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The Chequered Flag Report Transcript
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[0:00] Chuck Hayes: Welcome to the Checkered Flag Report. This is Chuck Hayes with David Gould, and we're here talking F1. David, great to be with you. So much action, so much to discuss. And the best part about this is that we've got a race coming up this weekend. We don't have to wait like we have over multiple events and during the past month.
[0:19] David Gould: I'm. I'm hungry. Truck. Oh, I'm sorry. That's a very bad reference. I'm Hungarian. No, I'm not Hungarian. Anyway, yes, it was. Belgium. Was. There's a lot to talk about, man. This is. There's a crazy stuff going on out there. And, yeah, we got one more race, and then we got a vacation. Not for us.
[0:38] Chuck Hayes: No. But forever. We'll be on and on. We want to thank our presenting sponsor, Chavez Realty Development, Apartments, business affairs, real estate assessment. That's 626-449-1545. Chavez Realty Development, 626-44-491545. Okay, so we're gonna get right to it because there's so much going on, and I just want to kind of set the tone as I was getting ready to watch the race and they were going through the grid and.
[1:06] David Gould: And.
[1:06] Chuck Hayes: And how things line up, and I heard this quote that Fernando Alonso, from Aston Martin's main focus of the Belgian Grand Prix was to get home and watch World Cup Final.
[1:20] David Gould: Yeah.
[1:20] Chuck Hayes: And that was before the race. The lights went out.
[1:23] David Gould: Right.
[1:23] Chuck Hayes: I'm like, wow, that's kind of a strange attitude to have. And then I'm digging deeper, and I'm listening to Oscar Piastri say, when you've got qualifying grids decided by computers, behaving or misbehaving, it's a pretty bad way of going racing. And I'm not using the words that he used. So that leads right into our initial start, because the first lap of any F1 race is always a challenge. And the next thing you know, last week, Max Verstappen was in a gravel trap because he couldn't drive his car. This week, it was George Russell's turn.
[2:00] David Gould: Yeah. And I. I've got so much to say about it. I'm so worked up about it because I'm so unhappy with how these things are playing out. And as I've mentioned it ad nauseam, and forgive me, audience, I'm sorry, but these cars are very controversial. And that's. And that's putting it mildly.
[2:23] Chuck Hayes: Chuck Hayes with David Gould. Follow us at lvcheckered Flag. At lvchecker Flag. And what do you say David?
[2:29] David Gould: Well, just please follow us on LV checkered flag and give us a like and please retweet.
[2:35] Chuck Hayes: Okay. So if you're following George Russell and you're a guy that says, okay, it didn't go well for him this weekend, but what happened on the top of the, of the, of the podium, his teammate, Camp Kimmy Antonelli, his sixth win of the year, his eighth podium. So while we're digesting this and tearing it apart, it's Antonelli, it's the opportunity of the future of the sport. And then you have Charles LeClaire who's coming out of a bad like spring.
[3:12] David Gould: Yeah.
[3:12] Chuck Hayes: And also in the summer heats up and look at Charles Leclair and next to him 11 and a half seconds off the pace. Max Verstappen. That was the podium. So take me through from your insight.
[3:24] David Gould: Yes.
[3:25] Chuck Hayes: On the haves and have nots because Oscar Piastri is referencing what George Russell is living.
[3:33] David Gould: Right. And George is in a living hell right now because he gets in the car and he doesn't know whether he's going to be competitive or not. I mean this has got to mess with you psychologically at some point where you're going to step on the gas and you're going to expect a response, you know, or push a button or whatever, what have you, and you're going to expect a response. And it certainly played out that way in the first lap with the contact with Hamilton and you know, at first look, Hamilton got himself a penalty which as we've, Chuck and I have discussed is, is not necessarily fair because it doesn't look, I think Hamilton was doing what any racer would do. And, and then if from Hamilton's point of view, I'm looking at like to give him to be the devil's advocate here. It looked like he might have been just trying to defend because when he stepped in the gas there's no power, there's no, he had no battery power, no turbo power. And we're in the first lap of the race. It's, it's absolutely mind blowing.
[4:41] Chuck Hayes: And when you look at that and you hear what Piastri said and you're hearing that Fernando Alonzo is just going to drive around and hopefully get through the race so they can go home and watch World cup final.
