Elite Heat

Four days before AEW All In: London, Dynamite delivered plenty of good wrestling, but did the go-home show actually create enough heat for Wembley?
Tim and Dug break down the final Dynamite before All In, including Will Ospreay’s last words for Kenny Omega, Jon Moxley vs. Claudio Castagnoli in the Continental Challenge Cup, and Nigel McGuinness continuing his unlikely run toward a championship match at Wembley.
They also discuss Christian Cage blowing up the uneasy alliance between Adam Copeland and the Young Bucks, Mercedes Moné attacking Willow Nightingale, Andrade continuing to thrive in his feud with MJF, and AEW finally giving fans more names to watch for in the Casino Gauntlet.
Plus: a surprisingly great women’s trios match featuring Maya World, Persephone, Divine Dominion and the Brawling Birds; Swerve Strickland and Jungle Jack Perry stealing the show in the main event; the growing questions around AEW’s World Title picture after All In; and some very irresponsible Casino Gauntlet fantasy booking involving Stone Cold Steve Austin, Bret Hart and Teddy Hart.

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  • (00:00) - Cold open: Who wins the Casino Gauntlet?
  • (00:13) - AEW Dynamite from Glasgow and the overrun mystery
  • (01:51) - Did the All In go-home show lack tension?
  • (03:55) - Heat Check: Hot, mild and mayo
  • (12:09) - Doich Foods
  • (14:16) - Will Ospreay’s final message before All In
  • (18:57) - Jon Moxley vs. Claudio Castagnoli
  • (23:31) - Cope and the Young Bucks vs. the Don Callis Family
  • (27:07) - Mercedes Moné attacks Willow Nightingale
  • (28:15) - Mark Davis enters the Casino Gauntlet picture
  • (31:07) - MJF and Andrade keep getting better
  • (36:15) - Chris Jericho declares for the Casino Gauntlet
  • (38:09) - Nigel McGuinness vs. Kyle O’Reilly
  • (43:55) - Kyle Fletcher, Okada and the Don Callis Family
  • (44:54) - Maya World and the Brawling Birds vs. Divine Dominion and Persephone
  • (47:03) - Darby Allin and Kevin Knight recap
  • (47:39) - Swerve Strickland vs. Jungle Jack Perry
  • (50:54) - Who challenges for the World Title after All In?
  • (54:12) - Casino Gauntlet predictions and surprise entrants
  • (01:01:22) - Final All In thoughts and Doich Foods
  • (01:03:37) - The Ospreay era begins Sunday?

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my guess of Bailey.

no, I don't think it's gonna be Bailey. I do think it's going to be Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Finally.

four days to All In. So we are live from Scotland tonight for AEW Dynamite. I said live. They're not live. That was taped. That's my bad. That

What?

wasn't live.

They fibbed.

I don't think they said they were live. To be fair, I added that.

You fibbed.

Cause I always say they're live from wherever, cause usually they are, but they

True, true.

were not. And that might be why it actually went two hours tonight. 9:01 Central is when that ended.

And they ended with a promo package, so they were done early. Yes indeed.

Yeah, they were done early. Quick aside on that,

Yeah.

before we dive into everything, I

Okay.

read today that the reason they've been doing the massive overrun is because Warner Brothers told them to. Basically TBS said do that.

Really?

Your thoughts on that?

A, I don't know if I believe that.

okay. Interesting.

W well, because I don't I don't know TBS or Warner Brothers. I don't know them very well.

Yeah, I don't either. I don't know. Yeah.

also, I d why would they want that? I don't understand. I d I don't know there must be some benefit to them for doing that, but I don't know what that would be.

That's that was my thought too, is I don't understand why they would do it. Like, if you're gonna have that big of an overrun, then just make it a two and a half hour show. Just just say it's been expanded

Right. Yeah.

to two and a half hours or three or whatever. I

Mm-hmm.

don't understand why TBS would tell them to do that, but allegedly that's what's been going on. I

Okay.

don't know. Don't make sense to me either.

All right.

Yeah. So with that, let's dive in.

Let's talk about the go home for All In, which was

It was. It was.

We it it was. You

know, last week you said l the show was good but weird.

Mm-hmm.

Tonight's show I thought was good but somehow dull.

I I would agree. And you know what? go ahead.

And and not necessarily

dull, it just lacked tension that you would anticipate before

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

a big pay-per-view.

Yeah, I I agree. I think that there was a distinct lack of sizzle here.

Yeah.

And and I think that the crowd in Scotland agreed because I thought they were pretty quiet.

They started off hot. Yeah.

They did by the end of

the show. Well, the end of the show is not fair because the main event got back in it. But there there were some points

Yes, yeah.

where they were real quiet. I I'm trying to remember when exactly it happened, but there was a point where I don't think it's gonna come back to me as to who exactly which promo segment it was, but they s there was a pause for the crowd to react and they didn't.

Yes.

That happened tonight

and I can't remember who it was that did it, which again tells you a lot because it just ended. And I've already had things leave my

I'm trying to think of when that was.

brain. But do you know what I'm talking about?

Yeah.

Like it it definitely happened where there was a pause for the crowd to react and boy they did not. Like they were

Was it during the

the Don Callis/Mark Davis sketch backstage?

No, because it was backstage.

It happened in the ring.

Okay.

And I can't remember I don't maybe it wasn't a promo. It might have been somebody went for a pop during the mat during a match and they didn't get it. I don't know. But but

Yeah.

it was I distinctly remember going like, Ooh, that didn't happen. That didn't happen for

Right.

ya. So I don't know. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Let's let's dive in with the heat check.

oui.

I think it's your turn to lead off.

Okay. heat check. Once again, our scale in the heat check. Hot, mild, and mayo. So here we go. Hot. Claudio kicking out at one. Loved it. Hot. Christian Cage. Full stop. Hot. I'm a and again with the hot sauce. This isn't your hottest hot. This is but a little over mild.

Well, no, I think it's hot. Bucks and Co. versus DCF with Doyle, Romero, and Cage. I thought that was hot. I liked

Yeah.

it. The Mercedes attacking Willow backstage. Hot. Liked it. This one I can be talked into mild. I put MJF and Andrade there. Possibly mild, but I like both these guys. So that's why it's in the hot.

Yeah. I I so before we started when I was putting mine together and and Doug was watching me go, I don't know, back and forth.

Yeah.

That was one of the ones I was back and forth on. Yeah.

Yep, I understand that.

I also have the women's trio match in hot and Swerve versus Jack Perry in the hot category.

Mm-hmm. Okay.

Okay. so my hot category

I'm going okay. I'm gonna leave it as it is. But again, if you're looking at a menu, right? And you know how they have like the little peppers to show you how hot it is,

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

please know that there's only one thing here that would get like all five of the peppers. Okay. But most of these are more towards like pepper. So like it's hot, but it's not really hot.

I agree. I agree.

Yeah.

