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The people everyone else leans on: coaches, healers, teachers, nurses, the ones running things a lot of people depend on. They spend their days asking everyone else the hard questions, and nobody turns around and asks them. The Six Foot World is thirty minutes where somebody does. Hosted by Dylan Bost, author of The 7 Mirrors. No plugs, no promotion, no highlight reels. Nobody follows up on fine. This show does.
Hi. I'm Dylan Bost, and this is The Six Foot World. Danny Brassell has stood in front of more rooms than almost anyone I know, 3,500 of them. He's written books about reading. He runs a book club for people who think they don't have time to read, and he spends most of his time convincing other people they are capable of more than they believe.
Dylan Bost:He's also a friend of mine. Here's what I asked him. You wrote something that that struck me. You know, you wrote that you're sitting with what the next chapter looks like and where you can make the biggest difference now. And you're also trying to make sure that you're actually, though, enjoying your life, that you worked really, really hard up until this point to build.
Dylan Bost:Tell me about that.
Danny Brassell:Well, I have spent the last thirty years with literacy as my specialty and basically the last five, I've really kind of devoted more towards financial literacy because a lot of the people I care about the most turns out they weren't really properly prepared for retirement. And I see that that's kind of an epidemic in society. And so I like being able to explain what people think are complicated concepts in a more simplified way. People are smarter than they think. They just don't know what they don't know.
Danny Brassell:So I've enjoyed working with people on retirement planning seminars and working with financial planners on how to make financial planning a little bit less foreign to common everyday people.
Dylan Bost:Okay, when that's two, I think, you know, that's what you're building. But what are you along the way? What are you carrying when it comes to the, I guess, the the line between that next chapter and, you know, and trying to serve those people?
Danny Brassell:Yeah. I mean, there's a great story. Well, I mean, I I look at the two conflicting stories. Andrew Carnegie was the wealthiest person on the... In the world, and reporter asked him how much was enough.
Danny Brassell:And he said just a little bit more. Meanwhile meanwhile, there's a story of the authors Kurt Vonnegut and Joseph Heller were at a party for a hedge fund manager in the Hamptons, and Kurt Vonnegut ripped Joseph Heller. He said, you know that this guy has made more money today than you've made your entire life off of your hip book Catch-twenty two. And Joseph Heller said, well, I got something that he doesn't have. And Kurt Hanigan looked at him and said, what's that?
Danny Brassell:And he said, I have enough. And I think I've, I'm blessed that I see a lot of people running a treadmill. And I've been blessed. I have a great family. I have financial resources.
Danny Brassell:You know, my health is probably the best it's been in years. And so I guess I'm hitting that. This is the indirect way of getting to your answer to your question, Dylan, is that it's now more about giving back to everybody else. It's not really about me anymore.
Dylan Bost:Yeah. So what... In that giving back, and, like, what's the part that you enjoy the most?
Danny Brassell:I I mean, I've always been naturally a teacher, and I love... I just love helping people out. I kinda have one little habit I have is whenever I think of a person, I just shoot them a quick little video saying, hey, I'm thinking about you. I hope all is well in your world. And people appreciate that.
Danny Brassell:It's just that little personal touch. It's kind of like I've always been a handwritten note kind of person. It's those little things that most people don't do. Just, you know, common courtesy is very uncommon nowadays. And just showing people that you're more than your social media profile is important.
Dylan Bost:Yeah. Do you find that these kind of the personal touches are a real... I mean, I hate to use the business term differentiator. Right? But, I mean, do you...
Dylan Bost:Does that strike you as some of these easy ways to touch are, like, super old school?
Danny Brassell:Yeah. I mean, most people... I mean, there's, to be frank, Dylan is pretty much an inauthenticity to most people nowadays. Everybody's about their social media or about, you know, what can I do to? I I I just don't get that.
Danny Brassell:I I I really want a personal relationship with people. Why why go on a phone call when I can actually see you in person? Those those things matter to me. And I think that I mean, yeah, to use your term, it differentiates me. But that's not really my purpose anymore.
Danny Brassell:I guess, I don't know if it's ever been my purpose, but at least I'm a little bit more cognizant of it now. I... You know, we don't have much time on this planet, and there's a lot of material things that just really aren't that significant that a lot of people are going for. And I've I've worked with so many very wealthy people who are very unhappy. And, I know a lot of people that aren't wealthy at all that are very happy.