[4:54] David Gould: Yeah.
[4:55] Chuck Hayes: With his mate Carlos Signs, who you know, Williams is having a, a season for no one to remember.
[5:01] David Gould: Right.
[5:02] Chuck Hayes: What is it like in the paddock and on the grid on race day with the drivers just like looking at each Other just like nodding like, hey, I'll try to stay out of your way, you stay out of my way and we'll make this work.
[5:15] David Gould: Well, one of the, one of the topics I want to, I want to go up is that if you look at the, if you look at the qualifying and then you go ahead and you look at the races, you, you're going to see this very often the same teams, the same guys at the bottom of the rung and if these guys can't do it in qualifying and the way qualifying works for people who don't know is that there's three rounds and after the first two rounds they eliminate the bottom five. The bottom five or six. And so those guys are in the back. They have, they don't have a second and third chance necessarily to, to make up for, for the bad run. And I just wonder what F1 is thinking and what's going. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in their headquarters and thinking about what this is and if I were Fernando Alonso, my God, man, this is ridiculous. This guy can't get out of the bottom five or dnf.
[6:17] Chuck Hayes: Well, good news. With our glass half full for the Hungary Hungarian Grand Prix, as in Martin Armaco Formula one team will introduce their chassis upgrade. We are working closely with them to support on the PU integration aspects. And that's from the folks at Honda, who is the engine provider for Aston Martin. Okay. So with that said. And I'm always trying to be positive
[6:45] David Gould: about this because I love and I feel terrible because I'm always being negative because. And I'll be honest with you, I am frustrated. I am very frustrated. And I follow, I follow a lot of experts on the Internet and all these guys that were saying give it a chance. New technology comes across all the time. Give it a chance. Now even they are starting to turn right.
[7:07] Chuck Hayes: But one of the things that we have to look at is that the 19 year old has 204 points, 6 wins and 8 podiums. Now, has it just been one of those circumstances where, you know, he had an engine failure where he had a power unit completely shut down and.
[7:24] David Gould: Right.
[7:24] Chuck Hayes: The only race he really didn't compete in.
[7:26] David Gould: Right.
[7:27] Chuck Hayes: Are you just saying was just one of those things and that he's been lucky more times than George Russell hasn't because, you know, they talked about this a little bit about in the garage, that it is one organization but two separate teams.
[7:43] David Gould: That's correct.
[7:44] Chuck Hayes: But if you're that organization, you want your second guy to be that competitive and in frankly and in Mercedes situation, they never looked at Antonelli as the league dog that it was always George Russell.
[7:59] David Gould: Right.
[8:00] Chuck Hayes: They brought Antonelli in to learn from him. Now it seems it's completely flipped and George Russell is having trouble looking himself in the mirror. I think it's just one of those like, why am I doing this with this team?
[8:11] David Gould: Right. And I don't know that he's going to have better luck on another team. Although Ferrari is doing well and Kimmy's car is doing well. Think about that. If Kimmy retired after this season, he'd have as many wins as some of the guys that spent their entire lives driving. Think about that.
[8:33] Chuck Hayes: That's a great point.
[8:33] David Gould: I mean that is just mind blowing. But nonetheless it doesn't. I think this thing is like a virus, personally. And maybe Kimmy's car hasn't caught the virus. Maybe the Ferraris are on point. But too regularly we're seeing too many of these of the same type of problem happening to too many cars. It's not just Russell because there are other drivers complaining about it too. And maybe you do not see it because they're in mid pack or back of the pack where the need to apply the battery and the turbocharge is not as necessary.
[9:14] Chuck Hayes: And when these guys are going out there and laying it on the line and all sudden in the midst of what you're doing, it doesn't work because there's a software glitch.
[9:23] David Gould: Oh, man.
[9:25] Chuck Hayes: And we saw that. I believe it was in Australia.
[9:28] David Gould: Yeah.
