Chloe Gauvin-David | Athletes of the 2024 CrossFit Games

We catch up with Chloe Gauvin-David as she ends her brief retirement to make her return back to the CrossFit Games.  Why was this a year that just came together? and what are her expectations for this years Games.

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Welcome to the Clydesdale Media Podcast.

My name is Scott Switch.

I'm the Clydesdale.

She is Chloe Govind David.

And we're here to talk about

CrossFit Games.

But before we get into that,

I was on your Instagram and I have,

I want to start with something fun.

So I saw on your Instagram,

you practicing a movement

that you said you did not

get to do last year.

Oh, yes.

So my question to you is,

I never saw this technique.

Is this legal under the

standards of CrossFit?

Yes, it is.

It is.

I know.

Funny thing is I posted that

thinking it would be like my regular,

you know,

post with like maybe a hundred likes.

And then this thing blew up.

I, I don't understand.

I just, I guess people have, as you said,

not seen that technique or

they've never seen that done.

It was such a funny

throwaway post that really like took,

like just took off.

Well, one, I love it.

With the Olympics just around the corner,

it's very like gymnastic.

Exactly.

And everybody else seems to

do it more with a strict movement.

With that big kip,

that would make it so much easier.

yeah that's that's sort of

it that's why I posted I

was like oh maybe it'll

give some people some ideas

I got a few tags people

were trying it and I think

now it's caught on a bit

but to answer and even

answer your original

question it is legal so it

might change maybe if dave

or adrian saw this they're

going to change the

standards but the original

standards last for two

years ago was like start arms extended

and pass through a lockout.

So there's no like chin up requirement,

pull up,

or it's just straight arms to

lock out like a muscle up.

And it, you know,

it's up to you to see how

you want to get through that positioning.

So I guess being a gymnast

for this is really, really,

really helpful.

But you do get very,

very dizzy because of the

large angle or large, you know,

circumference of your turn.

So you do get, I think,

dizzier doing it this way.

It's more efficient,

but you get a little bit dizzy.

And if you're Brent Fitkowski,

you better make sure the

bar's high enough.

I should post a bent leg

version and tag Brent in it.

There you go.

Oh, but yeah, this is a wild post.

I mean, a lot of people tried it.

People were tagging me and

people were saying their

hips were hurting from, you know,

trying to get that seamless

transition without hitting their hips.

So it was a funny post.

You never know what's going

to go viral in this world, do you?

I would have never known.

Yeah, but I loved it.

I love the view of it.

And man,

I hope we get to see it in

competition and other people use it.

Maybe you, maybe this year.

If that comes out,

I'm going to do a salute.

I'm just going to and just be like,

this is my moment.

Next thing, just at the games,

you need to do it with a

dismount so you can land.

Exactly.

Everything for the views, right?

Yeah.

Because that would totally go viral.

Just a layout flip off of there,

land it perfectly.

Don't give me dreams here.

I'm daydreaming with that.

So I caught your interview

with Dave this morning.

Thank goodness it came out

right before this because

we get to talk about it now.

You asked what I thought was

a brilliant question.

Oh, thank you.

You asked Dave if he could

create a new workout, not named workout,

but yeah.

And what would it be?

And he kind of walked

through the process with

you and didn't really put

together a full workout,

but walked through the process.

And you said that's really

what you wanted anyway,

because you wanted to hear

his thought process.

In addition to that,

you said you read his book

and you were waiting for a new one.

I ask you if you were

creating a new benchmark.

Oh, what would it be?

Ooh, the tables.

Oh my God.

Your arms are beautiful, Chloe.

Oh, thank you so much.

Wow.

What a beautiful compliment.

Um,

Yeah, that's going to,

that's going to turn a bit.

I think where Dave,

I thought it was

interesting because I did

leave it a little bit open

and did in the sense that I said, Oh,

benchmark workouts for my experience,

Fran, Diane,

they were written on the

walls when you walked into the affiliate,

like those were the,

what's your bench from the

gym equivalency, right?

What's your friend, your Diane,

so important and so like pivotal.

