Subscribe
Share
Share
Embed
STARTS AT 10PM ET: Join me for an important discussion with director Chris Burgard.
Watch the film: https://thewarontruthmovie.com/
To learn more about investing in gold visit - http://goldwithseth.com, or call 720-605-3900
For high quality storable foods and seeds, visit http://heavensharvest.com and use promo code SETH to save 15% on your order.
Save up to 66% at https://MyPillow.com using Promo Code - MAN
LISTEN VIA PODCAST:
Apple: https://apple.co/3bEdO1S
Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3u9k8Vd
Podbean: https://bit.ly/3A4Jasy
iHeart: https://bit.ly/3npOBea
FOLLOW AND WATCH:
Website: https://maninamerica.com/
Telegram: https://t.me/maninamerica
Truth Social: https://truthsocial.com/@maninamerica
Banned.Video: https://banned.video/channel/man-in-america
Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/ManInAmerica
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/maninamerica
Gab: https://gab.com/ManInAmerica
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ManInAmerica
Gettr: https://gettr.com/user/maninamerica
Twitter: https://twitter.com/ManInAmericaUS
Parler: https://parler.com/user/ManInAmerica
SafeChat: https://safechat.com/channel/2776713240786468864
Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@maninamerica2
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/maninamericaus
Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. I'm sure that you agree with the statement when I say that we are at war. But what kind of war is it? It's not a war where they're dropping bombs on us, where we've got troops invading with guns shooting at us.
Seth Holehouse:That's not the war we're in. You could say that we're at war from the perspective of, say, production. Right? The destruction of our foods, you know, our food production facilities, the collapse of different aspects of our society, you know, the recent, you know, accident that's bringing that brought down the bridge in, Maryland. You could say that we're at war in that sense, but actually, there's a much bigger war that we're at.
Seth Holehouse:It's the war on truth. It's the war for the narrative. It's the psychological op operation to get as many Americans as possible to, a, not realize that we're at war, and, b, to actually be inadvertently on the side of the enemies in the war. Right? As the term, the useful idiots.
Seth Holehouse:You look back at, you know, communist history of the overthrows. They needed to do that, and that's why the information war is so critical because they need to get as many Americans as possible. People around the world, but talk about America specifically in this show, they need to get as many Americans as possible to be actually fighting for the enemy without even realizing that they're at war, and this is what's happening. Now one of the biggest, instances, one of the biggest false flag events in this war that helps them kind of manipulate and control the narrative was January 6, and we're still seeing the ramifications of what happened then, and and how it changed our society, how it changed the special the a alpha agencies focus on, you know, the American patriots, the the Christian nationalists, the MAGA movements. And so joining me today is Chris Belgard, who is the director of a movie called The War on Truth, which is coming out in about a week or so.
Seth Holehouse:We're gonna be talking about specifically this war about what he's seen, you know, he did was on the border covering the border for, you know, a couple decades, and now he's also been, you know, behind this movie, The War on Truth, which is really focused on January 6, but not just January 6, the bigger picture of it, the control, the the false flag, the federal agencies, and what this means for America, but also what it means for the future of America. So folks, please enjoy the interview. Chris, thank you so much for joining us today. It's great to have you on the show.
Speaker 2:Seth, it's good to be had.
Seth Holehouse:Very good. So you work in a very powerful medium, especially right now in in today's society where there's I I really believe a multifaceted information war going on. And your work producing documentaries is almost like maybe it's not like a nuke, but you you know, you're like an ICBM missile in this information war, you know, dropping these these bombs. And so you've got a recent documentary, which the trailer we showed just in the introduction, the war on truth, which I I think is actually, it's funny because that's exactly what it's described. Right?
Seth Holehouse:There's a war on truth, right, in this information war, and you're in the middle of it. So I'll hand it over to you to see see where you wanna get started on this.
Speaker 2:Hang on. Hang on, Seth. I need to catch my breath here for a second. I usually spend these these interviews where, you know, I got ten minutes, twelve minutes. How do I explain to them what the war on truth is and how we're living in a psy app and an information war right now?
Speaker 2:And you basically just went and did my entire spiel within the first thirty seconds. So, I'm actually so excited to be on a show where somebody gets the bigger picture. Absolutely. Again, blessed to be on your show. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 2:We had made a movie called Capital Punishment, Everything They Told You About J6 Is A Lie. My buddy Nick Searcy and I did. We were all in DC on 01/06/2021. I was there with my family, but I've also been in other interesting places. I had been in Central America when they tried to throw a coup and take over government down there.
Speaker 2:So when stuff started going up on January 6, my bells and whistles were popping. A couple weeks later, Nick and I get an opportunity. Someone says, Hey, if you guys are gonna make another movie, what would it be about? I said, January 6. And they said, Why?
Speaker 2:I said, Because they stole that day, and if you don't make the accurate record of factually what happened that day, that day's gonna be gone from history. And so we made that movie. It was arguably the most censored movie in America, Twenty Twenty Two. And was thrilled because we were the first ones to come out, and then Epic Times made a film about it. Stop Hate came out, Trent of Sevens, Lara Logan did a great series called The Rest of the Stories.
Speaker 2:So I thought, you know, we'll probably, the story's getting told, we don't need to do this. And kept getting this nagging thing that there was a bigger story to be told and we needed to do a sequel. I'm not usually a big fan of sequels until the FBI showed up a quarter mile to my ranch here in Texas, and I found out I was being investigated as a terrorist threat to The United States Of America for making a movie. So, being 62 years of age from a law enforcement family, from a dad who graduated in the one hundred ninth session at the FBI Academy in Quantico, Virginia, I was a little surprised to see that and to hear that. And even though we weren't totally surprised that something like that would happen, it's still, it's a lot.
Speaker 2:It's heavy on your family. It's scary. And my partner, Nick, Nick's like, they're still going after and persecuting families from the first movie, they're doing more. And now if they can do this to you, Chris, they can do this to anybody. They can come after an American for making a movie, then the country's really in trouble.
Speaker 2:So that's how God got my attention to make the sequel. And I'm so glad he did because you'll find out more about January 6, find out more about the truth that you haven't seen about what happened that day. Couple of things just off the top of the bat, you'll find out that January 6, that the Capitol Police and MAGA, they were all set up that day. Okay? This is an operation, they were all set up.
Speaker 2:You're gonna see that people like Ashley Babbitt, who the January 6 commission couldn't even bother to come out with her name, died a hero. This is the fourteen year military veteran, and you'll see footage in this film that you haven't seen before, that seconds before she was gunned down and shot to death, she was punching Zachary Allen, who was the most violent protester there that day, was breaking the window with a military helmet. She grabs him and pulls away. She gives him a left hook, knocks his glasses off his face, and somebody else's gun, and she goes out the window and she gets shot and dies. That is a legacy that America needs to know.
Speaker 2:I mean, when people see that, whether you're right, whether you're left, whether you're, you know, purple, yellow, I don't care, you see that what they tried to do to this woman and her family is just, it's just evil. And we we knocked down a lot of lies, and then you still see the administration and sometimes even the DOJ or the FBI will say, oh, five police officers died that day. Zero police officers died that day. Unfortunately, officer Brian Cycnik, a good man, died the next day. Four other police officers commit suicide in the following months.
Speaker 2:But the people that died that day were two gentlemen from heart attacks. The people who died that day was Ashley Babb. People who died that day was Roseanne Boylan. And the result of Roseanne Boylan dying that day is people that were around her trying to help her ended up getting arrested and going to prison. People like Colton Maccabee, who is law enforcement out of Tennessee.
Speaker 2:Why is he in prison for over two years awaiting trial? Well, if you ask Colton or if you ask his wife, Sarah, it's because he's an expert witness to use of force and how that woman should be alive today if it wasn't for abuse of force. These are the stories that aren't being told. When you see the president, when you see the FBI, when you see the media going on years later saying Officer Cygnich was bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher on the Capitol Steps, which is a lie. We proved that that wasn't true.
Speaker 2:We knew it three years ago. Finally, some of the J-six footage came out and Tucker ran with it, you could see him walking around after he was supposedly bludgeoned to death. The man wasn't dead, okay? When you see at the highest level pushing such a false narrative, it makes every American stop and say, wait a minute, something doesn't feel right. What's going on?
Speaker 2:Why is this happening? Is this just misreporting? I don't get this. Well, when you see The War and Truth, it connects the dots and ties things together and it gives you the overall picture where you'll go, holy crap. And as I've been told by friends of mine, they're three letter guys in ex military, it ties into what you said, your opening statement.
Speaker 2:Chris, you didn't just make a movie, you made a weapon in the war and truth, because your movie shows what really happened. That's a big threat to the people that tried to push this false narrative and had a completely different agenda for this country. And, that's where we've come to in The United States Of America. That's that's not conspiracy. That's the reality, and I'm blessed to be talking to you here from my studio, my ranch in Texas, and not be not from prison.
