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We were essentially at a rock bottom financially and in our marriage.
Abram Langston:My wife's not wanting to follow a budget, and I can't make enough money, and just kind of a downward spiral.
Lizzie Langston:I felt layers and layers and layers of shame. So it wasn't just do this with your money. It was, oh, I can feel safe with money. That is my very psychic intuitive self that has actually totally tripled our income.
Kate Northrup:Hello. Hello. Today is the final installment of a series we do once a year where we feature case studies from our students. And today, we have Lizzie and Abe Langston who two years ago when they joined Relaxed Money, well, really when Lizzie joined Relaxed Money, they had lost a business in the pandemic. It was a brick and mortar, and they had really gone into some pretty profound financial stress as a result.
Kate Northrup:They're the parents of four kids, and the money stress was causing a tremendous amount of stress in their marriage as well. And Lizzie decided to dig in and change her financial life. And as a result, their marriage has been reaping the rewards. So while Abe did not dig into relaxed money in the way that Lizzie did, he has reaped the rewards and their marriage has changed, and they've made some sizable improvements in terms of their income to the tune of tripling one of their income sources. So I'm really excited for you to hear Lizzie and Abe's story as they dove into their relaxed money experience as a couple.
Kate Northrup:Enjoy.
Speaker 4:Welcome to Plenty, a weekly recalibration of power, money, and safety for high capacity humans. I'm Kate Northrup, best selling author and creator of Relaxed Money, and this is where neuroscience meets ancient wisdom meets real wealth strategy. This is the sacred conversation at the intersection of money, the body, and the life you're truly here to live. If you're ready to reimagine what's possible for yourself and for the world, you're in
Lizzie Langston:the right place. Let's go.
Kate Northrup:Welcome, Lizzie and Abram. Hi. Hi. I'm so happy to talk to both of you. I will just say it is always incredibly special for me to get to hear from couples who do this work together because part of the reason I got into this work is really because money was a huge issue with my parents.
Kate Northrup:And not the only reason, but one of the things that led to their divorce. So it feels like this beautiful full circle healing for, like, the extension of what I'm here to do when I get to talk to couples about this, and it is a completely by accident thing that this work helps so many pairs of folks. So thanks for being an example. I'm excited to hear more. My first question is, what was going on with you two?
Kate Northrup:And you can each, you know, answer individually, you know, bop back and forth, whatever. What was going on for you both when you heard about Relaxed Money for the first time, and how long ago was that?
Lizzie Langston:Yeah. So I joined the program. I found you and was like, Abe, I really feel like I need to do this. That was in spring twenty twenty four. But the background context was that we were essentially at a rock bottom financially and in our marriage.
Lizzie Langston:We had invested in a coworking space that we really believed in, so a brick and mortar company about a year before 2020, so 2019. So when the pandemic hit, you know, we were willing to work it out and try to keep paying rent, but the, you know, the government needed to in order to keep everyone safe, shut things down. And our business model was the more people in the building Yeah. The more we can do our business. And so we watched this dream of, you know, we wanted to be a vibrant staple in the community and give back.
Lizzie Langston:We're both entrepreneurs. We love that. And so we watched it just slowly suffocate, and then we were sued by the people because we broke our lease because we couldn't pay rent. And so the day that protections ended, there was a notice on our door. So that was in 2021, 2022.
Lizzie Langston:And Abe and I both took turns being kind of depressed on and off. We have three kids together. And so yeah. And money was
Abram Langston:We have four kids.
Lizzie Langston:Well, we did at the time. Yes.
Abram Langston:We did.
Lizzie Langston:Four kids today, but you're right.
Kate Northrup:We did.
Abram Langston:Yeah. At the time, three.
Kate Northrup:Yeah. We had that three. Oh, okay. There were yes. You were pregnant.
Kate Northrup:Got it. I'm like, wait. I'm sorry. Now there are four. There are four.
Lizzie Langston:But no more. Yes. We're good.
Kate Northrup:That's a lot.
Lizzie Langston:Is there anything else you wanna add
Kate Northrup:to that? It was a lot. It really was.
