The Dumb Zone FREE

Dan McDowell and Blake Jones kick things off by explaining how you can enjoy their podcast, which, by the way, is free every Monday and Thursday. But wait, there’s a twist! If you’re feeling particularly fancy, you can unlock Tuesday and Friday episodes behind a paywall at patreon.com/thedumbzone. That’s right, folks, for the price of a mediocre latte, you can double your dumbness.

The crew dives into some heavy-hitting topics, starting with the riveting world of horse racing. Did you know they shoot horses with broken ankles right on the track? Yeah, it’s like a spaghetti western out there. But don’t worry, we don’t just dwell on the macabre. The gang discusses everything from the decline of horse racing to UFC’s brutal early days, and somehow, Johnny Manziel sneaks into the conversation.

But that’s not all. The guys recap an eventful NFL Championship weekend, breaking down the highlights, the lowlights, and everything in between. If you missed the games, don’t worry – they’ve got you covered with their own unique spin on all the action.

Then, Jake Kemp shares a harrowing tale of a family hotel disaster in Fort Worth, leading to an unexpected deep dive into the wild, rule-free days of early MMA. Imagine a 350-pound guy fighting a 150-pound guy. Sounds fair, right? Spoiler: it’s not.

In the latter half, things get personal and hilarious. Dan recalls a trip to the Fort Worth Children’s Museum, which, believe it or not, includes a 9/11 memorial right next to dinosaur exhibits. Nothing says family fun like a bit of historical trauma. And speaking of odd juxtapositions, Dan ponders if he could moonlight as a babysitter. The verdict? Probably not.

Jake wraps up with a story about flag football officiating that makes the NFL look like a well-oiled machine. Plus, there’s talk of comedian Stavros Halkias, Cowboys roasts in Dallas, and the utterly surreal experience of seeing a comedian try new material with notes on stage.

Oh, and they finally get to the bottom of this whole Vince McMahon thing. Yeah, it’s as bizarre as you’d expect. And don’t miss their thoughts on Luka Doncic, because what’s a sports podcast without a little NBA chatter?

0:00 - Open
33:30 - Luka
57:00 - NFL weekend
1:46:45 - News
2:00:30 - Viewer Mail/Today in History
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Creators and Guests

Host
Dan McDowell
Who IS Dan McDowell? Dan is a complex personality, as are most of the small breed of modern day renaissance millionaires.... Email: bracketdan@hotmail.com
Host
Jake Kemp
why, we are on this particular mission, we’ll never know
Producer
Blake Jones
Blake.jonesradio@gmail.com

What is The Dumb Zone FREE?

The Dumb Zone featuring Dan McDowell and Jake Kemp. A Dallas based podcast covering sports, news, and entertainment. These are the free episodes of The Dumb Zone. To receive the full catalogue, subscribe to our Patreon at Patreon.com/TheDumbZone

Dan McDowell:

Welcome to the current model of our podcast, which is totally free every Monday Thursday, wherever you get your podcast, including right here. It would be a great bit if you subscribe or follow. We do a minimum of 4 total episodes each week, and 2 of them can be heard behind a paywall at patreon.com/thedumbzone. So Monday Thursday, free everywhere. Tuesday Friday will be behind a paywall atpatreon.com/ the dumb zone.

Dan McDowell:

Now here's today's program.

Blake Jones:

The dumb zone.

Howard Stern Audio:

Did they once have to, like, shoot a horse right on the track? Like Oh, yeah.

Howard Stern Audio:

Yeah. The horse broke his ankle or something, and they had to put him down.

Howard Stern Audio:

You know, again, I don't know anything about horse racing, but it seems to me, like, that's pretty harsh. Like, dude, you can't I mean, in this day and age, we can't fix a horse's ankle.

Dan McDowell:

Barbara again.

Blake Jones:

How's my prediction doing? Terribly.

Jake Kemp:

Reset. I think about 7 years ago, I said horse racing has 20 years left. A lot of this

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. It's just it's just not mainstream enough.

Jake Kemp:

For people to get mad about

Dan McDowell:

it? Yeah. If it was more popular. Like Indians? I mean, like, the Cleveland Indians becoming a good team, and then now it's mainstream enough for people to start talking about.

Jake Kemp:

So the Redskins didn't even have to get good. That's true. So that's what I'm saying. Though. It's the NFL.

Jake Kemp:

That's

Dan McDowell:

that's The UFC. Once UFC started to get a little more popular, they had to stop the it used to be really brutal.

Jake Kemp:

I don't know if I've ever told you this story, but, a good friend of mine, my cousin, who listens to this podcast Alright.

Dan McDowell:

What's up, bruv?

Jake Kemp:

He was actually a manager at the hotel that, blew up in Fort Worth a couple weeks ago.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. I heard you mention him.

Jake Kemp:

And I say was because I don't know if that place is coming back or not.

Dan McDowell:

Oh, not because he blew up?

Jake Kemp:

He did not blow up. No. He did and he also did not blow up the hotel. His dad, my uncle, great dude, in like the late, probably late nineties, was the guy you would go to for, like, bootleg MMA tapes. Okay.

Jake Kemp:

They used to let people fight, like, they had no weight classes. They would just have, like, a £350 guy fight, like, a £150 guy. See, that sounds awesome. There were, like, no rules, You know? It was basically not really a referee.

Jake Kemp:

I think that's when John McCain got involved, actually. Insane for John McCain.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. So it and it it got popularity Yes. Got on to his radar.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. I have you for horse racing is done between 2030 and 2035.

Jake Kemp:

It's kinda what I

Blake Jones:

said. Yeah. You're still on.

Jake Kemp:

But you're right though. It's it's probably not big enough for people to get mad about it. It just seems weird to me in a world where, you know, I don't know. It feels like PETA is around every corner that we're still like, let's just whip the shit out of these animals and have them run fast. It seems weird, but I don't really care either.

Dan McDowell:

Right. Will it be horse racing or Manziel on the PGA Tour or Dan becoming a helicopter pilot?

Jake Kemp:

Oh. I would actually say Dan becoming a helicopter pilot, horse racing Manziel in order of things that could occur.

Dan McDowell:

Not a lot of belief in Johnny Manziel.

Jake Kemp:

No. But, not a lot of not a lot of belief on him becoming a pro golfer.

Dan McDowell:

Alright. Dan, helicopter pilot, horse racing, Mansell PGA Tour, Mansell face tattoo. Oh, let

Jake Kemp:

me take the bottom one and move it to the top. Oh, to the top.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

That's even over okay.

Jake Kemp:

I don't know. I mean, I've seen the guy smoking cigarettes. Well, it's just

Dan McDowell:

he's old school. The players used to do that at half time.

Jake Kemp:

That's true. That's true.

Dan McDowell:

Happy Monday, guys, if you celebrate.

Jake Kemp:

I had a big weekend. Oh. So on Saturday, I had a 2fer. I went to something called the Children's Museum in Fort Worth, and I'm only telling you about this because I think everyone needs to take their small child there. It was super cool.

Dan McDowell:

I may have done that. Maybe I I don't know. Do they have the thing where you can dig around for artifacts in the sand thing? Okay.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. We've been there.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. And when I lived there

Dan McDowell:

You're just looking for when you got little kids Anything.

Jake Kemp:

Yes. Looking

Dan McDowell:

to kill time. It might be just going to the mall.

Jake Kemp:

My father-in-law was with us. So I was like, okay. You know, let's just figure something out. And, I used to live across the street, but I never knew it was there. Because we moved when Nora was, like, 8 months old or something.

Jake Kemp:

But it's a really great time kill. And it was actually free because the stock show is going on.

Dan McDowell:

And are is it the same bit of are you learning?

Jake Kemp:

Oh my god.

Dan McDowell:

Along with your 4 year old?

Jake Kemp:

A little precipitation talk. I definitely knew that's how oceans work. No. But it was it it's really cool. They have a bunch of, like, you know

Dan McDowell:

How does all the water not just fly off the

Jake Kemp:

Dinosaurs are always, like, a a key component to these things. Mhmm. You know? So they've got, like, bones. They had, like, a really cool deal where you could, like, take out a piece of paper that had, you know, like, the it was basically like a coloring thing of a of 5 different dinosaurs.

Jake Kemp:

You could color it. You could put it on this thing. You could press scan, and it would show up on the screen the way that you drew it. Like a flat screen, you know, like movie screen, basically. So, if you drew it like red and green, you would press scan and then there would be, like, a red and green stegosaurus up there.

Jake Kemp:

It's really cool. Is that confusing?

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. I'm just not that doesn't seem that cool. What do you think?

Jake Kemp:

Well, it's really more that, like, you could have the kid color something.

Dan McDowell:

And then they'll see it up on the

Jake Kemp:

And then you press a button. You put it you put it down. You press a button, and it shows up on the screen like walking.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. Oh. Oh. Oh. Okay.

Dan McDowell:

It's moving. Oh, yeah. Alright. No. I just thought

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Or like a pterodactyl flying.

Blake Jones:

I've seen a projector before.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. It is.

Jake Kemp:

It's not it's not like That's what

Blake Jones:

I was saying. No.

Jake Kemp:

No. No. For real. Like, you could draw, like, a blue pterodactyl. Okay.

Jake Kemp:

Put the thing on a computer screen. Alright. Press a button, and it's a blue pterodactyl, like, flying by.

Dan McDowell:

Gonna go there even without kids.

Jake Kemp:

But there was a bunch of there was a bunch of other cool stuff there. It was a really it was a really cool place. And then

Dan McDowell:

What if I just liked kids and I said I wanted to be a babysitter? Would people hire me as their babysitter?

Jake Kemp:

Probably not, dude.

Dan McDowell:

Then you're on your way out to dinner. It's like, alright, Dan. Hey. Alright. I mean, you know, like, hey.

Dan McDowell:

I was a good father. I kinda liked doing it. Yeah. I I wouldn't mind having new kids with a new hotline. Prepared?

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Yeah. Like, you're if you leave your kid with my 16 year old daughter, you're like, what's what if something goes awry?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I mean If

Dan McDowell:

something goes awry with me, this guy's got it.

Jake Kemp:

Do NFL teams do NFL teams hire, high school kids or former players? Right.

Dan McDowell:

This guy's done it all. He's he's been through. He's he's seen

Jake Kemp:

it. Right.

Dan McDowell:

He's not gonna be a a yeah. How how come I can't get that?

Jake Kemp:

You know, societally, you're probably right. It's just the whole pedophilia angle.

Dan McDowell:

Alright. Go ahead. I just got to thinking I would like to go to see that thing at the museum. It's pretty cool. Weird for me to go there without kids.

Dan McDowell:

You can. Maybe I could just You

Jake Kemp:

definitely can't go alone.

Dan McDowell:

Have a friend's kid go with me.

Jake Kemp:

I'll lend you a kid. But then, Saturday night, I went to go see a a comedian, Stavros Haukias. He is formerly of Comtown. And, he's, like, the biggest Ravens fan in the world.

Dan McDowell:

He actually didn't see him after.

Jake Kemp:

He puts out videos where, he does, like, a Baltimore accent. Like, he's, like, a fat Greek guy, and he puts out videos where he does, like, a Baltimore accent called Ronnie Ravens. And, the Ravens have actually embraced this. Like, they'll post him on their team account. He canceled back in, like, October, and he's doing the show Saturday night.

Jake Kemp:

I went with TC. He's wearing a Lamar Jersey, and he's like, listen. If I wouldn't have canceled in October, I would not be here right now. Mhmm. But then somebody sent me a a photo at about 6 AM on Saturday morning.

Jake Kemp:

He did a 7 and a 10 and red eyed back, and he was at the game.

Blake Jones:

Jeez.

Jake Kemp:

Nice. Yeah. And the Ravens posted, a video of him. He spent about the first 15 minutes. This is the the the fun thing about Dallas.

Jake Kemp:

He spent about the first 15 minutes just making fun of the Cowboys, and nobody was mad. Like, if you do that in, like, Philadelphia, people are like, fuck you. I love this town. In Dallas, everyone's just like, yeah. It sucks.

Jake Kemp:

Jerry sucks. The cowboys suck. We get it. Yeah. But it was great.

Jake Kemp:

It was a it was a great time. And it was cool too because, you know, a lot of times, when you go see a a comedian who's touring, they're kinda just doing a special that you've already seen with, like, maybe a 30% mix of new stuff. This was like, the special's a year old. I'm gonna try everything tonight new, which was a little bit weird because he had, like, notes. Like, there were times where he would, like, look at, like, the barstool and be, like, I'm gonna try to figure out which one of these is it, like, an ender.

Jake Kemp:

And I've never seen that before. Like, when I saw Shane, he basically did the Shane net or, YouTube show.

Dan McDowell:

Mhmm. So

Jake Kemp:

he was just like, all this is entirely new. A lot of it's gonna suck, and you'll see it in 18 months.

Blake Jones:

Well, how was it?

Jake Kemp:

It was amazing because he's great. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

I once saw Pauley Shore in Dayton just doing a show off of notes, the whole show, and I thought it was it didn't seem cool like that because it wasn't that funny. Wasn't notes. And it was But it was like ultimate disrespect. Yeah. It kinda, like, all these people paid money.

Dan McDowell:

I paid money. Or maybe I didn't pay money because the radio station. Yeah. The because we had them on, you know, on the show. We used to get comedians on.

Jake Kemp:

Comedians too.

Blake Jones:

Well, he's only 55.

Jake Kemp:

Are you sure?

Blake Jones:

Yeah. I don't know why I thought he would be older. He does seem older.

Jake Kemp:

I'm surprised he's alive.

Dan McDowell:

I believe I saw he was gonna be in a Richard Simmons biopic.

Jake Kemp:

Oh, yeah. I would watch that.

Blake Jones:

I think I heard about that.

Dan McDowell:

Do you know about his mom? I feel like, visually, that's who he looks like.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. He's spot on. No. Mitzi?

Jake Kemp:

I think she passed in the last 5 years. Yeah. Owner of the, Comedy Store. World famous, comedy venue. I've read a really good book on that.

Jake Kemp:

That famous.

Dan McDowell:

No? Yeah. I've read a real good book on that. The days of The Comedy Store. That's I'm fascinated by stand up.

Dan McDowell:

I wonder if

Jake Kemp:

It's literally the only thing I consume.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. I watched, a bit this weekend. I saw the the Jacqueline lady that you told me about.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Cool.

Dan McDowell:

And, I watched this

Jake Kemp:

That's cool.

Dan McDowell:

The newest Chappelle. I like that one too. Which is a couple weeks old, but it was pretty good. Yeah. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

It's just way easier for me to consume than like like, I'm having a hard time getting to Fargo. And, like, I don't dislike it. But I watch, like, an episode, and then I watch another one, like, a week and a half later.

Dan McDowell:

Stand up's good because I can stop after 15 or 20 minutes if you feel like it.

Jake Kemp:

You know about our rule. What's that? I think I've extended it to 10, but my wife has previously, it was the 5 minute rule.

Dan McDowell:

If you're not grabbed by 5 minutes?

Jake Kemp:

If you can't laugh in 5 minutes, then go. Because I

Dan McDowell:

just mean I like the Jacqueline lady. I can't remember her name. But Jacqueline Novak. But, it's really long.

Jake Kemp:

It is so well, it's an hour and 30 minutes.

Dan McDowell:

It's very It's very intense. Intense. So I can only take, like, about 20 minutes at a time. Yeah. Like, I need a break.

Dan McDowell:

I get that. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

But our deal is, like, your best stuff is gonna be at the beginning and the end. And so if you cannot get people to laugh, like, in the first 10 minutes, you're probably not gonna be interested in minute 48.

