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Journalist Nathan Stone and Producer Josh Carmody invite you to sit down for deep dives on the rapid changes happening in Trump’s new America.
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Even when they win, they still lose. The Democratic Party has once again disappointed its supporters, who were energized after a series of election victories by capitulating to the Trump administration and ending the government shutdown. After a rollercoaster week of highs and lows, are the Democrats any farther ahead than before? Welcome to the Politics of New America. On the show today, the fallout of the November 4th elections.
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the deal to end the government shutdown, and the factory of disappointment that is the Democratic Party. I'm your host, Nathan Stone, and with me tonight is producer Josh Carmody. Oh, they really snatched victory from the jaws of defeat, didn't they? They sure did. I had a very different show planned before everything with the elections and then this last minute government shutdown, the 40 days, 40 nights of...
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You know a drift the government is coming back and It's fine everybody Josh Hartnett finally had sex we're It all went out the window because I feel like We just have to talk about the the kind of ramifications here both for The Democratic Party and for the Republican Party and then writ large over America. So I think where
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We'll start off, we're gonna start off with the good news for Democrats, which was the elections. The elections went very, very well for them, about as uh good as they could have hoped for, which is fantastic uh for a party that has really been kind of down and out and needs any kind of a win. uh If you weren't following them too closely, it was a smattering of
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uh state elections plus California's Prop 50 and uh the New York uh mayoral race. So a weird kind of mishmash of just off-year elections, which happens all the time really, but one of the ones that people have paid more attention to. So this has kind of been the first bellwether after the Trump administration has come into power.
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What we got was a snapshot of the American people still very angry and now more angry at the Republicans and at Trump than at the Democratic Party. But even in this victory, I think there's still kind of some limits to how optimistic you want to feel if you're a Democrat.
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And I only say this for a couple of reasons, but so let's just uh hit on them. So Virginia was the uh governor. They were voting on the gubernatorial races. uh so Abigail Spanberger uh won over Winsome Earl Sears. And this one was actually a flip. So it was uh the outgoing uh Republican.
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governor chose to not run again. so the Democrats were able to flip Virginia. Virginia does tend to go back and forth like this. It's kind of a purple state. so this isn't totally a surprise, 57 % Spanberger got, which is a strong showing for that, right? Anything kind of above that 55 % rating.
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is generally a pretty solid margin of victory, right? You think, you know, 50 to 40 something is close, but it's not really in most American politics, right? If you want to say an election was close, you really want to say like, oh, it was 51 to 49, it was 52 to 48. 57 to 42 and a half, 43 is a pretty solid showing. so that was Potentially like a few hundred thousand people, I'm assuming.
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at that point or I'm not sure. It was actually almost five hundred thousand. Yeah. So so yeah exactly. So she flipped that riding. She's also I believe the first female governor of Virginia. So congratulations to her for that. Her opponent was also a female. So no matter who it was that was going to happen. Sort of a win win. So we also had New Jersey where we had Mickey Sherrill defeat Jack Sidarelli.
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And so this was kind of an interesting one because of the way that the votes broke. state was this against her. This is New Jersey. This is New Jersey. OK. Yeah. New Jersey a pretty heavily blue state you would say both state side and federally. So this isn't a big surprise. But the GOP had actually been making some fairly large gains. They had higher hopes for this election.
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oh of kind of finally breaking through. And what we saw was voters rejecting that, but also we've seen some demographics that have shifted from the Democrats to the Republicans. So Latino men, for example, being a really big one who voted en masse for Trump and were a big part of why he won, uh seemingly shifting back now to the Democratic Party, which uh
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is something that they desperately need to happen. seeing that happening in New Jersey is kind of fueling some optimism that this is going to be a wider trend going forward. So again, a bit of good news there. was also 56.6 % Mickey Cirelli that she got over Jack Sidarelli. He was at 42.8%. And a difference of somewhere in the
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range of 500,000 votes again. again, a solid victory here. And looking at those two state elections, I think what we want to take away from them is the not so much the Democrats won, which we would expect, especially in a year, you know, after you have a party take the White House, right? Generally,
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that administration there's blowback right in the next election. There's a... for sure yeah. Especially in like such a big majority there's so everyone's just like wait a second. Exactly right. So we expect this from uh you know from these types of elections. So the outcome is less interesting really than how it was done and the level of these victories right.