Like I would eat it and be like, Meh, there was a little heat. My mom would eat it and like, my god, I'm gonna die 'cause mayo was too spicy for my mom. So anyway.

Got

it. Yep. Yep.

All right, so here's my hot list. Mox and Claudio got in there. It was real borderline for me, though. And we can talk more about it, but it was real borderline, but it got into the hot for me. Cope and the Bucks versus the Don Callis family, primarily because of Cope and the Bucks.

Mm-hmm.

Again, we'll talk more about it. It was good enough that I went, okay, fine.

And I you know how I do this. I package everything in my head together as a segment, as like one segment.

Mm-hmm.

So everything that happened post match boosts it up as well. And I'm putting all that together. The match

Got it.

itself was good enough to be in my hot list, but it was it was close.

Yep.

The I'm with you on the Willow Mercedes beatdown. I thought that was good.

Mm-hmm.

I gave again, this is one I could be talked out of.

I gave the Don Callis/Mark Davis promo the hot because of Don Callis.

Okay.

And and it's it's exactly what you just said about the MJF/Andrade thing, right? Of like, I'm not sure it actually should be there, but I like Don Callis so much that I went, I'm gonna put it there. I'm not sure it deserves the spot.

That's fair.

Andrade and MJF, we just talked about. I put it there because I like both those guys. I will say maybe it was MJF. Maybe it was him

Maybe with it.

that he paused and didn't. Yeah, it was. He did that's what it was. He didn't get the response when he did his we're in Ireland joke. He didn't get what he was looking for there. And that's

Yeah. Yeah. Right.

MJF not getting the pop. You know what I mean?

Yeah.

It was one of those where it was like, Yeah, I mean you said the wrong country. We get it.

Yeah. Yeah.

And and that's where I was going with it before my my memory jogged there is I love MJF. Love

Mm-hmm.

him. One of my favorite wrestlers working today, arguably my favorite. This

Fair.

wasn't his best. Now, to be fair, not his best is better than most people's best.

Right.

But this was not his best work tonight. This was

No.

It wasn't his best work. So

They didn't

they didn't buy into the cheap heat tonight.

No, they did not. And I put it primarily in the hot, mostly again, because I love MJF, but also I thought Andrade's part was good, so I boosted it up because of that. But again, I could be talked

Yes. Yes.

into putting that on the mild.

I'm gonna bump that down. I thought about it. I'm gonna do it.

That's fine. That's fine.

it's kind of the same thing that I said with the Don Callis/Mark Davis promo for the Don Callis/ProtOkada promo.

Mm-hmm.

I liked it mostly because of Don. I gave it bonus points for extending the storyline, but I'm not sure how much it added that we didn't already have.

Yeah, that's fair.

but I gave it mostly because of Don.

Mm-hmm.

Loved the women's trios match. Really enjoyed that. Loved

Yeah, loved it. Mm-hmm.

the main event. Really enjoyed that.

So then for my mild, that would put Kyle O'Reilly and Nigel on the mild. That's the one I moved down. the Ospreay promo, what's that?

Mm-hmm. I have that in my I have that

in my mild, by the way, the Kyle O'Reilly and the Nigel.

Yeah. The Ospreay promo got into my mild just because it's sort of like what I was saying with MJF. This wasn't his best work. And I understand he was playing directly to the Scottish crowd and he's referencing stuff that I don't necessarily understand. And that's okay.

Mm-hmm.

I get it. That's fine. I don't have a problem with it. But when your job is to go out and keep selling tickets for Sunday, because clearly they're not sold out, they push tickets. I don't know that the promo did that.

And that's why I dinged at some points.

That's fair.

and then the Jericho promo got on my mild. It was borderline mayo, for me.

Okay. It in yeah.

In my mild, I have the Kyle O'Reilly, Nigel McGuinness match, but it does get a caveat because I do enjoy the fact that it was a different style of match than you normally see on Dynamite. So it had that going for it, but for me it just it was mild. I had the Don Callis/Kyle Fletcher/Okada backstage bit as being mild, mostly because again, we're not seeing anything new.

Fair.

And it and it was fine. It did the job. You know, it wasn't it wasn't mayo. It wasn't spicy. It did the job. It moved the story forward. I forgot to put Will Ospreay's opening segment on the heat check at all. So I guess I should put it

Which kinda tells you something.

well, I didn't hate it. I while it was going on,

Yeah.

I liked it fine. But with Kenny not there, it it seemed to lack a little bit. So I guess if I'm

Putting it anywhere, I'll put it in the mild category. And that's that's what I have in my mild for my mayo.

Yeah. yeah. Okay.

I have the Jericho backstage announcement. I I mean, I love me some Jericho, but so so what? I didn't put the entire Don Callis/Mark Davis promo on there. I just put Davis staring and panting into the screen after the promo.

Totally agree.

And that's

that's more on the production side, but also his side. He could choose to say something. He

Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

could choose to do something instead of looking ridiculous. Because he looked ridiculous the whole time. I don't

Yep. Yes, he did.

know if they told him don't speak or if he bit his own tongue off and swallowed it, but I it was just weird. And I thought

I agree.

Don Callis was a bit.

Weak on that one specifically.

fair.

He was better in the ProtOkada one. I agree. He was better there.

Don Callis seemed a little off tonight, in my my opinion. But yes, the ProtOkada bit was better. This wasn't and I think that's it for my Mayo. I just had those two in

Okay.

the mayo.

Yeah, I'll when we run through this, I'll tell you why I liked the not liked, but why Jericho got into the mild for me. And

Yeah, that's fine.

it actually ironically kind of ties in with the Mark Davis promo too.

Okay.

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Heck yes. By the way, speaking of bomb-ass, did you give us your mayo?

I didn't have anything in the mayo. But again,

okay. Then you did.

there was stuff that was ri like the Jericho one. Jericho probably should have been in the Mayo for me. I'll I'll like I said, I'll explain why I Yeah. Well,

That's fine. I mean it it's fine that he wasn't. It's it's fine, you know.

I'll I'll explain why I bumped it up, but the let me put it this way. The promo itself was basically pointless and from that standpoint

Yep.

probably should have been in the mayo. But I'll explain why I

And like I said, how it ties in with the Don Callis/Mark Davis promo, why those

Okay.

got bonus points for me. But all right. So here we go.

All that's yeah.

The Ospreay promo, like I talked about, you know, watching it, I went, Okay, it's clearly personal. Like you got he got that over of you brought up my kid. This is now personal. I'm a whoop your ass, cause how dare you?

Can can I just say something real quick about that?

Yes.

Of all the things that have been said in wrestling, about people's family, about their personal lives, about their children, what Kenny said is one of the least offensive things I've ever heard another wrestler say about another wrestler's child or family. Just that.

Yeah. Or dead

parents.

Didn't he yeah, yeah. Because all all all he said yeah, yeah,

I mean I'm just folding it all into one. Right, yeah.

all he said was kid's gonna need a new hero.