And whether you stay in CrossFit,

it's like, Oh, all these little things,

are just part of the process.

So I really wanted to hear his perspective,

not from a games athlete.

And so I'm happy he went that way.

He really went what would be

like an affiliate new

benchmark that people could

just could go into their gym and do.

He even said it would be

different for a new person,

like someone just walking off the street.

But for someone who's been doing, you know,

three, six months CrossFit,

what would be a new benchmark?

Personally, I feel like

Right now, like the Fran,

Diane's and Cindy's are

really cool in the sense

that they're varied.

You have some short, some long.

So I think where I would go

is trying to bring in maybe,

like he mentioned the wall walk.

I love a wall walk.

So bringing in maybe like a

newer movement style, like a wall walk,

something we haven't seen

that's accessible,

but that we haven't seen.

But as he said,

I agreed with him in the

sense that you want it to be accessible.

So a wall walk, you can even put it,

a line for the scaled and

you can do the full line to the 10 inch.

You want some version of

like a thruster that everybody can do.

I do like the complexity of

like a squat snatch, which we evolved.

We talked about Amanda towards the end.

I do like the difficulty

where it's a challenge

where someone might

necessarily not walk in and

be able to do it.

And now they want to strive towards it.

I think that's interesting.

And that's gets, gets people into, Oh,

I have to train for this

and I'm going to eventually get it.

like Fran banded first time

and then kipping and then

butterfly as you progress.

So as Dave,

I don't think I could write

something on the fly,

but I would definitely try

to have maybe a new-ish

movement like the wall walk,

which shows the evolution of the sport,

but still keeping some challenge,

perhaps like a thrust or a

wall walk and maybe

something more complex so

that people could strive

towards getting it RX for the first time.

So you don't get it right away.

You have to kind of work for it.

Yeah,

and I like your response to the

Amanda because, you know, on paper,

it's 9-7-5.

Everybody's like, well, that's it.

Exactly.

And then when you're done with it,

you said, talk to me when you're done.

And then you realize you

just got hit with something

you didn't realize.

What I like about it,

the way you described it,

is something to strive for.

When I started CrossFit in 2011,

like Fran was that thing I

wanted to be able to do RX.

And my gym had a very like

big stipulation that you

had to do it in under five

or you're missing the stimulus.

Even if you could do

pull-ups and you could do the thruster,

if you couldn't do it under five,

then you still need to scale.

And so it was this big like

achievement to try to get to that,

to be able to do it.

So that's the one part I

kind of disagreed with Dave a little bit.

Like,

Burpees and a dumbbell

thruster is not something to strive for.

It's just something that's going to hurt.

But I get what he was trying

to make a point of, too,

that sometimes programming

just needs to be simple and

let the athlete shine.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, we got a lot out of it, right?

As you can see,

there was a lot out of that one question.

I didn't think it would be, it was great,

but I didn't, I didn't expect that.

I would agree with you in

the sense that a burpee and

a thruster is maybe too accessible,

but I understand, as he said,

it depends if someone's

like walking off the street,

am I introducing it to CrossFit?

You could tell he wasn't

sure where to bring it.

So I think he showed from burpee,

thruster,

And he went all the way to Amanda, right?

A friend, a pimped up friend.

So I think he showed even mentally his,

okay,

from I don't know what CrossFit is

to almost CrossFit games.

He showed what the benchmark

could evolve into depending

on what level you're at.

But striving for me, for sure,

a benchmark is something

you have to strive to achieve.

That's what makes it like benchmark.

Like, wow,

I'm going to go write my time down.

And it's going to matter and

I can put it in the Rx

category today because I

worked on it and etc.

I think the main thing I got

out of it is it's not easy.

Like coming up with a

benchmark is not a simple thing.

It takes a lot of thought.

There's a lot of factors into it.

What do you want to accomplish with it?

So then my follow-up question to you is,

if you were ever given the

opportunity to program the

games or a major competition,

would you jump at that chance?

Because it seems like you

really nerd out on this stuff.

