#45 - Google's new AI glasses: The inside story - Juston Payne

This is a special episode of The Deep View Conversations podcast, recorded at Google I/O on Tuesday, May 19, 2026. 

AI smart glasses have quietly built momentum over the past several years, promising to put artificial intelligence directly in your line of sight. Now, Google has shown us the final product of its first AI glasses, which appear to have a clear competitive edge. 

Juston Payne, Google's director of product management for XR, joins The Deep View Conversations straight from Google I/O, where the company pulled the curtain back and gave the world a first look at two of the pairs that will lead the collection when they launch in the fall: a pair from Gentle Monster and one from Warby Parker. 

Juston discusses how the AI smartglasses came to be, including the collaboration between Samsung, Google, Warby Parker, and Gentle Monster. In addition to discussing details of the new launch, including design, product choices, functionality, the roadmap, and more, Juston also sheds light on the broader AI glasses market and why people should give them a shot. 

Topics covered:

+ The thought put into the aesthetics and comfort of smart glasses

+ What products will be available for users to purchase at launch

+ How the glasses act as an equivalent of a touchscreen on a phone for interacting with Gemini

+ The computation offloading strategy that leverages the user’s smartphone 

+ The choice to first launch with an audio-only product rather than in-lens displays

+ How Google is approaching privacy concerns with the cameras on the glasses

+ Real-world use cases for AI smart glasses 

If you want to understand how AI glasses are reshaping the way people connect, this conversation will leave you much more knowledgeable about Google's strategy. 

