US, China, Israel & the Battle for the New World Order w/ Boone Cutler

As the world edges closer to a global tipping point, the battle for control of the New World Order is intensifying. In this explosive episode, Boone Cutler joins me to break down the hidden alliances, power plays, and looming conflicts between the US, China, and Israel. Who’s really pulling the strings—and what’s coming next? Don’t miss this critical conversation.

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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.

Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.

After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.

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Seth Holehouse: 00:13

Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So right now, the whole world just seems crazy. I mean, you'd probably agree with me when I say that. There are just talks of war every other day.

Seth Holehouse: 00:31

There's financial ups and downs. There's discussion of there's, you know, food shortages, and egg prices are doing this, and it just seems like our country's been at war for a long time. I mean, I really believe it has been. Actually, think the whole world has been at war for a very long time. However, it's gotten increasingly complicated and difficult to understand.

Seth Holehouse: 00:53

And so joining me today is a guy named Boone Cutler. I'm not sure if you've seen him before or not, but so he's someone that was in the army working at within psychological operations and psychological warfare. So he understands the modern day warfare. He's also the coauthor of the book with general Flynn, five g w five fifth generation warfare, the citizens hand guide to fifth generation warfare. So he understands a lot about war.

Seth Holehouse: 01:19

And so my discussion with Boone today is just gonna be an open candid discussion about where are we currently at as a country? Who is the enemy of America? Is it Israel? Is it China? Is it Klaus Schwab?

Seth Holehouse: 01:32

Is it some combination? And so we're just gonna just start to understand and break down what the geopolitical landscape looks like, who we're up against, and what we can do to hopefully not die in some war, and hopefully, you know, be in a place where twenty years from now, we still have America, and then we still have our freedoms, and our constitution's still intact. So I hope this is a a helpful interview for you. It should be full of really good information. And if you enjoy it, then, you know, please share it.

Seth Holehouse: 02:02

Alright. So this is the interview. Please enjoy. Mister Boone Cutler, it's great to have you on. Thank you very much for joining us today.

Boone Cutler: 02:11

Well, thanks for having me, Seth. You got a great show. I hear a lot of people talking about it all the time, and it's an honor just to be here. Thank you very much.

Seth Holehouse: 02:17

Thank you. I appreciate that. So I'll just I'll let you give your own introduction, your background. I know you up until, you know, more recently as the guy that wrote five g w with general Flynn. That's how I first came across you, and I've followed you, you know, your work since.

Seth Holehouse: 02:34

But just give us a little bit of of your own background, especially, I think, with your expertise in in psychological warfare. So, anyway, yeah, I'll I'll let you do that.

Boone Cutler: 02:45

Yeah. I I think that's a that's a question a lot of people wanna know. Like, how did I get this? You know? How do how do I how did I get into this space?

Boone Cutler: 02:52

Because a lot of people talk about psychological operations, but they really don't have a background in it. And and I would say that, you know, the US army SIOP course really put me on a solid footing to understand, you know, geopolitics and how countries, work against other countries and with statecraft, you know, covert influence, covert covert covert operations. And and so that really that just really stimulated my mind to to study a lot more beyond, you know, the military training. And and I got plenty of experience doing doing the same type of thing in the military. I deployed to Iraq in 02/2005, '2 thousand and '6 and acted as the the psychological operations team sergeant in Sodder City.

Boone Cutler: 03:31

So we got a lot of time on the ground, really, you know, working these types of things and managing and and and shaping environments in a nonkinetic way. So that's that's my background, and, you know, that's how I got involved in all this stuff. And then several years ago, general Flynn and I started talking back and forth about the things that were happening in the country. And we decided, okay. Well, how how do we how do we change this?

Boone Cutler: 03:54

How do we fix this? And if we had been in the military at the time, it would be very it wouldn't be simple, but there would be an apparatus in place to be able to change things. And and in the army, call it TRADOC, training and doctrine. You know, you would put out manuals, and you would do training and kinda get everybody, you know, up to speed on what's happening. And so we decided we need to become TRADOC.

Boone Cutler: 04:16

We need to become that that centerpiece where people can go to understand what's happening in the fifth generation of war. And and that's how the that's how that all got started. So, so now we, know, we go around the country. We talk about these things. We put out the books.

Boone Cutler: 04:33

We put out three books so far in the series. The Citizen's Guide to Fifth Generation Warfare is a series of books, and and they're military style manuals written written for civilians, written for the civilian populace. At the end of each chapter, there's a there's a question section to kinda keep you oriented to the book as you go through them. And this is this is what we decided to do. And so far, I can tell you I just, I mean, if you if you like the if you like how Grock works, you know, last week, I typed in the Grock, you know, who has done the most in The United States and produced the most material to educate the public on fifth generation warfare, and even Grock agrees.

Boone Cutler: 05:10

You know? General Flynn and I have have done more in The United States to educate the populace on their current status of war and how everybody is affected, you know, the the the he the populace, the human terrain, and how that's affected. So, you know, we kinda got a little bit of a a high five from Grock, and Grock says, you know, you guys are the guys that have done more work in The United States. And and to be honest with you, that that's probably extended worldwide because our books are sold in other countries and, you know, it's been translated into Spanish. So that's that's what we do.

Boone Cutler: 05:42

And and so far, see these, you know, these measures of effectiveness that that one in book sales, two, the amount of people that ask us questions, me being on your show and you wanting to know more about it, all these are measures of effectiveness. And, also, the the accumulative amount of information that has gone out in the ether has kind of been curated and come back, and and even AI systems are saying that, you know, the guys that have have done more on this subject than anybody else.

Seth Holehouse: 06:13

Which which I thank you for that because it's it's really important. And I think that that's actually, one of the the keys of this war that we're in right now is that I think a lot of Americans, a, don't know that we're at war, or b Right. If they have a sense of it, they have no idea who it's with. And and this is so so I wanna kinda just throw a bunch of different things out there as I've tried to understand this is that, you know, one of the questions that's so common is, okay. Well, who who's the enemy?

Seth Holehouse: 06:45

Right? Is it a country? Is it a particular government? Is it the CCP? Is it is it a a globalist organization like the WEF or the WHO?

Seth Holehouse: 06:55

Or are they pawns for other people? And, you know, one thing that I've come to is that it's not black and white, that there are multiple there's multiple groups or multiple cabals that you could say that are, you know, kinda like like, you know, mob bosses or, you know, mafia families. Right? They work together sometimes, but they also, you know, kill each other when needed. They use each other to to achieve their goals.

Seth Holehouse: 07:21

It kinda reminds me a lot of three kingdoms. I've studied a lot of, you know, China's history and China's, you know, kind of war history and everything, and it's similar to, you know, the that there's this this vying, and there's this using and teaming up to take out the other person, etcetera. And so I I found that in monitoring the public discourse about the enemies of America that it it shifts. Right? And maybe for this six month period, everyone's talking about Russia.

