The Masses Have Awakened & the Deep State is PANICKING — Mel K Interview

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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.

Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.

After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.

He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.

Seth Holehouse: 01:31

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So as we look ahead to 2024, I see so many issues. Not only are they indicting Trump again, but there's been talk of climate lockdowns, a second pandemic. I mean, it seems like they will pull anything possible to make sure that Trump does not get into the White House in 2024.

Seth Holehouse: 01:55

So what's this gonna look like? What are their potential moves? How can we counteract them? So joining me today is a good friend and a brilliant host as well. That's Mel Kay, and we're gonna be diving into exactly what's happening now heading into 2024.

Seth Holehouse: 02:10

Mel, it is such a pleasure to have you back on the show. Thank you so much for joining us today.

Mel K: 02:16

Well, thank you for having me. You know, we've been on this journey together. We see each other in real life. We see each other on the screen. We follow each other.

Mel K: 02:22

And I have to say, you are to me one of the best researchers and somebody that I really look to when I'm doing my own work. So I'm really, really honored to be here.

Seth Holehouse: 02:31

Thank you. I think I could say the exact same about you. Remember first, I think it may cross you on SGT report. Like, who's this Mel Kaggar? She's like, she's really well read.

Seth Holehouse: 02:41

And that was one thing that stood out actually is a lot of people that they might know a little bit about a lot of things, but you go deep on subject and it's apparent you've read a lot, which is important. And that's an area that I really want to find the time to do more of is go really deep into these books, into the history, because I think that there's nothing new under the sun. And a lot of what we're experiencing now has been written about for a very long time. And I think you've done a good job decoding that. There's so much that we could be talking about with the central bank digital currency and the rollout of this global technocracy.

Seth Holehouse: 03:16

But what I'd like to hunt in for today, because I know that you are a pure blooded American. You love this country and you obviously, you would put your life on the line for it because you are on the front line in this information war. And so when you look at what's happening right now with the weaponization of our own government against We The People, that's frightening. When you look at what they're doing with President Trump, that's frightening. I mean, we know that he was recently indicted again for basically for what he, his denial of the twenty twenty election, which as far as I'm concerned, recent poll show more than half of the Americans actually think there was foul play in 2020.

Seth Holehouse: 04:01

So, I mean, let's just start there. What do you what what do you make of this indictment?

Mel K: 04:06

Well, first and foremost, it's a desperate act of people that I believe have already given up on The United States, the constitution, and certainly do not care about We the People or this country or what will happen to this country with what they're doing. This is very, very dangerous, and we have this Biden regime has really made a mess of the entire world, and now the entire world is looking at us, you know, licking their chops as they watch America be destroyed from within by our own people. And, and that is a real problem. The American people, I don't care if you think that you are on a side. You are not on a side because the people that are manipulating this nation, you do not matter no matter what you are, who you are, what you align with, Democrat, Republican, whatever it is.

Mel K: 04:51

There is a uniparty that I believe is fully captured, and then there is a class of billionaire oligarch globalists that have been involved for a long time. You and I have traced this all the way back to, you know, be it the the Federal Reserve Act, or the murder of JFK forward. There's been a ongoing coup, and that coup has been leading towards a global governance that they don't hide and they talk about. But what they do also talk about is that they do not seem to care that we, the people, know that. They they don't seem to care because here's the crazy part that I look at.

Mel K: 05:26

You said I read a lot, and I I've read a lot. So for me, when I look at the whole system, and like you said, I've read a lot, I looked back to when when the machines really first came in, you know, and there are statements by people in the Nixon administration and the Ford administration that talk about implementing the machines. I also think people should look very closely at what we were told happened between Bush Gore and what really happened between Bush Gore. Because I think that at that time and a lot of these same people are the puppet masters behind the scenes. They are what we call or I call some people call the deep state, but they're the bureaucracy that really, really functions back there.

Mel K: 06:02

The military industrial complex that has a lot of say, the think tanks, these people, a lot of them have not changed in this time. And if they have, they've grown people from what I call the poison ivy league to take their places. And as time goes on, what you can look at is that hanging Chad's scenario where that was going on. You should also look at what else was going on, which was there was a narrative being passed throughout our government, obviously fed through some of the NGOs and think tanks that the people could not be trusted to count the vote, that they needed to rely on machines and computers and software because then it would be more efficient and more fair, and the Bush score would never happen again. So I think that the long game of getting the machines in, because like Stalin said, it doesn't matter who votes or who they vote for, it matters who counts the votes.

Mel K: 06:55

And I think that it's been a long game because you can't look back at 2016 and see Hillary Clinton, all the celebrities that came out and said electors should stand up. You know, Maxine Waters were asking all these same characters saying that Trump wasn't legit or Russiagate that Russia cheated for him or the Seth Rich, Julian Assange debacle and not say, well, then aren't they all guilty too? These charges are totally bogus charges, first and foremost, and then we all know what happened. There's a lot of evidence that was never seen. The other side says it was debunked, but, really, it was thrown out of court for standing in most places.

Mel K: 07:32

And, bigger than that, we all know that the Hunter Biden laptop was real. They had it since 2019. They lied about it to the American people. Therefore, in a democracy, if the people do not get honest information from the government and the press, it cannot be an honest election. So whatever he's going for, Jack Smith, he didn't get insurrection or seditious conspiracy because it wasn't true.

Mel K: 07:56

And it was so outlandish to twist and turn lawfare to make it true that what he went for, I believe, sets them up to actually have Trump and his lawyers, if they're good, bring out the evidence of 2020, and let's see what really happened there. So for me, I I look at this more as a as a mistake on their part and, something that, again, will lead people to say on both sides, what has happened to our nation? And if this is true, how far back does it go?

