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Welcome to Suite Independence, the podcast designed exclusively for established beauty professionals ready to transform their careers and build the salon business of their dreams. Hosted by industry veteran Kristin Kienzle, founder of Utopia Modern Salon Suites, this show is your essential guide to thriving independently in the beauty world.
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Ep12
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Meet Savannah Tasset
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Kristin Kienzle: Our guest today left her job as a corporate financial analyst to pursue her passion in aesthetics. She came to Utopia, opened a suite, began her business, and she's only a month in.
Kristin Kienzle: Welcome to our Cranbrook location. Today we are here with Savannah Tasset. She is the owner of Serenity Skin Studio. She does aesthetics here and welcome.
Savannah Tasset: Thank [00:01:00] you. I'm excited to be here. Thanks for having me.
Kristin Kienzle: Thanks. Tell us about yourself. You have a great story about how you got started and what got you here, but let's start with how you got started as an aesthetician.
Early Aesthetics Journey
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Savannah Tasset: Yeah, I have kind of a crazy story. So it was actually in high school, I decided that I wanted to go into aesthetics, so I graduated high school a year early and went ahead and moved to Manhattan, Kansas. For aesthetic school there, kind of my long-term plan originally was to go to K State and so it ended up working out that I was in Manhattan um, for school there.
And so it was kind of back and forth on if it was a good idea for me to do that instead of going to traditional university, but. I went ahead and took the leap with doing that first, and so I was only 17 when I ended up moving out and doing that and starting it on my own.
Kristin Kienzle: What were you going to study at K State if you weren't doing aesthetics?
Savannah Tasset: Yeah, so [00:02:00] originally I was gonna do chemical engineering. Which is what my dad does, and so I kind of always felt led down that path mostly because of him and just being fairly gifted in math. And so I ended up majoring in finance at K State, kind of for that reason.
Kristin Kienzle: Very different from a statistician
Savannah Tasset: school.
Very different. Yeah. So I grew up, you know, really enjoying math and everything, and so that was part of why I chose it. But really my end goal with aesthetics originally was to have my own spa. And so that kind of was another decision with going into business at K State is, you know, I can learn how to have my own business and get some accounting experience and just information to help me with my business in doing that.
Kristin Kienzle: That's really smart. I wish I had that. Backstory.
Savannah Tasset: Yeah.
Kristin Kienzle: That'll be very beneficial someday.
Savannah Tasset: It is now. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Yes. So it's been really good.
Finance Path and Koch
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Savannah Tasset: But I ended up going to K [00:03:00] State in my last month of doing aesthetic school. So I did both for a little while as I finished Aesthetics Up, which was a lot.
Bet. Yeah, I was, I was glad I ended up doing finance at K State as well. Kind of my mindset with that was, well, I'll have this to fall back on in case I decide I don't wanna do aesthetics one day. Mm-hmm. But I ended up kind of feeling the pressure to go down the finance path as I continued my schooling.
So I ended up working for Koch Industries. Out of school. I did a couple months for them as I was finishing up in a co-op position, and then I started as a finance analyst for them as soon as I graduated. So I did that for about two years. And really the last few months of being there, I was just realizing it wasn't a very fulfilling.
Career path for me [00:04:00] to be in. Mm-hmm. And I felt called back to aesthetics because, you know, I really enjoy this environment and mostly helping others. Mm-hmm. Feel good and comfortable, confident in their skin. It's just a much better environment for me to be in as well. And, you know, have those relationships with people one-on-one.
I had a really hard time sitting at. My desk all day, every day
Kristin Kienzle: looking at spreadsheets.
Savannah Tasset: Yeah, just looking at spreadsheets all day, and so decided I needed to get away from from that and go back to something that was more fulfilling for me.
Kristin Kienzle: Had you worked in a spa before?
Savannah Tasset: I did. When I was in school, I actually worked in a couple of different locations, so my first aesthetic experience was.
Different than most people's as well, because it was in a chiropractic office and so it was new for them to start out doing as well. So I got really good experience pretty [00:05:00] early on while I was doing my school at K State where I was able to get them or help. Them get it started with setting up the services, picking out product and equipment, and even having the state board come in and do an inspection there.
So I had a little bit of experience with setting that's up. That's great. Experience space. Yeah.
Kristin Kienzle: Yeah,
Savannah Tasset: it was really good. So I had that which I did for a little bit and then I worked in kind of more of a day spa setting as well, which was really good. It just ended up being too much for me to do that and my finance at K State, so I stepped away from it while I finished up my schooling.
But yeah.
Kristin Kienzle: That is so interesting. So now you're back.
Called Back to Skin
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Kristin Kienzle: And tell us about how you got here, and I would love to hear how you've applied, what you learned with your degree and your finance experience to opening this business. Mm-hmm.
Savannah Tasset: Yeah, so really kind of like [00:06:00] I mentioned, just. Those last few months of being in my previous role and I was really dreading going in every day and just knowing that I wasn't gonna be in a great space and going home at the end of that day, like pretty unhappy with what I was doing.
