it was

forge that was doing this

well because forge is

you know,

technically he's one of the last

X-Men because he joined the team.

Yeah.

Colossus is the only one

that I can really like

stands out to me that like

caught my attention.

But Colossus didn't really

come after that.

Colossus was.

Well,

I think he was already part of the team,

but he wasn't with the team at the time.

Right.

And in days of future.

Right.

Right.

Angel was there?

Yep.

And Dazzler was on that as well.

That's what I'm saying.

We'll see.

We'll see.

I'm excited for what they

have planned in the future.

I'll put it like that.

So at the season finale of X-Men 97,

we get Apocalypse in modern day Geonosia.

As he's digging through the rubble,

he finds Gambit's card.

And it ends with him using

that there was so much pain

and so much death there.

Which means the apocalypse

that we see when they go

back in time survives and

becomes the apocalypse of today.

Correct.

Which was really cool to see, by the way.

I like the way that they...

I'm a fan of Apocalypse, by the way.

He's one of those endearing

villains that you love to

hate and hate to love.

You know what I'm saying?

Given that Apocalypse is

the... Everyone thinks that

Professor X created the

X-Men to combat Magneto.

But it was proven that it

was really because of the

coming of Apocalypse.

I remember reading some of

those earlier episodes of

Apocalypse and just being

in awe of what he did.

He was the man.

Dude, without a doubt.

He was the man.

Apocalypse is the Apocalypse.

So I know we've already

talked about this next one I had written.

It ties back into Apocalypse

and how Gambit attempted to

infiltrate Apocalypse's

organization by

volunteering to become one

of the horsemen.

And he was actually

brainwashed to actually

serve in Apocalypse.

And it looks like season two

of X-Men 97 is going to

lean into that is what they're saying.

Yeah.

But it would be the

resurrected Gambit because

we're getting Gambit back

without a doubt.

Yeah,

I think it's safe to say we're going

to get Gambit back.

But I think it'll be more

the case of when Wolverine became Death.

They weren't, you know,

it was like he had lost who he was,

you know.

He was brainwashed.

He didn't know who he was or

any of that stuff.

It wasn't that he went there

to infiltrate or any of that stuff.

And I think we'll get that with Gambit.

He's called back to life by Apocalypse.

And Apocalypse has basically said, okay,

you're going to leave my

horsemen and this has happened.

It's kind of fuzzy on who he was.

But yeah.

Oh, that reminds me.

Bro, we skipped over a huge cameo.

At Gambit's funeral, his wife, Belladonna,

and his people, and his ex-wife,

because he was part of the Thieves Guild,

they were part of the Assassin Guild,

and all that stuff.

And they were there.

That was huge.

I love that.

I want to go back and watch

that episode again, like his funeral,

because I know there was

some more in there that I

probably overlooked.

Yeah.

Belladonna is one of those ones.

It's just not a name you hear.

Modern day.

We can go back to Golden Era.

She pops up quite a bit.

Yeah.

That was it.

Yeah.

Also seeing a young Nathan

Dayspring in the future was kind of cool.

So I'm looking forward to season two.

I want it here.

I want it now.

I want it.

So I know they have said

that we're getting it

sooner than we think we're

going to get it.

And I think we're going to

get it probably in the

October time frame when

they would normally do new episodes.

episodes of stuff.

Anyway,

that's when we would get normally

get new seasons of stuff.

So I'm excited.

I know the voicing is done.

I know they're polishing the

animation and doing that kind of stuff.

I know there's both the Mayo storyline,

right?

Unless they go back and

decide to change stuff.

I'm hoping that's not the case.

We know that season three

has already been green lit

and we're getting new writers for it.

So it's going to be interesting to see who,

uh,

Kevin fate brings in to be

the writer because I know

like he was hesitant to

reboot this and he had like, you know,

Hey,

we have to have these people and we

have to have this song or

else this shit ain't happening.

And Disney said, okay, cool.

And they went out and got them.

Yeah.

So it would be interesting

to see with him being a

hardcore X-Men guy, Marvel, you know,

like,

who he will bring in for that.

And I'm hoping they reach

out to comic book writers for it and go,

Hey guys, what do y'all think?

Or who would y'all recommend

come in for this?

Cause to me that works better.

I want them to bring back

the guy who did this season.

I'm sorry.

No, I'm with you.

I wish they would bring Bo DeMayo back,

but Bo DeMayo must have did

something horrible for them to just go,

dude, you're out of here.

Before season one,

episode one ever comes out.

Like what was so bad that

they got rid of Bo?

Yeah.

And it's tight lip.

Like they're not even

talking about this shit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was just a Twitter, like, oh,

by the way, we fucking fired Bo.