I'm not saying Will

I get it. I get it.

is overreacting.

But the way he's reacting, it it's as if Kenny said, I'm going to adopt your son in the middle of the ring and sign the papers before I pin you.

Yeah, I mean, I think that they had to walk a tightrope here because if Kenny what they should have done is just not brought up the kid at all because there wasn't a good

Exactly.

way to thread this needle. Because if Kenny is like, well, when it's over, I'm gonna bang your wife and adopt your kid, well now he's doing a Christian Cage impression, right? So you can't do that.

Right. Yeah. So you can't do that.

So yeah, I think they probably should have just left it out because you were doing a perfectly fine job without bringing the kid in.

Right.

But it's but whatever. I mean, it doesn't bother me because again, all right, now it's personal. The thing I pointed out was I'm not sure that if I'm Will Ospreay, who is certainly steeped in English football.

I'm not sure that I would do so f if you don't know, every year that the World Cup comes around, so every four years when it comes around, England starts going, it's coming home. Okay. That's like their their rally and cry or whatever. It's coming home.

Right.

Mm-hmm.

60 years. That's how long it's been since England won the World Cup.

Yeah.

And since they didn't win it this year, it's gonna be at least 64. And

Mm-hmm.

so for him to say it's coming home, I was like, not sure that's the reference I would make, my guy. But that's me being nerdy and nitpicky, but

But

I mean, you know, he stands a better shot than apparently they they do with the Cup.

Significantly better, apparently.

So anyway, I thought it was fine. what I will say, because I don't think there's much need to talk about the video at the end of the show. I think if you had replaced this promo with that video, it would have actually been better. Cause I thought the video was really good.

I like the video, yes. And I get why you want Will Ospreay to start your show in Scotland. And I and I think

I get it too. I get it too.

overall, I think it did the job and I think it was fine. like I said, I in it and maybe it is just me, I do get a little pulled out of it when he says, and then you brought up my son, and I'm like

I don't again, he okay. I guess technically he did, but he didn't call him a frog. You know, he didn't say that he was a goblin. He he just said I'm better than his dad. So that's

Yeah. I yeah.

whatever. I mean you I get it. You mention anybody's kid, and that's opening you know, that's opening the door. So I that's fine. I just think they they could have picked a different.

A d a a different yeah,

Different angle, yeah.

a a different straw to break that camel's back.

Yeah. and when I say I think the video would have been better than the promo here, I'm not trying to say this was a bad promo. I just mean from the standpoint

no, yeah.

of selling this match, which you don't really need to do more of at this point, but you're going

Mm-hmm.

to put the world title storyline on your go home. I get that. I get all

Yep. Yep.

of that. When I say better, I just mean I think it did a better job. That video did a better job of selling the match and the storyline than Ospreay's promo. That's all.

Yeah.

I'm not saying

Yeah.

it was bad, but if the whole point, and I know this wasn't the whole point, but if the point was to sell the match and sell tickets, the video did a better job. But you're right, of at least some of the point here was to put Will Ospreay in front of, you know, the Scottish crowd. I I get that. I get it.

Again.

It just wasn't his best. That's all.

That's fair.

Yeah. A lot of that tonight, unfortunately.

Yeah.

then we got Mox and Claudio, which

If you had asked me like two weeks ago when Mox and Claudio wrestle in the Continental Cup, because I think we all kind of saw this coming,

Mm-hmm.

describe the match, this is exactly what I would have described. This like this

Yeah. Yeah.

is if such a thing exists, this is a textbook, Jon Moxley, Claudio Castagnoli match.

Yes, one hundred percent. There was nothing off script in this match. It was by the book,

Nope. Yep.

their book. And it was fine. It was a good it was a good match. It was a good

It was fine. Yeah. Yeah.

match. It didn't suck. It was good. There were a few moments in there that I really enjoyed. I really

Mm-hmm.

liked Claudio swinging Mox into the barricade outside with the big swing swing. That was fun.

Yep. like you said, I like to kick out at one. You know I'm a fan of that. Yeah, it was fine. It it it

It was fine. Yeah. Yep. I I didn't

I did enjoy Tony saying this isn't a match, it's a it's a struggle. I was like, that's a that's a good way to put that.

It was. That was a good ex that was a good description. I agree. It like I said, it's exactly what I expected it would be.

Mm-hmm.

It was a perfectly good match.

It it was deliberate, they know how to counter each other, all that stuff. I get all that, and then Mox wins. And I think we all knew John

Yeah.

Moxley was winning that match.

Absolutely we did.

I I personally, and I'm curious what you think. The Continental Cup has really kind of lacked drama for me. I feel like the the

Yeah. Yeah.

Continental Classic does a better job of building that than this one did.

This has seemed weird like a lot of things, but th you're right. It in there's been a lot of friends fighting friends, faction

Mm.

fighting same faction.

Okay. I I think that has taken a little bit out of it. Also, I think pulling Eddie Kingston because of injury.

Is he not really hurt? I thought he was.

He's wrestling Saturday at CMLL for the world title.

well then no, he's not really hurt. I did not know that. Then no, he's not

Yep.

really hurt. Okay.

Yep. He's gonna be in Mexico wrestling several AEW stars are gonna be down there, I believe. probably the

Interesting. Okay.

ones that aren't gonna be at All In are gonna be in Mexico. So no, he's challenging

I would say so, yeah.

for a world title in Mexico on Saturday. So whatever hurt him, he got better quick.

Sure did. Yeah, I don't like that. Taking him out of it. I I think.

I think the story really is supposed to be Nigel. And I think tonight confirms that.

Yep. yeah.

And I think that if they had done what you and I talked about of the winner gets mocks at All In rather than having John compete in

Mm-hmm.

the tournament, would have I think it would have created a little bit more. I don't know if excitement's the right word. I don't know if drama's the right word, but I think it would have created a little bit more.

Of I a little bit more appeal to it because every time Mox got in the ring, I was like, Well, he's gonna win. And because he's Jon Moxley, that primarily happened on Dynamite, and we have talked about this a lot. I don't watch Collision, I should, but I don't. So that means my perception, and for those of us that watch Dynamite but don't watch Collision or don't watch it regularly, which is a lot of us.

Mm-hmm.

The perception of this tournament has been

Jon Moxley beating people,

Yep.

which makes it just any other Wednesday night. And so I think if they had removed him from the equation and had him being the final boss at the end of this, would have helped them. And it would have helped Nigel's story as well.

I believe yes, I agree. And if they would've kept Nigel on Dynamite the whole

Mm-hmm.

time, his matches on Dynamite, it would have made it feel more important.

Yep, I agree. I agree. So anyway, Mox wins. We're getting dangerously close to the Lol Cena wins with Jon Moxley here, but whatever.

yeah.

It's all right.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's fine. Although

Yeah, it's fine.

