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Bart, Lindsey and guest, Billie Worley, discuss Don Coscarelli's 2002, mummy vs Elvis horror comedy, Bubba Ho-Tep. We're talking Bruce Campbell as Elvis and Ossie Davis as JFK, who both reside in a Mud Creek, Texas convalescence home, while a soul sucking mummy has arrived and starts feasting on the souls of the home's residents. With appearances by Coscarelli regular, Reggie Bannister (Phantasm), Rob Zombie veteran, Daniel Roebuck (The Munsters), and a killer scarab, courtesy of KNB EFX, this peculiar film is a bonafide head scratcher!
Creators and Guests
Host
Host
Lindsey Roberts
Lindsey Roberts is a film, commercial and theatre actress, who has appeared in over 20 films including Hustle and Flow and Craig Brewer's breakthrough film, The Poor and Hungry. Her extensive theatre roles have included Velma in Chicago, Tanya in Mamma Mia, Nancy in Oliver and multiple years as Pan in Peter Pan.
What is Die Laughing?
You'd be hard pressed to find a more divisive sub-genre of horror than horror-comedy. Those who hate it, really, really hate it. But for those of us who love horror as much as we love comedy, there is something truly special about a film that manages to combine these two genres into a perfect blend.
On the Die Laughing podcast, hosts Bart Shannon, Lindsey Roberts and a weekly special guest, take a tour through some of the best and worst entries in the horror comedy field!
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LR Got a question.
speaker-1 (00:02.936)
GB Yeah, I've got an answer.
speaker-0 (00:06.766)
What's your thought on mummies?
speaker-1 (00:08.802)
Love them. In fact, they're kind of endearing to me. I will always think of my son Jackson, but here's why. So when we went to Paris and we went to the Louvre and everything we're passing, he's like, Yeah, Mona Lisa, yeah, whatever, yeah. I hear there's a real mummy in this place and we're going to find it. And I was like, Noted, got it. I've got a great picture of him beside the mummy with his little arms crossed, and he was like, It's here. He was so excited. So
I'm here for a mummy story. Yep.
speaker-0 (00:40.344)
We got a mummy, we got horror legends, we've got civil rights icons, we've got directors of classic horror films, as well as a guest who we both love dearly and have worked with loads of times. And let's stop fucking around and let's jump right into this little shindig.
speaker-1 (01:03.438)
Well this absolutely sounds like it's gonna be legendary. I can't wait for it. Welcome to another episode of Die Laughing.
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Take it away.
speaker-0 (01:31.406)
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey Lindsay Roberts.
speaker-1 (01:38.414)
Hey, hey, hey Bunchana.
speaker-0 (01:42.86)
I'm having the strangest sense of deja vu, but we'll soldier through. Good to see you, my friend. Hey, hey.
speaker-1 (01:49.878)
It's good to see you too. Maybe you had a nightmare about the start of this episode or something before. I don't know.
speaker-0 (01:56.166)
I I have to say about this movie and about this week's show, this guest, this movie, this show, I've been very excited about this one for a while. Mm-hmm. Two different reasons. The movie for its own reason, the guest, just because he's somebody that you and I worked with a lot and love working with. But yeah, this has been one I've been excited about movie wise because I remember seeing a theater and I remember having high expectations. And I'm not gonna say that.
the expectations were not met, but they were definitely different than than what I had going in. And so I I had a little perspective seeing it this time than I did when it first came out.
speaker-1 (02:35.958)
Yeah. Yeah. I saw it in the theater as well and again excited. I love everyone in it. I'm excited because of the subject. I'm just I'm ready to go. So I was really excited about it. Came out thinking that happened. Look at that. Was a movie. And I I liked it, but I'm I don't think it was what I thought it was gonna be.
speaker-0 (03:00.44)
Same. And I'm not sure what I thought it was gonna be and why my expectations were the way they were. But but we'll get into that in a little bit. So let's yeah, let's just go ahead and get started. It almost feels like we've done this before. You know what I let's well fuck it. We'll just put this in podcast. You know, we just spent half an hour talking about the first thirty minutes of the show and realized that I was in a mode that you can't record. So yeah, for the first time, Bart fucked up at the beginning and so we're redoing this podcast.
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speaker-1 (03:29.474)
Listen, it's just, you know, it is what it is. I'm here for it. That means I get to spend more time with you two lovely folks and that makes me really happy because I love spending time with both of you both of you guys. Do we wanna introduce the movie again?
speaker-0 (03:46.018)
Yes, let's introduce the movie again. Yeah.
speaker-1 (03:48.504)
Yes, absolutely. I'll say it again. It's two thousand and two, two thousand and three. There's a discrepancy, I think, you know, between festival release and theatrical release, but two thousand and two, two thousand and three's Bubba Hotep.
speaker-0 (04:01.976)
Yes. Don Coscarelli, based on a novella by Joe R. Lansdale. Don Coscarelli, obviously to horror fans, the guy behind the Phantasm movies. But yeah, Bubba Hotep, Bruce Campbell, and Ossie Davis. Mm-hmm.
speaker-1 (04:18.122)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm very excited about our guest today. Very, very excited.
speaker-0 (04:21.998)
I'm very excited about our our guest today as well. We had a better transition earlier, but let's just jump into this so we can talk about this and get this rolling. Not because we're pressed for time now, just because that's what we do. So our guest today is somebody that Lindsay and I both worked with an enormous amount over the years in many capacities. He is a brilliant producer, a brilliant actor. Yeah, you've played his wife probably two or three times, I
speaker-1 (04:48.878)
Three times. I've played his baby mama. Yeah. We've been in all kinds of relationships. And I think I was saying before, we have at least two or three movies in our mind that we've made that have actually never seen the light of day or been written or filmed. but we're excited to maybe eventually make those movies together.
speaker-0 (05:06.616)
We have done commercials together, short films, feature films, corporate stuff. I I can't think of a type of film production that we have not done. well, porn, I mean, I guess. Short of snuff and porn. I can't think of any other genre I'd rather work in with this person. Yeah, and maybe one of us can agree, like, when it's time to take the big dirt nap, that we just get it on film and we check one of those off their list. How about that?
speaker-1 (05:21.25)
There's still time.
speaker-0 (05:32.332)
Maybe I'll write it into my will, a looking for Mr. Good Bar. And that way you you guys can have sex with me, murder me, and then film it. What do you think about that? All right, this is going off the rails. Let's bring our guest on. Just amazingly talented person, a great friend, somebody we both love dearly. Let's bring on Billy Worley. Hey, Billy.
speaker-2 (05:56.142)
Thank you so much. That's been really great. That was a great introduction.
speaker-0 (06:01.086)
Billy's being facetious because I asked people not to yell.
speaker-2 (06:07.106)
Last time the first time, take two, I yelled. And so I thought I'm gonna do a different choice this time as an actor.
speaker-1 (06:14.048)
It's a solid choice.
speaker-0 (06:16.536)
Give us some options, Billy. Just give us some options.
speaker-2 (06:18.862)
Yeah, yeah. Well, thank you for that introduction. That was very lovely and yes, we have worked together so much outside of snuff and porn. Now that you say it like that, I you know, I never thought of it. I'm disappointed. We had a lot of time together.
speaker-1 (06:32.169)
That we haven't done that.
speaker-0 (06:33.462)
I what are we trying to hide at this point?
speaker-2 (06:35.33)
Hey, I think we always say this, a job's a job.
speaker-0 (06:37.806)
Yeah. That's right. It you know, and and if if we can't get someone to pay us to do snuff or porn, then it it's technically just a passion project.
speaker-2 (06:48.952)
Which we have worked on that as well. So that's great. but thank you guys so much.
speaker-0 (06:53.944)
Thank you for being here. So Billy, what is your history with today's movie?
speaker-2 (07:00.034)
Yes. So my history is I went and saw it in the movie theater when it came out. I was living in Los Angeles. I was a huge Bruce Campbell fan from the Evil Dead series. And a friend of mine was also even more fanatical about him. So we went to Chinese Gram Theater to see it. And I'm just scrubbing that in Lizzie's face again for a second. That's great. But no, I just went to theater and I think same as you. I you know, went in with a kind of high expectations because of my love of Evil Dead and I think from the trailer it seemed sort of in the same sort of
mode is that sort of dry humor that that Bruce Campbell is known for. And then I remember leaving just thinking, was that good? I I think it was that was good, right? That was good. It's kinda like, you know, it it's happened twice in my life. Bubba Ho tap and Eyes Wide Shut. I had to go back to the theater because I was like, surely I missed something. And then I walked out again going, I I don't think maybe it's not great.
speaker-0 (07:47.513)
Ha ha.
speaker-1 (07:52.014)
Totally. A hundred percent. Like you're like and I think it's also like a weird thing where you're like, I really just wanted to be obsessed with it and so I I wasn't but that doesn't mean it's not good. It absolutely is, right? Like I just I don't know, there was there's some sort of level of expectation.
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Yes.
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That's right. I totally agree.
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Maybe couldn't have met it. You know what I mean? Like my expectations were so high. Right.
speaker-0 (08:18.606)
Agree. I think that's what it was too. It's just like, I'm trying to think on I don't think I had seen another Bruce Campbell vehicle after the Evil Dead trilogy. I mean, where he's the star that I can think of, and he was in smaller parts. So I think for a lot of us that were Evil Dead fans, it was sort of like Bruce is back and his starring role. And so we had huge expectations. Right. He met. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. He a hundred percent met them. I'm not sure what else he could have done.
speaker-1 (08:41.037)
Which he met.
speaker-2 (08:48.332)
Yeah, you're right. He didn't he didn't do a bad job and he did kind of like I mean, I know he couldn't do like the straight up evil dead character, but you could kind of see his subtleties dialed back from that. That's still that Bruce Campbell humor.
speaker-1 (09:01.326)
It's a very layered performance and we can get into it later when we kinda talk more about him. But he it he's actually very good in it. He and Aussie Davis, I mean, they're both really great.
speaker-2 (09:11.926)
And Barton, like you said in the first kick, I mean he He's also playing like Elvis or an Elvis Imperson, you know. So like the stars for me were like totally lined up for this to be like a slam dunk.
speaker-1 (09:27.416)
Was that a line reading, Billy?
speaker-2 (09:29.43)
I was trying to remember what we said in the first day because I wanted to get it in.
speaker-0 (09:34.382)
I mean, Evil Dead expectations, let me rephrase that, Evil Dead Heights. That's a little silly on our parts to be expecting that, you know? And not to discredit Don Coscarelli, but Phantasm is Phantasm. And I think we've talked about it in previous podcasts where it's like, it's a classic, but woo, it's it's rough, you know. They kind of hit found lightning in the bottle with the the old dude and the and the trailer as well. I remember seeing the trailer as a young kid and just thinking, this is creepy as fuck.
but yeah, this is not Sam Raimi. This is not this is not a superstar director who's gonna take this vehicle. So before we shit on it anymore,
speaker-2 (10:15.406)
but I liked it. Yeah.
speaker-0 (10:17.326)
Exactly. Let's watch the trailer and then we can come back and and discuss it a little more in depth.
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I have gone from the king of rock and roll to this, old guy in a rest home.
speaker-1 (11:07.47)
You were an Elvis impersonator. Broke your hip? Who was it? Twenty years ago.
speaker-0 (11:10.434)
You fell off the stage and
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That's where they took a piece of my brain. I got a little bag of sand up there now. They dyed me this color. What we have here, shady rest, is an Egyptian soul sucker of some sort. Some of a hotel. You know, a mummy hiding out, feeding on the sleeping.
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Jack, President Kennedy was a white man.
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He can just keep on feeding unless he's finally destroyed.
speaker-2 (11:46.329)
Mm.
speaker-0 (11:52.91)
man, let's go.
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We use my stuff on you, baby.
speaker-0 (12:28.472)
See, now I see why our expectations were high, because it's an excellent trailer.
speaker-1 (12:32.866)
Yeah. It really is. It's
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Yeah. It's a very well done trailer. It's like they fit in all the all the good stuff.
speaker-1 (12:39.064)
Yeah. Yeah. It truly was. Yeah, all the good stuff are in that trailer. It's tight. It's action packed. It has all the elements that you need in there. You realize Bruce and Aussie and it's scary and there's a mummy and what's happening. I mean, like the explosions in there. You know, I mean like it's really well done as a trailer.
speaker-0 (12:59.562)
It also it kinda reminds you right away it's like the trailer is a trailer, but the pace of the movie is pretty slow.
speaker-1 (13:06.19)
It is. You're right. Yeah, it is.
speaker-2 (13:08.14)
I mean that first that first twenty or twenty five, you're like, Whoa, we're like this is a piece of art.
speaker-0 (13:13.292)
Yeah, the first twenty minutes is all set it's all set up.
speaker-2 (13:16.418)
Yeah, real delicate, slow so Yeah. Yeah.
speaker-0 (13:18.296)
But yeah, let's just get started. Again again.
speaker-1 (13:21.078)
Yeah.
speaker-2 (13:22.488)
Can we just double check right now? Do you have a red light?
speaker-0 (13:25.058)
Yeah, we're good. We're good. Movie opens with on screen captions that remind us that Hotep was a descendant of the 17 Egyptian dynasties and the surname of an Egyptian pharaoh. And that Bubba means a southern male, good old boy, cracker, redneck, trailer park resident. So right off the bat, you kind of get a sense of what kind of movie this is going to be.
we then cut to an old black and white newsreel of the discovery and unearthing of King Amon Hotep's tomb, an old German newsreel, and in the end it's a German voiceover saying the mummy will be coming to a museum near you.
speaker-1 (14:06.496)
Right. Which you say to your s like when I saw it, I was like, Okay, so are we gonna see it at a museum or is that museum where we're in the town where we're go like it just I don't know. It's like it just doesn't even really by the end of the movie you're like, This didn't connect Really? Yeah, I don't know. It just was kinda weird to me.
speaker-0 (14:24.202)
It gave it away too much for me.
speaker-2 (14:25.806)
Yeah.
speaker-1 (14:26.879)
I see.
speaker-0 (14:28.234)
Maybe the first time I saw it it didn't stick like it did this time, but this time it was sort of a reminder, like, yeah, okay, that's what this is. The yeah, the the mummy ends up in Texas and that's why it's happening. Because I could not at all before I saw that remember why there was a mummy at this nursing home in a small town in Texas.
speaker-2 (14:44.78)
Yeah. Right. Same same for me. The exactly the same. Yeah. And I think the first time I watched it too, Lindsay, I didn't quite put it together so quickly. But once you kinda get in the story, we'll get into it, but the how how the mummy, you know, gets there was like, right. They said that in the I think yeah, they it in the beginning. Right.
speaker-1 (15:01.738)
But it it takes you a while to get there, you know. So it's it's a little off putting of a transition, I think, maybe.