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Juston, thank you so much for joining me on the podcast today. Thank you for having me. For all of our listeners, I want to kind of tell them how this actually happened. We were at an event. We were at Mobile World Congress, and then I found him and we realized that we're both smart glasses nerds. Well, this is actually what you do for a living, and me, well, I guess... You do it for a living as well. Yeah. So we are... We were paid smart glasses nerds, but we were, and then we just chatted for like 40 minutes about smart glass, and we were like, wait, we need to do this again, and this time on the record. So here we are, and thank you again. Juston, why don't you tell our listeners a bit about what you do here at Google? Yeah. Well, first, I'm so happy that we are now doing this on the record. This is fantastic. I lead the product management team for XR at Google, so we are looking after the Android XR platform, the glasses, the headsets, the immersive devices, everything built on there. We're also responsible for bringing Google's first party apps onto the platform, and of course, building Gemini into it. So we're at Google IO right now, and I unknowingly booked this, just again, to nerd out about smart glasses, but there was actually a pretty big announcement today, and we got finally the first look at the Samsung, Google, Warby Parker, Gentle Monster collab smart glasses. So how about we talk a bit about that? Yeah. So let's start there. So yeah, this was the world's first sneak peek at what the glasses will actually look like. Now, when they launch, there will be a full collection, and today what we saw was was that we saw one design, one from Warby Parker, and then another design, so two total, one from Warby, one from Gentle Monster. And what this was is really saying, hey, we're taking this eyewear-first approach, so we have to make great-looking glasses that people will happily wear all day. And then once you do that, then you have sort of earned the right to make smart glasses. And so we showed what those will look like. I think they look incredible. But of course, a lot of the focus today was about what they will do. So we are building Gemini into the core of this platform. It's all about letting you get more out of your physical world and your digital world. And we think that when you start with these designs that look as great as the glasses that you saw today, you create this opportunity for people to engage with the people around them with their digital lives in a whole new way. So let's start there with the design, because I do think that that's like, even though there's a lot of layers to this, that's like the biggest thing of today. I was super excited to see smart glasses that actually looked like an accessory. I feel like so far, for the most part, they all kind of have that very standard black frame, like boxy look, which is good and great, and it serves the wide population. But I like that, you know, these take a little bit more of a risk. I guess that was intentional. Yeah. Look, Warby Parker and Gentle Monster are two incredibly innovative, in their own rights, forward-looking eyewear companies. They both have leaned into design in their own ways, and they've really managed to stake out their companies on this ethos of thinking differently about eyewear. And that, of course, resonates with us greatly here at Google, because our whole approach here is different from what's happening out there right now. Of course, the glasses will do everything that you would expect them to. So they take beautiful photos, they're great for listening to music, taking phone calls, all of that stuff. But we do have a belief that they can do a lot more than what's been seen in the world right now. So this idea that Gemini is this multimodal AI can understand what's going on around you, but it also talks to your phone, and this is a really critical thing. So it knows what's happening in your digital world. So we're taking this whole new approach to how smart glasses really work and what they can do. And for us, we really want to start with these eyewear companies that have thought so differently about eyewear. So let's start with Warby Parker. Warby Parker. They launched as this sort of insurgent company in the eyewear industry doing, if you might remember this, they started by doing mail order glasses, basically. So you pick a design and they'd send you a kit and you tried them on, you'd send them back. They've since expanded out nationwide, hundreds of stores, and they have this incredibly beautiful customer experience that they bring to life there. So a whole different experience. Yeah, my everyday glasses are Warby Parker glasses, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's very common. You know, people love them. It's a very easy, seamless experience. I feel like it's just one of those things, like there's so many locations you walk in, you get your glasses and you walk out and there's so many frames to pick from. It's convenient. So I could see why that would be especially helpful for AI smart glasses too, like just being able to have that convenience of all and also that like trust. You already know the brand. You're ready to probably trust that you might have gotten glasses there once before. And yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. And they've invested so much in their customer experience in the store. They have their reference desk where you walk in there and there's this expert that you can talk to. So that's Warby Parker, Gentle Monster, incredibly innovative, forward-looking, future-looking company. They are all about emotion. You walk into their stores and you're confronted by these incredible objects, by this whole environment that's different from anything that you've really felt before when you walk into certainly an eyewear store, maybe any store, frankly. And so when you take these two together, you say, okay, we're working with partners who really are going to take a fresh approach to this face and will understand the way that Google is trying to push this space forward. And the end result of it are these objects, these pairs of glasses that I really do think are beautiful. They're comfortable as well. We've worked very closely with them and Samsung to make sure that they're light, comfortable, balanced. You can put your prescriptions in there. You can get all the