I later in the night I will have a Jon Moxley reference that I think you will appreciate.

Okay, I look forward to it. Good tease.

No, thank you.

Then we got the trios match that we referenced in the heat check that was good, not great.

It was good.

Yeah.

I think we liked it for the same but also different reasons. I I'm

Okay.

always a fan of seeing seeing Cage in there doing his thing.

Yes.

I thought he looked okay tonight. I thought all the Don Callis family members were moving a little slower tonight than normal.

Yeah. Yeah, it could be jet lag for all I know.

Right. but I thought it w you know, it was a fine match. It was about it again, I'm not saying it was textbook, but it was about it was pretty textbook as to w what we were gonna see out of the Bucks and Cope.

Yep, I I I absolutely agree with you on that. So I liked it primarily because of coping the Bucks, they're always fun and putting those three together was fun.

What do you think of the name Young Copes?

big fan. Big fan of that. Yeah, we should do that. Yeah.

Okay. The Young Copes. Okay.

I like that a lot. But, you know, it was they were fun. Them being in, you know, coordinated gear was fun. And

Yeah.

then that match went exactly the way I thought it was gonna go. The moment I saw Rocky Romero coming down the ramp, I went, Well, he's eating the pin.

what a hundred percent.

And so it went exactly the way I thought it was gonna go. You know, oops, almost hit Cope, but didn't, you know. And

Yeah, I thought that was good actually.

I thought it was good too. But again, like I I I will say this. If you had asked me to bet on it, I would have bet that they would have hit him. The inadvertent friendly fire.

Yeah. Yep.

Them stopping was pretty good. I really did like the spot where they I

If I'm not mistaken, they hit Rocky with the super kick party when he did his little slide shimmy thing, or at least one of them super kicked him.

I was gonna say that kick to the head looked

Yeah.

so brutal.

Yeah, that was really good. I really enjoyed that spot. But,

Yes.

you know, again, with this match, it was all about what happened afterwards. Christian was great because he's always great. It was. Yeah. I this this was one of the this was actually one of the higher spots on the show for me. Just because I went, yeah, I I enjoyed everything that happened here. You did what you needed to do. Like, yeah, cool. I'm on board.

Here's here's what I liked about it is because if they were running a typical wrestling playbook,

Mm-hmm.

the Bucs would have accidentally kicked Copeland.

Yes.

But they didn't. They kicked Christian last week. And so you didn't get what you thought you were gonna get. You get the mutual respect at the end going, okay, look, you know, we didn't kick you, and then Christian comes out and is like, screw you, and he

nuts shots him and then there there's a super kick and a spear and everyone's mad. And Copeland

I will say I

I really liked that segment or that that sequence because just the

Yeah. Yeah.

bang bang bang bang of it was really good, I thought.

And I and I like Copeland looking very frustrated at being put between

Mm-hmm.

the two factions. And I think he's I think Cage and Copeland right now are playing their parts so well. Just

I agree.

mmm. Mm. So good. So I really I I did. I like this and I liked the post match stuff. And th you know, when we talked at the beginning about they advanced some storylines, this is the one I think they really advanced.

Yes, I agree.

And one more.

Yeah. I I agree. I think they did a nice job advancing this. Then the well, Willow's music hits,

Yeah.

but she done come out. Instead we cut to the back and she's getting her ass whooped by Mercedes.

Yes, she is. Yeah, I like that fine too. I was gonna

Which I liked. Yeah.

say I I they may have advanced three storylines 'cause I would count this as being advancing the storyline.

I

I would too. Yeah. I I after you said two, I went, probably should have been three 'cause yeah, this

Yeah.

this would count as well. Yeah.

Also, I don't know what Mercedes is wearing on her fingers, but I hope she doesn't wear contacts. Because wow, those things were

Yeah, right. Yeah.

brutal looking.

Yeah. So I enjoyed that though because I thought like it was an extra little sort of visual I don't know, visual cue or whatever of like, you know, she she she mean, she bad. Yeah. Yeah. It was like Disney villain, you know what I mean?

I'm the bad guy? Yep. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

Yes for

I liked that. I liked it all. I thought

that whole thing was really well done.

Mercedes Maleficent.

There you go.

Yeah.

Mercedes DeVille.

Ooh, I like that even better. Awesome.

Thank you.

And then Don Callis would reappear after allegedly being in Croatia, which I'm pretty sure he was actually in Canada, but whatever. I hear

Yeah, same place.

Croatia is a beautiful place and it's a good vacation spot. I don't know. But

Okay.

so he's back and Mark Davis is with him and Renee is talking to them, and the only thing I liked here.

Other than I give it points 'cause I love Don. Was they finally, finally announced a Casino Gauntlet match competitor that isn't one of the first two.

Yes. Yes.

They finally did it.

Yeah. I forgot. Yep.

Yeah. And and to seriously, to my memory, that's the first time they've done that.

You're not wrong. And it wouldn't be the only one tonight.

It would not. And so I liked that enough that that's why it didn't fall into my mild category, although it probably should have, because you're right. I'm I also this is what I put about Mark Davis doing his weird stare headshake thing that I always think you're gonna give yourself an aneurysm when they do that.

Yeah.

I I put Mark doing the weird stare and headshake thing was dot dot dot a choice.

I I would say disturbing, but a choice is also accurate.

But not disturbing in the way they want it to be.

No, not at all. I'm not frightened.

Yeah.

Well, I am frightened, but mostly because I don't want what you have.

Yeah, again, I'm frightened that you're gonna give yourself an aneurysm doing that. Like No. So I don't

Right, and I don't want one of those.

I I agree with you. I think that was a big mistake. I think it would have been much better to have him do more of like a glare or kind of like a smirk into the camera, but really they should have just cut it when Don was done. They didn't need to do the close up of Mark Davis at all. I it

Yeah, no.

that hurt him, quite honestly.

Davis didn't even need to be there.

No, he didn't.

Davis didn't need to be there. I would have preferred it's just Renee and Don and then Don at the end going, Mark, come here. Come in here. This is the guy.

Mm-hmm. Yep.

Done.

Yep. I I agree. That would have been that would have been better. But anyway,

Super weird.

it was. It got real weird. And I don't know why current wrestlers are still doing that. Like all you have to do is look at back in the day when when, you know, Hogan or whomever would do that. And it's like that it was kind of weird back then too, man. Like, yeah.

Yeah, it always felt dumb. Always felt

dumb.

But anyway, then I I I was like, hmm, interesting that we're kind of doing almost the same thing

Thank you.

this close together. Andrade's music hits,

Mm-hmm.

but of course, no, it's really MJF.

And then MJF comes out, and like we said, it didn't quite land the way it usually does.

Mm.

I will say this, I did notice this. I'm so used to MJF having the world title that it it didn't even register with me right away of like, yeah, yeah, he's wearing his belt and all that. Like, yeah,

Right.

like it was when Tony called it out that I went, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right, yeah. wait, he hasn't won the title yet.

