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Record Live is a conversation about life, spirituality and following Jesus in the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
Six tips for sharing your testimony
[00:00:00] Hi there everyone. I'm Jared. And I'm Sunita. We are your hosts of Record Live, a podcast where we talk about church faith and living well. We believe as followers of Jesus faith is more than just a set of beliefs. It's a way of life, something we'd put into practice. Let's go live.
Zanita Fletcher: Hello everyone. Welcome back to another week of record live. I keep going to say. Happy New Year as if the year has just begun, but it is well into the year. We have four months in now, so, , I don't know what's going on in my brain. But Jared, our last conversational record live, we spilled some news, pretty big news, but people might have picked up from that recording that we actually recorded that episode in December.
And you're still here. So do you wanna just fill us in? [00:01:00] What's going on? What are the plans with you moving away from a new role? , Where are things at? How are you feeling?
Jarrod Stackelroth: How I'm feeling? That's a good question. It's been, , a bit delayed, a bit different to our plans, but we are happy. We are, , doing our best to figure things out.
, Basically our visas have come through so we are now able to travel, but we just have a few more things to tie up here, before we go. So maybe a month, maybe two months. , And then things will, will change properly. But yeah, we've just been working through. All the different logistical things that we have to get done.
, But in the meantime it's business as usual for me at least, , in my role. Just, , working hard and trying to get things keep ticking along. , And yeah, , we. Have had that , good news that Visa has been approved and sorted out. , So that's exciting.
That hadn't happened yet, , when we spoke and had that conversation. But, , we are close, we're closer now than we were then. So step by step, day [00:02:00] by day, that's the mantra at the moment in my household. Just take each challenge as it comes.
Zanita Fletcher: Awesome. Now that means that we will have you here on record live for another few weeks.
We've got some cool things planned, some cool guests coming on the next few weeks. but then after that what we are planning on doing is releasing, the Living Covenant series, which you've obviously released this. Dashing book.
Jarrod Stackelroth: it's a good looking book, isn't it?
Zanita Fletcher: It's, I think it's great. Awesome illustrations in there.
and the book is out, but alongside the book, we have kind of like a podcast series going with that. So that's gonna be coming out after, we wrap, wrap up record live, at least for this season. and that'll be uploaded on this same page, the videos, and then it'll have a separate podcast channel.
So stay tuned for that. But today we have a topic for record live that you and I. I'm very passionate about. and that is sharing your testimony. Now before we get into kind of like, we've got some tips that we're gonna share with you guys today. But before we get into those, I thought we would start by actually talking about maybe why this is so, such a passion for both [00:03:00] of us.
So, do you wanna start? Why is sharing your testimony such an important thing to you? What is it about personal stories that you really love?
Jarrod Stackelroth: Yeah, thanks, Anita. If you've watched or, or listened to this show, For a while you were, you would've probably picked up that this is a passion of both Anita and myself.
Testimonies are super key and super crucial, at least in the way I see, how we can pass on our faith, how we can share our faith. because the stories of what God is doing in people's lives is really where the rubber hits the road. Like theology, the theoretical stuff that's really important gives us a really good foundation, but.
To actually see that demonstrated in the material world, in the real world. How is God working among us? How is he using us? How is he using others? that's super important. I think. for me, my career, my journey has just been. Picking up evidence for the fact that stories are important 'cause it's something I've known, I guess inherently from childhood.
I used to love reading stories. the missionary stories have shaped my faith. You [00:04:00] know, hearing stories from my mom and her upbringing in Fiji as a missionary kid really shapes me, and wanting to serve God in some way in my life. So. There's little things like that, and then my wife and I, when we came to Sydney, we went to a church that was really big on testimonies, and it really got us discipled and engaged and evolved because we were like, wow, these people's lives look a bit like ours, but they've changed so much because of what God has done for them.
So it really. We caught fire anew, I suppose, and some you may have heard bits and pieces of some of those stories, before, so I won't rehash them now in the intro, but just that sort of set me on this journey to be like, Hey, stories are really important. a fact that I love to pull out is that stories are 22 times more memorable than facts.
And I know that's a fact that I've just pulled out, but it just shows that stories remember, are so much, stories are so much more powerful and, and more impactful than just the stats, you know? and so that's why. I think stories are super important, but you love stories too. [00:05:00] Zita, what is it about stories?
How did stories become important in your life?