Seth Holehouse: 08:28

Yeah. It's interesting because it's one of the basic rules of if you're gonna sue somebody, be careful because you might get opened up for discovery. So it's kind of like, you don't throw rocks if you live in a glass house. And so as we look towards 2024, and this is something I've really been pondering and I'd like to have, I'm trying to have Gerald Flynn back on soon. So I want to get his take on this as well is like, is what happens in 2024 because, okay, in, if you look back at 2020, you know, what was the position in this battlefield?

Seth Holehouse: 09:02

What was the enemy position? It's like, well, they controlled the media. They controlled the social media fully. There were not a lot of massive followings of independent channels at that time. You had a couple of big ones on YouTube, but they got rid of those before the election in a way that, you know, rumble wasn't big enough to counteract that.

Seth Holehouse: 09:22

Right? So they had so much more control. And I think in a lot of ways they just, they got, they had Trump on the front page on the headline news every night for four years, just drilling in this brainwashing, these techniques of the programming of Trump races, Trump bigot, Trump in Nazis. So people start foaming and they get triggered when they hear Trump's, you know, Trump's name. But if we look at where we're at in 2024, there's even the polls coming out are showing that Joe Biden's lost significant support.

Seth Holehouse: 09:55

He means one of the most hated presidents in history. Trump's numbers are going so strong. Even Ron DeSantis, I think they wanted to be their their GOP front man, With even Soros coming out, didn't say a chance against him. So obviously they're trying the law fair, they're trying to indict him and to do all these things, you know, just like they tried to impeach him all these times. But there's a good chance it won't just it's like water off a duck's back.

Seth Holehouse: 10:22

And so entering into this, as I look at it, I'm thinking, well, they have lost control in a lot of ways of the media because like, look at how viewership numbers have plummeted since 2020. No one's watching CNN. No one's watching Fox even who we know was very complicit in the theft of the election. The independent news channels like yourself, like what I'm doing, like like so many other people who said, I'm going go and start and become my own new show, have grown so much. Elon's got Twitter.

Seth Holehouse: 10:54

So the really the biggest digital public square, as far as I can see, there's no indication he's going to censor discussion about theft of the twenty twenty four election. We had 2,000 mules. We had so much momentum now that to me, it's like they, wouldn't be able to steal it because there's so many things that are actually, they don't have their favorite and they just barely got by with it in 2020. And so do you think that they'll even allow an election? Do you think there's going be some sort of false flag?

Seth Holehouse: 11:26

Or I I mean, I know that they're they're really, you know, foaming the mouth for World War three, but I what do you what do you think their playbook is to make sure that Trump doesn't get in?

Mel K: 11:37

Well, I think they are going to try that. But in the meantime, this is why I say take it back to the citizens. Take it back local. Take back your power. You were blessed by God to be born in the great United States.

Mel K: 11:48

Take it personally. Forget that there are two sides. You you are living in an illusion. That is not true. Not at this point.

Mel K: 11:55

If you are picking any side right now other than team America against this globalist elite oligarchy that has captured our nation and most of the world, you are picking the wrong team, and we won't really have a choice. I do believe that they're gonna try everything. I think that they are going to actually try climate lockdowns. I have watched the, the march toward this. It is completely insane, not even remotely backed by science, but they saw how to do it during COVID.

Mel K: 12:22

They have brainwashed a lot of our children, all the way up to their mid twenties, the way up to Hollywood is totally in on it, which we can talk about later. That's imploding all on its own. But at the same time, we gotta say no. Like, that's the other thing. We we are lucky.

Mel K: 12:38

I never was I never went back to YouTube after I was kicked off before the election for, you know, medical disinformation because me and doctor Zelenko did too many shows. But but I have to say, a lot of people did stick it out there, but Rumble has grown, and and they can't stop Twitter now. And, you know, the Facebook files just came out totally ignored. Let's see what the Google files and YouTube files look like too. There are 20 attorney generals that are challenging the attorney generals that are fighting the government shutting down free speech.

Mel K: 13:10

So there's a whole other side, so you know who's in on it. I just feel like they're very exposed. I think it's very easy to see what is happening to our nation, that it is not the constitutional republic or even the constitutional system or or manageable where it is. I'm actually writing a book called Americans Anonymous, a 12 step recovery program for the American citizen. And I'll tell you right now, the first step is realizing that our country has become unmanageable and that we, the people, are addicted to conflict and chaos.

Mel K: 13:42

And that conflict and chaos makes us sitting ducks for the one party system that I believe will not be American. It'll be agenda 02/1930 globalist. Biden and Obama have been in on that since 2013, '20 '15 when Obama announced agenda 2,030 and the sustainable development goals, which I keep reminding people, please look at them and decode the Klaus Schwabian because the sustainable development goals are only sustainable for the globalist elite oligarchy. They're not sustainable is not sustainable. It's controllable, manageable, you know, track and trace surveillance able.

Mel K: 14:17

You know, it's just so obvious to me that these people are desperate, and I believe what's going on in our nation is desperate. And I think the best thing about it too is I've always wondered how are we going to because I believe firmly, left of center and right of center right now do not really align with the far right or the far left. And I think there's a lot less of them than there are us. And if they wanna fight amongst themselves, great. But I wanna be on team America.

Mel K: 14:44

That is left of center, right of center. Maybe we disagree on three issues, but I bet we agree on hundreds of issues, including values, what America stands for, what we want for this nation, what we want for our futures. And I see real opportunity because of pages maybe me four years ago or you when you started are now same thing happened to me just last week. A big you know, I spent twenty years in Hollywood. Most people there are still they're all faxed and boosted up.