I mean,

it would be a lot of pressure and I

feel like it would be

something that you have to

tread into with a lot of

like caution and

understanding that this is a big moment,

especially like games or

semifinals or of that caliber.

I already program a master's comp.

So in Quebec,

we have like this masters competition,

masters only competition

that people come all over Quebec,

which is, you know,

a few hours ride to come to

our competition.

And I always take it with a

lot of seriousness in the

sense that masters are often, oh,

in our comps, RX scaled master.

It's like, oh,

there's knee raises and it's

okay because they're masters.

And I'm like, no,

I want to do a masters comp

For masters, not lesser.

No.

What can they do at their level,

at their age group?

What does it look like?

Inspired by looking at Dave, Adrian Bosman,

how they scale it down.

Is it weight?

Is it reps?

Is it rounds?

How do they do it?

Because they're the greats.

And then work off of that

and give them a true

competition for masters of all calibers.

So we do have scaled masters

and RX masters.

So I do have a little bit of

that experience of really

having to deconstruct and

organize and test and

retest because I've made

those programming errors where you go,

this is going to be great.

And it's a complete disaster in testing.

So I've already had that experience.

So I think I would totally

jump at programming a big event.

That would be almost dream, like a dream.

I would absolutely love it.

It's funny you talk about

that because I think

Masters is probably harder

to program for than the

Elites because there are so

many age divisions.

I was at Legends last year

where they scaled out the

bar muscle up from the 60 plus athletes,

60 to 64 and 65 plus.

Those athletes begged,

let us show you what we can do.

And they changed it on the fly.

They made it like round one

was chest to bar round two.

Then you get to go for your bar muscle up.

And those that could do it could do it.

And they got to show

everybody what they could do.

So I think if you've done masters,

it would be almost easier

to do the elite.

Yeah,

I can see where you're going with that.

I understand it's

It's you go from such a

limitation to almost,

I'll say no limitation because you know,

for us,

35 to 39 can pretty much do what

the elite athletes are, right?

You're just out of the game.

Then you go all the way to

65 plus and they're

everything in between.

So the, yeah,

figuring out what is

appropriate for every age

group is a lot more thought

process than just the elites.

Yeah.

And men and women as well.

I feel as, yeah, masters, men and women.

So you almost have a lot of subcategories.

You have the age, you have men and women,

and there's a bigger

difference throughout the age categories.

Like for us, okay, yeah,

calories will be adjusted.

And yes, but I mean, masters,

there is a bigger difference for sure.

Corey Leonard says,

I now have a new favorite athlete.

Thank you, Chloe,

for recognizing that we're old, not dead.

I hear that a lot.

Actually.

That's so funny.

I love it.

It's that's exactly it.

When the athletes after the comp,

I always say,

give me feedback on programming.

I want it.

Tell me like, Oh, tell me,

give me the information.

Cause I can only get better

if you tell me versus if

you don't tell me.

And they always say,

thank you for challenging, not, you know,

making it easier.

It's like challenging, but doable.

And obviously what's in the

finale is not necessarily

what's written in the standards.

Like they know finale, anything goes.

And I put handstand walks in

my finales for masters.

And we do it, and it's, you know,

some of them, you know, they get mad,

but the next year, I swear,

they come back and they're like,

all right,

there better be handstand walk

this year because I'm ready.

So I just feel like you have the challenge,

but of course,

you still have to keep the

majority of the competition doable, fun,

accessible, but finding that,

just that nuance, and it's really tough.

I don't always get it right, but I try.

And it's funny you say that

because it happens in the elite too,

like the year they

introduced the pegboards.

what less than a handful could do them.

And now it's a basic movement.

Exactly.

Uh, and that,

that's how you advance the

sport and that's how you grow and,

and everybody gets better.

Um, we'll move on from programming.

a couple more fun things.

You have now these new

competitions that are

coming out like SoCal,

Wadapalooza that are doing

North America versus the world.

You have a fit fest is now

doing Europe versus the

world as a Canadian.

And the,

the amount of athletes that Canada

is putting into the games

now at the highest levels,

when are we going to see

Canada versus the world?

