Build Your SaaS – bootstrap in 2020

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How to communicate (and make decisions) with your co-founder.

Show Notes

What’s been happening?

  • Is the Macbook Pro 2013 the best computer ever made?
    • Jon's review of the new Macbook Pro: the screen, the keyboard, the thinness are great. He doesn't like the touchbar, and it crashed a lot initially.
  • Thanks to Bill for the Spotify introduction!
  • We tried out Amazon Transcribe and it was hilarious

Main topic: Partner communication, making decisions

We got a question on Twitter from Dennis Martinez:

“How often do you both keep in touch with each other talking about the product in an average day/week? How important is daily communication?”

Jon and Justin have different decision making styles:
  • Justin is "quick start." He likes to make decisions quickly, and have a fast momentum.
  • Jon is more thoughtful and detail-oriented.

Having this balance is important!

How we communicate:

  • Daily communication: Slack
  • Weekly call: Skype
  • How we make decisions: consensus.


  • This is the benefit of doing a small project before you launch something bigger.
    • Example: where are we going for lunch? (XOXO), what source control are we going to use? (small project we did before Transistor)
  • Partner with someone who is trustworthy, autonomous.
  • Make sure there's enough overlap in your timezone.
  • Ensure your co-founder has enough time to dedicate to the project.

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What is Build Your SaaS – bootstrap in 2020?

Can you bootstrap a profitable startup in 2020? Thousands of entrepreneurs, developers, designers, and product people have tried to launch their own web apps. But with so many venture-backed startups now, is it still possible? Follow Jon and Justin as they build their podcasting SaaS,