Violent People Radio #118: Six Boys Rollin' Around

The Hall of Fame results(we're disappointed in you,) Little Debbies, and Nino Extremo vs Necro Butcher

What is Violent People Radio?

The founders of the very good professional wrestling website, Violent People, have made the radical move to start a podcast! Expect to hear their Hot Takes on the world's greatest sport, what they are watching, and what is going on with VP that week.

Dan Rice (01:35)
What's up, Pat?

Pto (01:36)
No much. What's up with you?

Dan Rice (01:38)
Not a whole lot.

Pto (01:43)
It's gonna be a sleepy pad episode.

Dan Rice (01:47)
Even long work day?

Pto (01:49)
Yeah.

Dan Rice (01:52)
Yes, thanks.

Pto (01:53)
And I'm getting my annual route inspection tomorrow. So

Dan Rice (01:58)
Does that mean someone follow you around or

Pto (02:00)
Yeah, no, literally that's what it is. Supervisor follows me around, makes sure all the houses are like still in existence. checks to see how many of them get mail. Checks how long it'll take me. So this is it's in my interest to have as much mail as possible and to take as long as I can without arousing the suspicion that I'm sandbagging.

Dan Rice (02:27)
I was just about to say, I'm like, you should probably be as slow as possible.

Pto (02:30)
Yeah. So I gotta walk that tightrope tomorrow. 'Cause it when they when they do root adjustments, this is the data they use. If like I'm a half hour over eight hours and someone else is a half hour under, they'll cut a half hour off of mine and give it to them when they're figuring out adjustments.

Dan Rice (03:12)
some people closing on a house tomorrow and then they're gonna do their final walkthrough tomorrow and they're like, Can we do it tonight? And I was like, I guess, I don't really want to So I had to run out there.

Pto (03:21)
I mean, as long as they're not saying the N word at the seller.

Dan Rice (03:26)
Can't imagine. ⁓

Pto (03:27)
Like, you know, you're you're already moving on.

Dan Rice (03:32)
The the buyer don't actually doesn't like the seller though, because it's the funniest reason. I I know, it's funny. It's just I I the seller, the buyer's just a good person, and he used to work with the seller, and the seller ⁓ embezzled like a shit ton of money from the company they worked for. ⁓ I don't even I don't know if he actually spent time in prison. I think it ended up being like time served. But the so the guy would look at the house for the longest time. He's like, I know that house, I don't want to look at it. But it was exactly what they were looking for. But for the longest time.

He wouldn't look at it because he's like, I know, I know about the Praetors. I know, I know what his, you know, I know what kind of person he is, and I don't want to help him at all. And I was like, well, he's gonna sell it to somebody. So eventually break him break him down and they see it and he walks in and he goes, God damn it, this is my house. Like it just literally was checked off everything that wanted. But today at the walkthrough, the owner was there and my buyer just like

He was like radiating heat. You could tell he just hates that guy so much. I guess just because he's a thief, which is, I mean, makes him a good person. But I'm like, Calm down, it's not your money. Company's still going strong. Neither of them work for it anymore.

Pto (04:35)
You got what do you I mean, he's gotta buy the house now so we can check in all the floorboards, look in the drywall.

So is there anywhere to watch Slade versus Mad Dog? 'Cause I don't know who has the hookup for produce shows.

Dan Rice (05:14)
I couldn't find it. I didn't look that hard, but I was gonna try to watch it today and I couldn't find it. I'm a I'm people are talking about it, so it's gotta be out there, but

Pto (05:19)
Yeah, I just don't know. I I mean

What up, Chris?

Dan Rice (05:26)
Yes.

Congrats on the win.

chris (05:42)
My body is punishing me like none other.

Dan Rice (06:32)
I guess I is that is that Slade Mad Dog match free on my AEW?

What do you have to pay for?

Pto (06:41)
I have no I'm you will find me in the cold dead ground before you find me with a my AW account.

Dan Rice (06:48)
I mean, I'm not paying for it. But I did just remember on my T V I'm logged into my AEW, so I'm like, I wonder if that's free on there or if I had to pay for it. It's it's not it's not ever clear even pulling up their app whether or not you have to pay for something.

I forgot until like right when I sat down to get this ready that we gotta I gotta read you guys I gotta do the results for the Hall of Fame.

Pto (07:33)
Yeah, no, it's Hall of Fame. That's why I was like, I don't mind waiting 'til nine 'cause Dan's gonna be telling us the Hall of Fame results, so I just have to chime in every now and then.

Dan Rice (07:45)
I think we all will have some thoughts on how it went down.

Pto (07:49)
I kinda wanna stay up to twelve one to see if ⁓ right after it ticks over to midnight the they're doing a Dune double feature for one night only. I'm like I'd like to go see that.

But the tickets aren't on sale until tomorrow.

Dan Rice (08:08)
see if you can get right at midnight.

Pto (08:09)
Yeah. So I don't know if tomorrow means twelve one AM or what?

Dan Rice (08:16)
Now which which two movies?

Pto (08:18)
The first two of the Dallas Dennis Filanoe ones.

Dan Rice (08:20)
⁓ okay. I I thought I was like, why wouldn't they do all three? But I guess that's that's not coming out till like December, probably, huh? I think I might have told you the story, but I was seeing some movie with my nephew and he goes, Part three? I haven't even seen part two like really loudly. And I go, Hey, hey, have you seen part one? And he goes, No.

Pto (08:25)
Yeah.

Well you know the the first one they're always they're just warming up. You can skip that one.

Dan Rice (08:45)
Well like 'cause I I I actually I remember like I'm like, I feel like he would have talked to me about that movie. It feels like a movie he would have wanna discuss at least at some point. And he's like, No, I've never seen it. I guess he's thinking, Hey, I'm not even on the first one yet. They gotta slow down. Their company's out too fast for

Pto (09:00)
I mean, it's really important to see Jason Momoa in a movie that in theory isn't a piece of shit.

Been a while on that front.

Dan Rice (09:13)
Have you have I seen a Jason Mamova movie that isn't a piece of shit?

not a Dune movie.

Pto (09:23)
I'm trying to think of one and

Dan Rice (09:27)
I like in Game of Thrones, but that's not movie.

Pto (09:28)
Yeah, exactly. That's hmm.

Dan Rice (09:35)
He played Conan the Barbarian? I I had never seen this movie.

Pto (09:37)
Yeah, back in like twenty ten.

I mean, no one saw it. It just sank like a stone.

Dan Rice (09:47)
Yeah.

Orchid (09:51)
Hmm.

Orchid (10:05)
Dan, did you happen to get a message about Chris not being recorded?

Dan Rice (10:11)
yeah. Chris, it says your browser doesn't allow recording.

Hmm. Why'd you change your browser? I don't know, maybe try leaving and coming back?

That says low low browser storage.

He's not here anymore. He instant I said leave, he's like done.

Orchid (10:43)
Usually uploads are tracked automatically as the files are uploaded. If it cannot happen to me during temporary stored on your device. Okay. yeah. So he doesn't have enough storage. Just period. It looks like.

Dan Rice (10:55)
See maybe maybe maybe close and maybe you'll help it now. I don't see a message now.

Orchid (11:02)
I I d l I do. Let me ⁓ let me pop back in. You've been you've been going for eleven minutes?

Dan Rice (11:09)
I just I hit record immediately. We haven't really even been talking about anything. Orchids recording will continue on a new track. Yeah, that's fine.

Chris, say something.

Yeah, I mean I'm not.

Yeah, I think we're good. All right. That's weird.

Orchid (11:40)
That's very strange.

Dan Rice (11:41)
I'm sure that bodes super well for the evening.

Orchid (11:44)
You know it.

Dan Rice (11:48)
So you don't have any favorite Jason Mamela movies, orchids?

Orchid (11:51)
I don't have any favorite Jason mo I don't know if I've seen a single Jason mum the movie.

Dan Rice (11:58)
Okay. That's crazy.

Orchid (12:00)
I mean I might have, but like I mean he doesn't

Dan Rice (12:02)
You know it's like you're not watching the Minecraft movie? What are we doing here? Yeah. What are we watching? what are we watching next week? Castle Freak.

Orchid (12:06)
I mean a hundred times. I saw it in theater. Yeah. I was Castle Freak.

Unless you want to appease Tanner and watch a Christmas movie, which to me is I know, but that's but that's the thing. We could Well, he doesn't listen anyway. I was thinking we could make him jealous, but the fact but he doesn't even he wouldn't listen in anyway. But like I'll just tell I'll just tell his wife next time I see her.

Dan Rice (12:17)
Terror will not be here.

chris (12:19)
Yeah.

Dan Rice (12:31)
Now I have ⁓ shit. Now I'm getting I was getting nervous because I was watching him talk about all these W V matches I've been watching and I was like, my God, we're gonna talk about those on the year in show. But then I realized he won't be there.

I won't have to talk about CM Punk.

Orchid (12:50)
I mean, I'm probably gonna recommend CM Punk versus Cody Rhodes at SummerSlam for Who did the year? No, I'm joking, I'm not gonna do that.

Dan Rice (12:56)
I don't know if you're joking. ⁓ okay. Well is that w w when did he almost shit his pants? That was SummerSlam match. Yeah. That makes sense. You're seeing that one.

Orchid (13:03)
That was the SummerSlam match. That's what I would recommend. Yeah. Yeah. I did a Yeah, I did have a lot of fun watching that match 'cause it was enjoyable trying to identify whether or not a forty six year old man shit his pants in the middle of well, at work, you know.

Dan Rice (13:19)
My favorite thing to do is something with a site or something to do with wrestling. And like I'll see like little email notifications pop up that are objectively more important than I'm like close, close. I'm busy. I'm busy. I'm putting Dory Funk I'm putting Dory Fuck Junior's face on an Oreo. I can't I can't reply to this email right now.

Orchid (13:30)
Yeah, that happened to me today.

I mean you did a great job with that. What did you use for it? Like what's like d what give us some, you know, trade secrets. f

Dan Rice (13:39)
I was pretty proud of it.

I I use I just I just use Canva for everything. That's my is Canva bad? ⁓ I thought you were about to be like, Canva, they are they drown a kitten every time you log in. I was like, shit. Yeah. I mean, it's it's a good bet. It's a good bet, yeah. man. I voted I voted today. Guys, we're gonna we're gonna get four more years. I'm all I'm all for it.

Orchid (13:49)
No, that's awesome. I'm proud of you. You do some fantastic work. ⁓

Nah, they're just Zionists. I don't know if that's true. I don't know if that's true. I mean safe to soon. Yeah, thank you.

Congratulations, Chris.

chris (14:19)
Thank you. ⁓ very high energy, clearly.

Orchid (14:20)
How you feeling?

Nice.

chris (14:27)
I opened I opened today.

Orchid (14:27)
I mean ⁓ God. ⁓

Dan Rice (14:30)
my god.

chris (14:33)
It it was brutal.

Orchid (14:36)
Did did you stay out post game?

chris (14:38)
I did not stay out post game.

Orchid (14:40)
Okay, okay. That's yeah.

Dan Rice (14:43)
So you're not a real fan.

chris (14:45)
Yeah. Well I'm not.

Dan Rice (14:47)
Th I guess that's true, yeah.

⁓ I gotta get back to voting. This is more important than sports. Do you guys know what a soil and water conservation district supervisor does?

Orchid (14:55)
Mm.

Pto (15:00)
Yes, but I'm not going to tell you.

Dan Rice (15:02)
I just gotta let you g I gotta let you guys know I think in two years it's gonna be my job.

Orchid (15:08)
I you know the scary

Dan Rice (15:11)
There's a there's apparently there's apparently there's lots of them. You're supposed vote for three, not a single person ran.

Orchid (15:18)
⁓

Dan Rice (15:20)
said vote for three and it's all write in spots. And I like, who whoever, I can just write in like my neighbor. He doesn't want to do this job. So I've looked into it, pays about 60K a year. Seems mostly made up.

Pto (15:28)
You gotta look and see you gotta look and see why no one wants it.

Dan Rice (15:34)
That is true. It's probably terrible. You're probably right. If it was like a good thing, all the good old boys would have it.

Orchid (15:40)
Do you think no Pat, do you think the the folks in Dan's area are hyper concerned about w what do you say it was water and dirt? Is that right?

Dan Rice (15:48)
Yeah, soil and water con conservation district supervisors.

Pto (15:53)
I imagine it's a lot of getting into arguments with people about how they want to build this or that in an extremely EPA unfriendly way.

Dan Rice (16:04)
No, I'll just say yes. Yeah.

Orchid (16:06)
I mean on the

Pto (16:07)
Yeah, I mean yeah, no, be corrupt. You know, sixty K is like before tips.

Dan Rice (16:12)
Yeah.

Orchid (16:13)
On the bright side, you'll probably hear the N word less than you do in your current job.

Pto (16:17)
I don't know about that.

Dan Rice (16:17)
I mean you'd you'd be surprised.

Somebody on Discord one time tried to give me shit as I was at a bar with the Confederate flag and I was like, a man's got a drink. What do you want me to do? If I start crossing all those off the list, it's gonna really between the ones I'm not welcome at and all those, there's not that many left.

Pto (16:33)
They get they they started giving you shit and then they went right back to posting about the Carnage Cup.

Dan Rice (16:40)
man.

What are the freaks posting about right now?

Pto (16:45)
Gotta say, it wasn't it wasn't a great look for Necro Butcher to wear his Confederate flag title belt when beating the shit out of a seventeen year old person of color.

Dan Rice (17:01)
I don't know if we should be are we getting right in the necro ni Nino?

Orchid (17:04)
I think we should get right into ⁓

Pto (17:05)
All right, well let let's get into what we watched this week. I watched Necro versus Nino.

Dan Rice (17:10)
I did as well.

Pto (17:12)
Okay, that's all I watched, so this is all I got.

Orchid (17:15)
Nice.

chris (17:16)
It's more than I did. Yep.

Dan Rice (17:16)
I think that's more than Chris has watched.

All so what what do you think?

Pto (17:25)
I thought it was did you see Phil on our Discord, Phil Schneider, ⁓ famous way of the blade author, the promoter the promoter of Dean declaring it the best match of the twenty first century.

Orchid (17:30)
Yeah.

Dan Rice (17:30)
The the promoter who promotes wrestling shows.

Orchid (17:39)
I didn't see that. I just saw him say that if it it followed up a very good ⁓ type the best Taipei death match in history before that happened like f a few days before. I didn't see him say it was the best match of the twenty first century.

Dan Rice (17:53)
No, he said it more than once and I think he's now trying the book Necro.

Orchid (18:00)
That I love.

Dan Rice (18:02)
yeah. ⁓

Orchid (18:03)
Man, the observer Discord is gonna be poppin' when Necrobusher pops up on my AEW.

Pto (18:10)
What did they think about him becoming a WWE legend?

Orchid (18:15)
I don't know. They were probably talking about Brian's hemorrhoids that day. And I'll admit too that like I haven't really been watching AEW, so like it really it's very difficult being in there. ⁓ with like 'cause that's all they fucking talk about. Like and like things that like I can't for life me

Pto (18:31)
Okay, how is that different from our Discord?

Orchid (18:34)
Well I don't I don't I don't i our Discord I don't really go to the wrestling channel. I d I don't care what these freaks have to say about that. I just g I it's rare that I that I make it to to Mark Mind Virus or Live Wrestling Snark. Is that what it's called? I don't even fucking know. So I don't even know the fucking names of them. Yeah, I I mean

Dan Rice (18:52)
yeah, I d I you don't want to go in live wrestling snark.

Pto (18:55)
Live Wrestling Snark, I need I wish Discord had a way where I could just mute it like on a schedule from like Wednesdays eight to eleven, Saturdays eight to eleven, just have it no notifications for just those blocks of time.

Dan Rice (19:19)
I love the match. And it's like I think I th I watched it and thought, man, match of the year. And then like you said, Phil came on and said, Fuck you, match of the last twenty six years.

Orchid (19:29)
Have you introduced the episode yet?

Dan Rice (19:32)
welcome to Violent People. Episode 118. I'm here as always your host, Dan Rice.

chris (19:33)
Ha ha ha.

Pto (19:38)
Look, you you're not starting with this episode, so you know what you're in for. At this point, if you hit play on this and you didn't already know what was happening, frankly, that's on you, fucking idiot.

Dan Rice (19:44)
This could be a

We could have some new people in here. We got we got, you know, people want to find out the Hall of Fame result. People are watch reading all the funkin' falls.

Orchid (19:59)
I forgot about the Hall of Fame. Do I get a quit do I get a quit for the fourth time this week? I'm excited. I c I'm no matter what I'm gonna quit. I can't wait.

Dan Rice (20:02)
You're in for a treat later after we get talk about wrestling, I guess. ⁓

you're gonna peop you're gonna be worked up. you seem really worked up just this this week in general, but ⁓

Orchid (20:16)
I had a great week. I'm good, I'm good. I'm just on out I'm yeah, I'm doing fine.

That was transphobic. I don't know, something. Was it something you did or about to do? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dan Rice (20:23)
What was transphobic?

Pto (20:26)
You saying that you had a good week? You can't what?

Dan Rice (20:31)
I I think ⁓ you're having a good week why other trans folk are going through that. It's kind of screwed up.

Orchid (20:36)
Mm, mm. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's true.

Dan Rice (20:40)
I haven't had a good week since twenty sixteen. I'm an ally.

chris (20:44)
Yeah.

Dan Rice (20:49)
yeah, but yeah, we have ⁓ Orchid, sh she's here.

Orchid (20:52)
Hey done.

Dan Rice (20:54)
Pat is here and he is wide awake. And even more awake than Pat, we have Chris.