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Very next shot, we see an old two bed per room facility with grimy walls, iron bed frames, and a sleeping resident rolls over towards camera, and we meet our main character played by Bruce Campbell. With narration, our protagonist tells us that he was dreaming, and in his dream, his dick was out, and he was checking to see if the bump on the head of it had filled with pus again. And if it had.
The narrator tells us he was gonna name the bump after his ex-wife Scylla and bust it by jacking off. He says dreams make you think things like that, but truth is he hadn't had a hard on in years. ew.
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WHASY WHO BAM MROF! MERO
speaker-1 (15:55.898)
Yeah, there's no easing into it. There's no lube. You just you just get fucked right there at the start. You just jump right in.
speaker-0 (16:03.295)
There's less pussy dick talk later. It's just it's a little it's a little pussy dick heavy at the beginning.
speaker-2 (16:09.238)
It's called the first act, kids. The first act.
speaker-1 (16:11.32)
That's right. The lube comes in later in some form of goo.
speaker-2 (16:17.432)
God. Yeah, it's true. Okay. So yes.
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With Dix behind us, Bruce Campbell looks over to the old man in the bed next to him who is coughing something fierce. Bruce Campbell reaches over to the bedside table, grabs his glasses, and puts them on, and that's when we see his whole look put together. His glasses are Elvis glasses. He's got this really messy pompador. He's got a TCB gold pinky ring. So we know right away this guy's either an impersonator or he just loves Elvis. Or who knows? Maybe he is Elvis. We don't know yet. We don't know.
speaker-1 (16:50.914)
Yeah, right. The makeup is a little off putting. I don't know, just like the sometimes he's got freckles, sometimes he doesn't. Sometimes there's hair on his f face and it just the prosthetic chin. Even the guy like dying next to him in the bed, it's just like they were like just they got some kind of theater Ben Nye kit and they were like clown white around the lips and black underneath the eyes. You know, I mean it's just no blending necessary. I don't know. I wish the makeup would have been
better and we talk about that later when they show the mummy, it's actually the really cool. I think they did a great job with that. So I'm like, Well could you did you not have a blending brush? What happened?
speaker-2 (17:30.466)
The entire budget went to the mummy.
speaker-0 (17:32.174)
Bruce is very greasy a lot of the time too with that with a heavy makeup on. And I thought the continuity was a little muddy as well on the old Elvis, not just back and forth the young Elvis or old Elvis, but Bruce as an old Elvis, sometimes sometimes his lamb chops were gray, sometimes they weren't there.
speaker-1 (17:49.566)
Yeah, I don't know why the inconsistency actually the film was shot in like 30 days. So how could they get it that route? You forgot? And the guy in the bed dying next to him, I you know, we had kind of talked about it's Harrison Young. He's been in everything he was in House of a Thousand Corpses. Yeah. Like he was in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. He was in Saving Private Ryan. Yeah. He plays Ryan as the old man. Yeah.
speaker-2 (17:56.878)
Yeah. Yeah.
speaker-1 (18:17.452)
He's like been in a thousand movies. I'm like, s y we couldn't give this guy a couple of lines.
speaker-2 (18:22.706)
No, no, man. But we'll get him. We got the guy, but we don't give him any lines. We give you that kind of theatrical makeup look and you just die.
speaker-1 (18:30.956)
Your mediocre actress daughter now she'll get a load of lines, but you
speaker-2 (18:37.502)
Yeah.
speaker-0 (18:38.614)
Maybe it was a favor. He was in it as a favor. Yeah. Bruce Campbell raises up in his bed and the narration says, my God, man, how long have I been here? He wonders if Priscilla discovered if I was alive, would she come and see me? Is there finally anything in life really besides food, sex, and shit? He looks at his reflection in a handheld mirror and he says, Well, god damn it, how could I have gone from the king of rock and roll to this? Old guy in a rest home in East Texas with a growth on his pecker.
Just wanted to nail that Pecker thing one more time, before we moved on to something else. It's like
speaker-2 (19:12.61)
Just wanna get that mental image to the audience. Just put it in there. Let's end this scene with a bang.
speaker-0 (19:19.438)
Plenty of arguments of the script. no, trust me, you're gonna need more pecker. Gotta gotta have more pecker in there.
speaker-1 (19:25.75)
Right. So apparently he that was something that Bruce asked, like when he read the script, he was like, Are you gonna show the penis?
speaker-0 (19:32.886)
Thank God. If I were Bruce Campbell, I would yes, that would have been my first question as well. It's like there's a there's a lot of penis, a lot of touching of my penis. Are we are we gonna have to subject an audience to my penis?
speaker-1 (19:42.508)
And if we do, can I choose the penis?
speaker-2 (19:45.269)
Yeah.
speaker-0 (19:45.58)
Yes. And can I pick the pusfield bump?
Right away, thankfully, we get out of Dick World for a flashback, the king on stage performing before adoring fans, Bruce Campbell as the king, that is. We cut back to the room and Elvis is in bed wondering what the growth on his Pecker is as the again, they g they give us three mentions of the the Pussville Packer.
speaker-2 (20:09.878)
Everything in threes. You you know the rule. Everything in threes.
speaker-0 (20:12.59)
It's referred to as the Packer rule. I don't know if you knew that.
Man in the bed next to him, who you guys were just talking about, he screams in pain, looks over at Elvis. We're gonna call Bruce Campbell Elvis from here on out. He looks at Elvis, tries to speak before keeling over dead. He dies. Cut to an exterior of the Mud Creek, Shady Rest, convalescence home, hearse parked outside. A couple of funeral home attendants load the body into the hearse, and one of them is played by Daniel Robuck. Roebuck, he's been in a ton of stuff. Work.
Four years in T V and film. he was a he's been in six Rob Zombie films, speaking of Rob Zombie. wow. But he also played, coincidentally, another person with a large chin, much like Bruce Campbell. He played Jay Leno in that late shift movie about the battle between Letterman and Leno for the fight over the Tonai show. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was him. I remember even at the time thought he was an odd choice, but I thought he did really well with this big fake prosthetic chan on his Jay Leno. Yeah.
speaker-2 (21:17.4)
Yeah, yeah, he did. He did.
speaker-1 (21:19.03)
Yeah, he's been in everything.
speaker-2 (21:21.614)
It gets like probably s you know, like a hundred residual checks a a week, you know, like just so and still working. It's like
speaker-1 (21:27.948)
He's played a cop a few times like you, Billy.
speaker-2 (21:30.318)
Yeah. You know, it's just being able to put those hands on your belt, you stand there looking like Yeah, I hate my life.
You know, but I I speaking of those s scenes, 'cause they they do it again in threes, like it's just so like I don't know th I'm not saying that's unnecessary, but but they're strange, those scenes with the the more workers bringing the bodies out to the you know, they're I know they're supposed to maybe be like funny, but are they? They're not
speaker-1 (22:04.814)
Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and tell you right now, Billy, they're not.
speaker-0 (22:08.47)
Yeah. And they get a little more outlandish each of the three times. The comedy does not build.
speaker-2 (22:11.82)
Yes, they they build, yeah.
speaker-1 (22:17.622)
No. And the thing is is like you you have to think about like what's the purpose of it, right? As the writer, director, you know, you're like, well, okay, we've got to set up this thing of they're in a nursing home. These people are would naturally be dying anyway. There's a conversation about, you know, these people dying and what kind of legacy are they leaving. You know, I mean, so there's some dialogue that happens in there where you're like
Okay, I can kinda see that, but at the same time it's like I g I got that anyway, thanks.
speaker-0 (22:52.074)
Yeah. one of them says it makes you wonder the life this old guy had. Look at him now. The other tenant just says, Who gives a shit? It's like, okay, cool.
speaker-1 (23:00.003)
Yeah. It was like Friday the thirteenth at part six, but the there ended up being a real reason why you needed those hearse drivers, you know, and that, but it just is it's just as off putting.
speaker-0 (23:12.33)
And he's Daniel Robeck. He was in one of the Phantasm movies and another Coscarelli film as well. So probably said, Hey, do have a day to shoot these three? we cut to an old lady walking down the hallway of the nursing home at night, and she comes upon what the fuck? She comes upon this iron lung that's just parked out. Iron lung
speaker-2 (23:22.242)
Yeah.
speaker-0 (23:38.562)
Hallway walks over to this old lady who's an iron lung and starts stroking her hair lovingly, then pulls her glasses off and steals her glasses. The lady's like, Hey, hey! She just walks away with her glasses. And my guess is someone had an iron lung. And they were like, Yes. Hey, do you d someone's who's got an iron lung we could use? Do you need it? What in the
speaker-1 (24:03.63)
We can add it.
speaker-2 (24:06.036)
I remember seeing that in this and I mean I don't remember it from the first watch, but this watch and I thought like, wow, they had to go out and find the iron log. That's that's you know, as a producer somebody knows the ins and outs of procuring things. Like, wow, that's a big ask, I think. So I think you're right. Somebody had that at their house.
speaker-1 (24:22.35)
Yeah, right. Hey, do you wanna use this in the movie? Hey, let me write that in.
speaker-0 (24:26.17)
And here's my guess, it was parked in the hallway because they probably couldn't fit it through the door and they're like, Well, it's we're just gonna be leave it in the hallway.
speaker-2 (24:33.046)
It lives here now. Yes, yes. You're absolutely right, Bart. It's like it was too wide.
speaker-1 (24:37.366)
Is that a Craigslist ask? Is that what is that?
speaker-2 (24:42.03)
Facebook marketplace. I was looking feverishly for an
speaker-0 (24:44.898)
Iron lung. I don't know if you guys have seen the documentary or any of the interviews with the guy who just died a few years ago, the last living iron lung person who got a degree from college by doing frog breathing. So you can gulp air by swallowing. So he would swallow air into his lungs and he went to college by doing frog breathing and then would go home and get back in his iron lung. He just died at like in his late seventies a couple of years ago. Fascinating story. Yeah, frog breathing.
speaker-2 (25:14.338)
That's wild. I have not that's great.
speaker-1 (25:16.328)
Is wild. Whoa.
speaker-2 (25:19.31)
Frog breathing. I'm gonna look up some YouTube videos on this.
speaker-0 (25:22.518)
And he's, you know, as you would expect anyone who's laid on their back most of their life who's not pleasant to look at. Dissolved from the lady stealing the glasses from the Iron Lung character to her walking in the hall and seeing a table with some presents and some flowers, and she steals a ten of chocolates from the table and takes them back to her room. The next scene she's in her room eating the chocolates and she hears a fluttering sound.
speaker-2 (25:28.888)
speaker-1 (25:34.126)
Yeah.
speaker-0 (25:51.468)
And looks down at the floor to see this large scarab run under her bed. Then she sees a large lump under her bedspread and says, I'm gonna squash you, you cockroach, and reaches under the bedspread, grimaces, and then pulls out her hand and is covered in blood. She screams, rolls off the bed onto the floor. She pulls out her cane and hits the lump under her bed with her cane, lifts the sheets to see the scarab is still alive, and then it's little
Head raises up. I thought it was a cool scene. Yeah, the head the head raises up. And then at the same time, it makes her look across the room as the shadowy figure stands up in the corner of her room and she screams. And then we cut away and we cut to Elvis asleep in his bed. He wakes up to a moaning sound and sees the old lady laying in his doorway. And she says, Help me, right before she's dragged away. What that thought that was a cool shot.