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fact that none of these elections were close. If you were watching them on TV, most of the pollsters kind of called it right after the polls closed. It wasn't ever really in doubt. And so that's what you want to hold on to if you're a Democrat. And you think, OK, well, you know what? We won these, and we won these handily. And that's about as good as you can ask for. So then we kind of shift focus here, because then we have two very
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very different votes, but also very interesting. Hitting on New York, Zoran Mamdani, 50.4 % of the votes. So he defeated Andrew Como, who was running as an independent because of course Mamdani took the Democratic nomination from him.
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uh has now beat him twice and Curtis Silwa. Who is the GOP candidate? Everyone's everyone's crazy uncle. Everyone's like because it wasn't like he got like assaulted or something like did he not get like shot and that was kind of like his big. I think that he's just like a crazy uncle like ripping stories, but the fact that like he even if you took away all his votes.
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It's still, Mamdani's still one of one. It's pretty friggin' wild. Yeah, so this was again a pretty solid victory, right? So nine percentage points over Kumo. And when you think about everything that the Democratic Party has done to distance themselves from and, you know, throw doubt on Mamdani, everything they've done to not support him.
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through this. It's it's pretty vindicating I think for the progressive wing of the party. But it really highlighted the fact that the Democrats as a big tent party. Are just a mess internally. And once we get to the shutdown thing that'll be highlighted even more so. But you know with with Mom Donnie I think what I would say is.
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I wish him the absolute best. I think he's an incredible candidate. I worry about him uh just because his own party has been so... Now, not everyone in this party, obviously, but a lot of the uh senior Democrats have been very, very against him. A lot of... Well, of course, all Republicans uh and...
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so much of the people that he has to work with, right, that he has to uh break bread with, that he has to have relationships with. There are so many people that would love to see him fail, uh you know, because of his politics, because he's a democratic socialist. There's going to be a line... can't even talk about him on the democratic subreddit.
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It's it's against the rules because he's a democratic socialist to talk about him on the Democratic Party Subreddit. They don't know why I had no idea. But there's one. Yeah, they were gone. Yeah, there is no there. There's no shortage of people waiting to dance on his grave as a politician. Right. So he has to not only does he have a mountain to climb because New York's got a lot of issues.
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The big one, of course, being that a lot of its residents can't afford to live there. But he has to do it in the face of unprecedented pushback from not only, you know, the opposition, but his own party. And you want to talk about, you know, draining the swamp and the deep state and everything. This is the kind of thing where
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He has no friends in almost any direction, unfortunately. Despite this Cinderella story and perfect defeat that he has against a guy who committed sexual assault. He did what they couldn't do in November of last year. He defeated a candidate who was convicted of sexual assault. they were, yeah, I don't think ever
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fully supported him, at least not up into like the Chuck Schumer ranks like he definitely he avoided the question. I mean, you have AOC is on his side. Bernie Sanders is on his side. AOC is definitely a great get for him in terms of that, because she's kind of a similar story of a populist candidate. mean, obviously she's has a very different power set when it comes to what she's able to do as an elected official. And I think also because she's a woman that she was largely ignored until it was too late. She fucking elected.
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You know, so I think that was the kind of they're like, fuck it. So now she's here. But I think it's good that there's at least been those people who are so front and center and constantly talked about every day are on his side. But I don't really know who else is there on his side. I know of some of the people who aren't. But there's definitely some people who are uh maybe still sitting there that should speak up. It's it's incredible that.