Dan McDowell:

I'd like to try it again.

Jake Kemp:

Try stand up, so would I. And At this stage The only reason I don't is that, everyone would make fun of me because it would suck.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. No. I think it would, but I've been keeping stand up notes for a couple years.

Jake Kemp:

Same. And I use most of it here. That's why this show is so electric.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. No. Obviously, we use a lot. And some stuff we say here, I'll jot down, like, oh, that might be a a good bit, but it stand up seems so difficult to me. Just the whole being able to do it again as if you just are doing it for the first

Jake Kemp:

time. Yeah. And, I mean, if you just wanna do it, like, recreationally, like, you wouldn't really have to do that.

Dan McDowell:

But it seems to be good. You have to really do it a

Jake Kemp:

lot. For sure. And speaking of Akash, that's what we're before the show. Like, he's been on me about it for years, and I'm sure he has been with you. I know he's he was trying to get Donovan to do it.

Dan McDowell:

No. I don't think he thinks I'm funny. He's he's never said, hey. You should do it, but I I like, now I actually do probably have more time that I could do it. I don't know.

Jake Kemp:

One of my writing gigs was heavily stand up focused. Like, I would just go to basically open mic nights. This is how I met Paul Varghese. You met him before. Yeah?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Yeah. So I would just go to, like I think it was like a a club attached to a hotel, and I would go there every week for, like, 4 months.

Dan McDowell:

I did talk to Akash the other day. He said we should be doing, like, a as the future unfolds, we should do a show at a comedy club every month, like, once a month. Blake? Just do a night. No.

Dan McDowell:

Do the podcast. He said that's a good bit.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. I,

Dan McDowell:

But would anybody go? No. That's the thing. No.

Blake Jones:

I've always thought that we should do a segment of because the when I got in close with hyenas downtown because they got us a couple people on the show, you know, he was always sending me names of people, you know, that were coming through town that I hadn't heard of. But part of Dan's thing is just, like, have him a part of the show. And if they're funny, then we establish a relationship. And if they're not, then we just let them go. And they we could just have this comedian be a part of our show every once in a while.

Dan McDowell:

So even if we don't really know who they are?

Blake Jones:

Yeah. It's Let's just stay.

Jake Kemp:

Hey. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

That's that's probably, like and maybe that, fits into one of the themes on today's show as I look at our run sheet. It's Monday.

Jake Kemp:

Do you want me to read you real quick the the a brief, anecdote from my stand up notes?

Dan McDowell:

Sure. But let me just say that so it's Monday. We and we're gonna be talking about like, one of the things on my run sheet is we're gonna do a live spot about live spots. Yes. We are.

Dan McDowell:

We're gonna do our 1st live spot today, but it's gonna be held about live spots because we're allowed to take advertising now. And maybe that's like a future advertising or trade deal or something, you know, with a comedy club. Maybe it's a a whole all encompassing, you know, we'll we'll have your guy on every week even if we don't know who they are. Because a lot of I would get texts and emails from every one of my comedy Yeah. Contacts.

Dan McDowell:

And unless they were well known, I didn't want them on our show. Yeah. But like Blake says, now also just hang on. Okay. Maybe now is the time for Bruce Bruce.

Dan McDowell:

Now's the time for yeah. Okay. Sorry. Your comedy notes. I was thinking gentlemen, new segment.

Jake Kemp:

I was thinking about this, Jake's phone. Because I'm not really allowed to do anything. That's not the joke. Oh, sorry.

Dan McDowell:

I thought we were. What a jerk.

Blake Jones:

I thought we were the crowd.

Dan McDowell:

What a jerk. Just didn't

Blake Jones:

know when the punch line

Dan McDowell:

was. Never mind. Oh, come on. You can't let this guy beat you down. Like, I

Jake Kemp:

don't know. Dan doesn't deal with this, but I definitely, do. I imagine Blake to a certain extent does. Although Blake has a lot more scene control than I do. I'm notably the lack of scene control guy.

Jake Kemp:

And, like, if I tell my wife I wanna do something, she does like the this is not how I would do it on stage. She does like the well, where are you gonna be When are you getting home? What time are you leaving? Who's gonna be there?

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. My wife is very inquisitive that way too.

Jake Kemp:

Where are you going?

Dan McDowell:

Where have you been? What'd you do? Like, I and if she's not here

Jake Kemp:

Are you I don't ask any questions.

Dan McDowell:

Not a no.

Jake Kemp:

I'm I'm It's not a single inquiry.

Dan McDowell:

I'm I'm just happy she's not here. And when she gets back

Jake Kemp:

You're like, oh, you're home.

Dan McDowell:

Have you noticed this too When she's like, hey. How was your day? She doesn't wanna know about your day. No. She wants to tell you about her day.

Jake Kemp:

It's a a call and response.

Dan McDowell:

Because I'll be like, I don't know. Fine is I don't know what we did. I don't remember what we you know? And then she's like, well Let me tell you.

Jake Kemp:

Let me

Dan McDowell:

tell you about So the

Jake Kemp:

funny part to me was thinking about, like, in keeping with the theme of the show, like, that the guys who did 911, like, had to explain less than I do. Like, they didn't even have to train to land. They didn't have to they nobody was like, where are you gonna go? Like, they didn't even have to provide an answer. I have to be like, alright.

Jake Kemp:

7 to 11. This restaurant, this bar, this is who's here. I'll get the kids up in the morning. And the the homeboys from 911 are just like

Dan McDowell:

You should just you should just get that Life 360 Yeah. App that you've been Yeah. Against getting.

Jake Kemp:

So it's not a great joke, but I do think it's, like, I do think about 911 a lot.

Dan McDowell:

See, that's the thing, and that's the thing about being a stand up comedian. You could think a lot of funny things or little threads, but, like, how do you then put it together to be in a logical form to actually get somebody to

Jake Kemp:

I mean, I had something written out, but then Blake kinda, like, kicked my dick in Yeah. At the start of the setup. So Well,

Dan McDowell:

you're gonna have to deal with Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. That's true.

Dan McDowell:

In the audience.

Jake Kemp:

That's true.

Dan McDowell:

He's just helping.

Blake Jones:

That's true. I thought you had a 911 note over the weekend.

Jake Kemp:

Oh, you know what? I do. Did I send you guys that? Yeah. Okay.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. So at that children's, museum where you can see a Brachiosaurus and you can see how wind works and you can color. There is a 911 Memorial with a huge piece of the tower and an interactive scene over to the side of it where you can

Dan McDowell:

Jump out of the

Blake Jones:

No. Not You can do the falling man.

Jake Kemp:

No. But you can press buttons that say, like, attack response. The attack actually shows the planes hitting the towers. And then you can hit response, and you see, like, you know, first responders heading to the ground 0. It's insane.

Jake Kemp:

It's right when you walk into. And, like, nothing else

Dan McDowell:

Go comfort the widow of a deceased

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Exactly. Friend

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Now marry that widow says insurance. So donate to a cause

Jake Kemp:

that turned

Dan McDowell:

out to be a scam.

Jake Kemp:

Start a war.

Dan McDowell:

There's a book for that.

Jake Kemp:

None of the the rest of the museum, like, has that vibe at all. Like, there's no other there's not, like, a civil war thing. There's not, like, a World War 2 thing.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. That's just that's It's

Jake Kemp:

it's all just like science. But when you walk in, there's a huge

Dan McDowell:

piece of the tower. Because we can?

Jake Kemp:

I guess. As Hey. I think that's what we're learning is that

Dan McDowell:

The the people who are selling that stuff contacted every museum in the in the nation? Yeah. Just kidding. I got a part of your mail today, I'd, or tomorrow or sometime, but somebody had told us, Joe, I think his name is. Joe Breslin.

Dan McDowell:

He went to a 911 Memorial in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania.

Jake Kemp:

Yes, sir. There's a

Dan McDowell:

place called that. And it's it's, right in front of a Cheesecake Factory. Baker. There's a Morton steakhouse. It's basically a a plaza.

Dan McDowell:

Mhmm. Yeah. So appreciate that. We we appreciate hearing about all the this all started with the 911 Memorial in Grapevine. And now we're just learning about

Jake Kemp:

I will also tell you

Dan McDowell:

hundreds of them.

Jake Kemp:

That, as I I mentioned before, my father-in-law was here this weekend. And we were driving back from somewhere. And there's a sign, actually, on Northwest Highway that says 911 Memorial this way. And he was kinda like, what's that about? I was like, oh, you wanna see it?

Dan McDowell:

Oh, and you could get some Tex Mex

Blake Jones:

while you're

Jake Kemp:

And we drove by it, and he was like, that's it? Uh-huh. Like, that's what everyone says.

Dan McDowell:

What was your weekend? Anything exciting? No.

Blake Jones:

Not really. Okay. Had exciting games in Argyle Friday night, and then doing some work for the east west shrine game in Frisco this week.

Jake Kemp:

Nice. I'm getting

Dan McDowell:

a lot of emails.

Jake Kemp:

Are made.

Blake Jones:

About the shrine game?

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. I must be on A mailing list. Yeah. Bracketdan@hotmail.com. Got on the mailing list for, k, for the east west shrine game.

Jake Kemp:

I got, one more thing. I got into, an altercation yesterday.

Dan McDowell:

Oh, course, you did. Yeah.

Blake Jones:

At flag football?

Jake Kemp:

Mhmm. I wanted Blake to come out so bad. I can't. What do you mean? Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Me? I haven't I haven't run.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. I'm not gonna get out there and run a 110 percent after having a 1st 6 months.

Jake Kemp:

I needed a body.

Blake Jones:

Oh. Yeah. I can't do that.

Jake Kemp:

We were down down, like, 4 or 5 guys. And I was like, dude, please come out. He's like,

Speaker 5:

fuck it.

Dan McDowell:

That's surprising. I thought you're the kind of guy that can just kinda Like

Jake Kemp:

a cheetah.

Dan McDowell:

Show up and mash. Yeah.

Blake Jones:

I can go at my own pace, but flag football is a different animal.

Jake Kemp:

All I needed you to do was block.

Dan McDowell:

So if you needed softball, you'd you'd have been there?

Blake Jones:

Yeah. Because, I mean, I can go at my own pace. Basketball, I can jog. Not flag football. Like, that's it's different.

Dan McDowell:

Did you get enough? Well, obviously, you did.

Jake Kemp:

I found a buddy. Yeah. And so, we're playing a team that was sort of an amalgamation of God Squad and one other team. So we didn't pray before, but stay tuned. I would say midway through the game, we had one sub.

Jake Kemp:

So I was playing offense. My buddy that I brought was playing defense. We're the old guys. And, there was just a an atrocious call. Like, the spot was 10 yards off because both of the refs were watching the AFC championship game on their phone.

Jake Kemp:

The game was at 2, and I'm like, okay. Riveting affair. I get it, which we'll get to later. But I'm like, you're paid to be out here. You have to at least have your eyes up.

Jake Kemp:

And they spotted the ball about 8 to 9 yards off. And I went on the field and, earmuffs, kids. But I was like, that fucking spot is fucking wrong. I was like, and you fucking know that. And, now did you

Dan McDowell:

feel like that's the best way to get it changed?

Jake Kemp:

Well, the here's the weird thing about it. The flag was on the ground. I'm like, that's where the ball goes. Mhmm. Like, if he if his flag it's still back there.

Jake Kemp:

It's on the ground.

Dan McDowell:

Just saying. Just going No.

Jake Kemp:

No. It's

Dan McDowell:

such a controversial It

Jake Kemp:

was bad. It was attitude.

Blake Jones:

Was it your guy again?

Jake Kemp:

It was one of guys.

Blake Jones:

Okay. That's why he was already set off.

Jake Kemp:

And, you know, they didn't change it or whatever. And the guy, one of the guys on their team was like, you know, you can't curse like that in front of my kid. Okay. And I look over, and there is one kid there who appears to be about 6 months old. My kid was there, and I was

Blake Jones:

like, my

Jake Kemp:

I was like, you're muffs again.

Dan McDowell:

A 6 month old kid?

Jake Kemp:

I was like, my fucking kid is here. I don't care. They don't know. So there's a 6 months old over there on their sideline, and, you know, whatever. It chills out.

Jake Kemp:

Actually, after the possession, I went up to the guy and I was like, dude, I'm sorry. Like, that was you know that was wrong, but what?

Dan McDowell:

To the ref, not to the guy who says don't swear in front of my kid. To the guy. The guy? Yeah. Don't swear in

Jake Kemp:

front of me. Really fired up about it. Okay. And I went up to him and I was like, I'm sorry. I lost my cool.

Jake Kemp:

I was like, you know

Dan McDowell:

Okay.

Jake Kemp:

My bad. That's typically how it goes with me. Right?

Dan McDowell:

Alright. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

I lose my cool, and then immediately, I'm like Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

But, Greg, sure, honey. I didn't mean to.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Yeah. So not

Dan McDowell:

to talk to me when I'm drinking.

Jake Kemp:

Exactly.

Dan McDowell:

And And

Jake Kemp:

he was like, no. It's all good and whatever. Whatever. Well, when we're leaving, the guy left alone. So I'm like, you don't have a kid here.

Dan McDowell:

You pointed that out to him?

Jake Kemp:

No. But, I mean, our group chat did. Like, we all walked to the parking lot at the same time together. And, he just gets in the car by himself, and immediately, somebody texted me and they were like, I don't think that guy had a kid there. What a lame move

Dan McDowell:

to feign having a child. To to be upset.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Anyways, we won. Were you destroying them too?

Dan McDowell:

No. Okay. So that's why you're actually worried about this spot of the ball. Because otherwise, you're winning by 20 No. This team is

Jake Kemp:

oh, and, also, this is the part I was gonna, wrap up with. Some of it's some of the god squad guys, like I said. We did the prayer after. And we got in a circle, and the quarterback for their team asked us to take a knee. So we took a knee and I was like, oh, Kaepernick.

Jake Kemp:

They didn't find that funny. So we take a knee and we do a prayer. And, the quarterback was like, you know, he did his normal bit. At the end of his bit is always Dear. £8.

Jake Kemp:

Baby Jesus. Name of his bid is always, and thank you so much, Lord, for, dying on the cross for our sins. Some of us need us, need it because of our language. Amen. And I go, that

Blake Jones:

was a shock.

Jake Kemp:

Some of us laughed. Some of us didn't. Unbelievable. Yeah. That's my Sunday.

Dan McDowell:

It was fun. Well, my weekend, I never really bring you guys anything, but I went to the Mavs game Saturday night. Hell, yeah. The Saroy suite? The Saroy suite.

Dan McDowell:

Cash Saroy, who does video work for the Mavs, I think part of his arrangement is he gets one sweet night a year. And he invites his very, very, very, very best friends in the world Mhmm. And me. And, yeah. It was a good time.

Dan McDowell:

Now we haven't driven down there in quite some time. Yeah. And, I should have gotten a scouting report on

Jake Kemp:

Construction.

Dan McDowell:

Massive amount of construction. Yeah. And if you drive that if you expect just to turn left at the Oak Lawn, it's it's just horrible. I would not have I would have gone, Harry Hynes had I known Yeah. Or even, like, Continental.

Dan McDowell:

What was in store for me. Yeah. It was just, just terrible. But, yeah, got the was very concerned that Luca wouldn't play because it was the day after the 73 point game. And I thought, well, back to back, certainly, Luca won't play.