Seth Holehouse:And I'm sure you're well armed with that ranch in Texas, known Texas gun laws and as
Speaker 2:Oh, well, but wait. Wait. Stop there. How big because that's what they wanna use against us. Okay?
Speaker 2:Texas is different. Okay? What you think is well armed test, that's just like, you you need a pitchfork clean out of stall, you need tractor to plow a field. You just it's just a tool. It's just what it is.
Speaker 2:But when I talk about the war on truth, and this is really, really, really important. The way you win the war on truth is by standing in the truth and filling your heart with truth and faith. Because as Christians, when our hearts are full of faith, there's no room for fear. And fear is what is the main catalyst, the main weapon they use to manipulate us. Okay?
Speaker 2:What they wanna put forth is this image that were these dangerous Texans, that were these, you know, that there's militia groups out there that wanna take down The United States Of America, and it's absolute crap. You know, just like in Texas, we don't wanna succeed for the rest of the union. Just want the rest of the union to be as free as we are down here in Texas. And they want us to go to a shooting war. Believe in my heart, the people that orchestrated January 6, they thought it was gonna happen during the summer of rage.
Speaker 2:They thought for sure you're gonna have white militias out on the streets fighting Antifa and Black Lives Matter, that didn't happen. Now we're setting up to do it again. I've covered the border for twenty years. I did a movie two years ago with Tom Homan, And we warned about this. We warned about all the foreign soldiers coming across the border unchecked.
Speaker 2:And if they ever have another summer of rage, what could take off in our cities could truly be disastrous. That's something that I hope somebody at higher levels is war game against as we speak. But we didn't go to war. We didn't go to pull guns on our fellow Americans because we understand that for decades they've been trying to divide us. We understand that.
Speaker 2:I have friends back in Hollywood that I love to death. They think I'm a crazy insurrectionist just because I was there on January 6. They've been so indoctrinated. I'm not gonna go do violence against them. I love them.
Speaker 2:And when the truth comes out, it's our duty, you as a journalist and us as fellow Americans, to to be there for each other and to let them know, look, we've all been lied to. We've all been lied to. And when the truth comes out, the American people are gonna come back together, and that scares the crap out of bad guys. There's nothing stronger than the United World of American people. And that's that's been the target of what they've been sought so hard to destroy.
Seth Holehouse:Reminds me of a quote, I think it was Saint Augustine, and I had some previous show that was something like, the truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. You let it out. It'll it'll defend itself. And I think that that really is like that's what the truth is.
Seth Holehouse:And so looking at January 6, and, know, some people might look at and say, okay, we're still talking about this. Well, yes, I get it was such a significant event. I think from my view, because I try to zoom in, but I also try to take that hundred thousand million foot view of, okay, where is this at? Like, where are at in the cycles of history? Where are we at in the rise and fall of empires?
Seth Holehouse:Where are we at within the, you know, the cycles of different administrations and the control of our country by, you know, the deep state whatever actors we wanna refer to them as. And but if you look at January 6, there's a lot of people that refer to it as a false flag. Right? And and false flag is an it really interesting concept. It goes back to, you know, the pirate ships that would say they'd raise up a British flag, and they think, oh, the the British was a false flag, and that they could either a, attack because that or b, they could attack other ships posing as the British, right, which is very common.
Seth Holehouse:So they could maybe attach a, you know, East Indian company ship or whatever. And so if you look at, you know, what happened on January 6, I think a lot of people that I think, in my opinion, I wanna get your opinion too, they don't see it for what it was. And and how I see it as is a very, very orchestrated event from the top level down in terms of creating an event that would then allow them to, you know, radically change how things are done here in America and use it to propel a new administration that had seized control of the White House via the step of the election, you know, censorship, etcetera, but Bigger than administration.
Speaker 2:Bigger than administration. You're talking about ending America as we know it and going in a completely different direction. And I hope your your your viewers, your listeners will understand. We're talking about false flag, not in the concept of black helicopter conspiracy. By the way, conspiracy theorist is determined the CAA came up with to get people to stop talking about John F.
Speaker 2:K. Being assassinated. But let's look at the history. If there wasn't a false flag, there would have been the Gulf Of Tonkin incident. We never would have been in the Vietnam war.
Speaker 2:So you have to ask yourself, are there forces out there?
Seth Holehouse:Folks, I have a quick message for you. Look, the twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that had infiltrated our country and are currently running it. And they either have to win or they're gonna destroy America so nothing is left either way. And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, especially as we head in to this next year and this next election cycle because unfortunately, I think it's gonna get rough. And one of the ways I know they're going to target us is through our food supply.
Seth Holehouse:You can see all the food factories burned down, you can see the warnings of coming famines and food shortages and everything like that. And food is one of the number one ways totalitarian regimes have always used to control the populations destroy the food supply. So if you don't have at least two, three, four, five, six months worth of stored food, I highly recommend you take that very seriously. Because look, as I mentioned, if you're the person that's watching this, you're the person that carries the burden of making sure your family is prepared. I would recommend at least six months, if not a year of storable food.
Seth Holehouse:So if things go haywire, whether it's grid down or terrorist attack from what's coming across the border, that your family can safely stay in place and you can feed your family. So folks today, go to heavensharvest.com and make sure you get your storable food that'll last for up to twenty five years. Just in case things go south, you know that you have what's gonna take to feed your family, which is so so critical for us to get through this next stage of history. So go to heavensharvest.com today, order your food that'll last up to twenty five years and use promo code Seth to save 15% on your entire order. Again, that's heavensharvest.com and use promo code Seth, s e t h, to save 15% on your entire order.
Speaker 2:That would create a false flag that would start a war where, you know, untold amount of people die, or would those same kind of forces do a false flag to keep the people which put people in power that they want to be in power? Those are the questions you need to be asking yourself. They need to start taking a look at going all around the country. Like I said, I was in Honduras. I was in Central America when they tried to take over government.
Speaker 2:Been in middle of this stuff before. My friend, Laura Logan, she was in Egypt when when we were had our hands in putting the Muslim Brotherhood and turning over government. You have to ask yourself if we had, you know, a real commission, not like the fake last J-six commission we had, if we had a real military tribunal or a truly uncorrupt congressional investigation into what happened on January 6, I would be asking questions like this. Investigative journalist, Millie Weaver, had video, who had Zoom calls with far left activists working in tandem with senior executive service members, members of our own intelligence services, planning an event just like January 6. She gave that to Capitol Police, she gave that to Secret Service, she gave that to the FBI, they did nothing with that information, that information was blocked.
Speaker 2:And this is an investigative journalist that put out information before in these groups that had been acted on and used to safeguard senators, senators. So I would ask an inner commission, why don't we call Millie Weaver in? Why don't we call her in and find out more about who was planning this event? Who was paying for these people for this event? I would call in people that may have had something to do with what happened in the overthrow of the Ukrainian government in 2014.
Speaker 2:And I would ask questions like, well, were there Americans involved in that? Were those Americans also still involved in our government at the time that this went down on January 6? Was it possible that some of the same people that overthrew the Ukrainian government might've had something to do with overthrowing the Trump administration on 01/06/2021? Then I'd ask myself, were there Ukrainians that we know that can identify that were involved in the Ukrainian overthrow of twenty fourteen? Were they allowed to come into The United States Of America?
Speaker 2:How does that happen if these are dangerous people? Were they ever in Washington DC? Were they ever in Washington DC on January 6? Were they even taking selfies with the prescripted QAnon shaman, who's the leader of the supposed QAnon MAGA army? What would a violent activist from the Ukrainian overthrow be doing taking pictures with this guy on the same day?
Speaker 2:These are all questions that if you had a real hearing, a real commission, these are sort of things that should be asked. And I think that if all America saw those questions being asked and saw these being investigated, we'd be in a whole different place. You know, if you understand Cloward Piven, if you understand Saulinsky, if you've read Rules for Radicals, you listen to The Weather Underground, if you know Mao, you know Stalin, you need an army of useful idiots to take down a government, to take down a state from within. First thing you have to do is you have to eliminate trust in the government, which is the first line of interaction from the government and the people. Well, what is that?
Speaker 2:Well, for us, it's that thin blue line. So you have to road trust in the thin blue line, you have to defund the police, and now you're creating chaos, now you're creating instability. Then go and investigate. Were there people on January 6 that were also at protests during the summer rage on the West Coast? Have these people been arrested before?
Speaker 2:So how do they get from city to city to city? Who pays for their gasoline? Who pays for their hotels? Who pays for their food? I gotta tell you, go out in the, you know, I take cruise down the road making movies and covering events.
Speaker 2:It's expensive to go out on the road. You know, these are all the things that should be forensically investigated. And I think when you do that, America would be painted with a much different picture than what the corporate media is showing you about January 6.