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I think the United States is honestly the only liberal democracy in the world where you would have this kind of incredible pushback against what is quite frankly, as far as a socialist goes, a very moderate socialist. wouldn't raise an eyebrow here in Canada if he was a member of the New Democratic Party, for example, or in the UK.
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uh under the liberal Democrats, that kind of thing, right? And there's plenty of socialist parties in Europe as well, right? This is a uniquely American uh visceral reaction to a guy who campaigned on stuff that if a normal Democrat, know, just a normal liberal Democrat had said it, people would be like, yeah, that's great. That's awesome. Good candidate, right? It's this...
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fear of, now it of course doesn't help that he's a Muslim and that's scary to a lot of people, but everything that he's preaching in terms of affordability, rent control, these kind of things are just populist progressive policies, right? He's not uh threatening to build, you know, the New York borough wall around the city and, you know, post guards and stuff, right? This isn't
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He's not turning this into East Germany, he's just trying to address some concerns. But I think the most important thing about his election, other than that I am very scared for him politically, is that this is a perfect playbook for Democrats. Affordability is such a huge issue, and it's a huge issue everywhere, but in the United States it's only getting worse. uh
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especially now that Senate Dems have folded on the government shutdown without getting what they wanted, which was uh guarantees that the Affordable Care Act subsidies would be held over. Things are just getting more more more expensive. So you have a candidate that comes in and says, this is my goal. We need people to be able to live in this city. And that's not too much to ask.
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And so his whole platform is around making New York affordable for uh the working class. And this is a gift. This is a gift for the Democrats, right? This is a guy who is extraordinarily popular amongst their progressive wing, a wing that they have been uh basically repressing for the past 20 years. And this is a guy that can just
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You could just take just take his policies and you can put these together at a federal scale. You can do things that, you know, work on a nationwide level. This is a gift. Please take it, Democrats. ah But as I said in the last episode, but then we can't steal five hundred thousand dollars from one program and give it to a billionaire.
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That is the one downside. How could we not give that $500,000? Obviously, there's far more money at stake, but I do think it is good to illustrate that sometimes it does come down to that amount of money, like less than millions. Yeah. You're handing over like in small kind of small transactions, $500,000 to a billionaire instead of spending it on something that the people need. That's not even pocket change.
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To a billionaire, right? Like that's not even a rounding error for them. It's so incredible. Yeah, there's just there's never enough. There's just never enough to feed those needy billionaires. And Musk is now going to be a trillionaire. Well, yes, because that was the next logical step there. Right. Yeah. Let's give this dude a trillionaire. mean, obviously he clearly can't afford the hernia belt.
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So he needs to get one of those. So I guess I mean, everything's going up in America. So I don't know what a hernia belt runs for these days, but I guess he needs cash. Yeah, I don't know if Tesla is going to be around long enough. Can a meme stock last that long to make to make Alaska a trillionaire? It's hard to say. mean, I think they just know something we don't know. And that's mean, market manipulation. Ultimately, mean, hey, if Nancy Pelosi is retiring, that's
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Sell, sell, That's all I can say, because I've heard talk that she might be. don't know if that's yes. Yes, she definitely she is. She definitely is. OK. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Like what? Especially like in terms of Democrats that are like not on your side. Like this is a person who's like been trading stocks for years. Like they are. None of them should be allowed to do that. I don't know what party you're with. That's that's a no-no. I mean, this is this is basic corruption 101.
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It's honestly, it's something that maybe we should talk about on the show someday, but this is the fact that they are able to hold and sell and trade stocks while in office is uh absolutely ludicrous considering they're just swimming in insider information. it almost makes Trump seem like a chaos whistleblower, or he's just like,
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I'm just going to commit as much illegal stuff as I can in public and see what happens. You know, because he does public market manipulation. There's like things that we see. Like it was like, you know, a Friday would hit. He's like, well, weekends coming better, better, better. Fuck with everything. You know, you can look at it and watch it happen in real time. And you're telling me like people like Nancy Pelosi weren't also privy to things like that, but just subtler, you know.