lens tints that you want. So they serve as a great pair of glasses, certainly. But there is this underlying ethos, as you said, of doing something differently. And that's very important to us. I love those Gentle Monster glasses. I feel like if I would have seen them at a store, I would have gravitated towards them without the smart glasses component to it. That's just an added bonus. But I am curious. We have demoed or I've demoed them now. I demoed them last year at Google IO, like a prototype of them. And then I demoed them again at MWC. So the technology has been there. It's been ready for a minute. Why now? Why did it take so long? And why is today finally the right time, I guess, to launch? And also, we should talk about it. These are preliminary, right? These are audio only. So this is like stage one of the full experience, which will have the lens displays. But I guess, first, let's start with why now? Yeah, it's a wonderful question. So there's first, why now? We've been working on this for a while. And then there's the question of, and what comes next? Both great questions. So first, why now? It honestly, it all comes down to one thing, which is quality. So it's true. We've been working on glasses for years. Google, if you want to go all the way back, we had Google Glass. So we learned a lot from that program. But then coming a lot more recently, we've been working on glasses in one form or another for quite a number of years. And like you said, we've been demoing them for a while. Now what is important to us that when we launch is that this is an incredibly high quality experience. So what is quality beam? Well, it takes a whole lot of force. One of them is, of course, on the hardware itself. So it has to be reliable, it has to be light, it has to be comfortable. It was a little tricky because you're not actually making the hardware, right? So like you're relying on these partners to also execute that vision. But that's still aligned with your quality standards, right? Exactly right. And so us, Samsung, Warby Parker, Gentle Monster, we all share this. We all say, look, we've come together to make this brand new pair of eyewear on a brand new form. We have to do this really well. So yeah, so there's hardware quality and we're all working together there. There's actually another, there's a few dimensions even to that. When we launch these, it has to be a collection. So we really believe that this is an eyewear first approach. We have an eyewear first strategy. When eyewear, which is fundamentally fashion, launches, there's collections. So what you saw today, these were two examples that there will be more. All right, when we launch, and of course we'll start. When you launch in the fall. Yeah, I launch in the fall, there will be more. So getting all of those ready, that takes time. So part of a high quality launch is making sure that you have a whole collection ready to go. And then we can start looking into the rest of it. So you have to have a platform, all of the nuts and bolts of it. Is that connection to the phone that I mentioned earlier, is it rock solid? Is it highly performant? Is it low power? You know, all that stuff. Gemini is sitting on top of it. Low latency, really smart, very reliable. Hooks into all of your apps. So when you say, hey, I want you to schedule a new calendar payment on my Google calendar. Does that happen very reliably, just as you want? So really going through each and every detail, sweating the details. It's the kind of thing that there's no need to rush it. We're really excited about what we're making. You can't wait to get it out there. But first and foremost, that'd do it well. Yeah, but even like the in-lens from the demos I've done, granted the demos are pretty short. They're like five minutes, I think, if you keep me honest. But like the in-lens displays, every time I'm like amazed at like how great they look. They look crisp, but you know, you see what you need to see. I've never done it where it's like, oh, this thing is glitching terribly. Actually, this is obviously not ready. Why are we starting off audio? Are we not there yet? Or is this also just like an introduction to people and like, OK, this is step one. And then when you feel more comfortable, we'll move on. Yeah, the approach to the work thing is a great question. It's very much about let's build as solid a foundation as we can and make sure that that's going really well. Then you can start to layer things on top of it. One of those things is the display. But there's actually lots of things, different sensor configurations, different applications, Gemini capabilities. And so this is now where we get into road now. And for us, it's all about starting really, really sound foundation. And then we can choose how we build out from there. One nice thing, by the way, about this whole approach of how we've been doing demos on display glasses is that we believe that all display glasses will actually have to have a great audio mode anyway. And the reason for that is like you don't really want the display on all the time. There's going to be plenty of times that you still want it as an audio interface. So what we're doing is that we're basically building this audio mode for display glasses first, and then you get to add in the display part of it later down the road. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. With audio mode, we also have a camera. Like despite the fact that we just keep referring to it as audio, there is that multimodal component that's really critical for Gemini to work as well as it does. Because in my opinion, the best thing about AI smart glasses is that they give AI the ability to see the world from your point of view. Yes. But I know we talked about before, again, when we were just nerding out about like people's concerns with privacy and like some people still want the AI assistants, don't quite want the camera, don't want to take it that extra step. So you found a solution to accommodate for both, right? Yeah. So our approach here is that the glasses will have cameras in them. Now, once you add a camera, there's all this benefit to it. So you can take photos, videos, so your AI can understand what's going on around you. Sharam mentioned during the keynote that he loves cooking with them. So, you know, like the only way that the glasses will be able to say like, hey, those carrots look about done, or yes, that whale is shimmery, is