Abram Langston:Yeah. No. That was definitely a really tough time. And yeah. So we kinda had to figure things out, and we're still recouping from that.
Abram Langston:But, that was a big one.
Kate Northrup:Yeah. Financial healing takes time. Just like physical healing. Yep. My husband was hit by a car in 2022, and he's still in recovery.
Kate Northrup:That's the way these things go when we have injuries, whether they're financial, emotional, or physical. So I'm curious. You kinda spoke to the logistics of what was going on. Would either or both of you be open to talking about what was going on internally inside you? What was some of the internal dialogue, some of the fears, some of what you were grappling with emotionally?
Lizzie Langston:Oh, yes. Are you ready for that, Kate?
Kate Northrup:Are you sure? Yeah. Well,
Lizzie Langston:I think there was a moment where Abe sort of made an ultimatum because I had this really wobbly flight response with money where I just wanted to run away anytime he said the word budget. And I I swear I'm a good person, but it was just this fear. It it was not even logical in my mind, and I couldn't explain it, and I didn't understand it. So I felt me personally, I'll speak for me, and then, Abe, you can share. But I felt layers and layers and layers of shame.
Lizzie Langston:Shame that I wasn't a better partner financially, shame that we hadn't prepared, and my whole life as a youngest child was like, I don't wanna worry about money. I don't wanna think about it. So I felt really locked in shame. And as you've probably witnessed, when people are locked in shame, they don't actually make the best decisions. You know?
Lizzie Langston:And they don't show up as a great version of themselves. So it was really intense. There was a lot of fighting. Abe, is there anything you'd like to add? I was gonna come on here just by myself, and then yesterday, Mike was like, hey.
Lizzie Langston:What about Abe coming in? I thought, you know, that's actually the very human and vulnerable story. Yeah. Mhmm. I'm uncomfortable with that, but it's gonna be really good and helpful to people.
Kate Northrup:Yeah. It is really good and helpful. Thanks for being willing to pay it forward, Hugo. So, yeah, Abe, Abe, what would you wanna add?
Abram Langston:Very similar. This was kind of my entrepreneurial venture and having this coworking space get shut down. There was a lot of shame and just disappointment. Just like, man, can I do this? I'm not good enough, that whole thing.
Abram Langston:Being a man, there's kind of this pressure to provide for your family. And then you start to question I started questioning like, man, can I provide? What can I do? My wife's not wanting to follow a budget, and I can't make enough money. And, like, you know, just all those feelings, just kind of a downward spiral.
Kate Northrup:Yeah. It really is a downward spiral. Because when we add financial when we add emotional distress and all the stories that we tell about what the money means, it does really become this downward spiral. And and I don't know other places where there are tools to stop the spiral and have it start going the opposite direction. So Yes.
Kate Northrup:So there you were. It was spring twenty twenty four. You heard about this program, and tell me what happened next. What was that conversation like between you two? What was the process like between you two?
Kate Northrup:You know, Lizzie, did you go first? You know, how how did that all happen?
Lizzie Langston:Yeah. In true fashion at the time, I'm pretty sure I purchased this as a secret. Pretty sure
Kate Northrup:For your honesty.
Lizzie Langston:I'm pretty sure I didn't say, Abe, I have another investment that's gonna help us. Yeah. We you know, he was already beyond not sure how to handle this Yeah. Girl right here. So, but like I said, I am a good person, but, also, I just I I had a freeze response with money.
Lizzie Langston:Now in your program later, I did learn that I have a recent ancestor who was financially abused, who was, in her marriage, her partnership. Money was withheld if her partner was upset and not enough for groceries and stuff. So I I have done a lot of digging around to figure out why this has been so scary for me. But, the first thing that started happening is I started doing feng shui because I was too overwhelmed to even do any of the modules.
Kate Northrup:I love that so much. It's like, but I can rearrange my furniture.
Lizzie Langston:But I can rear end up and the kids were home all summer. I did not have the capacity to try to, like, manage them and try to sit and do a call. So I was like, I'll just feng shui it up this summer, and I trust in the energy of feng shui. So that's where I started. Yeah.