Danny Brassell:And I I don't wanna be one of these people. My my father used to have... He hated the movie Titanic because he's like, you know what? I hate movies that always make poor people look happy and rich people look unhappy. It's like, make me rich.
Danny Brassell:I'll be happy. And I'm like, well, just... Something to that. But I I I I think the roundabout answer for you is I have my my priorities are are in the right order nowadays.
Dylan Bost:Yeah. Do you find that... You know, I wonder, you know, when you're working with people, do you find there's any friction or tension in that, you know, they're where they are? And, you know, and I love your message, and and I can echo a lot of that as well. But, you know, do you find that that that's seen super positively that's like, give me more of that, or do you...
Dylan Bost:Or is it met with any skepticism? And it's like, how can you know where I am if you've always been in this great place? Like, do you do you see that at all?
Danny Brassell:Yeah. Well, I mean, I definitely not always been in that great place. I mean, I've gone through my fair share of, you know, basically, I think we've talked about this before, you know, in 2005, my wife and I attended a real estate seminar, which turned out to be a scam and we lost everything financially. And I've always I've been blessed, Dylan. I'm different than a lot of people.
Danny Brassell:I am a very positive, optimistic person who's always looking at the silver lining. A good friend of mine was sick and he spoke to a common friend of ours. The common friend said, Call Danny, because Danny, he's gonna tell you that not only is it good that this disease happened, but it's the best thing ever to happen. So, you know, I'm like, well... But I I I do believe that.
Danny Brassell:I think life is really all a peace of mind. And
Dylan Bost:Right.
Danny Brassell:I I I I don't know. I'm I'm being unclear. I'm blessed that I have a positive outlook on life. I like to impart that on people. I think if you're a Debbie Downer, I guess really it's one of the things I've always believed in is if you always focus on the problem, you're just going to create a lot more problems.
Danny Brassell:Whereas if you focus on the solution, you're gonna come up with a lot more solutions. And I'm interested in the solution, not the problem.
Dylan Bost:Yeah. I love that. I love that one. It's true. Right?
Dylan Bost:Because I think that not only if you are stuck with that problem, you you repeat it at at, you know, I guess, at least, but at worst, you're hung in that area. Right? You're unable to see that. And I don't know. I think about it as that they're they're all messages.
Dylan Bost:I am probably a lot like you in that. I don't know that I've had someone say, hey. Call Dylan, and this is what he's gonna tell you. But, you know, my kids do get tired of me saying, you know, something happens, and I turn to him and I say to him, like, what's the message there? Right?
Dylan Bost:And I wish someone told me that because I think... Well, I not think... I know that's the truth. The reality is, you know, this stuff is gonna happen, and and stuff's gonna happen to you and me next week, and we're gonna deal with whatever flavor of of... But it's it's what we take from it and then what we do with it that...
Dylan Bost:And there's two paths. Right? There's always two choices there. You can kinda hang out and be disgruntled about it or or, you know, I don't know. I I try to avoid that that constant telling everyone around me all the things that have happened because the the reality is you're just reliving it.
Dylan Bost:So... But I love that. Yeah. That's good. Well, good.
Dylan Bost:Well, you also told me that once... That you won't be satisfied, I love this, until every single person in the room signs up. And, you know, and and, you know, from one of your programs as you're speaking. And you also wrote an... In, you know, in the in the document you submitted that you wrote that you wanna make sure that you're enjoying the life you built.
Dylan Bost:So what do you... You know, where's that tension in there for... Are you enjoying that when you, you know, were... That have those high expectations and... Of of yourself that you're closing all those things, you're connecting with everyone yet maybe you don't?
Dylan Bost:And how do you how, you know, how do you how do you reconcile those two things?
Danny Brassell:Well, I've always had a high expectation for myself, Dylan, and so I'll never be satisfied. I'm very competitive. I wanna be the best at what I do. That doesn't have to be at the cost of putting another person down. Just made this comment yesterday.
Danny Brassell:Was watching television and so many political ads and all of the political ads was just people putting down their opponents. And I'm always reminded of there is a great story of Mother Teresa was asked to attend an anti war protest and she refused and said, but if you have a pro peace protest, I'll go to that. I love that story. Yeah, you can be against plenty of things. What are you for?
