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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holhouse. So since Trump got in late last year or I guess, technically, he won late last year and got in office earlier this year. There's been a big shift in the overall sentiment here in America. I'm not sure about you, but a year ago, we were still living under the Biden administration and watching Kamala gearing up to steal the election.
Seth Holehouse:There was a lot of fear. I was concerned. I was thinking, you know, for me, I'm I'm a very public person criticizing the government that, you know, in many ways, could say had a communist coup, and we saw our own agencies being weaponized against us, and people were being debanked. They're being targeted by the FBI. I mean, it was kind of a scary place to live.
Seth Holehouse:Now since Trump's got in, we've seen a lot of good things happen. I'm still waiting on a lot of things to happen. Epstein list for one of them. There's a lot of things I I I hope I would have seen by now, but we haven't, but that's not today's discussion. Today's discussion is just a sober, this you know, kind of discussion about where the country's at right now.
Seth Holehouse:So my guest today is a guy named Clayton Lewin. He's actually the founder of Heaven's Harvest, the the survival food company that I work with. But today's episode is not necessarily about food very much as this as it's more so about the overall mindset of the Americans right now. Because what Clayton senses, and it's also my same sense, is that for a lot of people in America, they've kind of put their feet up. It's this feeling of, okay, Trump's in, we're all okay, there's no more bad guys, Trump's gonna take care, he's gonna drain the swamp, get rid of the deep state.
Seth Holehouse:But my feeling is that we're not in a place where we're out of the woods. It's actually we're actually quite far away from that. And and so today's discussion is just gonna be a sober, open, and honest discussion with Clayton, who understands survival and preparedness, like, extremely well. Just talking about where's the country at? Where are the where are the people at?
Seth Holehouse:What are the threats that our country is still facing? Because I feel like it's my duty as someone that has an opportunity to speak to a lot of people and influence a lot of people in this country and really around the world, that I have to be vigilant and I have to stay aware of the important issues. And I do think that preparedness as a whole is something that we cannot relax on. We cannot just put our feet up and say, we're fine now. Actually, feel in a strange way that we're at more risk now than we were even a year ago.
Seth Holehouse:And because a lot of our enemies, it's not just who's who's the president. Right? We've got globalist entities. We've got NGOs. We've got, people at the West talking about how, you know, they're gonna need to control our water supply.
Seth Holehouse:We've got the CCP, there's there's so many different vectors and different ways that we're being attacked, not to mention spraying from the skies and so much more. This discussion with Clayton is just gonna be that, just an open discussion about what's going on, how can we get through this as a country, and what's on the other side. Now I did mention real quickly there, I mentioned spraying in the skies, just throwing a quick little promo. We launched a website, make skies blue again. It's really a movement.
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Seth Holehouse:Alright. So let's go ahead and dive in this interview with Clayton. And again, it's just we're we're gonna be talking about survival, water, the globalist elites, their end goals. We're talking about all this stuff and much more. So please enjoy interview.
Seth Holehouse:Mister Clayton Lewin, it's great to have you back on the show, man. Thank you very much for giving us your time today.
Clayton Llewellyn:Seth, thanks for having me.
Seth Holehouse:So you run, heavensharvest.com, which actually I'll I'll pull the website up really quickly so people know because it's it's, it's really helpful to get insight from someone like yourself. So here's your website. You specialize in survival food, seeds for planting, supplies for water management, water purification, water bottles. You've got your finger on the pulse, as it relates to what the American people are focused on. And I know that, you know, around say Hurricane Helene, or some of these natural disasters, the Maui fires, or even under the entire four year period of the Biden administration, it was very different than what you're seeing now.
Seth Holehouse:And I have a sense, and I'd love to get your feedback on this too, and what you're seeing, but I have this sense that for a lot of Americans, especially Americans that are conservative, more prepared minded, vote, wanting to get Trump in, that now that Trump is back in office, there's this little bit of a kind of resting on our laurels, can put our feet up now, like we've got, you know, we've got more control in DC than we ever have before, and our country is going to be safe again. And I think that there's a lot of people that are thinking that way and kind of feeling that way, but there's something about, for me at least, I'm not sure about you, but I don't think we're out of the woods yet. Actually, I feel like, if anything, that we're going to get caught blindsided. But what is your sense? Because again, as I set up, you know, you're running a survival company and you understand where the American sentiment is.
Seth Holehouse:So what are you seeing on your end and what's your gut telling you about things?
Clayton Llewellyn:No. That's you're kinda nailing it right there. It's like as soon as Trump got in, we all I hate to say the conservatives, we all took a sigh of relief. Like, we've got somebody in there that can save us or protect us and not let this go to hell. But quite honestly, I don't see the situation getting any better anytime soon.
Clayton Llewellyn:I don't think this is something Trump can fix. Don't weary all I voted for the guy. I love him being in there. But it's it's I don't see how anything's gotten better. I certainly understand, like I said, like we talked about earlier, like, we can take a big sigh of relief and step back for a second, you know, but it's the economy is not doing a whole lot better.
Clayton Llewellyn:The price of things in this country is just through the roof. I hate to say I'm kind of in a we're kind of in a bubble here, but I don't think we realize how tough of a time, you know, eighty, ninety, 90 five percent of this country is having trying to afford everyday items. You know, it's from food to housing, like everything. It's just, it's crazy. It's through the roof.
Clayton Llewellyn:Again, it's not the five or 10% that concern me. It's the 90 or 95% that do. Because if something starts to go bad, I believe that's where we're gonna have a big problem.
Seth Holehouse:And and what have you seen in terms of like, since because I know that you've been in business for quite some time and you you were were you saw the, you know, 2016 Trump getting in, and you saw the reaction. You saw the reaction when Biden got in, and now Trump is back in. So how have you kind of seeing the the the kind of the charts of of, you know, the public's response to this in terms of their purchase of items that represent a fear or distrust in the government, I guess you could say.
Clayton Llewellyn:This is a bad analogy, but we never think of buying windshield wipers when the sun is shining. We always wait to replace our windshield wipers when we're getting poured on. Sitting outside the hardware store or the auto parts store, trying to put a stinking windshield wiper on. Seth, definitely calmed down and it did it last time too. It calms down right after the election, which is good.
Clayton Llewellyn:You know what I mean? Like again, we can all take a sigh of relief, like feel a little better about this, but we don't need to let our foot off the gas. You know what I mean? And again, isn't about panic. You know what I mean?
Clayton Llewellyn:It's about peace of mind. So don't wait till the last minute and you think, oh my gosh, I need to go out and get all this stuff. And you're gonna see it happen here soon with, we talked earlier, the tariffs are starting to hit a lot of places. They overstocked in the first quarter, which made the growth look great. But all they were doing was putting that stuffs on the shelves.
Clayton Llewellyn:And I think we're about to see a lull or panic buying or things disappearing on the shelf here in the next couple of weeks. I think in four to six weeks, we're gonna start seeing products not show up. Products empty on the shelves. Again, there's a lot of stuff we get from China. There's a lot of stuff we get from Mexico, from Canada.
Clayton Llewellyn:A lot of food products that people don't realize. So I don't think it's time to slow down. I think it's again, this is one of those things it's I can't afford to go out and buy a year's worth of food. But I can afford to go out and buy a week's worth of food a little bit at a time. You know, and the people that have continued to buy are of that mindset.