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Yeah. And you've given me a great segue though, because... I thought I was just ranting. One of the things that this election did was uh send some Republicans spiraling. Oh, there was that, yeah. There was some spiraling, but there was some important bits there too. And one of the themes that we've had on this show so far is that...
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This generation of Republicans, modern Republicans, cannot help but to tell you what they're thinking and what they're going to do. You just kind of have to listen to them. And I think the most jarring one for me was probably Steve Bannon. I don't know if you heard. I'm fairly certain I know what you're going to talk about. Yeah, Steve Bannon doesn't I don't know if he talks that much, but every time he seems to there's it's always on a big stage.
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And he always says the craziest shit. Yeah. Well, Steve Bannon and to be, I guess, fair to Steve Bannon, he is someone who has had a lot of success in terms of, uh you know, pushing his worldview on the Republican Party and getting the way that he sees uh the United States government running, uh you know, having that that kind of influence, right? He is a very, he was.
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Yeah, central in the first Trump administration. That's why I kind of feel like I don't I feel like he isn't quite as close to them now, but seems to be as well. is like the best way I would describe him is honestly like a deep state Republican. Like he has his fingers in all the pies, but he is he is a step back. Right. From I think the day to day. But but he basically came out and said, hey,
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If this trend continues, if we lose these elections, and he was of course speaking on a stage, a lot of people in this room, including myself, are going to jail. And I thought that was just such an incredible thing to say, because in a saner world, that would have been front page news just everywhere and anywhere. And it did get a lot of media coverage, but again, it just kind of part of the circus that is our lives. But this is, this is...
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a big concern for Republicans because a lot of the things that they are doing, and I include the president in this, uh are both very questionably legal and in many cases blatantly unconstitutional. And they have been protected from any sort of repercussions from this by controlling all three houses of uh the government, right?
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lose now if they lose one it's not the end of the world right they're still going to have the Supreme Court for god knows how long and the Senate is very difficult for Democrats and the basic reason behind that if you're wondering why the Senate tends towards Republican majorities over Democrat majorities is that the Senate is the one place in the United States where land can vote right so
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What I mean by that is look at a map of the United States any election. There's about there's a big chunk of the country in the middle. That's just all red all the time. The problem is. You get two senators from each state, regardless of population, so 40 million people in California get two senators and like all four people in Wyoming also get two senators, so two of them are senators. four of them. Jim Bob, Bob, Jim, Jimmy Joe.
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Lauren, that's that's Senator Jimmy Joe. Yeah, right. Yeah. Oh, Oh, man. It's family against family running from the Senate. It gets nasty. uh So there's a structural advantage for Republicans in the Senate because it takes the rural parts of America and gives them more representation than the more populated urban centers. And.
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So it's very hard for the Democrats to get Senate majorities. Now they do from time to time. It's not unheard of. think uh Obama had a Senate majority for one of his terms. And but that structural advantage exists. The House, of course, is on razor thin margins. So the House could flip any given election to any party. uh But if the Republicans, right, if this is a drubbing right at midterms in 2026,
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If the Republicans lose the House, then Trump becomes a bit of a lame duck because he needs Congress's approval for most of his uh legislative agenda. And uh a Democratic uh Congress is not going to allow him to do all of the weirdo stuff that he's been doing and ignore uh Congress's authority.
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If he loses both, then things get really interesting because then actual honest to God impeachment becomes possible. And if that's the case, there was, think Bannon as well as a few other Republicans were beating on about this after the election, that the Democrats could end the Trump presidency in 2026 if he is impeached.
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And I don't want to spoil this for anyone who hasn't been paying a lot of attention. There's a lot of impeachable offenses that Trump has opened himself up to. Numerous conflicts of interest. Whatever the crypto thing is, the jet from Qatar, Qatar, the Qatar. think it is Qatar. Is it Qatar or Qatar? think it's Qatar. Go back. Pretty sure it's Qatar. Qatar. So.