And so. I thought about going to other companies and continuing to do accounting and finance for them. But the more that I sat with it and prayed on it, I just realized I think regardless, maybe accounting and finance is not where I'm meant to be. So I mean, I debated, you know, going somewhere else looking for something else with Koch but just really felt called back to doing is setting.
Kristin Kienzle: This is where your
heart
is.
Savannah Tasset: Yes. Definitely where my heart is. And so I think I might be a little bit crazy also for just going and renting a studio because I haven't been working as an aesthetician or anything [00:07:00] part-time. So it's been a little bit scary for me jumping into this and starting from scratch, basically.
Mm-hmm. So maybe a little bit crazy and I think. I go back and forth like, should I ha, should I have gone to work for somebody else for a little bit and built some more clients up and done it that way. But I really wanted to kind of have the control and ownership of the services I was providing, the products I was using, and being able to have kind of my own.
Initiative and philosophy with clients that way.
Kristin Kienzle: There is a lot to be said for that, and a lot of businesses start at ground zero and do very well. You, you'll get there. I know you will.
Savannah Tasset: Fingers crossed.
Starting From Scratch
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Kristin Kienzle: What's the, what's the hardest part for you? Are you good at marketing? Do you enjoy marketing or?
What do you find the biggest challenges in getting [00:08:00] started?
Savannah Tasset: That's a good one. I'd say just overall finding new clients. Mm-hmm. And maybe not realizing just how many aesthetics places there were in Wichita. So maybe jumping the gun on that and having some nerves there. Mm-hmm. But I, I heard something really good on Pam's podcast about there should be no other.
Competition because no one's doing exactly what you do. Mm-hmm. So I listened to that recently and I really liked that, what she said. So I'm trying to keep that in the back of my mind
Kristin Kienzle: as well. I love that. That's true.
Client Experience Philosophy
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Kristin Kienzle: And I was thinking as you were saying that, what is it that you believe sets you apart from everyone else?
What, what would draw clients to you rather than someone else?
Savannah Tasset: Mm-hmm. I, I mean, my. Really big goal is making sure that clients feel accommodated in whatever their goals are. Because whether it is, I kind of look at it like, are you here more for results or relaxation? Mm-hmm. And hopefully it's both at the end of the day because I [00:09:00] love.
Both of those, but mm-hmm. Kind of just knowing what your client wants and spending time doing that consultation so that you know, like, okay, I have a lot of issues with aging or acne and I need to be coming back every four to six weeks for my treatment. Mm-hmm. Or maybe I'm just here once every few months to relax and then it's okay.
I can spend more time doing massage. And not walking you through your appointment quite as much. Like for example, I had a girl in on Friday and I could kind of tell she was just wanting to relax and she had taken the day off. And so a lot of the times I'll walk my clients through what I'm doing and the benefits of everything and making sure I'm able to educate them because I'm very passionate about educating as well as.
Just providing the relaxation, but she was kind of, oh, I don't really care. I just wanna relax. And so that's kind of my cue to we'll just have more of a silent appointment and just work some more massage into [00:10:00] it.
Kristin Kienzle: I love that. I think those cues are often missed and I've experienced that as a client in different things.
You know, where. That exact same thing. I just wanna be here to relax. I don't, I don't want to know everything you're doing. Mm-hmm. I'm not interested. Or other times when you do wanna know. I had an experience with physical therapy recently, and I didn't feel like they were telling me enough, and I wanted to know everything, like, why are we doing this?
And I couldn't get it out of 'em. And so it was really frustrating. So the fact that you focus on that, on really tuning into what they are there for and what you can provide for them, I think that definitely sets you apart. I think that's a big gift. Thank
Savannah Tasset: you. That you
Kristin Kienzle: have.
Savannah Tasset: Yeah.
Kristin Kienzle: Yes. So this huge transition you've made is still fresh. Mm-hmm. You've only been here for two
Savannah Tasset: months? A month. A month,
Kristin Kienzle: okay.
Yeah,
Savannah Tasset: just a month.
Building the Studio
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Kristin Kienzle: So what all did you have to do to get from being a financial analyst at Koch to opening your business here? I'm sure there were so many things that you had to set up because you. [00:11:00] You ultimately opened a business mm-hmm. From the ground up. So tell us about everything you've done.
Savannah Tasset: Yeah, yeah, for sure. So I actually only left my job at Koch a few weeks ago and have been doing this for around the same time, about a month. And so it's still pretty fresh and new um, getting some things figured out. Really initially when I decided I did want to make the jump over back into aesthetics, it was kinda spending time looking at what jobs are available in Wichita right now.
And there was one that I thought would be good and I interviewed with them, but it was a pretty low commission percentage and. You know, it's kind of one of those things where maybe starting out would've been okay to do for a little bit before transitioning, but I really had in the back of my head like, well, if I'm really gonna feel like I'm not gonna be making a lot of money there, I would [00:12:00] rather feel like I'm not making a lot of money to start out with and build my own business.
Kristin Kienzle: I think that's smart.
Put the investment in yourself, in your own business.