Zanita Fletcher: Oh, I think stories probably initially became important for my life because I found other people's stories really inspiring. and so I feel like other people's stories made me wanna live a better life and, you know. Do more exciting things or love people better or, um, I feel like that's where it really hit home for me first, but I feel like I, One of my kind of like pet peeves I suppose, is this idea that we have to like live and learn or learn from our mistakes. Because I think stories can be a really good guide for us where we can like hear other people's stories and make better decisions in our lives and not have to go down some of those paths that I think maybe we would have if we didn't get the wisdom from other people's stories and their journeys and their steps.
so I think there's a bunch of reasons. I think I think they connect us. I think they're healing for us and for others. I think. They inspire us, they encourage us. they're just a few reasons, but I think there's a million. Um,
Jarrod Stackelroth: but that's [00:06:00] super interesting, that point you made about the stories. Actually being able to teach us is collective wisdom, sort of rather than going through the mistakes ourselves.
'cause I think it's often an excuse for bad behavior. Like, oh, I've gotta learn the hard way. You know, I've gotta just do it. But to say that, no, actually we can be mentored by these stories, we can be guided by these stories so we don't have to make our own mistakes. I just wanted to highlight what you said there.
'cause Yeah. That really impacted me in a, in a new. Sort of way. Not that I haven't thought about that before, but it is just like another facet or another way of saying it that stood out to me.
Zanita Fletcher: I think that's why, and not to plug the book again, but I think that's why this book is awesome because we are looking at like the lives of people in the old women and a lot of them are.
Pretty poor models of who we should be like, and, and so it's like constantly examples of like, what not to do. Um,
Jarrod Stackelroth: yeah.
Zanita Fletcher: But anyway, with that said, I think let's go into our, our first, [00:07:00] first tip. Do you wanna take it away?
Jarrod Stackelroth: Our first tip for telling you good testimony. Is be specific. What do I mean by that? A lot of times you hear people say, I was far from the Lord. Then I fell into drinking and partying, and then God saved me and I've never looked back. Not a very powerful testimony because it's filled with jargon. It's filled with Christian shortcut words like, what's wrong with drinking?
I need to drink my water every day, you know? going out, why shouldn't I leave the house? What we mean by going out is clubbing, you know, partying or, you know, and so if we're not specific, we can really wallpaper over the work that God has done in our lives when we're giving a testimony. I think it's important to give the details, not the gory details, not too inappropriately, but for example.
Is it more impactful to say, I used to drink too much, or is it more impactful to say the drinking was such a [00:08:00] problem because it meant I couldn't put food on the table for my kids?
Zanita Fletcher: Hmm.
Jarrod Stackelroth: The drinking was a problem because I beat my wife. You know, some of these things are more specific and it gives us, it gives us more satisfaction as the listener or the reader of the testimony to see where the, corner is turned.
What is it that God practically did in that testimony, in that story to make that work? If you're not specific in the details, you can really miss that. And so we pat ourselves on the back and we say, and I get why we do it. We're trying to, um. Be appropriate to maybe audience ages and different maturity levels.
We're not trying to glorify the, the bad stuff necessarily. We're covering some of the, mistakes that we've made. Sometimes we can't be too specific if we've hurt someone or done something, you know, terrible. it's not appropriate to share. Mm. But if we don't include in our testimonies the how it made us feel, the why it was bad, we just assume more everyone knows it's bad.
Particularly in the Adventist Church, we have this [00:09:00] shorthand. You know, I used to go out. Well, people outside who are hearing your testimony for the first time, they may also be engaged in that behavior. It's not gonna impact them. They're gonna be like, oh, you sound judgemental. You sound this, you sound that.
If it's not specific to why it's an impactful thing, why it was so helpful that God, did that. We also get a lot of testimonies come in from. Sort of the islands, Zita and the shorthand there is often, I learned the truth. Now, what they mean by that is they learned the Sabbath or they heard a different form of Christianity.
Maybe they went deeper in their walk with God, but I would much rather hear how God worked in their life to change their circumstances, change their family, help them. the truth is super important and it may change your life to understand the truth at, at at some point. but just to say, I was this brand of Christian and I switched to this brand of Christian.
It's sort of not as important or powerful as it could be if you don't go into the specifics. It's sort of a very shorthand, lazy way of [00:10:00] giving a testimony. So point number one for me is get specific and talk a little bit about some of those things. 'cause they'll really help someone to relate, they give people lots of hooks to relate to your testimony.