Seth Holehouse: 07:48

Then everyone's talking about the CCP. Then everyone's talking about Israel. Right? And and so in your opinion, and and obviously, your opinion is coming with a lot of research, everything behind it, who do you see as the biggest enemy of The United States? Like, who if if someone came to you and said, look, what is the one entity, right, that I should be the most concerned about, you know, changing my way of life in America and and and destroying the freedoms that I cherish?

Seth Holehouse: 08:23

Who would who who would that be in your opinion?

Boone Cutler: 08:26

Here's how I would answer that question, just to kinda get everybody oriented to the things that are happening geopolitically. You know, a lot of people can still relate to the Cold War that we had with Soviet Union, okay, where the Soviet Union was going out and co opting different different countries, different, governments, different ideologies, and they were trying to consume more than The United States. And The United States was going out there, and we had these proxy wars. We had this constant battle, this Cold War battle with with Russia. Well, now and that was so that was communism versus capitalism.

Boone Cutler: 08:58

Okay. Right? That's that's kinda where that funneled down to. This is how people would would remember it and recognize it. I would say take that same exact paradigm except instead of it being communism versus capitalism, now you have globalism, which is communism, versus right wing populism.

Boone Cutler: 09:19

Okay? And if you look around the world, there's always different countries that are becoming right wing populist. There's also left wing populist, but the the the the growing, ideology of right wing populism, you know, the nation is first and and independence and all these things. These things are growing around the world. Well, at the same time, have and that's that's primarily, you know, The United States.

Boone Cutler: 09:42

You know? That's that's our team right there, the right wing populace. That's our team. That's what you saw with Donald Trump. He's a right wing populace.

Boone Cutler: 09:50

And then on the other side of that, you've got the globalist. Now who's on the globalist team? At the very, very top of that tier is China because they know they have to move everybody away from that sense of freedom, that sense of rule of law. You know, all the things that make a country great, you know, where where the people have a say and it's autocratic, and it it's not tyrannical. It's not just one supreme leader, and and everybody kinda has to fall in line.

Boone Cutler: 10:19

You know? There is a rule of law. China has to degrade that. They have to they have to get rid of it. The biggest threat to the to China is the fact that The United States even exists.

Boone Cutler: 10:30

So long as The United States even exists, it is a threat to China because their people also want to be free. So if they can say that they have destroyed The United States, it makes them a more secure country for the CCP, not for everybody else, just for the CCP. So we've got this cold war thing that's happening, and it's been very much for those who have who have read unrestricted warfare, it's basically put up a well, they say it was put up by the PLA in 1999, but I got the I got the scoop on what that really was all about. It was two colonels sitting in a room during a missile crisis with Taiwan, and they came up with this idea of unrestricted warfare. And they wrote it down, and they published it.

Boone Cutler: 11:13

And then when it first went out to yep. That's it right there. When it first went out and people started looking at it, they did, like everybody else, pocket a book. They were doing media. And it was when they did the media, and I I have, someone who's advised on the the next book that general Flynn and I are writing.

Boone Cutler: 11:33

One of the advisers to that book told me this story because he had contact with the guy who did the interview with the authors of unrestricted warfare in China. He said PLA didn't have anything to do with it. It was just two two colonels who just decided they were gonna write it and they were gonna sell a book. And then it was adopted by the CCP. It was adopted by the PLA.

Boone Cutler: 11:54

It was never commissioned by them. So that's another indicator of how, you know, China works. And this is and this is the game. So in unrestricted warfare, you're gonna see things like economic warfare. You're gonna see things like the war of narratives.

Boone Cutler: 12:08

You're gonna see things, where they're where they're dominating terrain and taking over different countries. You know, the the amount of psychological operations throughout the entire Belt and Road initiative is is that. That is truly China's way to to win without firing a shot, and that's what unrestricted warfare is all about, how to win without firing a shot. So they have these campaigns and they co op governments and they compromise officials, in various ways. You know?

Boone Cutler: 12:36

It could be monetarily. It could be ideologically. It could be through some sort of extortion. They extort the different companies, multi multinational corporations that also have a lot of influence in government. So they extort the corporations, who extort the government, who basically extorts you.

Boone Cutler: 12:55

So that's their game. They wanna influence the influencers that influence you, and they do it on many levels. If we're talking about TikTok, they do it with young people that are pushing a message. They throw them a huge this is the way it was happening. They would throw them a huge audience and they would define, okay, who who are we going to support?

Boone Cutler: 13:13

Who are we gonna elevate? Who are gonna amplify? And what they would amplify is someone who is young, someone who is good looking, and they have a talent people will watch. So just based upon that, they would flood them with an audience, which would give them an income. And now you got some 16 year old kid who knows how to play the gazoo and doesn't know anything about politics, and they they start pushing stuff in their feed that they repeat out to their audience.

Boone Cutler: 13:36

And now they've co opted that audience through that influencer who doesn't really even know what they're doing. And in those environments, those young people, they're making, you know, big dollars now. They're not really listening to mom and dad. They're not really paying attention to anything. They're just worried about building that audience.

Boone Cutler: 13:53

And now they become very protective of that platform because they're making money and they have a sense of power behind all of their efforts. So in all these different ways, the CCP corrupts the minds of others in order to basically tear down that country so they can prepare it for revolution.

Seth Holehouse: 14:14

And it's just like taking this 10 or a hundred thousand foot view and looking at, you know, what's happening right now geopolitically. It's interesting because I do think that a lot of people seem to be focusing a lot less on China. And I've been seeing and there's been a lot more focus, especially within the right on Israel. And we and I don't wanna get into, the the the bigger picture of Israel and the history of Israel and different roles. And I've got my own, you know, kind of huge list of issues I have with Israel's level of influence over our own government and APAC and, you know, all these kinds of things.

Seth Holehouse: 14:49

But I'm trying to look at the bigger picture. I've wondered, okay, why is it that Trump's so much of Trump's entire cabinet is so pro Israel. Right? And and I'm not sure where you stand in Israel, and, you know, you know, I I mean, I have kind of come out and say it. It it doesn't really matter.

Seth Holehouse: 15:03

Right? It's kind of the point that I'm making here is that I've I've oftentimes thought, I wonder if Trump is strategically making these alliances because he it's kind of three kingdoms. Right? Like, he has to align ours on The United States with a kingdom that will help him bring down the other third kingdom, right, which you could say is China. And so because I've wondered, because I when I look at if you suffer from daily pain, please listen closely.

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Seth Holehouse: 17:25

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Seth Holehouse: 17:43

And it's like, I obviously, there's concern there. Like, the you know, America First means America First. However, like, if you look at China, like, their end goal is is different. Like, I I've never looked at Israel and thought, well, their their goal is to colonize America. May maybe their goal is to keep us under their under their thumb and be able to have our military to kind of fight fight their battles in The Middle East and the other things like that.