seeing it as a camera. So there's all this benefit to it. But as you said, once you introduce the camera into it, you also have to take rides extremely seriously. So this is where, and we'll share a lot more about this later, but we are doing things that are, you know, intended to set a bar and hold it pretty high. So we'll have all of the obvious things like a clear LED that's on. And, you know, if you cover the LED, the camera starts working. We'll use Android security permissions and the whole stack. And there's a lot more innovation that's going to be in the platform. So our approach here is to say, look, there's a ton of value to when your glasses can perceive the world around here. We can just generally make you more capable. And that's an exciting thing. But with that comes the real responsibility. And we feel that we have to be fully mean to there as well. How did you factor in the approach like a lot of people do of like, okay, there's going to be these smart glasses and we're going to have one version with cameras and one version without cameras. Is that something that you considered? Is that something that we could expect with full rollout or? Yeah, I mean, right now our focus is going to be on the configuration that we showed. In the future, absolutely. There's going to be this platform basically enables different configurations. And so actually an example of this is the fact that these start without a display, but then later we can add in a display. So you can sort of, you know, like, I don't mean it literally into those exact glasses, but I mean that like different configurations will come out that have a display. And so similarly, it's not far to imagine that the platform can flex to add and remove components. So that's generally the approach that we'll take. There's nothing to announce right now, though. Yeah, add along to the camera, yeah. Yeah, looking down loads, you know, these sort of things are possible. I know right now there is like, you know, a leader in the smart glass industry. And obviously Google hasn't entered it yet, but it's Meta Ray-Bans. And those are audio smart glasses too. So I usually, when I was thinking about how Google would fit in and compete, my thing was always like, well, they're in lens displays and I've tried prototypes. They're nice, they're light, they're comfortable, and they're honestly, they're great. But with this, we don't have that exact differentiator, right? But we, my take would be that there's still a competitive factor. And I would say it's the aesthetics. They're very unique. And also the reliance on Gemini and how Gemini's just built such a huge name as being a really capable AI assistant. Curious what you think the competitive edge is there. Yeah, you know, our approach here, really honestly, is that we really have tried to take a pretty tight focus on where there's user value here. And we think that other companies who are playing in this space have done a good job in certain areas, see our photography and music and that kind of thing. We see a ton of user value in applying AI to people's lives in this low friction way. So concretely what that means, it means that, you know, like right now, if you do want to understand the world around you, or you want to use Gemini to take action on some of your apps, you do have to interrupt what you're doing, take out your phone and go through that. Now that's okay in some situations, you know, you love phones, phones are great, but there are plenty of situations when it's really nice to have this instant access. And so for us, there's a few approaches that we're taking to bring that vision to reality that are pretty meaningfully different. We're going to walk through two on the kind of like user side of it, and then one on the platform enabling side. So on the user side, I've already said it, but just to make it clear, building Gemini in as the kind of core experience here is a pretty different approach. Because what it means is that it sort of serves dual duty. One, it's how you interact with the glasses. So you can almost think of it like the touch screen for glasses. So instead of touching them a lot, you talk to them. And Gemini understands your intent, it can take action on their behalf. And so it, as a means of interaction is a pretty different approach, though it's okay. Second thing is that we do lean a lot on the apps that you would have. So our understanding that we've gotten of glasses is that people want their glasses to be amazingly versatile. It's amazing, but when you do user studies, people come up with an amazing diversity of ways that they want to use their glasses. In short, they want them to be as versatile as their phones are. Okay, cool. The way that you make them as versatile as the phones is you make it work with the phone and the apps that are already on your phone. So the second big difference from user value perspective is that we are giving people access to the apps on their phone via the glasses, and then sort of translating it to the glasses usage model. So first thing, Gemini built into the core, it's pretty different. Second, leaning into all the apps on their phone, pretty different. And then the third thing, it's a little more subtle, is that we're offloading almost all the computation from the glasses to your phone. So what that means is that instead of running the apps up here, you're running the apps down here in your phone. Now that's meaningful for a few reasons. One of the- I'm assuming one of these ones, yeah. So power, yeah, we think about it, which is that phones are very powerful. They have a lot of power up there. From a battery life perspective, big advantages because phones are optimized here, then you're not doing all the computation up here. That's great. They run locally too, right? So that has those safety methods too, yeah. So then apps that are already optimized to run locally, they'll do that. You're already running whole architectures that some is local, some go to the cloud. We can hook into all that stuff. Now from a user standpoint, why do they care? Yeah. The reason that they care is because the glasses stay smaller or lighter because we're not as dependent on battery for the computation up here. They care because they do have access to all their apps on their phones. That's the second point. And developers care because they're not having to rebuild apps for the head. Rather, they're still just building glasses