Danny Brassell:I like that. Like that a lot. Again, it gets back to what... What's the solution? I'm in a really good place.
Danny Brassell:My mentally, I'm in the right place. But again, Warren Buffett had really good perspective on this. Somebody said, wow, you have a lot of integrity. And he said, we'll never know. What do you mean by that?
Danny Brassell:He's like, well, I was never 19, broke, trying to feed a wife and child. I'm like, oh, there's a lot of self examination there. I mean, I was very blessed. I was born white male in America. Yeah.
Danny Brassell:There's a lot of advantages handed to me that I always took for granted. It's just not like that with everybody. I admire people that fight back. The one constant I believe out there is change. I think things are always gonna change.
Danny Brassell:I look at my life, all the changes in my life and all the changes coming up, and I'm an evangelist now for AI. People are all talking about the doom and gloom of AI, and I'm a person that just believes AI is a tool. And when used properly, I think AI has tremendous potential to help society. And I think there's plenty of evil people that will use it for evil means, but that's just the history of humankind is every new technology. But people say, Oh, this is gonna destroy jobs.
Danny Brassell:I'm like, No, it's just gonna transform the economy. People aren't going to lose their job to AI. They're gonna lose their job to a person who understands AI better than them. You might as well jump on it right now and start learning and teaching yourself. This is why education is so important to me is that I think that, that's why I love, I mean, like, look at this medium.
Danny Brassell:This wasn't available to us twenty years ago. Now with the Internet, I mean, I just think that you don't have to be born in New York City anymore. You could be some poor kid on a dirt floor in Cambodia. But if you have a laptop and an Internet connection, you have the same access as the head of Google. The world has got a whole lot smaller and you don't have excuses anymore.
Danny Brassell:And I can't stand excuses. I've never... When, you know, as a as a teacher, as an employer, I've always said the next time you have it, you need to give me an excuse, just say Peru has a new dictator. And people are like, why am I saying it? And they're like Peru has a new dictator.
Danny Brassell:Like, what's that got to do with anything? I'm like, well, one excuse is as good as another. It didn't get done, did it? Why are we wasting our time on the excuses? Let's focus on how do we get better.
Danny Brassell:And, that's what I I I mean, this is again... I'm getting roundabout answers to you. It's it's the pursuit. I don't know if perfection is ever achievable, but the pursuit of perfection is a fun is a fun journey for me.
Dylan Bost:Yeah. I love that. When did you notice that that, you know, the the wiring was that way, this... These high expectations of yourself?
Danny Brassell:I've just noticed that. I know that not everybody has that. I'm I'm blessed that way is I'm always like, look. How do I get better? How do I get better?
Danny Brassell:I was in a mastermind, and there two versions of the mastermind. There was group A and group B. And I started off in group B. And I found that rather than trying to solve my problems, was trying to solve everybody else's problems. And in the process of solving their problems, I actually solved my problems.
Danny Brassell:The the person running the mastermind noticed this and put me in group a, and all these people in group b were annoyed. Oh, why does he get to go up to group a? I didn't care which group I was in. And I'm in group a, and the person giving a presentation mentioned something. And as he was mentioning it, the gentleman next to me and I, we were both on our phones ordering it.
Danny Brassell:And I looked at him and I'm like, oh, this is the difference between group a and group b. Group a, we do stuff. Yeah. Everybody loves to talk, but nobody likes to do the work. And Yeah.
Danny Brassell:You know, it's the same with my speaking. Everybody's like, well, that you're you're so gifted naturally. And I'm like, that's Mhmm. That's kind of insulting to to hear something like that. You don't see all the work that's...
Danny Brassell:It's like somebody is saying, I just came across. I had never seen this quote. I love Michael Jordan, and it's now my favorite quote by Michael Jordan. Somebody asked him. They're like, oh, is it your defense?
Danny Brassell:Is it your shooting? You know, is it is it your drive? What's what's the what's the thing that's a killer for you that that puts you above everybody else? And he said, it's my coachability. I'm always looking for what can I do to get better?
Danny Brassell:I'm like,
Dylan Bost:oh, wow,
Danny Brassell:that's great. I love that. And a lot of people, you know, they want everything. It's again, I'm gonna give another sports analogy. Gary Player, the golfer has a perfect swing.