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There's just so many possibilities here and All of this comes at a time when You know the Republicans uh up until Basically today had had just the worst week right because they lose these elections California uh Passes prop 50 which is the congressional redistricting and yeah take that Arnold Schwarzenegger
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That's right. That was kind of the keystone of his time as governor too. yeah, so that's gone now. you know what? I understand it. I realize you have to fight fire with fire. I still don't like it because what they have voted yes to is in essence and quite literally voter suppression for uh redrawing these districts.
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And that hurts American democracy. However, American democracy uh doesn't live in a nice neighborhood anymore, right? It is in crazy town. And uh what are you going to do? Right. uh This is kind of a fight or get beat up situation. Yeah. Look, if you can buy that cheap house on the crack street.
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And knowing that eventually gentrification is coming for your ass, but like you're going to own a gun the whole time. The other thing I will say about Prop 50 is there are time limits and stipulations. So it does come back up as a decision for the people, whether or not to keep it very quickly in regards to like something like this that's being passed. So it's it's not a blanket thing that lasts forever. And I mean, I guess that really just goes as far as your
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trust in the government, but it was part of the vote was that it's not a forever solution and that it can be repealed uh by the people's decision. And I think that's a good compromise because what California had, which was an independent uh congressional redistricting kind of committee, uh is what should
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be going on everywhere, right? That was a really good model and you want to get back to that if we get back to saner times. So yeah, this could add up to five Democratic seats in the House, which is a lot and could really swing the balance of power uh in the House of Representatives. So really, really bad week for Republicans there. Also, one thing that I'll just touch on hasn't been decided yet, but
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Trump's tariffs have reached the Supreme Court and surprisingly the Supreme Court feels uh pretty negatively about Trump's tariffs and if the Supreme Court finds that the tariffs are unconstitutional which I think that seems to be where the mindset of enough judges is then
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We get into just an absolutely uh wild time of the federal government being forced to refund these tariffs. And that is going to be the biggest mess you have ever seen. So it's also uh such a huge part of Trump's policy that this is going to politically
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look very, bad. So that's coming up as well. So the Republicans went from very quickly from being this unstoppable juggernaut uh as a political force to kind of being on the back foot here. And the thing that was really sticking to them was the government shutdown.
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And Democrats had to make this... It's an awful choice. It really is. Because they had to choose to keep fighting, right, for the benefits that people need for Medicare, while at the same time keeping the government shut down, which meant that people were suffering through the, you know...
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through the lack of government programs like SNAP oh and all sorts of other supports. And not that like, know, not having food any time of the year sucks, but the optics of depriving people of food in the month of November in America, a country that more or less treats Thanksgiving bigger than Christmas to the point that they would fight themselves about which one's bigger.
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Is a hard thing to try and stick to yeah Not saying they should have gave up but It's rough. It is rough and I do have some Sympathy there for Senate Democrats in a very very tough situation however They fucked up they fucked up uh Here's the thing the Republican Party is not oh
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a party for the working class. is not a party that concerns itself with the woes of the regular American. It just doesn't. That's not who they represent. uh So the Democrats had an opportunity here. And it's that death of opportunity. They had just won against Trump. know, the Republican Party's on the back foot. They've lost these elections. They lost Prop 50.
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They look like they're going to lose in the Supreme Court and Trump's tariffs are going to be dismantled. That is the biggest win the Democrats have had uh since the Biden presidency. And to fold now, and I understand that people are suffering and I really do get that that is a legitimate and real concern, but
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by folding to the Republicans here, they haven't won any concessions other than the Senate will vote on the ACA subsidies. But of course, the GOP holds a majority. So there's no guarantee that they get anything from that, right? There are some Republicans that may vote with them. But again, that might not be enough. It's a pick your...