Pto (20:58)
yeah.

chris (21:01)
That's right. That's right. That's right.

Orchid (21:03)
Yeah.

Dan Rice (21:03)
I thought it'd be really cool if you if you hung up right there and just ignored us the rest of the night, I wouldn't even be mad.

chris (21:10)
I should have

Dan Rice (21:11)
So Chris, you have not watched Necronino?

chris (21:14)
I have not. I actually ⁓ I have it up right now.

Orchid (21:21)
you gotta hit play.

chris (21:24)
Yeah, ⁓ it's ⁓ I'm a few minutes in.

Orchid (21:31)
okay, cool.

chris (21:35)
Wrestling hasn't started yet, but

Dan Rice (21:37)
No, you're gonna it's gonna take a little bit. ⁓

I almost feel like I'm spoiler. Match of the year. I mean, it's like Necro punching really hard. Nino's best selling performance ever. Maybe because he's really getting the the shit kicked out of him. ⁓

Yeah, just from from from the opening bell, the little the little bobbin weaves, you know, and just when Necro fucking sweeps Nino's leg out from these underneath him and then punches him in the face. Everything is just like and then it punches him in the face. Like there's I stood up for most of this match.

Pto (22:04)
That was awesome, though.

Orchid (22:06)
Yeah.

Pto (22:08)
I what I liked the most about this match is that it didn't really have any sequences per se. Like it wasn't like, okay, I'm gonna do this, then you do that, then you the it didn't feel choreographed. It felt like you know, they had they'd worked some stuff out in advance, like, okay, we're gonna take it slow, we're going to build up to this or that. But it wasn't like, say, a Kyle Fletcher match.

Orchid (22:16)
Mm-hmm.

Pto (22:37)
⁓ and I just thought for being so simple, I really enjoyed it. I don't think it's quite as deliriously insane as the Satica matches have been with all the exploding crates. But I also think that that's kind of a one of one situation. ⁓ though if someone did introduce Nino Extremo to exploding crates, I mean he would burn his hair off in his next match, guaranteed.

Frankly, I'm amazed Sadika like she wears these long, like, you know, cheap wigs. I'm amazed those haven't gone up like fucking Michael Jackson.

But that is to say, Nino versus Necro, great match. Lots of blood. I only watched the fan cam version. I didn't see the title match network official thing. I watched the version Okay, that's what people were saying.

Dan Rice (23:29)
I think the fan current version's better.

Orchid (23:33)
You're you're missing out on some of the best commentary you've ever heard in your entire life. ⁓

Dan Rice (23:37)
⁓

Pto (23:38)
⁓ yeah, I'm sure. No, they should have done this with like the way they do some of the Joshi promotions where they have the actual wrestlers in an inset down in the corner commentating on their own match.

Orchid (23:48)
Yeah.

Pto (23:53)
Just Necro and Nino and Chigusa Nagayo chatting about the match.

Dan Rice (23:57)
I will say if I had something say say something negative about it, and I feel stupid saying this, but it's only because it's necro and like this is so anti his entire fucking persona and like his all the shit he's talking on Facebook is. Did did they have to take the fucking mark pick after where they're like crying in the locker room with their heads next to each other?

Pto (24:17)
What was the deal with the what was the deal with the woman at the end? Was that part of the match where she was just screaming her head off at Necro? Like or was that just like a Houston no, I thought Nin I thought Nino's mom was the woman who ran into the ring and was like covering him. There's another there's another woman who's just like after ⁓ the finish, she just starts screaming. She's off camera for a lot of the fan camp thing. You can kind of see her in the corner.

Dan Rice (24:17)
I don't know how like out there that is, but

Orchid (24:26)
Yeah, so that's that's

Dan Rice (24:26)
Yeah, that's Nino's mom.

⁓ I don't know w that's what I'm talking about, yeah.

Pto (24:46)
But she's not in the ring with Nino. And she is going off. And I'm just like, is this an angle or is this just like, you know, Houston wrestling fan gets a little too drunk? there was another woman in the crowd, aside from either of these two women, who, as Necro's exiting, screams like, Fuck you, you rapist piece of shit.

Dan Rice (25:08)
Yeah, yeah, they were all really mad at him.

Pto (25:10)
Yeah. Except for like, you know, all the white guys with their shirts off. They were loving it. Necro Butcher is their spirit animal for a certain white guy from Texas who takes his shirt off at the wrestling show.

Dan Rice (25:14)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's there, yeah.

I mean, it's so good and it's like I'm assuming they're gonna run it back and there's just there's just no way that they'll be able to recapture this, but I'm so excited for it anyway. ⁓

I really want to watch ⁓ Sicko the Clown versus Shane Mercer from that show, but I haven't watched it yet.

Pto (25:45)
That seems like a match designed to kill someone. And I'm not sure which of them. Probably Sicko more than Shane, but you know, Shane could also die from someone else's negligence, like manslaughter.

Dan Rice (26:01)
Shame Mercer also could just die at any moment.

Pto (26:03)
That's true. I mean we all could.

Orchid (26:05)
Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing.

Dan Rice (26:05)
Yeah, well I guess that's true. He he's got that look about him though.

Orchid (26:11)
Does anybody want to talk about other wrestling so Chris could get caught up here or was I don't know. So no, I we we need to talk about this. So he so I am okay, so Sam absolutely was am. I'm very flustered. I'm very flustered. So like, you know, I was very bummed I had the miss last week because like I was really looking forward to like, you know, listening to you two flirt, right? And then Sam comes

Dan Rice (26:15)
⁓ okay. You want me to speak about some Joshi wr wrestling?

You're flustered right now.

Orchid (26:41)
Like with nothing but, you know, things to you know, just a plethora of of gifts for me. He's watched Senjo, ⁓ like and then you finally are like, I'm gonna check this shit out. Like as if that you know, whatever. I mean Yeah, you needed yeah, good you could point, right. And I'm I'm not human. So that that that that tracks. You did vote today, so ⁓ thanks for thanks for allyship. I appreciate it. Man, I answered that.

Dan Rice (26:58)
Just I just needed someone to recommend some stuff to me.

⁓ I got you. I got you. So you don't want me to talk about sorry.

Orchid (27:10)
Thank you both.

I don't go for it.

Dan Rice (27:17)
Alright. So here's the thing. Her versus Cinca. the Sinca love, sometimes it's like, okay, I think she has like a 9.99 on cage match or something. And it's it's really annoying. And I dislike her until I watch her wrestle. She's fucking good. It's real she's really fucking good. That match was so good. Like I felt I I feel like all the words I had to talk about are so like cliche and like overused, like struggle. Like the struggle in that match.

Orchid (27:32)
Mm. That was a good fucking match. ⁓

Dan Rice (27:46)
It's so good immediately. and then like sorry's like a real like piece of shit. And I like, you know, I like when women are mean. We all know that. We'll get into that later. But yeah, it fucking ruled. But I'm gonna go a little I'm gonna I'm gonna segue that is not the best Cinca mass I watched this week because I watched Cinca versus Sam's girl, Chica.

Orchid (27:56)
Mm-hmm.

Dan Rice (28:13)
And maybe not a b maybe not a better match, but a very good match. And no, I'm definitely not. There's no way I've ever broken up. ⁓ Chica, Chica, can you hear me now? Hello.

Orchid (28:19)
You break it

Well I mean this time I wanna hear you. This time I wanna hear you. You are.

Pto (28:30)
He didn't break up a single time last week.

Dan Rice (28:32)
Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

chris (28:35)
Yeah, it's cra it's wild.

Dan Rice (28:39)
Nothing's changed, ex well one thing has changed.

Orchid (28:39)
⁓

Mm-hmm on the problem. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Dan Rice (28:45)
Okay. But Chica, I don't know that she's good, but she's delightful.

Like when Cinca's trying to run against the ropes. Exac exactly. It's like a very different wrestler, but I have the same feeling about her. Where like she does like the splash against Cinca when Sinka's trying to run against the ropes and she just is falling on her constantly. And like I said, you have Senka who is, despite my best efforts, really, really good and makes everything look like she's just breaking every bone in their body.

Pto (28:55)
I think you could say the same thing about Nino.

Dan Rice (29:21)
Lifting or throwing Chica. so I think I like that even more than the sorry match. But those are No, this I think this was from like April. Did they have another match?

Orchid (29:28)
Was that from the next night?

Okay. No, no, I just I haven't watched the second ⁓ Marvelous no yet. I was just I I I don't think Chica's been in Marvelous. I think she's like mostly in Sandra. I might be wrong. ⁓

Dan Rice (29:43)
This match was in ⁓ Evo, I think. Evo Evolution. But no, I but I watched the sorry Cinca match and I made me want to watch more Cinca because like I said, I try to always I just feel like people hype her up so fucking much. But she's really good. So I I kinda get it and people like rookies. They can like say, like that's my girl, that's my person and ⁓ but yeah, well watch

Orchid (29:46)
okay. Okay.

I think she's especially good for being ninth night. yeah, I think she's especially Yeah, she's yeah. I I think that's like it's I I have a hard time remembering that she is, just because like she does feel like light years better than like so many other workers. But I think like a minimum, like she instinctually gets it and then on top of that, like I don't know, she's not like any of the fuckwads in stardom. ⁓ it's like I don't know, decent wrestling.

Dan Rice (30:07)
Yeah, she's a baby.

And will say, unlike some others, like how do you say AZM? Is that Azumi?

Orchid (30:36)
A zoom in, yeah.

Dan Rice (30:37)
Okay. Azumi, I enjoy watching her sometimes, but like she is what she is. And like people like hyped her up when she was younger. But like Cinca's already good. And like I you can project her to keep getting better. Like I can see that she will become a better wrestler the older she gets with some of these girls. It's like that's not gonna happen. ⁓ but yeah, both those matches were fucking just really fucking great. I kind of only I only watched maybe four matches this week, and they all four were fucking awesome.

Orchid (30:47)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Dan Rice (31:04)
I watched the Necro match, those two matches, and then I watched ⁓ the main event of Dragon Gate from October 10th. It was ⁓ Love and Peace versus I don't know how to say this team name. Xenostar Nova Nova, Homer, ⁓ Rayoya, Tanaka, and Kazuma Kimura, who I'm guessing is a rookie. I've never seen him before. He was cool as shit. and then Love and Peace is Hayo, Jackie Kamei and Rita. ⁓

Orchid (31:21)
Yeah.

Dan Rice (31:34)
Gonna be pushing for Jackie again when we do the year and show. If I keep watching Dragon Gate, he's so fucking good. This match is so stupid. It's 20 minutes. They fucking they don't even think about selling for an even one second. ⁓ but it fucking rules, it's just six boys rolling around, they're flying and rolling around, and it's just it's like, yeah, if they all could do it this fast and this well every time, it'd be amazing. They the problem is they can't.

But when they do it, when Dragon Gate does their little fucking super fast six man bullshit, it still hits. And ⁓ so yeah, check that out. Those are my four matches. What about you, Orchid?

Orchid (32:19)
Thanks for asking. why I said that. ⁓ yeah, I watched some wrestling. ⁓ did anyone else watch the Slade? no, it would only be you. And everybody else has already said they haven't watched. Yeah. ⁓ I would I'd be really curious if e if any of y'all ⁓ end up watching the Slade Mad Dog Connolly Taipei deathmatch. ⁓ not yet. I'm it I'm getting to that. ⁓

Dan Rice (32:32)
It would only mean I told you I've only watched four matches.

Like Ellie. ⁓

Orchid (32:49)
later tonight. I will be talking about that on Tuesday, brother. ⁓ but no, I'd be curious what y'all thought about Connolly and Slade when you get to it. ⁓ 'cause it's it it is one of those things where it's interesting. Like for me is like I if I have seen a Taipei death deathmatch, it was ⁓ like twenty five years ago and it would have been, you know, the E CW one, which, you know, we all know kind of fucking blows. ⁓

It just like it just seemed to me that it was just so interesting that like both of them just like are on like or at least start out on like such opposite ends of the spectrum. ⁓ like the one from the produce show, the Connolly and Slade one, it's very clear that they're like using, you know, worked class. And like as soon as like I watched that after I had watched the Necromatch and like to just kind of like see like

Not like I needed a visualization for this, but just to kinda like see how like easy it is like from just like a like a very like light body shot like to bleed from like a a Taipei deat match. ⁓ to pivot to like watching these twos just fucking wail on each other with their fists and like there's there's no blood for like a little for a bit and it's just kinda like, well, that kinda like, you know, takes the magic out of it for me. ⁓

It's one of the like it's funny. I do think out of every match between Connolly and Slade that I've seen so far, and granted, Pat, you're like at what might have been the best one and you know, we don't get the footage for it. ⁓ this was the one I I think I enjoyed the most. I definitely like I definitely liked it as much as the one from Road Report. ⁓ just had a really just fucking just dope, brutal finish to it. In many ways, like

The finish that match like feels almost as brutal as anything that happens in the ⁓ Nino Extremo and Necro Butcher one. ⁓ but yeah, so I would just be really curious like what y'all's thoughts are if you ever get around to it. I think I still probably like the Nino one better, but it I don't know a good ma a good match. I don't rate it nearly as high as the Nino match, which I'm a lot lower on than y'all.

Pto (35:12)
I do wanna s I do wanna see it because it's Slade and I'm honor bound to watch anything Slade does that doesn't involve the weird Amy Rose storyline he's got going. But I mean that's that's not what I want to see out of a Slade match, sorry. But with this one I was really fascinated by ⁓ Eric from Segunda Kaida was posting about being in the crowd for it and the crowd being really quiet, not out of disinterest but out of

Orchid (35:12)
A lot strong.

fault yeah.

Pto (35:41)
concern. Like, you know, they're going quiet because they're like they suddenly this feels very uncomfy to watch. And that made me want to see it more. I just haven't found it yet. And I mean, I'm gonna be honest, like sorry Eric, sorry Phil, sorry Jair, I am not signing up for my AEW. That's just not happening.

Orchid (36:06)
blame you for that at all. ⁓

Yeah, we could get Yolink. That's not gonna be difficult. ⁓ Yeah, I do think that like the f the finish of it was the most brutal both of them have ever looked to me. Even like I think it it appeared more brutal than the Slade Schlack match. ⁓ in a just completely different way. Just like striking. I don't wanna ruin it for y for any of y'all. I would I would

Pto (36:33)
Yeah, I mean the the Slade versus Schlack thing is is a crazy finish, but it's also it's not as primally awful as it could be. It's you know, I mean, it hinges on Schlack putting someone in a chimera, which you know

Dan Rice (36:35)
No, I'll try to watch it before Tuesday.

Pto (36:54)
You you all know.

Orchid (36:56)
We do. We do. I also from that show, I also watched ⁓ Adrian Quest and Super Crazy versus ⁓ Dos Gringos Locos. Gringo Loco and KJ Orso. I think I'm on record on this podcast about how much I love men's bellies and thinking about tickling said men's bellies. Have I have I discussed that on this podcast before? It's weird. Okay, yeah. No. ⁓ the

Dan Rice (36:58)
We we know.

Pto (37:20)
You have. It's weird.

chris (37:20)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Dan Rice (37:23)
You have and it's not weird.

Orchid (37:25)
Thank you. I may think I mean obviously

Pto (37:27)
No, I'm I I think we need to go really sex negative with this podcast.

Orchid (37:31)
I didn't I mean the that you assume that's erotic is your own projection. So I mean

Dan Rice (37:36)
You're kinda putting your own stuff on that, man.

Pto (37:40)
I'm just saying, you know, we need to talk shit about wrestling in general a lot more as part of this sex negative push. We need to be body negative, sex negative. We need to we need to blackpill the shit out of this thing, man.

Dan Rice (37:46)
I got really scared. I got really scared Orchid was ⁓ negative negative.

Pto (37:57)
Anyway, I'm s I'm sorry. You were

Dan Rice (37:57)
Orcut, I was really worried you were gonna say that you were on record as being a K J Orso fan or something.

Orchid (38:04)
⁓

chris (38:04)
Yeah, that was I w I was worried too.

Dan Rice (38:07)
I was like, no.

Orchid (38:10)
No, don't don't don't stress that. I mean, there is something pretty impressive about like I don't know, slightly more enhanced Sammy Guevara, with somehow less charisma. ⁓ there's always something fascinating about you know seeing something like that happen. But no, the real moneymaker here is super crazy. I mean it within the first three minutes, it looks like his heart's going to explode. And

Out of everything that Produce has presented with me so far, watching one of my beloved ECW ⁓ childhood heroes just die in the ring is something that I would like to see happen. I don't it doesn't need to be super crazy and I'd prefer to be somebody who like I like less than super crazy. Well that wasn't Produce though, that was G CW. As we know the curse promotion. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know.

Dan Rice (38:49)
I mean, they tried with Sabu.

⁓ sorry. Yeah, you're right. Sorry.

Pto (38:56)
Do you think it should be little Guido?

Orchid (39:00)
That would be good. As an Italian, I would love to watch a liquido die in the ring. ⁓ yeah, that that that that'd be a good pick. ⁓ Amish Roadkill would be fine as well. I don't know, who else would who else would we want to

Pto (39:11)
I don't know if Amish Roadkill has enough legend juice.

Dan Rice (39:15)
If you told me Amish Rockil was already dead, I'd I'd believe it.

Orchid (39:16)
For a produce show?

chris (39:16)
And that's a shame. That's a shame.

Pto (39:17)
I mean no, if to to rep to carry the ECW flag.

I think most people think I think most people remember Amish Roadkill more as the three BW champion, to be honest.