[9:28] Chuck Hayes: Early in the year when the car took off, it was like almost like you had a wide, wide open stuck throttle. We're gonna box, box, box. Coming up with four fresh Pirellis. Chuck Hayes with David Gould. Follow us at LV Checker Flag. lvchecker Flag. We come back inside Dave's brain. He's got some more side in regards to these electronic issues. Welcome back. Segment two Checkered Flag report. This is Chuck Hayes with David Gold and we're following up on a great racing weekend at spa. For some others, not so good. World cup happened. Spa was just amazing to watch in regards to the television coverage. I love that opening drone shot to set the tone and you see the people that have packed it in and their passion behind it. So I want to lead you into this, David. First, I want to thank our presenting sponsor, Chavez. Realty Development Apartments Business Affairs Real Estate Assessment. 6264-4915-4562-6449-1545. When things aren't going well, and you're a attorney, the first thing you do is you go to the rule book. F1 Sporting Rule B1.8.1 states the driver must drive the F1 car alone and unaided. Is an engine deciding itself how much power a car should have unaided? Very flummoxing thing with these cars and engines in F1 overall in 2026. Your insights, David, because you've been really honing in on this part of it. I've been celebrating the racing. Look forward to this discussion.
[11:06] David Gould: Well, they keep mentioning software glitches, which quite frankly is, is a trigger word for me because when I hear about software glitches with raching racing, I want to go out of my mind because nobody wants to hear about software in relation to racing and they say they have to do it alone. Well, you know, software to me is almost like having another person. It's almost like AI. There's a whole computer in there with you that's making decisions with you based on, you know, your commands, perhaps, but, you know, you're not alone. And that is perhaps what the problem is. You know, I don't know, I'm trying to think about how to, how to put this. But when they change technology and they went from, you know, V8s to V10s and everybody thinks that, well, that's a technological change. Well, technically they're right, but, but that's a mechanical change. That's not a computer driven change. That is something that can break, but it makes the car faster. And it seems to me much more dependable than these software glitches, quote, unquote. I don't want to, I don't want to hear about them. I would much rather see a different car with less of the electric, if any of it, and more horsepower. I would love to see them go back to the, the V10s and, and one of the reasons I like it and one of the things, reasons I think the fans would like it is because there's a visceral component to racing. There's the sound, there's the, there's the vibration. And, and when they go BY in those V10s, it's like nothing else.
[13:01] Chuck Hayes: Chuck Hayes with David Gould. Follow us at lvchecker Flag. At lvchecker Flag.
[13:06] David Gould: And as David says, follow us on X at lvcheckered Flag. And please give us a like and please retweet.
[13:15] Chuck Hayes: These are the words around the garage right now. It all centers on how the engine control units which you're speaking about are essentially studying how A driver has acted on one lap, then adjusting how the electrical energy is deployed for top speed in real time on the next, the teams can't simulate it and the engines are doing it by themselves. Why do I have this feeling that there's a voice in one of the ear pods of these drivers that sounds like Hal telling Max, this is all you're getting right now. This is all that's going to happen. It's not going to be anymore. Trust the process. It seems as if that there is this wild card that you can't catch, you can't see it. You don't know when it's going to happen. It's just going to happen. It's not a matter of when. It's just going to be a matter of how and when it happens. It doesn't happen in good places.
[14:20] David Gould: No.
[14:21] Chuck Hayes: When I watch George Russell get eaten up and I encourage anyone to go back to Apple tv, the live coverage, and then you can watch the recap. Just get to that part of where.
[14:33] David Gould: Lap one.
[14:34] Chuck Hayes: The lap one. And they have the view from the helicopter. And by the way, let me just throw out mad love for the helicopter pilots who fly F1 coverage for the races. We saw them in action in Vegas.
[14:47] David Gould: Yeah.
[14:47] Chuck Hayes: And that's some of the greatest flying I've seen since the Blue Angels blew over Pensacola. Right. These guys really know what they're doing, Guys or girls. I don't know who it is, but congrats to them. And to watch George Russell get Inhaled by Charles LeClaire and Lewis Hamilton with nowhere to go. And for me, he tried to race his way out of it, which is what you do on the first lap. Of course, he was nowhere near to actually having the capacity to do that. And he ended up crashing. And that's what happens when you're racing. If you can't keep up and you think you belong within a certain area and you try to get there, I think that's on you. Now. He could go back and go, hey, the car didn't work.
[15:32] David Gould: I right.
[15:32] Chuck Hayes: I didn't lose my skill to drive it.
[15:34] David Gould: And there should.