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Poisons situation. It's it's in during the suffering. don't eat or Instead of paying a hundred dollars for your medical stuff you're paying a thousand Yeah, and it was it was a The way that it should have been sold was An act of solidarity suffering now for a better future and
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That could have worked because, for one particular reason, the Republicans were wearing this, right? They had been calling it the Democratic shutdown. That hadn't been working. It's hard to sell that to the people when you control all three rungs of the federal government, right? That, these bad Democrats made you shut it down. People weren't buying that. And it was hurting them. And it was starting to really hurt them. And if they could have made it a little bit longer, right, when those, yeah.
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People don't have Thanksgiving dinners. know, air traffic collapses, which was happening in almost real time. And like these are horrible things, but the pain, you're going to feel it either way. That's the killer with this is the Republicans are going to gut the services that you love and you will lose them and you will feel pain. Or you take this principled stand and feel pain, but maybe win.
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And that's what they've given up. And it's so disappointing from a party that is just so frequently disappointing and a party that had for the first time, easily the first time that we've ever talked about on this show, had some real momentum, had some real positive energy associated with it, had a sense of hope and optimism for the first time since Trump took office. And...
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Now we're just back at, we've wasted everyone's time. We've made a of people suffer. and we've pissed into the wind. what this, this was a bipartisan bill that was passed, bipartisan, it was a bill that was passed by the House, and uh House Republicans passed it, not House Democrats. uh But the, it,
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became a bipartisan bill when uh eight Democratic senators stepped in to uh vote with it, to pass it in the Senate. to his small credit, Chuck Schumer did not vote with the Republicans for once. He voted no. However, now there's a lot of calls for his head.
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within the Democratic Party and this this could be the beginning of the end for Schumer which I think Democrats should probably be ecstatic about if not over the moon. has been uh of all the disappointing Democrats maybe the most. uh I don't know Nancy Pelosi could give him a run for his money I suppose. Oh they're that they're they're hand in hand. That's they're they're you know they're the the poster children they're on the they're on the.
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The propaganda poster like holding each other's hands up with flying over, know, like they're on that. Oh, absolutely. But I mean, it sounds weird, but this is a time for a civil war in the Democratic Party. Like you want to stand for something? Now's your chance. Absolutely. And that's a good point, because we've seen there's strength in the progressive movement in the Democratic Party. People are.
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responding to that like Again, so Han gave you of the playbook to win. He did did it's very easy. So You said you don't mess with the story Yeah, so he gives you this this beautiful playbook this beautiful progressive policy playbook Take it and run with it You can you have to remake this party
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No one no one is interested in the classic liberal corporate Democrat who's you know there to make a saxophone and tries to fuck his interns exactly it's not cool anymore not cool anymore guys although I will say it's the economy stupid still applies but you just switch that out for its affordability stupid and you're there that's that's the program uh
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But yeah, so anyway, this agreement that they've come to, so it funds parts of the government, specifically the Food Aid, SNAP, veterans programs, the legislative branch, among some other things. And all other funding will be extended until the end of January. So that will give them
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a little over two months, not including Christmas breaks and stuff, uh to finish additional spending bills to keep the government running. This is the sad thing about all of this, is that we don't solve government shutdowns in the United States. What they do is get together and kick the can as far as they can, and then...
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We do it all over again three months, six months, nine months, a year later, right? Yeah, the problem is when both parties are like so obsessed with money, they're showing up with a new set of golf clubs. We ain't kicking that can. We're bringing out the forewood, knocking that thing straight down the fairway. So, yeah, so nothing has been solved here uh in terms of actual agreements on the budget. What we've decided is, oh, no, we actually need the federal government.