No, you bring it up a good point.

I did.

I always have that little

thought behind my head.

I go, I see like the world, you know,

Europe or, and they all make sense.

You want that.

You want that.

US, but I feel like the invitational,

I mean, we had Canada.

So it was there at some point.

I don't know if it's because

of the athletes that were

there or the representation, right?

Oh, there were more Canadian athletes,

perhaps.

And now it's changed.

Now it's North America,

because we had Canada East, Canada West,

we had the Atlas Games.

So I feel like slowly, but surely,

we've kind of cut down a bit.

And now it's like, okay, all of America,

North America, and

we're all just one big pool of athletes.

But in my heart, like in my head,

there's always a little bit of, yeah,

like Canada should be

represented as its own space,

as its own country,

as its own like representation.

That's exactly what I thought.

I said, oh, Jeff Adler is North America.

Oh yeah, North America is all of us,

which again, it's okay to be with the US.

I just feel like we're powerhouse too.

I feel like there is place

perhaps for us as well,

if you look at the athletes.

So I don't know where it

went and I'd love to hear

the mindset of why there's

probably a reason,

but I did say the same thing.

I said, Oh, Canada,

that would be really cool.

Well,

we look at the European semifinal and

the emotion that goes in the,

the spectators have because

they get the route for their country,

right?

Because in Europe,

there are 20 different

countries represented at semifinals.

And, um,

And while we're friends with Canada,

the U.S.

and Canada are really good friends,

there is some rivalry.

You look at Olympic hockey

and how visceral it gets

between the two countries.

I think that Canada should

have representation when

three of the top four men

athletes last year were Canadian.

That's true.

And I co-host a show with Carolyn Prevost,

and her immediate reaction was,

why doesn't Canada have their own team?

That's what I thought too.

But,

and I think like Canada could put that on,

but I, and this is just facts.

I think the can West fiasco

has hurt Canadian competitions.

I agree.

I agree.

Atlas with the, you know,

the COVID experience as well.

I mean,

I know a lot of places got closed down,

but we were the one where

the athletes were in the briefing.

I was there.

We were sitting in the briefing.

I was listening.

I took a flight.

I took,

we're sitting in the auditorium and

they close.

They're like that really

broke people in the sense that, Oh,

it just crushed them to

have traveled paid that close.

And then the can West with all the payouts,

the can East it's,

It's been tough for Canada.

I totally agree in that sense.

But I mean,

you can still have like

representation at the SoCal

event or that they're putting it on.

They can still decide if they wish to,

to have Canada as one of the representing,

I'll say,

Nations for now?

There's like Europe, right?

Europe.

No, world.

World is all of Europe, right?

Is that it?

Europe and others?

So Cal is doing North

America versus the world.

Yeah, exactly.

I'm thinking in the UK and

they're doing Europe versus the world.

Yes, exactly.

So Canada versus the world.

Yeah, we could do something like that.

You could grow the sport

here if you did just US

versus Canada in the

offseason every year.

Just a one day,

like the invitational was one day,

couple hours, right?

That was fun.

I miss it.

I miss it.

That was, that was awesome.

I mean,

the invitational was must watch for

a CrossFit nerd.

We would barbecue,

my buddies and I would sit

around the TV and we would

watch it for a couple hours

and it was just a great day.

I agree.

I agree.

And then it was like everybody was like,

who's going to be on the team?

And like the weeks before, it's like, oh,

who are they going to pick between?

Is the best event finish?

What is it from the games?

And everybody would

speculate who would be on the team.

And it was just something

for the offseason.

Right.

Because the offseason before

Rogue and then Rogue came into the space,

which is amazing.

Rogue is absolutely amazing.

One more topical thing I

want to get your impression on,

and then we'll talk about

your goals for the games.

But I like talking about

this stuff more because I

think we learn more.

You have been a team athlete

and an individual athlete.

Recently, a couple drug pops have come,

and it's in the team competition.