Orchid (39:22)
If you

Dan Rice (39:30)
You're right, you're right.

Orchid (39:30)
And his and his appearances in two CW.

Pto (39:33)
Those ⁓ yeah, no, I who could forget that. Though speaking of ⁓ I think the perfect candidate for this is Blue Mini, actually.

Orchid (39:40)
Ooooo Yeah, blue mm-hmm.

Pto (39:43)
He's he's got the E C W. He looks like he might die at any time. He had the belly at one point.

chris (39:43)
Yeah.

Orchid (39:50)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, that was a fun match. ⁓ again, anytime I could watch two men ⁓ shaped exactly like that, ⁓ do some La Lave for two and a half minutes before they become visibly winded for the next nine. ⁓ I'm I'm happy to see it. So that was cool.

Dan Rice (40:14)
Before you move on, Pat, how close are you to Cambridge, Massachusetts?

Pto (40:18)
I'm very close. ⁓ if you're talking about super crazy at Focus Pro. No, I was ⁓ no, 'cause that wasn't that was an afternoon show and I was working. So I wouldn't have been able to make it out there.

Dan Rice (40:20)
So you could have saw supercritty. Yeah.

⁓ there's nothing else you'd want to watch on this show anyway. I guess this

Pto (40:32)
yeah, no. I looked at the I I looked at the card and I'm just like, all right, another focus pro show I can safely skip. I was supposed to go out there for the ⁓ no holds barge show at ⁓ that was the second part of the double header, but I had to keep working late and I'm just like I don't want to show up to a no holds barge show at an hour late, so I just stayed home.

Dan Rice (40:53)
And then before you move on from KJ Orso, I need to read that tweet he did in May. This is like one of favorite tweets ever. When the market is oversaturated with Osprey wannabes and cutter variations, I decided to be different. Strut like flair, talk like Bachwinkle, bump like perfect, sell like funk, work a submission like Danielson, ooze charisma like HBK, and I can still fly with the best of them.

Pto (41:13)
I thought you were gonna talk about the one the tweet he just did about selling his trunks.

Dan Rice (41:20)
No, I bought those. The you should take that tweet down.

Pto (41:21)
Let me let me

Did he he took it down?

Dan Rice (41:26)
No, he should but I bought him. I I don't want him selling them.

Pto (41:30)
Give me a second here. I gotta find the quote. All right. So he posted on September in September, parting with three sets of ring warm gear ring worn gear. DM if interested. And it's a you know picture of three trunks sitting on the floor, and and then a picture of him like wearing them. ⁓ then he quote tweeted it on October twenty second saying, This left wrestling Twitter and went to gay Twitter so fast that my DMs were flooded.

Dan Rice (41:47)
my god.

Pto (41:56)
So instead of dealing with all the messages, I decided I'm going to let them battle it out in a whatnot auction tomorrow night. So we gotta look into this and see if if gay Twitter hit up his whatnot.

Orchid (42:03)
What ⁓

Dan Rice (42:05)
I gotta be honest, it seems like maybe it got the gay Twitter because it has like over 206,000 views.

Orchid (42:15)
Now I do you think Tanner do you think Tanner's do you think Tanner's wife would like those? 'Cause if that auction hasn't happened yet, I'm I'm I'm beyond happy to I don't think I can't think of anything I love more than to ⁓

Dan Rice (42:15)
It seems like seems like a lot.

Pto (42:27)
So I'm I'm looking at the ⁓ the replies to the original post. one guy's username that I can't say on the podcast replies Kinky. ⁓ another one, Sir Wolf at Slave Camp BDSM says sexy boy.

chris (42:48)
Yeah.

Pto (42:50)
At Dear Chris underscore thirteen, I'll only buy them if unwashed. At Joshua Michaels too, not washed and then the little sly, smiley face.

Dan Rice (42:55)
Okay.

chris (43:00)
Mm.

Orchid (43:01)
⁓ Yeah, I don't know if it made it a gay Twitter or

Dan Rice (43:07)
I'm on his whatnot and there's only a few chats still left up here. And this one I I know is about wrestling, but it made me really sad. Someone said, You deserve a permanent home.

Orchid (43:16)
Aww. Like a little pumpy.

Pto (43:19)
No, he doesn't.

Dan Rice (43:19)
I was like, I agree.

chris (43:20)
You're you're forever home.

Orchid (43:23)
We could adopt we could adopt KJ or so, right? Like there's gotta be somebody in the Discord who will take him in. I can

Dan Rice (43:26)
my gosh.

Pto (43:29)
Okay, so in the replies to the one about this left wrestling Twitter and went to gay Twitter, at Big Trouble BB, genius.

Dan Rice (43:42)
All right.

Orchid (43:44)
Yeah. Cool.

Dan Rice (43:46)
I'm sorry, Orchid. We can move past KJ Orso the K J Orso section of the podcast.

Orchid (43:51)
Cool with that. No. I also watched the Eddie Kingston versus Luke Jacobs about like three minutes ago. ⁓ fucking cool match. ⁓ really like watching ⁓ this version of Eddie Kingston. Really likes kind of like serves as a mainstay, as like kind of like a gatekeeper against the much younger generation. ⁓ the things that he does to make Luke look strong, ⁓

pretty just pretty fucking sick for like what's mostly a strike based match. ⁓ incredible gusher from Luke Jacobs. Maybe one of the best I've seen this year. Top three. especially one that's like, you know, not involving a, you know, like a deat match or, you know, taping glassier hands. ⁓ really just like it's sort of like

goes from like the top of his hairline, like ends up spreading to like both arms all the way down to like his waist. It was like just fucking vicious from that perspective. ⁓ love the fuck out of it. St oversated its welcome a little bit, but it's like Brit Rest. It's in progress. So like what the fuck do expect? I did watch or I tried to watch ⁓ Alex Cologne and Dred versus Nick Age and Ricky Shane Page. Shocked Dan you didn't watch that. but I guess you want to flirt with Sam or you want to flirt with me, go right the fuck ahead. ⁓

Dan Rice (45:14)
Well, I well first off, you should be happy but I told Sam I would watch it and I lied to him.

Orchid (45:18)
okay, yeah, no, I feel good now. Okay, great. Cool. Yeah. and yeah, no, and then I also watched the Carl Greco Malenko and Josh Barnett match, which ⁓ yeah, I mean, like, what the fuck can you say? Carl Gre Greco Malenko is like probably in top three for me for VPR. ⁓ like one ⁓ VP one hundred once it comes to time to vote. I can't imagine him not being in it. I and I fucking

Christ almighty. It's ⁓ God. I mean, just watching him just be like like wrestle in a match where he's like cle like obviously clear clearly like smaller than Barnett and just like seeing what he would do during that match. ⁓ God, yeah, what a f what a fucking incredible I think out of everything I watched this week, that's probably the match I wa I like the most. ⁓ watching it with my wife was hilarious because like she was on her phone.

And as soon as Call Greco Malenko came up, like her ears perked up and she put her phone down and started watching. ⁓ I am very interested in learning the type of men that my ⁓ wife finds physically attractive. ⁓ I did not see that one coming. That was a big surprise. and ⁓ yeah, I think that would be it for the most part in terms of what I watched. I mean probably a few other things here and there and ⁓ but nothing none that really stuck out.

Pto (46:37)
So can I can I can I put a marker down, ⁓ you know, make kind of a a gentleman's bet with myself. When the VPR one or the VP one hundred finally comes out, the final results, I feel reasonably certain that the Cretans who visit our site and listen to this podcast and vote in this thing are going to put Bandito above Greco Malenko.

Orchid (46:44)
Please.

Dan Rice (47:00)
⁓

Orchid (47:02)
See I don't even I

Pto (47:02)
I would love to I would love to be proven wrong. I would love to, you know, ⁓ eat shit on that statement. Just saying.

Orchid (47:13)
We gotta do something about that. I'll go I'll go to the vi I'll go to the Mark Mind Virus channel, I think. No, no, never mind, I take it back. That's fine.

Dan Rice (47:20)
See, I'm ex I'm excited to watch those those produce matches. ⁓ I was reasonably sure that Josh Barnett was gonna eat him up. So it sounds like that didn't happen. I don't really wanna know too much about it. But ⁓ so I'm pretty excited about that. That's just when I saw that booked, it seemed like it was like Josh being like, that's cool. I can't wait to get a win over this guy. And so

Orchid (47:35)
Yeah.

Pto (47:43)
I mean it's I I it might be a Josh Barnett the first Josh Barnett match I've been interested in watching in at least a couple of years, because usually it's just kinda like, All right, Josh Barnett and ⁓ his buddy who trains BJJ on the weekends and it's almost kind of like a like how Rob Viper always talks about the AEW guys treating CML L as fantasy camp. That's what Josh Barnett matches feel like to me more often than not.

Orchid (47:43)
They both ate well in that match.

Dan Rice (48:12)
⁓

Orchid (48:13)
It is it is not that, thank God. Yeah.

Pto (48:14)
Yeah, that's what I expect 'cause Greco Malenko is like, you know, an actual he's Greco Malenko. He's not like, okay, you know, indie wrestler who wants to ⁓ you know, kind of do a worked BJ J match.

Orchid (48:33)
It definitely there there were periods where it did just feel like it was just two old men rolling around. ⁓ like it just seemed like i it it periods it did feel like this is almost like I almost feel like I shouldn't be watching this. ⁓ this does seem like how both of these men handle foreplay. ⁓ but that period you you quickly get past that pretty quick.

So yeah, I'm back, brother.

Dan Rice (49:05)
yeah. Chris, have you finished Necronemia?

chris (49:07)
Yeah, I I have finished the map.

Dan Rice (49:10)
Give us detailed thoughts right now.

chris (49:12)
Think it's fucking dog shit.

Dan Rice (49:16)
that'd be awesome if you're like you hated it.

Orchid (49:18)
My friends.

chris (49:20)
No, I I enjoyed it a lot. ⁓ Orchid was saying she hasn't seen a lot of Taipei deathmatches in the past however many years I have seen a lot of them. They fucking stink most of the time.

Orchid (49:41)
Yeah, I believe it.

chris (49:42)
And it's because of like what you were kinda talking about with like ⁓ when you were talking about the Slade match, like like a lot of the time it's worked glass or they're just like or if it's real glass they're not very clearly not hitting each other hard with it. and it's

usually just descends into like a regular deat match that has guys with taped fists with some glass on it. Whereas this match is actually working the gimmick of a Taipei deat match. And ⁓ the fucking like blood around like especially like early on before both of these both of these boys get real bloody,

when you just start seeing the cuts around like the the jaw and chin of Nino. So sick. I I enjoyed the little yeah, Bob and Weave to to start it and really it's a match that's ⁓ like really built around Necro's punches.

which have been one of the most prob easily the most acclaimed part of Necro as a worker. ⁓ is that he's always had just great punches and this is a match with someone who ⁓ idolizes him and wants to sell these punches like death. and it's very satisfying.

Orchid (51:38)
Did you watch the fan cam?

chris (51:40)
I did watch the fan cam.

Orchid (51:42)
I feel like I really fucked up by watching I I wish I knew there was a fan cam 'cause like one of the things that like really fucked with me on the live recording, ⁓ the feed was like do do you see him hug his mom on the fan cam?

Dan Rice (52:01)
⁓ I feel like you do, but I don't know.

chris (52:03)
Yeah.

Orchid (52:03)
Okay. You do? Okay. Yeah. It was like so like yeah, in like the in like the not like just seeing him hug his mom, but then also just like hearing them like point that out on commentary, it was just like the most like Chekhov's mom moment like possible. I was like the minute she got introduced into it, I was like, Well, I know where this is going. And like the like how long he hugged her, ⁓ just like it also kinda like yeah, just sort of like

Dan Rice (52:18)
Yeah.

Orchid (52:31)
revealed the hand a little bit too much. And I think like that was that definitely was like work like actively working against me for it. Like I just kept like I just kept like approaching it like before the first like shot came in. ⁓ like before the first like like body shot came in. I just kept being like how I don't know how they're gonna make this interesting. I I mean I turned around, don't get me wrong. But like yeah, I just feel like I really did a disservice to myself by especially after like how much I love the the fan cam and the little sicko match. Like I I shouldn't even fucking bother. I was dumb.

⁓ what y'all did miss, I think, is the context that ⁓ quote Nino ⁓ was a trained boxer before that. So that's why he was so good at ducking and weaving in the beginning of the match. Yeah. That's why I was dying laughing. I was like, he trained for this moment. I was like, he was thirteen years old. He was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna f fight this old racist rapist with with glass on my fucking knuckles. That's fucking cool as shit. ⁓ yeah, I got a big kick out of that.

chris (53:08)
⁓ okay.

Dan Rice (53:09)
A trained boxer. He's thirteen years old.

I went to ⁓ cage match to look up their list of Taipei deat match, but they only list twenty-three. I'm like, I don't I've seen a I've seen a fair amount of these. And I'm like, Yeah, I don't know that I've ever liked one before. Like ⁓ I do like Akira versus Ricky Shane Page MLW's fun because it's a Taipei deat match and like Akira kicks a lot. He kicks the whole match.

Orchid (53:47)
What?

Dan Rice (53:50)
Which is really good. But then I was thinking, I was like, ⁓ I vaguely remember liking Mickey Knuckles versus Rachel Putzki from that like two thousand six Queen of the Death matches where they brought in ⁓ Mayumi Yozaki. But I think it's just the same thing with Chris is saying where it's like it just became a deat match. Like it wasn't a type A deat match, it's just like a deat match where two people happen to have glass, quote unquote, on their hands. Where this was like, I mean, it just looked like two dudes just were fucking like, let's put glass on our hands and beat the shit out of each other. I don't know why two people would agree to do that, but they did.

Orchid (54:06)
Yeah.

Yeah, totally.

Dan Rice (54:21)
It's fucking awesome.

Orchid (54:22)
If you're gonna do it anywhere, it's in Houston, Texas in two thousand and twenty six. You know, the closest we can get to a hate crime in in the state, the better.

Dan Rice (54:32)
Now do you think the rematch could take place at like a arcade in Austin? Or wherever you're seeing

Wrestling. Sorry. Yeah.

Orchid (54:42)
sorry. At at the pinballs on Research Boulevard. I don't know if it could happen there, but it could probably happen at the park ⁓ down from the trailer park that like is next to where I live. It would absolutely happen, like a it very well could be. It very well could be. There are probably two dogs engaged in a type A deat match right now. I went on a walk last night and something ran behind me. Like like

Dan Rice (54:54)
might be happening there right now.

Orchid (55:08)
Something on four legs, and they're like ducked into a bush. And I had never been more horrified in my entire life. It was like eleven thirty, too. I I've like basically sprinted home.

Dan Rice (55:10)
⁓

Good shit. All right. ⁓ you guys wanna talk about what's going on on the site before we get to the big top?

Pto (55:26)
Let's do it.

Orchid (55:26)
What is it? Yeah, sure.

Dan Rice (55:28)
A lot has come been done since we last spoke. ⁓ you got Snowden's 1977 Terry's piece. We did like a fake interview. I thought it was really interesting. ⁓ I talked about Paradise Alley, a movie I fucking adored. And I want everyone to go out of their way and watch it. It's really fucking good. I can't believe I've never seen it before. Tanner, you know, the architect of Funk and Fall, the project manager, the number one most involved person.

Orchid (55:57)
Ideas guy.

Dan Rice (55:59)
the ⁓ they they put up a piece that they definitely put a lot of time and effort into.

I'm pretty proud of the featured image I made for that one.

Sam had his funk and fall piece that I definitely didn't give him the wrong year for. And ⁓ I had an interview with Max Payne, and then more importantly, I think the best episode of the patron saints of Six Sons of Bitches that didn't d deal with Goldberg came out. I fucking love the nasty boy episode. I like had the I had the fucking pull over. I was just I was just cackling.

Orchid (56:30)
Thank you for saying so. Sure, I felt the same way.

Dan Rice (56:37)
I'm just in the car alone, just scream laughing. And I I don't know how I can get you two I don't know, this might be this might be I might be making this sexual. How can I get you two ladies to say the word nasty more often?

Orchid (56:49)
yeah, I don't that that's ⁓ yeah, I don't think that'll be too difficult. I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll figure that out. I'm sure we could do it for the the upcoming

Dan Rice (56:52)
I don't know how you duplicate it. Okay. Okay. Is there like a Ko-Fi thing? Maybe can I get can I put the nasty boys back on the wheel?

Orchid (57:01)
Sure. I mean I mean I I hated everything about watching that watching those men wrestle. So yeah, do it again.

Dan Rice (57:02)
Make you guys watch him again.

Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

Orchid (57:12)
I love them. They're the best. They were so they were so unappealing. God. Anyway.

chris (57:16)
And next week.

Dan Rice (57:16)
And and next week, ⁓ Sasha Banks, Mercedes Monet. It's gonna be good, but like those episodes are less fun. I want more episodes where it's the nasty boys. I want Colette seemed so opposed to Drew McIntyre that it finally got me to leave a five star review.

Orchid (57:31)
I appreciate that. ⁓

Dan Rice (57:32)
She spoke of him with such disgust that I was like, well, I gotta do

Orchid (57:40)
Yeah, also ⁓ I'll I'd I'll save the announcement, but booked our first guest too. I'm pretty excited about it. ⁓ I'm I'm unbelievably it's not Brian Knobbs. I I can't I can I don't want to say anything until we get into writing, but I am unbelievably excited about it. The there's one person in the Discord who will be very excited about it, and his name is Haven. So I'm super gassed about that. Hopefully that that gives a hint without revealing a lot.