Seth Holehouse: 18:06

But you look at China, and it's a whole different thing, actually. So I wanna bring up quickly. I'm sure if you've seen this, but the the secret speech of general chi Chirhao Tian. Have you seen this before?

Boone Cutler: 18:18

I don't know if I have or not. I can't see it in front of me because of where my camera is. But let me let me tie in a couple things that you said that Yeah. Please do.

Seth Holehouse: 18:25

And I'll

Boone Cutler: 18:25

think it's worth I think it's I think it's worthy of of clarification. And what you said exact what is exactly right. You got three kingdoms. Two need to gang up on the one, and then the then they each have add each other. You know?

Boone Cutler: 18:37

And that's that's that's the thing. People ask me, you know, why can't we all just get along? Well, that's actually a really simple answer. The answer is because we're primates. Okay?

Boone Cutler: 18:46

And there's a pecking order among primates. And so long as we're primates, there will always be war. There will always be buying for that for that top tier. But when it comes to to Israel, let's look at Israel for a minute. Now I know a lot of people like to get really that there's a lot of fervor about, you know, their intentions and where they came from and what they really have a right to and blah blah.

Boone Cutler: 19:08

Okay. Okay. That's great. And I'm not taking anything about that away from you because I don't even wanna get into the argument. But what I do wanna focus on is strategic allies.

Boone Cutler: 19:18

And when you're talking about that three kingdoms, you're really talking about strategic allies. Now what has Israel done? What have they done for us lately? Here's what they've done for us. Our enemy that is aligned with China is Iran.

Boone Cutler: 19:31

Okay? You've got Iran. You got North Korea. You got Russia, and then you've got China. Those are the that's the the overt alignment.

Boone Cutler: 19:38

Now there's other alignments of countries that have been compromised by the CCP. Like, you got France. You got Germany. You've got different countries different countries in in in in Latin America, different countries across Africa. They've really been compromised.

Boone Cutler: 19:50

Canada. Canada, definitely. They've really been co opt and compromised on several levels. Now I just brought up a couple European countries in there. Those are countries that are part of the a part of NATO.

Boone Cutler: 20:03

So let's let's look at two things at the same time. One, what did Trump do with NATO? He said, you guys are gonna have to handle Ukraine on your own because we got other things to do. And what are the other things to do? China.

Boone Cutler: 20:16

And he knows based upon his intelligence that there are NATO countries that are so far deep and and and corrupted and compromised by China that the chances of NATO actually helping us in a fight against China might not be what we want it to be. So we can't rely on them. Well, if we can't rely on them, we've got to pull back our assets and resources, and we've got to focus on our primary threat. Now let's go to Israel. Israel has done a couple of really advantageous things for The United States.

Boone Cutler: 20:49

One, they decimated Hamas and Hezbollah, okay, which are assets of Iran. So they've weakened Iran, which is our enemy. So they have weakened our enemy's assets to be used that could be used against us, could be used in an area. And and this this there's a lot here that has to do with rare earth minerals and and things that we need in order to fight a an extended war like with China. So the fact that Israel, they I put them in the context of they are our strategic ally, and they are fighting our enemies for us.

Boone Cutler: 21:22

We haven't lost it. We haven't lost. We haven't seen troops happen to go over there and and fight the fight fight Hamas and Hezbollah and and American troops losing their lives. That hasn't happened. Okay?

Boone Cutler: 21:33

That hasn't happened. Maybe it has on some levels in in a in a small degree that in in places that we don't really understand. But as far as the massive operations, you haven't seen US deployments. You haven't seen American war fighters losing their lives in Israel for Israel. So Israel is taking care of our enemy by by creating this this conflict, by having this conflict with Iran and with their assets.

Boone Cutler: 22:02

So when we talk about why Israel? Okay. This has nothing to do with anything religious. This has nothing to do with a history of blah blah blah and blah blah blah. This has to do with their strategic ally in the region, and we have to have these strategic allies to go after our adversaries.

Boone Cutler: 22:20

So they're destabilizing, helping destabilize Iran. So they so Iran doesn't have those assets to use against us as we're fighting China. This is a big deal. So now I've highlighted two different things for you that that people, that I look at in a certain way that a lot of people don't look at. And that is we have withdrawn a lot of our efforts that we've done with with NATO.

Boone Cutler: 22:43

We're on our own there. You brought up Canada. Canada, very compromised. They're just on on our north. So now you you see things going on there.

Boone Cutler: 22:51

The and and what I'm not talking about the Canadian people, the Canadian people are amazing. Love them. I'm talking about how the governments are corrupted. We're talking about governments because people don't start wars and make wars. Okay?

Boone Cutler: 23:01

Governments and military start wars and make wars. The people are just you know, they're just involved because they're they live there. So let's keep all that context in in, you know, where it should be. So we've got Israel doing our work or doing work that benefits us in The Middle East. We've got NATO.

Boone Cutler: 23:22

We know we can't really rely on in order to fight China wherever we need to fight them. So we pull our resources so we can be stronger. Another good reason have other strategic allies. So we need to get them we need to get them wherever we can find them and and build that effort. So I kinda wanted to give this this geopolitical overview from the from the context of pragmatism, not religion, not, you know, the the different things that people like to pull in, when they when they and they do it only because that's their frame of reference.

Boone Cutler: 23:56

That's what they know. And they're not bad. They're not doing anything wrong. It's just that's their frame of reference. And so what I'm asking is for people to see that there is another frame of reference and giving explanation for the why things are happening the way that they are.

Boone Cutler: 24:10

Sorry that it takes so long.

Seth Holehouse: 24:11

No. No. That's it's very helpful. It is very helpful. So I'll I'll pull up this this speech because this will give us some good context.

Seth Holehouse: 24:18

So I'll read a little bit, I understand you you can't see this. I'll I'll I'll kind of be your your eyes for you. So this is a speech called the the the secret speech of general Chirhaojian. And so it says, in 02/2005, the Epoch Times acquired a secret speech given by defense minister Chir Haochen to high level communist party cadres sometime before his retirement in 02/2003. Details given in Scher's speech coincide with previously unpublished defector testimony on Sino Russian military plans.

Seth Holehouse: 24:53

So this is a speech that was that was given. It was private. It got leaked. The Epoch Times, which is a common place that things are trying to get leaked to, published the speech. Now this is I'm not sure if you're familiar with Jeff Nyquist or JR Nyquist.

Seth Holehouse: 25:10

He has a speech published on his blog, but it's it's a it's one of the most profound speeches in understanding the mentality of the Chinese military leadership. And and I'll I'll send you a link to it, because I'm sure if you haven't read it, you'll you'll be fascinated by it. There's one thing I wanna hone in on this. We're talking about, basically, the speech he's highlighting, like, the historical like, the the role of the Chinese race, and where the Germans failed, and and how the Chinese really they they they're gonna be the the supreme rulers, basically. They've got got five thousand years of history, and there's a lot of good reasons to believe that the Chinese are a very special race.