Off the air,

Carolyn and I were having a

conversation about how

difficult it is to put your

trust in three other people.

going into a team season and

you have no control over

what they do when they're

away from practice.

As a team athlete, what is that like?

And then I don't know if you

saw Sasha Nieve's response.

But it was not discarded at all.

She basically let it all out,

how disappointed she was,

fighting through injury to

make it through this season,

and then to have it ripped

away because one of her

teammates was irresponsible.

Yeah, it's, there's almost no words.

I, I, in my brain, I just went there.

Imagine if like one of my seasons,

I just put myself in that

mindset for a second and it's just,

it's devastating.

Um, but again, you can't,

it's not something you could control.

It's not something you could change.

You can't go back and it's

so difficult when it's out

of your control.

Like a lot of things for a

lot of athletes.

Do you think some athletes

do not do team because they

can't control that?

That's interesting.

I didn't think of that perspective.

Perhaps it depends again,

how much you trust your teammates,

how much you know them as, as,

as people first, um,

I think a lot of the

teammates I've been on,

like I've known as people

before even considering

going team with them.

So I have a little bit more

perspective on their,

I'll say their character or

their choices or even their

informed decisions.

Because not all those cases are, oh,

I decided to and yeah, I chose to dope.

Some of them it's, you know,

like an error in reading,

a wrong product.

So it's not always their fault,

but that is still like

informed decisions.

Like, I mean, I read everything,

everything.

I over, I would say I overdo it.

Like my, my boyfriend knows,

like when I come home from semis,

I'm like, okay, like,

are we sure that we checked everything?

I really go overboard perhaps.

And just knowing that others

are the same and are not as careless.

I think that's important.

So perhaps some people that go,

should I go team with this person?

I don't really know them.

Perhaps not.

But I think the biggest

thing that I remember is

like the move fast lift to

heavy team that I went on.

I remember having that conversation.

They had popped the year before 22, 21.

I don't want to quote it wrong,

but I don't remember which year.

And we had a discussion about that.

And when I came into that year, they said,

we're going to all sit in the office.

Give me the list of all your supplements.

So I think people learn as well.

So we checked everything.

Everything was checked earlier.

Like, okay, give me a list.

What is everybody in?

Everybody understands what

we're going into.

You do not take anything that's been open.

Like even just a drink.

Oh, like vendors, right?

You think it's ridiculous.

I never take anything from a

vendor that's open.

I know it's totally ridiculous,

like a sample, but-

It's open.

It's open.

So I'm friends with the,

the pan check twins.

Like they won't even like

take a protein bar from

anybody or anything.

Like if,

if they had didn't purchase it

themselves and check it out,

they do not eat it.

Same, same.

It's tempting.

It's everything's out there.

And it's like, try this, try that.

And it's just trying to stay focused.

So yeah,

like I learned a lot in that

moment with move fast, lift heavy.

It was like, okay,

we're going to go talk in the,

in the office.

I was like, okay, this is serious.

And they're like, okay,

we're going to talk about that.

And I said, wow,

that's really being

proactive as much as you

can and really taking

things as much into your hands,

checking everything,

helping the athletes out.

So I think a lot of it comes to, as I said,

informed choice, looking, being proactive,

even as a team,

talking to your teammates and saying,

what are you taking?

Do you need help?

Do you need, hey,

let's all bundle and all

buy the same things.

And so, yeah.

And it's like a Christian as

a leader learned from a bad experience,

never to let that happen again.

And that's why I'm assuming

that meeting happened.

Yeah, well, exactly.

We, we, we really,

we were all on the same

page and it was a very,

very serious discussion,

which it needs to be.

This is a very serious

commitment that we're all doing.

I was taking flights and it's,

it's a very serious

commitment no matter what.

And you're committing

yourself to others as well.

It's not just yourself.

It's the whole team.

Yeah.

So segueing, when you were at semifinals,

you were coaching a team

and you were competing individually.

Yeah.

And every time I saw you backstage,

you were coaching your team.

And I didn't see you doing

like getting ready yourself

for the floor.

I know you probably were,

but it just so happens like

all I saw was your

dedication to that team.