[15:35] Chuck Hayes: I've done that enough.
[15:35] David Gould: That's one thing they can say with. With no ambiguity is that the car failed. It wasn't George. It was not George. The car did not have the power when he. When he stepped on the gas or pressed the button for the. For the boost, it wasn't there. So, you know, I can't. I find no fault with him.
[15:59] Chuck Hayes: Well, he was in the track and then he wasn't. And Then Hamilton had to wonder where did he come from?
[16:05] David Gould: Right.
[16:05] Chuck Hayes: Because he wasn't there and you only see what you can see and you know that's just the front of the grid. We saw other wheels banging and things and we want to thank coach Harvey Hyde football promotions of Nevada for powering the fastest hour in radio. David, I just want to mention here in regards to the podium, Kimmy Charles, Max Verstappen, that's a beautiful looking podium. Then a Lewis Hamilton, Oscar Piastri, Isaac Hajar who is driving the heck out of that Red Bull. Oh yeah, Lando Norris who started because they had a power unit replacement for McLaren. He had a 10 second penalty based upon his qualifying 10 spots, came back and finished seventh. Gabriel Bortoletta was eighth, Arvid Lindblad ninth. Great run in the, in the racing bulls.
[16:54] David Gould: Yeah.
[16:55] Chuck Hayes: And then Franco Colapinto was 10th. From your standpoint, when you see Mercedes struggling where an Oscar Piastri is 18 seconds off of a, a Mercedes or you have Orlando Norris 24 seconds off of Mercedes. Yeah, very telling in regards to the technology that you're seeing and within what you're talking about are those people experience the same problems and they've been at the top of the heat.
[17:23] David Gould: Well, that's what I'm, I, I think the, the little secret is that they are experiencing this. I think that this is, is more ubiquitous than you. Then we're, we're, we're weakens with that. It's being told we're only hearing about anecdotal things with George or maybe one other driver complaining about power. But off the track you hear the majority of these drivers complaining that there's issues with power, especially in the Straits and especially at Belgium where they have the longest straight on the circuit. And the other thing is come to this conclusion too. That's the biggest, that's the longest racetrack on the circuit. So if there's a vsc, a virtual safety car, depending on where you are on the track, it could take you forever to get into the pits to take advantage of that virtual safety car to try and get some of these issues mitigated.
[18:21] Chuck Hayes: I'd love to know if the virtual safety car that's been put out some multiple times because of gravel issues. I don't remember that since we've been doing this right. Like they've been just covering it off. Like we got to get our safety team out there in the corner workers and get that gravel off the track. And I'm like really?
[18:40] David Gould: And you know what it's.
[18:41] Chuck Hayes: And it's supposed to. And it's also track limits is right where the gravel issue is.
[18:45] David Gould: Let's talk about high technology too. They got five guys with brooms. Okay. It's not like they got a, a special device to clear to clean the track and get it done real quick. They got five guys with brooms out there that are basically running to get it done and get off the track as fast as possible. It just, there's something. It's just the state of racing right now in F1 is not to my liking.
[19:10] Chuck Hayes: Something is just not right on every level that you see.
[19:14] David Gould: Yeah.
[19:15] Chuck Hayes: I personally anti quality the way it's done.
[19:19] David Gould: Right.
[19:19] Chuck Hayes: I think it's the most absurd thing I've ever seen in my life where you can be out there waiting to get a one lap in to kind of top yourself or sitting in it instead of just going out there. Hey, okay, we're. We've got 22 cars go out there, lay it all out there one at a time. You're not. And then you have this thing where a teammate may assist you because you're in a slipstream. How is that fair in the, in in regards to qualifying?
[19:47] David Gould: Well, why about. Why eliminate the bottom five? Maybe they could have another session that was much better and get into the top 10.
[19:55] Chuck Hayes: That's why I love the sprint races. And that way you, you have to qualify two times.
[20:01] David Gould: Right.
[20:01] Chuck Hayes: On the weekend.
[20:02] David Gould: Yeah.
[20:02] Chuck Hayes: And you see that. But again, I'm, I'm anti. I'm an old school NASCAR Fontana.
[20:09] David Gould: But this is.