Mel K: 15:09

They're out there picketing now thinking that it's gonna change anything, and it's probably not. And, they they, you know, hate Trump to the core on, like, a visceral level when when I was younger and would go to the Golden Globes and Trump would be there. Some of those people would wait in line to meet him. You know? So it's just been true.

Mel K: 15:26

They're global citizens. They're all into the global stuff. But one guy who's been in that business a long time totally in the cult texted me the other day saying, is at first it was like he put me off because I voted for Trump. And then came back around after he saw the Melchase show somewhere and was like, is that you? And then we've been back and forth.

Mel K: 15:44

Sent me a text last week and said, I think you might be right about this globalist type of oligarchy class of people that's manipulating the world. I thought it was crazy, but the more I look at it and look into it and think about it, there's a lot of evidence that I didn't see that I see now. He said, I don't think it's nefarious like you do, but I see it. And I said, you keep digging. It is nefarious.

Mel K: 16:08

But, again, people are just they know they've been lied to, and I think that creates a good righteous indignation amongst people that feel that they have been purposefully deceived. And once you start going down that path, I truly believe that, as I always say, once you know you're being propagandized, it doesn't work. And so I think a lot of the propaganda is failing because the people that are putting out the propaganda are proving to be liars and shills and bribed or paid off. And this whole technocracy of experts that are supposed to be ushering us into the fourth industrial revolution are being proven to just be puppets in this like you said before, they had a plan. It was called agenda 21.

Mel K: 16:55

You know? There was a lot of disruption. It became agenda twenty thirty. And and for me personally, I truly believe that this is more about agenda 2,030 and that all of these people are committed to it by by blood, by mind, by money in every way that a lot of the people that are manipulating our government and governments around the world that meet at Bilderberg and Davos and Sun Valley and at the UN and all these places, that they have committed their lives and their futures and their fortunes to agenda 02/1930. And by any means necessary, they will have to achieve that or they are done.

Mel K: 17:29

And I think that includes and agenda 02/1930 has a lot more to do with the financial system, resources, population, sustainable development goals, as I said before, and I say again, sustainable for them, for them to keep this control power. And I think also, Seth, a lot of people going with a doubt of people waking up. A lot of people are now taking a step back and saying, how is it possible that what happened in The United States happened in every United Nations country. Every country that was that has the IMF, the World Bank, the Bank of International Settlements, and a UN membership followed the exact same plan, the exact same motion, the exact same stuff. And then you do what I do a lot, which is follow the money.

Mel K: 18:17

So you go to the World Health Organization or the World Economic Forum or the UN or IPCC or or what whatever, Chantham House, you know, council foreign relations. And you just kinda start looking around, and you realize that all of these groups have the exact same language about everything. And and that's why I say, yeah. They're gonna say conspiracy theory, but I say conspiracy and go prove it to yourself by looking at their own words. And that's where I think we are on a global scale.

Mel K: 18:47

I do a lot of shows with them. I have a handful of people around the world that I I have on, and I go on their shows. And I do believe that this is a worldwide thing. I've always said I didn't I thought it was naive to think that what's happening now is about America. I think America is in the way of the agenda twenty thirty great resetters, and end of America is the most important piece for them to then force the rest of the world in.

Mel K: 19:13

But at this point, I really believe that a lot of the things have backfired. And don't forget, it's not only our election that had these anomalies. It's been elections all over the world. It's not just us, I believe, that are being forced through a color revolution for the last five years. This has happened all over the world, and people are starting to see the patterns.

Mel K: 19:33

They're starting to connect the dots, and they're starting to arrive at a place where they're saying there is a, as I could say, a billionaire globalist aligned oligarchy of a public private partnership where the corporations and the banks are doing the dirty work, circumventing our governments, probably by bribery and blackmail, especially through the IMF and USAID and all of that. And we are in a scenario where we are the majority, and I think it's worldwide. So I feel very positive. I'm sorry that Donald Trump is the man in the front, but I also believe that Donald Trump knew that he would be. And when he started dismantling their their agenda 2030, which included the Paris Climate Accords, which includes NATO.

Mel K: 20:15

I believe he was going to go after the UN, which includes pulling out of the World Health Organization, which includes the most dangerous to me, the world curriculum of the UNESCO. He was dismantling all of their their mechanisms for the sustainable development goals they put in, and here we are. And I I truly believe that the American people have to realize that this isn't about Trump, and it's honestly not about Biden. It's not about left or right. I believe that this group of people that own DC and and the think tanks and the lobbyists that are controlling our government are already committed to the end of the nation state that is known as The United States Of America by any means necessary because if they lose, the other side for them is not gonna be good.

Mel K: 21:02

And you know what? I have to tell you. I have a lot of Trump haters or or libertarians. I do shows with and stuff, and all of them are like, well, if Trump's gonna get in there and go scorched earth on these people and take out 80% of these people, great. I'm voting for them.

Mel K: 21:15

And I think that's what's happening too.

Seth Holehouse: 21:17

That's a good point. One thing I wanna hone on a bit that you mentioned a couple of times is the climate lockdowns. And this is something that I've been thinking about as well. Similar we talked about twenty twenty election, it's fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. So like, okay, how are they going do that again in 2024?

Seth Holehouse: 21:36

Now, COVID caught a lot of people off guard. You know, and it was the most perfect psychological operation playing on our fear and our shame and our guilt and, you know, the attacking the family bonds, putting us into isolation. I mean, it was a brilliant operation objectively. But I think that there would be, there's probably far less people in America. You look in America right now that would put up with it again, that if they said, Oh my goodness, now it's Marburg.