Dan Rice (57:47)
Ooh. my God. Is it Brian Knobbs?

chris (57:48)
Hell yeah.

⁓

Dan Rice (57:53)
okay.

Pto (58:07)
So you got wait, you got Tim Kinsella?

Orchid (58:11)
Yeah.

Yeah, we got some casella.

Pto (58:15)
That's that's a real joke for the Havens in the audience.

Dan Rice (58:16)
I just

Mine's not as good, but I just couldn't believe that Dave Schultz replied that an email so fast. He got him booked that quick.

Orchid (58:29)
Fuck, that'd be sick. I should do that. I should reach out to Dave.

Dan Rice (58:31)
⁓ maybe so sick that not you Dave Schultz to come on the show and you're not even talking about the nasty boys anymore. Poor guy's gotta talk about Sasha Banks.

Pto (58:36)
I'm trying to I'm trying to get Cage Match I've been trying for the past five minutes to get Cage Match to show me like every Taipei deat match in the last thirty years and man, this website sucks.

Orchid (58:37)
That's a good point.

It's so bad.

Dan Rice (58:49)
I got it to give me a list of like the twenty three I said when I clicked on match type, type by deathmatch.

Pto (58:55)
Taipei deathmatch Bo Gott defeats Joey Anderson for Magnum Pro in Roalston, Nebraska.

Dan Rice (59:02)
Yeah, see that doesn't make the list when you click on it. That's a good one. That sounds awesome.

Orchid (59:07)
Somebody shoot that over to Pork, 'cause I don't think he's covered 'cause Pork's still writing, you know, that the the best match that ever happened in every state, right? Like I don't know what he has for Nebraska, but that seems like a good contender.

Dan Rice (59:14)
Yeah. ⁓ shit. Hey, right here, that's perfect segue. Right here you'll hear ⁓ Pork's review of what's that fucking match?

Pto (59:29)
The twenty twelve Royal Rumble?

Dan Rice (59:29)
No, you he sent me No, the ⁓ Miyu Yamashida and Yuki Kamafuku versus ⁓ who did they face? D Dino and ⁓ remember you guys said he gets five minutes. Who did he I can't blow it up? Yeah. So right now he s he sent it to me.

Pto (59:41)
the yeah. ⁓ yeah, yeah, it's it's type five.

Orchid (59:47)
did he s did he send you s he said you ooh

Dan Rice (59:52)
So boom, it just happened right there. ⁓ my god, excellent analysis. Just brilliant stuff from Bork.

Pto (59:56)
Well thank you, Park. I have a Dan, I have a I have a question for you since I don't I feel like I've seen the show, but I don't remember a minute of it. Tournament of Death Nine, ⁓ brain damage and Drake Younger. Was that a good type A death match?

Dan Rice (1:00:10)
I don't remember it. That sounds like it could be.

Pto (1:00:11)
I I just you know, I s I s I see Drake younger and I'm just like I gotta ask Dan, he probably

chris (1:00:12)
I'm

Dan Rice (1:00:17)
I think ⁓ I think Drake makes him swallow like he throws the glass in his mouth. I remember that gif, but like I don't remember the match really.

chris (1:00:17)
I

I I see one that Dan Dan What absolutely adore, which is from ⁓ August eighth, twenty twenty, Eddie only versus Eric Ryan in a Taipei deathmatch.

Pto (1:00:40)
Too great.

chris (1:00:43)
That's Ohio excellence.

Dan Rice (1:00:43)
Like how do I how do I choose? How do I choose who to root for in that situation?

chris (1:00:50)
I hope it's a no contest.

Dan Rice (1:00:52)
That's the only thing. They just at the end they just hug it out.

Pto (1:00:56)
Taipei sprinkles Gringo Loco defeats Dick Flair.

Orchid (1:01:02)
Sick flare? Fuck yeah.

Pto (1:01:08)
So many of these happened. I'm the I I shouldn't be shocked. It's like all of these are in I W A S. And it's like, Well, yeah, okay. This is I'm sure Ian was like, This is my match. If Axel Rotten wants to contest that, then maybe he should stop doing heroin.

Dan Rice (1:01:22)
I have I've seen the I've seen the Axel Ian one too many times because I will forget about it. I'll be like, it's not that bad. I bet I really like it. It's bad. It's not a good match.

⁓ but yeah, we got more funk and fall. ⁓ tomorrow when this is up, John Langmead who wrote Bali Who, his piece comes up and on Monday you got port.

I won't say who else is next week because I don't have ⁓ the the pieces from ⁓ everyone.

Orchid (1:01:46)
Finally.

Do I owe you a piece next week?

chris (1:01:52)
It it's it no, it's coming. It's coming.

Dan Rice (1:01:54)
No. It's Chris.

Orchid (1:01:57)
Yes. Yes. I that's the one I've been waiting for the most. No offense to everybody who's doing a fantastic job.

Dan Rice (1:02:01)
Or Orchid, your yours doesn't go up until ideally everything goes right, ⁓ November twenty third. So you got some time.

Orchid (1:02:09)
fantastic. I'll be I'll be offline playing Grand Theft Auto that week. So that's that's beautiful.

Dan Rice (1:02:15)
⁓ I will say if anyone I've this has not helped at all.

Pto (1:02:18)
I d I do think that ⁓ when Grand Theft Auto Six comes out, we all are turning on the volume like volume up on our TVs and we're all playing while we record. We're not doing we're not doing multiplayer while we record. We're all playing single player mode with like just letting our microphones pick it up as we play and talk.

Orchid (1:02:29)
That sounds fucking perfect.

Dan Rice (1:02:30)
Good plan.

Orchid (1:02:33)
I don't Yeah.

So I don't think they're launching with multiplayer, but if they are at slash when they do, that is absolutely has to be like that's for the Patreon. Like all of us playing and none of us are wearing shirts. Our cat our our our avatars are, but we're not wearing shirts.

Dan Rice (1:02:51)
It's just it's Patreon.

chris (1:02:55)
Absolutely.

Dan Rice (1:02:59)
I mean, I'm already dressed or undressed, whatever you need, however you say it.

no, once again, does anyone like Terry Funk from nineteen eight eighty seven? If you do, reach out.

Orchid (1:03:14)
When's that do? Is that due this week?

Dan Rice (1:03:16)
Let's do that's gonna that hopefully if someone wrote something for that it would go up Friday, November thirteenth.

Orchid (1:03:21)
Okay. All right. Well see what see what I

Pto (1:03:22)
you could do another movie one for that. He was in Over the Top. That was in nineteen eighty seven.

Dan Rice (1:03:27)
Yeah. I ideally I've I wouldn't be writing it.

Pto (1:03:32)
I'm just saying, you know, you could watch another movie if you wanted.

Dan Rice (1:03:35)
Yeah, I've I've seen that one before too. That won't be like a new discovery, but

Pto (1:03:37)
Yeah, that movie sucks ass. I mean it's it's it's it it's one of those movies where it's like it is very fun, but it also totally sucks ass. It's it's another Nino Extremo type movie.

chris (1:03:37)
It is a great movie. It's a great movie.

Dan Rice (1:03:41)
we got different

Orchid (1:03:41)
Sign me s

chris (1:03:48)
It's great because it sucks ass. Yeah.

Orchid (1:03:52)
I don't plan on writing Yeah, no, I'll I'll do then. I'll do it. I'll write about that. I'll write a I'll write a review for that.

Dan Rice (1:03:57)
Hell yeah. Thank you so much.

Orchid (1:04:01)
Just do me a favor and remind me if you can. Like tonight.

Dan Rice (1:04:02)
Okay. We don't I I reach out to everyone reminding them, and so far I've only been one mistaken year. That means we have all the years filled up until fucking December. Who cares about December? We'll figure it out.

Orchid (1:04:09)
Nice.

Dan Rice (1:04:17)
⁓ All right. I think that brings us to our big top. You guys ready to hear the results of the Hall of Fame voting?

chris (1:04:24)
I

Orchid (1:04:24)
now.

Pto (1:04:24)
Before we do, I just wanna say I Googled Terry Funk nineteen eighty seven matches and one of the first things is Terry Funk versus Mike Retunda and I'm just already like, All right, well fuck this. I'm not watching that.

Orchid (1:04:29)
Mm-hmm.

Pto (1:04:38)
We'll call that a lost year.

Dan Rice (1:04:39)
⁓

chris (1:04:42)
Yeah, you're mu you're much better talking talking over the top.

Pto (1:04:46)
Yeah.

Orchid (1:04:47)
Yeah, that's the plan.

Dan Rice (1:04:50)
He was also bearded that year though, he was also bearded cowboy in something called Time Stalkers that stars Klaus Kinski.

Orchid (1:05:00)
Ooh.

Dan Rice (1:05:00)
So just saying, keep your options open.

Orchid (1:05:05)
All right.

Dan Rice (1:05:05)
Okay. We last week we nominated twenty one people.

Orchid (1:05:12)
Huh? How did you nominate twenty one?

Pto (1:05:15)
'Cause Tanner got ⁓ Robert in there.

Dan Rice (1:05:16)
Because I let

Yeah, Tanner got rover. We let Tanner get one.

Orchid (1:05:20)
Wait a minute, so Tan wait wait wait wait hold on. So Tanner was allowed to nominate Rovert, but I was not allowed to nominate Tanner.

Dan Rice (1:05:25)
But you weren't allowed to nominate Tanner. First off, don't come on here and openly flaunt that you didn't listen to the episode.

Orchid (1:05:31)
I did listen to the episode but I was like working, so you know. I appreciate what you said about boiled chicken, by the way. So that was that was really cute. I love that. It was beautiful. It was beautiful.

Dan Rice (1:05:34)
okay. But yes, so twenty one.

⁓ okay. You did watch. You did listen. Okay. Okay. I was getting I was a little heated last week. ⁓ I'm about to get heated. I'm I'm gonna let to get heated this week because these results are fucking bullshit. Now to remind everyone to get into the Hall of Fame, the very serious Hall of Fame, you need to get sixty percent of the vote or more. I could be wrong. I think this is the most votes we've ever gotten. Possibly more the first time. But we got a lot of votes, I'm not gonna say the number.

Orchid (1:05:45)
I know, I could tell, I'm sorry, but we're allowed.

I I'm I ha I'll be re I'll be right back. I gotta take an anxiety because

chris (1:06:08)
There yeah, there were people like retweeting it out, posting their ballots.

Dan Rice (1:06:08)
Shadows.

It was, it's hilarious because it's like, I'm not gonna act like funk and fall like this like academic thing, but like it like the most writing we've had on the site in a long time. It's a more serious than most of the stuff Pork puts on there for us. And then it's like follow that up with like people like, what's this violent people about? And then they see our Hall of Fame where you had to vote between David Benoit and fucking G WWAD and Rovert.

Orc, are you with us?

Orchid (1:06:42)
Yeah, I'm back.

Dan Rice (1:06:43)
Okay, I didn't I don't want I didn't want you to miss any of this. So I'm gonna go through this one through twenty-one and I'll just you know, you know, in the ascending order. So with the least amount of votes, and this one hurts, with six point eight percentage of the votes, John Thorne.

Orchid (1:06:46)
I got my I got my headphones on.

Dan Rice (1:07:02)
That's that's my fault, clearly. I'm not getting the AIW word out there enough. I'm not doing the work. Sam's doing the work. I don't know who booked two CW, but I guarantee they get more than six point eight percent of the vote.

Pto (1:07:05)
You're not doing the work.

Orchid (1:07:13)
Mm.

Dan Rice (1:07:17)
⁓ and now that wasn't mine, but that was like spiritually mine. Now next in one of my nominees, WWE A D, 11.4% vote.

Orchid (1:07:25)
Fuck all of you. Fuck all of you. God

Dan Rice (1:07:27)
Sorry.

Pto (1:07:27)
How did it get eleven point four percent of the vote?

Orchid (1:07:31)
I voted a lot. I didn't, I voted once.

Pto (1:07:32)
Okay. Well that makes sense then.

Dan Rice (1:07:34)
I will say I required emails, but I didn't click the button that like it would tell me people's emails. So like it's the only limit was how many Gmails do you have?

Pto (1:07:43)
yeah, no, when I did it like it all I asked for was a name and half the people put like Pat.

Orchid (1:07:48)
Mm-hmm.

Dan Rice (1:07:48)
That's funny. Now this one I think was a timing thing. I think if this started this week, he would have got more points with 15.9% of the vote. Actually, we have a three-way tie, but with 15.9% of the vote, Brian Knobbs.

I really think that if this came post patron saints, he would have done better.

chris (1:08:08)
Absolutely.

Orchid (1:08:09)
I love it there's a three way tie at 15.9. That's fucking hilarious.

Dan Rice (1:08:12)
Yeah, I didn't realize so I'm I'm I'm reading this right now. So the other two Brian Nobb this is a fucking this is a trio. I'd like to hang out with these guys on a Saturday night. Brian Knobbs, David Benoit, and Orange Crush.

chris (1:08:27)
Stream blunt rotation.

Dan Rice (1:08:29)
Just there it is.

Orchid (1:08:31)
It might have happened already, and pr I prayed any woman that is around that specific situation.

Dan Rice (1:08:39)
I can't imagine there's women around Brian Knobbs.

Orchid (1:08:42)
Well, unfortunately I can

Dan Rice (1:08:47)
God. All right. ⁓

Pto (1:08:48)
I mean, you gotta imagine, like, he's hanging out, you know, in like Hogan's tool shed in Clearwater, Florida all day. He's surrounded by women. It's just like the quality of the women is reflective of the fact that he's Brian Knobbs.

Orchid (1:09:06)
You just like walk into Hulk Hogan's tool shed, which is an incredible thing to think about on the Hogan estate. ⁓ and there's just a smelly man with his pants down at his ankles, his ass all spread wide, asking you if you want a garden hose.

Pto (1:09:20)
Just launching a football out of it.

I I actually I since I have I haven't had a chance to listen to Patrons, did you get into ⁓ Brian Knobbs, the supporting character on Hogan Knows Best?

Orchid (1:09:27)
Hope you should

Yeah, a tiny bit. Yeah, collect talked about in a bit. Not not in detail though.

Pto (1:09:37)
Okay, good, good. That I mean the important stuff from his career is there.

Orchid (1:09:42)
We didn't cover his man versus food appearance, which I'm I I'm I'm very angry at Clude about.

Dan Rice (1:09:50)
This one, 18.2%. I'm so sorry, Pat. Page.

Pto (1:09:55)
The fuck y the people who listen to this and vote and these things are so goddamn stupid.

Orchid (1:10:01)
We love you guys. Thanks so much. We do this for you.

Pto (1:10:03)
Eat shit.

Dan Rice (1:10:04)
I think this is funny. With right above Paige with twenty point five, so a little more than one fifth of the vote, Bruce Hart. I can't believe Bruce Hart did better than Paige.

Pto (1:10:15)
Yeah, and the the thing is Teddy Hart would have done better than either.

Dan Rice (1:10:20)
Now we have another three way tie at twenty two point seven percent of the vote. ⁓ first, I believe winning the promoter, you know, getting the most of any promoter in this book or in this list, Brett Lauderdale.

chris (1:10:36)
He's back.

Dan Rice (1:10:36)
Also, MMA Legend Magumi Fuji and Rock Legends Drowning Pool.

Pto (1:10:36)
That's too high.

Orchid (1:10:46)
Whoa wow I I quit again. Unbelievable. Phew.

Pto (1:10:52)
That they're that they're that high or that they should be higher.

Orchid (1:10:55)
I thought I I thought I thought that was great work on your part nominating them.

Pto (1:10:58)
I thought Drowning Pool was gonna get in. I thought they was gonna be a squeaker, but I thought they were gonna get in. Yeah, Maryland Manson, no chance.

Orchid (1:11:01)
Sho I thought they were shoeing. But

Dan Rice (1:11:02)
I thought Marilyn Marilyn Manson, no chance. And then you did then when you pivoted, I thought, here we go.

Orchid (1:11:09)
It was so good. So good. So good. The classic Pat switcheroo.

Dan Rice (1:11:15)
⁓ twenty seven point three percent of the votes. And this is the worst thing that happened involving this guy in any recent memory. El Hiode Fishman.

Orchid (1:11:25)
My god.

Dan Rice (1:11:26)
What do these people want?

What do they want?

Orchid (1:11:32)
I'm dominating Bandito, Speedball Mike Bailey, and the inside of fucking Brody King's dies next fucking go around. I'm gonna pander these fucking morons.

Dan Rice (1:11:43)
Guys, man. ⁓

Orchid (1:11:46)
No, you're not yeah, yeah, you're right, yeah, f yeah. No.

Dan Rice (1:11:51)
twenty nine point five.

Yoshihiku.

Pto (1:12:00)
Yeah.

Dan Rice (1:12:00)
What just happened?

Pto (1:12:02)
That was me zipping up a jacket because I'm hanging up clothes while we record this. No, no, that was that was that was the zipper on my post office fleece. I for No, I forgot to mute the phone, sorry.

Dan Rice (1:12:05)
I thought were doing a line.

I was like, Man, usually he really he really hit him hard. He's like, I need the

You're fine. ⁓ thirty one point eight percent is Greg Valentine.

Orchid (1:12:25)
My god.

Dan Rice (1:12:27)
thirty-four point one percent we have Mike Awesome. Fucking idiots. This one I thought would do better. Carlos Cologne, only thirty-six point four percent of the ballot.

Sorry, I gotta pop up there. All right, all right. ⁓ another, because they just hate people. I'm gonna get these next two are tied, and of course they are, because

Pto (1:12:51)
The Mike the Mike Awesome one is making me mad. Like I I do have a question for the three of you. Do you think that people still respect Mike Awesome? Do or do you think he's kind of fallen by the wayside, like, reputationally?