Zanita Fletcher: Hmm. That's great. I think that's good. It also, probably assumes that, you know what? The audience, or from every background of diversity understands your experience and can like, read between the lines, but, someone might be on a completely different wavelength and think something completely different from your statement.
yeah, I really like that. My
Jarrod Stackelroth: first, tell me about yourself. Give us your first point, Zita. We love to
Zanita Fletcher: hear my first, my first point is actually a little bit of a disclaimer, and I guess I'm saying this because you and I, Jared are writers. We both work for a magazine. And so when we think of testimonies, we typically think of like written testimonies, you know, in a little 60 page, color magazine or whatever.
Or maybe we think of like a book or books we've read or something like that. but there's a lot of people who. Not writers find it really difficult, but that doesn't mean that they can't share their story. And I think the second thing people probably think of is they [00:11:00] probably think of getting up the front at church, getting on stage at big camp.
I know that's happening right now. You'll probably hear lots of testimonies. or you know, doing it on a stage which can also be quite daunting. And so I think when we talk about sharing your testimony, it's really important to kind of like. Simplify it or bring it to your everyday life and think about like the form in which you are gonna be able to actually share your story.
I think today, for a lot of people, that's social media. Like we see people in captions of photos, like sharing things about their story, about their lives, and that can be really powerful. Like that's where everyone is these days. I think, you know, people sometimes do that on reels or have a YouTube channel.
but I think even just in our day-to-day conversation like we have Constantly got opportunities to share parts of our stories. Maybe not our whole life story from A to Z, but like, how God has worked in our lives in certain areas where we've seen him bless us or guide us or direct us. what like kind of miracles we've seen in our life.
And I think those testimonies are probably what's maybe impacted me the most is [00:12:00] when it's just been like a conversational thing. and I think that's something that we can all do. Maybe that still requires us like. To think about things before we share. Maybe not. Maybe you can just do it on the fly.
But I think, I like this quote. I don't know who said it, but it's basically just openness, elicits openness. And so by you sharing your story, that might be helpful for you, but that might also help the other person to feel safe to share parts of their life that, that they're struggle to. So I think that would be my first, is just find the medium or the method that works for you and practice it regularly.
Jarrod Stackelroth: And just on that note of practicing it regularly, before I share my next, my next tip, I think one thing I say to people is be ready or have an updated story. Like, know what your testimonies are so that when the Holy Spirit does open those avenues, you're ready to. Tell your story. because again, you're right.
If we focus on, oh, I have to write it, or I have to get on stage and deliver it, we may not share it with anyone ever, but if we're like thinking in our morning devotional time, like, what can I share with someone today? What is God doing in my life? And [00:13:00] then we meet a cab driver or a, a school friend or a, a colleague and, and they're sharing something with us and we're like, Hey, I've got.
An experience that speaks into that. I'm ready. So it's sharing your story your way, I think is how you sort of framed it. Like you can use social media, you can use, , your own personal relationships with people. You can use the stage or , , uh, the magazine article. Of course , we wanna see those, those things happen, but.
There's different ways to do that, but it's also like being ready to do that when the opportunity presents itself. Because you know your story, you have an updated story that's not from 25 years ago I was baptized and I've been perfect ever since. It's more like recent, like things that God is doing in your life.
It's powerful to recognize those. , Just to go a bit deeper for my second point, I'd like to say, . It's good to know your audience, and so what I mean by that is you would give your testimony differently if you were in front of a church. [00:14:00] And you had a certain time that you were given and it was people you knew you might give it differently to.
If you're giving your napkin testimony. I think we've talked on this program before about, you know, your, your elevator pitch version of a testimony. you might give the story differently. You might use ways to frame it to relate differently. If someone's shared a story with you and you are sharing a story, part of your story.
You would cut it down to the part that relates and knowing their life experience will help you to do that. So there's a thing we talk about in writing and and stuff all the time. It's know your audience and I think. It is important with testimonies to know your audience. So if you were giving it to a church, you, you need to give it in a certain way.
But again, don't fall into the trap of sharing with, Christian jargon kind of thing because everyone in the church may know your, what you're talking about, but there might be visitors there that day. And so you have to always assume that there's a certain level of. This could be heard by someone I don't expect or I don't anticipate, but as much as [00:15:00] possible, I should craft this story to the listener's ear so that it will really help them pick it up.