Seth Holehouse: 22:10

They're going to say, look, I lost my business because of your COVID stuff. And we found out it had ninety nine point something survival rate. I'm not going to go along with this. Or I lost my friend of your vaccine. I'm not going along with this.

Seth Holehouse: 22:23

And so and I was wondering too, because I know there's been a lot of talk to talk about Marburg or Ebola or hemorrhagic fever. And it was always like, okay, what's the next step of this? Because, you know, it was like, is there gonna be another pandemic just in time for the election? But then what we're also seeing is the climate lockdowns. And now, you know, of audience knows I recently went through a big move, I haven't revealed where I've gone to because I literally, was in Ohio, like a side note, and I didn't tell anybody where I live.

Seth Holehouse: 22:52

I was like, oh, I'm kind of in Central Eastern Ohio. Like I had folks showing up to my house somehow. Like they figured out where I lived. It was really, really creepy. Even well intentioned people is like, you know, that made me uncomfortable.

Seth Holehouse: 23:06

So now I'm just saying that I've moved somewhere, but I can say that, you know, in Ohio and Pennsylvania, because I spent a lot of time driving, I spent a lot of in Pennsylvania as well, that you could see the geo engineering is just through the roof. I mean, it was like, we would see it. We'd see, okay, nonstop chemtrails for ten days, then like brilliant, violent wind and hailstorms. And so you can see that the same way that I believe there's mechanisms from the control outbreaks, whether it's five gs or there's lot of different kind of thoughts on that. But I think that what it is, is that they, you know, through HARP and also through five gs and all these other mechanisms and through overall geoengineering, that they have the ability to turn certain parts of our country into pressure cookers, high heat or freezing.

Seth Holehouse: 23:56

And so you can see that along with the kind of layering of how even the meteorologists now the same temperature map, Right? So five years ago, was green and yellow. Now it's like red and orange. It looks like the whole place is on fire. It's the same temperatures as it was.

Seth Holehouse: 24:13

Like, you can see all these indicators. And so, and also, I think it was Epoch Times, recently had an article about how a lot of these oil, big oil executives are concerned that there's going to be climate lockdowns. Like there's people that are actually speaking out about this. So how, because as we talked about before, I think that they're going to have to pull something to make sure that 2024 doesn't go as normal, or even anything close to resembling normal. So how do you think climate lockdowns would actually like in a practical way, how would they be implemented and how could they possibly get all these Americans who are already so sick of the government telling them what to do, how will they be able to accomplish this?

Mel K: 24:56

Well, first and foremost, I don't think they can. But I I will say that, there was one of many ways that Trump can prove that the twenty twenty election was, was sketchy is there was a Swiss billionaire named Wiss, w y s s. First name, Hans Berg Wiss, The Wiss Foundation. He gave $300,000,000 to beat Trump. Okay?

Mel K: 25:19

But he also was a big champion and gave tons of money to Joe Biden and to many campaigns surrounding him, all of that. The problem with that is he happens to be a Swiss national that is very aligned with Klaus Schwab, the World Economic Forum, and especially the International Banking Cartel, as I call them. Well, he had his has a group, a biodiversity foundation that he funds. I mean, this guy's got billions of dollars, and he's put it all in on but it's all in on climate emergency. And he really needed Joe Biden in there.

Mel K: 25:52

Like, why what was this guy's thing? And I I still go back to they all agreed on agenda twenty thirty. But whatever the case may be so he put out a whole document, his group. I believe it's like a center for biodiversity. But, again, everyone has to follow the money.

Mel K: 26:09

There's 10 billionaires, I believe, that are manipulating our country right now. This guy somehow happens to be one of them. Also close friends with George Soros. Not a surprise. But, so what they did is they put together an entire, document.

Mel K: 26:23

I I'm sure you remember Joe Biden was standing with Kerry in front of I believe he was in Boston, and he had this document from the Center for Biodiversity and and some kind of equity in in environment stuff, you know, the all the all the the code names of for Marxism and communism. And he went through that he could have a climate emergency, carry his climate czar, which is laughable, whose daughter was just appointed to the World Health Organization somehow. But, you know, the same oligarch billionaires, he says that they're they're probably gonna have to call a climate emergency. Well, what does that even mean? Well, what that does mean and what they've put into action here and what Wiese and these people have been paying for is a bunch of think tanks, a bunch of lobbyists, and a slew.

Mel K: 27:10

The 30 executive orders that popped on the scene right the day Biden went into office as if it wasn't planned, they all align with that same concept that the government, I e, the president, can call an emergency for any reason, and they started working into all of that language, something about biodiversity and and, you know, environmental equity and and all of these, like, terms. So when just like the World Health Organization has now worked climate change, climate emergency into all of their stuff. So when I say that these people are all working in tandem, so what I believe is now the goal, there was recently and this is why I talk about the World Health Organization. Recently, at the World Health Organization, they redefined a pandemic. And in that redefinition of a pandemic, while they're also pushing the plandemic treaty, which people should know.

Mel K: 28:08

Do not believe what you're hearing. The Biden administration is put has proposed amendments that literal totalitarian dictatorships are rejecting. It is so giving our country's health sovereignty over to Tedros and the CCP and Bill Gates, basically, at the World Health Organization through this pandemic treaty. Joe Biden is set to sign it, and people should know that, another reason that you really have to stand up now. But in that, they redefined climate emergency as a global pandemic that could then trigger the World Health Organization to call a global health pandemic that all of the countries that are involved in agenda 02/1930 and the UN will have to follow the rules of the World Health Organization worldwide.