[20:09] Chuck Hayes: Watch one lap at a time. You, you, you get picked out of the hat. You know, if you were the slowest car the week before in Darlington and you make it to Fontana, well, you go out first and you go out there and you put your lap time down. And that's why they used to love happy hour because that's when everything worked right and that's when the tires were the right temp.
[20:32] David Gould: Yep.
[20:32] Chuck Hayes: The track was the right temp. And you saw some amazing driving. This is amazing driving. Why they can't do that, I have no idea.
[20:41] David Gould: I don't know. But there's nothing better than seeing somebody who has not done well to come out and, and, and redeem themselves and redeem themselves. And they are not allowing that to happen.
[20:54] Chuck Hayes: Chuck Hayes with David Gould. Follow us at lvchecker Flag. At lvchecker Flag. As David says, give us a like. We want to be secure in our identity here. So that's. If you give us a like will make us feel good and Come back after you. Box, box, box. You're going to talk about the other insights that come out of that weekend in spa because I know how important it is to you because, David, you're a guy. For example, we used to work off of a paper that maybe had a few laps on it. Now you come back with these beautiful laminates and that shows me your attention.
[21:29] David Gould: Well, I want to say one other thing. I want to get to a point where we're really discussing the competitive nature of racing and how great the races are and not software glitches. That's all I need to say.
[21:41] Chuck Hayes: Chuck Hayes with David Gold. We thank you for joining us. We're going to box for four fresh Pirellis. Thank you. They put some great rubber on the road. We come back, we'll talk more. Formula One. Welcome back. Segment three, Checkered Flag report. This is Chuck Hayes with David Gould and we're so excited. Why? Because round 11 in Hungary is coming up this weekend and that's 70 laps, 2.722 miles, 190 miles, 190.531 miles at the Hungor ring. And they've been running it since 1986. This is the 40th anniversary, so I'm sure the T shirt concession will be really good. Nelson P. And Williams Honda was the winner back in 86. And David, as we walk into this, guess who has his home, his own hungry trophy room.
[22:28] David Gould: It's got to be Lewis, no doubt. Yep. Eight.
[22:33] Chuck Hayes: He's got eight of them, sir. Lewis. 2020-2019-2018-2016, 2013-2012-2009-2007.
[22:45] David Gould: Wow.
[22:46] Chuck Hayes: And that's 19 years ago when he got his first one.
[22:49] David Gould: So, and this, and this gets to our point entirely. How would you like to see him not being able to do well because of some sort of computer issue or some sort of of, you know, lag with the battery? That's ridiculous.
[23:05] Chuck Hayes: And as we say that, we want to thank our presenting sponsor, Chavez. Realty Development Apartments Business affairs, real estate assessment. 626-449-1545. That's 626-449-1545. And so David, who's number two, always trying harder. That's Max Verstappen. He only has two rings from the ring at Hunger Ring. Two rings, two really podium wins. 2023, 2022. All right, so you know, real quick, go for it.
[23:33] David Gould: Tell me. I did. And this is a little bit, kind of going back a little bit. But do you realize that I don't think Mercedes1 has won at Belgium since the 50s, I think it's been that long for Mercedes having, having a trophy, a winning trophy at Belgium and Kimmy
[23:54] Chuck Hayes: Antonelli was the guy.
[23:55] David Gould: I think I'm, I think I'm right about that.
[23:57] Chuck Hayes: That's an amazing thing.
[23:58] David Gould: All right, sorry.
[23:59] Chuck Hayes: No, no, you're right, you're right on it because again every time we talk about this where you have Lewis with that much experience going in and you know, currently in regards to constructors It's Mercedes with 358, Ferrari with 285. And then when a standing standpoint you have Kimmy with 204, Lewis at 159, Georgia 154, Charles at 126, Lando 103, Oscar Piastri 92, Max Verstappen seventh with 91, and then Isaac Hadjar, his teammate, eighth at 60. From your standpoint, David, Lewis Hamilton is on the rise. I don't think I've ever seen him be more relaxed. They showed him skateboarding on the spa pit lane, like very relaxed. And you know, in this zone here has he maybe come to peace in regards to how these Ferraris are running and that he feels that he is where he's going to be. Maybe he's going to win, maybe he's not. I'm wondering if it's like Alonzo and Valtteri Bottas where they're just going out there and going, okay, this is a shakedown cruise. Every time we go out it's going to be an issue, but we're just going to be competitive about it, we're going to keep our head down like Sergio Perez and Bottas and Alonzo, I have no idea about Stroll, he's younger, he's got to be more frustrated. I mean they had a gearbox issue where they retired that Aston Martin. Yeah, but from your mindset David, where you're used to having and competing for excellence like Max and you're sitting there when you wake up in the morning and you're looking and you only have 91 points and a 19 year old kid from Italy has 204.