Seth Holehouse:I couldn't agree more. And what is encouraging though is if you look at the the okay. We're we're framing this as information war. Right? So we're saying, okay.
Seth Holehouse:It's really it's a war on the people. Right? Because if they need us. They need a vast majority of just we the people, right, to believe their narrative to help advance. Right?
Seth Holehouse:You know, you're as you're right, you mentioned useful idiots. So they've always needed the useful idiots because there's just so many of us. But what what is encouraging if you look at say CNN viewership numbers or MSNBC viewership numbers, you look at them plummeting. You go look at the recent, you know, Tucker video on x that might have 35,000,000 views. I mean, you can see that the narratives the narrative is shifting, and more people are, you know, you know, short things, a few folks like yourself getting information out there in the way that you are.
Speaker 2:So we have to get to a tipping point of truth.
Seth Holehouse:For
Speaker 2:fellows that I work with that are in the intelligence services in the military, their biggest concern is that violence would break out. That if you had half the country believe this, half the country believe that, there would be actual fighting. We don't want Americans fighting each other. But if you get enough information out and and the truth stands itself, it's like you said, when a lion comes out, bold as truth, it's a lion. And you know it's a lion, it's the truth, you know it's the truth.
Speaker 2:So if we get to a tipping point of 73%, seventy five %, I've had other people tell me 78%, you're past the point of violence. Okay, you may have some knuckleheads trying to do stuff, but if you cut up their founding funding from George Soros or whatever NGOs, whoever else is funding them, whether it's Muslim Brotherhood or the CCP, you cut that funding off, those things are gonna die out. You're not gonna have America at war with the South. So let's take what your language you're using is an information war. Let's take false life.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about psychological warfare. Let's put this all in context now because you're at a level that I can't go on to most shows. When our movie was seven and a half hours long, we had the first cut, this would have all been in the movie. Was just too much. Do you know a felon named Boom Pickens by any chance?
Seth Holehouse:I feel like I'm coming across as oh, yeah. So he he wrote the book with with five g warfare. Right?
Speaker 2:Yes. Right. Not Boone. Boone Cutler?
Seth Holehouse:Is it?
Speaker 2:Boone Cutler. Thank you. Senior moments. 62 year old ex polar writer. That's thank you for saying that.
Speaker 2:Boone Cutler. Amazing man. Okay? Ex Special Forces. So he and General Flynn write this book called The Citizen's Guide into Fifth Generation Warfare.
Speaker 2:And it basically lays out everything guys like General Jerry Boykin have been talking about for the last twenty years. And when you read the citizens handbook to fifth generation warfare, everything starts to be tied together and makes sense. And you see the 40,000 foot wall, you see the intelligence markers, they start to tie together. It's like when you have the border so soft that we have so much heroin and fentanyl coming in that we've killed more, we've lost more Americans killed in action than we did in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Vietnam combined. K.
Speaker 2:That's a part of fifth generation warfare. When you have a flooding in of absentee ballots because of due to a COVID pandemic that people lose trust and integrity of our election system. That's a part of a war in in fifth generation warfare. When you flood the country with foreigners that don't share our cultural, our legal views, and you make them and you put them in our cities so that it's eroding the city's ability financially to be able to take care of itself, Like we've seen New York, like we've San Francisco, we've seen Los Angeles, like we see all over the country, Colorado. These are all thousand cuts of the soft underbelly of The United States Of America.
Speaker 2:Then on top of that, you go back to your shows, you're talking about CNN. I actually think it was either MSNBC, I think it was MSNBC, but there was a senior producer, I believe she was from Politico. And she was asked the question, well, how worried should we be about these Christian nationalists? Then, you know, what threat is that to The United States Of America? And the first thing comes out of her mouth is, well, nationalists, they actually believe that their rights come from God, not the government.
Speaker 2:And that's what makes them so dangerous. I'm like, yeah, we have founding documents that spell out exactly that is where rights come from. They're trying to change a country from our founding where you had a bunch of people that believe that resistance to tyranny was obedience to God. And that allowed them to come together as a united will of people to come together for liberty, for freedom, and defeat the greatest military superpower on the planet. I mean, the British empire ruled everything.
Speaker 2:Hail Britannia, Britannia rules the waves. They ruled everything. And we beat them because we believe we have God on our side. And you take that same country a few years later, and it's taking off as this incredible success and becoming this new world superpower. Europe can't figure it out.
Speaker 2:Alexander de Tocqueville comes over and he's like, what's going on in America? What is this? And to to paraphrase, I didn't find the secret to America and her greatness in in her deep harbors. I didn't find it in her mountains. I didn't find it in her fertile plains.
Speaker 2:I didn't find it in her valleys. I didn't find it in her cities. I found the secret of America in her pulpits because the secret to America is that America is good, and that when America ceases to be good, she will cease to be great. So that was prescient because you look to where we are now, you you can talk about, you know, half the country wants to sacrifice children and kill babies, And you can look at on TikTok videos where they're doing things, they snatch children off the streets to see how people react, and nine out of 10 people don't do anything. We don't protect our children.
Speaker 2:What does that say about us as a society? So what J6 was brilliant for is those people that would protect children, those people that would take their time, their resources, their treasures, and come to Washington DC to say, Hey, I think there's something wrong here, guys. I think we need ten days to take a further investigation into some of these states and some of these disputed results. You just knocked them off the playing field on January 6. And it's not just the several hundred people that are in prison now, they're waiting trial.
Speaker 2:Their their plan, and you'll see in our movie, as two FBI whistleblowers say, is to go after everybody that was there and then some. And it's it's extremely dangerous. And why this concern people that aren't MAGA people, that aren't supporters of Trump, let's just use one
Seth Holehouse:person
Seth Holehouse:for example, Khoi Griffin. Do you know Khoi Griffin by any chance?
Speaker 2:Three:fifty):
Seth Holehouse:Yes, I do.
Speaker 2:Okay. So you know him, he's head of Cowboys for Trump. He's an ex pastor, cowboy, New Mexico. He was also a Terrell County board of supervisors. He gets arrested, I believe for criminal trespassing and parading.
Speaker 2:He never went in the Capitol Building, but somebody gave him a bullhorn and he prayed for God to heal our land and to multitudes of people. So when he gets arrested, and this is what just concerned everybody in America, he doesn't get a phone call to his attorney or his family for nine days. He's in solitary confinement for three weeks, which is bad enough. That should never happen in The United States Of America. But that's just where it starts.
Speaker 2:The follow-up is after he gets convicted of parading and criminal trespassing, They used that, the Democrats used that to kick him out of office saying that he was part of an insurrection. Now, what was also going on in Otero County, New Mexico? They were the only county that was doing a forensic investigation into the twenty twenty election. Well, guess what? You got rid of COI, you got rid of that investigation.
Speaker 2:You see, and that's just one person out of possibly a million and a half, 2,000,000 people were there that day. So that it sends the message out, not only keep your head down or we're gonna destroy you, but it's also very practically, it's a political way to take over the entire system.
Seth Holehouse:When you were making the documentary, what what was if if you can remember and look back on this, what was one moment that stood out to you the most? A moment where you're working on it, whether it's through an interview or some research or something where it just hit you, like, in the gut, and you're like, oh my goodness, and you really uncovered something. Is there anything that that comes to you when you reflect on that?
Speaker 2:Oh, man. There was a couple of them. Annette Cooney talking to her. They arrested her husband. Her husband is a is a military hero.
Speaker 2:He led the marine honor guard at Reagan's funeral, And they came and put they raided her house. They dragged her and her four year old out into the cold in in their their pajamas. It was, I think, minus four, minus seven degrees out. And the next day she lost her baby. She missed hearing after that.
Speaker 2:That was a gut punch. Talking to Master Sergeant Jeremy Brown, who was actually the poster boy from America's Green Berets, who'd been in prison over two years awaiting trial. And him saying to me, Chris, you have to understand something. Why am I in prison? Because the United States government spent millions of dollars training me how to take down a country from me inside.
Speaker 2:That's special fortunes. That's what we do. If I was in the prison, I'd be on every podcast, every late night show, every talk show I could explain what happened on January 6 and what's gonna happen next because this is what I was trained to do. I recognize what just happened. That was a big gut punch.
Seth Holehouse:Folks, perhaps you'd agree with me when I say that over the past five years, the mainstream health care system's credibility has plummeted. Alternative health care systems that aren't beholden to medical consensus or big pharma are on the rise. Sweetamine is time tested and proven to boost your life with better health. It's one of the leading products that helps with inflammation and daily aches and pains. Just because you get older, it doesn't mean you have to feel old.