Seth Holehouse: 25:47

Right? You look at the history of their country. I mean, it's it's a profound country and culture. But what but what he says in this speech, he talks about how, basically, they need to colonize America. And not just America, but there's other other regions they need to colonize to feed their people, for, obviously, for military and strategic, reasons.

Seth Holehouse: 26:09

But that goes into the fact that, like, because of pollution and grand solar minimum and different things happening, they their country alone cannot produce what the needs of their population are, and so they need to colonize. And so but which also aligns with the the hundred year march. Right? You know, Mao's original goal by by 2049. CCP basically runs the new world order as as kind of far as I've kind of figured it, you know, it to be.

Seth Holehouse: 26:37

But one thing I wanna highlight in this speech, I wanna read this a couple paragraphs here because they're talking about why they need to to secure land, why they need to colonize America. So he says, during wartime, we were used to seeing dead people. Blood and flesh were flying everywhere. Corpses were lying in heaps on the fields, and blood ran like rivers. We saw it all.

Seth Holehouse: 27:01

On the battlefields, everyone's eyes turned red with killing because it was a life and death struggle, and only the brave would survive. It is indeed brutal to kill one or 200,000,000 Americans, but that is the only path that will secure a Chinese century in which the CCP leads the world. We as revolutionary human humanitarians do not want deaths, but if history confronts us with a choice between deaths of Chinese and those of Americans, we'd have to pick the latter. For or as for us, it is more important to safeguard the lives of the Chinese people in the life of our party. That is because after all, we are Chinese and members of the CCP.

Seth Holehouse: 27:45

Since the day we joined the CCP, the party life has always been, the party life has always been above all else. History will prove that we made the right choice. So that's the and there's other areas too where he talks about this, and how basically they need to use some sort of biological weapon to kill a couple hundred million Americans, so they can then move in kinetically, and seize the land. He talks specifically about how they can't use nuclear. They can't use other advanced weaponry because they can't destroy the soil.

Seth Holehouse: 28:16

And so they would need to use some sort of biological weapon to wipe out a couple hundred million Americans taking then come in and colonize. And, like, to me, I I can't think of any other nation on Earth that has a plan like that. Right? There's other nations that they, you know, they they wanna slowly destroy America, they wanna have influence of America. But, like, this is an open plan to say, you know what?

Seth Holehouse: 28:39

We wanna just take America for our own. So, anyway, I'll I'll I'll let you, respond to that.

Boone Cutler: 28:45

No. You're right. You're you're talking about extermination. I mean, no different than you would spray raid on a on a bunch of ants. You know?

Boone Cutler: 28:51

They they would do the same if they could. And this you know, people don't know a lot of people don't know that there is a food shortage in China. It's because they lack water, and so they have to bring their food in from other places. They bring it in from The United States. They bring it in from Brazil.

Boone Cutler: 29:05

This is this is a thing for them. So that's also a weakness because there's food scarcity. Like, right now, they're very worried about food scarcity. Why would they worry about food scarcity? Because that causes uprisings.

Boone Cutler: 29:16

That causes uprisings within their own country. Right now, the people aren't getting paid either. They've been starting fires. You know? They've been start having riots and starting, you know, starting businesses on fire in China.

Boone Cutler: 29:26

People don't know this. It's not in the mainstream news, but it's a fact. So they've been starting fires. There's a food scarcity issue, which creates a susceptibility for some sort of, you know, asymmetrical warfare within China, the unconventional warfare that these things happen, but they have to have certain conditions to really thrive. And these are some of the conditions.

Boone Cutler: 29:49

Now when you talk about them exterminating Americans, they have no problem doing they have no problem exterminating their own people. People don't don't know. Like, Mao, he was a he was a was a proponent of atomic warfare and nuclear warfare. He was like, I can lose a million people and not feel it. Can you?

Boone Cutler: 30:06

You know? I mean, this they they don't care about human life. They care about, you know, the the party being in charge and and the forever party of the CCP and and some and whoever sits at the top of that is at the top of that pecking order. Once again, we're back to primates. So when when I read things like that, and I've read several things like that, and and there's something that just came out a few couple weeks ago.

Boone Cutler: 30:29

It was another leaked document about what's happening in China right now. And Xi had put out through all the poll up bureau members and all the way down to, like, what they refer to as their county level. And they're talking about food rationing. They're talking about, you know, preparing for war. They're talking about preparing information operation campaigns that have to do with supporting a nuclear strategy against The United States.

Boone Cutler: 30:53

And I don't think there's too many things that are going to get the American people fired up more than that. They're also talking about how they have to take Taiwan, you know, as as all this happens because geographically, they have to have that. They also have to have all those countries that are in the Gulf Of Tonkin, the South China Sea. We gotta have Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand. So they're they're really working on co opting that because that secures their region.

Boone Cutler: 31:15

Just like we need to make sure China or Canada does what they need to do to protect their borders, they're also doing what they need to do to make sure sure those areas that that surround the South China Sea and the Gulf Of Tonkin are also secured, so they are secured. And those those minerals, those rare earth minerals in those areas are are secured for them. Right now, China is controlling about 90% of the rare earth metals. If we went to war with China today, we would run out of material before they do, and we don't have, you know, those those cursory elements to make the things we need to make. So this is a big deal.

Boone Cutler: 31:50

And and ultimately, we this is going to go bigger. Xi wants to push this to a kinetic a kinetic level. I think he has a lot of fears about like, were talking about this extermination. I think he has a lot of fears about, you know, being charged with crimes against humanity for what's happened with COVID, for and then later on the vaxx, which now we get these corporations that jumped in on the whole thing and said, hey. I know what to do with the bioweapon.

Boone Cutler: 32:15

We'll we'll we'll make you use it. So all these things are gonna come to fruition. These things are gonna boil to the top. And I I think what's important that we remember as Americans is there will be a response. There will be diversions.

Boone Cutler: 32:30

There will be deceptions that happen as these things bubble to the top. But it comes down to identity. Do you know who you are, and do you know what your country is all about? And if you know who you are and you know what your country is all about, that's where you kind of rest yourself on the bedrock of knowing so you're not swayed by these these psychological operations, information campaigns. You're not swayed by that.

Boone Cutler: 32:55

Know who you are. Know who your family is. Build your family. Be close with your family. Make sure you are self sufficient with food, with water, all the things that would make you susceptible if you ran out of it.

Boone Cutler: 33:08

You wanna make sure you have enough plentifulness for yourself as we go through these pains to make sure you are not susceptible to the things that they are going to do. So become self reliant. Bring your family closer to you. Build those relationships because you're going to need each other. Remember who you are and remember what your country is all about because those beliefs and those ideologies will absolutely 100% be challenged as we go through this.

Seth Holehouse: 33:35

And so what's interesting is that I think there's a lot of people, especially this this populist right movement. I think they they got Trump elected, and that is really, I think, moving the election needles around the world. Right? I think now that Trump is back in, I I my sense is a lot of people have put their feet up. Like, okay.