Lizzie Langston:And I I remember writing a note to Abram. It was probably eight pages long, a very sober note. I think what your program did as I learned the nervous system tools, which I wanna talk more about because they've been vital in what has really rehabilitated my nervous system with money. But they allowed me to to hold the reality of who I had been and how I had showed up and also my hope for the future and just really letting the shame go.
Kate Northrup:Mhmm. Yeah. So powerful.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Kate Northrup:And then, Abe, at what point did you become aware that Relaxed Money was happening in Lizzie's life? I might remember.
Abram Langston:I was, you know, around the same time. I think she eventually told me. I was kind of at a point where it's like, look. If it's gonna help, like, whatever. Like, something's gotta change.
Abram Langston:Right? And so yeah. And I definitely noticed a change in Lizzie. One, just being able to have a conversation about it without it being getting elevated or kind of separate from emotions, if you will. Yeah.
Abram Langston:And so and I'll be fully honest. Like, I haven't dove into the program and haven't done a ton of the modules and stuff. Yeah. I've kind of learned a lot of it since I
Kate Northrup:actually love that, by the way. Like, that's great. So no apologies. Carry on, please.
Abram Langston:It's definitely something I've been wanting to. But what I've seen is the difference in Lizzie and how she's been able to respond and, what's the word, be not dysregulated around money in a certain way. You know, there were some patterns before that I also did of, you know, you start buying things because you feel a certain way and, you know, all those different things. And those kind of slowly started going away and being able to have conversations around money and being smart and thinking about it ahead of time.
Lizzie Langston:So And still making still making
Kate Northrup:mistakes too.
Lizzie Langston:Still making mistakes or you know? But also being so forgiving of each other, noticing if shame was coming up, doing my drills, you know, and and working through it and not having it be so sticky and heavy.
Abram Langston:And just being aware, like, knowing what's going on in the time, in the moment. It's like, oh, I'm feeling this, and it's causing me to do this. And just being aware of what's happening is a big one.
Kate Northrup:It's it's nearly everything.
Lizzie Langston:It's nearly
Abram Langston:everything. Yeah.
Kate Northrup:I mean, by the time you're aware of the pattern, the pattern is walking out the door. But Mhmm. 95% of the work is getting to the point where in the moment, you can even stop and be like, wait. Oh, hold up. I'm in survival patterning.
Kate Northrup:And then when you know that and you know what to do about it, you wanted to talk, Lizzie, a little bit about the nervous system aspect for you, which, of course, you've touched on. But when you know what to do and then you have those systems to support you, it really changes everything. So is there anything, Lizzie, that you wanna add about some of those drills that you learned and how you've incorporated them into your life, you know, maybe even beyond money too? Because I know you two have Oh, yeah. Four kiddos.
Kate Northrup:Yeah. So the nervous system is so important. She has a lot of tapping on her face. So good. Oh, god.
Kate Northrup:That'll be a
Lizzie Langston:good little reel for you. She does a lot of tapping.
Kate Northrup:Okay. Yeah. So myself even though yeah.
Lizzie Langston:Even though. Actually, I'm sure I've done that one.
Kate Northrup:It's powerful.
Lizzie Langston:So, you know, I I've been a coach for eight years, so I wanna make sure that anybody who's new to nervous system knows that, like, the words all what it's really about is safety. And I think that we don't realize how unsafe we feel sometimes because we might have felt that unsafe when we were so little or even two or three generations back. So so many of us, our concept of true safety is kind of warped. And so what these drills do for me and by drills, I just mean whether it's face tapping. We've got a bunch of different ones that we do in the program.
Lizzie Langston:These are neuroscience backed as you have taught me, and I've gone on to study them even more. But all that they do is they signal safety to my body, and then that opens up my capacity or my ability to be present with something that I wanted to fight with or I wanted to run away with or from or I wanted to fawn over and be fake about. And so what I noticed is that I, before the tools, the nervous system tools, which for me, these were the key ingredient. I promise you before your program, I had read Dave Ramsey. I had read so, you know, you need a budget.