Dan Rice (1:13:07)
No worry.

It feels like should.

Orchid (1:13:10)
I don't think I don't think I don't I I think there I think this is not a good reflection. I I think that if there was any subset of fans that I I thought would have the decent taste to respect Mike Austin enough to put him in a hall of fame, it'd be the three hundred or so illiterate autistic freaks that make up our Discord. Because in circles outside of this one

Pto (1:13:37)
There aren't three hundred of them, they just post so much that it's equivalent to if three hundred people were posting.

Orchid (1:13:41)
Mm-hmm.

Dan Rice (1:13:45)
Ha ha.

Orchid (1:13:48)
Yeah, no, I think outside of this circle, ⁓ I I've I've read a lot about how bad of a worker he is.

Pto (1:13:55)
Yeah, I mean that that's it

Dan Rice (1:13:55)
What do we what do you think what do people think that word even means?

Pto (1:13:58)
And it's it's like I do kind of wonder sometimes, do people think like that Tanaka carried him? Which is patently absurd to my face. I yeah, that's the thing. I've I feel like that's I don't know, maybe this should be the new yearly argument everyone has. You know, the Kurt Angle argument is played out. Now we need the Mike Awesome argument.

Dan Rice (1:14:05)
I bet people have said that.

Orchid (1:14:20)
I will I'm gonna go check in. You know the guy who nominated Trish Stratus for viol for Patron Saints six times? Every w yeah, every week he messaged me messages me and is like, Hey, do you think this is the week? And I have to be like, No, Marty, it's not. I'm gonna go check in. He's a freak. He's like five foot two. ⁓ I have phone calls with this guy. I have phone calls with this guy frequently. I do.

Dan Rice (1:14:27)
Yeah, that that normal guy?

Pto (1:14:41)
That is freakish.

Dan Rice (1:14:44)
You have phone you have phone called with them?

Orchid (1:14:47)
I too, I too. He's one of the many men in my life who often like, Hey, I wanna chat with you and and then just talk to me about wrestling for forty five minutes and then I'll appease.

Dan Rice (1:14:54)
I don't this is so unfair. I'm insanely jealous right now.

Pto (1:14:58)
I know, Dan, my reaction is like, I'm glad Orchid does this so that these people don't come anywhere near me. I'm like, Orchid, continue being my shield.

Orchid (1:15:09)
Any day, babe. That's what yeah, these are all people from the Observer. Yeah, he's from the Observer board. So ⁓ let me check in what he has to say about ⁓ wait, he just gave me criticism. he see he wished we talked more about nasty boys versus Foley and and ⁓ Max Payne. Thanks, Marty. Thoughts on Mike Awesome?

Pto (1:15:13)
my god.

Orchid (1:15:32)
Okay. I'll let you know. He'll probably respond in like three minutes.

Dan Rice (1:15:34)
With forty point nine percent of the vote, we have a two-way tie, which means that sixty-nine point one per wait, is that math right? No. Fifty-nine point one percent of people that voted are fucking racists. Rooch and El Hio de Santo.

Pto (1:15:53)
I feel like I should have done my because I held off on voting. I'm like it's not fair if I vote. But now I'm getting angry and I'm like I should have just voted.

Orchid (1:16:00)
come on, Pat.

chris (1:16:03)
Yeah, I should have voted twenty times. This is

Dan Rice (1:16:08)
Ken Shamrock is next, guys. Ken Shamrock, who is in one of the most popular posts in the history of the site, does numbers every single month, still, despite no new injuries, could only manage to get 43.2%.

Pto (1:16:29)
Mm-hmm.

Dan Rice (1:16:32)
I re remind you, you need to get sixty or higher to make it the Hall of Fame.

Pto (1:16:35)
Yeah, I'm I'm getting mad now. I'm I'm bawling up my little fist.

Dan Rice (1:16:38)
I'm gonna go ahead and tell you, I'll just do it in I'll do it in alphabetical order here. The three remaining men, just to remind you, are Mick Foley, Rovert, and Shinya Hashimoto.

Pto (1:16:51)
Well, of them only Rovert deserves to be in, so

Dan Rice (1:16:56)
Coming up next, speaking of rover at forty seven point seven percent.

Orchid (1:17:00)
⁓ really?

Dan Rice (1:17:02)
He died for their sins and this is what they do.

Orchid (1:17:05)
I you know, I I I I know. I came in anticipating getting angry that he got in and now I'm angry that he's not.

Dan Rice (1:17:08)
I thought he was gonna walk in.

chris (1:17:08)
They're fallen later.

Dan Rice (1:17:20)
Well that's beautiful.

Orchid (1:17:25)
Fuck you, mom. This is what happens. This is what happens we have a codependent Irish mother who who who refuses to go to therapy.

Dan Rice (1:17:28)
This and this is just

is this was his chance too. Like this is post death. I can't imagine next year Rovert's going in.

We're not gonna unearth any old rovert tweets. Maybe we will.

Okay, and there's been a lot of discussion on ⁓ Mick Foley, the hardcore legend, who's been nominated at least once, maybe twice. I think this is his third time on the ballot. And again, you need sixty percent to get in. Mick Foley got fifty nine point one percent of the votes.

Orchid (1:18:07)
I am actually angry. I it was a bit I am like

Dan Rice (1:18:10)
When I open this up, he was at the whole time when I was watching it, he was at, he would just like people it would like someone vote for him, then they wouldn't. He was at like sixty-five, fifty-five, si like he was bouncing back and forth over and behind the line. And when it ended at fifty-nine point one, couldn't believe it. Mick Foley.

Cannot get nominated. I will say

I did correctly play the game and knew that if I nominated the serious Japanese legend, I would he would get in. Shin Hajibojo seventy point five percent.

Orchid (1:18:46)
That's crazy.

Pto (1:18:46)
All right, so let me let me let me tell you a story about ⁓ when I was delivering the mail the other day. ⁓ I go up to the front door and they have a storm door in front of the the main door. So the storm door is shut and there's a little dog sitting in there just looking outside at the world. I start walking up the walk and the dog sees me and starts yapping up a storm, just barking like crazy because hey, someone's walking up to my house.

Dan Rice (1:18:46)
So one

Pto (1:19:15)
and I hear the dog's owner inside the house, you know, must have looked and seen me coming too, and yells at the dog, Be quiet, don't be a stereotype. And that's what I want to say, if like, you know, to all the people who made it so that the only person who got in is Shinya Hashimoto. Like, stop being a stereotype of the like, vote for Drowning Pool, have some fun.

Dan Rice (1:19:41)
I adore Hashimoto. I wanted him get in. I never thought he would be the only one to get in.

Pto (1:19:51)
I think we should make it so that we can only have one Hashimoto in the Hall of Fame. If people want Shihiro or the better child Daichi in, they have to take Shinya out.

Dan Rice (1:20:04)
We'll we'll have to come up with a mechanism to vote someone out of the Hall of Fame. We don't currently have that in the bylaws.

Pto (1:20:09)
Well w we just do it Benoit style.

Orchid (1:20:09)
wait, but Dave Dave Yeah, yeah, exactly. We there's there's a tried and true formula by by by somebody whose name I absolutely know how to pronounce. We'll just follow that.

Pto (1:20:20)
You do a referendum and then when people continue complaining about it for ten years just say, Well, the voters have spoken, it's not my fault.

Dan Rice (1:20:29)
All right, I can do that.

Orchid (1:20:31)
Have you guys been enjoying him and Cornet going at each other? It's like watching two like like dementia patients at a nursing home fight over a piece of like sponge cake. It's fucking delightful. Like which one is more brain rat like brain ridden?

Dan Rice (1:20:41)
I

I sent a ⁓ a group text to a married couple who are both like in like one's in the early seventies, one's a little a little older than that. And then they didn't understand and they started just talking to each other all day. As if it was like just the two of them in the text. And it has similar vibes to that.

Pto (1:21:11)
I don't know man, just thinking about Dave Meltzer and Jim Cornet going at one another, I'm just kinda like I don't know, maybe I maybe I could do something else other than watch wrestling.

Orchid (1:21:24)
Well, I mean I I mean, you know, keep keep it up at this pace, you know.

Pto (1:21:26)
I I could I could f I could go back to playing Cyberpunk or something. Like I you know, I could deal with the the freaks in that community instead for a while.

Orchid (1:21:37)
Three more weeks and you gotta go back to the normal community of Grand Theft Auto players.

Pto (1:21:41)
man, I cannot wait.

Dan Rice (1:21:47)
But yeah, to recap, Hashimato got in and you guys suck.

Pto (1:21:53)
Do you think if someone had nominated Charlie Kirk he would have gotten in?

Dan Rice (1:21:59)
actually thought I've I've actually I've got a little bit of like I don't know if it's survivor's guilt, I don't know you phrase this. I ⁓ I thought what if I didn't nominate Hashimoto? What if I made a what if I did a bad choice? Like a more like would that have, you know, helped bump up Foley, bump up Robert. Maybe get a single goddamn man of color in this Hall of Fame.

Orchid (1:22:04)
What the fuck?

Dan Rice (1:22:21)
We'll never know.

Pto (1:22:23)
Yeah.

Orchid (1:22:24)
What wait, what w di di D did you just I just want never mind, Dan. I love you so much. That was beautiful.

Pto (1:22:30)
No, she knew Hashimoto's white.

Dan Rice (1:22:31)
Wait. Yeah, sh that's w he's whiter than I am. He's got sideburns.

Pto (1:22:34)
Look at his haircut, man.

Orchid (1:22:44)
Ha

Dan Rice (1:22:46)
You guys want to answer some fucking questions?

Pto (1:22:48)
If we have to, sure.

Orchid (1:22:49)
Not not for this fucking no, not for this lot.

Dan Rice (1:22:52)
Don't worry, there are a fucking lot.

Orchid (1:22:55)
Before we get to I I just did Can you all just go and look at the VP update section and just sort of find the thing that I unearthed that Marilyn pointed to? Cause it I can't I can't get over it. My brain's broken. I know

Pto (1:23:12)
my god.

Orchid (1:23:18)
I that's it's very I'm I'm horrified. I don't like it.

Pto (1:23:23)
I don't like this.

chris (1:23:25)
They're multiplying.

Pto (1:23:32)
This is this is ⁓ okay, so we gotta can we trick this person into posting like a polymarket affiliate link?

Dan Rice (1:23:46)
Then get rovered on their ass.

Pto (1:23:47)
Yeah, exactly.

Dan Rice (1:23:50)
He was on it. He messaged me right away. I was like, can I ban this motherfucker?

Orchid (1:23:57)
We did, right? We banned that guy.

Dan Rice (1:23:59)
I I think we're over to yeah.

Pto (1:24:06)
Which is I isn't that the second time that guy got like run off the server?

Dan Rice (1:24:11)
I someone said that. I didn't remember the last time, but I believe I believe you guys.

Pto (1:24:14)
I feel like I feel like he's a guy like right when I joined, you know, the server was still pretty young. And like that evening he got run off for like posting weird stuff about women's wrestlers. ⁓ but it might just be that like, you know, the name ⁓ Larry or whatever, I mean, it's not a very creative name, so I don't know if that's two people independently coming up with the same bit. Who knows?

Dan Rice (1:24:41)
Okay, well you guys are lucky because I tried to change my username to Katie Parker seven three five five five, but I don't know my password. So fuck there.

Orchid (1:24:48)
Yeah.

Pto (1:24:49)
Well you just said your password.

Dan Rice (1:24:56)
I don't know why it's not fucking saved. This is a bullshit. This is bullshit.

Pto (1:24:59)
Did any of you ever listen to that guy's podcast with the polymarket? Yeah.

Orchid (1:25:00)
Yeah, you

chris (1:25:02)
No.

Dan Rice (1:25:02)
Doctor Lariat?

Orchid (1:25:02)
Yes, I did. I listen I I listened to it for three minutes and ⁓ to try to be supportive of somebody else and almost blew my brains out. and ⁓ that was around the time I decided that we needed a riverside for our podcast.

Good work on

Pto (1:25:22)
Yeah, thank you for inspiring us.

Orchid (1:25:24)
Mm-hmm.

Dan Rice (1:25:25)
Around the time you decided what?

Orchid (1:25:27)
That we needed better audio quality.

'Cause I don't want to sound like that.

And now you have something to do once we stop recording. You gotta fix it in post.

Dan Rice (1:25:41)
I I love fixing an unpost. I can't wait for next week when I get to play with the fucking castle freak audio.

Orchid (1:25:42)
Yeah yeah.

Dan Rice (1:25:51)
Wacky line, wacky line.

I had to I I had to scroll back because I was I was in the settings trying to change my fucking username. question for the podcast. Who's your favorite character in a bioware game?

Orchid (1:26:06)
Shinyhashimoto, you fucking losers.

Pto (1:26:06)
Mm.

Dan Rice (1:26:09)
Shit.

Pto (1:26:11)
Give me a second 'cause I forget what bioware made. I know they made Mass Effect.

Dan Rice (1:26:17)
Dragon Edge.

Pto (1:26:18)
I'm going to say ⁓ Viconia DeVere from Baldur's Gate two.

chris (1:26:19)
Totor.

Dan Rice (1:26:26)
I don't know. One of the fucking people from

Pto (1:26:27)
they made Dragon Age Veilguard. Okay, they deserved to go out of business. That came blue.

chris (1:26:35)
HK forty seven.

Dan Rice (1:26:44)
yeah, I guess I don't know, someone from Knights of the World Republic. I don't know.

Question for the podcast. What do you guys think about gender nihilism?

Orchid (1:26:54)
Haha.

Big fan, personally. Yeah, that's just me.

Dan Rice (1:27:04)
You're a big fan.

Orchid (1:27:12)
Did I talk about on an episode that like in therapy I said that like wrestling podcasting is is part of like like it's like one of my purposes and like how horrible that made me feel. Cause that yeah, yeah, that

Dan Rice (1:27:26)
I don't think so.

Pto (1:27:27)
And then the therapist like spat out their sandwich.

Orchid (1:27:32)
My therapist is surprisingly interested in learning about Joshi wrestling, which I and probably should be a sign that I need a new therapist.

Dan Rice (1:27:39)
Yeah, that ⁓

⁓ I would say I'm just like a medium fan, not a big fan. Pat, how do you feel?

Pto (1:27:53)
You know, if people want to be nihilistic about their gender, I'm gonna ascribe myself to gender optimism. But I I ⁓ more more gender cautious optimism.

Dan Rice (1:28:02)
That's be that's actually a beautiful.

Orchid (1:28:02)
Aw

chris (1:28:06)
We need to spread gender joy.

Orchid (1:28:09)
Somebody tell Ducky that.

Dan Rice (1:28:11)
my god.

Pto (1:28:12)
No, don't don't tell Ducky anything.

Dan Rice (1:28:16)
I don't think Ducky has room for any more information. She's learned it all.

Pto (1:28:19)
I feel a little bad that Ducky is like away at college and you know, s theoretically having like formative experiences of their young life and everything. They're posting on like the fucking violent people Discord. I'm like, no, you should be going and like getting lit while driving a car.

Orchid (1:28:20)
That's that's not good.

Mm

Dan Rice (1:28:39)
Well, yeah, you know what? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Pto (1:28:40)
Not not in a bad way, but in in a way where you're building memories with your

Dan Rice (1:28:44)
Ducky, sometimes sometimes you can drive better when you're drunk. That's what they don't tell you.

Pto (1:28:47)
It's true. It's true. Especially at night. Sharpens your senses.

Dan Rice (1:28:53)
Tell you what, you won't you won't be stressed about it at all.

this next question comes from DeMar DeRozan.

You ever just sit in a dark room and feel like the darkness is the only thing that truly understands you? No fake smiles, no false hope, just raw, bitter silence.

chris (1:29:16)
Every damn day, brother,

Pto (1:29:18)
Is that is that gender nihilism or is that just regular?

Orchid (1:29:23)
That would just be regular nihilism.

Pto (1:29:25)
Okay.

no, I I I usually have the lights on.

Dan Rice (1:29:28)
Wait, I wait sorry, no fake smiles, no false hope, no genders, just raw bitter silence. I skipped over that, that's my bad.

Orchid (1:29:38)
I gotta go check was he like playing this night? 'Cause like the preseason was happening when that

Dan Rice (1:29:45)
You gotta check his stats of that night. It was that's a cr that's a crazy tweet at two fifty three PM.

Orchid (1:29:51)
I love that because you know Demar DeRosen has been public about dealing with his y his mental health struggles. Some would call him the hangman Adam Page of the NBA. ⁓ in that regard.

Dan Rice (1:29:59)
Which

We've we've been pretty adamant that like that's not real, right?

Like mental health nihilists. No such thing as any of this.

Orchid (1:30:12)
So you're I mean, I think if I didn't know what he was talking about.

Dan Rice (1:30:13)
Just go just just just ⁓ I I believe what I believe the quote I believe Tanner, just shut up and dribble.

Pto (1:30:13)
I thought you were talking about the NBA.

Hey, speaking of ⁓ problematic things to say, when at the start of Necro vs. Nino, you know, he's like trash talking and he yells boy at Nino and he puts him stank on that. And I was just kind of like, ⁓ man, I don't like this. He's wearing a he's wearing his Confederate flag title belt, calling calling someone boy. I'm just like, this is No.

Dan Rice (1:30:30)
⁓

Orchid (1:30:34)
Yeah.

He really did.

Dan Rice (1:30:39)
It just it did not feel like the first time.