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that do a lot of really important stuff. So let's fund that until the next time we're really mad at each other and we can't reach an agreement on spending. not to put too fine a point on it, but it's this kind of dysfunction that causes, it's not a symptom, it is a cause of this inability of the United States to take
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consistent long-term action to really plan for the future because everything is done on almost this this corporate quarterly, you know every three to four months Things have to get redone budgets have to get redone. This isn't normal amongst liberal democracies this isn't how liberal democracies function properly and The longer that this goes on the longer that you have You know this this can kicking down the road with budgets and things
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the worse and worse your services are going to get because you can't plan ahead. You can't plan for making equipment upgrades. You know, you can't plan like five, 10 years in the future to head off problems that you see coming down the road. This is the kind of stuff that declines are made of, you know, national declines. so there's a lot here to not like.
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about this government shutdown and the result here. uh It's not entirely, of course, on the Democrats. It mostly isn't, but their capitulation here has put the party in a worse place than it was before all of this started because they wasted a lot of time, a lot of damage was done to the federal government. uh And we made history that this is the longest shutdown ever.
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Woo, yay capitalism. But we gain nothing. We gain nothing from it except that a lot of people suffered now seemingly needlessly. this leaves us in a spot where the Democrats had the initiative for a week, forfeited it again. But there's still a lot of
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things to be hopeful. If you're a progressive, if you're a supporter of the Democrats, or if you just think the Democrats are the better of two bad options. The Supreme Court, of all places, ah might throw you the biggest win of the year if they strike down Trump's tariffs. We've talked about AIPA on the show, Trump's emergency powers that he uses to levy these tariffs.
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And if those are curtailed, that is going to do such a number on Trump's ability to govern by emergency action. And that is desperately needed to rein in the power of the executive. So I guess get out your little like Supreme court flags, you know, little number one foam.
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uh things and you know grab some popcorn and hope that somehow in some way the Supreme Court decides that maybe giving Trump every single power wasn't the best idea and maybe they need to to rein that in a little bit. So you do have things to be hopeful for and you know what let's we'll end on a good note and say if you are one of the 42 million Americans the one in eight
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Americans the one in five children who relies on food aid to to Make you know yourself and your family to give them the nutrition that they need to give them the food that they need That's coming back and that's a positive either, know, despite the Democrats not doing what What we wanted them to do what we needed them to do that's still a bonus and that it's coming back in time for
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American holidays, Thanksgiving, Christmas, where, you know, you just want to get together and feel good with friends and family. Oh, that that's something that's something got to eat to stay healthy, stay healthy to stay out of the hospital, because trust me, you're not going to be able to afford it come next year. No, you're not. And that's kind of the other side of it. So but I do agree with Nathan. It is like it's.
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It would be too easy for us to sit here and just be like, oh, those bastards that they all caved and look that they're still bastards like fuck Tim Kane. He fucking he can eat a big one. You know, like they're like, that's just the one name of the eight that like did it. So I'm just like, no, like they had nothing to lose. None of them are up for any reelection. Like anytime soon, like they're not. No, they're like a complete burn for them like to do this. And, know,
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There just doesn't seem to be, you know, there's no way to like back up the way that the MAGA does on to just being like, no, it's got to be five D chess. They must be playing five D chess like, no, they don't. They just just were like, oh crap. Oh, we have we have donors to book. Yeah. And that being said, like, yeah, I'm not going to sit here and be like, oh, well, this was the worst fucking thing ever. No, it is good that those people got their food back. I mean, we were.
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clearly very sympathetic to it on the last episode and posted a bunch of resources. I'm glad people are going to be able to eat this Thanksgiving in America. It's a good thing, regardless of who you voted for. And for all those federal employees that weren't getting paychecks. Yeah. Get your back pay. Have a good Thanksgiving. Soldiers lined up at food banks and stuff like that. Like it's it was crazy. So it's like, you know, this is good that it's at least moving forward. But they've.