Lizzie Langston:I'd read all the books. They were all men. You know, there's that. But I was like, well, my husband, they they maybe these guys know. I don't know.
Lizzie Langston:I was just so desperate. But my inner stubbornness was like, I just know there's a different better way. And so when I found you and this program, it just my whole body responded with a yes. It was like my body was working with it. So it wasn't just do this with your money.
Lizzie Langston:It was, oh, I can feel safe with money. And then I actually am quite intelligent, turns out, with money. But that intelligence was not accessible when I was in that fight or flight.
Kate Northrup:Yeah. So well said. And, Abe, you said, you know, relatively soon, you began to notice a difference in the way Lizzie was showing up for those conversations. Now it's been two years since you hopped in, Lizzie, and I'd love to hear from both of you what has shifted in your marriage, what has shifted in your financial life, how are things going now. And I also wanna preface this by saying, in our world, we don't operate in the illusion of a before and after that's, like, cooked.
Kate Northrup:We know that everything is a transformation over time. So, you know
Lizzie Langston:Make a show
Kate Northrup:of it. You know what I mean? Like, we're always the work in progress. Everyone is. And, also, we wanna celebrate how far we've come because I think if you look back at, you know, April, May 2024, it's real different.
Lizzie Langston:Real different.
Kate Northrup:It was a real difference. So talk let's talk about it.
Abram Langston:I think for me, like, I'm an engineer by by training, and so I'm a very analytical, Finance is a math equation, and it's simple. You just put it in a spreadsheet, you follow it, right? And I kind of look at it as kind of like the medical system. There's the medical, the current system, and then there's a whole other aspect of the whole body health, of spiritual health and mental well-being, and they go together. And I feel like I had the very analytical numbers side of finances down.
Abram Langston:And Lizzie lived in the spiritual And that I feel like this program brings those together to where it's like a whole body help because there's been opportunities and situations that Lizzie has, I would say, created or manifested, however you want to say it, because of what she's done in the program and because she has prepared herself that way. Whereas if we were just stuck on a budget, just doing numbers and not really working on the inside and our thoughts and everything, it may not have been the same. So
Lizzie Langston:Yeah. I think that's why I was so resistant to Abe's approach to budgeting and any of the budgeting I came across. And this isn't a criticism, but it was like there was a deep part of me that knew that she was not being utilized. That is my very psychic intuitive self that has actually totally tripled our income, which we'll get into, just from dreams and intuitions and opportunities I've attracted through relationships. And I've it was like, I couldn't have put it into words then, but I I think it wasn't just, oh, I'm in a flight response.
Lizzie Langston:There was also a deep wisdom there. And I wanna acknowledge that for any humans who have wonky relationships to money that it's possible that there's some genius in you, and maybe you do need to do it differently. And to make sure you find a mentor in a program or an approach that does actually honor your full genius because we're all geniuses in such different ways.
Kate Northrup:I love that so much. One of the things that happens a lot in our world, and you know this already, Lizzie, is that very similar to your scenario, one partner will come to the work first. It is often if it's a heterosexual couple, it is often the woman, but we have all different variations. And then she will say to me, my husband or my partner is not open to this stuff around the nervous system or energy because he, she, or they thinks that it's too woo and that it's not real. And so, Abe, I'm just curious because you spoke right now so beautifully to the melding of two, and you're an engineer.
Kate Northrup:I am married to an engineer. And so I really get that, like, analytical three d mind, and I'm so grateful for it because by nature, I'm more like Lizzie. So if you were to answer that question for someone who is struggling because they're coming up against a partner who is really not available to be open to the fact that there might be something beyond a spreadsheet, what might you say to the person who's struggling with that relationship or even maybe the person who's not open is listening right now? What might you share with them?
Abram Langston:That's a good question. I think I would just put it in different verbiage. Like, for me, like, mindset is a good way to describe it. And I think that resonates with analytical people because I think it's really you know, it's easy to understand that if your mindset is in a certain way, it affects how you act. Yeah.