Dan McDowell:

This would be an easy one to sit out. But he did, because Luca cares about each and every one of us that are going to the game. I was wondering too, do they determine his load management based on if they have a road game and a home game, does that play into it at all? Like, For sure. I wanna make sure I get the home game.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. For sure.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. It does. Because you would think almost they would rather play the road game because it's very few times you get to see Luca, but you get to see him at home all the time. But, you you know, your fans wanna see him. So

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. And you gotta factor in, like, the broadcast. You know? Like, neither one of those were national games, I don't think, but that's part of it as well.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. There's rules about that now. Right?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. You could be fined.

Blake Jones:

When did you leave?

Dan McDowell:

Probably about with 6 minutes left in the game, we started to head to the exits. And then it was a wait for the elevator, and then it was a you need an elevator at the suites, Blake. Yeah. And then the, the wife, kinda handed it to me when we got to the car about my brisk trip to the car because we had to run across the street because you're parked parked. Flights of stairs.

Dan McDowell:

We parked it. We we had Lexus parking,

Jake Kemp:

so it

Dan McDowell:

was across the street.

Jake Kemp:

I don't know if you tried your card.

Dan McDowell:

I was going to. Mine doesn't work. Oh,

Blake Jones:

okay. Mine does.

Dan McDowell:

I actually was going to. You shouldn't have said that. But I couldn't get around that part because of the construction too. So I just like, okay. Let's just go right in here.

Dan McDowell:

And, yes. I basically ran to the car, and she wasn't keeping up. And I'm running up. You know? I'm why do I go to the gym?

Dan McDowell:

That's for nights like that. For nights I need to run up 5 flights of stairs in a parking garage.

Jake Kemp:

Your game day.

Blake Jones:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

And then beating traffic. And then yeah. It was, but it was a lot of fun, predictably. Right? Going to a Mavs game in a suite.

Dan McDowell:

Mavs games in general.

Jake Kemp:

Do you have some chips? Or,

Dan McDowell:

I had some, popcorn, had some food. K. Maybe a little salad.

Jake Kemp:

Oh my god. And maybe This guy comes to your suite and has a salad.

Dan McDowell:

Maybe a little brew, bruv.

Jake Kemp:

Would you like

Dan McDowell:

Little suds. Knocking a couple suds back. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

And I know your wife did.

Dan McDowell:

I think I have oh, man. She was getting sloppy. So Woah. I I think I have secured the Saroy twins as guests for our Super Bowl stream. Let's Woah.

Dan McDowell:

Go. Both? Both. Wow. Generally, Cash will have a Super Bowl party, but they're going out of town and getting back the day before.

Dan McDowell:

And so they will be here they will be here on that couch next to Blake, and we've got some big ideas for the

Jake Kemp:

Super Bowl stream. We really do. That's gonna be fun.

Dan McDowell:

And we know who's going to be playing that. So should we lead into NFL talk? Was that a segment?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I think you already kinda yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Or is that is that possibly because we do wanna do some Luca talk today. And we're thinking that's kind of what this show basically is if you're just, finding out about us. We talk about football and Luca.

Jake Kemp:

We could do Luca first if you want. Oh. Again, I referenced the

Dan McDowell:

Change change music. Change the music.

Jake Kemp:

We don't do we have another one? We referenced, or I referenced having, my wife's dad in town. It's really cool. It's almost like, I think about it, like, if you have a friend who's never seen The Wire or has never seen The Sopranos and they start watching it, you're like, man, I wish I could be where you are right now. Like a virgin experience of one of these shows.

Jake Kemp:

Watching Luca with my father-in-law who doesn't watch a lot of basketball. He was just like, what is this guy on Friday night? You know? He's like, how big is he? You know, like, he's gone.

Jake Kemp:

He goes to a few Pelican games maybe every other year or something. But he was just like, what where is he from? Like, what is he doing? Like, does he shoot like this all the time? And I'm like, I don't you know?

Jake Kemp:

He's, in my opinion, the best basketball player in the world. He's pretty awesome. And tonight, he's gonna score 73 and be up 3 with 2 minutes left. Yeah. That's the thing.

Jake Kemp:

It's a but it's a weird experience because he's such a different player. Like, if you watch him with somebody who doesn't really watch basketball, they're like, what is he doing? You know, it's not like watching you know, I'd say Giannis is almost like a conventional basketball player. Embiid is like, oh, I've seen that. You know?

Jake Kemp:

But, Luca, I just don't know that there's ever been anybody like him. So when you watch him with, like, a a non basketball fan, they're very confused as to how he's pulling off what he's pulling off.

Blake Jones:

Because it seems to be something different every time down the floor.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Exactly. You

Blake Jones:

know, Giannis is just okay. He's bigger than everyone else. He goes down underneath. Same with all the post guys you're used to. But him hitting a 3 then a midrange and getting to the bucket and then assist, it's just

Jake Kemp:

And he's slow. So you're like, how is this working?

Dan McDowell:

So I noticed in the drop box something Friday, but then we forgot I don't know if we forgot to play it or if we were just, rolling. Just kicking such ass. Yeah. But that, I just saw a short clip of it. Did you guys wanna play the TNT guys?

Blake Jones:

I put it in there. No. Not really.

Dan McDowell:

Okay.

Blake Jones:

The one thing that I was gonna play out of it is just it was, stemming from our because go back to last Friday, we were still talking about Luca versus Tim McMahon.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Blake Jones:

And that was the big story that week. And then he's on TNT with Shaq and and Kenny and them and, you know, you expect, oh, they're just gonna have fun. And the first question they ask him is, so your behavior with the refs.

Dan McDowell:

Right. They're grilling him about that.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Blake Jones:

And it's just like, at what point is this embarrassing? You're on TNT. You just got All Star Game. First question, how are you gonna calm down? Like, I don't know.

Blake Jones:

At at what point does Lucas say, like, okay. Maybe I should.

Jake Kemp:

Well, I mean, I think the moment has passed. He should have a long time ago.

Blake Jones:

Why not? Yeah. I just

Dan McDowell:

But Does this that's probably a little more weight

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

When you go in that studio and, yeah, you expect them just to be kissing your ass. But it's, it's interesting though. Is that like, because it seemed like Luca under fire, and then he pulls out a 73 point game. Like, is there a Correlation at all? Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I mean, that's that's the point I was making last week is that I just don't know how you get him to chill out while not affecting the way that he plays the game because he plays angry.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. And did that like, without Tim McMann and Shaq, does he score 73 that night?

Jake Kemp:

Don't know. And it's the Hawks also.

Dan McDowell:

It's the Hawks and they yeah. They're the ones that that traded him. I like, so Twitter reaction that day. I do like the popular retweet.

Jake Kemp:

Please tell me this has something to do with Kobe.

Dan McDowell:

I'll get there. Okay. Woj. The retweet of Woge, June 21, 2018. Atlanta and Dallas agreed to a deal.

Dan McDowell:

They'll trade numbers 3 and 5 picks, sending Luca to Dallas and Trae Young to Atlanta. Dallas sends Atlanta a future first, which is often retweeted when the Mavs play the Hawks. And it is kinda funny if you kind of remember. Not a lot of people, but some people were. Did Atlanta win that trade?

Dan McDowell:

Especially after they got to the west, they got to the conference final eastern conference finals. With Cam?

Blake Jones:

Right? Cam Reddish?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. The fish? Yeah. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. But no. If you traded Luca, you didn't win the trade.

Jake Kemp:

No. No. Unless you got Michael George. You did not. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Jokic. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Maybe you would take the the Jokic over Luca. No. Well, let me, if if you want me just to roll through some, Twitter reactions,

Jake Kemp:

Magic Johnson, Always an astute sports observer.

Dan McDowell:

Nothing. It's just generic. Oh, I'm not. Casa Luca. Like, he's just it's just funny how he one of the reasons he left the Lakers, he said, was because he could now tweet about anyone.

Dan McDowell:

Because he had to just tweet about Lakers, you know, or else he could be charged with tampering. And now he can just say, Luca, wow.

Jake Kemp:

Pound for pound, right there with OJ.

Dan McDowell:

I hit the table and the dog thinks.

Jake Kemp:

Pound for pound right there with OJ for the best Twitter account out there.

Dan McDowell:

Different angles. But

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

One of the popular threads from Mavs fans, and I just this tires me out. It's the same thing of I always have to kind of the same thing we'll maybe touch on with the NFL. Like, is Lamar gonna get the Dak treatment? Well, yes. Number 1.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. He's absolutely going to be the the Lamar discourse is he can't win the big one. He's now 24, 25, 24. 4. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Blake Jones:

He's got one less loss than Dak.

Dan McDowell:

24 in in in playoff games.

Jake Kemp:

And I think Harbaugh is, like, 36.

Dan McDowell:

Oh, yeah? I mean, he has got to the

Jake Kemp:

Big game?

Dan McDowell:

The championship game. Yeah. But, yes, but but it Yeah. This is what it tires me out to see fans. Oh, Embiid scores 70 on 41 shots and 23 free free throws against the 2nd worst team in the league.

Dan McDowell:

And people say, wow, best offensive scorer ever. He's the next Wilt. Lucas, 73 points on 33 shots, 16 free throws, while missing his 2nd best player. What happened to defense? 70 is the new 50.

Dan McDowell:

The NBA sucks today, which is that's some of the discourse out there. But I I just think it's silly. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

I mean, there was Always. It happened there were 2 or 3 of them in a week. Right? Like, books scored 60. Cat scored 50 or 60.

Jake Kemp:

And, you know, I I tweeted something about, like, how this is annoying. That you can have a guy who can score 73 points and you're sweating out a close game at the end. Yeah. For sure. And people are like, oh, yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Well, other teams do this. I'm like, okay. Well, I seriously think the Mavericks have a bottom five roster outside of their top two players. Like, if you took the top two players on every team in the league and then took the next 8, the Mavericks are clearly clearly in the bottom.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. And a lot of that is because of what you had to give up to give get that second player.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. And a lot of it's what you had to give up to get the 2nd player that didn't work out Yeah. In KP. You know? I mean, that was a that's a massive expenditure of resources and money.

Jake Kemp:

So Brunson walking

Dan McDowell:

I'm like, dude. For nothing?

Jake Kemp:

I'm not, like, hating on Luca. I'm appreciating it. I'm standing up in my living room the whole time, like, excited, and people are like, why can't you just enjoy this? I'm like, because their team sucks. They're not a good team.

Jake Kemp:

Not a good team, folks.

Dan McDowell:

And, the Mike Lesley tweet says Luca with a career high 73 points on the 4th anniversary of Kobe's death. The difference between Luca's point total and Kobe's iconic 81 point game,

Jake Kemp:

8. I'm gonna kill myself. Not at halftime.

Dan McDowell:

Kobe's not at halftime.

Blake Jones:

3 minus 8, 65. Do I have anything for 65? No. 8 +73, 81. Didn't he score 81?

Dan McDowell:

Does anybody go off? Tweeted.

Jake Kemp:

Does anybody go off the day you raped that girl? Interesting. Maybe somebody who's playing the Nuggets.

Dan McDowell:

I believe the, Canadian junior hockey team was one celebrating that.

Jake Kemp:

Okay. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

That's as that's as far as as much as I know about that story is there was, like, a junior hockey team, and I think there's a sexual assault and

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

But Weren't

Blake Jones:

there 7 other people that died that day? Do we not care about them at all?

Jake Kemp:

Did they do anyone?

Dan McDowell:

Well, we kinda care about his daughter. Yeah. The others, we certainly don't care about that terrible pilot. I mean, gosh. He's the one that killed him.

Jake Kemp:

Kinda wrecked the chopper into the mountain range.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. The only other thing from that appearance was I was shocked that Luca is bigger than Charles Barkley.

Dan McDowell:

Yes. All the videos It looks like significantly.

Blake Jones:

In all the videos I see is Barkley's just manhandling everyone because nineties and Luke is bigger than he is.

Dan McDowell:

Well, he was the round mound of rebound. Yeah. He was, like, a big guy. You know?

Jake Kemp:

So the guy that I feel like I'm name dropping a lot today. But the guy that I grew up next to that played with OJ Yeah. They lived in Chattanooga, Tennessee. That's where his son played basketball and football. And he they knew Barkley.

Jake Kemp:

And he was like, dude, he's not a big he's like 64. 65. Like, they trained with him all the time and they were like, he's he's no bigger than you are, like, height wise. And in my mind, Barkley was, like, 610. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Big. Like, growing up

Dan McDowell:

I would've thought, like, 68.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Man, I don't think so.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. No. I mean, Luca towers over him, and he's much thicker throughout. Like, Luca's

Jake Kemp:

He's listed at 66, but I remember hearing, like, dude, he's 65. Like, he's smaller than both of us. Like, they worked out with him a lot.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Luca, 1st player ever to average a 50 point triple double over a 2 game span, which he did?

Jake Kemp:

Did you see Grant Williams' Instagram post? What's that? I think Grant Williams had 9. Yeah. He's, like, 82 points together.

Dan McDowell:

Was the picture of him holding a 73? Is that photoshopped? Shopped?

Jake Kemp:

No. I think they had him do that. Okay.

Blake Jones:

I don't want it to be photo shopped. We've gotten a lot of good memes out of that. I think

Jake Kemp:

they had him do it.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. Me to my parents when I bring home a science test.

Jake Kemp:

It's cool. It's pretty good.

Dan McDowell:

I think follow-up pointed out. He's a lot of things about it, but, you know, he raised his scoring average, an entire point. In one night? In one night. So after 36 or 38 games, that's, like, an impossible thing to do.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Especially if you already average 30:30

Jake Kemp:

a game. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

You know, all his percentages, raise significantly. But It's

Jake Kemp:

a wild ride, man, because they're not really very good.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. You actually got to see a pretty good Grant Williams. I don't know how much of the game you got to watch.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. I've I've watched a you know, half of the time I was there, I was watching the game.

Jake Kemp:

The Kings are better than they are. Yeah. Yeah. So that's a team you've fallen behind. And, yeah, we're just gonna be in play and watch with an all NBA player, 1st teamer for the rest of the year, which is a unique experience as I think I I told you guys whenever we were in our former job.

Jake Kemp:

I went through 30 years. There have been 2 all NBA players to miss the playoffs. And it was Steph Curry in his, sort of down hurt year, and they were in the plan. And it was Anthony Davis who immediately demanded a trade.

Blake Jones:

And watching him play, he needs, like, 2 weeks off.

Jake Kemp:

He definitely does.

Blake Jones:

So banged up.

Jake Kemp:

He's always gonna be banged up, though. He's always gonna be banged up because he just runs into people. Yeah. It's not even a matter of, like, he needs to be in better condition. No.

Jake Kemp:

It's that the way he plays, he just runs into people. And he's never gonna

Dan McDowell:

get an all star break off?

Jake Kemp:

No. He would have to turn it down. And he goes and plays in the international thing. Every opportunity he gets Right. For country pride.

Jake Kemp:

This is just kinda the experience.

Dan McDowell:

Well, Luke is good.

Blake Jones:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

And, he is the reason to go see them the Mavericks.

Jake Kemp:

That or somebody inviting you for free?

Dan McDowell:

Yes. In a suite. Yeah. That's very Yeah. Very key.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Alright. Let's do NFL in a minute. But first

Blake Jones:

The Dums of Dums of Dums of

Dan McDowell:

Wanna do an actual spot for live spots? Absolutely. Because we did say we're allowed to do live spots now. Yeah. We don't really have any.

Dan McDowell:

So it's an advertisement about advertising that you can contact us. Right? Bracket Dan in Hotmail, I suppose. But Blake? We're just trying

Jake Kemp:

to yeah. Contact info?

