Hey there. Looks like we're going deep into the world of Canadian charities.
David:Specifically, how they handle CRA audits.
Sara:Yeah. The kind that make you sweat. You know?
David:It's not something to take lightly. The stakes are pretty high.
Sara:Okay. So high stakes. Like, what's the worst case?
David:Worst case, a CRA audit gone wrong could mean the end
Sara:The end.
David:Of the charity, revocation of their status.
Sara:So not just fines, but they can't even operate anymore.
David:Exactly. Exactly. Plus the damage to their reputation.
Sara:Right. All those news stories hurts donations.
David:And public trust, plus just the cost of dealing with the audit itself.
Sara:Taking money away from their actual work. Exactly. Now the CRA, they always say education first. Right?
David:They do.
Sara:So are they always willing to work with charities?
David:They emphasize education. It's true. Often provide guidance
Sara:Mhmm.
David:To help charities, you know, get back on track. But
Sara:That's not a guarantee.
David:Sometimes they'll take action.
Sara:If it's serious?
David:If they find serious violations. Yeah.
Sara:So a bit of both them.
David:You they could say that. That's why preparation is so important.
Sara:Okay. Got it. So types of audits, what are we talking about?
David:Two main types. Office audits and then field audit.
Sara:Oh, office audit. That's like reviewing paperwork.
David:Yeah. Like a document review.
Sara:Lesson terms.
David:It's remote usually. They don't come to you.
Sara:Okay.
David:But still very thorough.
Sara:Gotcha.
David:Now a field audit, that's different. They come to you.
Sara:Oh, it's more intimidating.
David:It can be, especially if you're not prepared.
Sara:Makes sense.
David:No matter what type, though, you gotta have your records straight.
Sara:Alright. So what gets a charity on the CRA's radar?
David:Well, sometimes, honestly, it's just random.
Sara:Like bad luck?
David:Like winning a bad lottery. Yeah. But, usually, there's a trigger.
Sara:Okay. Like what?
David:Problems in their t thirty ten filing. That's common.
Sara:The annual return they have to do?
David:Exactly. Mistakes, things missing, any inconsistency.
Sara:Red flag.
David:Red flag. Then there's public complaints.
Sara:Like someone reports them.
David:Right. If the CRA gets complaints, they have to look into it.
Sara:And bad press too, I bet.
David:Negative media coverage? Yeah. That can trigger it too.
Sara:So it's not just what the charity does, but what people say.
David:Exactly. And connections matter too.
Sara:Connection.
David:Like, if a charity is linked to, say, a tax shelter or another organization that's being investigated.
Sara:Makes sense. Guilt by association kinda thing.
David:You could put it that way.
Sara:Okay. Let's say the charity does get audited. What happens first?
David:Usually, they get what's called a pre audit questionnaire.
Sara:Sounds fun.
David:That's where the CRA really digs deep.
Sara:Into what?
David:Everything. The charity's mission, how they fundraise
Sara:Okay.
David:Their governance
Sara:Yeah.
David:Even their political activities.
Sara:Wow. Thorough.
David:It is. And that questionnaire, it's important.
Sara:To answer? Well, I'm guessing.
David:To respond quickly, thoroughly, show you're cooperating.
Sara:Right. Right. And what happens after the audit? What can the CRA do?
David:It varies. Sometimes it's just a letter clarifying some rules Okay. Or maybe a compliance agreement. The charity has to fix things.
Sara:And worst case.
David:The worst is revocation.
Sara:Meaning.
David:Charity loses its status completely. Often, they're hit with a big tax bill too.
Sara:Ouch. Anything else that
David:bad? Annulment. It's rare.
Sara:But What's that?
David:Basically, the CRA says, you should never have been a charity.
Sara:So they were registered by mistake?
David:Something like that.
Sara:Not a good outcome.
David:No. Now charities can appeal the CRA's findings, but
Sara:It's tricky.