Clayton Llewellyn:Like when I see the orders come across, I recognize most of them. I recognize the name, recognize the address where this is going. So these aren't people that are they're not the fearful type. You know what mean? They're not the panic buyers.
Clayton Llewellyn:They're the ones that have made a lifestyle out of this and by a little bit of time, they've been doing it for ten, twelve, fifteen years. We've had, you know, some of them have doing it for a year or two. But you know, it's the ones again, it's the 95 or 90% that concern me that if something does happen or when it does happen, they're the ones who are gonna empty the shelves out, be looting, that kind of stuff. So yeah, definitely slows down which you kind of expect. But you still have those people that are continuing this lifestyle, you know, being prepared throughout the whole thing.
Seth Holehouse:And what what is your overall gut feeling? I mean, do you do you share that sentiment and just like, okay, it's time to put our feet up and rest on our laurels a little bit? Or do you have some sort of sense that we're not quite as safe and secure as the more mainstream folks might believe that we are.
Clayton Llewellyn:I don't like, I don't think we're any better off than we were. You know what I mean? Like I said, like the affordability crisis in this country, like that really concerns me. You know, and it's turn off the news, turn off the media, quit reading the paper, and really dive into YouTube for a little while. You know, dive into TikTok.
Clayton Llewellyn:You see the younger generations are struggling right now. I mean, Struggling to buy anything, to afford anything. They're struggling to live. We talked about mortgages earlier. It shocked me when you start hearing these stories and I get it.
Clayton Llewellyn:You know what I mean? My car insurance went up. I haven't had any accidents. I haven't had any speeding tickets. Why is my car insurance doubling?
Clayton Llewellyn:Well, because it costs twice as much now to repair a vehicle as it did a couple years ago. My homeowner's insurance has gone up 30% or 40%. Why is my homeowner's insurance going up that much? Well, if I have to repair that house, it's 30% or 40% more to fix my house now. So a lot of these people with mortgages that could afford a $2,000 mortgage that was in their budget, they're already stressed now because they're paying more for their food.
Clayton Llewellyn:They're paying more for their insurances. Like they're paying more for everything. And now their escrow accounts are doubling because their insurance and then their property taxes have doubled over the last couple of years. Like that really concerns me. You know what I mean, we'll really get into it here.
Clayton Llewellyn:Think the baby boomers have really driven, they're gonna hate me for saying this, here comes the negative comments. But I mean, we've got a baby boomer generation that has sat on a lifetime of wealth that have bought second homes, third homes, especially where we're at. Like I've got a couple people here making very good money that can't even afford a house where we live anymore. Can't afford to rent anything anymore. And it's not just happening here, it's happening all over the country.
Clayton Llewellyn:But it's, you know, it's kind of like these baby boomers again have driven the prices up to being unaffordable for everybody else. And I think that's gonna be a while before that gets fixed. I asked a realtor friend of mine the other day, everything's just overpriced. Like how far overpriced are we? He's like, you know, we're probably 30 to 40% in the real estate market.
Clayton Llewellyn:So either those houses have to come down 30 or 40% or wages have to catch up to pay for that stuff. That's ten, fifteen years before wages catch that. You know, so it's the affordability crisis here hurts me. A recession, I don't think we're I think we're right on the cusp of a recession. I really do.
Clayton Llewellyn:Like, you know, it's and I was thinking about this the other day. Like, Biden kind of weaponized the dollar, you know what mean? To where we had the BRICS countries wanting to come out and, you know, quit using the US dollar. It's like Biden weaponized the dollar and Trump is weaponizing tariffs. You know, like, and we can see that with Brazil.
Clayton Llewellyn:Brazil's already we don't want any more of your soybeans. We don't want any more of your pork. We don't want any more of your corn. And they've already set up with or excuse me, China doesn't want any more of this stuff set up or bought from us. They're already cutting deals with Brazil.
Clayton Llewellyn:Know I mean? They've already set up the infrastructure in South America with the ports and the farming and everything else. That's not coming back to The US.
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Clayton Llewellyn:You know, I think that's done. Like, that's over. Where where who we gonna start selling our corn and soybeans to? You know, and then like kind of the third thing with India and Pakistan, like that's that's another concern of mine. That's not getting a whole lot of attention right now.
Clayton Llewellyn:But we've all we're kind of the whole world's kind of already picking sides on that. And I feel like those are two countries that are both both have nuclear weapons that I don't that really concern me. I'm I'm more concerned with India and Pakistan having a nuclear weapon than I am with Russia. Like, I I mean, that's just a gut feeling, but I'm concerned with what's going on over there.
Seth Holehouse:Oh, I mean, actually, I'll pull up a book. There's a book that I read a couple years ago by Peter Zaihan. I'm not sure if you've heard of Peter Zaihan. He's a geopolitics expert. There's certain certain things that he believes that I kind of differ from him.
Seth Holehouse:However, he wrote this book called The End of the World is Just the Beginning. This is mapping the collapse of globalization, and this book is one of the most profound books I've ever read, in terms of capturing what's happening geopolitically. And what he's explaining in this book is exactly where we're at right now. Like he walks through in this book, like Lewis says, mapping the collapse of globalization. He goes back in history thousands of years ago, and maps out the the growth of different civilizations.
Seth Holehouse:And why did Egypt become so powerful? How did that relate to their access to the river? You know, what you know, even getting into when the windmills were invented, how windmills, allowed farmers and civilizations to grind grain without needing a water source to do it because they had to use mills, to mill grain. When the windmill came out, they started to have civilizations kind of moving inland and away from these water sources because now they could use wind as a power source to grind, their wheat, right? And so he gets into this, it's a really complex, complex book, but he gets into kind of modern day America, and looking at especially, you know, post World War two, how really that, you know, World War two, established a whole new order for how the world ran.
Seth Holehouse:You know, the Bretton Woods agreement, know, these things coming after, you know, post World War two, but, you know, one of the big things is that America, you know, especially with our our naval force, stabilized global trade, that you could have a tanker that was safely going from, you know, Taiwan or China or a big cargo ship, whatever, transporting. But, basically, what he's saying in in this book, what he's pointing to is every single indicator is showing that globalization is dying. And I think that what Trump is doing with the tariffs is accelerating what what, Biden did with the dollar is accelerating it, right? Because, you know, our this globalized world was able to exist with the dollar as the reserve currency, like it set up this neat little order that allowed things to exist. It's okay, it makes sense for the American and our army and our naval force to protect the waters to ensure safe trade because that's that that trade that was, you know, happening helped strengthen the dollar.
Seth Holehouse:There's all these different mechanisms that took us to where we are now, but what he details in this is that that's all ending, and it's that, you know, you think like, you know, you're in manufacturing and distribution, think about like how finite supply chains are, and how they're this chain link, but every city might you might have 20 different links in this chain, and every single link is so weak, where if oil goes up $10 a barrel, that one link gets stressed. And so right now, you go to the grocery store, or you know, try to source as much as we do locally, but you know, we buy berries year round because my daughters like eating berries, and I'll look sometimes and you'll see it's like, this was this was grown in Mexico and packaged somewhere else, or a lot of our food is, say it's grown in South America, it's shipped to China, and it's packaged and processed in China, then shipped over back here to America where we buy it, and and these this whole system, I mean, without Trump throwing all the tariff stuff at it, and without Biden weaponizing the dollar, this system is so fragile, but like where it's at now, it's at a place where where my sense is is that it's on such shaky ground, and I really do think that there's this discussion of like the New World Order, or the Great Reset, and these things are coming, and I think that one perspective that I have is that the idea of a great reset or whatever that these ideas weren't invented by the so called elites.