Mel K: 29:00

Now the scary part about this is that the CDC and the FDA are behind that as is the Biden administration. But on the other side, you know, something like that should really go through Congress. But we don't we don't have a government that's functioning. They don't respect the constitution or the bill of rights, but they have put in many mechanisms, especially through the executive orders, to call a similar lockdown for climate emergency. And what they would say is basically that, you know, either the atmosphere, the water, the something, or or it could be a health scare of some sort, that that that is that that is there's such a serious situation.

Mel K: 29:40

I mean, for me, I'm worried because I in New York, as you know, I just left New York City myself. You know, they were putting up ads about if a nuclear a small nuclear attack hit New York City, how to prepare. And I'm thinking you can't prep what is this nonsense? So I think by the any means necessary. Also, the people of The United States and and what I really want is people to understand that this is not about Trump or Biden.

Mel K: 30:03

This is not about left or right. This is not about Republican or Democrat at all. They're both totally corrupt to the core. What it is about is this push towards this global governance because what they also signed off on that a lot of people don't know is something called thirty and thirty, which would be by 2030 2030. You know?

Mel K: 30:25

By 2030, '30 percent of the land would be controlled by the climate change mafia. So, basically, everyone that wants our money, a lot of people should look into COP twenty seven and twenty six. These are the prints of persons started by Al Gore and and Clinton and a young lawyer from Chicago named Barack Obama that started the whole climate emergency chaos. And this idea that you can buy carbon credits, it's also insane. But in all of these things is this kind of push towards a brainwashing and a mind control that climate is caused by humans.

Mel K: 31:07

Therefore, human behavior has to be ceased or the Earth will no longer exist. And by putting it in in the pandemic framework and that it's a global pandemic, that's how I think they would do it if they could do it. I personally think that the people of The United States would say, we're not doing that. The planet has been here a lot longer than us. There's plenty of evidence all over the place that it's not human caused, certainly not only.

Mel K: 31:34

And if it is human caused, why are they having a war, a nuclear war, when the worst thing for the environment or none is war and making and testing weapons and bioweapons and all this stuff they're doing. And then the next level of what's worse for the environment are the global public private partners of the multinational corporations that are in bed with the World Economic Forum. If anyone's causing climate problems, it's them. Your chemtrails are them testing stuff or or Bill Gates and MIT trying to block the sun or all this geoengineering because the great part about planet that we should all realize is that the planet also has an immune system and can heal itself if people stop messing with it. So for me, I believe that they would do the climate lockdown the same way they did the COVID lockdowns.

Mel K: 32:23

And I believe that they put the mechanisms in place that it would be the exact same format.

Seth Holehouse: 32:28

And that's how I see it playing out too. I mean, they might have different ways of of you kind of bringing it forth. But I imagine that eventually they're gonna say, you know, hey, if you're on YouTube or social media, you can't question the climate narrative because you're no longer threatening your grandma by spreading misinformation with a vaccine. You're threatening the future of the human race. And they've done a great job with that.

Seth Holehouse: 32:52

It's like, well, why can't I open my wood fired pizza business? Like, well, because you're gonna kill everybody on earth. It's like, oh, okay. Yeah. Okay, great.

Seth Holehouse: 33:04

But, you know, so I wanna see, it's interesting because, you know, both of us spend a lot of time living in this headspace and it's a dark and frightening place. Like sometimes I think to myself, gosh, why did I do a podcast? I'm like cooking or like, why did I end up being the guy that's like, here's how the globalists are going to kill us all. It's a, it's a tough thing to grapple with, but I think that maybe it's like, you know, God chose us because we can do it with a smile and we can say, Hey, there's still hope people like we're not all going to die. Actually, they're probably not going do so well, these people.

Seth Holehouse: 33:42

But what are some of the signs, the indicators that you're seeing, whether it's from your travels across country and you're speaking or just in your research, these strong indicators that show people like there, here's real proof that the cabal, the deep state, whatever you wanna call them, they are frantic, They're scared. They're losing control. And actually, that they're most scared of us collectively as we, the people.

Mel K: 34:12

Yeah. I mean, to me, that's the most obvious thing. First year yeah. I've been driving all over the country. We kind of took COVID and and made it a nonstop.

Mel K: 34:21

We've been in 28 states, and we drive. You know? And I have to tell you, I have yet yet to sit next to one person because we always try to when we get into somewhere, we find out from the, you know, maitre d' or whoever's at the front desk, you know, where's the local place? We don't wanna go to the best restaurant in town. We don't wanna wanna go to the fancy place.

Mel K: 34:40

We wanna go where the real people that live here hang out. You know? And we're we get off when we're tired, so it could be anywhere in America. And I have yet to sit next to anyone that doesn't think that Washington DC is a total, like, dumpster fire, that it's totally lost its way. Most people in America on a massive scale.

Mel K: 34:59

And and, you know, I I talked I do reawaken. I do other tours. I was just at Turning Point. I also do very small things. I was just with a bunch of awesome seniors over there in the villages.

Mel K: 35:09

You know, I have yet to meet somebody who doesn't isn't disgusted with the media and the government, but they're also now looking at, well, what is really going on here and how do we fix it? And people are asking, how do we fix it? We, meaning me. What can I do? And I think that's key.

Mel K: 35:30

What can you do? And the first thing I think we have to do, and we have the ability to kind of help push this along, is we have to look at our relationship with government in general. You know, the people are the government in America. This is why they wanna destroy us because we, the people united, are the most dangerous thing to the global oligarch of all. And and I I think that first things first is we have to wonder, you know, you and I, we've we've traveled different paths, but we've been around all kinds of people.