Danny Brassell:And for years, people have told him, oh, I wish I had a swing like yours. I wish I had a swing like yours. And somebody said it to him once. It just rubbed him the wrong way. He's like, no, you don't.
Danny Brassell:You don't wanna get up every single morning and hit 1,000 golf balls until your your hands are bleeding and then bandage your hands and then hit another thousand golf balls. No. You want my swing without doing anything for it.
Dylan Bost:Yeah. Yeah. Why... Yeah. Why do you find...
Dylan Bost:I've wondered... You've used that word twice, on our pre call too, insulting. I mean, I look at it the other way. Right? I mean, it's it's you do practice that to where you get to a point where it does seem natural.
Dylan Bost:I mean, it's like this. And I know you're not acting. You're you're perfecting the part of you, I think, that wants to come out. But, I mean, to me, I think that's a... You know you know, yeah, there might be a couple of people out there that just naturally can do that.
Dylan Bost:But I've done some of what you're talking about as I'm speaking. And, man, I mean, there's... It seems easy until you do it. Right? Yeah.
Dylan Bost:And so, you know, I mean, I think that's a real nod for you to be like, man, you know, you... Without them knowing you put in the time, you know, it's like it it shows.
Danny Brassell:Yeah. And I And I... You're right about that, Phil. I don't think people are trying to be insulting. I think it's just insulting.
Danny Brassell:It's insulting because it doesn't recognize the effort that was put into it. Right. See that this isn't natural. There's nothing natural about this. That...
Danny Brassell:A lot of work. I mean, I... My presentation... I'm doing the presentation tomorrow night. I did it last Thursday night.
Danny Brassell:I spent all day Thursday. I mean, and Thursday was the best I'd ever done it, but I'm not resting my laurels. I've already changed, like, three things about it. And I'm like, okay. Let's see how it goes tomorrow.
Danny Brassell:Let's see if I can make it better. And I'm always trying to... And once the presentation's there, people think it's done. I'm like, it's not because then I'm like, okay, well, if I want everybody to sign up, what are what are some of the things I can do to create an environment where they're gonna want to rally? And how do I do this without being manipulative?
Danny Brassell:How do I show a person, hey, this is something that's in your best interest. You need to jump on this. Where can I add a little bit of humor to build a little bit more rapport with the audience? How do I use a better story that can illustrate this? Maybe there's a little bit of research that I...
Danny Brassell:So when a person asks me a question, have this right at my disposal and it's the reps. Mean, and I had talked about this. I mean, it's all about the reps. I don't care what you're doing. It's all about the reps.
Danny Brassell:You gotta get so good at it that you don't even think about it.
Dylan Bost:Yeah. Right. Because you are in this kind of foreign environment, one to a 100 or 500. It's your... You know, you correct me, but it seems like you're trying to make it...
Dylan Bost:Well, you're not trying... You're you're trying to have that same, I guess, intimacy that you have with one person that you've known forever talking about something that you are fully aware of, and you're trying to introduce that same thing. Right?
Danny Brassell:Yeah. Had a woman come up to me after a presentation. She's like, oh, I've always wanted to be a speaker, but I couldn't do what you do. You're so you're so quick at answering questions. And I looked at her and I said, you know, the question that you asked me, what you don't understand is I've been asked that question 500 times before.
Danny Brassell:So before you asked that question, I gave you that perfect answer. I had 500 opportunities to craft that perfect. People don't see that. It's kinda like I I was a great admirer of Robin Williams and his comedy and how gifted naturally he was at improvisation. And knowing that he...
Danny Brassell:It was... There's nothing natural about it. He worked really hard, to get... He he was such a great artist. That's the art is making it look like it was natural, and it just came natural to him.
Danny Brassell:That was the art. There was a lot of hard work put into that.
Dylan Bost:Yeah, no doubt. Do you ever I mean, what happens in that moment when you get asked that question that you're not prepared for?
Danny Brassell:Yeah, well, that's great. Actually, I mean, the only way you're gonna grow is being uncomfortable. And Yeah. That happens all the time too. Was...
Danny Brassell:Couple of weeks ago, I was asked a question I should not have answered, and I tried to answer it. And I fell flat on my face. And I'm like, okay. Now I know the way to answer that question next time is this and this and this. You know, you live and learn, but you can't...