You know, it'll help them get something the most they can out of it. And so I think that's really important whenever you're setting out to think, how do I tell my story? How can I share this in a powerful or impactful way? You have to think what. Does my audience know? What do they not know and how can I tell this story in a way that will help them to know more, to know it better?
Mm-hmm. So I think that's a really important point, yeah. To, to remember a very practical point to remember.
Zanita Fletcher: Hmm. Yeah. That's awesome. my next tip, I think this would bring us to tip four. Yes. Um, is to tell your story with integrity. Okay. and what I mean by that is to consider the people who are in your stories.
Because the reality is that most of us, if we've been through hurts or difficulties, It's pretty likely that that involves other people. It's very, very rare that our struggles in life happen in isolation. and so I would ask myself a few questions when [00:16:00] I'm like, whatever, writing my story, telling my story about to share my story.
and the first would be, am I honoring people in the way that I'm telling this? Like, obviously there's gonna be people who wrong us and who hurt us, but I think some people take that as an opportunity to kind of like put themselves. On a pedestal to make themselves like kind of look, better. And, and I think I would also ask like, have, have I forgiven this person?
Because if I haven't, then I'm probably gonna be coming at it from a different angle. Um mm-hmm. And so I think that's an important step. I think the third thing to, to think about would be. Am I sharing what's not mine to share? Like if this person was in the room or if this person was reading this, how would I feel about that?
Would that make me, would that make me nervous? Would I maybe say something differently? Would I take that back? and so I think just thinking about how you are framing story and how you are telling the story, if people have wronged you, it's probably. Probably not the best thing to name those people and shame them publicly.
and so, you know, you might leave a name out, but you might make it very obvious to people who that [00:17:00] person is. and so yeah, I would just, I would just be mindful of that. Like tell your story with integrity, like, don't come out of this, with kind like a bad mark on your, on your name. I think that's important.
Jarrod Stackelroth: Yeah, for sure. Because, you know. Also, we as humans interpret things through a certain lens that is ours through our life experience. And we are the center of our own universe. You know, many times we just default into that position. And so like, they might have a different interpretation of events.
Zanita Fletcher: Mm.
Jarrod Stackelroth: Or you know, if it's our parents or our family members or something, they might have been doing the best they could with the knowledge that they had.
And so to, I think to your point, if we. Shame someone or out someone in our testimony and, and it hurts them. it may further alienate them from God as well. That's very key. Like we don't want our stories to push people away from God. We want to draw them closer to God. Hmm. in a way that kind of leads into my next point, which is make sure your testimony rif God.
[00:18:00] I have heard a number of testimonies where it's like, uh, when is the God part gonna come in? What did God do in this? Right? People get up and they're like, oh, when I was young I used to do this, and I used to do that, and, and sometimes they can glorify. The gory parts and the bad parts. The gangster, you know, from rags to riches, from gangster to glory, you know, and they, and they really lean into some of the, the worst parts of their story.
Then they say, you know, and God saved me and I've been, I've been on the right path ever since. And that's the last part of their story and the smallest part of their story and the least impactful part of their story. 'cause they've sort of glossed over it. And so you might be moved by the terrible things that happened to them.
You might be like, but the main point of your testimony is to bring glory to God. Part of that is to be humble. You need to have humility when you are leading into your story, like recognizing that you're not perfect, that God's the one that's gotten you through, and then make [00:19:00] him the main character of your testimony.
So give all glory to God because it helps you avoid that trap of sort of your own self being put to upfront. That's not the point of our stories. We don't want to do that with our stories. You know, we share our stories. We are specific, as I said, we know our audience, et cetera, but we have to be pointing to God.
Otherwise, it's not a testimony, you know, it's a memoir. Yeah, it's a self glorifying sort of, , story. Hmm. That's, I don't think that's what we want as Christians. You know, when we share our testimony, if we want our testimony to impact other people, to inspire them to change, we have to share how.
God has worked in our lives and I think that's also freeing and helpful for us, Sanita and that's because we don't have to have all the answers and we don't have to be at the end of our testimony to share our testimony.
Zanita Fletcher: Hmm.
Jarrod Stackelroth: I think actually sharing with humility, like, I'm humble. I'm in the middle of this battle.