And yanks her up.
speaker-1 (26:49.058)
It was a cool shot. Yeah.
speaker-0 (26:51.621)
he puts on his elvis glasses to see and nothing's there. So I th I guess he just assumes he was dreaming and he goes back to sleep.
speaker-1 (26:59.126)
also love that he needs his Elvis glasses to see. On no planet would you ever take those to an eye doctor and say, I need my prescription put in these. They'd be like, What? But like if he's gonna see, he's gotta have his glasses, which is great because his whole demeanor really I don't know, as Bruce Campbell doesn't really work without the glasses. When we see yeah, when we see him later.
speaker-0 (27:03.402)
yeah.
speaker-1 (27:24.182)
You know, I mean it's the glasses that kind of finish everything. So them saying he's gotta have the glasses on at all times. So they just said, Let's just make them prescription.
speaker-0 (27:32.334)
The only thing that would have made it funnier is if they were bifocals. And so they were Elvis glasses with the little bottom part that's it's got the the reader section. Yes.
speaker-2 (27:40.266)
Yeah, so you can you can read it you can read the stock prices the next morning in bed. Well I can say that just from the jump, that little old lady, I didn't like the way she walked down the hallway towards the Iron Long. I didn't like she took the ladies' glasses. I didn't like she took all the cho just take a couple chocolates, lady. She took the whole tin.
speaker-0 (27:58.35)
and her room her room was filled with stuffed animals and dogs which were obviously stolen.
speaker-2 (28:02.934)
Stolen, stolen, little klepto. I was like, I this couldn't happen to a nicer woman.
speaker-1 (28:08.59)
This ending. Yeah, the creepy dolls in her room were yeah, a whole thing. But yeah, that shot of her with her hands on the side of the door and she's laying sideways on the ground, just her head like sticking out of the bottom and she says, Help me, and then gets like pulled away. So it's really good and super creepy. Yeah. Yeah. And also good written's bitch.
speaker-0 (28:28.162)
Yep. Adios and Buchaco. Cut to an exterior mud creek shady rest home. Convalescence home. And guess who we get again? We get our funeral home attendants with their hearse outside. The same attendants from previously. They're loading her body into the hearse. And some complete throwaway lines here. Completely. And then I can't remember what even the setup line is, but it's just you use a can of deodorizer because she stinks something awful.
speaker-2 (28:48.631)
My God.
speaker-1 (28:55.106)
Yeah, he's like he says something and he's like, are you about to wax poetic on me again? And he said, No, just get some deodorant. This lady stinks and I'm like, Why? Why? And also she probably stole deodorant while she was there. She'd probably be the sweet smelling is old lady there.
speaker-2 (29:11.51)
I just thought of something. I think what those two actors in that scene, what what why they're written and that they're like the Timu, Abbott and Costello. Like they're supposed to be doing like the who's on first bit. But it just falls in the bell short. Yep. You know.
speaker-0 (29:28.793)
Way short.
speaker-1 (29:30.21)
Machine version.
speaker-2 (29:32.63)
Yeah. But I think do you think like looking back now that we know the whole s you know, we've seen the movie and we know the whole story, do you think that the stinky thing of her has to do with how the zombie takes the soul out of somebody?
speaker-0 (29:46.798)
I didn't know. I was wondering like I d I couldn't find a connection.
speaker-2 (29:50.446)
'Cause you know, any hole can get a soul out. Yeah. And we know he was a butt guy. he's a butt man.
speaker-0 (29:58.104)
So she may have shite herself as the the soul came out? I I didn't get it either. And I thought when they'd show the the can and she he sprayed it, I thought, this is gonna come in later. She just didn't.
speaker-2 (30:01.57)
Yeah, I don't know. I don't yeah.
speaker-2 (30:09.058)
Yeah. Right. Right. Right.
speaker-1 (30:11.916)
Yeah.
speaker-2 (30:13.422)
disappears like iron law, you never see it again.
speaker-0 (30:16.01)
Yeah, we never see the Iron Lung Lady again because I guess the the rental was for a day.
speaker-2 (30:20.654)
We need it for like four hours. If you could just get out of it and we'll bring it back.
speaker-0 (30:26.484)
Or that was part of the deal. They got to use that as a shooting location, but there was an iron long there and you either shoot around it or you use her.
speaker-2 (30:34.69)
think we need we need to research the actress in the iron lung. I think you're right. That might be an actual patient.
speaker-1 (30:39.372)
No, I did. That's the only thing she's ever been in. you Yeah. I did. I was so curious. I'm like who's I am. Who's gonna be the iron lung lady? Nope. She's this is one little credit, just Bubba Hotep.
speaker-0 (30:42.636)
You look it up.
speaker-0 (30:47.33)
Goddamn thirst.
speaker-2 (30:54.85)
Love
speaker-0 (30:55.33)
That makes me think she's actually in an iron line.
speaker-2 (30:57.686)
Yeah, I I agree. I think they just said, Hey, just lay there, we're gonna come take your glasses. That's all you gotta do.
speaker-0 (31:02.99)
You're never wrong if you choose to do no research. So let's just assume she's actually nylong and we'll never we'll never be pro Cut two, Elvis wakes up to see a young woman going through the with drawers of his deceased roommate, digging through the stuff in the drawers. She tosses his purple heart and some old photos on the garbage. Elvis asks her if he can have the purple heart and a pick to remember him.
speaker-2 (31:11.886)
Yeah.
speaker-0 (31:30.498)
Buy and also a tin of chocolates. So she bends over to retrieve the stuff from the trash, and Elvis gets a look at her panties as she bends over. And he says, she didn't give a damn. She saw me as so physically and sexually non-threatening, she didn't mind if I got a bird's eye view of her love nest. Back to the pecker. I felt my pecker flutter once like a pigeon having a heart attack.
speaker-1 (31:56.59)
That made me laugh out loud.
speaker-2 (31:58.434)
Me too, that baby left. Well, that's a very good line. That's that particular voiceover section is very well.
speaker-1 (32:03.607)
It is. Yeah.
speaker-0 (32:04.384)
I thought so too. A lot of them were very disappointing. A lot of the Elvis lines that hit his one offs. Yeah. That's all you can think of in that situation. You could have really made these funny. Totally. but that one was probably the jewel, I think. There were a few good ones, but that was the one I just I belly laughed at. Elvis gives his dead roommate's daughter some grief about her not visiting her father, and then thinks back to his own daughter. How it was weird watching it this time with Lisa Marie no longer on this side of the valley.
speaker-2 (32:12.568)
Yeah.
speaker-2 (32:19.224)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Same.
speaker-2 (32:34.124)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
speaker-0 (32:36.342)
It gave it a little bit of a different feeling this time, you know, as he talks about her throughout the movie.
speaker-1 (32:40.982)
Yeah, it definitely did. And they don't ever say her name, do they? Yeah, I didn't think so. No. Interesting.
speaker-0 (32:44.413)
no.
speaker-0 (32:47.744)
Enter the nurse. That's how she's in the credits. The nurse. no name beyond that. Played by Ella Joyce. She's probably best known as Eleanor Emerson, opposite Charles S. Dutton in rock TV series. But she was also in Dangerous Minds. She was in Set It Off. She she's had a great career. Yeah. I remember her from a Seinfeld episode as a as a judge as well. So she's been on a lot of shit.
speaker-2 (33:01.368)
Rock, yeah.
speaker-0 (33:12.556)
And aging is such a bitch, man. You know, you see people as they are now and you forget and you see them younger and like, God, she was r really beautiful.
speaker-2 (33:20.11)
I think I had a crush on her like w going to the movie theater, like and and seeing her in that movie. I was like, God dang, that's she's
speaker-1 (33:26.275)
I actually think she's still really beautiful and she's no she's still yeah and like her skin. I'm like, your skin is beautiful. Like
speaker-0 (33:34.83)
Now you're gonna make me sound like an ageist and I'm just shooting
speaker-2 (33:37.859)
Yeah.
speaker-1 (33:38.934)
She really is a beautiful older woman now. But yeah, she was stunning in this. Yeah.
speaker-0 (33:46.081)
she was great up until the point where he got really mean to her and then she vanished from the movie at that point. Yeah, exactly. I guess they didn't really know how to handle the relationship after that.
speaker-2 (33:51.022)
Yeah, I guess it's disappeared.
speaker-1 (33:57.582)
I was so confused. I was like, why is he treating her like this?
speaker-0 (34:01.42)
Yeah, let's let's save that for there because it was so out of the blue. Yeah, this is not Sam Raimi that we're dealing with here. She says, how are you this morning, Mr. Half? so it's the first time we hear his name. And he tells her he prefers to be called Mr. Presley or Elvis. She reminds him that he was an Elvis impersonator and not the real king. She says he fell off a stage 20 years ago, broke his hip, it got infected, and he was in a coma for quite a while.
speaker-2 (34:08.406)
Right.
speaker-0 (34:31.008)
And came out with a few problems as she puts it.
speaker-2 (34:34.414)
It was a great wine.
speaker-0 (34:37.111)
Yep. As she's in there, and so is the daughter is still in there from his deceased roommate. And Bruce Campbell tells the ladies that he had gotten tired of the fame, was hooked on pills, and he switched places with an Elvis impersonator by the name of Sebastian Half, who unfortunately had a bad heart and loved loved drugs even more than I did. And so that didn't work out too well as he died on the toilet. We go immediately to a flashback.
speaker-2 (35:00.693)
Mm-hmm.
speaker-0 (35:04.006)
Of Elvis riding in a limo with the Memphis Mafia down this country road. He says they took a little road trip to Nagadochis. Elvis goes into the dressing room of Sebastian Half at the Nagadochus County Fair, and we find Hap inside his dressing room eating a blueberry pie. Half kneels down and kisses Elvis' ring with blueberry pie on his face.
speaker-1 (35:28.876)
Which is also Bruce Campbell.
speaker-0 (35:30.68)
Which is also Bruce Campbell. Our assumption, I think, based on the dialogue he says when he comes out of the room, is he's been searching for an impersonator to switch with for a while and he finally found one who looks just like him. Because the very next scene, he comes out of the room where the Memphis mafia is standing outside, and he says, It's all right, boys, he's just another freak as he wipes the blue blueberry pie from his mouth.
speaker-1 (35:55.106)
He had to do some fast talking s or else the Memphis mafia would have like, Hey, what's going on in there? Right? Like, what was this dialogue that happened? So listen, I want you to take my place. Here's the deal. Here's the contract. We've got time to sign it. I can get my life back if I want, but here's what you're gonna do and here's how you really like d this had to happen so fast. Did he have a letter already, you know?
speaker-0 (36:18.826)
It didn't bother me because he was telling the story to someone. You know, had we had a flashback where we're in the scene and we see the scene, then it would've felt rushed. But he's telling a quick version of the story to the nurse and to the daughter.
speaker-2 (36:31.854)
Also Lindsay, it's a movie. I just love that you're like writing this like you want more. I just see your brain that's why I love you. Like your brain is just constantly working, like let's get to this.
speaker-0 (36:34.117)
Okay.
speaker-1 (36:43.392)
Right. I need it to be realistic, the mummy discussion and all the b. It's gotta be realistic.
speaker-2 (36:51.326)
I actually love this. I wish wish that this was a movie. Yeah. Yeah. You just on its own. You know what I mean? This is like fascinating to me.
speaker-1 (36:59.372)
Yeah, I guess that's what it is, right? Like I think it would have been fun to watch some of that dialogue, you know, between the two of them and watch Bruce play against himself.
speaker-2 (37:09.804)
Yeah, but himself. Right. Right. You might you're right. It might be a lost opportunity to be sort of f you know, that really funny stuff.
speaker-0 (37:16.396)
Yeah, it was the only time in the movie where I my brain started wondering about what ifs because like so it's Sebastian Half that's coming out of the room and now he's walked, he walks outside with the Memphis Mafia, they go to the Cadillac and he reaches to open the door and one of the guys like King, I I got it. He's like, sorry, sorry, sorry. And he forget he doesn't know that he doesn't open doors for himself. They do. And then that my brain drifted off for there for a second because I thought, well, like what would the conversation be? Because he doesn't know.
How to be Elvis and he'd be in the car filled with people who know Elvis, so how how how do you pull that off?
speaker-1 (37:50.422)
Right. That's what I'm saying. Like it just your brain just goes down this path. Like, what is conversations he has with Priscilla later on where she's recalling memories and experiences and he's going, huh? And like, what if they hooked up again? And she's like, This feels different. You know, I mean, it's like all of the things, like where you're just like, how did he get away with it?
speaker-2 (38:10.99)
Like I wanna see this movie, which will be called something really fantastic, like Switch a rule a hula
speaker-0 (38:17.272)
Would it might be called Bubba and the Cosmic Bloodsuckers? Because we'll talk about that later because that's what it became. Yeah, t it did turn into something. so there was definitely something there. And it didn't make it to to film, but it made it to the comic book.
speaker-2 (38:23.66)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
speaker-2 (38:33.025)
fant I didn't know that. Fantastic. that's great.
speaker-0 (38:35.096)
So they did go back to a younger Elvis and and that stuff happening. Bruce Campbell, as Elvis, says he signed everything over to Sebastian except for just enough money in case things got bad and became an Elvis impersonator. To see a movie about Elvis pretending to be an Elvis impersonator? Fascinating.
speaker-2 (38:55.34)
It could be both it could be a hilarious thing or it could be like a straight up, you know, badass dark comedy. Yep. Or dramatic something, you know. Anyway.
speaker-0 (39:04.878)
Well, I wonder if it's possible to do that now with the new EP Enterprises, because it's a totally different entity than it used to be. I bet you wouldn't pull it off now. So he says that he and Sebastian had made a deal, and if he ever wanted to trade back, he'd just let him. Which is Elvis, that's so naive on your part. Then he would just let you trade back. But his contract with Sebastian burned in a barbecue accident. so it was destroyed.
speaker-2 (39:10.946)
Yeah, you're right.
speaker-1 (39:13.493)
yeah.
speaker-1 (39:33.718)
That explosion apparently they did in one take.
speaker-0 (39:37.122)
Wow. When the first part of it went off, when the grill part blew up, I thought 'cause there are a lot of scenes where it's very you can tell it's low budget. My brain thought, that's all it's gonna be. And then when it blew up more, it was like, okay, right on, they did it. It's like the Nagadosha's fair, you know, when they go down that street. They they rented a bounty house and one other thing, and that was and that was it. Just on the edge of frame, that's in just enough to let us know. Right.
speaker-2 (39:48.695)
Yeah.
speaker-1 (39:58.21)
That's all we could afford.
speaker-2 (40:02.91)
We're alluding to it. We're gonna Yeah, they probably only did one take 'cause they probably only had one take. That's it. You know what I mean?
speaker-1 (40:09.73)
That we got one chance to get this.
speaker-2 (40:12.822)
We have one camper or what are two campers or whatever. That's it, you know. Yeah.
speaker-0 (40:18.158)
Elva says no one ever listened to him except for one person, and he was certifiable. So we cut to Elvis and another nursing home resident, Jack, played by Ossi Davis out on the lawn during the day. Ossi Davis, legendary actor, director, Ossi Davis was an O shy of completing the E got. Appeared in eight Spike Lee movies. How about that? And probably if it wasn't for racism in
speaker-2 (40:38.36)
Yeah.
speaker-1 (40:42.426)
He's so good.
speaker-0 (40:46.51)
American cinema he would probably easily have gotten and he got Yeah. But you know what? He won the Fangoria Award for best supporting actor in this. So I'm sure that was just that made up for not winning the Oscar.
speaker-1 (40:57.912)
She's that made up. For sure. Yeah.