Danny Brassell:Too many people think, well, it would be like Michael Jordan going out on that basketball court and expecting perfection. And when he doesn't reach it, he just gives up. No. You're like, Michael Jordan had plenty of failures, and he's like, okay. It it just drove him to, okay.
Danny Brassell:I gotta work harder so the next time I'm more prepared. Because that's... In speaking as as in anything, I really think that it's the preparation that's gonna really... When I work with people that are nervous, I'm like, well, everybody's nervous. The way you calm down your nerves is preparation.
Danny Brassell:I in when I was an undergraduate for a history class, I hadn't studied for the final exam. When I got to class that day, looked at the professor, I said, I sure hope I I do well on your final. He looked at me and he said, Danny, the time to worry is before you place your bet, not once the wheels suck. Yep.
Dylan Bost:Because that part's done. Yep.
Danny Brassell:That's right.
Dylan Bost:Yep. I love that. I love that. Yeah. And you said nervousness only shows up when you're not properly prepared.
Dylan Bost:What, and I know, though, you said you're you're you're constantly preparing. When was the last time you weren't prepared? It kinda caught you off guard.
Danny Brassell:Yep. Two weeks ago, there was a question. I I was not prepared for the question. I should not have answered the question. I...
Danny Brassell:But I thought, oh, I'm I'm Danny. I can answer any of that. And I I found myself in a hole real quick. And, it was good. It was a it was a lesson.
Danny Brassell:I mean... And that's a lesson to everybody too is even, people that have a lot of experience still make mistakes all the time. And, but there's nothing... That's not something to be feared. It's something to learn from.
Dylan Bost:Yeah. I mean, do you find, like, when you're in front of these audiences, right, that you... In that situation, are you kinda... I guess I guess in that moment, you were quick to answer, and then you kinda caught it maybe mid answer that that you weren't going someplace. Or, I mean, do you do you find that the audiences...
Dylan Bost:Do you think that that they'd be okay with you just going, man, I don't know? Or, I mean... Or do you drive yourself to have to answer this?
Danny Brassell:No. I I I actually did break my rule because I I am a person of police. If I don't know the answer to a question, I'll just say I don't know. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with that, and I think that's completely serviceable.
Dylan Bost:Yeah.
Danny Brassell:But I also enjoy the challenge. Know, things happen every now and then when I'm speaking, and I like to see how I react to it. What's my response? I mean, was in Las Vegas once and I was giving a PowerPoint presentation and all the technology broke down. So I'm in front of 500 people with no technology.
Danny Brassell:And I was like, hey, I gotta work on my technology here, folks. And just so you know, whenever the technology breaks down, I teach you songs. And I taught everybody all these songs and they all had a great time. I got some of my best reviews. And then I started thinking, well, maybe I should start faking a technology problem because I got such great evaluations because of this.
Danny Brassell:But it was neat. I was like, okay. That was my response to that situation. How do I respond if, you know, if I have half my audience doesn't speak English? How do I respond to that?
Danny Brassell:Or how do I respond? I I love to see... You know, I I always give the example. Probably the best opportunity I ever had was I was in India in 2018, visiting different schools. And I went to this one school, and the principal opens up the door, And there's 5,000 kids sitting in the auditorium.
Danny Brassell:There's, like, 20 newspapers, five TV stations. And the principal says, and now doctor Brassell for the next hour is going to teach us the three secrets to reading better. Dylan, nobody's told me I'm speaking, and I have no such speech. But I got 5,000 kids. I got media.
Danny Brassell:So I look at the kids. Fortunately, it was India. I get to slow down my speech, and I look at the kids. I'm like, today, I would like to teach you the three secrets to reading better. Who wants to learn?
Danny Brassell:The three... And the kids are going wild, and they might... What the heck are the three secrets to reading better? And in those thirty seconds, I put together a one hour presentation that was cast live to 1,500,000,000 people. Now I have a couple based on that presentation.
Danny Brassell:I mean, that was was putting it to the fire. Was like, wow, that's pretty amazing. Yeah. It's happened before. People pick me out of the audience and I got to speak.