Seth Holehouse: 33:57

We got our we got our guy in. Like, nothing's gonna happen to America. We're in and and that's, to me, that's very concerning because if if you look at when is the right time to strike an enemy, it's what when they least are prepared for it. Right? And when they're most relaxed and, you know, it's it's like the the the movies you see of the Vikings that have a successful day, and they're all, you know, like, high on their their battle win, and they they have a wild thrashing party.

Seth Holehouse: 34:23

And at 4AM when they're all drunk and passed out, then the enemy comes in and they slit their throats. Right? Because it's like, oh, yeah. They they thought they won, and that was what made them lose. And so you know, looking at our our current situation as America, right now, we see there's there's some some posturing, a lot of trade war posturing happening with Trump and Xi.

Seth Holehouse: 34:45

But within the next couple of years, I mean, do you think that do you think that China or the the CCP will really step up? I mean, could you see them doing anything kinetic? I mean, because it's crazy because even in the past couple of years, I've mentioned before, we should be concerned about a kinetic war with China. And I've seen so many people saying, you're an idiot for thinking that. You're a neocon.

Seth Holehouse: 35:09

There's no way China's gonna attack us. We've got more guns than any other country combined and and all this this talk, and it's like, well, there's ways around that. Right? Have you seen these drones? Right?

Seth Holehouse: 35:21

So, I mean, do you see do you see China as a a more immediate, you know, a clear and present danger?

Boone Cutler: 35:31

It is. It is a clear and present present danger with China, and and Americans would really, really need to focus on geopolitical relationships to see who's aligning with who. Like like, right now, India is the bell of the ball. You know? Everybody needs India.

Boone Cutler: 35:47

Everybody wants India. And and that that's that's a big thing. You know? These are indicators that you'll see, you know, that people look for to determine whether or not India is gonna fall on our side or the or the side of or the side of China. And right now, they're trying to split that line so they can get everything they can get from from all sides before they have to make a decision, which is, you know, I mean, that's that that Machiavellian mind is basically the political mind.

Boone Cutler: 36:13

So these things you're going to continue to see, but I can't stress enough that the warfare that you will initially see coming from China is not going to be from the barrel of a gun. It's going to be through your media, through your judges. I mean, look what's happening with these judges. And if you look who's behind those judges and what party that they were aligned with and, you know, these are big deals because the real fight is going to be in the political warfare sphere, and that's going to be influenced by information operations, sensitive activities, psychological operations. That's gonna be influenced by that.

Boone Cutler: 36:52

And that's really gonna be where their, quote, unquote, first strike capabilities are gonna are gonna come from. It's gonna become in the cognitive battlespace, not the physical battlespace. And you can probably expect that they're gonna create disruption within the country. Because like you were saying, you know, we we got all these guns. We can't you know, they won't fight us.

Boone Cutler: 37:12

Well, how do you deal with that? You you make Americans fight Americans. Right? And then through the political and and through the legal apparatus, then you gotta take away all the guns because there's infighting in America. Now you've made us susceptible to foreign powers.

Boone Cutler: 37:26

These are all shaping operations that happen in order to disarm a country. We need to be aware of all these things. Be very, very focused on the political warfare that happens in The United States. This includes judges, especially now. Are the hail marys that they're throwing with judges.

Boone Cutler: 37:46

So we need to be aware of these things. Truthfully, we get stuck in our feeds, whatever we're watching, whatever pops up in front of us. And that can become a very dangerous thing because once you're in that bubble, you will consume whatever information that is in that bubble and that shapes you, that shapes the way you think and feel. You know, your your neighbor is most likely not your enemy. And if they don't act like you and talk like you and believe like you, well, they're probably in another bubble, but they're still probably good people.

Boone Cutler: 38:20

They're probably not CCP subversives or anything like that. They're probably good people. They're in a different bubble, and they and they've probably gotten there in a very innocent way, but they've got their beliefs. So don't hate your neighbor. You know?

Boone Cutler: 38:36

We don't need to start having, you know, massive infighting within The United States. That's all a disruption. That's all distraction. That's all something that's gonna lead to our demise. We have to stay unified.

Boone Cutler: 38:45

That comes through self reliance and and, honestly, kindness to each other because there is a foreign adversary out there that's going to try and manipulate us to hurt each other, and watch the political warfare because that's where the real game is.

Seth Holehouse: 39:00

And so looking at this through the lens of psychological warfare, right, and psychological operations, Look, they taking the American people as the target for these psychological operations. Obviously, our own government has done plenty to us, and it's something that we have people are not realizing. It's like, oh, wow. Look. Our government had its hands in all kinds of bad things.

Seth Holehouse: 39:26

Right? Whether it was, you know, JFK assassination or nine eleven or and so there's a lot of people I've I've found that they they fall into this. I've mentioned, you know, China, and they'll say, I don't wanna hear about China. Our government is is already enough of of an enemy. It's like, well

Boone Cutler: 39:41

And that's exactly what they want you to do.

Seth Holehouse: 39:43

Exactly what

Boone Cutler: 39:44

also Yeah. Be they want you they want to remove your confidence in your own government because then you become easier to over throw, and you've lost the national will to defend your country. They want to reduce our national will to defend the country. So look for any type of indicator that has to do with removing national will because that is a campaign that is coming from a foreign adversary.

Seth Holehouse: 40:09

That's a really good point, because I have since then, it's also it's it's hard because a lot of these campaigns have a lot of truth in them. It's like, yes. But even tracing back the origins of of COVID, and, you know, it's like, oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, this is you know, had gain of function research in in our own universities here, and that was, you know, Ralph Barrack, and it's it's like, yeah, a lot of it does come back to our own government.

Seth Holehouse: 40:35

However, the reality is is that you and I can sit here in America and have this conversation. I can sit here and say, Trump is a dictator. Trump is a savior. It doesn't matter what I you know, I can say anything I want to about our politicians, and I'm not gonna have some black van show up at my house and throw a bag over my head and go put me in some black jail somewhere. I mean, the reality is is that in America, either we're fighting for our rights, we still have safety.

Seth Holehouse: 41:01

We still have food to eat. We can still have these conversations. Obviously, there's a lot that is less than ideal, but I I think that what they've done though is they have created these campaigns of of having people just completely, you know, throw the baby out the bathwater and saying that our entire government's corrupted, and, and and it's just it's absolutely worthless, and they have wiped

Boone Cutler: 41:22

We have to do we have to do something that I don't know of an instance where it's ever happened. Okay? It could have, but I don't know of one. We have to hold our nation's identity, root out the corruption that is that is very centric to all the things you're talking about. Okay?

Boone Cutler: 41:44

That has to be cut out. At the same time, we as a people have to maintain our national will to defend our country from foreign adversaries. So we've gotta clean up our house at the same time we're defending it from someone trying to take it over. I don't know when this has ever been accomplished in the history of the world, but this is where we're sitting. And this is what we have to accomplish if we want to survive as a nation.