Yeah. And I think that might be a compliment to him, but I'm not sure.

Yeah. Or it could be that it AEW has so many belts, it's more obvious when someone doesn't have one than if they do.

That that could be too. That's a fair point. So yeah, his promo was I mean, it's MJF. It's not the worst, but it's he's been better.

Mm-hmm. Yep.

I did really enjoy the Andrade part of it, though. The sneak attack by Andrade I thought was quite good. And him popping up basically in in the crowd there, I thought they they had the camera angle right. Like I thought that went really well.

Yeah, I thought that was well timed Andrade played his part perfectly. I thought Andrade was so passionate, so emotional in this without saying hardly anything, just being just all action. And I I I like that part the best.

Yes. Yeah, I I agree. And I think Andrade, if if somebody is a young wrestler, you're trying to break into the business, watch what he's doing right now because man, it is a master class in how to tell a story and literally say three words.

Right?

It's he's so good right now. So good.

Yeah. I I

I'll continue to say I never saw him in NXT and my first exposure to him in AEW was subpar, and I think a lot of people will say that. This

I think he would say that.

this version of Andrade, I don't know what changed, but I love it, and I think he is just this guy is clicking on all cylinders, and I just want him to keep that positive momentum going.

Well, I think what changed is I think he's motivated. I think that I I I mean Well,

Yeah, I mean I didn't want to be obvious and say that, but I agree, yes.

no, but I mean legitimately, like I think his first run in AEW, he didn't really want to be there, but he had been released and it was like, Well, what else are you gonna do? Are you gonna go back to Mexico? Not probably not, because he and Charlotte had just gotten married. And so

Thought they got divorced then.

they got married in the first run.

that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They were engaged and got actually married in his first run. So,

That's right. Yep.

you know, I can understand. Like, you're not gonna go to Japan, you're not gonna go back to Mexico,

Okay.

you're gonna, you know, AEW wants you. Okay, cool. And the schedule worked out pretty nicely too, because they're running opposite of the WWE schedule, right? So, you know,

Right, yeah.

I totally get it. But it was pretty obvious he didn't want to be there.

No, he did not.

Now he wants to be there. Like this is a guy

Mm-hmm.

who's got something to prove. I think that he is pissed that WWE has released him twice.

Yeah.

And he's like, Okay, let me show you what I can really do and especially do outside of that machine and the way that they micromanage and control everything, unless you're, you know, Cody and Roman Reigns. And honestly,

Yeah, exactly.

it might even be true for Cody. I don't know. But

Maybe. But no, he's he's killing it right now. He is

But he He's

it his personality is so it's it comes through in everything he does. Like you said, three words, he got it over, it started ridiculous, and now I love it.

Yeah, same. I he's he's firing on all cylinders. I don't know. I mean, well, let me put it this way. I think that he's not going to get the world title anytime in the near future, because I do still think Ospreay wins on Sunday, and I think he's going to have a pretty decent, I I would say probably minimum six-month run with it, but we'll see. But Andrade's going to be there, and Andrade might be the guy that takes it off him.

Possibly, yeah, possibly.

Now, like you and I have talked about, I would prefer that he do a nice run with the national championship to try and elevate that title because I think he very much could right now.

Mm-hmm.

But we'll see how this goes.

I would like to see here's and I just thought of this. I would like to see him and MJF get into it. And even if Andrade doesn't win the world title, I would like to see at some point he makes MJF put his triple B up and beat him for that.

Yeah, I could see that. I think that this is headed to an inevitable clash between them for the national championship, which again will help elevate it.

probably. Yeah.

I think that helps elevate it. So if we're not headed there, Tony, that one's free. Use it.

Exactly.

Then we got the Jericho backstage, which again, in if you cut out one part of it, it is pointless and pretty bad. But just like with the Don Callis/Mark Davis promo, I gave this bonus points because now we have another guy who is going to be in the Casino Gauntlet match or at least declaring for it. And it isn't the number one or the number two. So now we have four whole people that have declared

Yeah.

for this match that we know have declared for the match.

That we can now be on the lookout for to see if the match ends before they get to the ring. Thank you.

Exactly. Yes.

Thank you.

That's all I want. That's all we've wanted since this started. Let us know who's

Yep. Yep.

in it.

Yes. And if they don't add more on Collision, that's a mistake. I bet they're going to.

I hope they do.

I hope they do too. And they'll probably announce a couple on social media as well. But give a like I would love for there to be minimum six, but I'd I'd be happy if there were like 10 guys declared for it. So

Yeah. Yep.

now we can actually lock in on this thing and go, okay, who gets in, who doesn't?

Mm-hmm.

If

if they if they do the thing that you and I have been talking about of they end it while somebody's making their entrance,

dude.

I I I will pouch. I will pouch.

Yeah.

One hundred percent. And if and if that happens and they have a and then they have a camera in the back showing the other people who haven't even gotten called yet, showing them wrecking stuff and going through catering or whatever, pouched all day. All day

Yes.

pouching.

And for those of you who are more recent to the show, pouch was the bizarre combo that came out of I think my mouth for Pop on the Couch. I popped on the couch.

Yep. Yep, you popped on the couch and I said you you pouched.

I did. I pouched and we would still like for pouching to be sponsored by Blue Chew.

Thank you.

Then Kyle O'Reilly and Nigel McGuinness went at it in the Continental Cup.

I think I gave this bonus points 'cause man, I wanted to like it more than I did.

I I did too. I I like I said at the beginning, I liked it because it was different. And I think you

Yes it was.

need that. It's just and maybe it's me.

I'm not I'm not against McGuinness. I'm just not compelled to be into his story. It feels less compelling to me than the Maya World does.

I agree.

It feels a little more forced than

Mm-hmm.

the Maya World one. And I get it, Nigel McGuinness, I'm not taking anything away from what he's done for wrestling and English wrestling. I think it's

I think he deserves the spot. I'm not gonna take that

I do too.

away. I'm just not that invested in him.

I I think that the mis

But it was a fine match.

Yeah, I think that the mistake that they made was deciding we're gonna work the injury angle and make him the underdog that way. All you had to do was say, hey, Nigel McGuinness is gonna compete in this thing. It's his dream to

Mm-hmm.

compete for a championship at Wembley. That's the story. Because again, you're talking about a guy who isn't even a part time wrestler. You're talking about a guy

Right.

who is a commentator.

That had an amazing Hall of Fame worthy career. But those days are behind him.

Mm-hmm.

That was the whole story here. And that would have been a more compelling narrative than he's hurt. And we're gonna keep putting him in the ring with guys who do submission stuff.

Yeah, exactly.

You know, it's if you had gone more on the Eddie Kingston route of the underdog who shouldn't be here but gets there, it would

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

have been more compelling. And by the way.

If you're gonna have Eddie bow out due to injury.