speaker-0 (41:01.154)
He made this movie three years before he died. 'Cause I was wondering about that because he's he's old but still spry in the movie. So yeah, he he hung around for three more years. and did, you know, quite a bit more work over that time. We meet Jack as he's telling Elvis that they took part of his just right into it, he just says they. They took part of his brain and they've got it back in D C in a goddamn jar and that he's got a little bag of sand up there now. And I don't know whether a little bag of sand has stuck with me
speaker-2 (41:07.674)
Yeah.
speaker-2 (41:13.838)
Yeah.
speaker-0 (41:30.584)
Probably more than any other part of this movie. Yeah.
speaker-1 (41:33.294)
I was like, Huh? Why?
speaker-0 (41:36.52)
He even says something a line later about like him thinking about something like, Well I'm thinking with a bag of sand here. Which is what I'm gonna say about for now on when I don't understand something. Bear with me, I'm thinking with a bag of sand
speaker-2 (41:36.928)
It's a great
speaker-2 (41:45.816)
See you.
speaker-2 (41:53.346)
This is why we're on those take two today. Your bag of sand in your head. Yeah.
speaker-0 (41:58.07)
So apologize, my back of back of sand was acting up today. So Elvis tells him, No offense, but John Kennedy was a white man, and Jack tells Elvis that well, that's how clever they are. They dyed me this color to hide the truth. so we're right off the bat, we've got an Elvis, someone who thinks they're Elvis, and someone who thinks they're John Kennedy in the same nursing home. Which is probably not too surprising. I haven't spent a lot of time in nursing homes, but it's there's probably a few of those.
speaker-2 (42:01.206)
Love it. I love it.
speaker-1 (42:23.854)
And there's something to be said for the fact that both of these guys play this so straight. They didn't lean into it at all. They played it so real. Like this is their real life. They were the real Elvis, they were the real JFK. It adds so much to the film. This is the film needs them to be exactly how they're playing it. It makes you wonder is it really the real Elvis and the real JFK?
speaker-2 (42:30.255)
yeah. Yeah.
speaker-0 (42:51.35)
Our weekly discussion of tone. Tone in this movie is all over the place, especially with the attendants, but their tone as actors rock solid. Yeah.
speaker-1 (43:00.408)
Solid. The actual maybe point of the movie, right, is friendship and w what kind of legacy you leave and all of that. You know, I mean that kind of stuff still is there and it's only there because it's Bruce Campbell and Aussie Davis.
speaker-0 (43:16.088)
Had that part been played by someone who was not of Ossi Davis' caliber, this may have been an entirely different movie.
speaker-1 (43:22.67)
Apparently he wanted him from the beginning and I guess had trouble getting the script over to him. So I think s like they wrote him a letter or something like that. Like how Yeah. And apparently his agent was like, I don't know about this.
speaker-0 (43:38.496)
A lot of dick jokes in this.
speaker-1 (43:41.112)
Well a lot of dick jokes.
speaker-2 (43:42.932)
But you are playing a white man for the first time in your career.
speaker-0 (43:45.614)
Have you ever wanted to play a president before us?
speaker-1 (43:48.206)
Yeah.
speaker-2 (43:50.882)
Yeah, you wanna be a president? Well, here's your opportunity.
speaker-0 (43:54.754)
That night, asleep in his bed, Elvis starts dreaming about him living simple as Sebastian Half, driving down the open road in a convertible, going from town to town, up and down the dial as an Elvis impersonator, impersonating himself, but then he had the accident. He broke his hip falling off the stage.
speaker-2 (44:14.92)
speaker-1 (44:15.086)
The sound effects in this movie were good though. That
speaker-0 (44:21.083)
In fact later he when he cracks his hip again, I li I watched the movie with captions on and it said hip cracking noise.
speaker-2 (44:30.414)
And we all know what that is.
speaker-1 (44:34.102)
Right. We're that age.
speaker-2 (44:36.558)
I really liked the shot of him falling too. Like it was very, you know, and his fall was very cartoonish. Again, like you said, the tone of this movie's kinda all over the place. And that was one of the parts where it got a little like, you know, we're doing some slapstick now, you know? Yeah. It was great. Yeah, it was quick. You're right. It just lasts, but it was I liked the shot of it, you know, the framing of it was great.
speaker-0 (44:49.07)
At least it was quick.
speaker-0 (44:55.054)
And again, low budget, very s very tight shot of a s very small crowd. A lot of light shining into the camera. So
speaker-2 (44:59.299)
Totally.
We we have twelve background. We gotta make it look like thirty thirty thousand people here.
speaker-0 (45:07.019)
I think I may even saw a bounty house in the background.
speaker-2 (45:10.379)
Yeah.
speaker-0 (45:12.812)
Something wakes him up in his room. he takes his walker and goes to pee in the bathroom and he says there's some lines about like he's gonna use the bedpan and he decides to use the walker. He's like trying to make a commitment to not become just a dying old man, shitting and pissing in bed. He's taking a piss in the bathroom, and back in the room, he sees that the ten of chocolates that the daughter from his old roommate had given him are now scattered all over the floor and they're laying next to this space heater on the floor.
He walks over and he lifts the overturned chocolate tin, and there's that scarab again. And he goes, Man, that's one big bitch cockroach. It flies up at his face, knocks him over, and when he gets up, he sees the scarab crawling on the wall. The scarab flies around the room attacking him. This was a a very well done scene, I thought. It just flies around him, circling him. He dodges him a couple of times and then grabs that bedpan and traps it against the wall in this bedpan.
lifts the bedpan and I guess he expects it to fly out and he didn't bother to look in the bedpan and that's where the scarab is just in the bedpan. So then the scarab gets out of the bedpan. So Elvis falls over again. He knocks over his dinner tray and just as the scarab is crawling towards him he grabs a fork from the tray and stabs the scarab. says never fuck with the king and then shoves the scarab into the burning coils of the space heater.
speaker-2 (46:19.832)
Yeah.
speaker-0 (46:39.734)
Rosing it, but you know, it was shocking him as well. I do enjoy that scenes like this, we don't linger long after. Like so there's he kills it and then he gets up and he heads out into the hallway. Just like with the klepto old lady, you know, she screams and you know, gets yanked away and that's it. That's it, that's right. So even though the pace is pretty slow, it could could have been a whole lot slower.
speaker-2 (46:52.652)
Yeah, that's right.
speaker-2 (47:04.724)
Yeah. For sure. And what's the deal with the scarab? Lindsay, did you do any research on that or like what who made it? 'Cause I thought it was very well especially the the flying bits, like coming towards camera or even the little on the floor scuttling up towards like it was really well done for the time, I thought. No.
speaker-1 (47:24.768)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. I didn't do any research on that. I'm sorry. I failed you all.
speaker-2 (47:29.105)
you looked up the iron lung lady, but not the scarab?
speaker-1 (47:34.178)
My a my assumption is it's all K and B, right? Like K and B did everything, right? my god. Maybe they did. I don't know.
speaker-0 (47:44.47)
I saw at the very end it was Nicotero's name or McGarris's name as like a consultant or something. So they may just come in and was like, yeah, that looks good. That looks bad. That looks good. That's all I got. You have me for a day. So yeah, so he after that scene, he takes his walker and goes out in the hallway and he's following this rustling noise that he's hearing down the hall. He comes to Jack's room, where there's a photo of Jackie O on his bedside table.
speaker-2 (47:52.568)
Yeah.
speaker-2 (47:56.374)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
speaker-0 (48:14.082)
And then there's frame photos of Jack Ruby and
speaker-2 (48:16.878)
All of yeah.
speaker-0 (48:19.086)
Yeah.
speaker-1 (48:21.63)
The little car reenactment, you know what I mean? Like Diorama of I know, me too.
speaker-2 (48:24.874)
It's like
speaker-0 (48:27.096)
I was hoping they would show that more of that.
speaker-2 (48:30.55)
And the and the carpeting too, like being like that royal blue sort of like the White House, you know, blue carpeting.
speaker-0 (48:37.634)
His room was much nicer than Elvis's room, by the way.
speaker-2 (48:41.014)
Yeah, much nicer.
speaker-1 (48:42.444)
He was a president, okay. The president gets treated better than the king, clearly.
speaker-0 (48:48.504)
So yeah, he finds Jack laying face down on the floor and he rolls him over and he's still alive. And and Elvis says, hey man, you're on the floor. And Jack says, no shit. Just like what am I doing here? Jack asks if he saw him go by in the hall and he said he scuttled by. And Elvis asks who and Jack says, the one they sent. Elvis says, Who sent? And Jack says, Linda Johnson.
So he thinks Lynn Johnson's and I send someone to kill him. Here we go, guys. Later. the orderlies are helping Jack into his bed as Elvis talks to the rest home administrator. And the rest home administrator is played by Reggie Bannister from the Phantasm movies. Elvis tells him that he's got bugs all over his place, big bugs, the size of a peanut butter and banana sandwich. I laughed out loud at that one. It was right here where he mentions the bump on his dick again and I just thought
speaker-2 (49:44.312)
Yeah, yeah.
speaker-0 (49:44.802)
Like where why did that even have to go into this sentence or the or this section? So Reggie Bannister says he will call an exterminator in the morning, and Elvis says, Thank you. Thank you very much. There's our first Elvis, thank you. The next morning, the nurse arrives in Elvis' room with rubber gloves on and says it's time for that little thing again. She covers her
speaker-2 (49:50.968)
Yeah.
speaker-2 (50:01.008)
yeah.
speaker-0 (50:11.074)
gloved fingers and goo from a jar and starts working at his pecker. I wish this was a video podcast.
speaker-2 (50:20.238)
For our listeners out there, Lindsay is graphically showing you exactly how the nurse took out the cream. I think it two fingered and then it was the lot.
speaker-0 (50:28.11)
Goops the goo.
speaker-1 (50:29.486)
I think it was two fingers.
speaker-0 (50:35.01)
And then works the shaft.
speaker-1 (50:37.026)
What kind of goo did they actually use for that?
speaker-2 (50:41.272)
Vaseline? Like they just bought one to the like C V S and bought a ninety nine cent jar of Vaseline.
speaker-1 (50:47.212)
Maybe they put it in the microwave for like ten, fifteen seconds. Just enough for it to drip. Like, ooh, it's bad.
speaker-0 (50:55.65)
Yeah, it was gross. They they succeeded in their attempts to gross us out. especially with all dick related content.
speaker-1 (51:03.682)
Was it really necessary?
speaker-0 (51:05.644)
Well, no, it was not, but I did like the line that's coming up based on that. So so the doctor says the cream should help. he says twenty years ago, I could have made a curled lip smile and had her eating out of my asshole. That's not the line I was talking about. Still funny. I mean it was Elvis. If he was Elvis, yes, he could have curled his lip and had anybody eating out of his asshole. While the nurse is working at the Little King, he starts thinking about the events of the last couple of days.
speaker-2 (51:21.974)
Yes.
speaker-0 (51:35.712)
And his memory lands on seeing up the skirt of the daughter of his ex roommate, and the nurse stops what she's doing, her eyes widen, and she says Mr Half. And he comes to and realizes what's happening. He says there had been two presidential elections since I had a boner like that one. What gives here?
speaker-1 (51:53.813)
That line made me laugh.
speaker-0 (51:55.608)
Yeah. She suggests you take a cold shower and he asks if she would like to take one with him and says, Come home, why don't you just pull on it a little?
speaker-2 (52:06.85)
Yes.
speaker-1 (52:07.992)
Unbelievable. It's it is moments like this where you're like, there's no way this guy's really Elvis. You know, I mean 'cause like earlier he tells the daughter and the nurse when they're in there together, he's like, Fuck you and like you know, I mean like he just the way he like talks, I'm like unbelievable.
speaker-0 (52:24.59)
You don't think Elvis could be cantankerous? No. But imagine you're Elvis, you got all the tail you want 'cause you're fucking Elvis and then all of a sudden nobody knows who you are and they don't believe they do you're just an old man and you'd be a little better.
speaker-1 (52:38.912)
It's less about like that and more like just even just like the line where he said, Fuck you to them I was like, Maybe Elvis would think it. I don't think he would say that out loud.
speaker-0 (52:49.526)
You have the gentleman picture of Elvis in your mind.
speaker-1 (52:52.706)
Maybe. Maybe.
speaker-2 (52:54.51)
have the speed freak out at three AM playing racquetball with Dr. Nick Elvis in your mind, dude. Just go, fuck you, Doctor Nick, that was a fucking point. That was a fucking point. Thank you very much.
speaker-1 (53:02.966)
Not at present, no.
speaker-0 (53:10.082)
No, I can have you killed, man. I'm sure Elvis plenty of time said, Fuck you, man. Fuck you, man. Not a goddamn king, man.
speaker-1 (53:17.516)
Maybe to men, I don't know.
speaker-2 (53:19.335)
and I need to say, this is just in jest, this is for entertainment purposes, EP Enterprises. I have nothing but respect for you.
speaker-0 (53:26.683)
Same here. Yep. Same. You guys do good work? Excellent venue you have over there.
speaker-2 (53:30.938)
Hey.
speaker-1 (53:33.408)
It's beautiful. I love the guest house.
speaker-0 (53:35.494)
cut to lunch. Elvis is sitting at a table with a bunch of old folk and bunch of shitty food on trays in front of him. I think he had a baloney sandwich and some green beans. there's an old man dressed as the Lone Ranger holding two kids' pistols at the table, mask and all, and Elvis says, That's my friend Kemisabe. We used to play cards together. Now he doesn't even know who I am. Kemisabe is played by Larry Pennell, who played Dash Rip Rock in
Fucking Beverly Hillbillies. He was dash rap.
speaker-2 (54:08.129)
Yeah.
speaker-1 (54:09.818)
He also played a man dressed as the Lone Ranger in a movie in nineteen sixty nine. What? Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. So he in Sam Drucker's visit in nineteen sixty nine, he played a man dressed as the Lone Ranger. This is the second time he's done that.
speaker-2 (54:28.726)
That's like his thing.
speaker-0 (54:30.114)
Yep. I didn't obviously didn't recognize him as Dash Riprock. I just knew he looked familiar. But w I will tell you what I did recognize him from, and and I don't know why it has made such an impact on me and stuck with me for years, because I probably haven't seen it in 30 years. But on an episode of Quantum Leap, he played Clark Gable and played him so well that it has stuck with me f ever since. Whoa. Yeah. I think it was the episode where Ziggy sends him back to murder Clark Gable.
speaker-2 (55:00.366)
What a brilliant show.
speaker-1 (55:02.956)
It really was.
speaker-0 (55:04.354)
That night, Elvis dreams that his daughter is standing in the dark doorway to his room, but is awoken by Jack. And Jack says, it's loose. Listen, and they hear the scurrying sound again. Jack says he was wrong about it being Lyndon Johnson and that it's another assassin, and tells Elvis to get out of bed. He tells him he's thinking that's where he says, I'm thinking with sand here. That's even funnier than the back of his hand. I'm I'm thinking with sand here.