Danny Brassell:Learned that actually. Was at an event and I was sitting next to a pretty famous athlete And the conference organizer noticed him and asked him to come on stage and tell the audience what he'd been up to the last ten years. And I thought to myself, oh, I need to be prepared because you never know when a conference organizer is gonna ask you to tell 1,500 people what you've been up to. And so that was a good lesson for me. I'm like, okay, I need to have a one hour presentation.
Danny Brassell:I need to have a thirty minute presentation, a twenty minute, a fifteen, a ten, a five, a three, thirty seconds. Am I prepared for these different types of situations? Like, in this format, I can go a little bit longer on my answers to you, and I've been going way too long. But, I mean, when I'm on television interviews, they they give you about six seconds to answer a question. So I'm like, okay.
Danny Brassell:I gotta be very succinct in how I answer these things.
Dylan Bost:Yeah. That's crazy. I mean, that's one of the reasons I love this format. Right? Because I think that we're so used to this.
Dylan Bost:I gotta get it in eight seconds. And, honestly, the podcast I listen to actually talk about the advantage of this longer format. I mean, because the reality is it does give us an opportunity to know that person more, and and so that's wild to hear. And that's a great story Mhmm. About that presentation.
Dylan Bost:I mean, that is... You know, but you, you know, you you didn't know, but somewhere you had practiced that. Somewhere along the way, you know, you definitely pulled from, you know, that knowledge bank that gave you the ability to to answer to the call to that that presentation. So I love that. Yeah.
Dylan Bost:Yeah. Yeah. You know, one thing too that you told me, which, is is an unusual story, I think, for for a lot of people. You said 18 schools before you were 12. You know, what did that, you know, how do you...
Dylan Bost:When you think back on that, like, what... Did you look at that time as as as good? Was it challenging? I mean, you're constantly finding new people and new friend groups, leaving friends. Tell me a little about that.
Danny Brassell:So the answer to that question is yes. Again, I was speaking at this... After I gave that presentation in India, all of a sudden, every school wanted me to speak. And so I started speaking to schools in India and I pumped all the kids up at one school. And afterwards, all the kids are coming up telling me how great I am.
Danny Brassell:And all of a sudden, looked and there's this little boy and he's got tears in his eyes. And I noticed he's missing his left arm. He's about six years old. And he looks up at me, he's like, how can I succeed? And so I get down to his eye level and I'm like, you know, when I was your age, I went to 18 different schools before I was 12 years old.
Danny Brassell:Everybody called me stupid because I stuttered. And eventually I went to a school where a teacher, she worked one on one with me. And what she would do is she would sing things to me and I found I could answer her back by singing and I didn't have my stutter. It's kinda like the movie The King's Speech. And eventually I lost my stutter and I became a swan.
Danny Brassell:And I looked at that boy in the eyes, I'm like, isn't it interesting that the little boy everybody used to make fun of because he couldn't talk right now gets paid a lot of money to travel the world to do what? And he gets this big grin on his face. He's like, speak. I'm like, don't let anybody ever tell you what you can't do. I think we're really denying people if we don't give them adversity.
Danny Brassell:Adversity has been my best teacher. And so the answer to that question is I was grateful for having all those experiences, Dylan, because it made me have a thicker skin, taught me a little bit about the world. The world is not handed to you. And it's kind of like the real estate fiasco. Sometimes it's that adversity that we have to overcome that also gives us humility.
Danny Brassell:And if there's one thing I've needed in my life, because I have an ego like everybody else, I needed some humility and humility has given me a lot more empathy for people who are struggling with it. There's a lot of people listening to your podcast there. And this is what I like about this format too, Dylan. I mean, I was a journalist a whole other lifetime ago. And the problem I have with the media nowadays, while I'll watch something like PBS, is PBS will spend ten minutes on a story that the cable channels and the networks only spend like thirty seconds on.
Danny Brassell:Because there's no such thing as fake news. There's people that depend on one news source. That's the problem. A good news program should be looking at different points of view on the same issue, and not actually giving you a specific point of view, but letting you use your brain to actually come up with how you view it based on the information you've received. And so I've been blessed to have had all of those experiences.
Danny Brassell:Traveling to different places, being in new environments, again, but this is me, I'm able to see the benefits to that. Made me so I had to be more outgoing to make new friends. It made me interested in being in new places. We were talking off air. You just got back from Arizona.