Yeah.

We're like, wait, what?

It comes out tomorrow, and you fired him?

Yeah.

I got the poster up.

It shows Colossus.

Dust.

That's a huge one.

Magic.

It wasn't Dazzler.

It was the White Queen.

Okay.

Shadowcat.

Exodus.

Havoc and Iceman.

I like Havoc.

He's... Yeah.

And then they have Scarlet Witch,

but it says Offworld.

It says Offworld.

What's going on at the same

time as all this?

I don't know, but that's crazy.

That's crazy.

So Secret Wars is still

taking place behind all the

scenes of this.

Or it should be, I thought.

Uh,

cause that was going on at the same

time as, um,

the infinity war was the

secret wars was happening behind it.

Cause that's why we always

did it within the comic book.

We didn't see certain people for a while,

but then they would pop up

in the secret wars comic books,

but not in the infinities like gauntlet,

like comic books.

Hmm.

Um,

Are you talking about the

newest Infinity Gauntlet

stuff or the stuff from the past?

The newest stuff.

I need to go back and read

the older stuff.

I haven't kept up on the new

Secret Wars that they have.

I've got to read those.

I actually do.

I kind of hate it because of

this whole God Emperor Doom bullshit.

Yeah.

But I can see where that happens, you know,

because in the original Secret Wars,

he did his thing.

So I'm not sure whether or not any of that,

how that timeline works in

the comic books.

I don't think they really do

because it's so like there

were certain people that

disappeared and just never

reappeared again.

And it's just because they

fucking forgot they were there.

Like it was a hot mess for a hot while.

yeah I'm not sure I'll uh

I'll tell you what I'll

read those and I'm gonna

sit down and reread them as

well rehash it but it shows

angel on here archangel on

here as well which version

of archangel it's the blue

it's blue blonde hair so

he's actual archangel okay um

And, you know,

they do say missing presumed

dead on some of them cables.

I know the final form of

Bastion is a rip off of the

Archangel final form.

It's a throwback to what it looked like,

but I'm not sure if it was

actually meant to be a

ripoff or any of that stuff.

Ripoff was the wrong word.

It was a callback and a homage,

I want to say, rather.

Yeah.

Here's something, too, though.

They introduced the

techno-organic virus in this, right?

Mm-hmm.

Who else might we get with

the techno-organic virus?

A true being of it.

I'm just sure.

From Cable's storyline, right?

Nope.

Oh, no.

Warlock.

Oh, shit.

Yeah.

All of Warlock's people are

techno-organic beings.

Yeah.

No, you're right.

Dang, dude,

if we get that in season two as well,

season two and three has so

much potential.

So much potential.

So much potential.

But I think that even though

they saved the world,

I think what forged in them,

that they've really got to

be quiet about what they're doing.

And of course, you know, Bishop came back.

Like, hey,

I know what you're doing and

this and this.

And they're going on,

but they're going to have

to get in contact.

We don't know what Jubilee's doing,

what Sunspot's doing,

or any of that stuff.

It's going to be interesting, though,

when they open Season 2,

what has Bishop shared with

Forge from the future?

Right.

Or did Bishop make it to the future?

Maybe he accidentally went

backwards when they went

through the time jump.

Yeah.

Who knows?

So it's going to be interesting.

Yeah, I'm here for it.

I'm stoked that we're

getting at least two new seasons of this.

And I'm here.

I'm like, I look forward to, you know,

whatever, three,

four or five months from now.

Sitting back down with everybody and like,

dude, season two, man.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Whenever it is, you know, I mean,

we'll be back to talk about it.

But with that, man,

final shots and thoughts, bro.

What you got?

I see you broke out the

Comic Wars t-shirt.

I like it.

I would like to say that I

did this just for this episode.

No, I like it.

I wear my Comic Wars all the time.

That's one of those where

I'm sitting here looking at it like, man,

I got to get me one of them.

Final shots, parting shots.

All of the season was truly amazing.

This shows the shit at

Marvel with the MCU side of it.

We're not talking about the Sony crap.

We do not speak of that.

But Sony, not Sony, Marvel, Disney,

Marvel.

They basically came out and said,

we can do this shit and we

can do this shit right.

This is exactly a show.

And am I saying that it was perfect?

No.

No.

By all means, it was not perfect.

There's some gaps.

There's some stuff that we like different.

But it hit us in the feels

and it elated us.

And it never stopped hitting

us in the feels either.

No, no.

From episode one to episode 10,

it 100% gave us everything

that we wanted and more.

If you wanted fan service,

you got fan service.

If you thought you weren't

going to see a cameo, boom,

there's the cameo for you.