Seth Holehouse:I think these are cycles and patterns that just happen. It's just part of history, and they're trying to seize they're trying to take control of the fact that there's this reset coming. They want to be the ones coming out on top, but I do think that fundamentally though that whatever Trump does, like, you know, we're over a hundred days in, and a lot of the things that we'd hoped would happen, like getting rid of the IRS, releasing the Epstein list, like, you know, high profile arrests, filling up Guantanamo Bay with with treasonous politicians, like, of this stuff has happened. And so, to think that an even bigger scale that Trump's going to somehow dissolve the Federal Reserve and return our currency back to like a true, you know, kind of sovereign currency and all these big things that would have to happen. None of that's happening.
Seth Holehouse:And so my feeling is like, is he just is he just trying to soften the blow and trying this to kind of take us through this transition with as little collateral damage as as as as can be. It just it's hard to make sense of it.
Clayton Llewellyn:It sure is what it feels like. That sure is what it feels like. I love hearing it, but it never happens. You know? Never happens.
Clayton Llewellyn:But I do agree with that that analysis of that. I think he's just trying to soften the blow. And I was even thinking like when he got into office, when he was running for office a second time thinking, man, like, I would not wanna be commander in chief going into this economy. Like, I mean, I'm glad he's there. But boy, it's I don't know if you can fix what's wrong with it.
Clayton Llewellyn:I mean, it's just it's it's too far gone at this point. You know what? Our debt. I mean, look at our debt. Like, it's a what are we?
Clayton Llewellyn:A trillion dollars a year in interest right now. Like, we can't recover from that. You know what economists say that when you're at, 70% of GDP for your debt, you're in you're starting to get on shaky grounds. Are we like 120% now of GDP?
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. We're like in the death spiral. Like the ground shook like ten years ago.
Clayton Llewellyn:You can't recover from this. Like, you can't recover. And I and I and I can honestly understand why the rest of the world doesn't want the dollar anymore. You Somebody explained it to me in the easiest way you could that since World War II, if France wants a $100 bill, they've got to produce $100 worth of goods. If The United States wants $100 bill, we got to print one.
Clayton Llewellyn:You know, if you're from the outside looking in, yeah, I'm done with that system. That's enough. And I think the rest of the world's catching on. Well, they have caught on to that. You know, I think it's only a matter of time.
Clayton Llewellyn:And again, with him weaponizing the dollar and now Trump weaponizing tariffs, I don't think this ends well. I know why he's trying to do it. Like you said, soften the blow, but we can't you can't fire up manufacturing in this country. It would take two generations to get manufacturing back to where it was. Maybe.
Clayton Llewellyn:Maybe.
Seth Holehouse:Took two generations to get rid of it.
Clayton Llewellyn:Yeah. Yeah. You know, and it's like I've got a good friend of mine that works in the power industry. And like when Obama was shutting down all the coal manufacturing or the coal power plants, like, there's a there's a process to shutting them down and cleaning things up and, you know, maintaining them. Like when Obama shut them down, it was pull the lever, turn it off, see you later.
Clayton Llewellyn:Like that can't be started up. Like that needs to be rebuilt. And now with all the regulations we see in this country, like it'd take you fifteen years to get a permit to build a power plant. Like ain't gonna happen. Ain't gonna happen.
Clayton Llewellyn:So that's why I still don't feel good about this situation. You know what mean? That's why I don't trust what's going on. That's why we haven't slowed down with our preparedness, you know? And again, some people have, some people haven't.
Clayton Llewellyn:I completely understand taking a breath of fresh air for a little while. Sometimes it gets exhausting. You know, trying to package things now is absolutely exhausting. You know, and like you're talking about that supply chain, like it's so fragile, so fragile. And I don't ever remember it being like this twenty years ago.
Clayton Llewellyn:But anymore, it's like, you better have three backups for your backup just in case something happens.
Seth Holehouse:Oh, exactly. I agree. I agree completely. And I think you know more than most because you run multiple businesses. You're in, you know, you have to, you know, with whether it's your food buckets or number 10 cans or, you know, fencing material or whatever it is, you know, you're you're having to order these things.
Seth Holehouse:Like, you're not manufacturing your food buckets. I'm guessing that you're getting those from some sort of third party supplier. Right?
Clayton Llewellyn:And and, Seth, trying to find stuff made in this country, like, is it's next to impossible anymore. Next to impossible. Yep. Just this morning, I was trying to buy a new forklift for the warehouse. Like and the salesman told me, he's like, man, he's like, don't have any of these in stock, you're not gonna wanna buy one next month once these tariffs hit.
Clayton Llewellyn:Alright. Who makes one in the country? Like, well, you you might be able to find one, but good you know, most of parts can be made somewhere else. If anything, it's gonna be assembled here. But we don't even make a forklift anymore.
Seth Holehouse:Man, it's crazy. Yeah.
Clayton Llewellyn:It's insane. It's insane. You don't real like, we don't realize how fragile this system is. You know? I mean, it's just it's I think we're about to figure it out though.
Clayton Llewellyn:I think we're about to learn. Like I said, I think we're gonna in four to six weeks, maybe eight weeks, you're gonna start seeing the empty shelves and you're gonna start seeing the products that are imported from China. Everybody knows this. Go to go to Walmart and turn packages over and see where it's made, you know? So it's gonna hurt.
Clayton Llewellyn:It's gonna hurt before it feels better. I can promise you that.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. Even looking at my studio, I've got, you know, I've got so much technology sitting in front of me. You know, I've got probably 15 different monitors and sound equipment and video equipment, you know, my guess is probably 90% of stuff is made in China. And it's like, would love to not buy buy it, but if I can get American made, I always will choose American made even if it's five, ten, 20 percent more in some instances, but like some of these things, like you, they don't even make them in America. And you're right, because like if someone came to you say, Hey, Clayton, I want you to set up a new factory.
Seth Holehouse:We're gonna have you, manufacturing microchips. And and, you know, so you need to build out a factory line, you need to hire a hundred different, kind of line workers, and 20 engineers, and all this. Like it would take you years to put that together and to build a team and to do that. I mean, it's like I said, like, as you mentioned too, it's taken us a couple generations to get to where we are, and it's not going to be something where like the magical Trump snaps his fingers and we have this golden age where everyone is just, it's like, wow, it's 1950s again, and like a single, a man working a job as a, you know, as a as a painter or an auto mechanic can afford to buy a small house for his family and have a stay at home wife. It's like we're we're so, so far away from that.
Seth Holehouse:I I mean, that it's it's it's it's unfathomable how far away we've gotten from that.
Clayton Llewellyn:It is. Again, I read something the other day. Like, in 2020, a $65,000 a year income would buy the average house. Now it takes like $170,000 a year to buy the average house. Like, we're not going back there.