Now you're going to the

games without that commitment.

I know you'd love for the

team to have made it,

but what does it do to you?

Can you focus more on yourself now?

And is that going to make it

easier for you at the games?

I think so.

I think without taking away

from like the team and prior engagements,

I mean, I chose to do everything.

to help the team,

I chose to take that

leadership role and that coach's role.

And I was very happy to do it.

And even at semis,

they were awesome in the sense that,

Chloe, do what you need to do.

If you need to step away,

or they really were awesome

in always saying, Chloe,

think of yourself first.

But I said, no,

this is what I said I would do.

And at the start of the year,

and I'm someone that when I

say I'm going to do something, I do it.

So I try to stick to what I say.

So to your question,

semis was a lot of focus on

them day one and day two.

I don't think I even had

time to stress on my event.

And I think that kind of

played a positive role.

Like I heard your discussion with Carolyn,

um, about.

Like, oh, did it help Chloe or not?

And I watched that and it

was really interesting.

And I think she got it

completely right in the

sense that it liberated my

brain of overstressing.

And it just made it that I'm

here to compete and have fun.

I'm here to enjoy.

And I know people don't like

saying having fun,

but truly just enjoying.

I've been doing this long

enough to step out on the floor and say,

hey, I'm here.

That doesn't mean I have no fire.

I'm going to tell you when I

walk out on the floor, it's like,

I'm going unbroken on those

doubles and I'm a grab the

bar and you know, we're laughing,

but it was serious in the moment.

But then as soon as I step off, it's okay.

What does the team need?

What are we doing?

Where are we at?

So I think that liberated

some brain space in that way.

And it allowed me to have a

really good semifinals as we saw.

And I think that turning that into games.

I think I can train a lot more.

I was giving up a lot of my

weekends to train the team

and help them with the worm and such.

And that would put a little

bit of my training on pause.

So I would say that time wise,

I do have more time to

dedicate to myself and not the team.

So I think that's the

biggest advantage that I'll

have now is the time to

train the brain space,

not programming for them

and really just keeping

that energy towards my own success,

my own development and my own goals.

I have this advantage of

co-hosting a show with Carolyn,

and we talk all the time.

How is it that the two of

you in 2018 are essentially

tied for the spot to go to the games?

And I would say Carolyn is

one of your biggest fans as well.

I'm one of our two biggest fans.

So how do you go from like

these competitors that tie

for the last spot to go to

the games and you guys have

remained friends for all these years?

I think there's two,

there's two funny moments.

Well,

one statement I'll say in one funny

moment, the statement,

I think we've both done

team sports and I think

team sports really allow

you to learn to like win and lose and

I think as a team and

sometimes it's out of your control,

sometimes it's in your control.

Sometimes I think as a team player,

you appreciate others and

you're able to say like

good game and good job and

appreciate others winning

even at your loss.

I think vice versa.

I think Carolyn has that like tenfold.

she can really step out of

the moment and and still

appreciate I remember her

at 2018 we hugged and she's

like I think it's you and I

said I think it's you

because I'm the one that

messed up on the last event

I did terribly almost took

last so I thought it was

her and it was such an

authentic moment and when I

when it did when it was

announced that it was me

You know, she had her moment, but she was,

there was no,

I didn't feel any resentment.

She said, good job.

And that stayed in my brain.

I said, wow,

she could have gone any

direction with that.

And she chose to be like the

most sportsman person ever.

And from that moment, I was like, wow,

that's someone with amazing character.

And that's someone that I have to keep.

She's not far from me.

I like, I have to keep in my circle and my,

in my positive circle.

And then 20, she went back to the games,

2021.

2022 she took the spot at

atlas atlas that's 2022

right I think 21 21 so 20 I

don't know I'm 22 yeah I

think it's 22 21 21 was

online atlas 22 was an in-person atlas

Yes, okay.

So in person, so 2022,

I remember she was going

into the last event, the legless run,

and obviously she had to do

really great to keep her spot.