I can't see [00:20:00] the light, but this is what God is doing for me. At the darkness of the pit, at the bottom of the pit, this is where I'm at. that can also have a powerful impact because others are not like this guy was saved. He's giving glory to God, but he's got it all together. He's so far from where I am right now that I can't reach that level.
if we point to God and give him glory, and we're humble in ourselves and, and we let, let the story do the work, we give people encouragement. But if we. Are not humble with it. And we are like, I've got it all together now. , I'm at the end. It's all sorted. For those that are in the middle of it, they can really struggle with that.
Hmm. It will turn them off again. The listeners will be turned off of God because they're like, God wouldn't do that for someone like me. And so there is power in telling your story midway, , and giving that glory to God. Like, Hey, I glorify God, even though. I don't have all the answers, even though I'm still at the bottom of the pit.
Even though, because [00:21:00] that, yeah, that reframes your whole story. It's not about you. It's not about you, it's about God. It's about God. And so, yeah, I think that maybe it should have been my first point. Make it all about God. , But that's really crucial to give all that glory to God.
Zanita Fletcher: Hmm. Yeah.
I think I just wanna add on that, . , The point that you don't have to have a completed and incredible, amazing story to be able to tell your story. I know, , when I've struggled in the past, I found it really encouraging to hear from people who, , I don't know so and so whatever happened, but it didn't go their way or they didn't come to a resolution because that was the space that I was in.
And so I was more so wondering like. Okay, well how have you held onto your faith in this period , and hearing those kind of testimonies and, of how they had kind of like persisted in the faith. So, that can be really encouraging. I think it can actually be discouraging for people if they're only hearing the completed, wrapped up shiny story.
So,
Jarrod Stackelroth: yeah, a hundred percent. Thanks.
Zanita Fletcher: Courage,
Jarrod Stackelroth: [00:22:00] it, it does take courage, but I think it's crucial because yeah, we don't want to. Discourage people.
Zanita Fletcher: Mm.
Jarrod Stackelroth: It's really key. It's really important not to, not to add to their burdens already. And like reality is there's a number of areas in my life, any given day that I'm struggling, as I said at the start of the program, like, it's like how much do I share?
It's really draining to be in this limbo situation, you know, each day to to figure out like, I wanna be ahead. My mind is thinking of the next challenge, but I'm also stuck here like doing, , each and every day brings its challenges to all of us. And if we're not, . Honest and open about those challenges every, all of us feel like.
I'm the only one going through that. Everyone else has got it all together, , and I'm the only one struggling. , And that's not how the world works. So we've gotta, we've gotta pull, pull off those masks and unmask that, that truth.
Zanita Fletcher: Yeah. I wanna rewind to what you said. You said make sure that, your story is a testimony and not a memoir.
And [00:23:00] I think, , like on that note, sometimes when we hear these testimonies, kinda like the testimonies you are sharing, where, you know, they were the. The drug dealer, the prison bloke, whatever. , I think you we're all very prone to kind of like comparing our stories to the crazy stories, to the wild stories.
, And I think it's really important to get out of that comparison trap when you're thinking about your story because you and I are constantly hearing, I'm sure other people have heard it as well, or maybe think it like, my story isn't special, or my story isn't unique, or what story, , like, there's nothing to my story.
But the truth is. I think you and I go through things all the time, , where we have to, I don't know, step out in faith where we have to be courageous, where we have to overcome loss, where maybe it's not something we did, but maybe it's like where, , someone really impacted us in our journeys or when we saw an answered prayer.
Like there's so many moments in our lives that we can just like zoom in on,, which can be, you know. The person who's been a drug dealer, like, I'm not really gonna relate to that. I'm not really gonna [00:24:00] be, I might be inspired and think it's a cool story, but it's like,, I haven't been to jail, I haven't been a drug dealer.
, So I guess your elements, like the elements of your story will relate to someone. And so get over the idea that like, your story isn't good enough because God has worked in your story and has worked in your life. And so find those gems, , throughout your life. Zone in on those because like no doubt that you have stories to share.
So, that's the first thing that, well, that's the last thing that I say. I think I'm up to, . Overcome that comparison. Try when sharing your story.
Jarrod Stackelroth: That's super important. Anita, and I don't know about you. I grew up in the church and you know, at, there was a time in my life where I thought I didn't have a testimony 'cause I haven't tried drugs or gone drinking or smoking or, you know, insert Adventist bad thing here.