Clayton Llewellyn:Or if we do, there's a huge correction coming. Huge.
Seth Holehouse:That's the thing. That's what I mean, I agree with that. Actually, even I was recently listening to Tucker interview this woman named Catherine Austin Fitz. I'm not sure if you come across her or not. I've been trying to get her on the show for, like, three years.
Seth Holehouse:I'm convinced eventually I will be able. She's been the hardest person to get on the show. But, they're both talking, she's done a lot of very high level work in the government and finance, you know, financial sector and everything. She's actually the person that discovered the missing her and a research partner, they're the ones that discovered like $21,000,000,000,000 missing for the federal budget, right? So that, you know, right now she's going viral because she was talking about how that those trillions went into building underground bunkers as one of the things that they're doing.
Seth Holehouse:Interview, she details this and stuff that I've been I've heard, I heard, you know, ten years ago and watching, you know, are reading, you know, books and watching podcasts and seeing whistleblowers coming out. It seems so wild, but basically what she's kind of what she's saying is that was a few things that one is that the again, like the so called elites, that they they believe that there's some sort of major event coming. Like some sort of societal reset event type coming, and that they're actively preparing for it. And she also says that, I think it was the nineties, by the nineties, they had basically given up on America. That they they saw where things were going, and they said that there's kind of no hope, and that they're basically just working on building their own bunkers, own ways that they can survive.
Seth Holehouse:But, one thing that they did say in there, in that interview they both agreed with is basically, there's no, you know, and to kind of simplify it, there's no way of fixing America without completely resetting the country. Like, something significant has to happen. Like, we're our it's like you have a cancer patient that's got your stage four cancer in the bones, in the brain, like everything. And that's our country. Like, that's the corruption and the bloat of our country that there there has to be some sort of significant reset to get us back to, like, a new baseline.
Clayton Llewellyn:Yeah. I I agree with that a %. Like but here's the concerning part about that. Like, every generation before the last couple wanted to fight for the country. Listen to the new generation.
Clayton Llewellyn:They're over it. They're done. They've had enough. They can't afford a house. They've been told if they went and got a college education, you know, they could buy a four bedroom, two bath house in a little neighborhood with a new car.
Clayton Llewellyn:You know, they can't do that anymore. They've given up on the country. Seth, I'm telling you, has shocked me the last six months, like listening to these younger generations talk about how they feel about and I'm not talking like and I know we're all just oh, they're just complaining, they're whiners. Like, there it's legitimate complaints. Like, you know what mean?
Clayton Llewellyn:I'm making $100,000 a year and I can't afford to buy a house in The United States Of America. Like, I can't afford groceries. Like, it's crazy where things are at right now. Crazy. And I agree with her.
Clayton Llewellyn:Like, I don't think this is unfixable at this point. You can't fix it. Like, does it take another world war to start over? Is that where we're headed? And is that the is that the reset for the world?
Clayton Llewellyn:Because at the at the at the rate we're going, the trajectory we're going, this is this only gets worse. And and we've done nothing to fix it. Nothing. You know, politicians have padded their pockets. You know, the wealthy are building underground bunkers.
Clayton Llewellyn:So, you know, the 99% of us, we're in trouble. You know? Oh yeah. We're in trouble. Hey, here's the good news.
Clayton Llewellyn:I don't I think when this is all said and done, I think there'll be 10 or 15% of us left over and that 10 or 15% are gonna be the ones that were prepared.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. Yeah. Because I
Clayton Llewellyn:don't, because I, Seth, this sounds awful. You're not gonna have to survive for a year. You only have to survive for about six months and everybody else will be dead. There's some good news for the preppers.
Seth Holehouse:Know, but that's, I mean, as kind of bleak of an outlook as it is, I mean, if you take if you take a big step back and you look at you look at this, like, that's what it is. I just finished an interview with a guy, which I haven't published it yet, but, a guy named Ryan Matta, who's been really focusing on human trafficking and everything, and he's, you know, done his work with whistleblowers, and and basically what he was saying from his own research also the whistleblowers that he's worked, know, come out of HHS and, you know, different organizations that are running human trafficking type stuff, that The United States that the United States government runs the world's largest child trafficking network is run by our own government. Like, that's it's almost like, did I hear that right? That our own government runs the world's largest child trafficking operation. And so, is this the government we're trying to preserve?
Seth Holehouse:Like, is this like, you go back to 1776, I mean, know, people over a 3% tax or over some miniscule tax, right? Whereas now, you look at you look at even his taxation, right? Just for an average person, it's like, okay, you say you work your butt off, may see if you make a hundred thousand dollars a year, okay, well, $3,540,000 goes straight to the government, okay, what are you left with? How much that then is going to your property tax? How much of it is going to sales tax, right, of when you're buying something?
Seth Holehouse:If you pass away, you've got the estate tax and everything. Now, if you sell something used on eBay, you're paying tax on that. If say you have a small business, you know, and you've got you've got say 10 employees, well, you're paying all kinds of taxes on that, your employees are being then being taxed. I mean, I think realistically, at the end of the day, we're lucky if we keep 30% of what we earn, right? After property taxes and all, like we're living in it, we're living in basically a communist, maybe you can call it socialist, but we're living in, like this is not the land of the free anymore.
Seth Holehouse:This is the land of the taxed and the slit in the enslaved people that have been given their bread and circuses and their, you know, phone, you know, video games on the phone, and their internet gambling, and all the things that we've been given to distract us from the fact that we're living in a cage, like we don't have freedom here in America. It's that's the grand illusion, like that's what they've done is they've convinced us that we're the most free in the world, but we're not, like we're not even close to
Clayton Llewellyn:it. Not at all. And look in talking about what we're being taxed right there. And look how far we're in debt. Look at our infrastructure.
Clayton Llewellyn:Look at our airports. Like, it's falling apart. I hate I hate to say garbage because I don't ever wanna call my country garbage. But I mean, drive across the country and stop in the major cities. Like they're falling apart.
Clayton Llewellyn:Our roads are deteriorating. Our bridge the first time I've ever seen this, I just came back from Indiana. And like, I've seen us repair bridges. Like, there's bridges out in Southern Illinois and Indiana that are completely being torn down because they're in such disrepair. This is where we're at.
Clayton Llewellyn:And I'm sitting here thinking, how much does it cost to tear a bridge down and completely rebuild it? And how many of them need to be done across this country? And we're already 36,000,000,000,000 in debt. Like, how much longer can we sell that debt before any before anybody even doesn't wanna touch it anymore? You know, like I'd be a little hesitant to buy America's debt right now.
Clayton Llewellyn:But I don't know. Know, talking of taxes, I read something the other day and I've never thought about this, but I'm sure you've heard everybody complaining about like getting taxed on unrealized gains and this and that. The article I was reading was talking about our property taxes. We get taxed on unrealized gains every year. You know, I may have paid 300,000 for my house, but then you tell me it's worth 600,000.
Clayton Llewellyn:Like, wait a second, that's an unrealized gain. And this goes the whole way around the country with everybody doing it. Like, I'm surprised we've never fought back against that.