Mel K: 36:01

People have great education and great wealth and people that, you know, are hardworking blue collar people. And at the end of the day, you know, if you're not in that space, that political space or this elitist type, you know, where we gotta tell the peasants how to live, kind of agree on a lot of things. And one of those things should be that the government works for us, and we can redefine that. We have agreed agreed by going along with it to give up a lot of our rights that are inalienable, but on top of that are we were born free, and we need to demand that we remain free. So we can we have given our agreement or whatever to certain things along the way.

Mel K: 36:40

Say, the EPA telling you you can't, you know, go on a piece of land on a hike because they say so. Well, who are they? You know? And and there's a lot of things that we, the people, have allowed to happen that have hurt our personal liberty. And I I think the biggest one is that when people get elected, first of all, who are the people?

Mel K: 37:01

And people have to really get involved before the primary because that's when the uni party knocks people out. Financially, they don't back them. If the RNC, DNC, win red, act blue does not back you before the primary, you're not getting in. And I believe if you will not keep the status quo of the uni party, they're gonna work to keep you out, and they're gonna work together to keep you out. So first things first, get very involved in the primary.

Mel K: 37:23

And if you can't find a champion in your local community, be that champion. Second, we have a upside down situation. I would say probably started, you know, around the around the time of the Federal Reserve, got worse around Kennedy. But when somebody's elected, somehow we have gotten into this thing where we treat them like they're above us. Not that they're working for us, not that they're civil servants, not that they should be audited every two years and monitored and all of their correspondence transparent as if they work for us, but, no, they elevate because we've allowed it themselves to being kings and queens and dukes and duchesses and and, you know, you know, princesses and princes, and they're not.

Mel K: 38:07

What they are is civil servants that should be treated as such. I firmly believe that there's a lot of things. I don't think senators or congresspeople should be able to live outside of the state that elected them. I think that they should only go to DC when they have to and when everyone else does for a vote or for a hearing. Otherwise, they should be in where their constituents are so that we, the people, can address them as we're supposed to.

Mel K: 38:31

And another thing is also, I I don't care anymore if you know who all of your elected politicians are. I want them to know who you are, and that should be important to you. And and what that means is because I firmly believe that this is a globalist thing, and I believe that the infiltration on the local level, meaning mayors Rahm Emanuel wrote a book, you know, ten years ago that mayors would run the country. Well, he's fully involved in the globalist cartel. You know?

Mel K: 38:59

Obama's the one that signed on to agenda 2030, and don't think there aren't kickbacks in being part of that club. But, you know, it goes from your mayor, your city council, your school board, all of that. People must understand the infiltration happened twenty years ago. It didn't happen now. Now it's at the top.

Mel K: 39:18

So we need to start when we talk about local action, we need to start treating them like they work for us, vetting them whether you did before or not, but also peeking around and seeing how they got there. What funding? What are they putting in contracts in the city council or the legislature that align with the sustainable development goals or even have the UN or the World Economic Forum or any of that that track and trace surveillance or any of this Internet of body, Internet of things. Like, I say everyone should be empowered with this with this information and then be Paul Revere in their community, in their neighborhood. You know, when I was little, there were a lot were a of robberies in my town.

Mel K: 39:56

I grew up outside of Philadelphia. And all the neighborhood parents got together, and they started a neighborhood watch. We need a neighborhood watch from the globalist infiltration in our neighborhood and local communities. Because, again, our school boards, a lot of that, it traces UNESCO one world curriculum. It traced to you know, they changed its common core.

Mel K: 40:16

It's still UNESCO. Bill Gates backed both of them. You know? And so it's just I just really think that people are starting to realize that it's bigger than than they think. And for their children and their grandchildren and the future of this nation, they wanna save it.

Mel K: 40:30

And I think that it's crossing race. I think it's crossing religious lines. I think it's crossing gender lines or whatever they're they're calling that. And, I really think the power is in the hands of the people. And once you start it, I think courage is contagious.

Mel K: 40:44

And, you know, so for me, I see that happening all over the country. Everywhere I go, I get invited to speak usually about the UN and and which I call the biggest fraud that happened to humanity in the last seventy five years. But, you know, people are awake, it's not partisan. It's really not. And I think that that's where, you know, that's where we win.

Mel K: 41:05

And I think that the majority of people are there. And if they haven't gotten up and they've been thinking all along, well, somebody else is gonna do it, they're getting to the place of the boiling point where they're like, well, I'm gonna just go do it. And and I think that's that's a great sign, and I believe that's happening on a massive scale.

Seth Holehouse: 41:22

And what's it's helpful for me to remind myself this is that I really I I think the greatest tool that we have in this fight is actually free will. And if enough people, and that's why getting this information out is so important. And I hope that you folks are watching and listening can share this with one to 10 people because that's the one thing like that, because that, that to me ties back to something very divine that God gave us. It's what the founders recognized is that we have free will and their system, whether it's climate lockdowns or COVID two point zero or what, you know, central bank digital currency, whatever it is, it can only work if enough people say, yes, I will do it. It's like, I remember back when, you know, say a few months into the pandemic when the mask mandates came out, I remember I was the only person a lot of times in the entire grocery store is not wearing a mask.

Seth Holehouse: 42:21

And if it was, you know, I think I did mean like the first week or two, because I just, you know, and actually I made like a bandana, which I thought was kind fun anyway. And then I was like, okay, this is actually like, I'm not going go along with this because there's some sort of much deeper thing here. But I remember that, like, I just, and people will walk up to me and say, employee and say, Sir, can please have a mask on? I'd say, Nope, I just go. I'll go about my way.