Yes. Yes. They claim the the story was he wasn't Eddie wasn't medically cleared to wrestle

Yep.

that night.

Yeah.

How the hell is McGuinness wrestling then? He was in a boot. The first time he

Yep. Well he's cleared, but yeah, but

was in a boot.

Yeah. Yeah. I I know.

But

but Eddie's okay to wrestle sat Friday night? Come

Mm-hmm.

on, come on.

Yeah. That doesn't and and I don't understand what's going on with Eddie. Like, please put him back on TV. Everybody loves him. What is going on here? I don't get it. But anyway,

I don't know. I don't know. Don't know.

look, I like Nigel. I we talked about this last week. I kind of want him to win at Wembley. Mm-hmm.

I would be fine with that. Yeah. If he wins at Wembley, I think that's

that's perfectly acceptable and I would be I'd be cheering.

And I think we we might be headed there. We might be headed that direction.

I agree.

And I I I am on board with that if that's where we're going.

Yep.

But you didn't need the injury angle to

No.

make that an emotional moment, you know.

I will say though, if it weren't for the injury angle, I would care less for me personally.

Okay. That's fair. That's fair. I mean, I I'm more on board with it than you are because I I am on board with I am on the Nigel train. Let's put it that way.

Mm-hmm.

But with that said, you know, the this match was fine. I agree with you if it's a different style. I I thought the match was fine. But you know, the problem was as soon as it was announced, first of all, I didn't pay attention to anything that happened on Collision. Like usually I at least read what happened.

Right.

I just

assumed Orange Cassidy won. So I was surprised Kyle O'Reilly was here.

Mm. Right.

And but the problem is, I knew how this is going to go. I'm like, okay, he's going to work the ankle, work the ankle, work the ankle. And then probably Nigel's going to find a way to win.

Mm-hmm.

And he didn't even work the ankle as much as I thought he was gonna.

No he did not.

I will say this. I don't know when that happened, but whenever Nigel decked him, decked Kyle O'Reilly.

Mm-hmm.

I think

he broke his orbital bone. I dat the way his face was swollen. Oof.

It looked bad.

Well, I noticed when he came in, he did already have a mouse under that right eye.

did he?

It wasn't that pronounced, but he had a

Mm-hmm.

bit of a mouse. If you look, he's got kind of like bags under his eyes anyway, naturally,

Yeah.

but his right eye was s more swole than his other eye. But something happened and that puppy swelled up. It looked painful. Yeah,

That looked bad. Yeah.

it looked bad.

He he at one point they got a shot of him and I went, he looks like he's a character in a Tim Burton claymation movie. And that

Yeah.

is not what you want somebody to say about your face. No, that is not what

No, that's not a compliment, sir. That's not a compliment.

you want.

I was okay with him winning over Orange Cassidy because now you at least you have Nigel McGuinness, who is the underdog, but you have Kyle O'Reilly, who has had a just except for one match, has had Mox's number. So I was like, okay, either one of these guys winning is gonna make sense to me. So at least for that.

Because I think if it was Orange Cassidy, I would have went, well, clearly Nigel's going to win. Even though I thought Nigel was going to win anyway,

at

Yeah.

least having Kyle there, you had the option to go, Well, maybe. But regardless. Yeah.

Yeah, I I would have yeah.

I would have liked if they had done a a little bit more of reminding us of the Mox and Kyle O'Reilly history. Cause

Yes.

I kind of forgot about it. And then I went, yeah, right. That's a thing. Well, maybe he is gonna win, because yeah, that is a thing. But yeah, I it was fine. It was fine. Then Don

Yeah, it's fine. Mm-hmm.

Callis was with Kyle Fletcher, and then also Okada would wander in with Renee.

I put that Okada was wearing a tablecloth suit.

Yeah, I think that's a fair assessment.

I don't know what that was. I didn't hate it. I didn't love it. But I didn't love it.

I didn't hate it either. I I couldn't pull off.

No!

I think only Okada can.

I'm not sure he did, but if anyone could, he could.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was fine.

This bit was fine. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, it it was the f it was fine. My only issue with it is I was like it was kind of the same thing they've already done. So but whatever. It was fine.

Mm-hmm.

It was fine.

I d the one thing I did like about it was

Mm-hmm.

Fletcher calling Okada out for you didn't even help me. And he goes, Kyle, family. And then Kyle

Yes. Yes.

walked away and he goes, always thinking of himself. And I just thought

Yes.

that's so funny.

Yeah, Okada was was very good there as

per usual.

Okay.

It was fine. It was fine. It was fine. It did what it needed to do, I guess. It was fine. Whatever.

Yep, it was okay.

Yeah. Then we got the women's trios match that I really liked. I was really impressed by this. So Persephone

Yeah.

and Divine Dominion versus Maya World and Brawling Birds.

I love these two teams. I think they make for a great matchup. I think pairing them together is brilliant. And I would watch this match over and over again.

Yeah, I I thought it was really good. Like I I will be honest that I didn't have a super high bar going into this, but

Mm-hmm.

they really impressed me. I think even if I had had higher expectations, I think they still would have cleared it. I thought they were really, really good. I think Maya got the biggest pop on the entrance, possibly the biggest pop non Ospreay division of the night.

did she get a bigger pop than the birds got?

I thought yes, but I might have to watch it again. Yeah, she did.

Cause she came out first. She came out first.

And it was pretty she got a pretty big pop.

Yeah, no, it was not a bad pop at all, but

Yeah.

But anyway, that aside, I loved that she taunted Persephone immediately when she got in the ring. Thought that was great.

Yes. Yeah.

I thought very interesting that Persephone got the pin on Maya and then of course held the belt. So I gotta

Yeah, I loved it. Mm-hmm.

believe that they're because Maya doesn't have a dance partner for Sunday. I gotta believe they're gonna make this match.

Yeah. And they got a two hour Buy-In, so you know.

Yeah.

Yeah, I gotta believe they're gonna make that match and I am very on board for that 'cause I like both of them. But I thought Yeah.

Mm-hmm. I thought I thought Persephone looked great. I thought Maya

World looks looked great. For once, I feel like Divine Dominion looked strong the way they should against a strong team. I was very happy with how this match went. Very happy with it.

Yeah. Thought it

thought it went really, really well. Really good match.

Well

Mm-hmm.

done.

I had that as my possible match of the night. And up

I did too. I did too.

and up until that point, it probably was.

It it absolutely was the match of the night until and by the

Yeah. Yeah.

way, that for me is the third one that actually advanced storyline.

Yep. Same. Yep.

Yeah. Then we got that main event and Swerve. It was fine. I

Well, we had the Kevin Knight Darby recap, which was fine. Yep.

I my rule generally going forward is I'm gonna skip the video recaps because they don't they're fine. They're gonna be

Mm.

well produced, they're fine, but you know, it's fine. Like I get

Yeah.

it.

Yep.