So Elvis gets up and joins him. Jack tells him that he knows he's Elvis, and that there was a rumor that he hated him, i.e., hated John F. Kennedy. So he makes Elvis tell him that he had nothing to do with Dallas and that he didn't know Lee Harvey Oswald or Jack Ruby. So Jack then asks if he may call him Elvis and not Sebastian. And so their moment of bonding where the two, whether crazy or not, accept the other as who they say they are.
speaker-2 (56:01.612)
Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
speaker-0 (56:03.362)
Jack takes Elvis to the restrooms and shows him riding on the bathroom stall. And Elvis says, it's Egyptian, and Jack says, you know how stupid as some people made you out to be. Jack says he's had it translated, and that it says, Pharaoh, gobbles, donkey, goobers. And the second line says, Cleopatra does the nasty.
speaker-2 (56:28.962)
Which is the best. I wanna put that on a t shirt. I wanna put it on a t shirt. Cleopatra is the nasty.
speaker-1 (56:36.568)
Listen, I don't have any tattoos. That might be my first. I mean, I'm ready for it. Cleopatra does the nasty. you got some Egyptian lettering. I mean, that's not terrible. What does it say? Cleopatra does the nasty.
speaker-2 (56:46.432)
that was the brilliant.
speaker-2 (56:53.611)
Does the
speaker-0 (56:56.312)
So Jack tells Elvis that the reason he found him on the floor that night was because the creature is trying to suck his soul out of his asshole. So you can suck the soul of from any orifice, and he just happened to choose his choose the asshole. So yeah. He was gonna suck Assie Davis's asshole. There were a couple of lines that Ossie Davis delivered that where you could tell he hold back a bit. And I'm sure there were times like what am I saying here?
speaker-2 (57:12.702)
Yeah.
speaker-2 (57:25.826)
What wha wha what what are we d what are we doing here?
speaker-1 (57:28.152)
Like maybe my agent was right.
speaker-0 (57:30.828)
Yeah, exactly.
speaker-2 (57:31.948)
You know, I marched for civil rights. Like you know
speaker-1 (57:37.326)
What has my life become?
speaker-0 (57:40.406)
Yeah. Have you seen Ruby D before? Need this shit.
speaker-2 (57:45.23)
Like I changed the world literally.
speaker-1 (57:49.568)
This is not gonna get me the O in my e-got.
speaker-0 (57:53.154)
Yeah.
outside the facility, the nurse, that's that's her name, the nurse, is smoking a cigarette, and she sees a strange blue light coming from the gardener's shed out back. She walks towards it, but then is startled by an old creeping Reggie banister. And from inside the shed, we see something is watching the nurse. And then she walks back inside. The door opens to the gardening shed, and we see a pair of cowboy boots stagger out of the gardener's shed.
Whatever it is, it's got cowboy boots on. Jack shows Elvis the everyday man and woman's book of souls, and Elvis reads about the soul sucker in the book. They determined that they have an Egyptian soul sucker, and since the old people don't have much fire left in their lives, their souls are small. And so the soul sucker must replenish itself frequently on the old souls. So they're all trapped in there, and this thing is gonna come out nightly and suck.
Usholes out of assholes.
speaker-2 (58:56.782)
The way you say that's so elegant.
speaker-0 (59:00.622)
I'm sure Aussie Davis is like, can we not do this as a voiceover and have someone else say this while I'm off the screen? Cut to the soul sucker is sucking the soul. That's what that's lovely loads of alliteration. The soul sucker is sucking the soul out of the ass of a resident on the floor as his roommate, the Lone Ranger, Kima Sabi, raises up in bed and starts shooting it with his toy guns. Back to Jack's room, Jack and Elvis hear scurring noises in the hallway.
Elvis steps out into the hallway and sees the soul sucker at the end of the hallway, and it's slowly walking towards the king. As it gets to the doorway, it stops and turns its head. Elvis looks into his eyes and sees all the way back to Egypt. I thought this was pretty rad how they did this. And sees how became a mummy and how he was shipped to Texas in an exhibit, and he was in this bus. And then the mummified soul leader continues walking down the hall and just leaves him alone.
speaker-2 (59:46.029)
Yeah.
speaker-2 (59:58.695)
huh.
speaker-0 (59:59.352)
Jack and Elvis stab on the hallway and watch him as he's walking away. And I like the I liked the spiral lights they had behind them too. Yeah, what's your shooting through the atmosphere?
speaker-1 (01:00:09.334)
It w this was this whole section of the film I thought was really well done. I mean between him bringing the guns out and firing and then him walking into the hallway and him from the start of the hallway and the slow walk down and the stop and the sp I mean the the lighting, everything I thought worked really well.
speaker-2 (01:00:27.522)
Like the sound of the boots on the floor, you know, like great like tension builder and mm hmm. Yeah, it was really well done.
speaker-1 (01:00:34.798)
And I was here for the obligatory boob shot. You know, I mean it just seems
speaker-0 (01:00:38.688)
Yeah. I was surprised. Yeah. It actually I was like, boobs.
speaker-2 (01:00:42.414)
Deposit it.
speaker-1 (01:00:44.296)
I've rewound it and played it again and rewound it.
speaker-2 (01:00:47.934)
Let me just did I see what I think I saw? Were those Egyptian boobs? Egyptian boobs. Was no I thought it was Cleopatra during the NAS
speaker-1 (01:00:54.124)
Win the land?
speaker-0 (01:00:57.864)
so yeah, as Jack and Elvis are watching him walk away, Lone Ranger resident joins behind them with his two cap guns in his hand, firing his caps, and then has a heart attack, falls to the ground dead, just keels over right there in the hallway. The next morning, the funeral home attendants are loading the body and they stumble on the porch and drop his body into the bushes. they've got, we gotta really ramp it up this time, guys.
speaker-2 (01:01:23.24)
This look we need some comedy gold here guys. What do you got?
speaker-1 (01:01:27.34)
Also, like what is what is in there? I mean, wha is it a is a blow up doll? I mean, they're like tossing it around like it weighs nothing. It's a dead human body. I mean, like, it was just so weird.
speaker-2 (01:01:40.798)
of all just it just them carrying out a bag, you know, like that they would never you know, you would have a gurney thing with wheels in the whole you know, it's like it's supposed to be funny, I get it, but not
speaker-0 (01:01:50.69)
Did they have a gurney the first time? Didn't so that just to make it consistent, they always carried hand carried a body and a fireman bag.
speaker-2 (01:01:53.055)
No.
speaker-2 (01:01:59.466)
Yeah, but I had to drop it. Yeah, that was pretty hilarious.
speaker-0 (01:02:04.566)
I will say Robuck's a good actor when the they got it into the hearse he goes act natural. Act natural Don't be suspicious, don't be suspicious, don't be suspicious. So here's where it gets a little weird, and that's saying a lot for this movie. Yeah. Very next shot, Elvis is outside, and this is where I found out that there's Bruce Campbell commentary because I accidentally turned it on and he was they were laughing about the the coat that he was wearing with the belt way above his belly.
speaker-2 (01:02:10.773)
Yeah.
speaker-1 (01:02:20.334)
I was like, wait.
speaker-0 (01:02:33.426)
That was it. They decided that's what old old men did was they wore their belt above their belly. But yeah, Elvis is outside and the nurse comes out and tells him it's time for his nap and for the other thing. But he immediately snaps at her and calls her a patronizing bitch and says he'll lube his own crankshaft from now on. And she's understandably offended and kind of steps back and then walks away. And that's that's it.
speaker-2 (01:02:37.888)
right, right. That's funny.
speaker-1 (01:03:01.986)
The end of the nurse. I will say I wonder if like that was just not acting, if that was just her being like, What the fuck is this even about? There was no reason for him to treat her that way. And so I mean like it just doesn't make any sense in the movie.
speaker-2 (01:03:02.99)
Bye bye nurse.
speaker-2 (01:03:12.74)
I'm out of here.
speaker-0 (01:03:19.436)
He said, I'm tired of being treated like a baby, but there was no catalyst for it.
speaker-1 (01:03:23.05)
Exactly. She she was just doing her job. You know what I mean? Like she was trying to be as nice to him as she could. She wasn't rude to him. The thing is is like you wanna like these two guys. And so like for me, they should have just cut this completely. It just was totally un unnecessary.
speaker-0 (01:03:39.916)
Now, we don't know if they shot more scenes with her and they just got cut, but you you two are actors. So imagine you're reading the script and let's say they didn't shoot anything and that's your last scene and you're like, Huh, I'm not in the movie after this. What gives?
speaker-2 (01:03:46.493)
I mean
speaker-2 (01:03:55.374)
I would have thought, especially for this, you know, for horror, I'm putting you what calling this a horror film, it's not that horror, but she might have got whacked. You know what I mean? You would have thought that they would have because she was such a main character or or something, some interaction may have happened somewhere down the line with whether it's real or not, like there would have been something else to kind of wrap her up. Yeah. Just yeah.
speaker-0 (01:04:16.174)
Yeah, she got no closure. She was And you would think a soul sucker, if there was someone that who wasn't old who had a lot of life left in them, why not why not take her? Why not take Reggie Bandister? Why not take some of the other attendants?
speaker-1 (01:04:18.262)
Nun yeah.
speaker-1 (01:04:28.664)
Tids didn't dig it. I didn't dig the way she went out.
speaker-0 (01:04:31.532)
I thought it was the oddest scene in the movie. It was it was the Dennis Hopper the sending stretch away scene from Texas Chainsaw Massacre Part Two.
speaker-2 (01:04:39.384)
Yes, totally.
speaker-1 (01:04:40.904)
He just literally up and started yelling at her. You know what I mean? Like we've all been like we're in a frustrated state and somebody hit you know, says something and it rubs us the wrong way and we just kinda go off, right? Like it just he just fucking went off on this poor woman.
speaker-0 (01:04:54.862)
He picks up her his walker and threatens to hit her with it.
speaker-1 (01:04:58.178)
Yeah. Bruce Campbell, so rude.
speaker-2 (01:05:01.644)
This is a great point for me to tell you my Bruce Campbell story, speaking of Bruce Campbell being rude. No, no, no, not at all. You're gonna love this. Don't I I'm trying to steer you one way, but I'm gonna bring you back. Okay. So I did a very brief spot speaking of Scott Bacchula on Murphy Brown. This is we're gonna go way back to Time Machine Kids. You're gonna have to probably Google all these names. Murphy Brown TV show. Scott Bacchula was the guest star that week, so I got to meet Scott Bacchula, great guy, by the way. Shout out to Quantum League.
speaker-1 (01:05:06.564)
no.
speaker-2 (01:05:30.89)
And Murphy Brown was probably maybe like one of the first things I booked. So I I wasn't really, I didn't have any real credits, but the casting director and the producer did this other show called The Adventures of Briscoe County Jr., which was Bruce Campbell, I think it was for Fox. And my agent called me and goes, Hey, you know, you just did that Murphy Brown thing and so-and-so is the producer on this other show. And they just want to, they want to cast you in this one scene, they need you. So I didn't even have to audition for it, they just gave it to me, and I was like,
I'm gonna meet Bruce Campbell and like be on the set of this new show that's Western and kind of, you know, has some sci-fi stuff with it. And I was so excited. So I get there and it's a scene where I play this kind of cowboy, not a cowboy, but but a cowboy dork. And my girlfriend comes to me and starts yelling at me and accuses me of cheating on her because I'm never at home. I'm always gone at nights. And what I'm actually doing is I'm working nights to save up to buy her an engagement ring, which I finally have, and I
Propose to her on the street and I pick her up and I walk away and Bruce Campbell says some kind of funny line. I don't remember what it was, but he just says, like, good, yeah, good for those kids. So whatever. So on the day of the shoot, me and the girl are rehearsing, and Bruce Campbell comes over and I get to meet him. And I'm just like, dude, I'm just a huge fan. Thank you so much for having me on your show. Like, this is so good. And the girl's like, you know, doesn't really know who he is. He's like, nice to meet you. And he goes, so you're the filler. Good luck. And then he walks off.