Abram Langston:And so if you're not aware of what your mindset is in certain aspects, like when you're budgeting, if your mindset is scarcity and, oh my gosh, I'm not gonna be able to to do this, then you're gonna act in certain ways in your life that are are scarcity. And you may miss opportunities to increase your income or miss opportunities to save or get a deal. You know, like, there's so many things when your mindset's not aligned. And I think having the right mindset along with the analytical skills is is really what makes the difference. So
Kate Northrup:Thank you for that. So straightforward. And and what I'll add is that when we start with the body, it just makes it so much easier to change our mindset. It's like the shortcut. Mhmm.
Kate Northrup:Yeah. So good.
Abram Langston:Yeah. I mean, for me, like, a lot of times, I'll have and Lizzie can attest to this. Like, a lot of times, like, I don't know always right away what I'm feeling. Something will happen, and it's like, I don't know why I'm feeling this way or whatever. And I think this work and getting more in tuned with your body and what's going on, it helps you recognize more of what's happening and being able to recognize it and then fix it or adjust it or adapt.
Abram Langston:So
Kate Northrup:Yeah. So good. So I'd love to hear now from you two, what are some of I think we've talked a lot about more of the invisible results, like the the how is it feeling, the dynamic between the two of you, although I'm always open to more if there's more to share there. But I would also love to hear about any specifics in terms of the way that the financial picture has shifted.
Lizzie Langston:Yeah. There have been some. So I would be happy to share some of those. Great. But I'm curious what it's felt like for you, Abe, watching all this.
Lizzie Langston:So wow. So the first I actually went back through all of my posts. I'm a very active community member.
Kate Northrup:Yes. You are. I love it.
Lizzie Langston:And not everyone is like that, and that's totally fine, but I love it. I love being in community. I'm a Libra. Okay. Anyway,
Kate Northrup:so You're good.
Lizzie Langston:I was reviewing all my posts, and I there was definitely this moment, and it was maybe a couple months into the program. And I did not even have my financial stuff together yet, but it was this internal shift of realizing that my soul and who I am is the thing. It is the value. That there's no offer that I could put out there. There's no marketing tweak I could make.
Lizzie Langston:If it doesn't come from a deep feeling of connection to myself, love for myself, and a recognition that anything like, me being the most authentic version of myself is what is going to give me the feeling that I think a million dollars or x amount of money is going to give me. And from that moment on, it was like I was still doing a lot of the same actions, but it was different. It was I was different. One of the examples of how that shifted is I so in 2020, I had sort of a midlife spontaneous psychic awakening where my two grandmothers passed, and I started feeling and hearing, okay, people that have passed on the other side. And this is a gift I've had since 2020.
Lizzie Langston:And I had a dream two months before I found your program that it was time to come out, you know, to to share that that was something because it's a gift for people. And so I I didn't though for a while, but so in September. So I had the dream in January. I joined your program in, like, April. In September, I finally did have the nervous system safety.
Lizzie Langston:A big part of it was fear fear that people would judge me, fear whatever whatever. So I came out as a medium, and I made, like, almost $5,000 super easily and was booked out for almost two months. And the and I came out inside of a Facebook community of, like, a couple thousand women that were spiritual and whatever. I didn't even come out to the full public, and I was just like, wow. And then that opened up.
Lizzie Langston:I met my business part. My now business partner was one of the people that hired me. I would have never met her. And now she, you know, through our agreement and our company and our exchange, has matched Abe's income. So now I doubled our income through my business partner.
Lizzie Langston:And and all the beautiful work that we're doing together, it's called Threshold Keepers. It's a mystery school for women, and it's so fulfilling. And I'm being compensated, not just compensated. It's like the things I was afraid to share that were in me, my biggest gifts that I was terrified to share are now full on, like, bringing us a lot of money. And then the crazy okay.
Lizzie Langston:This is the last crazy thing I'll share is I'm an affiliate of your program now. So I was preparing myself for this opening program, and I thought, you know, it's spring. I wanna do some spring cleaning. I wanna get back into the program, like, really go into it hard for this next month. So that was, like, the March, a month ago.