Seth Holehouse: 42:45

Right? I just keep shopping. And I never once really had much of an issue, but occasionally I'd see that other person that also wasn't wearing a mask and they would see me. I'd see them. We'd smile at each other and we'd talk and it'd be like, you want to think about this stuff?

Seth Holehouse: 43:00

I think it's all crazy. And you know, and the, the, the unity that happened at that point, it's like, well, imagine if you know, they're like, okay, you know, masks required and you walk into a grocery store and half the people are not wearing a mask. They have no way of enforcing that. The stores are going to kick out half of its customers. They'll kick out one of them.

Seth Holehouse: 43:21

They can lose the business of one person. Right. And so I think that's just such an important lesson is that whatever it is, whether it's them forcing, you know, mandating a vaccine or masks or lockdowns or whatever it is. I think that we just have to just say no, like to say, I will not comply. I will not comply.

Seth Holehouse: 43:42

And that's it. And if enough people just say no and refuse to comply, I think their entire thing collapses like a house of cards.

Mel K: 43:52

Yeah. I agree with that. And I also think that we have to, like I said, I think righteous indignation right now for what these people have done to us on a global scale. And I really think that if you just can get somebody we're not gonna meet in the middle on some things. Okay?

Mel K: 44:07

But if you can just get to somebody with logic and thought and reason and they're open at all, I think we have a very good shot of an open conversation with RFK junior voters right now. If you are a conservative, as I identify as, I do not believe in the RNC or DNC. I'm fully convinced that they are a uniparty that benefit from the status quo, and nothing changes if we don't force change, and we haven't till now. So we are in a very, very good position, I think, because of COVID. I say there's silver linings of COVID.

Mel K: 44:39

One of them is that over time, have come to believe one thing or another that before COVID, they believed impossible, that they thought this is not and there's many choices to pick from. But I do believe that it's about us talking. And I think what you just said about not complying and also every move that you make, I think we have to be very mindful. And we've been very lazy because we're very spoiled in America. We have it really good.

Mel K: 45:06

We haven't really felt the very, very serious consequences of true famine or a true breakdown of our grid or any of these things that could happen. We've had a little here and there, inflation, whatever. Central bank digital currency, we should be fighting against tooth and nail. That you can do local as well. States can stop that.

Mel K: 45:28

Localities can stop that. But saying no, but also making sure that every move you make is moving you closer towards freedom, closer towards liberty, closer towards sovereignty, more deregulated, but being very deliberate about it. Not because you're picking a side or you feel aligned with anyone. There are no heroes to follow right now. The hero to follow is the god's voice inside your head and inside your heart and your family.

Mel K: 45:57

But I I do believe that it takes a little bit of retraining, which is why I'm writing, a 12 step type book because the addiction that I'm identifying in the book that I'm working on is I believe that we've become addicted to chaos and addicted to conflict and that we, the people, are so addicted to this feeding of twenty four hour news cycle and the fighting on Twitter and the fighting here. And, you know, I get attacked more than most people out there from what I can see. And you know what? It's just constant. And and, you know, I'm at a point where I look at some of the comments or the attacks, and I think it is so stupid.

Mel K: 46:32

Like, it's not even it's not even affecting me anymore. But, again, that we are in a very contentious situation, and I think most of it's manufactured. I don't even think a lot of that is real. I truly believe that, like, human rights campaign and and some of these other groups that are very, these NGOs, certainly a lot of infiltration from the CCP on on some of these groups, the color revolution model, all of this stuff is keeping us divided and it's not real. It's very it's not organic.

Mel K: 47:01

This is not I don't believe. Like I said, I can't deal with the far right. I I don't I really can't, and and I don't agree with a lot of what's going on over there. Far left, I don't even think the left agrees with them. You know what I mean?

Mel K: 47:13

Like, I think it's way gone. Like, the LGBTQ plus thing went way farther than it was a bad call. It was just a bad call in the color revolution, really bad for them. But, you know, like I said, you can actually say to yourself, is this move I'm making? I say a lot on my show.

Mel K: 47:29

We have three things that are ours no matter what. You know? No matter what. We have our time. We have our money, and we have our vote.

Mel K: 47:36

And you know what? You can't think about the other side, but you can think about what you're doing. And I think you should take each one of them very seriously. Like, when I'm saying vote, I mean, now. Go go find the people in the primary now.

Mel K: 47:49

Give your money directly to the candidate that you've vetted personally. Find out that stuff. But, you know, and with our money, you know, find these multinational corporations, especially if they are owned by BlackRock, or controlled by BlackRock, are against We The People. They are already in the great reset. Fink and his friends have given America away.

Mel K: 48:10

They you know? So, again, every move you make from every dollar you spend to how you spend your time to if you spend your time, you know, in the name of maybe not you because you're older or you're retired or whatever, but how about your children, your grandchildren, your neighbor's children, you know, this nation itself, all the people that already died for this nation, and it turns out in many wars that were not what we were told. And there's just a lot of ways that you can reevaluate, but it's got to become a habit. We've gotten into the habit of not acting, of allowing. Like I said, we've given our agreement or our consent.

Mel K: 48:47

Consent of the government is how this is supposed to work. We've given our agreement and consent oftentimes because we're not paying attention or we're distracted or feeding the chaos and conflict monster. And at the same time, if we took a step back and really looked at what mattered, our family, love, community, compassion, empathy, helping people, when we went back to the basics, it would become a lot clearer how to go forward. And and I just really think, like you said, courage is contagious, and be the first one to do it. Start a group in your neighborhood like Neighborhood Watch and say, you know, we're we're looking for solutions so that everyone in the community can start seeing each other and waving again regardless.