Danny Brassell:I'm so jet lagged. I've been on three different trips to Asia in the last four weeks. I don't know what times. I'm off to Lithuania next week. My goodness.
Danny Brassell:I love traveling, but there comes a point where it's like, I need like a month home. I just need a month. My sleep schedule right now is great. I mean, before we went on today, I took an hour nap because last night I went to bed at eight. I woke up at one.
Danny Brassell:I took a walk until three in the morning. I'm like, you know, I can't sleep. I might as well just work. And then I'm like, what's gonna happen is in the middle of the day, I'm gonna have to nap, which is exactly what happened. I'll probably nap after this interview.
Danny Brassell:But I like that. There's nothing... I'm not griping about that. I've chosen this life. So...
Danny Brassell:You know?
Dylan Bost:Well, and I think you're... You know? And I I hear what you're saying. I'd... I I don't travel that much, but I'm traveling every two months.
Dylan Bost:And and, you know, there's there's... To me, there's this wonderful sense of being in a different environment and and and that experience. But there's also that need to kinda recoup and have those moments for yourself. But, you know, I think, you know, for you, you know, based on those stories, you know, I think that that part of the driver is right is the people you get to connect with, I would assume. Right?
Danny Brassell:Yeah. And to me, that's where to me, that's wealth. A lot of people choose, things. I choose experiences. And Yeah.
Danny Brassell:There's a lot of research about this too. You could have a brand new Ferrari, and then you could take the worst trip of your life and have every bad thing in the world happen to you. And ten years from now, you're gonna not think very highly of the Ferrari. In that horrible trip you had, you're gonna be talking about it with all this glamour and stuff. It's interesting.
Danny Brassell:The brain, it... It'll take the experience and it actually enhances it over time as opposed to the thing. It always diminishes it. Oh, is this just this? And I I think about that.
Danny Brassell:I'm like, gosh. There's so much truth to that. I can't think of... There's so many things things I've had in my life where I'm like, whatever happened to that thing? I don't even know where it is.
Danny Brassell:It was so important. And now it's like, I don't even know where it is. Whereas with experiences, I'm like, gosh, there was this shared moment with this person or when I hear this song, it takes me back to this place. That's important to me, and it's important to me to to create those experiences for my loved ones.
Dylan Bost:Yeah. I love that. I love that. That's... It's...
Dylan Bost:It is... The experiences are important. And in reality, like you said, I think those experiences are not just the most important thing, but they are the things that last. Right? The other things that that that are along the way that we have this beaming desire for, you know, do fall off, and and the luster goes off.
Dylan Bost:I'd... Something... A a new experience I had years ago was actually renting the car that... And I've done this multiple times, renting the car that I thought that I always wanted. And I found, man, a a week in a car, whatever it is, a Porsche or a Tesla or whatever whatever your flavor is.
Dylan Bost:You know? And I've told people this. I was like, you'll find that you probably don't want it anymore. It's really interesting once you, you know, or go stay in an Airbnb that is, you know, incredible. And you're like, oh, I've done that.
Dylan Bost:And it's funny how you don't need that much of it. And, you know, bigger and greater things, not only do they cost a lot, but the maintenance and the people and the support for those things cost a lot too. And and it's an interesting thing I found. So I I love that. I think it echoes what you said, that that ability to to...
Dylan Bost:Those experiences, and they are. They're they're what you carry. I mean, I can't remember a lot of things from thirty years ago that I had to have, but I sure do remember all those stories with college friends and and kids and my wife and things like that. So that's that's great. I love it.
Danny Brassell:I
Dylan Bost:love it. Yeah.
Danny Brassell:What I'd is I travel and people think, oh, you have to have a lot of money to travel. I'm like, well, I travel first class now, but I used to travel for years. I I mean, I once I once went to South America for three months on $2,000 and I was living in hostels and in hitchhiking. And I mean, I I once took this minivan across Ecuador where I had to help the guy hold his goat on top of the the roof. I mean, I'm holding a chicken on in one hand and trying to keep the goat on the on the roof with the other hand.
Danny Brassell:And I 'm like, I don't know if I would do that now, but I... Gosh, I sure do like the memory. That
Dylan Bost:was The Six Foot World. I'm Dylan Bost. If you want to sit with this further, start at dylanbost.com/show. My book, The Seven Mirrors, comes out November 10.