Seth Holehouse:I mean, it's it's crazy. And we're we're we're at, and I I've I've been very careful revealing where we live because people used to know that I lived in Ohio and I people showing up at my door like somehow. So now we moved and so I just kind of, know, kind of speak very generally, but where we're at, we're paying over a thousand dollars a month in property tax. It's just it's it's crazy. It's like, I can't imagine, like, what about the person that's, you know, own their own house, and they're retired living on a pension and Social Security, and they reassess the value, and their house has gone from being a $200,000 house ten years ago to a $600,000 house now.
Seth Holehouse:And everything is changed. I mean, going back to because I remember, you know, you mentioned the wages that you know, pre 2020, it was like what 65,000, right now it's 160,000 or whatever it is, and my parents told me the stories that I think when so I was born in '86, and my parents they bought a house I think in the mid 80s, we think before I was born, they bought a little a little ranch right in Columbus, Ohio, and I think that the house was looks like maybe 1,200 square feet, you know, probably a three bedroom, two bathroom, a small little ranch. I think that their house was maybe 70,000 or something. Their monthly payment for the house was $400, and my dad, after he graduated from college, he had a job, I think he was with AT and T, his first job, right, kind of out of college, I think he was making $22,000 a year, but that 22,000 in the 80s was enough to my mom wasn't working, right, she didn't have to work. They own their own house, And you know, they were, you know, they, you know, I was always grew up middle class and never left the middle class and, but they could actually survive off of that.
Seth Holehouse:It's like now it's like, there's no way, there's no way at all.
Clayton Llewellyn:Funny is that kind of adds up, right? Because it was, what is it your mortgage should be about 25% of your of your income. So at $400 you say 400.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah, I think it was around $400. Yeah.
Clayton Llewellyn:Yeah. Like that adds up about right to 25%. Now it's like scratching 40. I mean, like, it's just it's unaffordable anymore. It is.
Clayton Llewellyn:And it's not just like housing, it's everything. Everything is just crazy. And it's killing the middle class. It's killing 90% of us. Killing us, like and how does that get fixed?
Clayton Llewellyn:I don't I don't know what the answer is, but there's going to be a price to pay.
Seth Holehouse:No. I I agree. I I think even even the like like, I agree with a lot of what Trump is doing with the tariffs and bringing manufacturing back and it's like, yeah, we have to it's almost like if you if you ate sugar and cupcakes and donuts, the first thirty years of your life, and you weighed five hundred pounds, because you were completely irresponsible. You can't within a year, you're not healthy again. Like, it's gonna take you years to become healthy again.
Seth Holehouse:And so, what's happened is for decades and decades, we've exported debt, imported consumables, and we've been the world's largest consumer nation, and we've just been selling our debt, and the dollar has been, you know, of we've had currency manipulations by China, for instance, so they can manufacture what you know over and over there, they can manufacture the same thing that, you know, for tenth of the price it costs us here, a lot of that is currency manipulation, but we're at a place now where it's like, well, if we want to bring back that America, that golden age, like, it's almost like the first year of trying to lose 200 pounds, you're gonna suffer a lot, and that's this is the unfortunate thing is that, like, it's like our country has an addiction to cheap Chinese goods, and it's like, we're gonna have there's gonna be some pains, unfortunately, I think in going through, know, it could be probably the next five or ten years, they're gonna be a rough ride, as much as I'd love to say that that's not the case, There's no other way. It's like we live in a country with where the government runs the world's largest child trafficking networks.
Seth Holehouse:So do we really expect like God just to kind of open the sky up and and bring peace and harmony back to America because a handful of patriots are, you know, kind of fighting for freedom. It's like, yeah, that's good. But this is so much bigger than that.
Clayton Llewellyn:No. I agree. And Seth, it's it's either gotta be corrected or it's going to fail. And if it can be corrected, I'll be impressed. You know, because the trajectory we were on, it's not going to last.
Clayton Llewellyn:It can't last. It's impossible to last. So either we're going to pay for it, our kids are going to pay for it, our grandkids are going to pay for it, and it may be all three of us that pay for it. But somebody's got to pay for this and it's time to pay the piper.
Seth Holehouse:It is. Well, the other thing too is that now I'll pull up, I've got a few different videos to show. But, you know, for people that have been watching the the WEF and everyone's all excited. Oh, Klaus Schwab has stepped down. It's like, well, yeah.
Seth Holehouse:Now the interim chairman is the guy that I think was running Nestle. Actually, there's a short video. This is from MJ Truth over on on X. He says the new WEF interim chairman believes you don't have any rights to wash your car or fill your pond. Everyone should have just enough water to drink, right?
Seth Holehouse:So, I'll play this quick video really quickly here. It's a minute long. Actually, I've got maybe one other video I'll play, but it shows that they're not stopping, right? And this agenda to seize what should be ours, to seize what are these basic human rights like water. They're not stopping with this.
Seth Holehouse:Actually, I'll play this really quickly. This is fifty six
Peter Prabeck:Hello, I'm Peter Prabeck, the chairman of Nestle. There are apparently some misconceptions about my ideas on water. Let me make it clear from the beginning: I have always supported the human right to water. Everyone should have enough clean, safe water to meet their fundamental daily needs. About 50 to 100 liters per day.
Peter Prabeck:But not to fill a pool or wash a car. There is a difference. We must transform the way we think about water. By 2025, '1 point '8 billion people will be living in regions without enough water. Water scarcity is the greatest challenge we face today.
Peter Prabeck:And we need to start recognizing water as a precious resource. Hello, I'm Peter.
Seth Holehouse:So I've got that and I've got one other video, another one here. This is from another thing from the web. This is earlier. Actually, actually, is only a couple days ago that this was going around. I'll play this other video here.
Peter Prabeck:And now we need to put the economics of water not only in terms of monetary values, but also in terms of governance, in terms of of recognizing water as a as a commons that we now need to manage as a as a broad systems approach. So that's why this commission is not only necessary, but but urgent to take this challenge on. You know, not only have we not focused on economics of water.
Seth Holehouse:So there you go. I mean, you can see, and there's a bunch more that research I have that I want to get into, but you can see though that the agenda to seize control of the resources that we need to exist, it's not stopping.
Clayton Llewellyn:No. It's not. And you know what? They they wanna control the most abundant resource on the planet. I mean, are we we 80% water on the on the on the globe?
Clayton Llewellyn:I mean, like there's, I know we have areas of shortages of water, but literally 80% of the world is made up of water. Like they're just trying to control it. We can pipe this stuff. We can move it around. We move fuel around every day.
Clayton Llewellyn:We can move water around. But you did that, you know, we want less way to control everybody.
Seth Holehouse:Exactly. And so, know, tapping into kind of your your expertise and just understanding preparedness. Right? Which is really, really important. And obviously, you know, I've got my book coming out, know, Prep Like Noah, which I'll be kind of diving into a lot of these topics.
Seth Holehouse:But where, like, for someone that's is watching this, and they're thinking, Okay, I get what you guys are saying. Like, agree. My gut is telling me that we're not out of the clear. And actually that we won't be for some time. I do believe that at some point in the future, we will be in a very different way of living on this planet.
Seth Holehouse:But like right now, our planet is still, I think by and large, controlled by what you could probably boil down to small kind of multi generational, insanely wealthy families that a lot of my research has shown me that they most likely worship Satan or Lucifer or Moloch or Baal or there's some sort of dark dark arts behind their their motives, where they believe that they they are the ones that control the earth, like the way that Satan believes that this is, you know, he has the throne over this of the over this realm. And these are, you know, people that don't want us here. Right? They want to limit our population. They want only 10% of us here.