Blake Jones:

You can email us the dumbzone@gmail.com.

Jake Kemp:

There you go. Right there, folks.

Blake Jones:

Or do you

Blake Jones:

want one of those individually?

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Okay. We're opening that one up.

Jake Kemp:

Probably should've planned this out a little better.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. Thought we liked it. Not not a lot of people have that, but

Jake Kemp:

Listen. I'll come to your place of business and shoot myself in the balls with a pellet gun.

Dan McDowell:

But, okay. Well, that's interesting. But, and many have ever many people have reached out already, like, when we first launched this.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

We will be contacting you, we or somebody, but we're trying to figure that out. We're still in this middle period. And speaking of people that, reached out. So a lot of people that we used to advertise with at a, radio station reached out to us when we first left that radio station. Like, called to say, hey.

Dan McDowell:

Let us know when we can support you, or this or that. And I apologize now for not mentioning them all during this live spot about live spots. We will make flowers on you in the near future.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Okay? Yep. We but I wanted to

Jake Kemp:

with the rest.

Blake Jones:

With your consent.

Dan McDowell:

The message today is that we have 2 big advertisers that we're very close to that really went above and beyond to help us out. So those are the ones I'm just going to focus on today. So if and I talked to others on the day we left, but these are the 2 I have to mention in no particular order because they both are awesome. Eatsy's and Prosper Ford. Adam row, Adam Romo at Eatsy's and Chaz Gilmore at Prosper Ford.

Dan McDowell:

He also runs Grapevine Ford, but he built Prosper Ford. That's where I purchased my vehicle. The Grapevine Ford?

Jake Kemp:

Absolutely.

Dan McDowell:

That's where Shaq bought a vehicle for a family. That's right. Like, when he was running through town, they were texting me pictures of Shaq. He was, like, the really big one.

Jake Kemp:

And you may think I got a great deal because I knew Dan. I got a great deal because I was at Grapevine Ford.

Dan McDowell:

That's right, folks. But you should mention that you, that you know us.

Jake Kemp:

That would help.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. That'll help us. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

That would help.

Dan McDowell:

Adam too. Adam Romo is probably more publicly recognizable as his name. Not only he was on, you know, one of our streams, our football streams this year, but, he was also his name can be found in our court documents That that is true. As he actually testified on our behalf in court. And the only reason Chaz was not in court was because we correctly thought that our case was strong enough without asking Chaz to be there, but he absolutely would have been there.

Jake Kemp:

I would say of everyone who appeared in court, including everyone in the, forthcoming lawyer round table, our magistrate enjoyed Adam Romo's presence the most.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. He was, he was a big hit. Yeah. He's dynamic. But they're both awesome.

Dan McDowell:

They both really supported us, throughout this time and then just in the past and possibly in the future, but, we wanted to make flowers on them.

Jake Kemp:

You you kinda already went to the well on that one once. So Yeah. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

No. No good. No good for you, Jim.

Blake Jones:

We're learning.

Jake Kemp:

Right. Anyways, get a pellet.

Dan McDowell:

But I delivered it, like a stand up comedian would. Like, as if I had never done it before.

Jake Kemp:

Right. Right.

Dan McDowell:

And then but I forgot I was oh, I did it at the same crowd. I had to wait for the 10 o'clock show.

Jake Kemp:

Venues. Yeah. Both great dudes, and, we are open for business.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. So future. Yeah. If you, do see one of those guys, give him a big hug for us or maintain a, proper distance for us, whichever one you think.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. They you know,

Dan McDowell:

kinda read the room, feel like Yep. Where are you? You know, are you at the a funeral with 1 of them? Don't, you know, go real nuts over it, but just kinda whisper to them.

Jake Kemp:

But the main thing is go buy a car at Grapevine Ford and, Prosper Ford and, buy your food at Eatsy's.

Dan McDowell:

Yes. Go then drive over to Eatsy's.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. It's right there.

Dan McDowell:

And then order maybe, pot I'll bet you they got a Super Bowl menu up and flying pretty soon, if not already.

Jake Kemp:

We need to hit that up.

Dan McDowell:

We should hit them up for Super Bowl. Yeah. Adam, are you listening? I could save the toll, the, the call, the call charges. And now do we wanna mention here that, the the as the advertising is brought in, our current model is morphing as well a little bit.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. So Like, you're still you're a subscriber. You right now. Most people listening, you get 4 episodes a week, plus probably some bonus on a weekend. But, that's that that's not gonna change.

Jake Kemp:

That absolutely will not change. But as part of this shift in the model, we need to we need to be, like, free for a couple episodes a week. So you can still continue to listen the way you've been listening on the Patreon app, but we are gonna start putting 2 episodes a week up on Apple, Spotify, etcetera. All the places that you can find your podcast. It kinda seems like a jerk thing to say, but we have been putting out, like, 9 hours of content for $6.90 a month.

Jake Kemp:

Most patron podcasts put out 1 hour for $5. So I really, really, really hope you don't subscribe just based on the fact that 2 of these are gonna be free a week, but 2 of these are gonna be free a week. So whether you listen on the Patreon app or whether you listen wherever you get your podcast, I think is what they say.

Dan McDowell:

But we'll have them on the Patreon app too. Absolutely. So if you like the app

Jake Kemp:

one more will be unlocked.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. If you like the app Then you could keep just doing it that way. Your life won't change at all. But it would it wouldn't hurt if you just went to your if you'd like if you do Apple Podcasts and

Jake Kemp:

you just add Or Spotify. Yeah. That that that actually would help. Or, like,

Dan McDowell:

what's the one I got? Overcast? Yeah. Overcast. That's my one of choice.

Dan McDowell:

So if you'd, like, just added us on there and followed us there, that's It

Jake Kemp:

would be helpful.

Dan McDowell:

Like, it would help the advertisers would be like, hey. Cool.

Jake Kemp:

Look at these cool dudes.

Dan McDowell:

Look at the numbers.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

That's the like and subscribe where people

Jake Kemp:

I know. Hash that follow. Yeah. I I mean, I I guess the main thing is just, like, yeah, you're gonna be able to listen to basically half of what you've been paying for for free.

Dan McDowell:

How long is this live spot?

Blake Jones:

But I really ask if all of our live spots are gonna be 6 minutes long.

Dan McDowell:

But are you just too long?

Jake Kemp:

No. No. No. We're exploiting a business.

Blake Jones:

Alright. Let's cut it. Oh, let's restart. Start the music over.

Jake Kemp:

Whatever, dude. We're done. Okay. You're listening to the dumb zone. The dumb zone.

Jake Kemp:

The dumb zone. The dumb zone.

Blake Jones:

Don't want me.

Dan McDowell:

Is that one acceptable?

Blake Jones:

Yeah. I like that one. Alright.

Dan McDowell:

Well, it is time for us to slide into some football talk. Thanks, Blake. I'm going to save some stuff for later in the week, like, maybe tomorrow. K. But I will let you know that, my cowboy note this week is Micah's mom has entered the discourse.

Jake Kemp:

Not just the brother?

Dan McDowell:

Micah's mom is now on the scene. But like I said, I'm saving that.

Jake Kemp:

What it is?

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Don't go look for it, anyone. Mhmm. It's explosive. But we take our attention to other teams.

Jake Kemp:

Irv. James.

Dan McDowell:

And can we use the Chiefs and 40 niners and look at the Super Bowl logo color scheme and come up with a doesn't fit. Right?

Blake Jones:

I don't think it does.

Jake Kemp:

Damn. Sorry, Aaron. Or a a a asshole. Yeah. Remember Jimmy Kimmel?

Dan McDowell:

I was I was so sure that was real.

Blake Jones:

And then did you see the, grocery store TikTok going around? Mark that Beth. They already had, like, cookie cakes with the Ravens and, 40 niners logo on it.

Jake Kemp:

What did they know?

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. What? Like, at halftime, they're making them? Or because of the They

Blake Jones:

were already, like, out in distribution. Chiefs 49ers.

Dan McDowell:

No. Ravens. Ravens.

Blake Jones:

Because that was the conspiracy theory.

Dan McDowell:

That was the color.

Jake Kemp:

Okay. The

Dan McDowell:

color scheme.

Jake Kemp:

Color scheme. Okay. Got it. Yeah. So

Blake Jones:

I guess those are gonna be shipped off overseas or something.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I gotta Oh, that's right. Halftime. Cakes to Somalia.

Dan McDowell:

That really makes sense. They've the halftime, issue was the Detroit game. Yeah. Which game do you wanna start with?

Jake Kemp:

We we can go chronologically. I thought the the weirdest thing about what we saw from Baltimore yesterday was I mean, every single person that you hear talk about the Ravens is just they're a model organization. It doesn't matter if it's the GMs can change. The quarterback can change. The talent level around the quarterback can change.

Jake Kemp:

I thought that was, like, the most uncharacteristically Baltimore game I've ever seen. Like, they lost their cool so many times. And we're we're hearing from the sideline that Zei Flowers lacerated his hand on the bench after fumbling. It just felt like they're always a cool, calm, collected team, and they got frustrated. Bunch of personal fouls, fumbles, strip sack, whatever.

Jake Kemp:

It was just weird to see them implode. Like, I expect that from Dallas. Dallas just kinda does that, but it was weird to see that from Baltimore. And then from Patrick, I mean, I think he's the greatest football player who's ever touched the grass. And, statistically, his numbers yesterday don't look like, you know, some of the other games he's had, but I don't know.

Jake Kemp:

I just feel like he's in control all the time. And all year, we've been talking about like, hey. Did the Chiefs have it this year? Like, you know, speaking of sporting gas, like, their sporting gas is terrible. Whatever was happening with Kadarius Toney over the weekend, which we can talk about in a minute if you want.

Jake Kemp:

And he just he's just that good. It's Brady Belicheck. You know?

Blake Jones:

4 Super Bowls in 5 years, and he's been starting for 6? Yeah. That's stupid.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Yeah.

Blake Jones:

And the only reason he didn't get to the Super Bowl his 1st year is because Tom Brady beat him.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Like

Dan McDowell:

And then Tom Brady beat him in the Super Bowl. In the Super Bowl. But he loves him.

Jake Kemp:

But the Bucks. Yeah. So and and I know people probably again get hit tired of hearing me talk about this. We continue name drop Monday, but the fact that I've been, like, in the room while the greatest football player of all time is working out, I feel like it's something I should not stop talking about. Like, in the stuff that I've seen him do, it's it's not just random.

Jake Kemp:

Like, they practice that stuff. Like, the off platform stuff, the balance stuff. I've seen that guy go through workouts that I've never seen another football player do in my life. He's not that athletic. Well, the He's not he's not gonna test well.

Jake Kemp:

He's not that fast. He's not that quick.

Dan McDowell:

I thought one of the coolest plays was when he was sacked. Yeah. He got sat he was getting sacked, but somehow Got rid of the ball. With his left no. He was sacked in the end of on

Jake Kemp:

this one. That one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

The sack where his knees get bent down

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

But he's falling down with his left hand. I think he braced himself, then he spun. And I think Yeah. Somehow then he held on to the ball and it looked he might escape. I mean, he was just getting swarmed, but and then he still got sacked in the end.

Dan McDowell:

But it was like a an amazing athletic play to stay alive as long as he did.

Jake Kemp:

And then the 9 seconds in the pocket on the throat of Kelsey. Yeah. He's Gumby. And I'm telling you, like, I've I've watched this in person. That is not just like that doesn't just happen.

Jake Kemp:

Obviously, some of it is genetics, but, like, the way that they work out, it's very different.

Blake Jones:

This is a lame question, but could you feel, like, his energy? Like, that's Patrick Mahomes. Like, did he have an aura around him? Because there's some people year round that's like, oh my god. It's and I got that around CD Lamb.

Blake Jones:

I don't know. Just The

Jake Kemp:

the weird thing about it is when I first started going there, he was, like, a junior.

Blake Jones:

At tech?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Okay.

Jake Kemp:

And so, like, nobody really cared at all. Like, nobody knew who he I mean, I did, but, like, the suburban moms I was working out with didn't really have any idea. And then obviously, by about 3 or 4 years after that, yeah, maybe a little bit. But it's weird though because he's so unassuming. I would tell you this.

Jake Kemp:

Being, 10 feet away from Noah Cinder Guard, way bigger deal. Yeah. Because he looks like a god.

Blake Jones:

Right.

Jake Kemp:

Like, he he's huge, and he has, like, flowing blonde long hair and he punishes weights. Patrick's just kinda there standing on a balance beam.

Dan McDowell:

I love looking at that draft.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I think Imagine there some teams that don't love looking at that draft, but other teams?

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. I mean, so who did the Browns have at that time? This is 2017. Baker was after that. Right?

Dan McDowell:

Baker was because this is the Miles Garrett was Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Number 1 overall. 18.

Dan McDowell:

So the Browns are still on Manziel?

Jake Kemp:

No. No. They were journeymanning it. Trubisky. Yeah.

Blake Jones:

That's the big one.

Dan McDowell:

That's the big one because many of us said at the time, like, woah. What? Trubisky? That was where they traded up to get him.

Jake Kemp:

The Browns led Deshaun Kiser who went o and 15.

Dan McDowell:

So really, Trubisky was the only quarterback taken ahead of him.

Blake Jones:

Watson was around.

Dan McDowell:

Deshaun Watson was 12.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Okay.

Dan McDowell:

The the Chiefs got him at 10. Did they move up? Yes.

Blake Jones:

Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

So Which if you recall was controversial at the time because Alex Smith was extremely capable. They I I'm I'm pretty sure they were they were in the playoffs the year before, and that was a big deal. And and that's a story that, that my brothers told me before that the Saints really, really wanted him. They wanted to move up. But, like, Drew found out about it.

Jake Kemp:

It was like, yeah. Drew.

Dan McDowell:

Drew Brees. Yeah. Oh, really?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. It was like, absolutely not.

Dan McDowell:

So they didn't have that relationship that obviously Aaron Rodgers when you take a quarterback in the 1st round?

Blake Jones:

Yeah. And it's

Jake Kemp:

a little bit different if you trade up to 30 and you trade up to 10. Because the Saints, if you look, the Saints are picking 11th, and they took Marshawn Lattimore. And Patrick was taken at 10.

Blake Jones:

But Brees is probably why the Packers didn't tell Rodgers they were telling or they were taking love.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Until, like, the pick is in. That's when he had to pour himself some tequila as he said.

Dan McDowell:

They must have just thought that was a bad quarterback draft overall. Just the people. Right? The Browns? No.

Dan McDowell:

Just The If there's not General NFL

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

If you're not pick 1, 2, 3 Okay. Yeah. You're thinking it's a bad quarterback draft, and somehow Trubisky got 2. I don't think anyone else picks Trubisky at 2. No.

Dan McDowell:

Except somehow the bears thought that was the thing we need to.

Jake Kemp:

And McCaffrey's in that draft, so that's the rare time where you're gonna see it running back at the top.

Dan McDowell:

There's some great players. That was the Taco Charlton year.

Jake Kemp:

Mhmm. Jeez.

Dan McDowell:

And what really hurts there is that TJ Watt was taken 2 picks later.

Blake Jones:

And there were still a notion about big 12 quarterbacks at that time. I mean, there still is.

Jake Kemp:

There still is. Yeah. Yeah. And and for me, like, it was just that I'd seen almost his entire college career. Like, my wife went there.

Jake Kemp:

Bunch of my friends went there. And we I would watch him every week, and I'm like, this guy is carrying this team to 6 wins with Did

Dan McDowell:

you think he'd be great?