Boone Cutler: 42:10

We have to correct our own government, get rid of who those who have been compromised, get rid of of the corruption, which leads to a political sphere on some level that breaks down our country, make certain people rich that influence information and influence, you know, operations in other areas. That's all gotta be cut off. It's all gotta be cleaned up. We have to modernize our country. Have to modernize all the processes within our agencies.

Boone Cutler: 42:35

Maybe combine some agencies, shrink them, make it more controllable. They've everything's gone rogue. Gotta pull it back in. At the same time, we've gotta care enough about this country to protect it from foreign adversaries. This is not going to be easy.

Boone Cutler: 42:51

It's not gonna be easy, but the first step is understanding your situation, understanding your operational environment. This is our operational environment. It's up to every single American to be able to know what that is and what the adversary will look like when they come for us.

Seth Holehouse: 43:06

And so, obviously, we we just touched on one of them, but looking at this through the lens of psychological operations and and psychological warfare, what what are the what would you say are some of the key strategies of the CCP? And we can go even beyond psychological too looking at this, you know, unrestricted warfare, unconventional warfare. What are some of this if someone says, oh, no. Come on, Boone. We're not at war with China.

Seth Holehouse: 43:31

Like, come on, man. Where's where's your tinfoil hat? What are some of things that you would

Boone Cutler: 43:35

tell We're not we're not at war with China. We're at war with the CCP. You know? And that's that's important to to draw that distinction because by and large, the people of China don't want CCP either.

Seth Holehouse: 43:45

Right.

Boone Cutler: 43:46

Yeah. And the diaspora living abroad will do just about anything and everything to help, you know, defeat the CCP if they're properly, you know, supported, you know, morally, monetarily. They need to be supported, and that that's that's one thing we can do a lot better. But what things are you gonna look for? You're gonna look for the information warfare.

Boone Cutler: 44:04

It's I'm telling you, it's probably gonna go pretty huge on how dastardly scary China is gonna be with nukes. Okay? Russia's probably gonna get involved. You know? It's a very interesting timing.

Boone Cutler: 44:16

All of a sudden, you know, you know, since the beginning of the Russia's war with Ukraine, they've been fighting tooth and nail. You know? They've got the Donbass. They they've already secured that. They've they've pushed forward to Kyiv.

Boone Cutler: 44:29

And now of a sudden, Russia says, you guys can have the Donbass back. We'll leave. We'll have a ceasefire. They can have it all. It's too convenient.

Boone Cutler: 44:40

It's too convenient. What I see is Putin is pulling everything back because he's about the masses efforts with China. And a lot of people say, no. Putin doesn't wanna be with China. Yeah.

Boone Cutler: 44:52

Yeah. I get that. I get that. And I would love to believe the same thing, but, you know, China exists as an imperialistic extension of the former Soviet Union. They've got long ties.

Boone Cutler: 45:03

They've they've been in this game together for a long time, and they're very interconnected. They share a border. I mean, there's a lot of reasons why

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Boone Cutler: 46:35

Why they're not why brush is not gonna align with us. And I know that hurts people's feelings, and I know they don't wanna believe it. And why do they they wanna believe it? Because Putin has done a fantastic job with his with his psychological operations in The United States. I mean, he really yeah.

Boone Cutler: 46:49

He's done a fantastic job. But and I, you know, I respect the technique. I don't necessarily respect the man doing the technique, but I respect the technique. All these things are happening right now, these major geopolitical shifts. And so we have got to really tighten up.

Boone Cutler: 47:06

We have to be self reliant so we're not susceptible. We have to pull our families in because they're going to split up families. So you're asking what type of psychological operations you're going to see. More of the same. You're going to see groups, the isms and the iss try and rise up to provoke another side to create internal conflict.

Boone Cutler: 47:24

You're going to see the attack of our children through online platforms to make them no longer want to respect their parents. You're gonna see more of the or they're gonna try and reduce your medical freedom, bill of rights, border security, parental rights. All of these things are all part of that game because it breaks down the fabric of a nation. And once the fabric of a nation is broken, losing faith in your in your institutions of government. Once all this fabric is broken down, it becomes very easy to step in and fill the void.

Boone Cutler: 48:01

So we've got to have confidence in the people that are are running the government that they're gonna do the right thing even though they might be slow and they might not do everything the way we wanna do it. We have to believe that they're modernizing for a reason. We have to support that, and we have to be able to defend our country, have the will to defend our country.

Seth Holehouse: 48:19

Yeah. I'm glad that you mentioned, pardon me, Russia's role in this. Because I also think that in many ways, you can use that same three kingdoms approach in looking at America, Russia, and China. Right? You know, three very powerful independent nations.

Seth Holehouse: 48:35

And I think that if Trump if they if they would not have been successful in stealing 2020, and if Trump would have got, you know, did his eight years total straight, I think that he would have pulled Russia over to our side. And he would have and he he was working on that trying to bring Putin closer. And as much as all the media, which a lot of media was taking its, you know, cues from the CCP, you're demonizing any kind of conversation with Putin. However

Boone Cutler: 49:04

Oh, yeah.

Seth Holehouse: 49:05

I think that what Biden did is Biden drove him right into the arms of the CCP. And when he weaponized the swift system, he weaponized our financial system against Russia, kicking them out, and weaponized our, you know, our global reserve currency against them, like, where you expect him to go? And so I think that what Trump is where he what he has right now, he has four years of any potential hope that we had of maybe even teaming up with Russia against China is completely gone because of the actions of the Biden administration.

Boone Cutler: 49:39

So you're saying Biden's actions ultimately helped make China stronger.

Seth Holehouse: 49:49

Yeah. Exactly.

Boone Cutler: 49:51

I think that happened on many levels, and I think we need to be very astute at what we're seeing. These books, I'm not just trying to hock books, trying to get you to understand what's going on in our world. And right now, General Flynn, I'm writing our fourth book. It's the guide to democratic revolution in China, how to destroy the CCP. It's the inverse of, unrestricted warfare.

Boone Cutler: 50:16

So these are these are things that people really need to get smart on. How China affects our country, the West, you know, free minded people, that's very important to understand their techniques. Now I'd love to be able to sit here and have that conversation with you, but I can't do it in less than, let me see, 46 let me see, seven 18,000 words for this one, forty six thousand words for this one, and forty three thousand words for that one. It takes time. You have to study.

Boone Cutler: 50:43

Like, you really have to study. This this is about your family. It's about your family and it's about your future. So get up to speed on what's going on with China and get up to speed with understanding what fifth generation warfare is and how it affects you in your life because that's where we're at, and every one of us is involved. Right now, everyone is involved right now.

Boone Cutler: 51:04

And you don't wanna be that guy who was the useful idiot, and you ended up helping somebody else take over your country.