apps. So it's a very, very meaningfully different approach when you think about it like that. And ultimately though, this is a bunch of words, all it really means is that users get a pair of glasses that are easier to use and more versatile. And they're like an extension of their phone, right? Cause that's the goal. I have a question at that. I was surprised, pleasantly pleased, but surprised at the fact that they're going to be compatible with both iOS too. But then how do you factor in for the fact that like, again, Gemini, I guess you can download it and I actually do have the Gemini app downloaded on one of my devices happens to be an iPhone. So, and it still does work well, but it's less natively built into obviously iOS and like actually an Android device. How do you factor for that with the smart glasses too? Yeah, so there will of course be certain platform limitations between the two. And this is just a function of what is Apple enables on iOS versus what is a Google enables on Android. So where there are certain limitations, those will of course exist here as well. The important message there though is that if you want a pair of glasses that, you know, like you have access to Gemini all day long and you love the design from Warby Parker, Gentle Monster, great news. If you have an iPhone, you can use it there and get all that value. There's going to be details that we share down the road about exactly where there are little differences in there, but the core value prop, I want to use Gemini. I want to use Google maps. I want Google translate, all these sorts of things. Those will both spam. And will it span both ecosystems? So one part of the demo I thought today was cool was out of the demo where it took a photo and then I think process it through probably nano banana and then like it showed up on the watch face. So like that ecosystem integration, I think is pretty incredible. And honestly, a big differentiator too, from other ones on the market at the moment, will it ever be able to work kind of that seamlessly too on the iOS experience or no, cause there's limitations there. We'll get into all the details about iOS and Android later. So we'll have to come back to that one. But what you're touching on is super important here, which is that we do believe that people exist in this ecosystem of devices. You know, we all have lots of devices. So watches, humanings, guest phones. Yeah. Lots of folks, yes. For those of us who work in the industry, can problem. So we have all of these devices and we do believe that people's expectation and it's a reasonable one cause you can make a better user experience is that they're aware of each other. They actually do give, as we like to say here, a better together experience. And so that was one example of it, which is that, you know, just again, user value. If you take a picture in your buses, you want to know what they captured. Right now, there are solutions. You could take your phone out of your pocket, but wouldn't it be nice if you could just give it a quick glance on your wrist? It's better. So that was one example. And you correctly saw one that in there, which is, yeah, we did take a photo and add a blimp and all this stuff. Yes. That went to Nano Banana, then sends the picture down to the user's phone. And then that, in that case, Nish's phone, the Nish's phone, sent it to her watch. And then all in that flow, you saw all these integrations. So that's glasses to phone, phone to Gemini, Gemini back to phone, phone to watch. And it was pretty quick too, cause that was in real time. So that's pretty impressive. It's pretty good. Yeah. I mean, and you know, when we talk about like quality, quality, quality, these are the sorts of things that when we first tried that, took a lot. And then you look at it and you're like, well, it's really cool. It's definitely an ability that doesn't have, that's not out there right now, but we do need to hit a certain quality bar before we ship it. And so this is, it's a nice example of an integration and a fluidness and a sort of natural language aspect to it that we needed that whole thing to work properly. I know people are probably questioning or wondering why I haven't gone into like specs, like battery life price and all of that. That's cause we don't know yet, but that's coming. But it's top of mind, of course, for me too. And I'm very excited to learn those details. But before we wrap up, I do want to get your opinion on why smart glasses or specifically AI smart glasses are even worth people investing their time, at least trying, getting to know, or even purchasing. Because it's still like pretty early in the smart glasses space, I would say. Look, yeah, I think that this question, a lot comes down to people's personal usage. And then when they think about how they use their phones, what I have found for myself, what we found with a lot of our own testing and in certainly in many user studies, is that when people think about the ways that they use their phone, there are many instances that they would prefer to stay anchored in what they're doing in the real world than go to their phone in that moment. So I can rattle off examples here. And some are my own, some are from studies, some are from team members and so on. So I'll start with a team member. So Max on my team. Max is a big World Cup fan. And Max, basically, he wanted to add a whole bunch of World Cup games to this calendar because he was watching something or other and he had just had the idea. So one way to do that is that he could have opened his phone on Google Calendar and looked at his schedule and sort of like typed a bunch of things in. Or he could say, hey, you know, Tonki knows this, and say, can you actually add all of the World Cup games that include whatever team he likes on? And then Gemini automatically took that action on its behalf, went into Google Calendar, scheduled them. So it's a simple practical example of how it can, just having eyewear on you that you can talk to accelerates normal tasks. Now, there's so many other examples here. So one that comes up all the time, we talked about cooking earlier. Anything that's hands-free and needs a camera, that greatly, like basically, those use cases become a lot easier. So we have somebody attaching a bike to his, I think his kid's, sorry, a basket to his kid's bicycle. And he had Gemini walk him in through those fast steps. There's other examples, very