Meaning the show was two and a half minutes short. So they wrote this scene. Wow. Just to like get to the twenty two minutes. You know what I mean? And I thought the way he delivered it was like so hilarious to me that I start busting out laughing. And she's like, How dare he just say, I'm a professional actor. And I was just like, dude, it's Bruce Campbell. He just like said, you're the filler.
speaker-1 (01:07:14.668)
Yeah, this filler gave you a fucking job, dumbass.
speaker-2 (01:07:18.37)
So good, but he was nice. He was so nice and just like I mean, totally to me, just seemed like that evil dead character in real life. Dead? Yeah. yeah. All right.
speaker-0 (01:07:25.026)
Did the scene make it into the episode?
speaker-1 (01:07:28.216)
For a lack of a better term, that's groovy. Can we just talk about how cool this is, Bart Shannon? We are watching a movie for our podcast with someone who has actually met the lead actor in the movie. Touched him. Touched him. Touched by an angel. Touched by an angel.
speaker-2 (01:07:32.568)
Yeah.
speaker-0 (01:07:38.23)
That's pretty rad.
speaker-0 (01:07:51.21)
And worked with Scott Bacchula, who we were just referencing.
speaker-1 (01:07:54.474)
I'm I'm blown away right now. You're the coolest person I've ever met.
speaker-2 (01:07:58.36)
When you do a Scott Bakula horror movie comics, I have a s I have a story about Murphy Brown I wanna tell.
speaker-0 (01:08:04.312)
This is our Billy Worley portion. Could you
speaker-2 (01:08:07.16)
So when I went Clint Eastward on the set of
speaker-0 (01:08:10.382)
That's I was just about to say. Do you mind telling the Clint Eastwood story? I mean, come on. If anybody's got a Clint Eastwood story, I think you deserve to tell it.
speaker-2 (01:08:18.239)
Okay. All right. So I'm playing the young James Cromwell on Space Cowboys. You c if you want to go watch it, I'm in the first five minutes of the movie and then it's done, you can turn it off. I'm so brilliant. But here's the thing it's me acting with my voice replaced by James Cromwell, which is very strange because he sounds like a seventy year old man and I'm like at the time probably like twenty six, twenty seven years old. Anyway, the story about like me fucking up my line over and over again, is that the story? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I had this kind of like almost like full page kind of
speech that I'm like the head of like kind of this mil I'm like in the military and like the colonel or something and and we have these test pilots that were gonna be astronauts, but we decided that we're making NASA. So it's like when NASA first gets made. So these people that are the test pilots aren't gonna be and I because I hate them in the storyline. Anyway, I have this big speech and like literally I'm in my trailer going over it and like 30 minutes before I'm about to go on, the AD comes over with somebody from the Air Force and they say, Hey, they made a few changes because some of the stuff was inaccurate.
So here's the new script. And it's like not totally different, but there's a lot that's different. And I've like been working on it for like a week. Cause it is like, I think it was like a page and a quarter. It was like a big speech. So anyway, I go over, I'm like, okay, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine. And I kind of get it. And there's a one word in there called dataless. But I kept I kept calling it dataless. Right. So we go on the set and this is huge. So I'm up on a giant podium. There's like a giant American flag behind me. There's probably a hundred extras.
There then some of them have like the old timey photos with like the bulbs that pop and there's a jet, like there's a six sixties jet or like in a hanger. Cody's was way there's like seven cameras, he's like way in the back on the lift. And I just kept fucking up that one word. I kept saying datalist and I and I was getting so frustrated. And he doesn't do many takes, but like the fourth or fifth take, I was just like and the other actors, you know, they were all kind of like snickering every time I'd get to that line. And Lindsay, you when you like kind of don't know what you're saying, you kinda
Roll up to that part real slow as an actor. You're like, and the next thing I'd like to talk about is Daedalus. You know. So anyway. Yeah, I want to say it right. And so that so this goes on like three or four takes. Anyway, I see Clinix with a lower the boom. He gets off of it. He's like, I mean, he's like 50 yards away from me. It's like he's way in the back. And he slowly walks towards me. He like comes up the podium, walks up the stairs, and comes right next to me and goes,
speaker-1 (01:10:24.248)
'Cause you're like, I'm gonna say it right.
speaker-2 (01:10:42.21)
Listen, I don't really care what you say. I'm probably gonna not be on you when you say that line. So just say it however you wanna say it. I'm gonna cut to another actor. And then he slowly walks back, goes all the way back across the way, gets on the boom, they put it back up. And I just said, that's when I first learned about editing, Bart. you don't have to get it perfect.
And so that was my you know, my learning experience and and just knowing like, you don't have to worry about that shit. They're gonna really good directors know how to fix it.
speaker-1 (01:11:12.556)
Yeah. And you think Clint Eastwood is probably like, I'm never hiring that guy again. Well
speaker-2 (01:11:18.072)
The thing too is like the other actors, like one kid plays Clint Eastwood in the movie as a young Clint East Wood, and someone plays a James Garner. And so all of us actors that were the young versions, I don't think we knew that we were having like voice replacement from the real So all of us have the real voices of those actors, but the ours younger bodies. So it's like, you Clint Eastwood is played by a twenty eight year old kid from England that and he had a really good Clint Eastwood impression. Like he was actually really good.
But I think maybe Clint knew when he came over and said that to me, where he's like, I don't really give a shit what you say 'cause I'm gonna have James Crumb well do the voice for you.
speaker-1 (01:11:49.9)
Right, right.
speaker-0 (01:11:50.912)
Relax and give me a delivery on Saturday.
speaker-2 (01:11:53.152)
Yeah, give me double. Don't look scared when you're saying a line, okay? That'd good. At the end of the scene, I go, let me introduce you to the first astronaut. They bring up this baby chimp wearing a diaper. So I got to hold the hand of a little baby chimp. And it its little hand was like a little baby. It was like a it felt like a human little hand, like a little baby hand. It was so adorable.
speaker-1 (01:11:56.142)
My god, that's so cool.
speaker-1 (01:12:16.14)
No, seriously, if your IMDB is really amazing.
speaker-0 (01:12:20.812)
Scott Baccula, Bruce Campbell, and Clain Eastwood in a in a three minute section. Not too shabby. No, I had no idea about Briscoe County. that's fucking fantastic. I love that show. Yeah. And I pr so I probably saw you in, you know, this is a decade before I met you.
speaker-2 (01:12:35.49)
funny part is when I, you know, I propose to her and it's like so sweet. And then I pick her up I pick her up and I I'm walking away from and they just had me walk down Westfield. We're in the back lot on the western lot. And they just say, just keep walking a little y'all cut. And I'm carrying this girl and I'm like at the time like this is skinny little bit. I could you could start seeing me start to lose her. Like as she starts, you know, dropping farther down and I'm starting to kind of
speaker-0 (01:12:58.038)
That's awesome. And and it's great to hear like a a non terrible Bruce Campbell story because there are yeah, we know some people who've had bad interactions with him. because I mean that's why people who are characters like him in movies are so good. It's cause a lot of it is their personality. You know, it's like that's him, yeah. That's kind of who they are.
speaker-2 (01:13:16.294)
It's one of the things I love about him. Exactly it is. 'Cause to me it's like the way he said it was it sounded like a like a dig, but it was in that delivery that is that he's like a asshole, but is he joking? You know, it's like
speaker-0 (01:13:19.587)
Totally is.
speaker-1 (01:13:30.008)
You're like I got Bruce Campbelled.
speaker-2 (01:13:32.172)
Yeah, I got Bruce Campbell, man. We're the filler, like fucking out here.
speaker-0 (01:13:36.98)
All right, let's reel it back in here. Here we go. So after the bad interaction with the nurse, she walks off and he sees a small stream down a hill, and he takes his walker down this very steep hill to the water, and then he sees this little cr his, he says a little creek, and there's a bridge going over the creek, and the bridge looks very much like the bridge from his vision that he saw when he was looking into the mummy's eyes.
And in the water, he sees an old license plate in the water, right on the edge, right by the bank. Is that not also a piece of the bus that it's attached to? There's something's metallic.
speaker-2 (01:14:18.41)
Yeah, it looked like a big p a big piece of something, right?
speaker-0 (01:14:21.986)
Just right there where anybody could find it. Just been sitting there for decades.
speaker-2 (01:14:27.052)
Yeah. Yeah, nobody's seen it. Yeah.
speaker-0 (01:14:29.784)
So we find the license plate.
speaker-1 (01:14:30.902)
It's a real small town, Bart.
speaker-0 (01:14:33.326)
Mud Creek. Mud Creek is tiny. I guess that would be Mud Creek.
speaker-2 (01:14:38.185)
Yeah, that's it.
speaker-0 (01:14:39.562)
Elvis gets back to his room and rubs the lotion on his old tupelo cock before collapsing onto the bed.
speaker-1 (01:14:46.882)
That's my next tattoo. Two below cock.
speaker-0 (01:14:49.742)
Well that was my favorite Van Morrison song. You're as sweet as tupa-lococks.
So he turns on the television and there's an Elvis movie marathon on television. And he starts to wax about his regrets and trusting Colonel Tom and that he wished he'd treated Priscilla better and told his daughter that he loved her. I thought that was an excellent use of archival footage in that without having to show any real Elvis footage, because those were like it's real archival from the period, some black and white, some color, but none of them actually Elvis movies.
speaker-1 (01:15:24.78)
Yeah, none of them actually Elvis movies. Which you know, it's like you you do think about that there's there's no Elvis songs, there's no, you know, no clips from Elvis movies. Which I by the way think strengthens the movie. I think it's really just about him and you have to think, why did they choose Elvis for this? Like and and JFK. But Elvis specifically, right? Like 'cause there's so much about it. Like, is it is it like redemption for his
you know, life and the way he went out. Like, why Elvis for this particular part?
speaker-2 (01:15:56.76)
To me it's like it the the tie the Bubba Hotep, you know, he's the king and he's a Bubba. He's prestigious, but he's also like a redneck cracker.
speaker-1 (01:16:04.854)
Right. He's a tupelo cop. Yeah.
speaker-2 (01:16:07.618)
Yeah,
speaker-1 (01:16:09.868)
No, that is that is true though. And in fact, they do sort of I feel like throughout they sort of make these outside sort of connections of you saying, Maybe Elvis lived a certain similar life in a past life. You know what I mean? Like that there's maybe some sort of connection between the two of them. So that makes sense, Billy.
speaker-0 (01:16:34.38)
I think it possibly could come for something like Lansdale had this original idea of and just came up two kings, you know? A king of modern era, king of king of ancient Egypt, and then he came up with a much funnier title than two kings. But that was probably the the connection of them both being kings in their own right would probably was the the foundation for it.
speaker-1 (01:16:56.206)
So then was the bus accident really an accident? But I mean like he's gotta end up there with Elvis.
speaker-2 (01:17:02.988)
Like he jinxed it. Yeah. It's just are there that many layers of this movie though? Yes.
speaker-1 (01:17:08.19)
Sh the answer is yes.
speaker-0 (01:17:10.67)
Speaking of layers, next scene, Jack shows up at Elvis' and this is a funny line. He says the woman who calls herself his niece took him downtown that morning to the newspaper morgue to do some research on the mummy. The woman who calls herself his niece. Jack tells the king that one of the lesser mummies was circulated all over the United States, but was stolen when it got to Texas by a couple of guys in a silver bus.
Elvis has been having visions of a silver bus. He saw them in the eyes of the mummy. This happened at the same time as the worst tornado in history. And Elvis says that he saw it buried in the creek, the bus. So I guess that was our answer to was that what that silver metallic thing was? It would so yeah, the whole fucking bus is just, you know. Right there next to the creek. I guess that hill's so steep that no one can go down it except for a seventy year old Elvis.
speaker-2 (01:17:57.56)
The whole bus is like underwater.
speaker-0 (01:18:06.696)
Yeah, in a in a on a walker.
speaker-2 (01:18:09.486)
By the way, his walk down, again, going back to like sort of, you know, slapstick company that doesn't
speaker-0 (01:18:15.97)
Faces he was making whole time. They determine that the sarcophagus has broken open and that the spirit is free to roam, stealing souls. So Jack says that the mummy is a nighttime mummy. So he's going to start sleeping in the daytime so that he can stay awake at night when the sucker roams the facility. Elvis decides he doesn't have much in life except for this place. He says it ain't much of a home, but it's all I got.
He gets out of bed and says, I'll be damned if I let some foreign graffiti writing soul sucking son of a bitch in an oversized cowboy hat and boots take my friends' souls and shit down the visitor's toilet. So there you go.
speaker-2 (01:18:54.963)
I did like in this section their phil philosophical talk about being shit stained in the toilet bowl or 'cause
speaker-0 (01:19:01.614)
They mentioned earlier we haven't we haven't referenced it, but their theory is that the reason there was graffiti on the s bathroom stall was because the mummy eats a soul, then needs to take a shit, and then goes sits and shits in the shitter and shits out your soul where it just gets flushed out the toilet.
speaker-2 (01:19:19.286)
It's just like it
speaker-0 (01:19:20.822)
That was a bit of a stretch.
speaker-1 (01:19:22.498)
Layers, Billy. This movie is just layers.
speaker-0 (01:19:26.124)
Elvis calls Jack on the phone. Jack answers in his room. And Elvis says, Mr. Kennedy, ask not what your rest home can do for you. Ask what you can do for your rest home. And Jack says, You're copying one of my best lines. So Elvis says, Then let me paraphrase one of mine. Let's take care of business. Listen money. I can't believe that line wasn't in the trailer. Or maybe it was. I don't recall it.
speaker-2 (01:19:44.302)
We're gonna kill.
speaker-2 (01:19:49.868)
I don't think so. I don't either.
speaker-0 (01:19:51.734)
That night, Jack and Elvis, they've assembled this mummy eradication kit of rubbing alcohol, matches, lighter, and an industrial spray rig that Elvis stole from the storage room. sounds like the the makins of a homemade flamethrower to me. Mm-hmm. And Jack says, Do we have our uniforms? And so Elvis pulls out his best sequent jumpsuit and they toss him on the bed. They synchronize their watches to meet at 2 30 AM.
speaker-1 (01:20:08.589)
But
speaker-0 (01:20:20.598)
And when they meet up, here we get this great slow motion scene of Jack and Elvis coming down the hallway. It's in the trailer. Probably the most iconic shot from the movie. Jack in his presidential suit riding in his wheelchair and Elvis in his jumpsuit walking with a walker down the hallway.
speaker-1 (01:20:29.755)
huh.
speaker-1 (01:20:37.208)
Costume designer worked with BK Enterprises who they're connected to some of the actual Elvis jumpsuit designs. Right on. They w at least they did that right. Mm-hmm. But yeah, it's a great shot.
speaker-0 (01:20:48.95)
And this was that shot in the trailer where it's like once they you see that, you're like, I'll be damned. This is what this is.
speaker-2 (01:20:54.85)
Yeah. This is this is gonna be cool. Yeah. Yeah, this is gonna be cool as hell. Yeah.
speaker-0 (01:20:58.892)
Yep. It's the king. Next thing they cut the wires to the door alarms and they go outside and fill up their makeshift flamethrower. Jack asks what Elvis has hanging around his neck, and he's got this little pouch around his neck, and Elvis says it's a medicine bag filled with all kinds of lucky stuff. It's got he pulls it out, he's got the mask, the Lone Ranger's mask that he picked up on the floor when his friend died, and a photo of his daughter, and he shows us his photo to
Jack, it says is my daughter, and Jack says, I know. You know, I thought that's very sweet. You know, again, getting around the Lisa Marie thing. Jack says that they weren't there for their kids when they needed them, but this is no time for regrets. So they head out into the yard. But Elvis says he's got one last question for Jack, and he says, Marilyn, how what was she like in the sack? And Jack says, That is classified information, but between you and me, wow.
speaker-2 (01:21:55.534)
And then the spin turn pull away in the electric wheelchair, which I thought was genius.
speaker-0 (01:22:00.48)
Exactly. There are some great wheelchair gags coming up.
speaker-2 (01:22:04.942)
Yeah.
speaker-1 (01:22:05.782)
Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
speaker-0 (01:22:07.928)
they split up and head out into the night. Jack sits in his wheelchair out in the open as bait as Elvis hides, waiting with his flamethrower. Elvis sees the mummy slow walking across the yard towards Jack, but then he vanishes. And Elvis sees that Jack has fallen asleep in his wheelchair and he's trying to get his attention. But the mummy gets the jump on Elvis from behind a tree and attacks him. And as Elvis tries to fight him off with his walker, Jack wakes up.