Jake Kemp:

Yes. Okay. We have audio of that that we can't play. Okay.

Dan McDowell:

Because I know we were all saying Lamar Jackson, Cowboys should take a chance on him.

Jake Kemp:

For sure.

Dan McDowell:

He fell so far.

Jake Kemp:

For sure. But, dude, I mean, in

Dan McDowell:

college weren't gonna move up to 10 to get No. No way. Somewhere near.

Jake Kemp:

But in college, like, the he was hurt the whole time because his team sucked. He had to score 60 points a game to stay competitive. He was playing on, you know, one leg and one shoulder the whole time, and he would still go out and get them competitive. And it was awesome.

Blake Jones:

That Baker game.

Jake Kemp:

Dude, that is I've said this before, that is my favorite football game of all time. I remember where I was. I remember everything about it. The Baker Patrick game is unbelievable. I think it was, like, 83 to 72.

Jake Kemp:

Let me look it up. And from what I remember of

Blake Jones:

the game, it's like, oh, you would score in 5 plays because they were just that much better than tech, and then Mahomes would just have to be Superman. They'd score on 9 or 10. He'd grind his ass all the way down there.

Jake Kemp:

And that's when we had the, 6659, Dan. Sorry. I overshot it a little bit. And that's when we excited. We had the, f you, Baker.

Jake Kemp:

Like, every time he came on the field, f you, Baker. It's great. So much fun.

Dan McDowell:

So the Kadarius Tony thing was, apparently, he had a a baby. Good for him. Friday night, Saturday night, and the chief said he was out because of an injury. And, he went off on Instagram saying that they're lying about his injury.

Jake Kemp:

Can I read you the stat real quick? Yeah. That night, Patrick was 52 for 88. 88? For 734 yards.

Blake Jones:

Jeez. Eighty eight passes.

Jake Kemp:

Baker, 27 of 36 for 545 and 7 touchdowns.

Dan McDowell:

And he can't get player of the game. Unbelievable. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Just a note that just, I guess, more of you know, there can be distractions, but they either distract you or they don't. Yeah. I mean And so it's it's it's another at the end, you might point back to it and say, oh my gosh. That really was a problem. But then if you win, it's a, well, we just handle our things.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Adversity. I mean, you could probably say the same thing about the Swifty thing. Right? Yeah. For sure.

Jake Kemp:

Like, I'm in

Dan McDowell:

my Had they lost?

Jake Kemp:

In my mind, when Patrick Queen is, like, on Kelsey, I'm like, is he saying something about Taylor Swift?

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Well, it be to me, it's hard to trash talk somebody because you're dating Taylor Swift.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. But, you know, we've heard from guys

Dan McDowell:

Like, oh.

Jake Kemp:

Throughout the year that are, like, that are ripping me.

Dan McDowell:

Say again? Keep ripping me.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Yes. I'm I'm nailing, like, the most popular, chick in the world. Nailing? I'm assuming they're nailing.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I don't I don't know that I've done anything that would qualify as nailing in a long time. Mhmm. But I'm not Travis Kelce. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Well, because you make love. That's right.

Jake Kemp:

I was I was interested in what Blake was gonna finish up there. I would

Blake Jones:

imagine he's got a little more tea and approaches it differently than you do, but I don't

Jake Kemp:

know. You've never seen me?

Blake Jones:

That I have.

Dan McDowell:

Not yet. What?

Blake Jones:

Not yet.

Jake Kemp:

That's why we go to France.

Dan McDowell:

20 k subs. Kelsey now has the record for postseason receptions. He got it in 21 games. Who did he pass? He passed Jerry Rice who had it in 29 games.

Jake Kemp:

Just think so.

Dan McDowell:

I know. If only they would have thrown that ball around. But they didn't. They had many other options. I

Blake Jones:

mean, how many catches did Tim Rathman have? So many.

Dan McDowell:

Alright. So Zay Flowers. The taunting was, exceptionally egregious. Right?

Jake Kemp:

You have to That's a bad that's a bad bit, and you gotta as a guy who yelled a couple f bombs in a wreck game yesterday, even I know.

Dan McDowell:

I mean, he kinda pushed him down.

Jake Kemp:

That you can't they're gonna call that

Dan McDowell:

every time. Ball at him, hovered over him, you know, flexing. Like, that's just dumb. Yeah.

Blake Jones:

I did the the defender was trying to hold him down. I'm not defending him. I'm just saying I don't think he was just taunting the catch.

Dan McDowell:

I think the guy had his angle. So kinda second guy?

Blake Jones:

Well, I think that's why I pushed him.

Jake Kemp:

Like Yeah. That's definitely why I pushed him.

Blake Jones:

Okay.

Jake Kemp:

But still

Blake Jones:

You're right. Still.

Dan McDowell:

You know? And some were saying that Kelsey keeps taunting. Well, there's difference between doing it at the person and then just kinda

Blake Jones:

I can't stand over him.

Dan McDowell:

Celebrating. Yeah. It was just stupid. Then you might even think that where he got the fumble at the goal line.

Jake Kemp:

That's a Belichick no no. Right.

Dan McDowell:

We've talked about that many times. You don't reach for the goal line. Not a I I don't think he needed to. I don't

Jake Kemp:

think he did. That's a great point. I don't think he needed to either. I would say the only thing about reaching is do it at the pylon.

Dan McDowell:

Because then you could just touch the pylon.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. But he was, like, 6, 7 yards inside the pylon. Yeah. And at that point, you're like, dude, there's too much traffic here. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

You're not gonna be able to get away with that. That was a bad bit. And then, yeah, the fact that he then went and cut his hand open on a bench.

Dan McDowell:

Lamar is pretty awesome when he threw the pass to himself. He got 13 yards. I don't I don't

Jake Kemp:

know that I've ever seen that work out like that before.

Dan McDowell:

The tip pass, he caught it, and then he actually gained a bunch of yards. Yeah. That was cool. And if not, they're right there in easy scoring position.

Jake Kemp:

Man, if nothing else from yesterday before we go to the other game, like, I just feel it for that guy. Lamar? Yeah. I really want him to get one.

Dan McDowell:

So when you look at his

Jake Kemp:

savvy, but for for Lamar.

Dan McDowell:

Take a look at his playoff losses.

Jake Kemp:

He's been bad.

Dan McDowell:

First one was against the chargers in 2018. Was that Philip Rivers? 23 to 17, they lost. He had a 194 yards passing, 2 touchdowns, 1 pick, and only 54 yards rushing. The next year, they lost 28 to 12 to Tennessee.

Dan McDowell:

365 yards passing, 143 yards rushing. Damn. That might be Somehow they only scored 12.

Jake Kemp:

That might be the one where he was good.

Dan McDowell:

I mean, you you do wonder 4th downs. You know, I mean, Dak puts up big numbers in a game they were just getting drilled in. So I I don't know. But, but you do look at the overall point total, 17, 12. The next loss he had, they lost, at Buffalo 17 to 3.

Dan McDowell:

That one I remember. So there he is. He's averaging 10 points a game in the playoffs. Offs. 162 yards passing, 34 yards rushing.

Dan McDowell:

Lost and then lost yesterday. Yeah. That's the the 4th. They lost, last year, but that was he wasn't playing if you recall.

Jake Kemp:

That pick at the end, man, and him slamming his helmet, like, I just felt that as, like, oh, dude.

Dan McDowell:

Definite pass interference. Right? A 100%. Also, definitely not throw 3

Jake Kemp:

into 3 defenders. Yeah. But yeah. The I mean, the receiver got, like, hip checked.

Dan McDowell:

And then, of course, Gene Steritor. I don't know why he's on there just to say the NFL, officials are great, and that's a good no one right. That's a good no call. Like, why don't we just record that and we'll use it to drop? Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

What if we just pay you a one time fee to say that? We don't have to drag you in here every every week.

Jake Kemp:

You guys wanna hear something funny? Travis Kelsey makes about the same as Michael Gallup. Oh, man. Ouch. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

I just I just remember reading, like, before the season started. Like, I think I was doing, like, a Dalton Schultz research project or something, and it's like, how is it possible that we're getting away with paying the best tight end in football who ostensibly is the best receiver in football? Like, 12 or $13,000,000 a year. But Michael Gallup makes the exact same thing. And so does, like, every other spare second or third wide receiver.

Jake Kemp:

Travis Kelce should make 25 a year.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. So the tight end market hasn't caught up. Kittle and all those guys There

Dan McDowell:

has to be enough tight ends

Jake Kemp:

I know. That's a thing. That are good.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Like, that good. There's, like, there's there's,

Jake Kemp:

like, 5. 3 or 5. Yeah. Mark Andrews, Kittle, Kelsey.

Dan McDowell:

I heard someone else mentioned this, so I wish I thought of it first, but haven't mentioned, this part of it. The thought that what if they win the Super Bowl and Kelsey proposes to It's not crazy. To Taylor Swift on the field.

Blake Jones:

No way.

Dan McDowell:

I feel like that's something that he wouldn't just spring on her.

Jake Kemp:

Well, I mean, I've already seen reports that are, like, they're getting engaged this off season. She was on the field last night. She was talking to Romo.

Blake Jones:

That was weird.

Jake Kemp:

That was super weird.

Dan McDowell:

The whole thing is weird. Okay. So So

Blake Jones:

she's gonna be at every game now?

Dan McDowell:

Well, now we're looking at the schedule that she could fly back from Japan or something. Because, yeah, that was the the faraway look for a month ago. They were like, oh, no. She's on a European tour. Not European.

Dan McDowell:

She's

Jake Kemp:

South American. Yeah.

Blake Jones:

They're the 3 seed.

Dan McDowell:

South American?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Wasn't she, like, in, like, Venezuela or something?

Dan McDowell:

No. I think it's, like, Japan.

Jake Kemp:

No. I'm saying before. Like, when she missed, like, 3 or 4 games

Dan McDowell:

No. No. No. But they were looking ahead to say, okay. If they are in the Super Bowl, she won't be able to be there because her tour is in Japan.

Dan McDowell:

And, yeah, now it's like, well, okay. But if she she gets off the stage, hops a private flight right away, that's a 13 hour flight, she'll get there in time They kill me. For the game. She's certainly gonna be there. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Although, what kind of jet lag are you getting there? I guess she still gotta be there. She

Jake Kemp:

loves her private jets.

Dan McDowell:

The, Do

Jake Kemp:

I got that?

Dan McDowell:

No. Well, I don't I'm not familiar with this. She

Jake Kemp:

is not the favorite child of the climate activists. Yeah. She's, like, the most prolific private jet user in the world, which I know you respect.

Dan McDowell:

I'm really pro yeah. I'm really pro climate. But if I had the, the means For a PJ. I might have to get one. You talk about Baltimore's mistakes, though.

Dan McDowell:

How do they have 12 men on the field to start the final drive Really weird. As Kansas City starts their final drive.

Jake Kemp:

Really weird. They they look disorganized. They got away from the run. And then the

Dan McDowell:

so now it's 1st and 5. And you're like, okay. We're just gonna take it offside so this the clock doesn't start, and it can be a 1st and 10. Let's do that. That guy just blew up a line, like, just

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Mashed him and there's a 15 yard penalty instead.

Jake Kemp:

Disappointing. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Like, just

Jake Kemp:

roughness. And that that wasn't Periodic. Yeah. The they had multiple on the day.

Blake Jones:

I heard that they wanted to get a personal foul on purpose because you can decline in offsides. So rather than do this whole song and dance

Jake Kemp:

Interest. That is not worth 10 yards, though.

Blake Jones:

Blow them up and get a 1st and 10. That is not worth I don't know the validity of that. That's just what I read.

Dan McDowell:

That's interesting. Can you keep going off sides in perpetuity? Or is there some rule about you have to accept one thing?

Jake Kemp:

Mentioned before. But yeah.

Blake Jones:

Belichick's done that before.

Jake Kemp:

I think Like, he just

Dan McDowell:

keeps doing

Jake Kemp:

it? Yeah.

Blake Jones:

The well, the Jets There's

Dan McDowell:

no way out of that?

Blake Jones:

I mean, well, this was the delay of game.

Jake Kemp:

I think it was a delay of game. Yeah.

Blake Jones:

Belichick was trying to take a delay of game to get his punter more yardage. And they kept declining it? Jets. The Jets and Adam Gase kept declining it, so he kept doing it. And he ran, like, 2 minutes off the clock.

Jake Kemp:

You guys wanna hear another flag football story?

Blake Jones:

Sure.

Jake Kemp:

Yesterday at the end of the game, our conversion didn't matter. It was, like, 2621. It was, like, well, if they score, they're gonna win either way. I mean, it's 25, 21 maybe. So we took a delay a game, just to, like, kill the clock.

Jake Kemp:

And I was standing over. I'd come out of the game at this point. I'm over with the ref, and one of the, guys on the other team's dad was there. And, one of their guys started yelling jokingly, cool dude. He's like, can we assess that on the ensuing possession?

Jake Kemp:

Okay.

Dan McDowell:

Which you can't.

Blake Jones:

No. But And

Jake Kemp:

they're asking no. That's not how that works. And this guy's dad goes, actually, they can't. And I go, no. They definitely can't.

Jake Kemp:

And he goes, I played flag football for 30 years. Okay. And I said, I've been playing for 20.

Dan McDowell:

Okay.

Jake Kemp:

And he said, jeez, you're old as shit.

Dan McDowell:

That's funny.

Jake Kemp:

I was like, thanks, man.

Dan McDowell:

But you look good.

Jake Kemp:

But as far as, like, ensuing possession That's funny. What what can we decline and accept? But, no, overall, I just thought it was a it was a weird day for Baltimore. I hate it for Lamar.

Dan McDowell:

And then Mahomes with that the final completion was

Jake Kemp:

just Just the

Dan McDowell:

just ballsy.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. The best to do it. Alright. Before we move on to the other game, though Other game? Did you hear Andy Reid at the, podium with Jim Nantz?

Dan McDowell:

Here we go.

Jake Kemp:

That defense, man. They were dirty tough today.

Dan McDowell:

I look forward to seeing you in Las Vegas. Congratulations, Andy.

Jake Kemp:

Jim, I appreciate you. Thank you. Nobody better. Thank you, pal. I appreciate you.

Jake Kemp:

Oh, appreciate you, pal. Nobody better. Nobody

Dan McDowell:

better. Nobody better

Jake Kemp:

than that. Except for everyone else.

Dan McDowell:

So, obviously, they won the Lamar Hunt trophy, and I got to thinking, what is the trophy that the NFC gives out? What is the trophy for the NFC? Jake versus Blake.

Jake Kemp:

I'm gonna go no.

Dan McDowell:

See, Lombardi's a big boy. Lombardi is not the answer. Yeah. It's gotta be somebody that's well known. I'm gonna guess that.

Jake Kemp:

Don't you have the answer? Sure.

Dan McDowell:

I'm just trying to fill time here while you guys are

Jake Kemp:

I'm going to go with is it Mara? Is it Mara Mara related?

Dan McDowell:

The Wellington Mara trophy. Final answer? Yes. Your guess.

Blake Jones:

I'm gonna go off the board and say that it doesn't have a name.

Blake Jones:

The

Dan McDowell:

George Halas Trophy. God. Dang it. The George Halas Trophy.

Jake Kemp:

So right there in front of us.

Dan McDowell:

Wellington, Mara. I don't know. I mean,

Jake Kemp:

they've owned the team forever. They're in New York. That was a good guess.

Blake Jones:

That was good product value.