Seth Holehouse:And so, I think a lot of people that they still sense that these these these dark forces are controlling things and are trying to drive us into a situation where we need to whether it's for access to water or food or our currency, which has been digitized, there's these they're still moving forward with this plan. But for someone that's watching this and thinking, I want to be more prepared yet, like I'm struggling right now to, you know, cover rent and, you know, we have a new AC unit we have to buy or whatever it is. What are what are some of the tips that you have for people, like, in terms of preparedness? And you mentioned that you haven't stopped preparing. So what are the things that you're focused on right now that people would be perhaps overlooking or maybe too overwhelmed to look at rationally?
Clayton Llewellyn:Well, the biggest thing like we just saw right there is water. You know, I mean, we can live for a few weeks without food, we're only live for a few days without water. So securing a water source, a way to filter water, a way to store water is obviously the most important. And then comes the food. We've added a bunch of different products to the product line for whether you're in an apartment in the city or you're out in the country.
Clayton Llewellyn:And do we like I started Heaven's Harvest with like these same fears. You know what I mean? Like, and I hate to call them fears because they're not fears. It's just common sense. You know what I mean?
Clayton Llewellyn:Like, let's make sure we can take care of ourselves, take care of our family. But the seed kit, the heirloom seed kit, that's again, they're heirloom seeds. They'll regrow, you can replant those seeds every, you know, every year and get the same crop back. A lot of the seeds you buy at Home Depot or Lowe's or your local hardware store are hybrids, you know, they're not gonna grow again the following year. Again, seed companies know this, let's get them to come back and buy our product.
Clayton Llewellyn:So the heirloom seeds, mean, that's really important. You can get a kit, I think the kits $139 right now. I mean, it's just, it's crazy how big of a garden you could plan off of that. You know, we do have some of those starter seed kits. That's enough to get you going.
Clayton Llewellyn:I would recommend the 139 bucket. It's 39 different varieties in there and throw it in your freezer, you're gonna get ten years out of it. You know, like that's a great place to start. And Seth, I've argued this with some people, you'll never be able to buy and store enough food to last a lifetime. Never gonna happen.
Clayton Llewellyn:You know what I mean? I think it's important to have three to six months of food, depending on where you're at in the country. It's important to have three to six months of food and a seed kit. I mean that three or six months gets you through to where a garden will start growing. If it gets bad out there, like I said, I don't you're not gonna be fighting three fifty million Americans if it gets bad.
Clayton Llewellyn:They're pretty much gonna take care of themselves in the first few weeks, the first month. So get your food stuck aside that you can hunker down, hide away. Cook MREs, like we've got some great MREs now. Get some of them cooked up, get a garden started. Because I think in six to eight months, it's gonna be wide open and plenty of room and not have to worry about that kind of danger you're gonna have to in the first month or so.
Seth Holehouse:Yes. You mentioned that your MREs, and that's what, you know, meals ready to eat. That's what all these kits are right here. You know, these are, you know, similar to the army army MREs. They probably taste a lot better, though, than the army MREs based upon my experience eating those things.
Clayton Llewellyn:But those MREs are absolutely incredible. They're absolutely incredible. And I'm not saying that because I'm they're on my website. Those are absolutely incredible, man. The flavor, the taste, how they cook, everything you need is inside that bag to cook it and eat it.
Clayton Llewellyn:It just takes a 20 ounce bottle of water. Those things are I mean, if you're living in the city, those things are absolutely incredible. Look, you can throw one of them in your car. You know what I mean? If you're in earthquake prone areas, throw a couple of them in your car.
Clayton Llewellyn:Throw a couple of them in your car even if you're not in an earthquake area. Like I hear all the time about bad accidents on the interstate and people having to spend their night in their car, a few of them in your trunk, there's a meal for your kids to get you through the night. Like if you're going backpacking or hunting or anything like that, they're just that's the coolest thing I've seen in a long time. So it's definitely worth checking them out.
Seth Holehouse:Well, one thing I'll also say is that and I need to get some more of those actually. Got some of those, I definitely need to get more. Is that there's also for people that are overwhelmed, there's different ways to get storeable food. Right? Like, what I like about what you do is, so looking at your website again real quickly here.
Seth Holehouse:So say you wanna get a, you know, like a one week kit, for instance, or a three week kit or a six week kit. So these are great. It kind of removes the thinking. It's all there. But for people that are say ultra, ultra budget, I mean, what I a lot of what our stored food is, like a lot of ours, we have a bunch of freeze dried stuff just like this, we have a bunch of your buckets as part of it, but a large, I mean, a good chunk of our long, long term stock is, you know, we buy a lot from Azure, Azure market, and also, you know, Costco or Sam's Club, etc.
Seth Holehouse:But we might, you know, order a 50 pound or a 40 pound bag of just dried beans, or a 40 pound bag of wheat berries that I'll dump it in the two different five gallon buckets, throw in an oxygen packet, seal it up, and there you go. Like, that's a great budget way. However, there are certain there's limited things. We have a freeze dryer, we have a harvest right your freeze dryer, so we freeze dry food as well. But the one thing with with the buckets, like what I mentioned, is that great for storing raw calories, in my research, probably the cheapest calorie, you know, per, or, you know, kind of cheapest amount, like, you know, cost per calorie.
Seth Holehouse:But, you know, there's only so much you can do with a five gallon bucket of dried pinto beans, right? Like, it's a good base to have, but there's also you're not gonna have a lot of the accessories, also even the convenience of having pre thought out meals. Like, it's one thing. Okay. You have that you can then do big bean soups and whatnot.
Seth Holehouse:But the the preassembled buckets are good, though, for people that, a, don't have the time or, you know, in terms of, like, being able to it took me a lot of actually, I had to hire a friend to help us process, because we probably had at one point had probably a thousand pounds of dried food, you know, beans and wheat berries and Himalayan salt and all that. Actually, probably more actually, think probably about 2,000 pounds at one point that I had to then process and put it into various five gallon buckets and seal it and, you know, that whole process. Then we had even milk, I think we at one point we had about 500 pounds of dried milk, just organic, you know, powdered whole milk that we had to then take and put it into individual Mylar bags with oxygen packets and seal it up. And so, there's a lot of work involved in that. But I think getting, you know, all the food buckets have their place certainly in terms of just someone already thinking through and doing all that work ahead of time.
Clayton Llewellyn:Yeah. And, you know, Seth, there's a lot of places that and again, this is this really surprised me when we started getting into this business. Like I always pictured like as the the prepper, like living in the country on 20 acres, they maybe had a cow and some chickens and some pigs. And it turns out like that is not the case. The amount of food that we send to Downtown New York or Downtown LA or Chicago, or, you know, I mean, in neighborhoods like in the suburbs that maybe they're allowed to have a chicken.
Clayton Llewellyn:Like, it really shocked me who's aware of what's going on in the country that they may not have the room to store an extra 2,000 pounds of food. You know, so it's, that's the, that's where these buckets and those MRE meals and that stuff really come in handy that, you know, if you're in a confined space or a tight area or don't have the room for that, that's the buckets or their meals ready to eat, ready to go. They're not ready to eat. You have to heat them up and cook them, but you're not mixing ingredients. They're more, they're ready to use meal kind of a deal.