Sees that the mummy has knocked Elvis to the ground, but the king gets up and does some of his karate moves, attempts a kick, and that's where where the captions when he attempts the kick, it says hip cracking noise.
Jack starts towards the mummy in his wheelchair, and the soul sucker turns to see him coming at him, still quite a ways away. But the mummy walks off and vanishes, and Jack tells Elvis to stay put and he's gonna go flush him out. The mummy jumps out and forearm shivers Jack out of his wheelchair and attacks him on the ground. As the mummy attempts to steal Jack's soul, his wheelchair goes rogue.
And rolls towards Elvis. Elvis falls into the chair and then takes control and starts towards the action in the in the wheelchair with his flamethrower in tow. I thought this whole sequence was cute.
speaker-1 (01:23:32.822)
Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's good.
speaker-0 (01:23:35.17)
The mummy opens its mouth over Jack's mouth and starts the soul sucking proper as Elvis screeches the wheelchair to a halt. It screeches like like car tires on pavement. It's it's a wheelchair on grass and it literally So Elvis yells to the mummy to get his attention. The mummy abandons Jack and stands up to face Elvis, who says,
speaker-2 (01:23:50.744)
Yeah, love it.
speaker-0 (01:24:04.248)
Come and get it, you undead sack of shit. The mummy spits out another just cool element, weird, unnecessary, but he spits out 3D hieroglyphics on screen, which and then translates to by the unwinking red eye of Ra. And then walks through the 3D text, breaking it up. And the mummy walks over to Elvis, who then sprays him with the liquid from the extinguisher.
speaker-2 (01:24:14.902)
Yeah.
speaker-0 (01:24:33.59)
So he sprays him. I don't know if you noticed this, but there's there's there's the shot of the mummy and then there's the shot of Elvis in the wheelchair. So on one one shot he's spraying the mummy with the dispenser and it's liquid. He's spraying all over him. But then the reverse, there it's a blue flame. It's a it's a stream of blue flame. I So it's already a flame from when Elvis is sitting there in that shot, but obviously you can't spray a flame at a at an actor and
speaker-2 (01:24:54.101)
No.
speaker-1 (01:24:55.052)
Neither.
speaker-0 (01:25:03.178)
And not burn him, but I I thought that was I thought that was odd. So he sprays him with this liquid. Elvis flicks his zippo out and says, Sorry, man. And he tosses the lighter onto the mummy, setting him on fire. He collapses onto the ground into a ball of flame as Elvis goes over to check on Jack. He says, Mr. Kennedy. Jack opens his eyes, looks at Elvis, and says, The president is soon dead, and hands Elvis a piece of paper. So it's up to you now, Elvis. You gotta get him.
You gotta take care of business. And then Jack dies. Ossi Davis passes away. Yeah. I didn't think it was gonna be that kind of movie.
speaker-1 (01:25:37.432)
Yeah.
Yeah, I didn't either. And when he stands up and he salutes him and he says, Mr. President, it's actually really sincere and like really sweet. And you're like, his friend died. You know? Like, it's really kinda sad. I was sad a lot in this movie.
speaker-2 (01:25:58.754)
It was really sweet. Yeah. Like Bart said that this whole sequence I love it was great, I thought. And then you know, you get you get the classic horror film, you know, monster on fire burn, you know, stumbling away, falling to the ground. This is the classic. I think
speaker-0 (01:26:13.72)
This scene is very empowering to old folks, you know? They do their best and they kick the the mummy's ass.
speaker-2 (01:26:19.926)
Yeah. And they kinda they use their smarts, you know, to like to to outwit him.
speaker-0 (01:26:23.896)
Yep, because their bodies are failing them, but the brains are still there, except for when it's just this sand here, people. Like you said, Lindsay Elvis salutes Jack, gets to his feet, unfolds the piece of paper, and he reads the piece of paper that says, You nasty thing from beyond the dead. No matter what you think or do, good things will never come to you. And if evil is your black design, you can bet the goodness of light ones will kick.
speaker-2 (01:26:28.6)
Sand, the step of the sand.
speaker-1 (01:26:30.392)
For the sand. Yeah.
speaker-0 (01:26:52.898)
You're bad behind. And Elvis says, That's it. Did it come with a Dakota ring? Shit, it don't even rhyme well. And ineffective, because the mummy starts to get up from the ground even after being burned and faces Elvis and says through yet another string of 3D hieroglyphics, eat the dog dick of annubus, you asswipe. Very Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2. Lick my plate, you dog dick dick.
speaker-1 (01:27:16.322)
My God.
speaker-1 (01:27:22.774)
Trying
speaker-2 (01:27:23.726)
Yes.
speaker-0 (01:27:25.078)
Elvis gets back to the wheelchair and says, It's time for A C T I O N and hits the lever of the wheelchair and the wheelchair lurches off of the ground for a second.
speaker-2 (01:27:38.262)
There's a wheelie. Yeah, there's like a wheelie pop up.
speaker-0 (01:27:40.98)
All four wheels. It takes jumps off the ground and then he takes off at high speed towards the mummy. And he rams the mummy, who is now in Elvis' lap, as and they start punching each other as the wheelchair starts going down the hill towards the crick. As they go down the hill, they both fall off the wheelchair and they all go tumbling down to the bank. And Elvis realizes there's a stick protruding from his side and he's gushing blood.
The mummy climbs onto Elvis, starts choking him, and hits him in the head with a large stick, while Elvis manages to remove the top from the sprayer, pouring out all of the flammable liquid. The mummy hits Elvis one more time in the head, and we hear Elvis' narration as he says, I was going out. And then that there would be nothing left but a quick flush. But then he comes to, he clenches his fist and says, TCB, baby, and socks the mummy, knocking the mummy back off of him.
Give me sugar, baby. Flies off with one
speaker-2 (01:28:40.086)
I mean he like flies off Yeah, it's like one Elvis T C B punch. I believe it though.
speaker-0 (01:28:46.712)
He knocks him over. The mummy stands up while Elvis lights a match and says, your soul-sucking days are over, amigo, and throws the match onto the pool of liquid that the mummy's standing in. Ball of flame number two. This time on fire, he falls into the water, laying face down, still burning. The flames go out, but this time you can tell he's he's not getting back up. Elvis lays on the bank, bleeding out, unable to get up, and says, But I still have my soul.
And the folks up there at Shady Rest, they have theirs too. He looks up into the stars and in the night sky as they all form into one final hieroglyph that reads, All is well. Elvis says, Thank you. Thank you very much. Closes his eyes. Fade out. The end.
speaker-1 (01:29:32.694)
I don't really know what to say right now.
speaker-2 (01:29:35.118)
I mean, that's powerful right there, dude.
speaker-0 (01:29:37.162)
After the credits, we see text on screen that reads Elvis Returns and Bubba Nasparatu, Curse of the She Vampires, which Cascarelli claims was just a joke until the movie had a positive reception. And so it went into development. Paul Giamatti was gonna play Colonel Tom. It went around for a decade getting passed around. I didn't know.
Bruce Campbell and Coscarelli got into a disagreement about the script. So Bruce Campbell left the project. And for years, Ron Perlman was gonna play Elvis with Giamatti as Colonel Tom. And it limped along for a decade before Lansdell finally developed all of the discussed ideas for the follow-up movie into the novella Bubba and the Cosmic Bloodsuckers, published in 2017. The story took place earlier in Elvis' life during a period in which he worked for Colonel Parker battling monsters.
Prior to exchanging identities with Sebastian Half. In 2019, two years later, Dynamic Entertainment published a four-issue crossover miniseries, Army of Darkness, Bubbahotep, which followed the original story and saw Elvis team up with Ash Williams, Bruce Campbell, both characters.
speaker-2 (01:30:50.494)
Awesome. That's awesome.
speaker-0 (01:30:52.61)
And those exist, not in a movie world, but they exist in comic book world. And it's pretty rad that that that stuff has come about. But my friends, that is Bubba Hotep.
speaker-1 (01:31:00.578)
Man.
speaker-2 (01:31:05.944)
Man, the way that we just did it seems a lot more entertaining than the movie I watched.
speaker-0 (01:31:11.438)
Ha ha ha.
speaker-1 (01:31:11.822)
Yeah.
What is it? Like what do you think? Like for me it's pace, right? But it's I mean, there's something else.
speaker-2 (01:31:21.238)
I think the pace is pretty terrible. Yeah. The ri set like the like you said, just I feel like this is a movie that doesn't know what genre it is. Yeah. You know, or it's just not well executed. I No, I agree. I say but I didn't hate the movie, but I but
speaker-0 (01:31:31.662)
I did appreciate it more this time.
speaker-1 (01:31:36.93)
Like it. I do. Yeah. But there's just, I don't know. But maybe you're right. Maybe we said it before. You have such insanely high expectations for it. And there's no real reason to. I don't know what you expect it to be. And you know, maybe it's because the trailer is so good, but you're like, Sam Rami is not attached to this. This is not a Sam Rami film. This is something completely different. And you watch this director's work from before. This is in line with his work.
speaker-2 (01:32:05.78)
And I would think too this looks like pretty low budget. I don't I mean I don't know what they had. Even having Bruce and Ozzy on it, you know, still looks like production wise a pretty limited situation, you know. Probably more than the Phantasm stuff, but but not probably much.
speaker-1 (01:32:20.824)
So reportedly they shot it for about a million. But I mean, some some other site closer to like five hundred thousand, which doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, I don't know how you get Bruce Campbell for an Aussie Davis and some of these other actors, you know, for for that.
speaker-2 (01:32:38.796)
give them like s seventy five percent of the budget and then you make the f rest of the movie for a hundred grand.
speaker-1 (01:32:44.339)
Is it is it that it just kind of comes off as cheat?
speaker-0 (01:32:48.852)
Y yeah, it does, but but you see that in the trailer that it's gonna be very schlocky.
speaker-1 (01:32:54.732)
Yeah, I just can't quite put my finger on it. Yeah.
speaker-0 (01:32:57.717)
same.
speaker-2 (01:32:58.872)
There's a lot of good but there's a lot of bad. There's just some some things it's just they didn't execute it or the dialogue wasn't great. I would watch if someone said, Hey, come on over, we're gonna watch Boba Hotep I'd be like the let's go. You know, I would definitely
speaker-1 (01:33:11.148)
We should make a drinking game out of it. Yeah. I don't know I don't know what element, but that would
speaker-0 (01:33:16.44)
Yeah.
speaker-1 (01:33:18.776)
Good day.
speaker-2 (01:33:19.406)
I have a I have a drink called the Chipolo Cock that you're gonna love.
speaker-1 (01:33:22.946)
We'll have a d yeah, we'll have a signature drink, the chupelo cost.
speaker-0 (01:33:26.412)
No, they would be tupelo cocktails.
speaker-2 (01:33:29.294)
I mean
speaker-1 (01:33:29.582)
speaker-2 (01:33:31.97)
Bang you
speaker-0 (01:33:33.144)
But no, I was about to say the exact same thing. I will watch this movie again. Like we do some movies where I'm like, nope, I'm good. I don't ever have to see this movie again. I'll watch this again. I mean, yeah. Yeah. I'll buy it on fork it and watch it again. So yeah, it's puzzling. It's this movie's puzzling. I I mean, I think the Bruce Campbell connection, if this was nobody instead of Bruce Campbell, nah. I'd rather
speaker-2 (01:33:57.142)
Mm maybe not.
speaker-1 (01:33:58.534)
Aussie Davis and Bruce Campbell make this movie. They I you can't watch it if they're not in it. It's not watchable.
speaker-0 (01:34:05.632)
If Reggie Bannister had played Elvis.
speaker-2 (01:34:08.61)
Yeah.
speaker-1 (01:34:09.422)
Well should we should we do our signature kind of wrap up questions here? Yep. Anyway, so okay, so we've got some it's questions that we typically ask here as we wrap up, but one is sort of a about a comedy horror meter. so on a scale from kind of straight up horror to full on comedy, where does this one land for you?
speaker-0 (01:34:32.192)
And it doesn't have to succeed at either one. It's just like where would you put this in a if you were had we're breaking things up into sub genres? Like what percentage?
speaker-2 (01:34:41.806)
Okay. As as far as horror on a scale of ten like to ten? Yeah. Is that what you got?
speaker-0 (01:34:46.732)
Yeah a hundred.