Lizzie Langston:And then I had a dream maybe, I don't know, a couple weeks into that. And in my dream, I was doing retreat sales, and I was a closer for a retreat sales company. And it I felt amazing. And I have a lot of dreams, but this dream was different. I woke up, and it was so visceral.
Lizzie Langston:I was like, I was just there. So I reached out to my network, and I said for kicks and giggles. Okay? I know this is crazy, but does anybody know if anyone needs a closer? And, of course, one of my friends, Melissa Bocknight, who runs a big Oh, she's the best.
Lizzie Langston:Yeah. The Nova Global Community
Kate Northrup:Oh, yeah. I love Nova.
Lizzie Langston:Okay. So she's very well connected. That's why I reached out to her. Was like, do you know anyone in your network, your big network? And she said, no joke.
Lizzie Langston:A girl in Boulder just figured out meta ads. She's she's got, like, 40 sales calls a week or more, and she was just telling us she needs someone, like, now. And so I started, like, days later, and that's probably gonna about triple our income.
Kate Northrup:Wow. I have Joe. That's really something.
Lizzie Langston:Like, this many hours a week, but it's great commission, and I love what I do. Right? I'm like, oh my god.
Kate Northrup:That's really the best kind of money when you're making more for working less, when it's potency, not Leverage. Yeah. When it's potency, not trading hours for dollars. So I love that for you. Thank you.
Kate Northrup:That for all of you. What's this like for you, Abe?
Abram Langston:It's cool. It's fun to watch. Like, I definitely see all these opportunities open up for Lizzie. It's fun. It really is fun.
Speaker 5:I love it. It's so great.
Lizzie Langston:And we're not fighting anymore.
Abram Langston:Know? As much.
Lizzie Langston:I mean, a little healthy
Kate Northrup:tussle is good for the polarity. But That's okay. But, like, hopefully yeah. So tell me tell me about, like, how are money conversations going now, and and how has that impacted the rest of your marriage?
Abram Langston:I think it's we've just been able to have conversations and just kinda separate them from feelings. You know? Like, actually talk about them and just kind of have a discussion about money and what we need to do without bringing in all the shame and guilt and stress and all that. Yeah.
Lizzie Langston:Yeah. I I look back, and so much of our volatility in these conversations was because of how unsafe we each felt. He felt unsafe with how I was going about money, and he had his own scarcity issues. Right? And then I felt unsafe with the way he would approach me about money, and I felt shame, and so I was defensive.
Lizzie Langston:Oh, it was just such a toxic bubbling mess. And so, like I said, we're not perfect, but, we actually have calm, productive, and safe conversations about money on an irregular but decently regular basis.
Kate Northrup:Amazing. That's so incredible. Yeah. So, Lizzie, since you're the one who signed up, what, if any, hesitations did you have about doing it?
Lizzie Langston:Well, number one, I I knew it would be a stretch for us even though the program is is pennies compared to what it's done for us. But still, when you're investment. Well and, also, my nervous system at the time of the investment was my old nervous system. And so there was so much more shame about myself. And so anything I was gonna buy, I had some shame come up.
Lizzie Langston:Shame, you know, that I was overspending or whatever. So I think it was just a a really broken down self trust. Even though there was a deep, deep, deep untouched self trust that was, like, deeper than my nervous almost like my my soul. But in my nervous system, there had just been so many stories that I had evidence for that I'm the problem. That was a big thing for me.
Lizzie Langston:I'm the problem. I mess it up. I'm bringing my husband pain. I'm ruining our lineage. Like, oh my gosh.
Lizzie Langston:Just all the stories. So I had to kind of come up against those and still find it deep in my body to be like, no. I do trust myself, and I I'm gonna show myself that I can do this. And I have. Damn it.
Kate Northrup:Damn it. Okay. So given that that was your hesitation, which is common, that feeling of I I know this works, but I don't know if it will work for me because of x y z thing about myself. Right? And so what would you say to someone who might be in that hesitation or something similar or adjacent to it?