Mel K: 49:26

I don't wanna know your politics. I just wanna meet you on the street as another human being and a friend possibly, like we used to. So I really think that we are in a place where people are there and the righteous indignation of knowing that what is really going on is a global governance model that was long planned that they are desperate to put into place by 02/1930. I do not know what the 02/1930 number, why they came up with that, but I just I ask everyone out there that's still saying, well, how could that be? Or, you know, how could there there would be have to be so many people involved.

Mel K: 50:02

No. There wouldn't. But there would have to be very powerful agencies that control all the financial systems in the world along with the multinational corporations, the public private partnership that are circumventing our constitution and bill of rights to manipulate our behavior without going through legal ramifications. And instead of us seeing that, we go along with it because of comfort or because I wanna buy I wanna see that movie or I wanna you know, I wanna order from Amazon. It's easier.

Mel K: 50:29

I wanna do this, or I wanna do that. Or these are the these are the people the Republicans told me I can vote for. You know? It's just all these different things. I just think every move has to be very purposeful till your habits change, and everything has to be based on, am I moving closer towards freedom, liberty, sovereignty, or am I moving away from it?

Seth Holehouse: 50:47

Important words. So, Mel, where can people follow your work?

Mel K: 50:54

They can follow my work. I am my main hub is melkayshow.com. I do wanna tell everyone everything that I'm saying today. I've put together a really, really extensive resource page where you can look up a lot of things I'm talking about. You can look at a very good chart that'll show you what I believe is the, people that are involved in the controlled demolition of America from within and, lots of things you can look up there also, who your senators are, your congresspeople, what they voted on, who's running where you are, lots of things.

Mel K: 51:24

So please, that's really important. I'm all over on every free speech platform. I say on every show, I am not on Telegram. If you are following me there, you are being misled. I know whoever has my channels there, they I can't take them down because Telegram is owned by a foreign oligarch, but they put up content from other people, and they sell lots of crap I would never sell.

Mel K: 51:45

So I'm not on Telegram, and I am not on YouTube. So I do ask that you go to one of those places if you wanna follow me. Rumble's my main hub. And I'm all over the place there. I never got the Mel Kay show back on Twitter, but I have a little guy called Mel Kay show with no the.

Mel K: 52:00

I started in Instagram, the Mel Kay Show. And other than that, best place to find me or reach out to me, I do respond to my emails from the melkshow.com. And, honestly, it's just I do believe we're winning, and I think people really have to take back the power. You were blessed by God to live in this nation or to become a legal citizen. Take it personally, and don't be don't be part of a team.

Mel K: 52:22

The collectivism is our downfall. The individual liberty and standing up as an individual and grasping hands with other individuals is how we're going to win.

Seth Holehouse: 52:32

I couldn't agree more. Mel, thanks again for coming on. It's always, always fun catching up with you. And I think I'm coming on to your show next, so I'll make sure everyone gets those links once we do that as well. So thanks again, for You're welcome.

Mel K: 52:45

I'll let you talk when you come on my show because I talked here, but, you know, I'm staying patient. You are such a hero of mine. Your work is fabulous. Your wife is awesome. Please say hello.

Mel K: 52:53

God bless you. And I'm very And God bless your move. I hope it goes better than you can even expect.

Seth Holehouse: 52:59

Thank you.

Mel K: 53:00

In Vegas.

Seth Holehouse: 53:01

Perfect. Yep. I'll be there. Thank you. Bye bye.

Seth Holehouse: 53:03

Bye bye. Alright, folks. I've got a quick message for you. I have one simple question. If today you could no longer go purchase more food for your family, with the food stores that you have in your home, how long would you be able to feed your family?

Seth Holehouse: 53:20

Would it be a week, three weeks, a month, two months, a year? This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine. I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us.

Seth Holehouse: 53:49

And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food. So there's really two things I would recommend. One is having heirloom seeds that you can grow your own food with, making sure that they're non GMO heirloom seeds that that way you can harvest your seeds this year, use them next year. You can use these seeds for generations. Literally, it's how it will work.

Seth Holehouse: 54:13

The other thing though is this high quality storable food. This is food that's sitting somewhere, it's hidden in your basement, buried in your backyard, whatever it ever it is. So that way if there is a crisis, if there is an emergency, you might have three months set aside to get through that time period. And so for this, I would highly recommend a company called Heaven's Harvest. This is an amazing Christian owned patriot company, and what they're doing is they're making high quality storable food.

Seth Holehouse: 54:41

Again, lot of the food companies, they say these food buckets, they're all about maximizing calories per dollar. They're filling the buckets with a bunch of filler and junk like sweet beverages, etcetera. But Heaven's Harvest, they focus on very high quality food that will last up to twenty five years on the shelf. They also sell heirloom seeds. You can buy all of your seed, you can buy all of your restorable food.

Seth Holehouse: 55:03

And look folks, personally, I would recommend having at least three months per person in your household, if not six months or even a year. Again, depends on your budget, but definitely make sure you have some seeds because that seed those seeds could be worth their weight in gold, if not more in the future. So to go ahead and do this right now, go put up a new tab and go to heavensharvest.com. And if you use the promo code Seth, that's s e t h, promo code Seth, you'll save 15% off of your entire order. So again, folks, the time is running out and you'd rather be three months or one year early than one day late.

Seth Holehouse: 55:41

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