⁓ question for the podcast: if you were in charge of a cinema for Halloween and got the show three movies for a marathon, which movies would you pick?

Anyone got any good?

Pto (1:31:10)
So ⁓ wait, do they have to be Halloween themed or is it

Dan Rice (1:31:13)
It seems like you just carte blanche.

Pto (1:31:16)
Okay.

Scary movies. Let's see what I got on my D V D shelf. We're gonna

chris (1:31:23)
Yeah, scary movie one, scary movie two, and scary movie three.

Pto (1:31:26)
you know what I can do? I can just ⁓ one of my big paper shopping bags full of vinegar syndrome discs. Let me we're gonna do this ⁓ by just grabbing shit. No okay, my cat wants to attack me while I'm trying to do this. It's great audio, thank you, amigo. Did any of you just hear the cat whapping my headphone as hard as possible?

Orchid (1:31:43)
Let me go.

Dan Rice (1:31:51)
Did not come through.

Pto (1:31:52)
Okay. So here we go. Okay, scary movie number one is going to be Beastmaster.

⁓ scary movie number two is going to be none of these are scary movies, that's the problem. I seem to have found a bag full of not horror movies.

Alright, yeah, Shall We Dance? Terrifying. Okay, so this one is called Ruby. It is a love affair with the supernatural. Then we have the movie Sleepless by Dario Argento. And then ⁓

Is this a Dario Originto movie too? The Resurrected. So there you have Ruby, Sleepless, and The Resurrected. That's my three from looking for scary movies in a paper bag full of Blu-rays.

Dan Rice (1:32:50)
Chris, you got three for us?

chris (1:32:53)
I said scary movie one three three.

Dan Rice (1:32:55)
you did, okay. Orchid.

Orchid (1:32:58)
Nah, I get I need your answer before I answer.

Dan Rice (1:33:04)
I'm gonna do the the recording of everything that just happened as the opener.

No, I don't know. I'll do I'll do the birds, the mist, and the shining. The three does.

Pto (1:33:20)
All right. So Google does not have a definitive AI overview answer for what is the scariest porno.

So I'm kinda at a loss here. Google really hung me out to dry. ⁓

Dan Rice (1:33:41)
If you're looking for the scariest intersection of pornography and horror, I'd nominate The Devil and Miss Jones, nineteen seventy three.

Pto (1:33:48)
Not really scary, I've seen it.

Dan Rice (1:33:52)
Sorry.

Pto (1:33:54)
I mean it's it's you know it's not really sexy either, to be honest.

Dan Rice (1:34:01)
Yeah.

Orchid (1:34:04)
go with Salem's Lot, the TV adaptation, Occult. ⁓ I think what would that be like? Two thousand nine? I don't know. Around there. The Japanese Heart, found footage horror movie. ⁓ and National Treasure too, Book of Secrets.

Dan Rice (1:34:24)
Beautiful. Q for the P sorry.

Pto (1:34:26)
AI thinks a Serbian film was a porno, so we gotta get rid of the super intelligent true, true.

Dan Rice (1:34:31)
Depends on how you watch it.

you for the pee. What is mystery science theater? I don't really get it.

Pto (1:34:42)
That sucks for you.

Dan Rice (1:34:44)
Yeah. If this feels like yeah, it's pork. I said this feels like a like a child asking us.

Pto (1:34:50)
Yeah.

Dan Rice (1:34:51)
I just don't f I feel like I get it like Mystery Science Theater doesn't work in twenty twenty six. I agree.

Pto (1:34:56)
Yeah, I've watched some of the new ones and it just doesn't

Doesn't do it. But the old ones, I mean, you would think Poric would of all people would love the idea of just spamming bits as hard as possible while watching something.

Orchid (1:35:15)
You would. I I just heard back from Marty. ⁓ Marty quote ⁓ he thought ⁓ Mike Austin was great against Hayabusa and Masado Tanaka. So so another one for the Martman. Another one for the Martman. Another one for the Martman. I really want Marty in our Discord, but like he's so pure. I and I think I'd get very defensive. No. That's a different Marty.

Pto (1:35:16)
Is that

chris (1:35:26)
I agree.

Dan Rice (1:35:27)
I agree with Marty.

Pto (1:35:34)
This isn't that Marty, is it?

Dan Rice (1:35:48)
Q for the P. I don't know. I lost it. Question for the pod. If you were a playable character in a fighting game, what would your home stage look like?

Pto (1:36:00)
It would look like the street they lived on in the adventures of Pete and Pete.

chris (1:36:07)
It'd be the center of the universe, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Dan Rice (1:36:11)
Beautiful. That's beautiful. Orchid? ⁓

Pto (1:36:13)
The you know, the the Brewer's victory parade is something I can easily imagine as a street fighter stage.

chris (1:36:21)
We'll we'll see if it devolves into one tomorrow.

Pto (1:36:25)
We can only pray.

Orchid (1:36:30)
I mean, I feel like the obvious answer for me is a wing stop. But like I do think it'd be funnier to like, I don't know, if it was like somewhere in Staten Island, ⁓ like maybe like the beach where I like saw a a a dead dog walk wash up on the shore when I was four years old, which is a great metaphor for living growing up on Staten Island. Yeah, I'm gonna go with that. Yeah, I'm gonna go with that.

Dan Rice (1:36:52)
I would probably make mine discovery code.

Question for the wacky line. This is from Tanner, future guest of the podcast.

Question for the wacky line, how many pillows?

Pto (1:37:08)
You know, Def Jam Def Jam the the Def Jam fighting games did have some Staten Island stages.

Orchid (1:37:14)
They did. Yeah. Like it would be like Wu Tang related, right? It might shock you to learn this, but I grew up in a completely different part of Staten Island than the Resides ⁓ Mm. Okay.

Pto (1:37:17)
Yeah, yeah, of course.

No, I think they're all the same.

Dan Rice (1:37:29)
I have an issue with the second part of this question. ⁓ maybe I don't know, maybe this is like I'm showing my privilege here. ⁓ question for the wacky line: how many pillows do you have in your bed? And question and do you think it's too few or too many? What take care of that second part? If it's too many, really easy to take care of it. If it's too few, just go get another one. ⁓ Sam wants an addendum of how many people slash being sleep in your bed.

Sam's trying to get in our business, is what it seems like.

chris (1:38:00)
Yeah, that that sounds like that's almost as personal as Taco Bell orders. I'm not comfortable answering that.

Orchid (1:38:07)
Ha ha

Pto (1:38:10)
I have three pillows on my bed. ⁓ but it's they kind of shift around because I I only sleep using one of them, but I use the others to like prop myself up if I'm sitting. And one of them my cat sleeps against. So

chris (1:38:12)
I also have three.

Dan Rice (1:38:15)
I guess I have

chris (1:38:24)
Yeah.

Orchid (1:38:28)
I almost said the meanest thing that I've said in a really long time. So thank you, Tanner. No, never, never, never.

Pto (1:38:33)
It better not be about my cat.

Good, good.

Dan Rice (1:38:39)
I have five pillows and I feel that's the exact right number. I would change it if I didn't.

Pto (1:38:42)
That's ⁓ no, that's insane.

The fuck.

Orchid (1:38:47)
Well you don't know how many people are in the bed with him. That's the other thing. Like it could be you know he

Dan Rice (1:38:49)
It's it's it's it fluctuates too. It's when you said beings, that really fluctuates.

Pto (1:38:51)
I think I think if you have enough people where five starts sounding reasonable, you need to switch like a BYOB pillow situation.

Dan Rice (1:38:58)
It's it's two, it's two it's like two on each side, and then there's one that just floats and the it floats wherever you want it. That's our floater.

Orchid (1:39:07)
Wait, two on each side of what? Your head?

Dan Rice (1:39:10)
Like two on each side of the bed. Like there's two here, like boom, boom. There's two here. Yeah. And then there's a fifth one that's at the foot that's like whatever anyone wants, free reign.

Orchid (1:39:12)
I'm excited about it. yeah, yeah, yeah okay, okay, okay, okay.

Pto (1:39:13)
I

The perfect the perfect cap to this would be we find out Dan has a twin size bed.

Dan Rice (1:39:21)
It's a it's actually it's like smaller than a twin, it costs more to make, but I just wanted to make sure it was as small as possible.

Pto (1:39:27)
Dan has a like a a futon that he folds out and puts five pillows on.

Dan Rice (1:39:32)
Just it makes it hard to get on without falling off, but worth it. Orchid, let's hear your ⁓ pillow situation.

Orchid (1:39:39)
⁓ I got ⁓ well there's only one other person in the bed with me. ⁓ one other being. I don't let the cats in. ⁓ and pillows. No, no, I'm allergic. So like I mean I need some fucking yeah, I need some sembl like some escape from ⁓ I think they're usually now are we counting body pillows as pillows?

Dan Rice (1:39:46)
You don't let the cats in?

all right. All right.

Orchid (1:40:02)
Okay. So then at any given time there are six pillow six pillows on the bed. ⁓ but there I would say at least double digit. There are double digits like pillows in the house for us to rotate between.

Pto (1:40:16)
Have any of you ever tried one of those side sleeper pillows?

Orchid (1:40:21)
Yeah. Yeah. Not not a f

Pto (1:40:21)
I I have one and I like it a lot, but it's also like the fastest discoloration I've ever seen on any pillow ever. Like you know, there's always kind of a certain amount of wear into air just from like, you know, sweat or like wet hair or whatever, ⁓ staining a pillow underneath the pillowcase. This one just like turned yellow from exposure to air.

Orchid (1:40:27)
Yeah.

I gotta show you the the the pillow that I got at recommendation from a gastroenterologist, like when I like my acid reflux was at its worst, cause it is one of the most fucking unhinged things, especially like like in terms of like, you know, like having another person in the bed with you. ⁓ let me let me put it in the in the in the founder's chat. Cause this thing is fucking nuts. What essentially is it's like a big wedge that you s could put your arm through. And then there's like a

Pto (1:41:10)
Yeah, that is

Orchid (1:41:13)
It's nice, right? It's fucking unhinged. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And yeah, and that pillow that pillow is that pillow is J-shaped. So it basically like wraps around like your shoulders. ⁓ yeah. And and my wife loved no, not at all. It's fucking nuts, obviously. but my wife loved the body. ⁓

Pto (1:41:14)
Yeah. Th that's a big shoe. He just gave you a big shoe with a pillow on it.

Did it work?

No.

Yeah. Imagine tossing and turning on that.

Orchid (1:41:42)
Yeah. Yeah. And you can't. You're just locked in place. Like, you know, you d you might dislocate your elbow, your shoulder if you just

Dan Rice (1:41:45)
I am N Now you're married, but if I went to a girl's house and she had on the bed, I'd be like, This is too much for me. Too you're too advanced for me. Have a good night, ma'am.

Orchid (1:41:56)
Yeah, this is the sort of you don't you don't bring this in early in the relationship, right? Like this is like the relationship has been established and you're like, babe, I need to bring a fucking six foot like block of cheese into the bedroom.

Pto (1:42:04)
Yeah, this is

Dan Rice (1:42:06)
It's like, are you comfortable with the amount of room in the bed? Would you like it to become drastically smaller?

Pto (1:42:07)
This is a

Orchid (1:42:11)
Ha ha

Pto (1:42:11)
No, this is a couple of steps past like, okay, I have a CPAP machine.

Orchid (1:42:16)
Yeah. Little bit. Little bit. I think it was like th No, no, move on.

Dan Rice (1:42:19)
This next one's an e ⁓ sorry. Well, this next one's an easy yes. Can we crucify Tanner live in the ring at VP Produce?

Pto (1:42:30)
I don't think it would sell any tickets.

Dan Rice (1:42:33)
I don't think he's gonna show up.

Pto (1:42:34)
Yeah, yeah, that no, I mean Tanner, Pat Tanaka, Potato, Potato.

Orchid (1:42:42)
He is gonna be watching Castle Freaks with us though, right? Like he did say that. He did say he could do Tuesday.

Pto (1:42:45)
Yeah, he says a lot of things. By the way, did you get did you all see that fucking Pat Tanaka got booked or got dropped by his like booking agency? And the craze the craziest thing to me I was just like Pat Tanaka has a booking agent?

Dan Rice (1:42:57)
It's very funny.

Pto (1:43:05)
Like if you told me how do you book if you asked me how do you book Pat Tanaka in twenty twenty six, I'd like, I assume you just get his phone number and say, Do you want two hundred dollars?

can't imagine like being a booking agent for like Pat Tanaka and Greg Valentine and whoever actually makes you any money.

Dan Rice (1:43:26)
I can't also it there's no way it takes you like take that much time out of your day.

Orchid (1:43:31)
To be Pat Tanaka's booking agent.

Dan Rice (1:43:32)
Feel No, it feels like you could just add that to your workload and be fine.

Orchid (1:43:36)
Yeah.

Dan Rice (1:43:39)
this one this one seemed to make Pat mad for some reason. What's your favorite My Chemical romance song?

Pto (1:43:48)
I don't know. Did they do any covers of songs I actually know?

Dan Rice (1:43:53)
You called it abuse.

Pto (1:43:55)
Yeah. I don't want to have to think about

They covered Desolation Row by Bob Dylan for the Watchmen soundtrack and I'm already just like, All right, I checking out. I don't care anymore.

Dan Rice (1:44:11)
I never say that's your favorite, I was like, That's wild. yeah.

Pto (1:44:18)
I don't know. When my chemical romance happened, it's just it was one of those things where I observed it from a distance but was just like, Yeah, I'm okay. And then I you know, it's possible that I've heard a song without realizing it, but I could not even hum you a single song of theirs.

Dan Rice (1:44:38)
I mean I I was into ⁓ I don't know. I feel like my answers are gonna be like boring, like yeah. I don't I don't know. I'm not okay. ⁓ ghost of you, like boring answers.

Pto (1:44:41)
Well you've still got the haircut.

And the bracelets.

I'd I I assume they did like Am I right in assuming that they wore like the the fucking ⁓ color guard like major jackets but also still had like the thick leather wristbands?

Orchid (1:44:51)
So you

Dan Rice (1:44:58)
Yes.

Yes.

Pto (1:45:05)
Okay. That's I mean, that's kinda like exactly what I imagined and I'm just I'm good.

Orchid (1:45:12)
Now so Dan though, from based on that con those two answers, I'm assuming that you it sounds like you're a three cheers for sweet revenge girly more than you're a black parade girly. Does that feel fair? God, I love you so fucking much. You're the fucking sexiest man in the world. I love you. I fucking adore you. It's so fucking great.

Dan Rice (1:45:21)
that's that's fair, yeah. ⁓ I got I can tell you I c I could tell you I could tell you the exact room I was in at church camp when I first heard ⁓ Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge.

Orchid (1:45:35)
I'm not a yeah. Hell yeah. Fucking yeah.

Dan Rice (1:45:37)
It was it was it was monumental in my life.

Orchid (1:45:42)
So I really I'm a little disappointed from last week y'all's answers about Blink182. I was expecting like a like a a a few more answers from one like when they were still a good band. So I have to answer that question. It's carousel one A one B is waggy. ⁓ but my answer to this question is Helena. ⁓ like like by a landslide. That's it's it's a great song.

Pto (1:46:08)
My answer for Blink one eighty two was damn it, were they not a good band for Dude Ranch? When's the cutoff?

Orchid (1:46:13)
no, that's a good c that's a good point. That's a good point. No, that's a good point. That's like that's probably the cutoff. It's probably dude ranch.

Sorry, Pat, I should never have ⁓ No, you deserve better. Yeah, you and you deserve better.

Pto (1:46:22)
No, I just I just I gotta I gotta stand up for my boys, my fellow UFO enthusiasts.

It's so awesome that the Blink one e two guy like, All right, my mission in life is to prove UFOs are real.

Orchid (1:46:37)
Somebody's gotta do it. The hemp

Pto (1:46:38)
That that is the kind of just pivot in life I can really get by. It's Steve Albini deciding, like, you know, I'm just gonna become a poker player.

Orchid (1:46:48)
You'd probably be pretty good at poker.

Pto (1:46:51)
Steve Albini, he was great at poker. Yeah, no, that I I wasn't making shit up. He was like he legitimately was like, Okay, this is my hobby. I'm gonna fixate on this. He played in World Series of Poker. He did pretty well.

Orchid (1:46:53)
was he?

⁓ yeah. Now I remember that. Okay.

Dan Rice (1:47:07)
Now, you say that about blink one a two. You do have to admit that take off your pants and jacket is a very funny joke when you're in sixth grade.

Orchid (1:47:17)
Yeah, it is. And I mean it's that's that's not a not a bad album. Not a bad album. I love every time I look for you. Just

Dan Rice (1:47:19)
Like that that was huge. Yeah. You changed this now, guys. Chris, do you have a favorite ⁓ MCR song?

Pto (1:47:22)
I just now got it.

chris (1:47:33)
Probably Helena as well. Like I'm not a I'm not a huge head. I'd really just know the singles. I'd never really got into them, but like some of those singles are good. I like Helena. I like I'm not okay. I like Teenagers.

Dan Rice (1:47:49)
Teenagers is good.

Orchid (1:47:49)
I like Cemetery Drive too. It's a pretty good one. I like I

Pto (1:47:52)
You know who I did like? I I'm gonna I'm gonna, you know, say the horrors are probably the English My Chemical Romance. I really love their song Sea Within a Sea. So if that counts as an answer

Orchid (1:48:02)
Mm.

chris (1:48:02)
that song that song rips.

Orchid (1:48:09)
I remember like it was a weekend in like two thousand and when did this album come out? Two thousand five. I think I saw ⁓ I think I I'm pretty sure I saw Block Party one night and then I saw Mike Hemical Romance at Warp Tour like three days later.