Lizzie Langston:I would just say listen to those thoughts because, like, are those gonna create money in your life? Like, if you bring those thoughts with you, are those gonna create money? And if you know they're not, then you need a new nervous system. You need new wiring from the inside out. And that's exactly what this program does.
Kate Northrup:That's so great. And then, Abe, for you, if you could speak to someone whose partner is gonna do the program, but they are but you as the partner are feeling hesitation about that. Is there anything that you would wanna share? I mean, you kind of already did about the mindset, and I loved that. But just in case there's anything
Abram Langston:else What had come to mind is, like, like, what's it gonna hurt? Like, it could only help. Right? And so like Lizzie said, the investment is not so much that it's going to ruin you to where, why not? Why not try it?
Abram Langston:Because if it helps, it really helps.
Kate Northrup:I love that. Yeah. How practical.
Abram Langston:Yeah.
Kate Northrup:Very practical. Practical. I really like the way you talk, Abe. It's very grounded and straightforward, so thank you for that. Is there anything else that you two wanna share?
Kate Northrup:You've such a beautiful energy together, and so I'm I'm really grateful for both of you coming on today. And before we get into, I'd love to just hear what you both do, where people can find you, all of that. But any final words before we go there?
Abram Langston:I'm with a company now, IntimeTech, and we Amazing. We're a AI solutions company, and so we help Amazing. Different companies, you know, implement AI and fix business problems. And it's a really fun company, and it's been a great thing to do. So that's kind of what I do.
Kate Northrup:That's great. Noted. I might circle back. And how are you, Lizzie? Where can people find you?
Kate Northrup:And or do you have any final words?
Lizzie Langston:I do have final words. There is a thing about shame where it sort of makes exceptions in your mind. Like, well, it worked for them or I can't or I'll screw it up or you know? Anyway and we still have so much debt from this business loss. And I remember the first time inside of your community, we were all sharing shame free the number of how much debt we have if we wanted to, if it served us.
Lizzie Langston:It was optional. And I remember seeing someone with more debt than we had, and I just didn't think that was ever possible. And it was like not to say you need to some see somebody worse off than you, but this person was showing up vulnerably like me and also had a I I thought I was the only one. You know? That's part of what our ego does.
Lizzie Langston:It isolates us into a corner and makes us think we're the only one. And I just want you to know no matter what exceptions you're making for yourself, like, well, but my debt's too big, or I failed in all these other programs, or, well, I don't do nervous system work, or my partner would never x, y, and z. Literally doesn't matter because money is power. This is about your power within yourself. And so let it be, you know, about that and go into it just exploring that and with a deep desire to find parts of yourself you've never met, and your money will flourish.
Lizzie Langston:It really will. But, yeah, you well, it's like we're the magic. Right? The program brings out the you, which brings out the magic, which brings out the money and the opportunities.
Kate Northrup:Yes. It does.
Lizzie Langston:What happened.
Kate Northrup:Yes. It does. It's so good. So good. So, Lizzie, tell people where they can come find what you're working on.
Lizzie Langston:Okay. So I love Substack lately because I just get to go deeper and write long form essays and really chat with people. So I'm at lizzielangston.substack.com. So it's lizzielangston. Lizzielangston.substack.com.
Lizzie Langston:I run a mystery school called Threshold Keepers, and we hold women through intense life thresholds like empty nesting or divorce, career changes, postpartum. And so that's just thresholdkeepers.com, but I also write about it on my Substack. So, basically, Substack.
Kate Northrup:Incredible. Okay. We'll make sure that that's in the show notes. Thank you both again. I'm so grateful for your time.
Kate Northrup:I'm so grateful for you being in this community and really grateful for your generosity sharing today.
Lizzie Langston:Thank you.
Abram Langston:For having us.
Lizzie Langston:And thanks, Mike, for asking Gabe to be here.
Kate Northrup:He he knows a good man when he
Lizzie Langston:needs to. He does.
Kate Northrup:If this episode sparks something for
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