Clayton Llewellyn:Like I said, man, those those MREs are they're stinking awesome. They're awesome, man. Like, absolutely incredible. A 20 ounce bottle of water and you got a hot meal ready to go. So they're definitely worth checking out.
Seth Holehouse:And one thing I'd say too, is that for people that live in, like a city, because I, you know, I spent a lot of my adult life living in a 600 square foot apartment Manhattan, right? Obviously, my space was limited. Now, you know, we're out in the country, we're on about seven acres, and we've got, you know, chickens and goats and, you know, works always expand. We were just finishing building up all of our garden beds, we're gonna have, like, a really nice fenced in raised garden with irrigation system and building out and everything. But we know one thing for people living in, say, a small apartment, my recommendation for people like that, if they if they can afford it, is get a small storage unit, ideally temperature controlled storage locker, right?
Seth Holehouse:Depending where you maybe it's gonna be $60 a month or a hundred bucks a month. Like, you know, we've got one out maybe twenty minutes from here that I use for storage for long term type storage that it's a pretty big ones, maybe like 10 by 15 or something, and that's where we have a lot of our long term stuff. But for still living in the city, do that, throw in a month or two months worth of food in your storage unit. That way, if you have to bug out of the city, you can go and you've already got this locker that's set up there waiting for you with whatever supplies you need to then move on to your next destination. So it's, don't always think about limited, oh, well, my closet, I can only fit a shoe box of food in my closet.
Clayton Llewellyn:And Seth, again, this is, I hate to say this is where we've set heaven's harvest up to like, like a lot of our products are really good for those situations. You know what I mean? The water bricks, like you can fit them underneath your bed. You know I mean? They stack real nice.
Clayton Llewellyn:Use them as a coffee table. Like they're perfect for storing water. And like I said, I hate to keep going back to that MRE meal, but that MRE meal is absolutely perfect for people in a city. You know, you're not gonna survive for three months in New York City if things go bad. The thing is, I don't think you're gonna have to survive in New York City for three months.
Clayton Llewellyn:Because I think after about a month, sounds awful to say it, but I think after a month the competition's not gonna be very big. You know what I mean? It's gonna be a pretty weak competition. So if you can hunker away in your apartment and obviously there's no electricity, no way to heat water, those MRE bags have a way inside there to heat water. You can stick water bricks underneath your bed.
Clayton Llewellyn:I think you could easily fit enough in a 600 square foot apartment to last six to eight weeks till things calm down. In the same way if you're in the suburbs. You know what I mean? Like, you don't wanna be out running around if things get bad. You wanna be able to hunker down and take care of yourself.
Clayton Llewellyn:You know, and I hate to say it, like I've we worked with a survivalist once and he kept wanting to take me out into the woods and show me how to survive. I kept thinking, dude, if you take me out and if I take my wife into the woods, like I'm not gonna have to worry about surviving because she's gonna kill me. Like, I wanna know how to do this in my house with things in my house. I wanna sleep in my bed. You know what mean?
Clayton Llewellyn:I wanna shut the doors, pull the blinds, and let's figure out how to cook meals inside here and take care of ourselves inside the house. So again, a lot of the products on that website were designed for that purpose because very few of us have 50 acres out in the middle of nowhere where we're gonna be okay going out running around and, you know, farming and growing a garden and all that. So if we can get through the first three to six months, I think we're perfect.
Seth Holehouse:And one thing I'd also say just in terms of buying the seeds is that I would recommend anybody that, know, A, I think everyone should have a seed kit, even if you live in an apartment and you can't even grow it as a barter item, or just as a backup, have a seed kit, like you said, throw it in your freezer, or throw it some way, you know, someplace kind of cool, like the, you know, the back of your basement where it's kind of cool, it's obviously it's gonna be sealed for moisture. But the other thing is that if you haven't gardened, I'd say start now, like start this season right now, like we're coming up on Mother's Day, this is the time that you want to, you know, you start planting, figure it out, because if you've never if you've never grown anything, and you're thinking that you've got a bucket of seeds and that the first year you're gonna feed your whole family off of that, it's like you've got a pretty, harsh reality check coming your way.
Clayton Llewellyn:People ask me all the time how like I need help gardening and look, I'm not perfect at it. You know what I mean? I, There's a couple guys down the road here that have gardens. I think they're just showing off with, but I'm not perfect at it. But everybody always asks me like, how hard are these heirloom seeds?
Clayton Llewellyn:I went up to the garden the other day. We don't plant here before mother's day because there's always a chance of a frost, you know? So it's, I hate to say I, we put manure in the garden this year, didn't pay much attention to it. And I went over to it for the first time yesterday and I've got tomatoes that tall, the squash has come back. Like I haven't even put a seed in the ground yet.
Clayton Llewellyn:And these heirloom seeds are sprouting from last year. And I was gonna like, man, like just got rid of most of my work for the season. I'm good to go. But half the garden's already sprouted and, you know, six inches tall, the squash are, I mean, big and bushy, like this gardening thing's pretty easy.
Seth Holehouse:That's the thing. Is that like what you really what's that?
Clayton Llewellyn:That's the beauty of heirlooms. Just throw a tomato in there. It'll grow back next year.
Seth Holehouse:Well, that's the amazing thing is that for all the scarcity they've told us that we have, like you look at like how God designed things, it's like we're supposed to have abundance. You look at what a handful of seeds over a couple of seasons could eventually be feeding a whole village. If you know how to save your seeds and replant them and even look at a single ear of corn. Look at a single ear of corn that you can easily sit down and eat. There's probably what 500, know, 500 kernels on that piece of corn that you just chomp down.
Seth Holehouse:You know how to save that for next year. You've now got 500 corn plants, each of them giving you, you know, two, three, four, five years of corn. Like, so that's the thing is that there is abundance, it's just that they've restricted so much, They've created this world where we feel like that we're always in this fight or flight where there's so much lacking.
Clayton Llewellyn:Now they're trying to do the same thing with water. Most abundant resource on the planet. They're gonna tell us we're scarce on it. Like, do we control this?
Seth Holehouse:Exactly. Actually, we, I actually recently bought a couple of your water bottles. I'll pull those up really quickly. So one of these ones right here, these ultra presses. So walk us through it, because this is this is actually really impressive.
Seth Holehouse:Actually, a friend of mine that was gave one to him, and because he was traveling around the world. He was over and he was in Mexico, and he's in different places, and he found that he could just take use this water bottle and just take tap water from any country he was traveling in. Was I first time I went to Hong Kong, drank tap water like an idiot. Got like, like, very, very sick. First time in Ecuador, did the same thing.
Seth Holehouse:I didn't learn my lesson was like violently ill drinking tap water in Ecuador, which is not smart. Know. But walk us through how this works.
Clayton Llewellyn:And that's that's that water bottle right there. Actually a survivalist guy that the guy that drug me out into the woods insisted upon, we carry this bottle on our website. And it's one of the better things we've ever put on there. That's a really high end water bottle, but it's not, it's really high quality water bottle that right there could save your life. It will save your life.