Dan McDowell:

Hey. Thanks, guys. Now Mhmm. The Dan Campbell Bowl.

Blake Jones:

Damn. That was a layup, wasn't it?

Jake Kemp:

We should Yeah. If I didn't

Blake Jones:

Dang.

Jake Kemp:

If I didn't wanna hold the show up more, I would've probably been able to scan through the entire. It's definitely not the David Tepper trophy. Not yet. Not yet.

Dan McDowell:

At, halftime, you had to be like, woah. They can do this.

Blake Jones:

I thought of you. Plus 1425, man.

Dan McDowell:

What's that? Your odds when you tell the Lions to win the Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

I think I'm down to Stefanski. Oh. Coach of the year.

Jake Kemp:

That is not a place you wanna be.

Dan McDowell:

No. He's he did a hell of a job. He had

Jake Kemp:

5 He did.

Dan McDowell:

Quarterbacks. He did. He did.

Blake Jones:

Now you got the angry OC. Ken Dorsey.

Dan McDowell:

So where do we start? Do we start with the meet? Dan Campbell being criticized? For the 4th downs? Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

For the aggressiveness? Yeah. Probably.

Jake Kemp:

It's great when it works out. But yeah.

Blake Jones:

I mean, if if Reynolds catches it

Jake Kemp:

There was and, you know, it wasn't even a bad throw.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. Reynolds had 2 bad catches or 2 bad drops.

Jake Kemp:

4th and 3 at the 30, though. Like, what are you gonna do?

Dan McDowell:

Leading, but see, the question is because in the first half, they did kick a field goal to go up 3 scores. Yeah. So you're up was what? Up by 14. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Let's let's kick this field goal. That's, not characteristic of what Dan Campbell would usually do on a 4th and 2 or 3. They led the NFL this year on going for it when, 2 or 3 yards to go. In fact, over the last 2 seasons, they had they went for it 23 times, an NFL high with 2 or 3 yards to go. They converted that 70% of the time.

Dan McDowell:

So this takes out the whole Two point conversion thing? 55% or whatever. They do it 70%. So now you're going on a that's certainly a shorter, smaller sample size than the entire NFL, but you are pretty confident that you can hit these plays.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Actually, from from 47, it's, like, not that different.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. That's the second or the last one.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Yes.

Dan McDowell:

But the first one they gave up Yeah. Yeah. Was at the 28. And the question is, hey. You had a chance to go up 3 scores again, and you didn't.

Dan McDowell:

We thought that's how you were playing here. That's why you could say the first instance of you not being Dan Campbell aggressive was logical because you went up 3 scores. So you could say that again. Of course, if that catch is made, like you said, that's it's it was a great pass. If that catch is made, the drive continues, they win the game, then you are crediting Dan Campbell for his aggressive nature for getting them to the Super Bowl.

Dan McDowell:

Now some are saying it is Dan Campbell's overaggressive nature is the reason they didn't get to the Super Bowl.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Legitimately, you can actually look and say it was execution.

Jake Kemp:

Of course.

Dan McDowell:

Because sometimes, you know, we'll make fun of Dion for throwing players on the bus or what coaching staff didn't do anything wrong here. It kinda seems like that's actually the way it is.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I mean, when you make those decisions, though, you have to factor in the fact that execution is part of it. You're also not expecting to immediately give up a touchdown and then have Jamere Gibbs fumble. And completely turn the game around, but you do have

Dan McDowell:

to factor that in. Let me, point out that fumble too and the drop pass because I did get, predictably

Jake Kemp:

A lot of momentum.

Dan McDowell:

I got a lot of moment. Hey. Momentum. See? Momentum.

Dan McDowell:

It's real. Okay. There are out of every 10 games where there is a big momentum thing, maybe a couple of them, maybe 3, maybe 4. It might even be 5. We'll go, oh, look.

Dan McDowell:

That team then did win. But just about an equal number, if not more, will they that team that started the game momentum, they came up short. They didn't end up winning.

Jake Kemp:

So that's actually we got a lot of email about this last week on the concept of the term that I was looking for, which is survivor bias. I think can't remember we were talking about seatbelts or helmets or what, but it's that yeah. I mean, all the people who it didn't work out for dead. So, like, everyone's like, I didn't wear a seat belt. I don't wear a helmet.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I'm fine. I'm like, well, yeah. But so that's the thing. It's like, momentum people are almost like hypochondriacs.

Jake Kemp:

Hypochondriacs where they're like, the only time it sticks out to them is the time when it validates the way that they're presenting it. Yeah. Where in reality, it's like, you don't even think about the other I would say it's way less than 5 out of 10. I would say it's about 1 out of 10 that it actually some sort of change of event. I will so the But

Dan McDowell:

momentum didn't make, Gibbs run the wrong way to get the handoff and then have him hit

Jake Kemp:

in the

Dan McDowell:

wrong hand. Well, why didn't make him loop drop that pass. Why didn't have the Ravens win with the big crowd behind them.

Jake Kemp:

Exactly. Why exactly. Why didn't the the momentum carry Detroit to convert more 4th downs when they were up? Or even

Dan McDowell:

because they have momentum. That first half.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. They did. I thought Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

But then San Francisco started getting the momentum, and I just knew it. I mean, I know it when I see it.

Jake Kemp:

It's so stupid. I hate it.

Blake Jones:

I hate it. You wanna hear Campbell talk about it? Sure. Obviously, first question in the postgame was, say, you had 2 failed fort downs, then he gives his thoughts.

Speaker 5:

Yeah. That just felt really good about us converting and, getting our momentum and and not letting them play long ball. You know, they were bleeding the clock out. That's what they do. And I wanted to get the upper hand back, you know?

Speaker 5:

And it's easy hindsight and I get it, you know. I get that. But I don't regret those decisions, and that's hard. You know? It's hard because, you know, they didn't we didn't come through.

Speaker 5:

We wasn't able to to work out, but I just I don't. I don't. And I understand the scrutiny I would get. That's part of the gig, man. But, you know, we just this didn't work out.

Jake Kemp:

I love him so much. You know? Like, that's how I wanna be talked to. It's like, hey. I get it.

Jake Kemp:

It didn't work out, but and that's on me. Like, I you just don't hear I don't wanna say McCarthy. Like, it's not all about McCarthy, but you just don't hear most NFL coaches, frankly, speak in those ways of and and to be honest with you, as, like, you know, all of us played sports at some point or another, that's the type of person I wanna play for. That's like, just go do it. I believe in you.

Jake Kemp:

I'm not gonna run a foreign guy out here. And then when it when it doesn't work out, you you acknowledge that, like, hey. I get it. Hindsight, that's the way you're gonna analyze this, but I don't know. I I would run through a GD wall for that guy.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. And I've heard a lot of people say that, you know, 4th down conversions is that's what's got him there. That's you're missing the point. And he he said it in that clip. He believed in his guys enough to go for it, and that's the point is because I heard that I heard that a lot.

Blake Jones:

Right? Oh, ride the horse that got you there. Go for it on 4th down. That's Campbell just believes in you enough as a player to put his trust in you, and that's what got them there is this relationship.

Jake Kemp:

No. That's a good that's a good way to state it because to me, that's that and I said this to our our friend, Matt, last week. I think that's the coolest part about the fact that it's Dan Campbell who's the one who's leading this rev, revolution, but you know what I mean. That he's like a big badass, and he's like, I'm gonna be the guy who goes full nerd because it's not nerdy. It's just I believe that more football plays executed by football players will gain more yards.

Jake Kemp:

That's all it is. And he's not afraid to be because the reason that most people don't do this in the NFL is because they're they're worried about being bad unconventionally. You know, that's what was so unique to me about, like, Chip Kelly is he was like, f it. I don't care. I'm a try this.

Jake Kemp:

If it doesn't work out, I don't care. Most football coaches most coaches in general are they're scared. They're not just scared of being bad. They're scared of being bad unconventionally because that's way more criticizable than just being bad. And Dan Campbell just doesn't seem to care, and I love that.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. They changed the way they do things or believe in things because they're afraid of getting fired.

Jake Kemp:

Exactly.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

That's what most people do. Most people wanna color in in the lines. And if they go 8 and 8, doing it the normal way, then, whatever. Just didn't work out.

Dan McDowell:

Well, because they're bosses there. Of course. That's not convention. They they're not used to that, and Of course. Risk aversion, and yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Well, you you've you made the right choice even when they didn't. Right.

Blake Jones:

I did wanna say the so right before half, they kicked to go up 3 scores. And I think that's the point that everyone's pointing to is it was the same exact situation in the second half. But I will say that these, again, like we talked about last week, these are not decisions made in a vacuum. If you when you are kicking with 12 seconds left in the half, that removes the field position aspect of the whole game.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Blake Jones:

So if you go for it and don't get it, you get no points and then San Francisco just runs out the clock and we reset things.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah.

Blake Jones:

That's a popular reason why people do go for it on the goal line.

Dan McDowell:

That's a good point.

Blake Jones:

So I don't think those two situations are comparable. Now although it was from a little bit further back, but San Francisco is trying to crawl their way back in. Dan Campbell said, you know, we were trying to play against San Francisco there and keep the ball out of their hands, get some of our mojo back, and you play the field position position game. I I think those two situations were very different. Now the other criticized, point

Jake Kemp:

is something that probably wouldn't matter

Dan McDowell:

matter in the end, but it was at the very end. I think it mattered. When they ran it on 3rd and goal and had to use a timeout. Because you okay. So the point there is you're down 10.

Dan McDowell:

You need a touchdown and a field goal. You'd like to get the touchdown, but you can also just kick that field goal and keep yourself more time. You know? So some some might even say, boy, once I get to the, you know, inside the 20, let's kick a field goal, like, now. Now if there's enough time, you might do that.

Dan McDowell:

Like, what, 3 minutes or so? Maybe you'll do that and hope your defense can get a stop. You know, if you have your 3 timeouts

Blake Jones:

Which is what they were around, I think.

Jake Kemp:

When the drive started or when they got inside the

Blake Jones:

field? Approaching

Jake Kemp:

They got the ball back with 3 minutes left.

Blake Jones:

Okay.

Blake Jones:

Of

Dan McDowell:

course, if you do that and you miss the field goal, now you're really short.

Jake Kemp:

You're the game's over.

Dan McDowell:

So you wanna get the tougher one first, I guess. But, also, sometimes a Hail Mary is a better chance than an onside kick because nobody gets an onside kick anymore, it doesn't seem. I hate it. Just Which

Blake Jones:

is why we want the 4th and 15 rule.

Jake Kemp:

They gotta do something, man. Onside kicks are an exciting football play. Figure something out.

Dan McDowell:

Well, how do they make it so we can't get them anymore? Because you have to have equal number on each side of the kicker.

Jake Kemp:

What's the exact rule, Blake?

Dan McDowell:

Like, you used to be able to load up one side?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I think that's it. Yeah.

Blake Jones:

Do more of that. But I think teams have just gotten better about how to field it.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Blake Jones:

Because it used to just be everyone go for the ball, but then

Jake Kemp:

And he topped that thing nice too. Yeah. Like, it I thought, like, they might have a shot here.

Blake Jones:

But now everyone does the smart thing in blocks and just have one guy receive. I mean, I it's just innovation.

Dan McDowell:

So my question though is alright. Obviously, going forward on 4th down is a Dan Campbell call. When you are running the ball inside, you know, the at the end of the game there, running it on 3rd down, is that the can do no wrong Ben Johnson, who's the offensive coordinator who's probably gonna go get the Washington job? That's what everybody's saying. Like, he's the brilliant genius behind Dan Campbell.

Dan McDowell:

Really, the reason Dan Campbell can do all these things because of the great Ben Johnson. Is he the one calling that play? Is that where Dan Campbell is he being criticized for not being the CEO coach saying, hey. Woah. Woah.

Dan McDowell:

And is there time to say, hey. Woah. Woah. No. In that, you know, you're calling a play.

Dan McDowell:

Is there a chance for him to pull that back?

Jake Kemp:

No. There's not. Okay. I mean, that

Dan McDowell:

So that's not a Dan Campbell call, really?

Jake Kemp:

I don't think it is. I mean, there's a scant amount of time to make those those sorts of play calls, and and I don't think if you have, like, a real offensive coordinator, which they do, I don't think your head coach overriding that, calling something in. What are you gonna do? You're gonna call another time out? I mean, at that point, it's like he's calling in the play.

Jake Kemp:

That's that's what it's gonna be. And, look, none of us have been on the sidelines of an NFL gamer on headset. But Yeah. I'm curious. Someone who has, and I'm

Dan McDowell:

pretty sure would you pay for a tape of that? That'd be pretty sweet. A tape of all the headset chatter.

Jake Kemp:

I would pay 6.90? It's like an SAP thing where you just, like, hit it on your I mean, I would pay untold amounts of money. Because, you know, when I first, like, got interested in this really was when my brother was in the XFL. Because they were like, this is something we can sell, and it was awesome. Like, listening to, like, Norm Chow Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Like, yell at Josh Johnson.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. So they actually did that.

Blake Jones:

Oh, yeah. You could hear the play call.

Jake Kemp:

You could hear the play call every time.

Blake Jones:

It's really cool.

Jake Kemp:

And, like, my brother's in the booth, like, with the headset on.

Dan McDowell:

For Fanity and

Jake Kemp:

they would dump you know, they would it was delayed.

Dan McDowell:

Okay.

Jake Kemp:

So we dump out of that, but you could definitely racial. Yeah. You could definitely hear, like, frustration Yeah. And anger. You know, it was great.

Jake Kemp:

Because that's all that is. It's a bunch of dudes who have 2 lips at Copenhagen, 6 Red Bulls or Diet Cokes, and, they're just screaming at each other.

Dan McDowell:

Their life is on the line.

Jake Kemp:

4 hours like their life is on the line. Exactly. It's great. Real men. You know?

Dan McDowell:

What are your thoughts on Purdey?

Jake Kemp:

I think he sucks, but he played a great game in the Q4 anyways. I don't think he's any good.

Dan McDowell:

Like, who knew he could run?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I mean, I did know

Dan McDowell:

an opportune times.

Jake Kemp:

Definitely got out of the pocket nicely a couple times yesterday.

Dan McDowell:

He got lucky on that. Could have been an interception, went off the face mask. I caught it.

Jake Kemp:

That I caught. Yeah. But I don't like him, and I don't think he's very good. But that's mainly just because he's advanced, deeper into the playoffs than my quarterback.

Blake Jones:

You don't like him as as a person?

Jake Kemp:

I don't like his vibe at all. I think he's a dork.

Blake Jones:

Man, I thought that GIF of him was funny, him walking up to the game. Do you see what he's wearing? I didn't see that. He's just just dressed like a

Jake Kemp:

typical came out of Kohl's.

Blake Jones:

Suburban dad. He looked like Kirk Cousins, and somebody put over him walking in. My dad, when he shows up to the airport 6 hours early for a flight because he's got all his bags and

Jake Kemp:

I'm probably just jealous. That's all it is.

Blake Jones:

It's gonna be an interesting contract situation with him.

Dan McDowell:

I know. Well, you got a couple years to worry about that. No. You don't. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

He was a rookie last year.

Jake Kemp:

I yeah. But I mean but, typically, for a late round pick, though.

Blake Jones:

So you don't have your 5th

Blake Jones:

5th year.

Dan McDowell:

You don't have the 5th year.

Jake Kemp:

Right? He's the last pick

Blake Jones:

in the I'm not saying it's press. I'm just curious Yeah. No. It's with a guy with his pedigree and but everyone thinks he sucks.