Seth Holehouse:And folks, did you know that most of the diseases that make people sick and die these days are rooted in chronic inflammation, oftentimes due to glycine deficiency. So sweetamine is composed mainly of the amino acid glycine, the nutrient that the immune system uses to regulate inflammation. So with once daily sweetamine, most people feel the reduction in pain after just a few days. So I challenge you to the twelve day sweetamine challenge to fight inflammation and take control of your health today. So folks, buy Sweetamine online at sweetamine.com or call 855 That's (855) 438-7933.
Seth Holehouse:And make sure you use promo code Seth, s e t h, to get a nice discount on your purchase.
Speaker 2:Man, this whole last year and a half has been has been such a blur. They were just and then I think that the the third biggest gut punch and former former FBI agent, Kyle Seraphim back this up. But I was with I was interviewing Kyle, Steve Friend, FBI whistleblower, former FBI. I remember my dad, like I said, my dad went to the FBI Academy session with the fusion thing. I had buddies.
Speaker 2:I grew up with, you know, my dad's friends, they're all FBI guys, know, not all, but a lot of them. And so I'm here talking to Kyle and until this, I'm still thinking, it's just some bad guys in the FBI. It's not the whole system's gonna go this way. And Kyle explains to me how he was taken off a pedophile task force to go after J-sixers. And the first guy they wanted to grab, she's like, I know this guy.
Speaker 2:I can call him up. We can have lunch together. No, we're not gonna do that. Well, I'll have him bring him in. We'll just come into the office.
Speaker 2:We'll arrest him when he comes in the office. No. Orders from Washington, this is what you're gonna do. You're gonna hit him. You're gonna hit him hard.
Speaker 2:Flash bangs, tactical vehicles. This is what we're gonna do. And Kyle had already suspected that the FBI was making a directory of Christians in the FBI. And he thought that they may be coming after them because it was the Christians that wouldn't take the vaccine for religious purposes. And he had actually said to his wife, I think we better start saving our money because I think they're gonna find a way to kick me out of the FBI.
Speaker 2:And this is a guy who's in record was exemplary, but this is also a guy, he was on the tactical unit during the, you know, remember the whole Whitmer hostage thing that was going on where supposedly these militia guys were gonna kidnap Governor of Michigan? Well, was in on that. And in his tactical briefing, he said, you know, they told us these guys had FBI pure tactical training. They're that good. This is how dangerous they are going into them.
Speaker 2:Well, then he gets into it and he finds out that, you know, over half the guys in there were either FBI or CIs or undercovers. And the reason their training was so good, because it was FBI guys doing the training to teach these guys how to do it. Forget Rahm Emanuel, never let a good crisis go to waste. Let's create the crisis. Then we'll come in as a solution and then we'll come to Congress and say, We need more money because you got Carousel popping up in Michigan.
Speaker 2:So the gut punch that I got from Kyle, when he's telling me all the stuff, I'm thinking, This is bad, this is bad. But I'm thinking, Thank goodness we're bringing light to it. We made a movie, now we're making another movie. We're gonna stop this. Oh no.
Speaker 2:He's telling me that they're just getting started on who they're going after to put together a task force with people right out of the academy, people that are on probation that can't question like he did, people that are, I don't wanna say the youngest and dumbest, but definitely the most woke, because that's who they're hiring in the FBI right now to go after people like me. And when they say you've taken an oath to defend The United States constitution, all enemies, foreign domestic, that guy over there, Chris Burgard, that's one of the domestic enemies that you're gonna go after. When hearing that come from Kyle's mouth, a man who was so proud, whose dream was to be an FBI agent and he imprisoned to the top of what he could do in the agency. That was a huge gut punch. And then to turn around and he explained to me, when he explained to me how on paper, the more terrorist investigations you have around the country, because it's really only one, it's one of the best escape from January 6, should be just one.
Speaker 2:But the way they've mapped it out and spread it around, and they're making it look like, oh no, the whole country is filled with these terrorist investigations all over. That makes more money. And the more investigations you have, more the senior executive service members, they get 25 to $50,000 bonuses at Christmas at the end of the year, if they've got all these numbers up, it's on a point system. So when he told me that, and then he said that the FBI was looking to get congressional funding to build an institution bigger than the Pentagon to finish what they started, that really brought things whole beans and scared the crap out of me and punched me in the stomach and took my wind out because I was like, this is a juggernaut that's been going and going on, and it's gonna take every single American standing up and saying, Hey, This isn't right. This isn't the truth.
Speaker 2:Otherwise, we're in a lot of trouble.
Seth Holehouse:I I I couldn't agree more with that. You mentioned the Green Beret and him, you know, talking to you and saying that, you know, he he knows he's seen this scenario. And, actually, the if with some light research, you can see it repeated all over again. You know, color revolutions, coups, you can see the involvement of our government. Unfortunately, our our agencies and overthrows of many different governments, whether it was Middle East, and and you can usually see the reason behind it, you know, whether it was oil related, natural resources, you know, they were gonna, you know, release a new kind of currency that wasn't gonna fit into the central banking system, etcetera.
Seth Holehouse:You see
Speaker 2:that Shaddafi.
Seth Holehouse:Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. And so but the Green Bates, you know, told you that he also saw what comes what what comes next. And based upon all the research, this is the the important question too.
Seth Holehouse:Because I'll get to the question, but I think that a lot of Americans, they see this, you know, and even though a lot of are waking up, they still go back to just watching, you know, whatever's on Sean Hannity that night, and they touch on these things. It's enough to make you feel like you understand it, but without the real substance of what it really means. And this is where I think the crux of the matter is, this is I think the important question that I like to dig into, is what comes next? What comes next if enough Americans don't stand up peacefully? Right?
Seth Holehouse:We don't want civil war. But if enough Americans don't fight and share information, we get more people aware of what's happening. What comes next? And what are you seeing comes next if we don't correct this?
Speaker 2:The end of The United States Of America is you and I have come to understand it. It's everything Reagan said. And how you and I I actually I was blessed. I I spent twice I got to to speak with president, in California watching polo games at Royal Rogers Park together. And he's a man who said that we were always one generation away of losing our freedom, we weren't vigilant.
Speaker 2:And I always thought he was wrong. I was like, this is America that can never happen. He could not absolutely have been more spot on. What we were looking at is the end of The United States Of America as we know it. You will not have freedom of speech.
Speaker 2:You will live in fear of your own government. You know, what what did what was John Adams' best friend built the constitution?
Seth Holehouse:Hamilton?
Speaker 2:Nope. Close. Not the banker, dude. See, this is the senior bull rider moment. You're gonna I'm gonna you're gonna become so insanely slow.
Speaker 2:He wrote the constitution. Wrote the bill of rights. Jeff Thomas Jefferson. Thank you. Thomas Jefferson.
Speaker 2:What did Thomas Jefferson say about about the government? He said that when, the people fear the government, there is tyranny. But when the government fears the people, there's liberty. Okay? That's what made us so different.
Speaker 2:We are supposed to be a bottom up government. The power comes from the people. We send our elected representatives to go to Washington DC to do their jobs to come home. We have 50 states, which are each their own little countries, come together in this partnership with other countries to make The United States Of America. That's not what we're doing right now.
Speaker 2:We now have a political elite backed by corporate and international sponsors that want their agendas done, and it's not about the will of people. And, unfortunately, I worked in politics. I was Herman Cain. I got pulled out of nowhere after I did this move up the border, called border. I've got pulled into politics.
Speaker 2:I was Herman Cain's strategic and creative media director. And being backstage at every single presidential event and meeting all these different presidential candidates and seeing the inner workings and stuff, how things work, those guys aren't in charge. It's the guys pointing their strings that are in charge. It's hard for Americans to believe that, but that's the way it works. And it's fricking frightening.
Speaker 2:And we're going to a tipping point. Are we gonna become, you know, and this is why Europe and Asia are so much on our side and why they sing the national anthem at soccer games in Europe, because they know if we go down, they're done, they're gone for it. This is the last bastion of the freedom and hope for mankind. And it's not like someone's coming to your face and say, I'm going to fight you for your freedom. It's being stolen a piece at a time that you don't even notice it.
Speaker 2:And so what we're facing, short long answer to your short question is we're facing the end of The United States and America as we know it. We're facing the end of the last great hope for human freedom and liberty on this planet.
Seth Holehouse:Unfortunately, I'm in the same boat, and that's why I I mean, I I won't say it keeps me up at night because I have to, at some point, be able to accept that there's a bigger part of this, which is in God's hands, and that I'll do my best to fight, but ultimately, you know, it is. And that's the that's where I come to anyway. When I look at you mentioned the word juggernaut. You know, what this has become, you know, whether you wanna look at the the agencies, the corporatocracy, the the control of our government by, you know, the CCP, the WEF, the UN, the the bankers, the globalist. You look at everything that's actually controlling America.