And don't get too attached

to anybody because they can

get murked too.

Exactly.

And we've seen it hundreds

of times throughout the comic books of

people come in and go in and

all of a sudden there's a

funeral scene like well how

in the fuck did they die

and that's exactly what

happened and I'm here for

it we could get that at the

opening of season two uh we

can we can oh season two

was going to be full on oh

dude what what I don't

think a lot of people

recognize was this series

happened over a span of years

This season happened over a span.

Season one happened over a

span of a couple years.

It wasn't just boom, boom, boom, boom,

boom, and everything happened.

But, you know, time progressed.

Time went on.

But I am so ready for season two.

Dude, without a doubt.

Hell yeah.

Without a doubt.

So let's do this, Rob.

It's 10-23.

All right.

What does Rob got coming up next?

Where's Rob heading to?

I know you're heading out of town again.

That's why we're live on a

Thursday night before a four-day weekend,

which is cool.

I love opening up a four-day

weekend with the show.

This is everything.

I'm actually chilling this weekend.

Okay.

Just got back last week on

up until this week.

We were in Memphis in May.

What was you doing in Memphis?

We were judging barbecue.

We actually got to judge

Memphis in May this year,

which was pretty awesome.

Those pictures look like

y'all were having a blast, man.

I'm telling you.

I actually got to do on-site judging.

So we went to each, you know,

I did three teams for each one,

both ribs and whole hog.

I got whole hog and we got

to see them do an onsite presentation.

You know, they tell us about their smoker,

their hog,

what kind of seasoning rub they use,

this whole deal.

They sell us on everything.

It's a whole story and a pageant.

Dude, I love it.

It is awesome.

And I'm telling you right now,

for anybody listening to this later,

if you've never been to

Memphis and ate barbecue and soul food,

You're missing out on life

and you need to make at

least one trip out to Memphis, Tennessee,

not Arkansas.

There we go.

And eat barbecue and eat soul food.

Go to the pyramid and enjoy it.

Yes.

Yes.

And also the National Civil

Rights Museum is there.

It is right down the road

from the pyramid.

There's so many cool things that is there,

but we, by the way,

the pyramid is now a Bass

Pro shop for anybody wandering out there.

It is.

Bass Pro.

Yeah, it was, it was pretty awesome.

Um, we're kind of in a, uh,

for my competition stuff,

we're kind of in the, uh, hole, you know,

it gets too hot during the summers,

but we're on the off season

and all I'm doing now is just practicing,

getting ready for the, uh,

second half which will begin

uh in sylvester georgia

late august okay I will go

right now I'm tied for they

got me in the 11th but I'm

tied for 10th it's like

10th 11th I think 12th uh

but tied for uh 10th in the

state of georgia 11th in

the state of georgia uh my

first year competition so

I'm hoping to break into the

top 10 and finish strong this year.

So when are we going to see

some Rob barbecue and Rob

seasonings hit the shelves

at our local supermarkets, man?

Dude,

so many people right now have sauces

and have seasonings on the

shelf and you can buy them.

And it's really cool to see

people that we knew from our past

doing big things like that.

When's Rob going to get that?

That's my question.

I will tell you this.

I know you just took first

in sauce in the last competition.

The last competition we did,

we did a sauce and one of

our sauces took first place in sauce.

I have an award winning sauce.

We have award winning rubs that seasoning,

the rubs that we put on there.

We have a whole

A couple different sauces.

Just stay tuned.

No, I'm here for it, dude.

I'm telling you.

There's one thing I live for,

and that's good barbecue.

I haven't been told yet that

I've got bad barbecue.

There we go.

If anybody out there is listening,

those people who make sauces and rubs,

hit up Rob and get it on the shelf.

What are y'all waiting on?

But with that, Rob, man, hey,

appreciate you coming on.

I know we're all busy doing things.

You're a backbone and a key player here,

brother.

And I can't thank you enough.

With that,

I want to thank everybody for

tuning in tonight.

I know there was a handful of you.

I appreciate it.

So everybody who's going to

be listening later.

You have no idea how much we

appreciate y'all tuning in and listening.

Stay tuned.

We may be going... It depends.

We've done three shows this fucking month,

which is crazy to think about,

but there's a lot of good

shit happening in the month of May.

And here we are toward the end of May,

and this is show number three.

We've done Star Wars.

We've done... Fuck, what else did we do?

I can't remember.

We've done a lot of stuff this month.

Oh, yeah.

Depending on what June brings,

I don't know if we'll be

doing another show like

this or if we'll just be on

here talking just basic

nerd news next month a couple of times.

We're still looking for interviews,

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