Clayton Llewellyn:You can filter water out of a stream, out of a tap, out of your pool, out of anything you want. Basically for the picture you're looking at right there, you fill the thing up, you fill it up on the left, the green container gets filled about three quarters of the way up. There's a line in there to tell you how much to fill it. And then you take the part on the right, you push it down on top and it's a slow push, you know what I mean? Because when you're pushing it down, you're actually filtering the It's like
Seth Holehouse:a French press. You make French press coffee.
Clayton Llewellyn:Yep. Yep. And it'll fill the container up on the right and give you fresh, clean drinking water. I have taken those things whenever we as a family, we like to hike. And, you know, we'll hike in Yellowstone a few times a year.
Clayton Llewellyn:We'll hike the Appalachians. I no longer carry water bottles. I give each of the kids one of them and we're good to go for weeks on end. And again, filter, it's a good filter and it depends on the water you're filtering. You know what mean?
Clayton Llewellyn:You don't wanna go down to the mud puddle, kick the mud up and then try and filter it. Like let the dirt and dust and everything settle. The cleaner the water is you filter, the longer that filter will last. We get several hundred gallons of water out of one of those filters. But back to what we were saying in the beginning, the water is extremely important, extremely important.
Clayton Llewellyn:I mean, you can last You're only gonna last a couple days without fresh water. And if you drink bad water, you're gonna last less than that. So having that filter bottle is extremely important. Seth, this is what you're talking about. This isn't I know times are tight.
Clayton Llewellyn:I get that. I understand that. And don't go out and do all this tomorrow. But get you a water bottle. Next week, instead of going out to dinner, get you a seed kit.
Clayton Llewellyn:The following week, of going to the movies, start buying a couple of those MREs a little bit at a time. Stick them under your bed. This little bit of preparation could save your life, save your family's life. And then you won't realize it until you have this stuff, the peace of mind that it gives you. You know, and I first felt that in Florida when we got into this business, I had bought stuff stuff off of another radio host at one point.
Clayton Llewellyn:And when I got the food, I was like, man, this is garbage. Like they told me it was a year's worth of food. It ended up only being about three months. I thought I'm gonna, I'm gonna start having harvest. Like, let's be honest about what we're getting here.
Clayton Llewellyn:Because if you need this stuff, you're thinking you got a year and you've got three months, you're in trouble, you know? But like I started this business and took some of this stuff home and we had a hurricane coming through. And like, I remember sitting there, like you could look around in the traffic and see the panic in everybody's eyes. You could see like jugs of water, like in the backs of their cars, you could see plywood in the backs of their cars. And I remember I called my wife, tell her, hey, fill up the water bricks and throw them under the bed.
Clayton Llewellyn:And I was done. You know what I mean? Like there was no running around trying to find stuff, trying to find water, trying to buy milk and eggs. Like I already had it all. I was at the house.
Clayton Llewellyn:We're good to go. Like, let's worry about taking care of ourselves and not worry about the food or the water situation. So the peace of mind this will give you, I promise you it's well worth it. We pay for all kinds of stupid insurance every day. One insurance we don't have is food or water insurance.
Clayton Llewellyn:This is your food and water insurance. And the way we've got it packaged, you buy it one time, it's gonna last a long, it'll last twenty five years. You you pay for it once you're good for a long time.
Seth Holehouse:I'm glad that you mentioned insurance because that's how I look at this stuff too. That's how I mean to me, that's what silver, right? Like I always keep this on my desk is 10 ounce old bar of silver here. To me, is insurance. Like it's not an investment, it's not something that I'm playing the stock market or crypto, and you're looking for a high return.
Seth Holehouse:It's insurance. It is like if I can't log on to my bank app on my phone, and and or go to the ATM and withdraw money, or if the dollar it takes a, you know, a wheelbarrow full of dollars to go buy some chicken, you know, which happens in Venezuela, or areas in Africa when currencies collapse, like this, it's insurance, like that's the thing is like how you're right, how much money we're paying in towards health insurance, like a lot of things are paying to, you know, $12,000 a month in health insurance, right? Which okay, that's good, you know, just have like an emergency health insurance, right? It's very minimal, but that's what it is. Just it's insurance.
Seth Holehouse:So having food, having the ability to clean water, to purify it, to collect it, even rainwater, right? Collecting rainwater, great. Steps and ways of collecting wind, right? You should still filter it, right? Unless you like drinking aluminum and barium, whatever else you're spraying in the in the skies, unfortunately.
Seth Holehouse:Having a way of filtering it, having some of these backup meals, it's it's critical. So, Clayton, I'll pull up the website, one last time as we wrap up here. So, just heavensharvest.com. We do have a promo code. I think it's Seth, s e t h, is a promo code.
Seth Holehouse:They get 15% off the order, which that makes a big difference, right? If you're spending, you know, potentially a couple thousand dollars, it makes a big difference. And you also you accept gold and silver. I see that up here too. That's that's pretty Yep.
Clayton Llewellyn:And wait, Seth, you'd be everybody always asks me that, but you'd be shocked how many people call with gold and silver. And again, it's like, I'm smiling as you're talking about your silver you've got sitting there on your desk. Like that's the God's honest truth. I haven't bought this for, you know, to make money off of it or as an invest like I've bought it as security. I've bought it as insurance, you know, and that's what it's for.
Clayton Llewellyn:Like, I'm not not looking to make money off of it one day. I'm holding onto it in case, you know, my I don't I can't carry a wheelbarrow of dollars down to the grocery store.
Seth Holehouse:Exactly. Yeah. To me, this is generational wealth. Was telling my little four year old yesterday who loves treasure and she's, you know, looks digging up little things as well. You know, June, you get old enough, I'm gonna give you a bunch of treasure, I'll give you a bunch of silver and gold, and she looks at her little box of plastic little trinkets, and she goes, I don't need your treasure, I have my own treasure, dad.
Seth Holehouse:Okay, that's great. Well, Clayton, I gotta hop off and wrap up on an interview that's it's kind of popping right up after this one, but it's, it's it's always great talking with you. You've got such a great interview to you. Pulling up your website one last time, just heavensharvest.com. Again, we have a promo code Seth.
Seth Holehouse:You save people some money on there. And yeah, thank you for doing what you're doing. Thank you for, you know, really, really building a business that I believe in. Right? I've looked at a lot of different companies like this, and, a lot of them, you're right, you look at these survival food companies, it's like, that one's the cheapest per calorie, it's like, well, the calories coming from?
Seth Holehouse:It's like, oh, Kool Aid and pudding mix, it's like, you don't want that, right? So, yeah, Clayton, thank you very much.
Clayton Llewellyn:Anybody's got any questions, give us a call here, man. Everybody that works in here has been well trained on this stuff. They can tell you what you need, you know, where to start. Give us a call if you have any questions.
Seth Holehouse:Now, do you outsource your calls to like a call center in The Philippines?
Clayton Llewellyn:No, the call center is right over here in this building.
Seth Holehouse:There we go. And you're down in Georgia, right? So it's a good old American country down there.
Clayton Llewellyn:We're in North Georgia, right at the base of the Appalachian.
Seth Holehouse:There you go. Well, Clayton, was great speaking with you, man. I appreciate you giving us your time today.
Clayton Llewellyn:Thanks for having me.
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