Jake Kemp:

What's his number? Especially for someone who's made no money.

Dan McDowell:

Well, the thought is that he might have you know, they might have made the Super Bowl had he not got hurt last year. Yeah. It hurts during that Philly game.

Jake Kemp:

Right? A weird game. Yeah. Just go back and watch that sometime.

Dan McDowell:

Of course, he's

Blake Jones:

Why?

Jake Kemp:

Just watch what it looks like when an NFL team doesn't have a quarterback.

Blake Jones:

Oh, yeah. Saw the Broncos during COVID.

Jake Kemp:

And they had to play the, oh, yeah. When they ran that receiver out there. Yeah. They were just snapping the ball to Cemac. That was great.

Dan McDowell:

That was great. Saints. Right? I think it was

Jake Kemp:

Bronco Saints. Yeah. He's 41 if you count the one being the one he it was Bronco Saints. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

He's 4 and 1 if you count the one being the one he got, you know, hurt early in the game. Like, he had 44, pass attempts, and he was out of the game. So you might say in full games, he's 4 and o in the playoffs. And then he's about to face Mahomes, and you kinda can't lose if you're playing Mahomes these days.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. If he could beat by Patrick Mahomes, you're just like, yeah. Well, that's just what happened.

Dan McDowell:

So, yeah, let's see his numbers from yesterday. One touchdown winner. You don't like the 867 yards passing.

Jake Kemp:

Like, you don't have to still pitch him.

Dan McDowell:

48 yards rushing. I was just looking at that, and I was looking at the 1981 NFC championship game, The Catch. Gosh.

Jake Kemp:

Joe Mon

Dan McDowell:

Featuring Joe Montana, the hero at the end, of course. Dwight Clark. Yeah. During that game, did he have 53 3 yards rush? No.

Dan McDowell:

He actually rushed for a long of 2. He had negative 5 yards. And before the catch

Jake Kemp:

What is he doing?

Dan McDowell:

He had thrown for 3 interceptions in that game.

Jake Kemp:

Wow. But And Purdy just take No.

Dan McDowell:

I'm sure. That's that's fine, though. That's

Blake Jones:

Will you vote on him to win next year too?

Dan McDowell:

Probably. Bet? Vote on him? Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

What if it's the AP just give Dan a

Dan McDowell:

How did

Blake Jones:

I say vote? Sorry.

Dan McDowell:

Anyway, just having some fun with Brock Purdy. And, I guess it's not Detroit would have been really cool.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. It would have.

Dan McDowell:

Obviously. It would have been really cool. Baltimore, in a way, you're saying, well, what are you gonna do? It's Mahomes. But also in another way, you're saying like, if you think the Cowboys had everything laid out for them Oh, yeah.

Dan McDowell:

1 seed home. All the stat I was listening to stuff leading up to this game because I was trying to figure out if I'm going to gamble on it, and everything was overwhelmingly in the favor of the Ravens.

Jake Kemp:

For sure.

Dan McDowell:

They are, I believe they have 11 wins this year against teams over 500.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. It's the complete polar opposite of, like, Dallas.

Dan McDowell:

Right. Any stiff test they had, they passed with flying cut like, they just destroyed these teams, Whoever came in, and it was gonna be home. And it's their first, you know, championship game for Lamar. And just all that I mean, it was just laid out. The and, the storybook, the storyline is there for him.

Dan McDowell:

You know? The no other team wanted him in the off season BS, which is kinda BS, but, you know, the the contract problems they have. Collusion. They finally paid him. He's got an MVP season.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. This is going to, be the perfect cap. Lamar is finally going to take the n instead. It is yes. He is going to get the Dak treatment.

Dan McDowell:

The he can't win the big one. And Dak, you will still be able to say, well, Dak is not a 2 time MVP, and he's never even gotten to the championship game. So that's why if you are a Dak fan and you say Lamar isn't getting the same heat that Dak gets, well, there you go. Because Dak's probably gonna make more than Lamar in his next contract.

Jake Kemp:

You know, we brought it up last week with, Josh Allen, but it's just it's just it's it's Brady and Manning and maybe even to some extent, Ben Roethlisberger. Like, you're great. If the cards fell differently, you'd probably be in the Super Bowl every 3 years, but you just ran into the baddest MFer of all time. You just happen to be in the same conference or division as Patrick Mahomes. Whereas, again, if you put either one of those guys in the NFC, if you put Josh Allen in the NFC, or you put Lamar Jackson in the NFC, they will be playing a different sort of game.

Jake Kemp:

They would be routinely in the championship game or Super Bowl, but you just have a great coach, and, in my opinion, the greatest football player ever in front of you.

Blake Jones:

Man, Burrow, Mahomes, Jackson, Herbert, Allen. Allen. They're all in the same conference.

Jake Kemp:

You didn't even I mean, you didn't even mention Trevor Lawrence. Like, Trevor Lawrence would be, like, the 3rd best quarterback in the NFC right now.

Blake Jones:

Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Especially with, like, a decent supporting cast. Whereas, like, Dak just kinda wakes up and is the 2nd best quarterback or best quarterback in the NFC.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. His only challenger was Wentz for a couple years. He's the best quarterback in the division. It hurts.

Dan McDowell:

Guys, wanna move on to non sports?

Jake Kemp:

Yes.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. I'd like

Blake Jones:

to I got some Dan Gimbel for later in the week.

Jake Kemp:

Okay. Zone 2.

Dan McDowell:

Let's do it tomorrow.

Blake Jones:

K.

Jake Kemp:

Speaking of France, were we? Earlier. Yeah. I mean, we talked about it a lot on the show today.

Blake Jones:

On the air? Mhmm.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. I don't remember.

Jake Kemp:

Climate activists this weekend, threw some soup on the Mona Lisa, which is a fan of soup. That's kind of the part I'm more upset about.

Dan McDowell:

Sounds funny, though.

Jake Kemp:

It does sound funny. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

And you're not trying to ruin the Mona Lisa. Certainly. It's encased in glass. Yeah. But just throwing soup.

Dan McDowell:

How do you get soup into there? Is it the Louvre?

Jake Kemp:

It is. Okay. Look at that.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. His daughter's over there.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. She said she wanted to go to the Louvre.

Blake Jones:

Have you talked to

Jake Kemp:

us about that? Yesterday? No. I just said no if she maybe

Dan McDowell:

I actually tried some soup. Tried this morning, but I'll talk to her tomorrow

Blake Jones:

morning. Why? Why was this done?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I mean, you know how this is. It's the same thing as, like, the those broads that were chaining themselves to the stanchions at NBA games.

Blake Jones:

But they were at least fighting the Timberwolves guy.

Jake Kemp:

Because he had burned all those chickens.

Blake Jones:

Well, yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I don't I I I yeah. They were, like, animal activists. I really don't know. I read a couple stories about this, but yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Maybe it's like the Rangers where they let you take in a 1 gallon bag. We need to do that. I still think we need to do that.

Dan McDowell:

Spaghetti? Spaghetti. Chili. Chili. Whatever.

Jake Kemp:

You could do some vegan soup or something. Whatever it is that you eat over there. Bag of steak.

Dan McDowell:

Why shot at me? I'm just sitting here enjoying everything. Let's do it. So yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. We should.

Dan McDowell:

You wouldn't dare. Don't test me. 1 of

Jake Kemp:

the women was heard yelling, what is more important, art or healthy sustainable food? Which does not feel like a binary option to me.

Blake Jones:

This is confusing.

Jake Kemp:

It's just to grab attention. You have a shirt on that says, like, Dan's thinking about which is more important. You have a shirt on that says the name of your organization. You hope people go to the website, etcetera. I wonder how

Dan McDowell:

that works if anybody if they do see an uptick. And could we get some downloads if we threw soup on something?

Blake Jones:

Not if we did, but if we got a hot.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. It probably wouldn't hurt. Yeah.

Blake Jones:

Because I checked out the was it the French open?

Jake Kemp:

Yep.

Blake Jones:

I checked out that website a couple times.

Jake Kemp:

Once that lady changed herself to the court?

Blake Jones:

Yeah. She was much better looking than glue girl and chain lady.

Jake Kemp:

I mean, I offered to be shot in the balls with a pellet gun some 40 minutes ago. I would not say I'm a hot.

Dan McDowell:

I'm just trying to think of the hot we could get. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

We know. We we could definitely find one. Anyways, I wanna spend the a decent amount of time here on this Vince McMahon story. K. Good.

Jake Kemp:

Which I know doesn't really do anything to move the needle for you, Dan.

Blake Jones:

Have you heard anything about this?

Dan McDowell:

I think I heard he resigned as the leader, and there's some kinda Yeah. Harassment, something.

Blake Jones:

Okay.

Dan McDowell:

Sex something?

Jake Kemp:

Sex something. Yeah. There's a woman who has, this is from the Wall Street Journal, filed a lawsuit against, him and the company, and the details are, shocking. I'll read you a little bit of an excerpt. When they met, McMahon allegedly made promises of a job at WWE and showered Grant with gifts during meetings that were supposed to be about the job.

Jake Kemp:

He greeted her his underwear and repeatedly asked for hugs. Now I've seen the hug thing, but I've never seen greeted in my underwear. Then the suit said he pressured her into sexual activities in return for employment and warned her to stay quiet about their interactions. She alleged McMahon and another WWE executive locked her in an office at the, organization's headquarters and took turns sexually assaulting her while other staffs were working.

Dan McDowell:

He When is this?

Jake Kemp:

About time ago? 3 years ago.

Dan McDowell:

Oh, 3.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. This is not like a antique rape.

Dan McDowell:

I was thinking, free me too, and then she

Jake Kemp:

Dave Chappelle would say.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. She got the, you know No. The gumption once she saw everybody else doing it. This is that's you gotta think that's kinda ballsy to do it after the whole me too thing kind of exploded. Did you think, this is kinda that's blown over?

Jake Kemp:

Dude, but imagine this, though. Like Get

Dan McDowell:

back to the radar.

Jake Kemp:

Talk about we talk about, like, how teed up sports are. Football's probably, like, the highest, most teed up and some of the crazy stuff that guys there think they can get away with. There's literally nothing more teed up than being the head of wrestling.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. But it's like, isn't he like 70?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Like, don't you think your tea is waning?

Jake Kemp:

It's definitely waning, but he's on a lot of steroids.

Dan McDowell:

The pellet? You don't even know what

Jake Kemp:

that is?

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. I kinda do.

Jake Kemp:

The suit also includes screenshots of explicit text messages that McMahon allegedly sent to Grant. A May 2020 message said, I'm the only one who owns you and controls who I want to fuck you. So it wasn't just that he was assaulting her, he was sort of like, pimping her out. Big pimp, bitch.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. It's crazy. So it's real enough that

Jake Kemp:

that he had to quit.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Yeah. He's He's not like I'm denying these allegations.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. It doesn't seem

Dan McDowell:

like come out.

Jake Kemp:

No. It doesn't seem like it.

Dan McDowell:

He's like, oh, damn. Yeah. And it is crazy.

Jake Kemp:

Like, I know you and I have talked about this, the fact that you, like, completely missed you dodged the bullet of wrestling.

Dan McDowell:

I just don't understand how It's just soap operas. Some people that I really used to respect like you.

Jake Kemp:

You're a jerk. I was a kid. Okay. Yeah. But it was it it at no point was I, like, oh, this is real.

Jake Kemp:

It was more just like, this is exciting.

Dan McDowell:

You know? And if you tell me there's hot girls in there, that's important.

Jake Kemp:

It was so sexed up. Yeah. It was so sexed up.

Dan McDowell:

And there's hot guys too.

Jake Kemp:

Hot guys too. Yeah. A lot of hot guys too.

Dan McDowell:

Little dusting of racism. Right?

Jake Kemp:

At times, a little more of a salt bae.

Dan McDowell:

Okay.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. More more than a dusting. The Morning News has an article this morning.

Blake Jones:

You're not gonna read anything else from the lawsuit?

Jake Kemp:

What do you wanna hear? You wanna hear about the dildos? Yeah. What do you mean?

Blake Jones:

And the other

Jake Kemp:

thing? That he pooped on people's heads.

Dan McDowell:

That's significant. On their head? Yeah. That was

Blake Jones:

One disturbing encounter in the lawsuit occurred in May 2020 when McMahon defecated on miss Grant during a threesome and then commanded her to continue pleasuring his friend with feces in her hair and running down her back.

Dan McDowell:

Now, if I'm the friend Why

Jake Kemp:

is that?

Dan McDowell:

It's I'm losing my Yeah. You might be The blood is not flowing there anymore. Like, oh, I'm not sure. Oh, smells. I'm not Maybe it's a stall tactic.

Dan McDowell:

He was Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Happened to quit. About baseball.

Blake Jones:

So Vince did him a favor.

Dan McDowell:

I'm gonna help you out here. Let me poop on her head. God dang it. Just of all the things I'm thinking that, you know, the 3 of us could do if we ever got a lady.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. That's the bottom of the list as it were.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. I don't think poop should be involved with sex,

Blake Jones:

And that's why we do that. That right there.

Jake Kemp:

No. I don't.

Blake Jones:

No. No. And how does this happen? Like, is

Jake Kemp:

And, again, like, workout Does

Blake Jones:

she know it's good?

Jake Kemp:

Bro, that is not like a fun poop. Like, that guy's eating rib eye every meal.

Blake Jones:

Smells like raw eggs.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. That is not a fun poop. There's no fun poop. No. But that's a bad poop.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. And it You've heard

Jake Kemp:

of this before, though. Right?

Dan McDowell:

I mean, I've heard of the, the hot Carl for sure.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. It's real.

Dan McDowell:

And, of course, the chili dog.

Jake Kemp:

Okay, bud. She settled down.

Dan McDowell:

Look that up. I'm good. Yeah. You guys already know what it is?

Blake Jones:

Yeah. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Alright. But I don't think it exists.

Jake Kemp:

It does. It exists in a lawsuit filed against, the CEO of one of the largest sports entertainment companies in the world.

Dan McDowell:

See, that's he's got a private jet. Right?

Jake Kemp:

There's no doubt.

Dan McDowell:

That's the thing. That's that's what leads to the pedophilia and the weird stuff is, like, just too much money.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Like, if you have too much money, too much power, then you could just do anything, and you're just bored with Missionary. I could have well, forget Missionary. I'm just saying now I I can have 10 models that would do whatever I want.

Jake Kemp:

I poop on all

Dan McDowell:

of them. At the time. But, yeah, now though after being with them enough times, you're like, gosh. Yeah. What if I threw in some poop?

Dan McDowell:

Let's just see if that would, you know or, my gosh. She's well, she's, 30 years younger than I know, but it's still legal, and that's bothering me. Yeah. You know? So let's let's make it What's the next year?

Dan McDowell:

A little little younger even.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

And that's that's the thing. That's why Just what there should be a better now I agree with that there should be better wealth distribution. Yeah. Because of this.

Jake Kemp:

Poop and pedophilia. Yeah. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

That would that would save us. There wouldn't be an Epstein Island

Jake Kemp:

That's true.

Dan McDowell:

If there wasn't that much money.

Jake Kemp:

It would help. Yeah. And then the other note was just that he apparently I mean, the guy's, like, obviously, like, a sex addict sex addict, and he would name toys based on whether they were, like, white or black, based on, like, wrestlers who were white or black. So we'd have, like, you know, a Booker t dildo and then like a,

Dan McDowell:

Is that person black?

Jake Kemp:

Triple h. In your mind, did you think there was a white wrestler named Booker Key?

Dan McDowell:

No. Just trying to help the audience.