Like I, I didn't experience some of those things and I thought, well, how are people gonna be? I. Impacted or amazed by my testimony , and I [00:25:00] discovered like now that I've had kids as well, it's like when I share with them that like. I didn't have to give into peer pressure. I didn't have to try some of those things.
That in itself is a powerful testimony 'cause it shows that you don't have to make the mistakes. I think we started the program talking a little bit about this. You don't have to make the mistakes. You can learn from other people's mistakes. You can see other people making mistakes and it helps you to avoid some of those pitfalls and that becomes a powerful story.
In itself. , , As you reflected there, it was like, yeah, for sure. Like we should not be comparing our testimonies. 'cause the reality is God works with each of us individually in the individual way that it will help us. But the reason we share is because there'll be someone out there that it can relate to.
We might be inspired by God's grace and his mercy and his glory through that drug dealer's testimony, or whatever. But we might be really hit by. Someone who always worked for God and knew God, but experienced [00:26:00] burnout in the church because they were just like trying to do too much. Or they had, they had a misconception of trying to earn God's favor and we might be really impacted or changed even by that story because that relates more to our testimony.
I've always been fascinated by the prodigal. Son, , the lost son, the extravagant son who left his father. I've always been impacted as well by the eldest son's journey. He didn't leave the father.
Zanita Fletcher: Hmm.
Jarrod Stackelroth: But his at attitude wasn't great in terms of love and forgiveness and welcoming his his brother back.
, And that story ends with an invitation to him. What is he gonna choose now? We already know the younger son, he went out, he went wild and he came back. Great, good for him. But is the older son gonna accept the invitation of the father? Come join us in the party, come be part of this. , For me that's always been quite impactful 'cause it's like, well, I haven't left the church and then come back to [00:27:00] the church.
But I've had seasons where I've struggled with. The church and I've struggled with my journey and, and you know, as you get older, you can't help but have testimonies about where God is working if you have that relationship or that, that time with God. , Because he does, he, he never abandons us.
He always works with us. So, yeah. I I think that's a super awesome point. I'm gonna share in the, , comments we've got, the six tips that we've shared today. I think they're practical and helpful. , So you can read them back there. , And you guys , can follow those along. Anything else we wanna say when we're wrapping up?
Sunita? Anything else we should leave?
Zanita Fletcher: Look, there's many things you could say. I think the only other thing I would say that maybe we haven't mentioned is I think often when we think of testimony, people dive into telling their whole life story. , But you don't have to tell your whole life story. I guess. There can be like moments where maybe you are 10 years into your faith and now you are doubting God, like, how'd you get through [00:28:00] that?
Or, maybe you've lost a loved one. 50 years into your faith journey in a, I don't know, it's causing you to question things or you're struggling to hold on. So I think like, look at the other moments, like you don't have to tell people everything from birth to death or birth to now. Mm-hmm. , Zoom in on those, yeah.
Those other moments. But I think that's the only other thing I would say. Maybe
maybe like practically speaking, people can like, think about their lives in the smaller moments, , sometime this week and try writing it out or sharing it with someone.
Jarrod Stackelroth: Yeah, I, I like that point because, maybe it's a bonus tip for us today.
Oh, I'm a vegetarian. But someone once said, you know, give, give the drumstick not the whole chicken. You can't swallow the whole chicken at once. Just, just take the drumstick. , Practically, yeah, I think that's a great idea that you mentioned. You know, , pray about it this week. Use your personal devotional time to write out some of your short testimonies, different versions of your story so that you've, I find writing it down makes you ready.
So I would just [00:29:00] leave our friends with this. Be ready. Pray for the Holy Spirit to give you an opportunity to share your testimony and then be ready to share a good story with someone that asks you. Because if we ask for those God opportunities, I think he will give us those good opportunities to do that.
So try and share your testimony this week. Send us a comment or a message or an email to record, , to, yeah, let us know how it goes. If you actually do it. If you try some of these tips, share your story with someone somewhere, , let us know how that goes.
Zanita Fletcher: we're also always looking for stories at record and Signs, so if you know someone with a good story, if you're willing to share your story, we would love to hear it and receive it and read it and all those things.
So. Inbox is open a
Jarrod Stackelroth: hundred percent. Awesome. Well, God bless you all. Thanks Anita.
Zanita Fletcher: Thanks Jarad. Speak to you next week.