You're

telling me about a match that's happening this Sunday. Yep, got it. Thanks. You know, all good.

The good part about it was they were able to make it look like the pyro exploded when it should have in the recap.

Yeah,

I I paid special attention to that and I went, yeah, that's probably how it was supposed to look. Yeah.

Absolutely it was.

Yep. So main event time, Swerve Strickland versus Jungle Jack Perry. Banger.

Yes, I wrote down, I don't get why this match happened, but I'm glad it did.

I I put down I really liked these two together despite there being no stakes. I agree. I have no idea why we did it, but let's do it again.

And this is this is what I mean by this night lacked tension. Because while this match, yes, I loved it. This was a great match.

Yep. Yep.

Why is this your main event on Dynamite before All In?

I think that's a completely fair question. And and I think it was also weird that you

Mm-hmm.

have Swerve floating in the ether, and we know that he's somehow going to get involved in the trios match. They made that little tease, but then you did

Anyway.

nothing to remind us of it. You did nothing to advance that. Like, why doesn't he get on the mic?

Afterward and go, you know, say hi to Hangman and just go,

Yeah.

We'll see you Sunday. You know what I mean? Like I don't because again, remember my question from last week? Is this a multi team match or not? Doug, is this a multi team match or not? I we don't know. We don't even know if there's a match. And it's Sunday. It's four

We don't know yet. So we still don't know. We don't even know if it's a match. We don't even know if there's a match for the trio's titles yet. We don't know. I know.

days away.

I was stunned we didn't hear about it tonight. Stunned. And yet not at all

I was too. I was too.

surprised.

Yeah. So yeah, I I think this is this to me was like on one hand, the perfect snapshot of what you said of for a go home for your biggest show, you lacked stakes, you lacked tension, you lacked heat.

Mm-hmm. Yep.

On the other hand, it is the perfect snapshot of what makes AEW great. That match.

Exactly. Exactly.

was incredible. And they gave it to you on a free Wednesday night.

Yes, that that could main event a pay-per-view, without a doubt. I'm not

Yeah. You

I'm not saying that couldn't have. I'm not saying it shouldn't be a main event. But

Nope. I know. Yeah. Yeah.

and this is where I'm going to make my callback to Moxley. Swerve looks like the most legit guy on the roster. And if you were to put him and Mox together, I don't think there's any way Moxley looks remote. Moxley looks like a cartoon compared to Swerve.

I would agree. Yeah.

in the legitimacy phase because

Mm-hmm.

don't get me and again maybe it's because I'm having a little bit of just I'm I'm a little over Moxley at this point. I'm

I am too.

a little over the Superman act. I'm a little over him just steamrolling everybody and winning. But it's his weird post

That's why I made the Cena comparison.

Yeah, it's his weird posturing of being a tough guy that makes him not look like a tough guy.

And yet Swerve doesn't posture and he looks like he's the toughest man on the frickin' planet.

One might even say the most dangerous.

One would, some may even sing it. I won't.

Some might.

Some might. Yeah, I I agree with you. so All In is a is going to be somewhat fascinating to me because I have legitimate questions about what are we doing with the world title after it? Okay. And I mean that in a good way, to be clear.

Yep. Yeah.

Because you've got this Casino Gauntlet match, and whoever wins that is going to be the number one contender.

Mm-hmm.

But we know that they're not shy about putting somebody who's not necessarily that main event headline of pay-per-view type, you know, character that's more of the upper card upper mid card, right?

Mm-hmm.

They're not shy about having somebody like that win it, and then they get their title shot

Yeah, good thing.

on a Dynamite and whatever, right?

Right.

Which I'm okay with, by the way.

Mm-hmm.

So the Casino Gauntlet match becomes fascinating to me. Plus now we know four people that have declared we'll probably get more like I'm I'm very interested in that match now.

The main event I was always going to be interested in, because my God. But

Yeah.

like, so now I'm looking at this and I'm going, okay, so you've kind of inserted Swerve into the trio's picture, kinda.

Maybe.

Maybe. And if we're right that he's gonna he's gonna be the introduction of New Day, I think those three have got to win it.

I thought it was gonna be Swerve and Boom & Doom.

Don't rule it out.

I won't.

Don't rule it out.

No, it can't be that because who's gonna wrestle on the Buy-In if it's not Boom & Doom?

Who said it wasn't gonna be on the Buy-In?

that fair, fair.

Again, we know nothing about this if the match even exists. You know what I mean? So

Exact. Exactly.

So I think that if you're going to put Swerve in that trio's title picture and and if it's gonna be Swerve Day and Okay.

Mm-hmm.

Okay. I I have n that's fine.

But to your point, he looks so legit. I don't know how long you can keep him away from that world title. And I think you potentially miss an opportunity because I'm not saying that you it this isn't like when they had to kind of build Darby's resume after he had won the title.

Right.

Ospreay's legit. But if Ospreay's first

Three defenses, let's say, are in some order, Swerve, maybe an MJF, and then maybe a rematch with Omega, but maybe a Jon Moxley, Maybe he gives Darby a match, you know what I mean?

Right.

But if thou if those are like the first three or four, maybe there's a him and Hangman somewhere in there too, and Will beats all those guys, I mean, come on, like

Mm-hmm.

you can't say that he's flavor of the week at that point. You know what I mean?

No.

And so that's where I think it's very fascinating of how are they gonna start positioning people for Ospreay, assuming that he does win on Sunday, which I think he's going to.

I agree.

And so I think it's a very fascinating show from that standpoint. And I ha I I have some trouble fantasy booking that, to be honest with you.

Indep d again, the only we know four people in the Casino Gauntlet match. Clearly the the heavy favorites are MJF and Andrade. But like you said, that doesn't mean a a wild card couldn't sneak in and make it happen. It could be a new signing. It could be someone coming back that we haven't seen in a minute, or it could be, like you said, an upper mid-carter that is is starting to crest. I'm not sure who that would be at the moment.

Kevin Knight was kind of that guy, but he's kind of already on that rise. Kyle Fletcher used to be that guy, but he's kind of on that rise. I don't know if Speedball is quite there yet. possibly,

Yeah, I would agree.

but I don't know. You've already taken Eddie Kingston out because of injury, and he might have the CMLL world title by that point. I'm I'm not sure who a surprise could be.

So I think you've got I I

One I mean, unless

you take like one of the Don Callis family members who's, you know, like Hechicero, I think that would be a legitimate contender.

Mm-hmm. I think there's

a very, very, I want to emphasize very outside chance that they do have Mark Davis win it because there's history with him and Ospreay. I think

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

there's a very outside chance that he wins it. But again, th then we're doing that on a Wednesday. We're not headlining a pay-per-view with that. But I think there's a chance he could he could win it. I think

That's weird.

I think Mystico is an interesting name

Yeah.

that could be floating out there that they might bring in. And again,

You're doing it on a Wednesday, but that'll be a banger of a match, you know.