Seth Holehouse: 51:12

Yeah. It is funny because also you asked me that question. It's kinda like, oh, so are you saying that Biden acted in a way that weakened America and strengthened China? It's like, oh, of course. Right?

Seth Holehouse: 51:24

And and obviously, you're you're you're kinda asking me the rhetorical question of that. But if you look at the cartels and the fentanyl, it's like, wow. How much of the cartel activity traces right back to the CCP? I mean, even looking at this

Boone Cutler: 51:36

And who and who facilitated it? Biden. Exactly. And who was behind Biden? Obama.

Boone Cutler: 51:43

So, I mean, this and where did Obama come from? Do we even know yet? You know? I mean so all these things, people kinda need to expand your mind and and and see what's you know, see it from a different angle, a different frame of reference. We've been at war for a long time in this country.

Boone Cutler: 52:00

All all nations are always at war with each other, you know, gray zone warfare. Right? But it's very important to understand that there are there is gray zone warfare and and how what actions take place in that warfare, especially, I'll say it over and over again, in the political sphere because the political sphere makes the laws, and that's how you control people. So that's why there's so much work in the political sphere. How do you influence the political sphere?

Boone Cutler: 52:28

Through corporations, through lobbyists, through money, through the stock market? I mean, how many of our politicians willfully said, I'll absolutely vote for that. Everybody get the vaxx. Three days earlier, they just bought a bunch of Moderna and Johnson and Johnson stock. Okay?

Boone Cutler: 52:44

Stock market is one of those tools to manipulate our own political sphere because it's bribes on demand. You don't have to see lobbyists come in with Manila envelopes of cash, lining it across the table. They just have to make you aware that if you vote this way, the stock goes up. So your vote is in three weeks, go buy your stock now. This is the game, and we must be very, very smart about all the players in the game, the state actors, the non state actors, the the the NGOs.

Boone Cutler: 53:15

Huge. We wrote a lot about NGOs. You know, it's interesting. Trump just came out and said, he singled out Zuckerberg, Gates, and Soros. Can't use grant money overseas.

Boone Cutler: 53:26

Well, in that book right that book right there, we talk specifically about Zuckerberg, Soros, and Gates, And it was for a reason. It was who who they're really supporting. So these are the things that are happening around us every single day. It happens at food prices, gas prices, how your kid all of a sudden rebels against you and adopts an ideology that is so far against everything you ever taught them. All the things that have happened in the schools, the DEI, all this stuff.

Boone Cutler: 54:00

A lot of it pushed by the corporations who are being controlled by China. So we gotta open ourselves up to all these things that are happening, the attack on faith, attack on Christianity, attack on on on on on European derived or dissented human beings that currently live in The United States. You know? These are all things that are part of that campaign. And, I I just I just thank you for your time and and bringing me on so we can have you know, I love your show.

Boone Cutler: 54:29

You got a great show. And like I said, I I didn't know about it till people were bragging about it. And and now I know about it. So it's an honor to be on your show and to be able to sit down, have a sensible conversation about strategic allies, geopolitics, information warfare, psychological operations, economic warfare. You know, these are the things that we really, as an American people, have to become versed in and understanding that our current operational environment is we've gotta clean our house at the same time we have to defend it.

Seth Holehouse: 55:00

Well, and one other point, I'll mention is just that when you see even say Putin, some of his speeches over the past couple of years talking about the the demonic behavior of the West and and these, you know, or people I'll see people say, oh, well, look look at this, the the LGBTQ plus, these transgender movements in America. It's obvious America has become so corrupted, and look at China. You know, there's none of that in China, and and and they're so it's almost as if, like, they're looking at China as a gold standard or Russia. Like, oh, Russia doesn't allow that. And I think that one thing which we could be very aware of is that a lot of what's happening in our country policies, you know, these movements, cultural movements, what's coming out of Hollywood, you know, These are are movements created in a lot of ways by foreign enemies who've who've compromised people that make decisions and, you know, politicians, you know, corporate CEOs, etcetera.

Seth Holehouse: 55:56

So they've compromised us. They've injected our society full of this filth that they can then stand on a high horse and say, look how corrupted America's become. Look how

Boone Cutler: 56:06

China is on

Seth Holehouse: 56:07

the standard. And, like, that's another

Boone Cutler: 56:09

You hit it right on head.

Seth Holehouse: 56:09

Deep way. That's another deep psychological operation.

Boone Cutler: 56:13

I see people say, you know, a lot of Americans have a lot of respect for Putin. And like I say, you know, I I I respect the technique. He's smart. He's really smart. He's got a lot of control, and, but he's not our ally, guys.

Boone Cutler: 56:31

He's not our ally. I know you want to believe he could be, but today here, right now, he's not our ally. That's hard for people to accept for for many reasons, and it usually boils down to some sort of information campaign that they've come across and gotten deep into, which isn't their fault. They don't know. You know?

Boone Cutler: 56:54

I mean, that's that's the thing. You know? These people aren't bad. They just don't know. You know?

Boone Cutler: 56:59

And the people that throw a Black Lives Matter sticker on their car, they're not bad. I mean, I I I talk about this all the time. It's very, very true. If you wanna do something that you can help your country right now, just understand this particular story. If you're driving behind somebody and say

Seth Holehouse: 57:17

a

Boone Cutler: 57:17

person is driving behind somebody and they see a Trump sticker, Now they get all fired up. They I mean, they're the the polarization goes through the the oh, this white Christian nationalist. I hate this Nazi. Right? Well, how do they know the person driving that car just doesn't believe in a strong national defense?

Boone Cutler: 57:33

I think that's common ground. I think we can all believe in a strong national defense. Equally, you drive behind a car that has a Black Lives Matter sticker. Oh my goodness. Look at this Marxist.

Boone Cutler: 57:43

You know, this is the this person is the reason my country you don't know that about that person. That's your frame of reference. They might have bi biracial children, and they just don't believe in and and they're against racism. Well, I think we can all agree that racism is bad. So we've got to stop with this polarization that shuts down our critical thinking skills.

Boone Cutler: 58:04

Pull it back. Your neighbor's not your enemy. There are active information operations going on, active psychological operations going on. And we need to realize what makes us susceptible to those things and and not be susceptible to them because that's a good way to make mistakes that we can't come back from. So put your fervor where it belongs.

Seth Holehouse: 58:26

Which is part of why I do this and why you do what you're doing is because we're trying our best to help people understand where that fervor belongs. Right? It's like, yeah, don't don't spend all your time seething over your neighbor with a Biden sign, you know, or a BLM flag. Like, figure out where your common ground is. And it's like, yeah, you know, it's a good point.

Seth Holehouse: 58:47

It's like a lot of people think that, like, what is the old, you know, the old saying. Right? The the the path to hell is is paid in good intentions. Right? The road to hell is paid with good intentions.

Seth Holehouse: 58:55

So a lot of people think, oh, of course, I I should support BLM. I I kinda think racism's good. Like like, I think this is this is a good movement. They don't understand. Right?