Seth Holehouse:It's not just a rogue federal government. I mean, it is it's it's a juggernaut. It's it's a massive global global empire. It's it's the death star. It's this what it is.
Seth Holehouse:And the only way I can make sense of it when I look to the future, the only way I can see a future is with with God. Like, that's the only thing, and I think, you know, going back to you mentioned the founding fathers and how they they fought off the world's most powerful tyranny at that time, I believe it was it was divine providence. It was through God that they founded this.
Speaker 2:You're you're a % right. And he's not gonna let her go down the tubes while there's handful of us willing to stand up for it. And I'm I'm gonna go break out of the box a little bit here. I'm gonna break out of the box a little bit here. You're a dad.
Speaker 2:You have young children. You're in this fight. You have no choice but to win because of your children. My daughter just walked in. She's 20 years old now.
Speaker 2:She's been through this when she was a little kid on the border and seen cartel guys follow us and all sorts of stuff. She she's seen the worst of it. When the FBI came to our house and the reality of what we were facing in order to tell the truth hit us, I sat my girls down and I said, Look, I'm sorry. I don't want anything. I will stop doing this if you want.
Speaker 2:And to paraphrase my daughter, she looked at me and she said, dad, you can't stop. You can't stop because there's not gonna be a country you have to win. I wanna have kids. To look at my daughter, and it wasn't fear that came out of my daughter's eyes, but it was it was she knew the seriousness of what was going on. And to see that coming out of her and to feel so powerless for a dad to be able to look her and say, it's gonna be okay.
Speaker 2:We can fix this. We can't fix this. We can help, but this is exactly what you said. This is a God thing. This is about, and I'm gonna use the word revival, because we come back to our founding principles, come back to the 10 commandments, come back to treating each other as loving brothers and sisters like we're supposed to, yes, we can absolutely save this country.
Speaker 2:And we're fast and moving to where people have seen the secular war that's going on in the violence, but they haven't, and they'll say, oh, it's a spiritual war too. No. Well, now it's It's a spiritual war with ramifications. People are really die dying from the violence from people that come across the border. People are really dying as a result of these vaccines that have been portrayed been forced upon the American people.
Speaker 2:Our United States military's ability to defend itself is really down significantly because of the vaccine mandate that was put on our military. Hardest chargers left, a lot of the guys stayed. Now they're having big serious health problems, okay? This has actually really happened. This is the war of good and evil.
Speaker 2:And now you're seeing the spiritual and the secular merge. So this is where we're headed and only God's going to help us win this. But at the same time, you know, God gives us the shovel. He doesn't dig the hole. So that's where we are.
Speaker 2:Kids, thank you for coming here, Mac. I'm sorry, I'm talking to my daughter real quick. I didn't mean to mess up her all day and put you on the spot, but you came in and you remind me of that day. That day was a huge part of why we went back to make the sequel and to make The War on Truth. And like I said, I didn't want to make the movie because I wasn't sure exactly what am I going to do?
Speaker 2:Show a dozen people do their facial recognition, prove their antifa, prove their BLM, maybe get lucky, get one or two that's a federal contractor on recover. Is that gonna change the country? I don't know. God pushes as a wake up call for the larger war on truth. As Christians, and this is why they target Christians, as Christians, we're called to speak the truth.
Speaker 2:And as Christians, if you're hard, like I said before, is full of faith, there's not room to get the fear in there and there's not room to take you down. So when the weather on the ground tells you that there's 25,000,000 people that they probably aren't going to be able to see change and accept their form of government and totalitarian safety, they're gonna have to be eliminated. They're talking about you, they're talking about me, and they're talking about our kids. That's the reality of where we are right now in The United States Of America. And don't think for a second that they won't do it.
Speaker 2:What you're seeing now, look what they're doing to Trump. You know, Trump always says, you know, they're not after me, they're after you. I'm just in the way. That wasn't just a sound bite. He's absolutely true.
Speaker 2:If they can bend the law so much for a guy that's got that much money to hire attorneys, you can see how they can trap a world. Look at the rest of us, look at Troy Griffin, look at the people that are rotting the gulag right now. You think any one of them, ninety eight point nine percent conviction rate, you think any one of them is getting a trial by their peers, certainly not speedy, you're seeing it happen in real time. This is the burning of the Reichstadt, this is the processing of the Rubicon, this is all happening right here, right now. And it's horrible, but at the same time too, God has called all of us for a season such as this, and let's see what happens.
Seth Holehouse:And that's an important point too, and that's what I'm seeing as I look at this landscape and look at what's happening, and I look at even my own life and the choices that I've made as as dark and difficult as it seems. I think that a, it's always been dark and difficult. Go back to biblical times. Go back to the sacrificing of babies. Go back to the old, you know, drawings of of them, you know, throwing babies to the altar of Baal.
Seth Holehouse:I mean, there's there's there's nothing new under the sun. Right? It's it's going and going. This evil has been here for a very long time. I think it feels like there's so much evil in the world because we're finally seeing it.
Seth Holehouse:Like, we're finally it's showing itself. But I also think that that's a process of it weakening. I think the the evil is more powerful when it's in the dark, when it's not seen by people, and that the more people see it. I think this is what we're experiencing right now is that people are now seeing the evil, and when you see the evil in the world, you're met with a moral decision. You either a, do nothing, you b, you go along with the evil, and you accept the evil, and you accept Satan's path, or c, you say, I'm gonna fight against it.
Seth Holehouse:I'm gonna say it's And that's what I'm seeing. And that that gives me a lot of hope, is I'm seeing a lot of people that five years ago were sitting on the sidelines that are now saying what you they're looking at their own children, whether it's their children, their grandchildren, their spouse, and they're they're they're saying, I have to do something. And as you mentioned, revival, and I couldn't agree more. I think that's what we're seeing. It does give me hope is that even though I think, yes, no man or even group of men, I think, can change the situation that our country is in.
Seth Holehouse:But I also think that the greatest weakness that the evil that we're up against the cabal has is they they think that that our God is the false God. They think that Lucifer, they think that what what they're worshiping, what they're, focusing on, they think that's the real power. And so they they've underestimated, I think our greatest asset. I I think the key though is that, yes, we want to pray and we want to make America you know, we want to have God save America, but I think we have to make America worth saving. And if we can get enough good people in this country that God looks at and says, okay, this country is worth saving.
Seth Holehouse:To me, that's where the battle lies.
Speaker 2:Well, there's been such an arc of going from black helicopter conspiracy stuff to seeing when you show people what's going on, it changes. Now, if I would've said two years ago, you talked about ball worshipers sacrificing babies to their God, and people say that's still going on today. And people say, you're absolutely crazy. They would've told me that a year or two years ago. Well, now after you've seen video tapes of people from Planned Parenthood talking about how much money they can make cutting up born live children and making money off of that and where those parts go, all of a sudden people that are not pro life people are going, gosh, that's almost as gross as throwing babies in the fire that they were doing five thousand years ago.
Speaker 2:It changes their perspective, starts to move. And that gets us towards that tipping point of truth. And we don't all have to agree on all 10 things, but if we can all agree on three or four of the main basic things, then we become the American people again. And that's you don't all have to become Bible thumping Christians and go to church three times a week like they do at my Pine Baptist Church down here in in in in but you do have to believe in good and evil. And so much in The United States Of America, and I know I have friends of this, that, Oh, there is no evil, there is no good.
Speaker 2:There's just I'm like, I'm sorry, Hitler burning all these Jews in the oven, you don't consider that evil? Well, he probably had a bad childhood or this happened to him. Excuse me. This is evil. Do you understand?
Speaker 2:This is evil. I've seen evil. I've spent twenty years on the border. Okay? Selling children is evil.
Speaker 2:Cutting up family members to scare the rest of their family, rest of the village while they're still alive, that is evil. That is evil. And people, until they see it, they don't believe it. So my personal belief, and I'm gonna do this because your show is so extraordinary and your conversation is a whole other level, I usually only stick to facts that I filmed and things that I can prove. But my belief is I'm afraid our country is headed towards a near death experience.
Speaker 2:My belief is, my hope is it's gonna get us, we always come out of these things stronger. Came out of the depression stronger when we came out of World War II stronger when we're united. I don't want to see us go through bad things, but I think that if we do go through something that's so bad, and if it's timed at the same time that these truths come out and we can see what evil we've truly been living with on a daily basis, that goodness could be born again, that revival could be born again, that people want to rejoice in God's grace. Because even if you don't read your Bible, if you've got the spirit of Christ on you, if somebody's sharing God's grace with you, that's a good place to be. That's a wonderful feeling.
Speaker 2:You want to have that. And I think that's where we're moving. And I'm going to do a shameless plug here. The movie is premiering in Dallas on May 17, okay? But on May 18, we're having a revival in Mount Pleasant, Texas.