I think you could take Brody King and have him in that

I I think you could do that.

I think you're right. I think there's a chance that it's a new signing. I think there's a chance it's somebody like a Wardlow that comes back and they they let him win. I know.

God, I forgot about Wardlow even existing.

I know. But you know, somebody like that comes back, that person wins, it's a surprise, and then they don't really challenge for the title, but maybe you can move off to like the TNT title or something like that.

Mm-hmm.

I think

I think there's a chance they do something like that with the Casino Gauntlet match because I agree that on the surface you're looking at it going, it's Andrade and MJF and then everybody else, right?

Basically, yeah.

But I think they're gonna use the match to escalate the Andrade MJF feud. And I think

I agree.

that then ultimately those two are gonna take each other out of it. And and

Probably yeah.

that's where I think it's not gonna be one of those two guys, even though there's an argument that it should be one of those two guys, but

Right.

But that's where I think, you know, Mark Davis becomes interesting. I think that Brian Cage is a little bit interesting.

Yeah, I don't see them putting him in that position. I would love to see it.

I don't either. Yeah.

I would love to see it even more outsider with Lance Archer, but I don't think he's gonna be that guy. I think

I don't think so either. Yeah.

Mark Davis is if you're looking at the Don Callis family, I think either Mark Davis or Hechicero, but Davis makes the most sense.

Yep. Right now he does. Yeah. Yeah, but but again, and then I think again, you know, without pulling up the roster and looking at it, you know, I I'm gonna guess Ciampa ends up in there.

No possibly, yeah. He

I don't know that I'd do it, but

he might be in there. I don't think you know. I mean

I don't know that I

would pull the trigger on him, but at least he's a name.

Yeah.

I don't know. I and I think there's a pretty like right now, again, if I were gonna bet, I would put I would consider putting money on Mark Davis, but I would want to bet on like other. Because I think that there's a better chance that the winner of the Casino Gauntlet match is somebody that we don't know is on the roster or is coming back.

I think there's a better chance of that than it being somebody that we have seen consistently on TV for the last, you know, couple of months or whatever.

So you're saying it's my guess of Bailey.

no, I don't think it's gonna be Bailey. I do think it's going to be Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Finally.

Could you imagine? Could you imagine? It's Bret Hart, actually.

I thought it was gonna be I thought it was gonna be El Higante.

It it it is what's his name? Can't think of his doesn't matter.

This is always my favorite when you try to come up with it and can't. This is my favorite. Cause now I wanna play like now I want to play guess who and see if I can figure it out.

It's i he's a Hart but he's like the least popular any I I don't I don't I'm not even sure he's alive now.

As I say, if he's a Hart, there's a pretty good chance he's dead.

He's the one that was weird and was like raises cats and brings a cat to the ring. Which Hart is that?

It y it wasn't Neidhart, was it? It wasn't Anvil? No.

No, it was a guy

Balls.

wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Was it was it Natty's husband?

No.

No.

Well, this has been fun. All right, you do that.

Now I gotta now I gotta look it up. 'Cause I don't remember

You know who it's gonna be, it's gonna be Greg the Hammer Valentine.

I hope it is, but it is not.

It's not.

Yeah, I don't know. But anyway, so if I were, you know, the the Casino Gauntlet match becomes very interesting from that standpoint. Again, how are they gonna line these guys up for Ospreay becomes fascinating to me.

I'm not sure how you do that. I'm not sure who you put in that lineup either.

I'm not either.

But it but it is a it's a good problem to have because you again,

It is.

you still have plenty of legitimate I mean legitimate threats to the throne.

Yes. I you know, when you said Speedball, I was like, you know, I wouldn't hate it if it was him.

thinking

thinking back on it, th you could put him in that position. I think he he is ready for that position. And it and

I think you could do it. Yeah.

it would be an interesting match. I don't think he takes it, but I think it's a

I don't either.

I think it's a hell of a Dynamite main event.

I do too. And and again, I think that that's what you're looking at is it's gonna be somebody that's gonna be a Dynamite main event. I don't think you're gonna build a pay-per-view story out of this. But

No.

I could be wrong.

Teddy Hart, that's who it was.

That weirdo.

Yeah.

I'd like some clarity on the trios thing between now and then.

I I

I would like any news on the trios thing. Any any news on the

I would too. And

trios thing.

you know what? Let's just go ahead and say it. I think the winner of the Casino Gauntlet match is a returning Cody Rhodes.

I was gonna bring him up but I thought I we haven't mentioned that bit in a minute, so I was

Yeah.

gonna let it lay, but

I'm kidding. I meant CM Punk.

I hate your face so much right now.

That that ain't never gonna happen. But I mean, I know it's

Yeah, yeah.

wrestling, never say never, but I don't think it was gonna happen. So you want actually, this

I hope it doesn't happen. Screw that guy. Seriously.

just popped in my head. You want a legit dark horse candidate for that Casino Gauntlet match that just might win it, and they actually could do a pay-per-view storyline out of it. Samoa Joe.

Yes.

Yes. Yes. That's so weird. I thought about him tonight when I was thinking of Swerve being one of the most legit guys on the roster. Samoa Joe came into my head and then apparently went right out. But yeah, Samoa Joe would make a lot of sense.

All right. So with that note, All In is coming and I'm looking forward

Yeah.

to it. So we will talk about that on Sunday.

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Yeah.

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you can have some baller cookies for your all in experience and we will

You want?

break that down on Sunday night. Well, it'll probably come out on Monday. I don't know. We'll see. Yeah,

Probably Sunday afternoon.

I say that it might come out Sunday night, depending

'Cause it starts at n well, the the Buy-In starts at ten AM here.

I think the Buy-In starts Saturday, knowing them.

No, it's the there's the the the Buy-In starts at ten AM here and then the pay-per-view kicks off at noon.

Yeah, I know. That was a joke.

well it could have been. Could have been. I really I legitimately had to think about it though, going,

That was a joke with how they like to do Yeah.

Maybe it does.

It was a joke with how they like to do eight thousand hours of wrestling, so

you know what? It probably is gonna end at nine anyway.

Probably. Yeah. Well, we'll

And it

find out. So anyway, the All In episode will be out either Sunday night or Monday. We'll see. I don't know. It'll depend on how late they go. But

who?

it should be, I'm sure we'll have a lot to talk about.

I'm so excited about the main event. I assume it's gonna be

I'm too.

Ospreay and Kenny for the main event. I'm so excited about it.

yeah, it

will. Yeah. I'm I'm excited for the main event. I'm excited for the whole show. I even the stuff that it's like I don't understand what we're doing here. I'm just like whatever. Let's just let's go. Let's do it.

Yep. I'm excited.

Yep. So that will be on Sunday. And then come Wednesday, it will be a whole new era, I suspect, if I may steal that from Triple H, that it's a new era.

The Ospreay era,

Yep.

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