David:Very complex. You'll need expert help, lawyers, accountants.
Sara:Not a DIY project then. Definitely not. This is all really helpful. So what can charities do to get ready for an audit?
David:Get the right team in place. Lawyers, accountants early on.
Sara:Don't try to do it alone.
David:Exactly. They can guide you, make sure you're compliant.
Sara:Yeah.
David:And importantly, set up that solicitor client privilege right away.
Sara:Makes sense. Other proactive steps.
David:Documentation, detailed records, everything. Keep them for six years.
Sara:Six years. Wow.
David:CRA requirement. And it's not just about the receipts. Oh. You need to explain every expense, show it connects to your mission.
Sara:Even small stuff.
David:Everything. And if you know there's a problem, fix it before the audit.
Sara:Get ahead of it.
David:Yeah. Exactly. Then there's voluntary disclosure, but that's
Sara:Risky.
David:It can be. You're telling the CRA you messed up.
Sara:So why do it?
David:Sometimes it can lessen penalties, shows good faith.
Sara:Okay.
David:But you need legal advice there. It's complex.
Sara:So proceed with caution.
David:Got it.
Sara:Got it. Now what are some things that get charities in trouble during these audits?
David:Well, like we said, bad record keeping, that's number one.
Sara:Right. No receipts, no proof.
David:Exactly. Unclear purposes is another one.
Sara:Meaning?
David:The charity's goals are too vague, don't align with CRA rules.
Sara:So you can't just say, we wanna do good. It has to be specific.
David:It has to fit their definition of charitable, then there's gifts to the wrong people.
Sara:Meaning?
David:The money goes to someone who isn't also a CRA approved charity.
Sara:So rules about where the money can go?
David:Absolutely. Unrelated business activities, that's another one.
Sara:Like what?
David:Say you're an environmental charity, but you're also running
Sara:Uh-huh.
David:A for profit bakery. That's unrelated.
Sara:So any business they do has to connect to their goals?
David:Has to be in support of their mission. Yes.
Sara:Makes sense.
David:Then you've got political activities. Gotta be careful there.
Sara:Like, what's allowed, what isn't?
David:Some advocacy is okay, but no endorsing candidates, that sort of thing.
Sara:Right. No picking sides.
David:Exactly. And finally, private benefits, that's a big no no.
Sara:Meaning?
David:Charity work can't be for the personal gain of the people running it.
Sara:So it really has to be for the public good.
David:Exactly.
Sara:This has been incredibly helpful. Really appreciate it.
David:Glad to be here.
Sara:We've covered so much. Types of audits, triggers, what to do, what not to do.
David:We've laid some good groundwork.
Sara:We have. Anything else we should hit before we move on?
David:One more thing. Terrorism financing.
Sara:Oh, wow. Okay.
David:It's serious. Yeah. The CRA, they have very strict rules.
Sara:To prevent what?
David:Charities being used to fund terrorism, even accidentally.
Sara:So it's about national security too?
David:Exactly. And the penalties, they're huge.
Sara:Like what?
David:Criminal charges, immediate loss of charitable status.
Sara:That's a lot of pressure.
David:It is. But the CRA, they provide guidance. Oh, good. Other groups too like the Canadian Centre for Philanthropy.
Sara:So charities can get help with this.
David:Absolutely. But they have to be proactive. You know?
Sara:Really understand the rules.
David:And put good systems in place.
Sara:It's not just checking boxes. It's about actually doing it right.
David:Exactly. Has to be part of their culture.
Sara:This is eye opening. We've talked about audits, financials, and now this, which is obviously huge.
David:It's a lot to take in.
Sara:It is. I feel like we've given our listeners a good overview, though.
David:I think so. They're ready for a deeper dive now.
Sara:Definitely. But let's give them a moment to process all this. We'll be back soon to really unpack some of these topics.
David:Back again. Hope you had a minute to think about all that.
Sara:Lots to digest for sure.