Speaker 2:Sarah Palin's coming out, Louie Gohmer's coming out, Nick Sears is coming out. We're gonna have a four hour revival and then we're gonna watch the movie. Because if they're gonna target Christians for standing up and telling the truth, then my gosh, we need to get Christians just standing up in the truth so that we don't all get knocked over.
Seth Holehouse:Absolutely. Absolutely. So the website, and I'll have all these links in the description where people can go. It's the warontruthmovie.com. They can preorder it.
Seth Holehouse:The trailer's on there. All the information's on there. Your contact information's on it. If they wanna get ahold of the company, send you some feedback, this is the place to do it. The War on Truth movie.
Seth Holehouse:And I wanna encourage people. I think we've gotten used to streaming services. We've gotten used to, oh, I get you know, if our shows up on Netflix, I'll watch. Well, you realize that that that's part of the information wars. There's no coincidence with Netflix and the home page is Lucifer and, you know, pedophilia, and all kinds of stuff being shoved in our face.
Seth Holehouse:It's important to support independent content creators like yourself, like like the company, like like, what's behind this mission by going, pre ordering, paying to watch the video, sharing it
Speaker 2:with friends. It's really important. Thank you for saying that. We're actually trying to thank you for saying that. We're actually trying to break the whole grip that the elite, that the cabal, the corporate media has on on not just information, but also on entertainment in this country.
Speaker 2:And what we're doing different with this film, when we did the first film, we did it it it it came out pretty well, the first movie until the algorithms attacked us and shut it down. What we realized was it couldn't come from just one website. So yes, we have The War on Truth, thewarontruthmovie.com, but what you're gonna see happen on May 17, you're gonna see platforms all across the country are gonna be showing this movie. We're creating a profit sharing affiliate platforms where we wanna break, instead of a small bunch of people in Hollywood or New York saying who can watch what or what information is getting out, we wanna make it profitable. So, if you've got a podcast and you've got 10,000 people listen to you, or you've got a hundred people listen to you, you come partner with us, you help us sell this movie, you're gonna make a big percentage of this movie.
Speaker 2:And because that way you can hire somebody to do your podcast, or you can pay your electrical bill or your internet bill. And that way we build the army, we spread God's truth when we bring the country closer together. You know, we are the news now, so we need to help each other. So you can actually, if you go to our website, besides finding out when the events are and getting tickets and the DVD, if you wanna make money and help save the country, sign up to be one of our affiliates. And it's easy to do.
Speaker 2:And we're gonna stop these bastards. That's all I can say. We're gonna stop them.
Seth Holehouse:We are. I I feel very confident that we are. Not without great loss and without great difficulty, but what or what war is easy throughout history? What war that was worth fighting is easy?
Speaker 2:And that's that's that's the that's what people have to cross. This isn't another election. This is war. We've been at war. Our special forces generals have tried to tell us for the last decade, we haven't been listening.
Speaker 2:Why do think they tried to take Flynn out? It's not just because he knows where all the bodies are buried, he knows how the game is played. And the last thing they want is for Flynn out telling America, you're being attacked right now and you don't even know it. Okay? And it's all connected.
Speaker 2:It's not just the ballots, not just fentanyl, it's you going to the store and in less than three and a half years, your dollar only buys 72¢ worth of groceries. That's how you hit the American family. Oh, and then let's get rid of our food processing plants and let's sell farmland to foreigners. Let's corrupt all the things that made us great and self sufficient. You know, look at our, you know, we were an energy exporter when Donald Trump left office.
Speaker 2:I don't care if you don't like Donald Trump, but the fact of the matter is we were an energy exporter. We were energy independent. Gasoline diesel prices were over $2 cheaper than they are now. Now we've drained the federal reserve. If we were to go to war tomorrow and they shut off the Straits Of Hormuz, there's no fighting back kids.
Speaker 2:We can't power vehicles. It's all about energy. We wouldn't have it.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. I think a lot of people would would do well to read unrestricted warfare by the two Chinese Chinese generals to understand just how complex this war is and how the war is at work we think it is. It's it's so multifaceted war. It's it's nothing like what we what we what we imagined growing up watching the war movies.
Speaker 2:Patrick Byrne will tell you that there are generals, I believe one was the one of the guys that co wrote that book, who've actually put up and said, pick your house out in The United States Of America. See where you wanna live, and we're gonna make that happen. Know, when you have Michael Young, are you familiar with Michael Young?
Seth Holehouse:Yeah, yeah, I've had him on many times. Great guy. Yeah,
Speaker 2:there's handful of journalists I respect. Michael Young, Laura Logan, Sheryl Atkinson, Tucker, course. Michael Yan, and I've known him for so many years, he's ex special forces, he's an adrenaline junkie, he's gotta be in the middle of where it is. When he's been telling us for cheers that they're bringing in Chinese special forces through the Darien Gap, and you're seeing them coming in and no one's doing anything about it, guys, he's not freaking kidding. If you understand how everything works, the Chinese Communist Party uses Iran and Venezuela as their proxies.
Speaker 2:Half these people are coming up or staging out of Venezuela. Okay? This is this is this is time to wake up and just take an accurate assessment of what's really going on here. Okay? And in order for people to do that, it's not business as usual.
Speaker 2:You have to look at it as war. Unrestricted warfare, fifth generation war. This is where we at. And if we don't, you can't win if you don't know you're being attacked. Okay?
Speaker 2:I think we wake up, we'll win this thing, but you have to understand what what the game is and how it's being played.
Seth Holehouse:That's it. That's why I'm doing what I'm doing. That's why you're doing what you're doing.
Speaker 2:Thanks. And and thanks for what you're doing.
Seth Holehouse:It's been such a pleasure speaking with you. I I really enjoyed this conversation. I hope the audience did as well. I hope that people could put a little alarm in their calendar May 17. Go watch the film, you know, share it.
Seth Holehouse:All the links are going be that you know below. Thank you for doing what you're doing, man. You can
Speaker 2:get a babysitter, grab that hot wife of yours and come on down to Dallas and spend a good night in the movie theater and have a good time, you know.
Seth Holehouse:That would be great. That would be wonderful. Thank you so much. Great speaking with
Speaker 2:you. Alright,
Seth Holehouse:folks, I hope you enjoyed that interview. So this past week, Elon Musk made some pretty harsh comments about what he sees happening to the value of the dollar. And on top of that, there's a lot of other very significant things happening, including this viral video of one of Biden's chief, like, head economic advisers that, honestly, it makes it look like he has a third grade understanding of how money in America works. So, folks, please enjoy this short interview with doctor Kirk Elliott. Kirk, as usual, it's great to have you back on.
Seth Holehouse:Thanks for coming here today.
Speaker 3:It's great to be with you.
Seth Holehouse:So, of course, there's a lot to talk to talk about. But one of the big things I think that is going around is the if you look at a leader, whether it's a president of a country or a CEO, a lot of times, a leader is only as good as the people around him. Right? So having a great marketing guy, great operations, etcetera, can make or break a company, regardless of how good the leader is. So if you look at Joe Biden, now we know what kind of leader he is.
Seth Holehouse:We're not gonna comment on that here. I think most of our viewers know exactly what kind of leader he is, and who he's really being controlled by. But if you look at what's happening in the economy, you might say, okay, well, who are his advisors? Now, you sent me a video, and this video has been going all over the place. Let me pull it up.
Seth Holehouse:So of this guy named Jared Bernstein or Bernstein. Now, so this is his Biden's economic adviser. And this is part of a documentary or an interview with him, and he's trying to explain why The US borrows so much money when they can just print it. So I'm gonna play this, and the video speaks for itself. I'm looking forward to hearing your response.
Seth Holehouse:It's it's a minute twenty two.
Mel K:Like you said, they print the dollar. So why why does the government even borrow?
Seth Holehouse:Well,
Speaker 5:the so the I mean, again, some of this stuff gets some of the language that the some of the language and concepts are just confusing. I mean, the government definitely prints money and it definitely lends that money, which is why, the government definitely prints money and then it lends that money by, by selling bonds. Is that what they do? They they they yeah. They they they sell bonds.
Speaker 5:Yeah. They sell bonds. Right? Since they sell bonds and people buy the bonds and lend them the money. Yeah.
Speaker 5:So a lot of times a lot of times, at least to my year with with MMT, the the language and the concepts can be kind of unnecessarily confusing, but there is no question that the government prints money and then it uses that money to so yeah. I I guess I'm just, I don't I can't really talk. I don't I don't get it. I don't know what they're talking about. Like, because it's like the government clearly prints money.
Speaker 5:It does it all the time, and it clearly borrows. Otherwise, we wouldn't be having this debt and deficit conversation. So I don't think there's anything confusing there.