[25:53] David Gould: Yeah, it's, it's got to be, it's got to, you know, and you keep going, okay, is the guy a phenom? Is the guy just lucky? Well, I don't think he's just lucky, I think the guy is a phenom. He is. And there's, there's such a opposing, an opposite character that gets out of that car because you expect a season tough James Hunt type of guy getting out of that car. And what you got is. He's like a little kid. He's great. I mean, I love him, don't get me wrong. But it's so. It's such a. It's such a funny thing and such a strange paradox.
[26:32] Chuck Hayes: I'd love to see the number because it didn't come out until late in the race. Only 44 laps in Spa. When I heard Mercedes tell him, kimmy, just be aware. Track limits. You've had two warnings today and.
[26:50] David Gould: Right.
[26:51] Chuck Hayes: Number of warnings over the course of the year.
[26:54] David Gould: Right.
[26:55] Chuck Hayes: A lot of he's accumulated.
[26:57] David Gould: Yeah.
[26:58] Chuck Hayes: Talks about him as a charger, though. That's right. That's kind of out of perspective from what you would normally. Who was so clean, like Max Verstappen, I don't think. I don't know this for sure, but track limits was not part of his racing style because he was so clinical. He was so iceman in regards to his flying.
[27:20] David Gould: Right.
[27:20] Chuck Hayes: If it was to draw an analysis to the Blue Angels or the Thunderbirds, Kimmy would not be the guy that you want in the middle leading your group. You want him way on the outside. So if he made a mistake or tipped his wing. Yeah, a little bit, which you might expect. That's what we're seeing from him. He's on the top of the podium.
[27:39] David Gould: But that's racing, though. You're. You're always on the edge. And Mario Andretti would say it.
[27:46] Chuck Hayes: That's the quote I was just going to use, David. You know, if you're not on the edge, you're not going fast.
[27:50] David Gould: You're not going fast enough. And Kimmy's a guy, he's a hard charger, and he's constantly, you know, and it's, it's. It's the way you want to see racing, frankly. You. You want to see a guy who is really pushing that car to the very limit, that if he pushes it any further, not that he's going to crash and die, but there's going to be an incident where there's going to be a snapback, where there's going to be an oversteer or an understeer. He's constantly doing that. He did violate twice, and he got a little whisper in his ear from the engineer and said, watch it, Kimmy. You've got, you know, you're over the limits twice, and you get four. I think you get four before you're penalized.
[28:34] Chuck Hayes: Now, David, when you're a hard charger like that and you're push, push, push
[28:37] David Gould: all the time, right.
[28:39] Chuck Hayes: Is that just when you're on the track, when you come back and let's just say you're in a restaurant and the Service and you're 19 years old and the service isn't up to the level of what you're expecting in regards to how it's done. Do you, do you push back?
[28:53] David Gould: But that's.
[28:54] Chuck Hayes: You just. Are you completely a different person when you take the helmet off?
[28:57] David Gould: But he seems like a completely different person. I mean, see, that's the, that's the, that's the strange thing is that you expect a guy like a James Hunt who, I mean, you never know what mood this guy's going to be with or what, frankly, what woman he's going to be waking up with. He's. He was.
[29:14] Chuck Hayes: That was him. He was a player well documented.
[29:17] David Gould: I know.
[29:17] Chuck Hayes: When do we see the name Kimmy Antonellian player, Right. Versus where we're seeing him when he hoists. And right now it looks as if at the end of the year he's going to be hoisting the world championship.
[29:29] David Gould: Please, please keep those Kardashians away from him.