simple stuff. Google Maps, you know, I would rather get around keeping my eyes on the world, great. When using the camera there, we can actually overlay with the cameras, use with Street View, and then we can precisely orient you. So we can say, hey, you're going the wrong way, turn around, you do that really quickly. Or, you know, your destination is down there, and it's just on the left. That's cause we can see where you're looking. I'm glad you said that, cause when I first heard of the turn-by-turn navigation, I was like, okay, so is it just going to be like wearing my headphones and just hearing like, okay, turn left. But that's actually very helpful. So that's the extra layer of it actually knowing and seeing where you're actually going. Yeah, that's exactly right. And so there's like these opportunities to bring in the perception of the glasses and then overlay them with existing apps and just make it a more convenient, a bit more precise experience. I'll end with my own personal use case. I've been using Gemini as a running coach. I've been trying to improve on 5K time. Shout out to my son, he's 11, who just beat me in 5K, which is kind of impressive. So I've been using it as a running coach, but part of running is diet. So what are you eating pre, post-workout? So Google has cafes, we have little signs up. So each day I walk in, Gemini, through this feature called personal intelligence, knows our training plan. So then I can say, hey, for the workout that I'm doing tomorrow, what should I eat right now? It reads the menu to me and then tells me what to eat and the kind of portion sizes. So these are all little examples of how, right, yeah, where by breaking down the steps required to get in touch with AI, you can get all this new value from it. Or, you know, similarly, Google Maps. By using the hardware configuration, you can actually upgrade an experience that you've already been having. So these are all examples of why, I think, just to answer the question, why do I think that people are gonna be excited about it? It's because fundamentally, it lets you do a lot more of the physical world than the digital world's, because it's just so efficient. You know, and I also like, of the examples you just gave, there's something that almost feels more intuitive, ironically, of using a new device and asking your device to help you in those ways. And perhaps people who are just familiarizing themselves with AI, they won't feel as prone to taking out their phone, activating Gemini Live, and doing that, because it's not something they're used to doing quite yet, right? So this is supposed to, I guess, in a way almost help people take more advantage of the AI that's available, right? It is, yeah. It feels, you know, once you get used to it, it feels a little bit like you have an AI on your shoulder that you can just talk to all the time. And you can just say, hey, I wanna understand this better. I wanna do this thing. I'm trying to get to this place. Can you help me learn about it? Can you help me find? All of these things become so much easier when you can just have these quick conversations with the product that you're just naturally wearing all day. Yeah, I can't speak to comfort because I haven't tried them, but you have. So how is that? So I actually, speaking of running, I actually run in mine. So they are my go-to running glasses now. I have photochromic lenses in them, which means that, well, it's actually very, very convenient. So it means that when I go running, like I did this morning out here, I'm wearing the smart glasses. In the case of this morning, I was listening to music. Sometimes, because it appears to my phone, I'll use the running app that I have on my phone that tells me my old times and things like that. So the point you're being, they are absolutely comfortable enough for me to run in. And I also use them as my daily wear all day long. Yeah, that's my thing. I'm an eyeglass wearer, and I think that's why I love the whole category so much because I'm like, well, I actually have always hated the fact that I have to wear these glasses and most people don't have to deal with the inconvenience of wearing them. And I'm like, for the first time ever, they're an asset, right? Like it makes it, I could actually do more because I'm wearing these things and you're gonna have to get ones without prescriptions or something of that sort if you meant to take advantage of it. But one of my things with smart glasses, it's like, I wanna wear them, but I end up after like four or five hours just being so tired of having them on my face. So this is good to hear. We have completely obsessed with Warby Parker, Gentle Monster, and Samsung. We have all absolutely gotten this obsession with grams. It's all about how many, of course, are these things. And so we have, you know, we don't have specs to announce but they're very light, so that's great. We've cared a lot about weight balance in them. So the layout of components, where exactly is the weight sitting on your nose versus your ear, so forth, so they're comfortable. Basically, a lot of the R&D that's gone into this has, especially on the hardware side, has accrued to comfort. But the interesting thing just coming back to some of the different approaches that Google has taken is that by using the phone, as I mentioned, we get to do things like keep the battery smaller. Well, that's terrific because now all of us are getting them more comfortable. So it's all about the user benefit. It always comes back to the user and then the technology just supports that. So all these choices made it so that ultimately, I'm happy going for a nice six mile run and I'm not even aware that I'm wearing smart glasses other than the fact that they're talking to me. Well, with that, thank you so much for sharing all of this insight. And again, just giving me someone to talk to about smart glasses, we're pretty excited. Oh, that's right, just keep going. Exactly, and also I love innovative technology and not just in like a generic way, like something that really does pushes the envelope in a way we haven't done before. It sounds like these glasses will do that. It's adding to what we've seen on the market right now. It's pushing a whole category forward. I think that's pretty commendable at minimum. So congrats on that. Thank you. And yeah, thank you so much for chatting with me. It's been such a pleasure, thank you. Awesome, thank you. Yeah.