David:There is. Let's dig into some specifics. The T3010, for example.
Sara:The dreaded T3010. Yeah. It seems like a big deal.
David:It is. Think of it like, a detailed report card for the charity. Okay. The CRA, they use it to really understand how the charity operates. And it has a deadline six months after their fiscal year ends.
Sara:So no late submissions.
David:Not a good look. Makes the CRA suspicious, like you're hiding something.
Sara:And it's not just about getting it in on time. Right?
David:Right. The information inside the t thirty ten, that's key.
Sara:It all has to be correct.
David:Accurate, complete, match up with all their other records.
Sara:So any little mistake
David:Could lead to a bigger audit. Yeah.
Sara:Makes sense.
David:Yeah.
Sara:You mentioned donation receipts earlier, another tricky area.
David:Donation receipts. Yeah. They're important.
Sara:For the donors. Right.
David:Exactly. So the donors can get their tax credits, but there are rules. Lots of them.
Sara:More than just a thank you note.
David:Oh, yeah. Specific format, charity's registration number has to be there.
Sara:Okay.
David:Donor's info, what the donation was, cash, property, all that. Very specific.
Sara:The CRA is picky.
David:They have to be. It's about preventing abuse, making sure those receipts are legit.
Sara:So what if a charity messes that up?
David:Big consequences. They can lose their receiving privileges.
Sara:Meaning?
David:They can't issue those tax receipts anymore.
Sara:Wow. That's gotta hurt donations.
David:Huge impact. Yeah. Donors want that tax break.
Sara:Makes sense. So really important to get those receipts right.
David:Crucial. Good financial controls, understanding the rules, getting expert help if you need it.
Sara:Okay. So t 30 tens, receipts, anything else financially that trips charities up?
David:Ineligible individuals.
Sara:Ineligible. Like, what does that even mean?
David:People who shouldn't be in charge of a charity's money.
Sara:Because?
David:Past convictions, legal problems, that sort of thing.
Sara:Like fraud, something like that.
David:Could be. Yeah. The The CRE wants to make sure the people handling the money are, you know, trustworthy.
Sara:Makes sense. So what if they find someone who's ineligible?
David:Bad news for the charity. Could lose their status, get shut down.
Sara:Wow. Serious stuff. It's not just about the numbers. It's about the people too.
David:It all matters. Background checks, due diligence, that's crucial.
Sara:Speaking of money, what about investments? Any rules there?
David:There are. Charities can invest their assets. But
Sara:No gambling at all on Bitcoin.
David:Not exactly. The CRA expects them to be prudent. You know?
Sara:Safe investments.
David:Lower risk.
Sara:Yeah.
David:And it has to align with their charitable purpose.
Sara:So they can't just chase big returns. Has to be responsible.
David:Right. If the CRA thinks the investments are too risky, they'll take a closer look.
Sara:Makes sense. Wanna protect those charitable dollars.
David:Exactly. And speaking of protection, gotta mention terrorism financing again.
Sara:Right. We talked about that earlier. Huge issue.
David:It is. The CRA, they're really focused on preventing that.
Sara:Making sure charities aren't used to fund terrorism even by accident.
David:Even by accident. Yeah. The consequences are serious. Criminal charges even?
Sara:Wow. So much for charities to keep track of.
David:It is a lot, but there's help out there.
Sara:Like what?
David:Guidance from the CRA, training from groups like the Canadian Center for Philanthropy.
Sara:So they're not alone in figuring this all out.
David:Not at all. But they do have to take it seriously.
Sara:Really understand the rules and put those safeguards in place.
David:It's about more than just following the letter of the law. It's the spirit of it too.
Sara:Doing things the right way.
David:Exactly. And speaking of doing things right, there's one more thing. Making sure that charities work actually benefits the public good. That's key.
Sara:That's, like, the whole point of charity, isn't it? What does that mean for the CRA, though?
David:They wanna see proof that the charity is actually making a difference, living up to its mission.