[29:33] Chuck Hayes: That's a whole nother show, a whole nother podcast. Chuck Hayes with David Gould. Follow us at lvchecker Flag. Follow us at lvchecker Flag. As David says, please give us a like and retweet, just as the Kardashians request. We're going to be out there saying that's going to be the way of the world. But from that standpoint, what we're looking at it, you've got the best of the best and it doesn't sound like a complaint. It's an analysis. Going now into round 11 in Hungary, where the cards are basically on the table. When we're this far, will we have a big shakeup during the off season? When I say off season, when we have this little summer break, this European break, after we come back from this, your insights in regards to the shakeup. How long can Perez and Botas keep doing this at Cadillac? How long can. What's going on in regards to the evolution of these guys careers? Okon at Haas and. And Albon at Williams. And then the wild card, Carlos Science has got to be we. We spent a lot of time in the top with the Mercedes, the Ferrari McLaren and the red Bull. Right below the cut is Alpena 61, racing bulls at 61. Then it drops to this group. Seven is Haas with 21, right? Eight, Williams with 11. 11 points.
[31:07] David Gould: Yep.
[31:07] Chuck Hayes: Audi with 10, Aston Martin with one, thanks to Fernando's third place finish in Monaco and then Caddy 0.0. No matter what they've done with delivery, whatever the colors are, whatever the merch is, they're just trying to get through the season and not get skunked. But tell me about the bottom part of this.
[31:26] David Gould: Well, I, I think, I think first of all, I think alonzo got into 10th place, not third place.
[31:32] Chuck Hayes: No. And I mean on the podium. Excuse me. Correction. One point. You're.
[31:35] David Gould: Yeah, he got one point because he got. Someone got knocked out is a huge victory. No, no, because I. I'm sitting here fumbling on my phone to make sure I'm right about the Belgian.
[31:43] Chuck Hayes: That was me projecting. Right, Alonzo.
[31:47] David Gould: Right. Well, and that's part of my argument is that you're seeing the same group at the bottom. The same for like, why can't. Why can't Austin Martin. Why can't they get out of the garage? I mean, why. Why is. Why is Fernando Alonso thinking about. Thinking about soccer? Come on.
[32:06] Chuck Hayes: Well, let me ask you, is this a deflection? When the Honda maker, Honda engine maker, Shintora Arahara, says we're going to bring chassis upgrade and working closely with them to support the PU integration aspects. Isn't that what you do every week? Why do we all sudden now say we're coming with these upgrades? What is this about in regards to? When you hear this from manufacturers when you know you only have one point, what is it going to matter? How are we going to evaluate this?
[32:38] David Gould: And even equally as important is what's going to cause change? Right now the races are selling out. There's money rolling in by the, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars. So, you know, I don't think F1 or. Or any of these guys is gonna. Gonna, you know, worry about that. They're getting the ratings, but I wonder whether. Are the drivers going to get together and rebel. Are they going to. Are the teams going to get together and rebel and just start pushing back on this thing?
[33:12] Chuck Hayes: I want to just make sure that you glean this out there. Fernando Alonso, great driver, the oldest driver in the field. His Aston Martin was two laps down at Spa. That is over eight miles, right? Eight miles. Think about that.
[33:30] David Gould: That's. Remember I talked about that in the last show? I said when you're a lap down on other tracks, but this track, you're two laps down, it's like you're not even in the race.
[33:39] Chuck Hayes: Chuck Hayes with David Gould. We're gonna box, box, box. Think about that. Welcome back. Segment four, final one Checkered flag report. Chuck Hayes with David Gould. Great to be with you. Talk in Formula one. We want to thank our presenting sponsor, Chavez. Realty Development, Apartments, business affairs, real estate assessment. That's 6264-4915-4562-6449-1545. And coach Harvey Hyde powering the fastest hour and radio football promotion of Nevada. We thank them for your. For our support and David, as we come into this this weekend in Budapest, and then we have round 14, Zandvoort in the Netherlands, August 23rd. So basically, we almost have a full month off.
[34:25] David Gould: Right.
[34:25] Chuck Hayes: And man, when you're at the bottom of the grid, that is a long, long time to tread water. Everyone's got to go out there and reboot, but you got to find some answers because, again, the meter's running. Yeah, there's no such thing as, like, well, you know, that's the way it's going. It's racing. We're at that point where, you know, ultimately we try to get to Abu Dhabi on December 6th, but of course, before that, round 22, Las Vegas, November 19th to 21st, which we love going to, we love talking about. So if you're a principal, David, and you say, okay, let's get through Hungary, what are we looking at as we come for this break? Is it just going to be more and more of an analysis of how poorly the car works?