Seth Holehouse: 59:06

Just like a

Boone Cutler: 59:06

lot understand there's ActBlue involved. He's taking your donations and filtering them to a political entity that supports a Marxist agenda. No. They didn't understand that when they gave $5 to a certain charity that was filtered through ActBlue. They didn't know that.

Boone Cutler: 59:20

Don't act like they did. You know what I mean? Don't act like they did. They they were you know, and I'll point out another thing that I think is very important in our country. The vaxx versus non vaxx.

Boone Cutler: 59:31

You know? You've got people going, oh, I hate people who were vaxxed. They were against me. They demonize me, everything. Okay.

Boone Cutler: 59:38

You know who your best ally is if you were a non vaxxed person? Your best ally is someone who has been vaxxed injured. That's your best ally. They can speak to it, all the stuff that you were worried about. So these should be treated like your best allies, not, oh, they deserve what they get.

Boone Cutler: 59:55

No. No. No. Bring them in the boat. Bring them in the boat because they can speak on your behalf now.

Boone Cutler: 01:00:00

Because everything you were worried about, they've actually been through. So these are the things that we've gotta look at these things differently. And where we have these these divisions amongst our own society, we gotta look at it really hard and make sure we're not being the useful idiot that other people are trying to make us.

Seth Holehouse: 01:00:18

Such an important point. And and I and I also appreciate being able to have this conversation with you and just have it being open. You know, I didn't really know what angle you're gonna take on certain things. I mean, I've, you know, I've I've read your work, and I'm I'm, you know, aware of of of a handful of things. And so it's just it's important that we can just have this open discussion where we're just talking through, because it's so complicated.

Seth Holehouse: 01:00:41

That's the thing is that there are layers upon layers upon layers of of psyops and and just mass confusion that, you know, you ask you you know, 10 people who are the enemies of America, and you'll get 10 different answers. Right? Which to me shows you how effective our enemies have been at, you know, pulling the wool over the eyes of Americans.

Boone Cutler: 01:01:02

In SIOP, there's something called target audience segmentation. Right? You wanna take you wanna find out the segments of different target audiences and get them all going in one direction. I'll give you a good example. In Iraq, we had to get we we we're trying to set up a new government.

Boone Cutler: 01:01:15

Alright? And you've got three major factions, Sunni, Shia, and Kurd. All of them believe different stuff. Some of it overlaps, some of it doesn't. But somehow, we've got to make them all believe in a free and fair election somehow.

Boone Cutler: 01:01:31

Well, that doesn't mean we said everything to the Sunnis that we said to the Shia, which we said to the we said to the Kurds. They each had different motivators. So we would use the motivators that were specific to them, each individual group, which didn't apply to the other groups, but it applied to them to get them going in one direction. That's target audience segmentation. When you see people in The United States, like you just said, ask 10 people who the enemy is, and you'll get 10 different answers.

Boone Cutler: 01:02:00

Okay. You've been segmented. You've been segmented. Okay? Who is because if if you can believe the Zionists are the enemy, well, then you kinda took your eye off China, didn't you?

Boone Cutler: 01:02:14

If you can believe that Putin is your best friend and he's aligned with China, and then all of a sudden they align with each other and you're like, wait, no, I don't wanna fight that fight because my friend is on their team and I don't wanna fight my friend. You've been segmented. Okay? At the end of the day, I hate to, you know, be so crude or crass about this, but we live on this chunk of ground. Okay?

Boone Cutler: 01:02:39

From the East to the West, from north to the South, this is our piece of property on the planet. It is the only place we control, and it's where we live. Anybody trying to stand against us being free on this chunk of ground is our enemy, period. End of story. Doesn't matter where they're from.

Boone Cutler: 01:02:56

Doesn't matter what you think about them. The truth is that's your adversary. Protect your home. Protect your country. And realize that your enemies are trying to make themselves look like your friends when they're not.

Boone Cutler: 01:03:13

And there are enemies that are trying to make our allies look like our enemies, and they're not. All this is happening all the time. Study up on what statecraft is. Study up on what unconventional warfare is. Study up on fifth generation warfare because that's where you're at right now.

Boone Cutler: 01:03:31

We're we're quickly sliding into the sixth generation of war. And once we get deeper into that, there's really no stepping back. We've gotta handle things now. There is a true sense of urgency.

Seth Holehouse: 01:03:42

There really is. So, Boone, where is the best place for people to buy your books?

Boone Cutler: 01:03:48

You can buy them anywhere books are sold online, or you can go to generalFlynn.com, pull down the drop down to books, and they're all right there. They're actually at a discount if you buy them on generalFlynn.com, but some people like the convenience of what they're already doing. Yep. You see books right there, and there's all the books. We've got three books right now.

Boone Cutler: 01:04:05

The first one is introduction to fifth generation warfare. The second one is how to fight artificial intelligence, which is very, very important, becoming more important every And the third one is the role of the church. And it's really an organized and mobilized type format where you can organize. If your leaders in the church aren't they're being milquetoast, you don't need the leaders of your church. You can take members of your own congregation congregation and still organize to mobilize and focus on on on going against that Marxist agenda that's attacking, Christians.

Boone Cutler: 01:04:39

It's attacking the church.

Seth Holehouse: 01:04:42

Well, great. Well, and I'm looking forward to when's your next one coming out about China?

Boone Cutler: 01:04:48

I'm gonna say probably about two, three months.

Seth Holehouse: 01:04:52

Okay.

Boone Cutler: 01:04:52

Great. It's it's it's a heavy lift. It's definitely the heaviest lift we've but it's so important because, you know, we've got a flood resources, you know, across across Indochina, Indo Pacific. We've got a flood resources there, and we've also got to do things to support the diaspora worldwide that will put effects on the ground in Mainland China. And this is this is what that book does.

Boone Cutler: 01:05:15

It tells people how to do that.

Seth Holehouse: 01:05:17

Well, I'm I'm really looking forward to that. So, maybe we'll do we'll do their show around that time, which should be great. So thank you again for for coming on and and giving us your time. I mean, any last, you know, thoughts or anything before we we sign off here?

Boone Cutler: 01:05:32

No, man. Keep doing what you're doing. I think you're doing a great job. I enjoy coming on your show, and I'd be happy to come back anytime. Everybody else, get studied up.

Boone Cutler: 01:05:39

Get the books, get studied up. They're easy to read. You can get through them in, you know, two, three hours, but you'll be a lot smarter after you get done, and then the lights come on.

Seth Holehouse: 01:05:48

Yeah. Well, this is it's information warfare. So, like, this right here is my RPG, and, you know, these books are are your your land mines you're you're laying out there. So this is this is it. This is this is war these days.

Seth Holehouse: 01:06:00

So it's it's good to be on the battlefield with you of this information war.

Boone Cutler: 01:06:06

Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.

Seth Holehouse: 01:06:07

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