Dan Rice (1:48:22)
yeah.

chris (1:48:24)
Block party now that's a band.

Orchid (1:48:26)
Fuck me, those that first album ⁓ were old.

chris (1:48:29)
Yeah, that's a bit that's a band for one album.

Pto (1:48:32)
I'm I'm gonna go for that was a ban for one EP.

Orchid (1:48:32)
Yeah, well maybe one point five.

That might be true too. Yeah.

Dan Rice (1:48:38)
I need you guys to talk about your favorite Sum Forty One song for at least three minutes. I'll be right back.

Orchid (1:48:45)
⁓ have y'all ever listened to ⁓ Fat Lip while watching footage of the towers falling?

Pto (1:48:53)
No.

chris (1:48:54)
Nope.

Orchid (1:48:55)
Great bit. Could recommend it enough.

Pto (1:48:56)
Does it d is it like a a Wizard of Oz? ⁓ it sinks up kind of thing or?

Orchid (1:49:02)
In a way. In a way.

Pto (1:49:05)
Was that who had the music video where the guitarist's head gets really big? Was that some forty one or was that Newfound Glory?

Orchid (1:49:15)
It sounds more like a newfound glory thing.

Pto (1:49:17)
I just remember s there was a music video where like for some reason the guitarist goes into like big head mode from NBA jam.

Orchid (1:49:31)
Anybody else got any like th some forty one c content for them?

Pto (1:49:34)
I don't know. I mean some forty one is like something where I'm just kinda like I was in high school for when some forty one was a thing. So in theory I would have been the audience for it. But I'm just kinda like, Yeah, I guess that happens, sure.

chris (1:49:51)
I'll say I'll say makes no difference.

Pto (1:49:56)
I'm gonna say that ⁓ it just takes a little time, little bit, little bit song that they did.

Orchid (1:50:02)
Little bit.

Pto (1:50:06)
My favorite Some Forty One song is my own worst enemy.

chris (1:50:12)
Hi, I'm ego.

Dan Rice (1:50:14)
I don't know.

Orchid (1:50:14)
What was what's the first line in that song? That guy had a voice.

Wait, no, I'm I just got fucking Newfound Glory and and Michael Lagramas confused too. I'm thinking of my friends over you.

Fuck I'm drunk on your kiss for another night in a row. This has been gonna tea for me. But

Pto (1:50:39)
It's a flawless impersonation of how I imagine all of these guys sound.

Orchid (1:50:43)
⁓

Dan Rice (1:50:46)
Yeah, I like fat lip too. ⁓ cue for the pat.

Orchid (1:50:48)
Mm. That was a lot more a lot more painful than I anticipated it was gonna be. Which is crazy 'cause we all like each other.

Dan Rice (1:50:53)
What's your favorite song?

What's your favorite song featured in the film Twenty Four Hour Party People?

Orchid (1:50:57)
Two for the pig.

Pto (1:51:02)
shit, I meant to look this up. ⁓ give me a second. It vamp for a second while I look up the master list of what's in there.

Dan Rice (1:51:08)
Assume this is a very long porno, and I'm pretty excited to Google it. I have not.

Pto (1:51:12)
Have you not seen 24-hour party people? Go fuck yourself. That's first of all, like fix that.

chris (1:51:15)
You should watch twenty four hour party people. That movie rules.

Orchid (1:51:21)
It is on I I haven't seen either. It is on my watch list. I do know what it is. So maybe that should be another should we watch that together or is no because you guys have seen it.

Pto (1:51:25)
It's if I still paid atta if I still paid attention to my letterboxed account, I'm pretty sure it's still in my top four.

Okay, I'm I'm just on IMDb scrolling through all the song 'cause there are a lot of songs in it.

Orchid (1:51:48)
What are you guys gonna be for Halloween?

Pto (1:51:50)
I'm gonna turn.

Dan Rice (1:51:51)
Okay, I bought a minions costume, but like the crotch is so low.

Orchid (1:51:56)
That's sick. I'm gonna be a waffle.

Dan Rice (1:51:57)
So I gotta get

You're gonna be a waffle? Chris?

Orchid (1:52:02)
Mm-hmm.

I don't know what kind yet.

chris (1:52:07)
I'm I'm look also looking at the

Pto (1:52:08)
What you don't know what kind of waffle?

Dan Rice (1:52:11)
Yeah, you it right.

Orchid (1:52:11)
I have two I have two different I got a s I got a I got a Belgian and I got a I got a regular old circle one. I haven't picked I haven't made up my mind yet. I got really excited. We're going trick or treating with a three year old. I can't wait.

Dan Rice (1:52:17)
You have two waffle costumes?

Okay, I'm glad you said with the three years. I'm like, you're not I don't think you're allowed to do that.

Orchid (1:52:28)
It's transphobic.

chris (1:52:34)
I'm going to be a disgruntled barista.

Dan Rice (1:52:37)
Hell yeah. man.

Orchid (1:52:37)
Aww. So different than your usual.

Dan Rice (1:52:43)
I don't my my my boss has like they did this big trunk retreat by my house that like fifteen hundred people go to, but my boss has a table at it. So she lets us sneak in the back door and get right to the front of the line and it was a fucking glorious time.

Pto (1:52:43)
All right, all right. It's

Alright, I've got it I've got it narrowed down. ⁓ it's gonna be a tie, 'cause it it has to be a tie. It's going to be digital by Joy Division and Belfast by Orbital.

Dan Rice (1:52:59)
Sorry, Patton.

Orchid (1:53:10)
Mm, mm, mm.

Dan Rice (1:53:16)
All right. This next one's a pretty good one. Who's this from? The Simon. This is a Simon hit here. Cue for the pod. What's your favorite tree? Not kinda tree, a specific tree.

chris (1:53:28)
Learning tree, Chris Jericho.

Pto (1:53:28)
⁓ across from my parents' house growing up there was a huge tree that not only like took up a lot of someone's lawn, it also took up a lot of the sidewalk. to the point that the sidewalk just kind of interrupted to make room for this giant tree.

So I think that's the tree I think of the most fondly.

Dan Rice (1:53:57)
My family growing up had like a sheep farm and at the very top of the highest hill was like this giant fucking I don't know why this is funny already to you.

Orchid (1:54:07)
I'm just well because I I I mean like it it's it sometimes when you talk about your past it's it almost feels like a like a a prequel to Heat Hillbilly elegy.

Dan Rice (1:54:17)
It's a f don't do that. Don't fucking say that shit to me.

Pto (1:54:18)
I was thinking it sounded like he was about to I was thinking more like, Okay, so Dan then went on a quest with Bilbo Baggins and Mary and Pippin.

Dan Rice (1:54:28)
It was just it was you what, fuck you guys, it's just a big white oak and I liked it. What's your favorite orc orchid?

Orchid (1:54:33)
Stroke thought by Dr. Pepper. Yuki Kamafuku.

Dan Rice (1:54:39)
That's a tree I'd like to climb. ⁓ and I might in Dayton.

Orchid (1:54:46)
If everything goes away I I wanted to, that's what will happen.

Dan Rice (1:54:49)
Q for the P if I were to replace those holy draws with eco-friendly bamboo based moisture wicking and comfort underwear, what can I do to get fifteen percent off?

What am I- what am I reading?

Pto (1:55:05)
You're reading ⁓ from the the fucking polymarkey guy.

Orchid (1:55:10)
This week's Violent Peoples was Dan's trailer park.

Dan Rice (1:55:15)
I wish. ⁓ anyway you guys know how I get some poly market credits. ⁓ and then how do you market poly? I've been trying to every girl.

Orchid (1:55:28)
I just like I I can't I don't underst I don't know why, but Dan, I assumed you were like a freelance like ⁓ like realtor. I didn't realize that you had a boss and the fact that like you report to somebody like fucking horrifies me. Do you like do you have Okay. Okay.

Dan Rice (1:55:28)
⁓

Well, no, here's the issue. I don't because it's like I don't have like office hours. I just if I it's I just have a broker. I've thought about we must have sort of thought about being our own brokers, like one of us being a broker. But the problem is it's kind of nice to have a boss that doesn't really like like we pay her, but that's pretty much it. Like we but if there's an issue, we just go, that's the broker's issue. Or the broker takes care of that, or where are the well, we don't I don't have any like I don't have documents in my house where she has like

Orchid (1:55:47)
Okay.

Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Nice. Yeah.

Dan Rice (1:56:08)
filing cabinets full of shit that gets audited three times a year. So that's really the that's the point. I don't I don't want someone coming looking through my filing cabinets and being like, hey, you didn't you don't have the fucking you have the agency disclosure form, but you don't have the buyer's agency ⁓ representation form. So now you have to find it immediately or get a fine. Like I don't want to deal with

Orchid (1:56:11)
Mm. yeah. No.

And and why do you have an entire folder ⁓ of men's trunks with the name Orso on the back of it?

Dan Rice (1:56:34)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like those kind of questions I can't be can't be asked.

Pto (1:56:38)
Thing is, those are probably bootlegs 'cause his trunk says savant on the back.

Orchid (1:56:43)
Fuck. Good point.

Pto (1:56:43)
So Dan, you got ripped off, bud.

Dan Rice (1:56:46)
Are you kidding me? I paid a bad amount of money for those. Fuck. A bad amount, Pat.

Orchid (1:56:46)
⁓ fuck.

Pto (1:56:50)
A bad amount of money. I don't know why that that one got me.

Hey, I have a question for anyone who listens to this fucking massive podcast. sound off on the Discord. If you have any good ideas for ⁓ getting a kind of mildewy smell out of moisture wicking ⁓ like workout shirts, because I've got a Nike dry fit shirt that is I keep washing it. I've tried soaking it in vinegar and baking soda. ⁓ I'm trying to get the the stank out of the shirt.

And it's really making me crazy. So if anyone has any ⁓ radical ideas for how to fix that, that isn't just buying a new shirt, let me know.

Dan Rice (1:57:39)
Question for the pod, which illicit substance would be the most fitting to use during a VPR recording?

Orchid (1:57:46)
Chris?

chris (1:57:50)
I'm mostly hidden that weed pan.

Orchid (1:57:55)
Mr. Answer, yes.

Dan Rice (1:57:57)
There you go. I feel like if we all did that, this thing might get off the off the hen off the hinge, off the hook, I don't know, off the rails, something. ⁓ question for the podcast. Well, right now it's like fucking a tight. It's a tight, well performed show. Question for the podcast. Which Mr. Man or little mischaracter do you most identify with tonight? Let me pull that up real fast here.

chris (1:58:17)
Little Miss Sunshine, obviously.

Dan Rice (1:58:28)
I like this. I'm I feel like I'm I'm all these at least at least once a day, one day a week. ⁓

Orchid (1:58:38)
Little Mr Little W little Wally.

Dan Rice (1:58:38)
⁓ shut the fuck up, Orchid. You're Mr. Tickle and it's fine.

Pto (1:58:47)
I feel like Mr. Busy more than I'd like to be.

Dan Rice (1:58:48)
Why I'm

Little miss busy, that's why we had to start late.

Orchid (1:58:53)
⁓

Dan Rice (1:58:58)
How much Coke could Mr. Nosey do during a VPR record? I mean, they last a long time. So it's kind of like what what is how what kind of what kind of man is Mr. Nosy, you know what I mean?

Pto (1:59:11)
I think that's more of a question of ⁓ what's Mr what's his finances like?

Dan Rice (1:59:21)
I I could do Coke if I didn't buy those trunks. ⁓

Pto (1:59:24)
It's you, Mr. Nosian Necro Butcher in the hotel room bardian.

Dan Rice (1:59:28)
The the red roof in.

Next question, what are your thoughts on Brent Albright? I know we all have him.

Pto (1:59:43)
I don't.

Sorry.

Orchid (1:59:52)
do me a favor, if you DM me at ⁓ either ⁓ Kathy Parker seven three five zero or Kathy Parker seven three five three, I'll I'll tell ya.

Dan Rice (2:00:04)
Wait, that's who asked the question? No, it's Amen.

Orchid (2:00:07)
No.

Dan Rice (2:00:12)
⁓ I saw I there's like a there's a Chris Hero Goshiazaki versus ⁓ Brent Albright Roderick Strong match I saw live that really like. That I talk about my friend really liking how hard Goshi Azaki hit and asking why there's not more like Asian men that hit white boys really hard.

Pto (2:00:32)
Wait wait a bit wait a minute. I just realized I was thinking of Gary Albright. W who's Brent Albright? Which one's he?

Orchid (2:00:32)
I'm I'm currently looking at a

Dan Rice (2:00:37)
He he was maybe gun or something in WWE. He had the matches with s like Adam Pierce and Ring of Honor and then CM Punk and OVW.

Pto (2:00:49)
Okay, so still no thoughts then.

Orchid (2:00:49)
He's got what Yeah, there I'm looking at a I'm looking at a one hour and forty seven long ⁓ video of him and CM Punk in Ohio Valley wrestling and I I don't I don't know if I could be less interested in something. I'm sorry, Damon, I love you, but

Dan Rice (2:00:52)
Okay.

Do you like Seth Skyfire? He'll be in those. Kendone, he'll he'll he'll he'll pop up. He'll pop up in some event. Yeah. I think they do like they they wrestled so much in OVW. There's like a 30 minute Iron Man match. They fucking they just go it's like CM Punk being like, I can go long in W two. ⁓ they go longer than thirty, I think. I don't know. And some of these, I thought.

Orchid (2:01:12)
So much. I grew up with Seth Scott. Grew up with that guy. I know all these people.

I'm not gonna lie, this clip looks clip looks pretty yeah, this clip looks pretty rad. I don't know. Maybe I maybe ⁓ put

Dan Rice (2:01:36)
⁓ yeah, I mean I vaguely

Pto (2:01:37)
Isn't that wasn't baby Shawn Spears bouncing around in that too?

Dan Rice (2:01:42)
Yeah, I don't know if he was involved in that feud, the bunk the punk Albright feud. But that was when Heyman was booking and people were like, this is the fucking this is the good shit.

Orchid (2:01:56)
He looks really cool. In what I'm watching.

Dan Rice (2:02:01)
Like physically he looks cool.

Orchid (2:02:04)
Yeah, like he's got like a he kinda look look kinda looks like doctor Doctor Death in the face and like a like a like a a a poor man's benoit in the body.

Dan Rice (2:02:14)
I mean he that that was kinda his deal was poor man's Benoit. But like if you're gonna be a poor man something, Benoit's you there's worse things Benoit.

Orchid (2:02:17)
Yeah, that's fuck.

Great r great wrestler, bad person.

Dan Rice (2:02:26)
He ⁓ Brent looks like seventeen dudes I know though.

what are what dangerous or illegal items are you adding in the candy for trick or treaters this year?

This this feels like a trap. You're not catching me.

Pto (2:02:45)
I'm just giving them awful candy. I'm just like, here kids, you want some black licorice?

Dan Rice (2:02:48)
You know, I've never really lived at a house. I'm lying, I for for a couple of I did. Mostly I've never lived at houses where people really trick or treat them much. And I'm always and now I'm always out with my nieces and nephews. So I've never really spent much time handing out candy or poisoning people.

Orchid (2:02:56)
I know, it's it's broke my heart.

The first time like I lived on my own was in ⁓ a a a fucking a one bedroom or or a two bedroom first floor apartment ⁓ behind the community theater in Epping, New Hampshire. And me and my roommate got really excited and probably spent like four or five hundred dollars on ⁓ like decorations, including like a well lit path to our house.

got zero trick or treaters. The next day we found out the guy who lived there prior to us was a registered sex offender. So that was

Dan Rice (2:03:34)
That's funny. somebody on Facebook, like the local Ashland, Kentucky Facebook, posted like a an AI image of like a list of all the registered sex offenders' addresses in this list. It says, like, avoid them on Halloween. But like it has a lion and it says like lion pride, which is Boyd County. We're Ashland, we're Tomcats. And so all the comments, they're not about the pedophiles. It's all like, dude, why the fuck is there a lion on there? Should be a Tomcat.

It's like 40 comments of people getting really upset about that. I have like the exact same story. Me and my buddy Matt, we moved in this apartment. They explicitly said, Hey, everyone, you know, be sure to decorate your door if you want trick-or-treaters to come. We have trick-or-treaters that come up and down all the floors. And I'm like, fuck yeah. Hell yeah. We decorated our door, bought a lot of candy. One girl showed up like 90 minutes into it and we gave her all the candy. We're like, you can just have all this.

Pto (2:04:29)
So I've got someone near me who already has all of their Christmas decorations up, like whole hog, Christmas lights, fucking giant inflatable light up Santa, giant light up Rudolph. And I really want to know what it like what happens when someone trick-or-treats at this house. Like, does this guy commit to the bid enough to hand out candy canes?

Dan Rice (2:04:52)
That's good.

Pto (2:04:52)
See that that's what I would if I was that kind of insane person who's like, It's October twenty something, Christmas decorations go up now, that's what I'd be doing. I'd like, you know, fuck your stupid Halloween thing. Have this fucking Christmas present, you dumb kid.

Dan Rice (2:05:09)
Now this next question, I think maybe we might have been asked this before. Can you guys let me know? Why are there German this is from Dokomoy, why are there Germanic types who didn't even discover the new world acting so high and mighty?

Orchid (2:05:10)
Keep the

Pto (2:05:20)
Ha ⁓

I saw that tweet and I was just like, Thank God wrestling fans are never gonna be normal.

Orchid (2:05:35)
The dark underbelly of racial dynamics.