Jake Kemp:

That's not as explosive as the poop, but, yeah, there's a lot going on here.

Blake Jones:

I just thought Dan might wanna know that part of the story.

Jake Kemp:

You're probably right. Yeah. I I didn't really wanna talk about it.

Dan McDowell:

Forget about Dan. The people. The people wanted

Blake Jones:

to I'm

Dan McDowell:

just disgusted by we do this for.

Jake Kemp:

I'm disgusted by talk of poop. I hate it. I don't like changing diapers. I do it, but I don't like it.

Dan McDowell:

I never minded that with my kid. Obviously, never tried it with a different kid.

Jake Kemp:

Not not the one you took to the museum?

Dan McDowell:

Not the one I'm babysitting, tonight. I'd but yeah. No.

Jake Kemp:

I mean, I I don't, like, hate it, but I don't I I like, people I never, like, thought farts were funny. Yeah. I'm not on

Dan McDowell:

board with my own poop either. I don't wanna be a part of it at all.

Jake Kemp:

No. However, I was thinking about this actually the other day.

Dan McDowell:

I do eat fiber based cereal.

Jake Kemp:

That's right. And broccoli. Lots of broccoli. Nature's colon cleanser. My buddy once pointed out to me, that humans are the only species that looks at all of their their poop.

Dan McDowell:

I don't look at my poop. Yeah. You do.

Jake Kemp:

No. I don't. Yeah. You do.

Blake Jones:

You should.

Dan McDowell:

Why? You definitely do. I don't. I've I'm I'm flushing as it's coming out. You definitely do.

Blake Jones:

It tells you a lot about your health.

Jake Kemp:

Like a dog? I will tomorrow, but I don't. Moves forward.

Dan McDowell:

I'm telling you I don't.

Jake Kemp:

The dog does not turn around and look at it. Yeah.

Blake Jones:

It tries to cover it up.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. He's kicking grass and dust and dirt up on it.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. You guys are well, maybe I'm the weird one.

Jake Kemp:

I'm telling you

Dan McDowell:

But I am telling you.

Jake Kemp:

Percent of people.

Dan McDowell:

I multi flush. I know. Yeah. I know the book. Because you once left it downstairs.

Dan McDowell:

That is

Jake Kemp:

a 100% not true.

Dan McDowell:

And I wanna be clear that she blame me, and I just told you

Jake Kemp:

week, whenever I guess, honey. Last week, whenever I, goose down there, I flushed 4 times, and there was nothing even in

Dan McDowell:

there. K.

Blake Jones:

A waste of water.

Jake Kemp:

I don't care. I can't deal with this.

Dan McDowell:

Well, I'm just saying I got blamed, and she'll never know that

Jake Kemp:

it's really We'll do the other story tomorrow. There's news.

Dan McDowell:

Oh. Don't don't sound

Jake Kemp:

so bummed. So news. Like and subscribe.

Dan McDowell:

Alright. We'll end with this. I'm sorry. Game zone presents

Jake Kemp:

Today in History.

Dan McDowell:

For those that are used to or accustomed to us, like, throwing out your birthday in the beginning of our show. Sorry we saved it for now, but there's been a lot of stuff going on. All this poop and sports. Yeah. Dolos.

Dan McDowell:

So Jake will apologize for forwarding this to me over the weekend because this came in on Friday. Today is my 40th birthday. This is, from Chase Bailey.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I felt bad about that, but we were at wired wheels. It came in at, like, 11:30. Yeah. We were already rocking and rolling.

Dan McDowell:

It's a new age. I don't even know what that means. The timing the timing on what when we're doing stuff and being able to get the email. Anyway, Chase Bailey. He had a pretty NSFW email.

Dan McDowell:

He did. Love that guy. Hi, Dan. Let's see. He says lots of nice stuff about the show.

Dan McDowell:

That's great. And now I'm trying to get anyway, he says then after that, I turned 21 today, and I wanna share my birthday with my favorite show. And, oh, yeah, something about Hotmail. It's fast and groundbreaking. More Blake reading Hood County News Okay.

Dan McDowell:

And more space dot com From Nathan Parker. You're in luck, Nathan. I got a story for you that's coming up this week. It's been months since I've done anything from space.com. I don't need to hear that.

Jake Kemp:

Why about why not make it all the months forever?

Dan McDowell:

Don't I pick and choose only the top quality stories from space.com? Because every day,

Jake Kemp:

there's news to me.

Dan McDowell:

Sorry, Nathan. Happy birthday to you. Today is my 43rd birthday. Tell Jake I'm sorry to hear about his grandfathers. I didn't know either of mine.

Blake Jones:

I see what you started.

Jake Kemp:

I guess that's worse than both of them.

Dan McDowell:

One died before I was born. The other was captured as a POW during the Korean War. Okay, nerd. Maybe you shoulda. After he was released, he went on to he went on Chinese state run television denouncing United States and was labeled by the US government as a traitor to his country.

Dan McDowell:

He lived the rest of his life in China, therefore, I never got to meet him.

Jake Kemp:

Okay. That's actually badass. I'm sorry about calling him a nerd.

Dan McDowell:

Love the show. More Blake.

Jake Kemp:

Thanks, man. A lot of support today.

Dan McDowell:

From Cody Michael. That's fantastic,

Jake Kemp:

and I would like to follow-up on that story.

Dan McDowell:

Do you think it's real?

Jake Kemp:

That's a 100% what I would have done. Like, if your number comes up after, you know, the honeymooners and you have to go to NAM, I'm looking for the first way out of there and to be like America sucks. Yeah. This is not necessary at all.

Dan McDowell:

Did we see a documentary where they were doing that in North Korea? Like, defectors? No. They weren't defectors. It was captured.

Dan McDowell:

Do you recall this?

Jake Kemp:

Vaguely familiar. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

The last 6 months.

Blake Jones:

Hey. Bruce is missing. Oh, no. Teresa's dog? Mhmm.

Dan McDowell:

Are we on Hood County news?

Blake Jones:

Yeah. This is Hood County breaking news. He dug out of the fence.

Jake Kemp:

It's a great name for a dog.

Blake Jones:

Thursday about 5:30. Said it's, they're little fur baby. So if you've seen little Bruce

Dan McDowell:

hope he's alright. It's a chilly weekend. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

I will tell you guys this. I am constantly freaked out about the cat. I've just never had a cat. And I'm like, there'll be like a whole day where I just don't see it. What if that thing got out?

Jake Kemp:

Dude, I I'm that's the thing. The other day, I was like, it's Chipped, but he's too small to have a collar on right now. And there'll be, like, a whole day where I don't see him.

Dan McDowell:

Chipped is cool. My dogs aren't shipped.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I think it's just like a

Dan McDowell:

Is it like a can you? It's not GPS. You can't pull up find your phone?

Jake Kemp:

I wish you could. There's probably a way to do that. That's gotta be the future. This is more just like it's registered or whatever, but, like, it freaks me out. And my wife will be like, dude, it's a cat.

Jake Kemp:

You're not gonna know where it is all the time. And then just, like, 8 hours later, it'll just emerge from, like, a closet where I

Dan McDowell:

had to where I had looked. They do find crazy places to sleep.

Jake Kemp:

It's really, really nerve wracking. Anyways

Blake Jones:

is anyone missing a black cow? In the fall area near Pecan Plantation in the Dollar General, someone's cow got out.

Dan McDowell:

How would you know if you're missing 1? I would imagine if you own a cow, you own a bunch of cows.

Jake Kemp:

Probably so. Yeah. Right? Like, do you do a head count every morning? Would you put Yeah.

Blake Jones:

There's a cow, but down by the Dollar General.

Dan McDowell:

Do you brand it with the dumb zone logo?

Jake Kemp:

Let us brand your cow.

Dan McDowell:

How cool would that be? That would be amazing. Is that animal cruelty to brand an animal?

Jake Kemp:

They do it anyways. Yeah. Maybe Again, I offered to get shot in the balls.

Blake Jones:

Maybe we can get that done this week.

Jake Kemp:

Got a lot going on, dude.

Dan McDowell:

So it's Monday, January 29th when we're recording live the tape. On this day in 1999 that part? No. Oh. I just started reading some, birthdays.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. On this day in 1989, Chris Dudley of the Cavs set the record for most free throws missed in one trip to the foul line. He missed 5 consecutive free throws. He was, I just remember when I was young being a Cavs fan. I remember Chris Dudley couldn't make free throws.

Jake Kemp:

How did this occur? Fouled on a 3 with a technical and then

Dan McDowell:

It said the Washington Bullets committed 3 lane violations. Jeez.

Jake Kemp:

The knee penalty in all of sports.

Dan McDowell:

On this day in 2007, Kentucky Derby winner, Barbara, was euthanized. 2 days after the latest surgical procedure, was unable to help the colt fully recover from injuries suffered during the Preakness States Steaks the previous year. And, famous wedding on this date. In 1984, Linda Carter, who is known as Wonder Woman on the TV show, married Robert Altman. She was 33.

Dan McDowell:

He was 58. Damn. Which she didn't need to do. No. She's Linda Carter.

Dan McDowell:

She's And

Jake Kemp:

anything she's

Dan McDowell:

possibly the most perfect woman I've ever seen. I would agree with that. Yep. Did that marriage work out?

Jake Kemp:

I would. I have

Dan McDowell:

my doubts. Age age difference.

Jake Kemp:

I have my doubts. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

The answer is yes. They were married until he died in 2021. Wow. How about that? Good for them.

Dan McDowell:

I guess that's the positive. If you want your spouse to die before you, which I think we all do

Jake Kemp:

Very much older.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Marry somebody a lot older than you. Yeah. It's a 30 year marriage, though. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Way to go, Robert Altman.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Must have been a good dude.

Dan McDowell:

Today's birthday is not, Subbies. Well, who knows? Maxi Kleber is 32.

Blake Jones:

I wish he were better.

Jake Kemp:

I wish he was available.

Dan McDowell:

How about that? David LaFleur is 50, former cowboy.

Jake Kemp:

Wow.

Dan McDowell:

Jose Abreu is 37.

Jake Kemp:

50% of the offense.

Blake Jones:

Was it?

Dan McDowell:

Was it David LaFleur? No. It was, Mike Lucky. Lucky. Mike Lucky.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. You're right.

Dan McDowell:

David LaFleur was the tight end that Troy Aikman said want draft wanted draft Yeah. First round.

Blake Jones:

Jose Abreu is 37.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. See, people bring up

Blake Jones:

It's old.

Jake Kemp:

RIP. Gavin Escobar for Romo, but nobody brings up David LaFleur for Troy.

Dan McDowell:

I think Abreu didn't didn't like the fact. That's why he got over here when he was

Blake Jones:

old. Maybe.

Jake Kemp:

That also means, that age might not be correct.

Dan McDowell:

Olympic gold medal diver Greg Louganis is 64.

Jake Kemp:

What a day for Dan. What a day for Dan.

Dan McDowell:

You know his fun, nickname, Blake?

Blake Jones:

Greg Lou Sanis. That's right.

Dan McDowell:

That's right.

Jake Kemp:

Because, people would because he's gay. Put their peepees in his b hole.

Blake Jones:

Yep. Yep. Yep. Romo also wanted Justin Hunter in that draft.

Jake Kemp:

He's not a scout. No.

Dan McDowell:

Oprah is 70.

Jake Kemp:

After retiring from diving, Louganis banded, began to compete in dog agility competitions. Dog? He has said that being around the dogs gave him a sense of security, company, and unconditional love. So, like, he wasn't personally, like, racing other dogs, but

Dan McDowell:

he became a dog trainer. Heather Graham is 54.

Jake Kemp:

Oh my god. Roller girl.

Dan McDowell:

Swingers, Roller Girl, and then one of the Austin Powers movies. And then that's kinda like it. Right? Oh, no. Hangover.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. She's older than

Blake Jones:

I thought.

Jake Kemp:

Great point, Blake.

Blake Jones:

I just thought I did she looks great. I would have thought forties.

Dan McDowell:

Rachel Uchitel is 49.

Jake Kemp:

Hey. It's me, Tiger.

Dan McDowell:

It's. Riff Raff is 42. Oh my god. A hero of mine. Real name?

Jake Kemp:

I know this. Deep somewhere in the recesses of my brain, I know this. But I don't wanna stop us now. I can't remember it.

Dan McDowell:

Oh, it's, Horst Simcoe. I knew the Simcoe part. Damn it. Lisa Emery is 72.

Jake Kemp:

Who's that?

Dan McDowell:

Darlene Snell in Ozark. Sure sucks. Show doesn't suck. It's good for a little bit. I do have some problems with it, but the most disturbing part of Ozark was Darlene, 70 year old was sleeping with, like I can't remember his name.

Dan McDowell:

Was it Wyatt who was, like, 25?

Jake Kemp:

Why is that disturbing?

Dan McDowell:

It just didn't look good to me. But maybe, you know judgment. That's your thing.

Blake Jones:

That's that guy's leather.

Dan McDowell:

And Everybody Everybody's got one. Actor Terry Kenny is 70. That is Tim McManus on Oz. And then died on this day or excuse me. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Died on this day, we have,

Jake Kemp:

Tom. That guy was great. Yeah. I think that show was actually, like, super, super ahead of its time. Yes.

Jake Kemp:

I know that you and Bob used to fight about that because Bob hated it because they did a musical episode.

Dan McDowell:

Well, no. I didn't love that either.

Jake Kemp:

But

Dan McDowell:

The big fight was about and, he probably has a point that I would stick with something something too long.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

So a show gets to sucking sometimes, and then I have to ride it out. Like, man, I've watched them all. I gotta keep watching it.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I don't do that.

Dan McDowell:

And, like, the final season did have a lot of problems. Yeah. Maybe Dexter might be a similar

Blake Jones:

Yeah. I was gonna bring that up. And,

Jake Kemp:

Walking Dead. I hear people say that about that show all the time. But the first two seasons of Oz, though

Dan McDowell:

No. It's in one of those Seppenwall books as far as Like, revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. The, the revolution was televised.

Dan McDowell:

There you go. I believe it is. Yeah. And it's just about, you know, the early HBO days and, The Sopranos obviously is thought of as one of the great shows, but he's saying that Oz belongs in there, and I'm going to concur. Oz, what's our, our cop show?

Dan McDowell:

Well, I mean,

Jake Kemp:

I would say the shield

Dan McDowell:

for sure, but I would

Jake Kemp:

even say the corner. Like, I went back and watched that at your behest at 1 point. Corner

Dan McDowell:

The David Diamond. Miniseries, though.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

But still. So died on this day, we have Tom Brookshire, who is Pat Summerall's play by play partner, and, before, you know,

Jake Kemp:

the guy who Madden. Poops in the

Dan McDowell:

And, Barbaro, who died on this day at the age of 3. And that was

Jake Kemp:

today Patton poops

Dan McDowell:

on guns. History.

Blake Jones:

And Vince McMahon poops on heads. Adios, mofo.

Blake Jones:

When I get tired of listening to the Jimbo Jabber shows, Permeating, infiltrating everything. Sometimes you need something gold. Uncle I mailed then Jacob and Blake. Who couldn't ask for more? Fire up some party, light up your split.

Blake Jones:

It's time to hit the dumb song. Today is stream a cowboy sock, and Vodie too. Then they said Hitler, Blake made a drop. He were males cool. Chappy used to do the pitch, but now he don't.

Blake Jones:

6.9 a month on Patreon. Order a pizza, kick up his shoes, who couldn't ask for more. Fire to party, light at the slip. It's time for the thumbs up.