[35:14] David Gould: Well, I don't see any. Unless F1 changes their regulations, I don't see a lot of radical changes going on to the car. Maybe a little tweaking, depending on what the garage thinks their car needs. I can assure you there's going to be a lot of discussion with Russell because he was on a roll, he was looking good. He was, I think, arguably the favorite going into Belgium, and look what happened. I mean, that's just ridiculous. That's not the way to go out. I mean, if you're going to go out, you go out because maybe you were too aggressive or there were some other. The accident on the. Something else outside your car caused you to wreck or dnf. But I don't. I don't see a lot of changes. And as long, like I said, as long as that money is rolling in, I do not see F1 touching much.
[36:11] Chuck Hayes: Chuck Hayes with David Gould. Follow us at lvchucker Flag. Okay, after Zanvoort on August 23, we then go to Monza in Italy. And I know how much you love that track. September 4th to 6. And then we come right back at it. Round 16 Madrid, that's in Spain. September 11th to 13th. Then we have two weeks. We have Baku, round 17 with that great road course and then a little bit of a break. We go to Singapore October 9th to 11th, then back to Austin. October 23rd to 25, Circuit of the Americas in Austin, Texas. Then down to Mexico City November 1st. And Sergio Perez's return in that Cadillac is going to be spectacular. And then Brazil, November 6th to 8th, Sao Paulo, and then back to Vegas.
[37:05] David Gould: Okay, you know, real quick, I'm gonna. No, no, no. I, I just, just one comment. I will be watching that Monza race in imax and I encourage others to do that out there. It's a fantastic experience. Very immersive.
[37:20] Chuck Hayes: Now the question is, will you stay up to go watch it or will you get up early to watch it? I always like to find that blend of maybe concluding the night or beginning the day. What would be your choice on that?
[37:33] David Gould: Well, I think that depends on how the night goes. But more than likely I'll be getting up early.
[37:39] Chuck Hayes: Chuck Hayes with David Gould. And it's all part of the decision making process.
[37:42] David Gould: Right? Right.
[37:43] Chuck Hayes: If you got to be somewhere, if you got to qualify, you can't make the race unless you qualify. Right. That's number one. Always have that in mind. So as we look at it and we talk about it, it's always part of this. So. All right, if we were to put this in your mindset as we look down the road, I want to have you not today. Right. But in the future races. We already know the MVP of the half season.
[38:08] David Gould: Right.
[38:09] Chuck Hayes: Is Kimmy Antonella.
[38:10] David Gould: Of course.
[38:10] Chuck Hayes: And then we have the biggest surprise. And then we have the most disappointing. And I'm not saying it can't be the same because right now, in my mind, the biggest surprise is that Max Verstappen is seventh. And the biggest disappointment is that Max Verstappen is seventh. So these are kind of some of the fun things we'll work out during this break. But we got to get to Hungary and do this.
[38:33] David Gould: Yeah.
[38:33] Chuck Hayes: Tell me what you, what you see in Hungary.
[38:36] David Gould: Well, I don't know. I think Hungary is going to be more of the same. I wouldn't be surprised if we're gonna. Because there's no radical changes going on. There may be a lot of arguing and a lot of discussions, but I don't see radical changes in the car. So I, I do see the same guys at the top. Max Hamilton, LeClaire, Kimmy, hopefully George. And something just dawned on me. It's going to be very interesting when. When Kimmy brings one of those track girls home and some. Some six foot, very curvaceous track girl to meet his mother
[39:14] Chuck Hayes: during the break. Is that kind of a break? A Monaco break? Well, I mean, is he on the short list for an invitation?
[39:21] David Gould: No, no.
[39:21] Chuck Hayes: Can he go anywhere he wants?
[39:23] David Gould: No, no. They play video games together, that's all.
[39:25] Chuck Hayes: Okay, I got it. I got it. Check case with David Gould. We want to thank lv. Checkered flag. That's us. Follow us, Dave. We're counted down. Four fresh Pirellis. We took the victory flag. We look forward to next week. Reporting on Hungary, Chuck Hayes with David Gold.