Seth Holehouse:I I felt uncomfortable just watching that. I I I mean, I I feel like your average American can probably explain it better than him, and this guy is one of Biden's economic advisers. So so, Kirk, you know, does it does it take being a a PhD in economics to understand these things?
Speaker 3:Okay. No. It doesn't. So he's not just a economic adviser. He's the chief of the Council of Economic Advisers.
Speaker 3:Like when it comes to economic policy speaking into the president's ear, he's the top guy, right? He's the one that And so we kind of giggle sometimes that Biden is incoherent and can't finish a sentence. But, oh, my word, this guy was no better. I listened to that minute and twenty two seconds, and I don't know what he said because he doesn't know what he's saying. So there's so much stuff in there that he doesn't know, which is basic.
Speaker 3:If you're the chief of the Council of Economic Advisers, you should know that the government doesn't print money. Government doesn't print money. The government has through the Treasury Department, has Treasury bonds that they sell and they receive money. So that's how they get it. So how would how would we get money?
Speaker 3:Well, other countries, China, Brazil, Russia, United Kingdom, Germany, they're buying U. S. Treasuries. That's an inflow of cash coming in and they're getting our treasury bonds. So what this guy was bumbling around about, he said, Yeah, well, we sell bonds.
Speaker 3:I think we sell bonds and we print money. It's very it's not confusing. It's like, wait a second. If you were printing money, then why would you need to sell bonds? You do one or the other.
Speaker 3:Right? So we issue bonds that the Federal Reserve buys. The Federal Reserve prints money. That's not part of the government. This is the misconception.
Speaker 3:This is probably why he's bumbling around, because he knows the real answer, which is the Federal Reserve is not federal. It's not a reserve. It's it's a it's a basically seven cartel owning banker families that through the Federal Reserve Act in 1913, schmoozed all of the Congress and all of America saying we can print money out of thin air by printing, pressing the red button on the printing press, and you're going to pay us interest for that to the federal government. So when we need money as a country, we sell bonds. The buyer of last resort is the Federal Reserve.
Speaker 3:So the Federal Reserve prints money. They buy our bonds. That's how it works. So everything that he said is wrong, and he should know this. And if he doesn't, he has absolutely zero business advising the president on economic matters because this is basic.
Speaker 3:But this is maybe why we have inflation that we can't control, why most families in America are living hand to mouth paycheck to paycheck, because he just keeps printing money to buy the bonds. Now the the Fed has this toxic balance sheet of all kinds of US treasuries that nobody else in the world is wanting right now. China's dumping. The Russia is dumping them. The the European Union's dumping them.
Speaker 3:Bank of Japan is dumping them. The the US Treasury is is not the safe haven bellwether blue chip Treasury that it used to be because we're printing too much money, because we've got a guy like this whispering into the president's ear. And if he whispered that into the president's ear, I don't know what the I mean, yes, we've got the outcome that we've got, but I don't know how anybody could understand what he actually said because he doesn't even understand it.
Seth Holehouse:Do you think that he doesn't understand, or do you think that he's trying to hide something? Like, he's trying to give an answer, like you mentioned that, like you alluded to that maybe doesn't reveal what's actually going on because this may, you know, I'm not sure where the interview came from. Maybe it was on CBS money or it looks like it was probably more mainstream. So do you What do think?
Speaker 3:It's a documentary on modern monetary theory that he was being interviewed on the documentary, and then it was aired on Fox Business saying, what? This guy doesn't understand modern monetary theory. We don't understand. So it was he was being interviewed for a documentary that's going to be aired and now it went on mainstream media. So I do think that he probably knows, although I started listening to other interviews that he's done recently about inflation, and I began to wonder if he actually understands monetary policy.
Speaker 3:I don't know what his background is. I don't know if he is an investment banker. I don't I don't know anything about his background. But I'll tell you this much. He struggles to.
Speaker 3:When he's asked questions about the unemployment rate and the labor force and interest rate policy and inflation and all of these mechanisms, he struggles a lot to answer them. So I don't know what his background is, but what I do, if he's advising the president on the most important thing in our country, my guess is that he knows. That he knows how this works. And he's fumbling around because he has to choose his words carefully because he doesn't want to let The US population know that the Federal Reserve isn't actually part of the US government. It is a private bank that gets interest from The United States when they ask them to print money.
Speaker 3:And when nobody else wants our treasuries, the Fed, the New York Federal Reserve, will buy the U. S. Treasuries with money that they print out of thin air. That's the answer that he doesn't want to give because that exposes the whole game. So therefore, when asked about it, he's fumbling around and he says, well, the government prints money and the government borrows money.
Speaker 3:And this is this is not this is not shouldn't be that confusing. It's like, well, it is confusing when the government actually doesn't print money. They don't. The Fed prints money.
Seth Holehouse:The question I have then is if you look at a lot of Biden's policies, you could argue that a lot of them seem to be intentionally destroying America. Open border, for one. I I mean, any number of things, you know, unsecuring our our grid, giving access to our power grid to, you know, Iran and China, for example. There's a lot of things that he's done that even probably your average American now is thinking is is is, like, is it just poor? Is it bad president?
Seth Holehouse:Or is he actually trying to destroy America? Because it seems like he's trying to destroy America. Now, I know that economically, if you can you know, economics can be a weapon of war. Right? So you sent me another article, which I think is really worth us looking at, which is your head saying, are we destroying the economy on purpose, which in a lot of ways also, I think, imply, are we destroying America on purpose?
Seth Holehouse:So walk us through what this is about. What what's the point being made here?
Speaker 3:Yeah. So there's there's a couple of ways to actually destroy America now. How is China doing it? China wants to strike fear into the hearts and minds of people. And I believe that they use Iran as a proxy for that to send drones into Israel.
Speaker 3:You know, fear, fear, fear also. So if you create enough fear and how else could you create fear through the banking system? Right. If somebody is fearful that their bank is going to run out of money or their bank is going to close, what people start to do is they start to give away their freedoms, their religious freedoms, economic freedoms, political, social. I mean, all of these freedoms they'll give away in exchange for perceived security peace.
Speaker 3:So this what we're seeing right now is nothing new. The Cloward Pyvin theory goes all the way back to 1966, way before I was I wasn't even born then. Right? This goes back a long ways. So the Cloward Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in '66 by an American sociologist and political activist Richard Cloward and Francis Piven.
Speaker 3:The strategy aims to utilize militant anti poverty groups to facilitate a political crisis by overloading the welfare system via an increase in welfare claims, basically forcing the creation of a system of guaranteed minimum income and redistributing income through the federal government. So this is right out of the rules for radicals playbook. It's right out of Obama's community organizer playbook, where you create fear and uncertainty and you use militant anti poverty groups to start sounding the warning bells. It's like, hey, the economy stinks. We need guaranteed minimum income.
Speaker 3:It's not fair that we can't pay our bills. And let's redistribute that from the evil billionaires and to all of us that have needs, and we'll use the government to do that through excessive taxation. Right? So this is basically what this is all about, this Cloward Piven strategy. And Seth, we're seeing this play itself out right underneath our nose.
Speaker 3:And people are unaware. They're just thinking the economy is collapsing. I think it's all part of it. I think social unrest, upheaval, economic imbalances, all of that is part of what we're seeing underneath this. What's actually clearly the the byproduct of the rules for radicals playbook.
Seth Holehouse:Even if if you go back to that I'll pull that article up really quickly here. So it says that, you know, Cloward and Piper were both professors at the Columbia University School of Social Work. Alright? Whenever I see social anything, I mean, it may I mean, I'm not gonna cast an umbrella over it all, but typically, think, oh, socialist. Right?
Seth Holehouse:Social welfare programs. Social this. So but even you can see the strategy. It says that their article was focused on subversively compelling the Democratic Party, which in '66 controlled the presidency in both houses, to redistribute income to help the poor. I mean, that's communism.
Seth Holehouse:Right? Yeah. It's wealth redistribution. Well, who does who redistributes it? How much they they put in their own pocket?
Seth Holehouse:So they said here below, the ultimate objective of the strategy to wipe out poverty by establishing a guaranteed annual income will be questioned by some, But the ideal of individual social and economic mobility has deep roots. Even activists seem reluctant to call for national programs to limit poverty by the outright redistribution of income. So and this is this is scary stuff. So what what this article that we pulled up on on zero hedge here. Right?
Seth Holehouse:Are we destroying the economy on on purpose? So is this is this what we're, you know, the author here? Is this what they're asserting? Is it it's this exact strategy that's being basically rolled out in America? And how does it relate to the modern America we see?
Seth Holehouse:Is it like the the immigrant welfare, all the illegals coming in and draining know, kinda getting on the welfare system? Or how do you make sense of this as it applies to our our modern American economy?
Speaker 3:Well, you can't really make sense of it. I mean, so I was in this article on zero hedge. There's a statement. Where is the common sense in any of the policy decisions of this government and of the Federal Reserve? Or is it simply just too stupid to be stupid?