Pto (2:05:38)
This person's doing like a racial tier list of AEW and not like of like the white guys in AEW.

Orchid (2:05:47)
and they're Japanese, it looks like.

Pto (2:05:50)
It's such a

Orchid (2:05:51)
I know this guy. This guy just got kicked off the observer message board for threatening to kill himself.

Pto (2:05:56)
Ha ha ha

Dan Rice (2:05:58)
Whoa, is that the policy? Is that is that the how they handle that every time?

Orchid (2:06:03)
I I feel so une yeah, okay, I I I I it would take so long to tell that story and I ⁓ I I eagerly await doing it, but tonight's not tonight.

Pto (2:06:16)
That's the big top for next week while we're watching Castle Freak.

Dan Rice (2:06:16)
I'm gonna mark that down.

You gotta get into it. ⁓ this one's from ⁓ Tanner. Q for the P. Forced to go to Saudi Arabia or forced to be on the Jericho cruise?

Orchid (2:06:19)
Yeah, I'll do it then. Yeah, absolutely.

Pto (2:06:32)
Well, do you wanna die of a missile attack or just die of HPV?

Dan Rice (2:06:40)
Did you guys hear about that ⁓ like that cruise, that forever cruise that kicked off all the senior citizens living on it? That fucking rules.

Pto (2:06:44)
Yeah ⁓

Orchid (2:06:45)
Yeah.

Dan Rice (2:06:49)
but I would take I ⁓ I'd take the Jericho Cruz. I'm really I'm I'm probably gonna probably gonna be on it anyway.

Orchid (2:06:52)
Dan, if Dan, if me and you were on the Jericho cruise when I was still like engaging in in substances, I I they would throw us the fuck overboard. I can't even imagine the bullshit that me and you would get into. my god.

Dan Rice (2:07:06)
never been on a cruise because I'm so sure that I would actually unironically fucking love.

Orchid (2:07:13)
I've been on I went on two when I was two when I was seventeen. I'm pretty sure that's where all my substance abuse like issues started. I was time of my life.

Dan Rice (2:07:13)
Some like

Pto (2:07:21)
I went on one when I was a little kid and I remember it being fun, but like everything I read about the environmental impact of all these cruise lines just makes me feel really it would be like it's like finding out like, you know, this shampoo works because they sprayed it in dogs' eyes to make sure it didn't kill them. It's kinda like, I you know, I don't know.

Plus, I mean, with the people who are liable to go and cruise, like, I don't want to be on a cruise of fucking Dan Rice, come on.

Orchid (2:07:53)
Which which wrestler would you most want to be stuck in an elevator with on the Jericho cruise?

Dan Rice (2:08:00)
Well now I have to pull up the Jericho Crude, who's on it?

Orchid (2:08:02)
No, no, just name a wrestler. It doesn't have to be like the real like for it's ma it's man's. I want to be an elevator I wanna be stuck in elevator with man's. Yeah.

chris (2:08:07)
Yeah, it's the mancer. He knows he knows how to he knows how to have fun.

Pto (2:08:10)
No, w I want a wrestler where it's like I can have a crazy story that I can eat out on. ⁓ like imagine being stuck in close proximity and having to converse with like Shelly Martinez for an hour.

Dan Rice (2:08:11)
my god.

Lindsay Ellis just did like a YouTube video about how how awesome cruises are.

But no, I I think I mean yeah, me and man, mean me, Mans, and Orchid on a cruise. Leave that leave leave that bitch Steph at home. We'll be having a fucking hell of a time. this one, Minta asked this the other day, other week, but where do we agree to have the violent people con next year? Need to book my flight and hotel.

Orchid (2:08:42)
⁓ man.

chris (2:08:59)
Center of the universe, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Pto (2:09:02)
Well, I was going to suggest the hemp.

Dan Rice (2:09:02)
Yeah. I will say don't go ahead.

Pto (2:09:06)
My suggestion is we have to connect it to our proud fan culture history and hold it at the Hampshire Dome in Milford, New Hampshire.

Orchid (2:09:14)
That's fucking let's fucking go. Yeah, that's that's my vote. Let's fucking do it.

Pto (2:09:16)
Yeah, baby.

Dan Rice (2:09:18)
Please, please, please do not book a hotel yet. I'd love to try to get a block of rooms.

Orchid (2:09:23)
Mm mm.

Dan Rice (2:09:25)
Just subdue this smart, you know? All right.

Orchid (2:09:28)
Yeah, you you'll get us a deal.

Dan Rice (2:09:31)
Did I tell you guys my scam for ⁓ pay to state of play tier competitions this year?

Orchid (2:09:38)
It can can you boy. No.

Dan Rice (2:09:41)
You guys I tell you okay, I'll tell you guys later, I guess it's a good scam, but all right.

this one's good. who is who is number one in your hierarchy of whites?

Orchid (2:09:49)
Ha

Pto (2:09:58)
⁓ Jay White, leader of the cut.

Orchid (2:10:03)
That's that's that's your favorite white?

Pto (2:10:05)
I guess, I don't know. ⁓ The what were the the what was that fucking movie? The Whites of West Virginia? I'm trying to think of people named Whites.

Orchid (2:10:13)
That's a good one.

chris (2:10:14)
Jack White.

Dan Rice (2:10:14)
I guess. See, my first thought was I thought we were getting I thought we were ranking races and I was gonna say Germanic, but

Orchid (2:10:20)
okay. You cut out, thank God.

Dan Rice (2:10:25)
It's gonna come through when people listen to it, so

⁓ my god.

Chris, what what are who are your favorite whites? What are your favorite whites?

chris (2:10:40)
Jack White.

Pto (2:10:42)
Jack White and his brother Dana.

Dan Rice (2:10:43)
Orchid.

And Orchid, you said what you said Swedes or something?

Orchid (2:10:55)
I said Betty.

Dan Rice (2:10:57)
She's dead. ⁓ question for the pod. If you had to wear a cowboy hat or a French beret every day for a year, which would you choose? I I feel like I could just if I start wearing a cowboy hat, people would just be like, yep, there it goes.

chris (2:11:12)
Bright.

Orchid (2:11:15)
I mean I'm wearing a cowboy hat my profile picture in the server.

Pto (2:11:19)
So I think I would enjoy the beret more, but I think for practicality purposes I would have to go with the cowboy hat just because I'm already wearing a wide brim hat at work every day to keep the sun off of my terrible rosacea skin. So the cowboy hat would be more useful to me.

Orchid (2:11:40)
I gotta be clear, I'm imagining all three of you.

Pto (2:11:40)
I would I would look like an absolute dipshit though. I would look like every Irish guy wearing a cowboy hat.

Orchid (2:11:46)
You'd look great. I'm imagining all three of you in both and I gotta tell ya, I like what I say.

Dan Rice (2:11:52)
The quarterback for my nephew's eighth grade football team, which is only three wins away from winning state, he he puts on a cowboy hat after every game. So the only time he wears a cowboy hat, he walks out of locker room. ⁓ he's the coolest motherfucker alive.

Orchid (2:11:57)
Let's fucking go.

That's so fucking cool.

Dan Rice (2:12:08)
Like I am so jealous. When he w the first time I walked him walk out of the walker room went, ⁓ fuck, that's why he's the quarterback. I get it.

Orchid (2:12:14)
Ha ha

There goes my hero, watch him as he goes.

Dan Rice (2:12:21)
we have a real I don't I shouldn't even speak this into existence. Feeding the boys Texas Roadhouse, but the game's 1 p.m. So we're feeding it after the game. So we don't have a big heavy meal, and I'm terrified they'll lose. I was like really awkward. They're like crying and sad, and we're just eating like, here's your sirloin, eat up. but that's not gonna happen. They're gonna win. So Q for the P. this is pork. I can already tell. I have a $40 million. Pitch me a film idea.

Orchid (2:12:33)
Mm.

Pto (2:12:55)
Yeah.

Orchid (2:12:55)
We can s we sh we should talk about this next next week. Next week. We should talk about this next week. It's late.

Dan Rice (2:12:55)
I need more money than that. I need way more money than that for what I got planned. Well that maybe that could be a big top on one of the future ones, you know? I feel like we've answered this one before. Favorite candy. ⁓ you're

Orchid (2:13:03)
that's good.

hold on. I I have an idea I'm so sorry. I have an idea. I I I can't believe we just glossed over this. It's it's a great screenplay. It's called A Boy Name Magic. The Boy Who is Magic. And it's that's it. Jesus Christ. With my good Facebook friend.

Dan Rice (2:13:17)
⁓ yeah, I'll just send you that I'll send you the script right now.

my god, it's so good.

chris (2:13:27)
Yeah, make this happen.

Dan Rice (2:13:27)
Okay, this ⁓ and apparently I believe he really Pork really has forty million dollars.

If they don't, they're a liar and they're probably worse than the polymarket guy. ⁓ this next one I need to clarify something you guys. I feel like we've answered this before, but ⁓ for real this time. Q for the P, favorite candy?

Orchid (2:13:36)
Bold money.

Dan Rice (2:13:50)
Is like a Snickers or a Twix, is that candy? Okay. Okay. I just didn't know if it was chocolate was c and candy were different.

chris (2:13:53)
Candy.

Orchid (2:13:53)
Yeah.

What?

Dan Rice (2:14:02)
I some people they they they think Candy's just like Sour Patch Kids, gummy bears, ⁓ I don't know. Other things like that. Starburst. All right.

Orchid (2:14:09)
What the fuck? Shut the fuck up. Fucking Almocetaslar?

Dan Rice (2:14:16)
my god, not again. I already bleeped out that other one earlier.

Orchid (2:14:17)
Yeah.

Dan Rice (2:14:21)
What is everyone's favorite candy then?

Pto (2:14:24)
⁓ I'm just gonna say Twix, I don't know.

chris (2:14:27)
Tit tap.

Dan Rice (2:14:28)
Weeks are really good.

Orchid (2:14:30)
Peanut bar

Dan Rice (2:14:32)
I my answer might really be Twix, but that's boring. So I'm say so I'm gonna say Reese pieces.

Orchid (2:14:37)
Mm-hmm. Yep.

Pto (2:14:39)
You know, they make they make the Reese's big cup with the Reese's pieces inside. And I don't know why, like I'm like, this is good, but I can't eat one of them without also feeling like I just ate a Reese's big cup with Reese's pieces inside. Like fuck my stupid life.

Dan Rice (2:14:40)
⁓

Orchid (2:14:48)
Shit.

Dan Rice (2:14:48)
I yeah.

That's so funny. I would say I ate one one time and it felt like it took me out for the whole day. I mean, I'm a fat piece of shit, but that was too much. That was like a lot.

Pto (2:15:07)
It just it just makes me feel like, Okay, so I guess this is what I'm doing with my life now. I'm eating like candy inside other candy.

chris (2:15:16)
Yeah, you eat that and you feel like you automatically just get a pinwheel in your hat and you're wearing a a pinwheel in your hand and you've got a propeller hat on.

Pto (2:15:26)
It's like if if you remember the Burger King Quad Stacker, it's like that for candy.

Orchid (2:15:31)
⁓ God.

Dan Rice (2:15:34)
my god, the quad stacker. Those were the days.

Orchid (2:15:36)
Man, I still think about her. Still think about her.

Pto (2:15:39)
I used to know someone who swore by the hangover cure of eating two quad stackers every day, and it should not shock you that this guy had a heart attack in his thirties.

Orchid (2:15:49)
though you're say it was Ricky Shane Page.

Pto (2:15:50)
I mean no, I I think if Ricky Champage like if he could still afford to eat a Burger King, he would. But

Dan Rice (2:15:59)
I Ricky Shaping Page is straight edge and then like imagine looking like that and not drinking.

Orchid (2:16:04)
That's sick.

Pto (2:16:05)
That's just what menopause does to you, man.

Dan Rice (2:16:08)
⁓ I can never remember if I can never remember if he really is or if he just yelled at me one time when I was drunk. Like I don't remember what the origin of that is, but I'm gonna go with that. Yeah. ⁓ this is our last question, and it's it's it's a lot. It's from Marilyn, who is supposed to be on the show this week. Forgot to forgot to send it a link. ⁓ she wants to be invited on more podcasts, doing a tour of sorts. What is your favorite little Debbie snack cake? And which one would you shove up Jerry Sag's ass?

Pto (2:16:16)
Yeah, you might have been getting worked by the master.

Orchid (2:16:32)
Ooh.

I didn't read the second part of this question. I was really excited.

Dan Rice (2:16:42)
Well, can I ask you guys something real quick before we get into the second part of the question? Do you guys feel that they have gotten worse?

Pto (2:16:48)
They have.

Orchid (2:16:49)
Yeah, they have. Yeah, yeah, they have.

Dan Rice (2:16:49)
Okay, okay. I was discussing, and someone said you're just getting older, like you have a more refined palette. I was like, first off, no, I fucking don't. Secondly, like they taste worse.

Orchid (2:16:55)
No. I that

Pto (2:16:58)
Yeah, I mean they're just cutting corners on the chemicals they put into them. You know, my nephew is obsessed with Christmas tree cakes. So I feel like I'm obliged to say Christmas tree cakes just out of solidarity, though if you if you

Orchid (2:17:08)
is it good?

Dan Rice (2:17:12)
Has he had the Christmas tree cake nutter butters?

Orchid (2:17:17)
Mm. Mm-hmm. Wow. Ooh.

Pto (2:17:17)
I don't think I've ever seen those. We get the the regular Christmas tree cakes and then we get the chocolate ones. And personally I like the chocolate ones better.

Orchid (2:17:27)
I didn't know they came in different flavors.

Pto (2:17:27)
But the Christmas tree nutter butters. I've never

Dan Rice (2:17:27)
The I literally the nut or butter is they're they're hard to find. They're hard to find. ⁓

Pto (2:17:32)
I it's har it's fucking hard to find the regular Christmas tree cakes. There's like one supermarket here that has them out of and I live near a lot of supermarkets. I'm in a metro area.

Dan Rice (2:17:40)
See, we have we have lots of the regular. The chocolates hard to find. Harder still, Christmas tree brownies, but the hardest is the nut the nutty. I think they call them like the North Pole nutty buddies. They're delicious. They actually might be my favorite. ⁓ and I guess I would probably shove like a like a oatmeal cream pie up Jerry Sag's ass.

Pto (2:18:02)
yeah, I forgot we were doing that one. ⁓

Orchid (2:18:05)
Just wait, do do you mean nutter do you mean nutty buddy? Nutter butter?

Dan Rice (2:18:07)
What am I saying? That's something different. Yeah, I mean nutty buddy.

Pto (2:18:10)
Yeah, I wanna put my nut or butter in Jerry Sags' ass. Or whiche whoever, whichever nasty boy.

Dan Rice (2:18:14)
Did I ever tell you guys the difference between jelly and jam?

Pto (2:18:19)
No, jelly and jam are the same thing.

Dan Rice (2:18:21)
okay, never mind then.

chris (2:18:26)
best is ⁓ zebra cake. and I'm shoving up ⁓ fudge round.

Dan Rice (2:18:31)
Good answer.

I wanna say a cream pie jerry sag, that's what I'm trying to do.

Pto (2:18:38)
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say ⁓ we put the fig bars up his ass. Try to get something at least theoretically nutritious in there.

Dan Rice (2:18:51)
Orchid?

Orchid (2:18:52)
⁓ this is like asking me to pick my favorite kid. ⁓ I think I I think zebra cake is probably like gun to my head. Last one I'm eating. That's probably what I'm gonna pick. But it really just depends on my mood, the season. I love the birthday cakes. I love the I love the Valentine's Day ones. Those ones are fucking delightful. When I was a kid, it was it was definitely Cosmic Brownie. I was like, Cosmic brownies in buttercrunch for my go-to bodega snacks.

Dan Rice (2:19:14)
⁓

I used to shove all of the little candies on top of the cosmic brownies to one corner so my last bite would just be fucking all of them. Yeah.

Orchid (2:19:26)
I love that. That's so smart.

Pto (2:19:27)
Just crack a tooth.

Dan Rice (2:19:34)
What are you shoving up Jerry Sag's ass though, Orkin? We can't end the show until you say that.

Pto (2:19:38)
Wait, is it knobs or sags? Who's whose ass are we doing?

Dan Rice (2:19:41)
No, we're shoving it up Sag's ass.

Orchid (2:19:43)
But I don't have we seen Sag's ass? Is I thought it was Nobb's going in blind. Mm. I'm gonna go with spin wheel a pecan spin wheel. A little a little off the cuff there, yeah. You don't even expect that, were you?

Pto (2:19:46)
Yeah, that's that's

Dan Rice (2:19:46)
No, so you you're going you're you're going in blind.

Pto (2:19:49)
Okay. Hmm.

Was it Sags who like got into like the shoot chair shot thing with Scott Hall?

Dan Rice (2:20:03)
Yes.

Orchid (2:20:03)
⁓ yes.

Pto (2:20:04)
Okay, thank you.

Orchid (2:20:07)
Welcome.

Dan Rice (2:20:08)
You you would know that if you listen to the painter and say it's of six tons of bitches.

Pto (2:20:11)
I listen, I'm a busy guy. I'm Mr. Busy on the the little character chart.

Orchid (2:20:16)
Ha ha.

Dan Rice (2:20:18)
Pecan spin wheels are my least favorite, if we're doing least favorite, by the way.

Orchid (2:20:23)
Yeah, easily.

Dan Rice (2:20:23)
Can only imagine after what they what Orca's done to him of how much I hate him.

Okay, things like us.

Orchid (2:20:34)
Yeah, how going? How's it going? Miss Y'all.

All Pat and Chris, get to bed. Love you all meet.