Sara:So a nice mission statement isn't enough. You gotta show results.
David:Exactly. They'll look at the programs, the spending, make sure it's all adding up.
Sara:What are some red flags there?
David:If they can't show how their work is helping, that's a problem. Or if too much money goes to admin costs, not enough to the actual cause.
Sara:So finding that balance being efficient but also effective.
David:Exactly. Transparency is big too. Mhmm. The CRA wants to see good governance, clear financial reports, accountability.
Sara:Okay. So we've covered a ton. T 30 tens, who's running the charity, investments. Now this whole idea of proving you're actually doing good, it's a lot.
David:It is. But these rules, they're there for a reason.
Sara:To protect the whole sector. Right?
David:Exactly. Keep things honest. Maintain public trust.
Sara:Important stuff. Before we wrap up, can you talk more about those experts you mentioned, the lawyers, accountants?
David:Oh, they're crucial, especially when it comes to audits.
Sara:Why is that?
David:They know the rules inside and out. They can help charities interpret them, stay compliant.
Sara:So they help with the t thirty ten, that questionnaire we talked about.
David:All of that. Plus, they've got experience. You know? They've seen it all.
Sara:Real world advice, not just textbook stuff.
David:Exactly. And, honestly, they just take some of the pressure off.
Sara:Peace of mind, knowing someone's got your back.
David:Exactly. Yeah. Getting expert help, it's not a sign of weakness. It's being smart.
Sara:I like that. So audits, they're serious but not impossible to handle.
David:Not at all. Preparation is key and having the right support.
Sara:Okay. This has been super helpful. But before we finish up, I wanna talk about how charities can actually balance all this, fulfilling their mission, but also staying compliant. Seems tricky. It is tricky.
Sara:It's like they wanna do good. Right?
David:Right.
Sara:But they gotta do it by the rules. Tough balance.
David:It is. A lot of charity struggle with that.
Sara:Especially with what we've talked about, the penalties, the the bad press, losing trust.
David:Yeah. No one wants that.
Sara:So how do they manage it all?
David:Well, I think it helps to remember why those rules are there.
Sara:Okay.
David:It's not to make things difficult. It's to protect everyone.
Sara:Protect the charities themselves.
David:Them, the donors, the whole system. Make sure things are done honestly.
Sara:So compliance is about more than just avoiding trouble.
David:It should be part of their values.
Sara:Like, built into how they operate.
David:Exactly. From the top down.
Sara:Board of directors, staff, everyone. Everyone.
David:Governance, financials, programs, fundraising, everything.
Sara:It can't just be one person's job then.
David:Nope. Gotta be a whole culture of compliance.
Sara:And that probably takes work keeping up with changes.
David:Oh, yeah. It's ongoing. Training, getting advice, always check-in to make sure they're doing things right.
Sara:I bet technology helps with that.
David:Huge help. Software for accounting, donor management, all kinds of tools. Makes it easier to stay on top of things.
Sara:So it's not just about paperwork anymore?
David:Definitely not. Technology can make a big difference.
Sara:Good to know.
David:And charities, they don't have to figure this out alone.
Sara:Right. There are those groups we talked about.
David:And others. Networks, conferences, they can share ideas, best practices, get advice.
Sara:Strength in numbers kind of thing.
David:Exactly. That's one of the great things about the sector.
Sara:I like that. So it's tough, but there's support out there
David:Absolutely.
Sara:To all those charities out there doing amazing work.
David:We see you. Keep it up.
Sara:We do. And remember, compliance, it's not the enemy.
David:It's about doing things right, building trust, making a bigger impact.
Sara:Couldn't have said it better myself.
David:Thanks for having me.
Sara:This has been great. Really insightful stuff.
David:Hope it helps those charities out there navigate all this.
Sara:I think it will. And to our listeners, thanks for joining us for this deep dive.
David:Stay curious.
Sara:Stay informed, and keep making a difference.