Speaker 3:I thought that was a great quote because you can't continue to print money and fund everything under the sun and expect to still get away with it over time. So Elon Musk, over over the weekend, warned about this very issue over Biden's massive deficit spending. So he was sounding sounding the warning bells, but he's not alone. So he said, we need to do something about our national debt or the dollar will be worth nothing. It's like, how could the dollar be worth nothing?
Speaker 3:Well, when you don't have tangible backing backing it and you keep printing to fund all this stuff, it devalues that currency and it takes way more of that junk currency to buy valuable goods and services. That's what inflation is. But we keep printing like that. The dollar will ultimately devalue so much that approaches zero. Now, we've got things happening.
Speaker 3:You know that Cloward Piven issue. General McMaster also on May 3 said World War three is coming. We need to double our defense spending now. I said, Okay, spending. Got to double spending because out of fear, people are going to start making stupid decisions.
Speaker 3:World War three is coming. Right? We've got overspending. You know, COVID, Biden signed in December of twenty twenty one the Build Back Better program. Remember that dumb thing?
Speaker 3:They were going to make America amazing, and they were gonna build it back to where it was but better. Right? Well, they spent $2,000,000,000,000 to build back better in America, but we're not any better. We're actually worse. So they spent $2,000,000,000,000, and I don't know what the outcome was.
Speaker 3:So now when you have that and you've got all this inflation, nothing is getting better. Economy is not better. They're not increasing a ton of jobs. Wages aren't going up. They're actually coming down.
Speaker 3:Inflation is persisting. Interest rates are rising. It's like, what about that 2,000,000,000,000 that you spent? What did you spend it on? It didn't make anything better.
Speaker 3:It actually made things worse because that it creates more inflation. So now over the weekend, Berkshire Hathaway had their annual shareholder meeting. And that's always like something that everybody looks at because Warren Buffett's so smart. They want to hear what he has to say. Well, he said a couple of things.
Speaker 3:Number one, I mean, the guy's getting really old. And the first thing he says is, I hope to be around for the next annual shareholder meeting. It's like, boy, that's morbid. But what else he said is this overspending actually needs to stop and taxes are going to go up. In his exact words, he said higher taxes are likely.
Speaker 3:So why does he say that they're likely? Just like Elon Musk, he warned about the important consequences of deficit spending. And you got to realize he's a Democrat. Right? He's he's not even liking Bidenomics right now.
Speaker 3:So in this meeting, they own I can't remember, Seth, what what streaming service it is that Berkshire Hathaway owns. It might be Paramount Plus or something like that. One of the streaming services, he's dumping them. He's dumping those shares. Why?
Speaker 3:Because it's extremely unprofitable. See, this is kind of an unofficial leading indicator of where things are going because when people don't have money, they stop buying the frivolous things like streaming services. So he's dumping it because it's so nonprofitable. And to me, that's that's a foreshadowing of things to come, that it is going to get worse. Buffett seeing it.
Speaker 3:Elon Musk is seeing it. The only ones who really aren't seeing it are are the chief of the Council of Economic Advisors and Biden himself. Now, the press secretary is probably getting sick and tired of lying constantly on every press meeting. So she had somebody else do her bidding, and it was Mark Hamill, Luke Skywalker. So at the last press meeting, he gets up there and saying, you know, we're winning this war on inflation.
Speaker 3:It's like, buddy, just because you were trained by Yoda doesn't mean that you're wise. Right? But they're having other people that would have influence in this world on the hearts and minds of people who people think they're smart. I mean, who's smarter than Luke Skywalker? Right?
Speaker 3:Who's I mean, this is insane that he'd be up there talking about how we're winning this battle against inflation because our press secretary probably thought, oh, maybe it's going to be more reputable if somebody else other than me talks about how we're winning this battle. So I would venture to guess in this election year, you're going to have all kinds of celebrities who know nothing about nothing touting all these great things that Biden has done when actually it's not true. It's not true. We are not winning the battle against inflation just because Luke Skywalker says it. It's almost cosmic.
Seth Holehouse:He was
Speaker 3:trained by Yoda. Right? But
Seth Holehouse:Well, Yoda was like a double Ph. D. In finance, right? He was
Speaker 3:Yoda was a smart little creature. I mean, seriously. I mean, this it's it's becoming ridiculous.
Seth Holehouse:It's clown.
Speaker 3:They don't have any foundational underpinnings to brag about in this economy. So they're having celebrities that people might trust start to talk about stuff when they don't know. I mean, you can't listen to the chief of the Council of Economic Advisers. You can't listen to Biden. I mean, both of them sound about the same.
Speaker 3:Incoherent nonsense that actually doesn't make sense. I actually feel after Jacob Bernstein spoke, I almost feel dumber. I mean, I may have lost brain cells because it was so bad. I mean, wow, how could this be? I mean, I was shocked and appalled by it because this is the economic advice that's being given to our president.
Speaker 3:No wonder we're in a mess.
Seth Holehouse:Well, the fact that they're bringing Mark Hamill out, which you wanna see the public's reaction if you like, some are seeing him on Twitter, and he shared a few things that were very pro Biden. The comments just eviscerated him. Like, was I I don't think I saw a single positive comment. Like, I'm convinced that the actual approval rating of the Biden administration's probably lower than 15%. Like, at this point, if you if you can look at that administration and think, hey, they're doing a great job and I approve.
Seth Holehouse:There's something wrong with your brain. Or you're just watching so much Rachel Maddow, and that's it that you don't see you your your view of reality is so skewed from propaganda that you no longer see truth, and it's frightening. I mean, it's it's it's scary that, again, you know, that they're bringing Mark Hamill out to try to convince people that Biden's doing a great job with the economy. I mean, it's like, but but, you know, know, they do trust is this guy right here, Elon Musk. This is a guy that people trust.
Seth Holehouse:He's the guy that's got, you know, what, hundred million followers or whatever massive number on Twitter. So him coming out, it's like, I'll trust the richest guy in the world or at least on paper. Right? We don't see, you know, European families, but in terms of, like, I'll trust Elon Musk when he says something. But him coming out saying the dollar will be worth nothing, I mean, this is exactly what you and I have been talking about.
Seth Holehouse:Like, this this is this is what we're talking this is hyperinflation. This is the collapse of the the dollar system of the fiat currency. This is to me, this is the warning that we should all be watching.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, when you've got alternative currencies, cryptocurrency, Bitcoin, things like that starting to go up, it's because people are losing faith and confidence. But when I look at cryptocurrency and I look at gold and silver, they have the same fundamentals that drive their move upwards. Number one is privacy.
Speaker 3:People like decentralized blockchain cryptocurrency because it's private and they want growth. Why do people go into gold and silver? Because it's private. It's not digital. You know, it's it's something tangible and real, and it has growth.
Speaker 3:So to me, the fundamentals behind cryptocurrency and gold and silver, why people want them, are the same. Now, the reality is they're not quite the same. Right? Because cryptocurrency is still digital, it's easy to flip off the switch to your coin wallet and saying, oh, based on your IP address, boy, you're from Russia. We're gonna cut you off.
Speaker 3:You can't access any of your money. They did do that. So Russians can't get their money out of Coinbase because this war that's happening with Russia and Ukraine. But let's take it one step further. Let's just say it's not just Russia that they don't like.
Speaker 3:They don't like you because you're a Christian and you donate to a church. They don't like you because of your political ideology or anything. I mean, you could go on and on and on about the number of reasons why somebody may like or not like somebody. So anything that you can flip off with a switch, whether you have access to your funds or not, I don't like. That's not safe.
Speaker 3:It might be private. There might be growth, but it's not safe. And I would beg to differ that it might be kind of private, but your coin wallet, your token wallet isn't because that's still attached to your bank account. They still know who you are. They still know how much you have in there.
Speaker 3:And if you can't get it, you can't get it. That's not real. So therefore, fundamentals kind of those two type of sectors are very similar and why people go into them. But one of them is safe and one of them is not. And I would allocate for safety in this overreach world where they want to know everything about everybody and all things and basically create robots that serve them and their globalist needs.
Speaker 3:I don't want anything that's digital, Seth. Nothing. I want tangible assets like gold and silver that protect and preserve and can grow and can thrive, but they're safe.
Seth Holehouse:They're
Speaker 3:safer, and they're private.
Seth Holehouse:Folks can go to goldwithseth.com. And what's the phone number people can call, Kirk?
Speaker 3:Seven two zero six zero five three nine zero zero. That's (720) 605-3900 or simply and tell them Seth sent you or simply go to goldwithseth.com.
Seth Holehouse:Perfect. Kirk, thank you so much, man. Have a great rest of your day.
Speaker 3:I will. You too.