speaker-1 (01:34:47.702)
Yeah or a ha say a hundred plus hundred.
speaker-2 (01:34:49.812)
Uh-huh. Okay. Okay. Well, I'm gonna go right down the middle. I think it's fifty fifty. Okay.
speaker-1 (01:34:55.734)
Okay. Yeah. You know, I said more in the eighty twenty camp.
speaker-0 (01:34:59.586)
Media comedy or
speaker-2 (01:35:00.408)
For horror to comedy.
speaker-1 (01:35:02.23)
Yeah, I think it's twenty percent horror, eighty percent comedy. I don't know. I do think there are some horror elements. I think the mummy is totally creepy. I think some of the sh shots are really creepy. I think some of the, you know, her the old lady grabbing on to the bottom of the door and being pulled away. It there are some really creepy moments in there and also just being in a old person's home and getting your soul sucked out of your ass doesn't sound super great either, but
speaker-2 (01:35:05.281)
eighty percent comedy.
speaker-1 (01:35:31.34)
Yeah, I mean so I would say twenty percent horror, eight eighty percent comedy.
speaker-2 (01:35:35.224)
Yeah, I can see that.
speaker-0 (01:35:36.468)
I'm gonna go more. I'm gonna go sixty percent comedy, forty percent horror. Because we get we have two people that are murdered by a mummy.
speaker-2 (01:35:45.006)
You have the scarab gag.
speaker-0 (01:35:46.594)
Counting Aussie, three people that were murdered by a mummy. the scarab gag. So all that stuff. The mummy was spooky. and they're trying to kill this thing. I liked I appreciate even the scenes, the very odd high speed when Bruce Campbell was in bed and they would things happening in the room going around. Yeah. it kind of reminded me of the frighteners in the the in the hospital with the
speaker-2 (01:36:13.324)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'd I'd
speaker-0 (01:36:15.946)
And also just the spookiness of the the facility itself, very Barton Fink and the the grungy wallpaper and I I thought that stuff was well done. So yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. But for all of the r ridiculous dialogue and Bruce Campbell is Elvis, you got yeah, it's a comedy. Sixty I'd say sixty forty.
speaker-1 (01:36:26.827)
And the lighting.
speaker-1 (01:36:36.958)
okay, so elevator pitch. So if you were trying to get this movie green lit or say you just wanted to convince a friend to watch it, what's your elevator pitch? So like what's the what's the hook that sums up this movie in one or two lines? And we can go first. We can let you think about that. That's there's some brain power involved with that.
speaker-2 (01:36:57.09)
Yeah. I want it to be good. I don't want to be like my last answer, which was shit.
speaker-1 (01:37:01.678)
Well,
speaker-0 (01:37:03.949)
So Lindsay, why don't you go first?
speaker-1 (01:37:05.612)
Okay, okay. I do put a lot of thought into this one because I do try to come up with something that I think is would be a good pitch. Yeah. I said Bruce Campbell as old Elvis, Aussie Davis as JFK, one nursing home, one undead mummy, taking care of business and saving souls one walker at a time.
speaker-0 (01:37:29.134)
Yeah, do we have to go?
speaker-2 (01:37:30.78)
I'm supposed to follow that.
speaker-1 (01:37:34.006)
No, no you don't.
speaker-2 (01:37:35.586)
Jeez, that's perfect. I mean that is perfect. Okay, well we can do it in a different pitch. Yeah, let me I'll go okay. Bruce Campbell, Ozzy Davis, there to save an elderly facility filled with pus and asphards that are your soul.
speaker-0 (01:37:40.142)
Do you want to go or do you want me to go?
speaker-1 (01:37:57.684)
If you said that to me, Billy, I would watch that movie. I'm just gonna be really, real
speaker-2 (01:38:03.502)
And there's and there's a mummy. And there's a mummy. And I just said my I and I I forget about it, but I bring it back while you're talking to me. And I go, and there's a mummy. And that's my pitch.
speaker-1 (01:38:12.184)
I wouldn't watch it. I would. That sounds like a great pitch. my God. Bart. What say you?
speaker-0 (01:38:19.968)
I'm trying to pull elements now that I've listened to both of you. I'm trying to pull elements for both of you guys and make it sound original. Elvis Presley and John F. Kennedy are live in a low-rent nursing home in Mud Creek, Texas, fighting an ancient mummy from sucking the souls from the assholes of the residents. Lower your expectations.
And you'll have a good time.
speaker-2 (01:38:51.244)
That's a hell of a pick.
speaker-1 (01:38:52.682)
And it's only an hour and a half, so it won't even take you that long.
speaker-0 (01:38:55.758)
Yeah, it's brisk. It's brisk. It definitely feels like a two hour movie.
speaker-2 (01:38:58.07)
The pace is slow, but it's brisk.
speaker-1 (01:39:02.006)
It's definitely not.
speaker-2 (01:39:04.546)
That first twenty feels like an hour for sure. I'm just like, cuz let's get on with the mummy shit or whatever we're doing here.
speaker-1 (01:39:11.426)
much exposition guys too much all right so so this feeds well into the last one which is recommendation would you recommend this movie to everyone to only a certain kind of fan what is the right audience for Bubbahotep
speaker-2 (01:39:30.124)
Yeah. I would probably not recommend it to everyone, but I would definitely recommend it to Bruce Campbell fans.
speaker-1 (01:39:36.718)
I thought you were just gonna say to Bruce Campbell. I would definitely recommend it to Bruce Campbell.
speaker-2 (01:39:40.77)
I said, Bruce, you should check it out. It's not bad. but Bruce Campbell fans and I think just and also just true classic horror fans that loves that sort of low budge horror film genre.
speaker-1 (01:39:51.906)
Yeah. Yeah. I think you're probably right there. Like if you're if you find somebody that's a Bruce Campbell fan, first of all, they've already seen it. but if for some reason they haven't, then you have to watch it. But it's also I mean, I honestly think this is like maybe his best performance. He does a really good job in the movie, I feel like, you know?
speaker-2 (01:40:12.014)
He's right. He does. Yeah. And this, he's still kind of you can feel that sort of dry humor that's just him, but like he definitely is playing something else.
speaker-1 (01:40:20.632)
But I mean I can think of maybe fifty percent of my friends I would say mm mm mm mm I wouldn't recommend this to to them. I don't know if people would get it.
speaker-0 (01:40:31.148)
You know, this is a tough one to recommend. I definitely wouldn't recommend everybody. I think I'd kind of have to know you first before I'd recommend. I wouldn't r I wouldn't go just like to a bunch of people and say, You gotta watch Bubba Ho tap, you know. I'd I think I'd have to know what you like and dislike first. But but people that I know well and know what the kind of stuff they like, for those people that I think, they'd like this. but I think I tell would tell everyone lower your expectations and just enjoy it. This movie's a head scratcher. This movie's a goddamn mystery.
speaker-2 (01:40:57.13)
It is.
speaker-1 (01:41:00.95)
It is.
speaker-2 (01:41:01.47)
It really isn't like your guys' breakdown of like forty percent, sixty percent, da da It's not it's neither a horror film or a comedy. You know, it's it kind of falls in this middle ground, it's it's not really sure what it is and it's not very good, but for some reason I wanna watch it.
speaker-1 (01:41:17.292)
It's great. But you know, that's a that's an interesting point, Billy, because it says something that our three answers were vastly different about whether it's a comedy or a horror. You know what I mean? Like normally it's like, yeah, eighty twenty, eighty twenty all the way, or ninety ten or you know, you know, whatever. But like this one because it's just kind of all over the place. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.
speaker-2 (01:41:30.092)
Yeah, yeah.
speaker-0 (01:41:41.868)
That's it. That's our three questions.
speaker-1 (01:41:44.044)
Yeah. I love it. Yeah. Bubba Hotem.
speaker-2 (01:41:45.166)
Thank you guys.
I will also say the hardest movie I've ever tried to find to watch online. Thank you, Lindsay, very much for your help. Where'd you find it? It was only on Apple T V is the only place you can watch it. wow. You can't rent even rent it like it's not on Amazon. It's nowhere except on Apple T V.
speaker-0 (01:42:03.148)
Yeah. I in my possession at the moment I have two S D D V Ds of it if
speaker-2 (01:42:08.211)
Yeah.
speaker-1 (01:42:13.806)
Billy Billy's like How the hell do I watch this movie? And I'm I gave him my Apple TV login. All right.
speaker-0 (01:42:20.6)
So can I change one of my previous answers then on who I'd recommend it to? people that are Apple TV subscribers. Yes.
speaker-2 (01:42:28.866)
Definitely, by the way, not old people they have to search on the internets.
speaker-1 (01:42:33.922)
That's it. That kinda wraps up kind of where we are. I was gonna kinda see jump into learning a little bit more about what Billy's up to these days.
speaker-2 (01:42:41.59)
I am working on a project right now that I'm super excited about. I can't maybe say who the artist is, but it's kind of like a a known artist that was kind of featured in a documentary who's doing a record at Royal Studios that I'm filming that I'll be doing some I've been to like the last five days and I have like I just had to interview this person tonight. but it's super badass and I mean I am so excited about like just
speaker-1 (01:42:54.951)
cool.
speaker-2 (01:43:10.626)
being able to see the process of their of this person recording with their band and how good it is being in Royal for five days is always just like just fun no matter who's actually in there. But it's gonna be great. So I've been filming, filming, filming, and I'm gonna do a bunch of edits for their manager and her him or her. And so that's really the main main thing I've been doing. And then you know I work with
speaker-1 (01:43:30.518)
Mm.
speaker-2 (01:43:36.83)
Stacks Music Academy a lot, like filming and editing stuff for them. And I'm always happy to do that because it's like so much fun to work with the kids and learn about their lives and and and some of them are interested in sort of filmmaking. So it's been kind of fun taking a few of them and teaching them the few things that I know. That's really it. That's awesome.
speaker-1 (01:43:54.637)
Some
speaker-0 (01:43:55.362)
Yeah. and it goes without saying I would like to apologize for not recording for the first thirty minutes that we did today. You guys are are drifting into the evening because of my little snafu.
speaker-1 (01:44:06.808)
I can't think of any other way I would like to spend my time than with you two idiots. I love both of you.
speaker-2 (01:44:13.174)
I agree. I get to I just mean to me I got an extra half hour with y'all.
speaker-0 (01:44:13.424)
Same. I had an absolute blast.
speaker-1 (01:44:18.958)
That's right.
speaker-0 (01:44:19.938)
Billy, absolute pleasure. I love you, my man. Great to see your face. Great to talk to you. thank you for doing this and talking about this very bizarre film that is so conflicting in so many ways.
speaker-1 (01:44:33.646)
And I knew he was gonna choose it. I knew it. When you gave him those three choices, I was like, he's going with Bubba Hotep. That's what we're gonna be watching.
speaker-2 (01:44:41.266)
Yeah, I gotta go with Bruce Campbell and Elvis. You know, I got to.
speaker-1 (01:44:44.696)
So amazing to have you on. I miss you so much.
speaker-2 (01:44:48.77)
I know, we live in the same city. We need to hang out more. And Bart, we gotta get out to Portland and see you, I guess. For sure. But I thank you thank guys so much. I had so much fun and love what you guys are doing and love this podcast and yeah, I just miss y'all. Love
speaker-0 (01:44:54.552)
Come out here.
speaker-1 (01:45:03.342)
I know, we love you too.
speaker-0 (01:45:05.056)
I love that guy.
speaker-2 (01:45:08.078)
Absolutely.
speaker-1 (01:45:09.068)
All right, brother. Thanks, Billy. He's the b I mean, he really is. It was a dream come true working with the two of you at the same time. Like I don't know what karmically was going on to make the universe align like that, but man, I've never had more fun working in my life. Both of you guys are so wonderful. I like to
speaker-0 (01:45:32.056)
Imagine a world where Billy is still on shows like The Pitts. Yeah. Because you could easily see that.
speaker-1 (01:45:39.564)
He's extremely talented. Extremely talented.
speaker-0 (01:45:41.93)
I remember early edition with with Kyle Chandler. My parents used to watch early edition and and when they were watching it I would, you know, I would watch episodes as well. And quite certain that I watched episodes of Billy Whirley and just didn't know it and didn't know him until years later.
speaker-1 (01:45:57.014)
That's really the crazy part. And then you meet him and guess what? You would never know that he did any of that stuff. Like he doesn't brag about it, you know, like most people are like, yeah, well I've been on the set with, you know, and I've with twenty six episodes of this and I've been in ER and Space Cowboys and Clint Eastwood and Yeah, you'll know him for twenty years and he won't tell a single story about that, you know. And he should. I mean, he was in Poltergeist the Legacy T V series for Pete's sake. I re
speaker-0 (01:46:26.094)
Remember he was in the movie, a low budget movie called Bad Meat many, many years ago. And I and I I had seen Bad Meat before I met Billy Whirley. Great dude, great actor, and great producer as well. There it is. The guest, wonderful, the movie, perplexing. Correct. As I said, I stand by it. I think I will buy the 4K, but there's gonna always gonna be something that just type up makes me scratch my head about old Bubba Hotep.
speaker-1 (01:46:37.058)
Yep. Well there you have it. Yep.
speaker-1 (01:46:43.319)
Yes. Correct.
speaker-1 (01:46:53.036)
watch it again if it were on. I don't know if I would seek it out to watch it again. Yeah, I don't know.
speaker-0 (01:46:57.762)
Bubba Hotep, a perplexing but also enjoyable film with Bruce Campbell and Ossi Davis. Boom. Sold on this episode. Sold on doing another one. How about you?
speaker-1 (01:47:04.13)
Yeah, sold.
speaker-1 (01:47:08.716)
Absolutely, are you kidding me? Sign me up.
speaker-0 (01:47:11.054)
And in that case, have a wonderful week and we will chat very, very soon.
speaker-1 (01:47:17.24)
Sounds good, you too, my friend. Okay, bye!
speaker-0 (01:47:24.856)
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