And I remember talking to

her coach and to her and

telling the coach saying,

I still remember last event,

like you just being –

there and still being a good

person and being very very

positive regardless of

whether we had to compete

and then her coach told me

yeah I told her backstage

2022 this is like the year

of Chloe you have to go out

there crush those leg lists

to earn your spot so she he

brought that back up and

then when I watched it and

when she qualified I went

under and said see

Like this is your moment.

You crushed it.

You got it.

You deserved it.

It's all you.

So I feel like there's a few

moments back and forth

there where we've

appreciate each other's

like success and just stayed.

Yes, competitors,

but just being able to

appreciate the person under

the competitor.

I think that makes a huge difference.

Yeah, that's awesome.

So she's amazing.

I've already gone the 30 minutes I said,

so I'm just going to ask

you one last question.

And that is you're going into the games.

You were retired for about

two weeks and then now

you're back to the games.

What is your goal this year?

I'm here.

No, actually, interestingly enough,

2018, I qualified.

It wasn't necessarily

something I was aiming for

the whole year in 2018.

I was happy to go to regionals.

It was like my fourth regionals.

And I was like, well, like, OK,

I'm getting better.

I'm getting better.

But always 10th, 9th,

because I was close to fifth.

So I was just hoping to get

better year after year.

And then 2018 events, a lot of gymnastics,

the ramp just wasn't my favor.

And I qualified and I went

to the games kind of as a rookie,

bright eyed, bushy tailed.

Taking it in and now 2021, 2022,

2023 team.

I know the game's feeling.

I know what it's like to step out.

I know what it's like to warm up,

cool down.

I have so much more

experience than that little girl in 2018.

Like I told Dave.

So I feel like now 2024,

I want to go in there being

able to perform.

I still want to have fun.

I want to enjoy.

I want to walk out, see the environment.

But the same thing I did semis,

which is three, two, one, go.

I want to perform, execute.

I have goals, intention per workout.

That's the thing that I want

to work on this year that I

didn't do in 2018.

2018,

I just did the workout like if it was

a class workout.

Now I want to like attack it.

And where that lands me, that lands me.

I don't have ranking objectives.

I don't know, you know, making the cuts,

not the cuts.

I don't want to put that on my plate.

I just want to make sure

that every time I'm on the floor,

like at semis,

I do it and I do it for myself.

I crush it and that'll land

me where it lands me.

Was your surprise look at semis authentic?

Oh my God.

Yes.

Ninth.

Like I don't, I don't even understand.

I was 15 going into the last event.

15th.

Like this makes, it still makes no sense.

I was trying to talk with my boyfriend.

I'm like, how many points?

He's like, yeah, I think I'm like,

I am like, there's no way I was fit.

There's no way I had no clue.

And then Sousa was behind me

and he was filming me.

And I'm like, if he's filming me,

maybe I have a chance,

but I'm telling you it was authentic.

I was like, what just happened?

All I could think about was my team.

There was a lot going on.

It just felt overwhelming in

the moment of how could I

be getting this when it was

supposed to be my team?

There was a lot.

It was a lot.

I feel like people maybe were like, oh,

she was surprised.

I was surprised, but there was more.

I think it was multiple

layers to my reaction.

Nothing would prepare you

for the games more than that field.

That was a stacked feeling.

And it just showed anything

could happen because there

was so much middling.

Right?

Because it is so stacked.

That last day,

someone from the first heat

finished in the top five in every event.

That's how crazy it was.

Absolutely.

Well, Chloe, man,

you become one of my

favorite people to interview.

Because it doesn't feel like an interview.

It just feels like we're hanging out.

That's how I feel too.

But I want to thank you so

much for taking the time.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

Enjoy training and we'll see you in Texas.

You're going to be there.

We got, I got my media credentials Friday.

Congrats.

That's exciting.

That's so exciting.

Yeah.

So I will be there this year

and I can't wait to cheer you on.

Perfect.

Can't wait to see you there.

If you cross me, let's say hi,

take a picture for sure.

All right.

Thanks Chloe.

We'll see you soon.

Perfect.

Thank you.