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Really set you up for a real hard push And that's yeah ready for that. So, you know More elections I'm sure coming up that you really want to be involved in and and some other things and you know And and there's been a couple other wins the Supreme Court decided not to overturn gay marriage Mm-hmm. I'm I'm a little cynical I think that they only decided not to overturn gay marriage because of the other thing that they overturned
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Because as you were saying, that's going to cost a shitload of money. like the overturning the tariffs, which they might do cost a shitload of money. Guess how much money and clerical bullshit you're going to have to go through if you overturn gay marriage. I had no idea. Like insane. But I mean, maybe they'll do it because he'll be like, look, I create jobs. We divorce the gays. You can come get a job. need more.
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We need more Kim Davises in our life. We need more of them. They're willing to have three husbands. I've had three or four wives myself. I call it divorce polygamy.
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All right, well, you know what? I think we're gonna call it there for this week. Just an interesting little trip through the news and uh what might occur because of these things. But uh one thing we do wanna mention before we go is that we are gonna be taking a uh break here until the New Year's. We're gonna be uh looking at some new fun ways to uh bring you the show and some different...
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things to try out and so that should be really- can't some guests, more guests. We had Gabby. Gabby, I think we maybe probably should have planned a better episode for someone with international development degree. But she, you know, was still fun nonetheless and I missed working with her on Video Cult with the three of us worked together. So it was nice to get the gang back for that one. But my God, an hour and 17 minute episode.
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For P &A! Really long. Also, that was just what I edited it down to. We went off. uh But yeah, maybe some more guests, some different ways to bring things. And yeah, over this next little bit, uh if anything truly bananas crazy happens...
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We'll definitely be jumping in for like a little little update episode. So we're not completely going away shows not canceled or anything. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you know, there's uh clearly if you follow most haunted most stuff, you'll notice that this is essentially a radio station in the 1930s. There's eight of us just real cross pollination happening here. So we have lots of other things we have to do, but we're still going to be popping in. And then I would say
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Yeah, towards the end of January, you will have us back in full force. If you absolutely need to hear my voice, and I understand if you do, check out the Bedtime Storybook. Very much nothing like this podcast, which is nice. very soothing. Very soothing, classic children's stories done with beautiful music and effects and just a very nice calm time. And we could all use that, I think.
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So if you want to hear if you want to hear me more and hear me swear in ways that you didn't know was possible, you can go check out BoobTube. I'm the producer on that. So I'm often kind of a side voice to the show um and and also one of our upcoming shows that I don't know if we've maybe talked about a little bit. It's called Six Society. So the first inkling.
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of Sick Society is going to be happening on BoobNews, where uh the host, co-host, uh one of the hosts, I guess, I don't know how you want to say it. I don't want to put anyone above anyone else. But one of the co-hosts of the new podcast that's coming next year, Sick Society, Alexis Payton, she is going to be on BoobNews talking about the kind of different, know, bunk medical advice and things that are on reality TV and giving us her insights.
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And she's very smart and is a doctor, has a doctorate and is a university professor. So she does know what she's talking about. yeah, check out sick society in the new year. We're going to give you plenty of notice and plenty of advertising for that. But that show talks about all of the things in our world outside of the medical field and outside of your control that seriously affect.
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our health and how we live and, and, uh, you know, how we move through the world and whether or not, you know, we, live to, to 60 or to 80. And, uh, so yeah, absolutely check that one out. It's going to be good. But yeah, not, not a, like, uh, you need to use crystals, like frou frou, like, uh, health thing, like no actual.
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Actual doctor stuff going on here about how you should be treating yourself. So yeah, very good. But yeah Yeah, so a little bit of a look forward but thank you so much whether this is your first episode or if you've listened to all of our episodes and you psychopath Yeah, yeah, I just just sitting there being like I remember what it was about the Smithsonian. Yeah. Oh man that was
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saner times back in the spring. But yeah, we do appreciate you and I hope you have a lovely holiday season, whether that's Thanksgiving, Christmas, any and all of the holidays that fall under the next couple of months and we will see you in the new year. Get up some yule stuff. Oh, I love yule Gotta go to the beach and watch the sun come up or something. I don't know what witches do. All right, folks.
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Thanks again and we'll see you next year.
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