Savannah Tasset: Yeah. So that was really the first thing I had to decide. And then as far as finding somewhere to lease, I feel like that part was actually really easy. You made it very easy. Oh,
Kristin Kienzle: thank you.
Savannah Tasset: Yes. I looked at Sola just a little bit.
I was like, oh. And then I looked at Utopia Online and. applied and you were very quick to respond and reach out, and I feel like that's almost difficult to find now as someone who is very good at being responsive and wants to help you and answer your questions. And so you being that way very quickly pulled me to Utopia just as quickly.
Um, Thank
Kristin Kienzle: you.
Savannah Tasset: Yeah, it was a great experience and you made it very easy and we looked at a couple of locations and it ended up deciding that this one was gonna be the better decision for me [00:13:00] personally.
Kristin Kienzle: Mm-hmm.
Savannah Tasset: So I
Kristin Kienzle: think you made the right decision.
Savannah Tasset: Yes. I
Kristin Kienzle: think you fit very well here.
Savannah Tasset: Thank you. I do too.
And it's really nice that I am next to some other aestheticians and it's quiet. Mm-hmm. And so I think I made the right choice as well. And your
Kristin Kienzle: space is absolutely beautiful. Thank you. I know. We are in the space, but you can't see everything. Yeah, but the walls are green. Very comforting, very.
Relaxing, all of your decor is very tasteful, and thank you. It speaks to your brand very, very well.
Savannah Tasset: Thank you. Yeah, I just leaned into the green. I think it's been my favorite color the last few years. I think it's kind of been one of those trendy colors, but yeah, like you said, I just think it's very calming and relaxing.
Mm-hmm. And so it was pretty quickly that I was able to get everything set up too Um. during my transition, and so kind of a couple of other things that I had to think about and do were the paint color, all of my decorations, and then coming in and getting that [00:14:00] done, hanging up shelves, all of the pictures.
Spent a lot of time in home goods for sure. Yeah. But I liked everything that I picked out and had my dad and boyfriend help me get everything hung up and. My candles are really pretty and so yes, all the decor I really love and it
Kristin Kienzle: smells good, but something else our viewers or listeners can't experience, but it smells good in here.
Good. It's all good.
Savannah Tasset: Good.
LLC and Systems Setup
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Kristin Kienzle: You had to then find things to put on your shelves and, and figure out a booking system and get your space license. Mm-hmm. What were all the. Technical things that you had to do that, that your clients don't see?
Savannah Tasset: I think the biggest technical piece that people may not think about as quickly is setting up an LLC.
Mm-hmm. And I don't think all estheticians do that. I just decided it would be a good way to kind of add just an extra layer of protection mm-hmm. For myself as well as. The brand that I ended up deciding to go with is [00:15:00] Image Skincare and I used them at the day spa I worked at while I was in school, and I really loved all of their products and fell in love with it then.
And I've used it the past several years since first finding out about it, working there. And so it was really not too much of a decision as far as products. That's nice. So that it, it was easy. But they have the option to do a business account which gets you more benefits than just a regular professional account.
Mm-hmm. So it ended up working out really well that I had the LLC already set up and got a little bit more of a discount there.
Kristin Kienzle: Good. Yeah. Then you had to figure out your booking system, your credit card processing. Mm-hmm. How did all that go?
Savannah Tasset: So I talked to a couple of people and it really led me to Gloss Genius.
And I did a trial with them as well, where I had a couple of weeks to get everything set up and for my services. I [00:16:00] already had kind of a good idea of what I wanted to do for services. I lean mostly towards facials. They're my favorite and I'll do some waxing as well, but I'm definitely more heavy on facials.
I would say my favorite service to do is probably derma plane.
Kristin Kienzle: Mm.
Savannah Tasset: Good
Kristin Kienzle: to know.
Savannah Tasset: Yes. So, yeah, as far as my service menu, I kind of already had a good idea of everything that I enjoy and advocate on, so that part was actually really enjoyable for me to put together.
Why Dermaplaning Works
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Kristin Kienzle: What do you love about the derma plane?
Why? Why is it your favorite?
Savannah Tasset: There are several reasons, but the first one that always comes to mind is just how oddly satisfying It is. I thought you might say that to see all of the like derma plane dust um, which is. All your dead skin peach buzz that you're removing. And so you are using a medical grade scalpel to remove that top layer of all your dead dry skin cells and peach buzz.
And [00:17:00] so it helps remove that and it makes your skin look a lot more radiant, smooth. The texture gets improved a lot and it's really nice. When you put makeup on I would give it at least 24 hours after you get a derma plane just because you have that fresh skin. Mm-hmm. But I always find that your makeup goes on so much more smoothly and it just looks so good.
As well as your products absorbing better into your skin. So yeah, that's my favorite.
Kristin Kienzle: So you love the satisfaction and the results? Yes. That's good. Exactly. That's a lot to love about it.
Savannah Tasset: Yeah, for sure.
Kristin Kienzle: we've established that your favorite service is dermaplaning, and I get it. I love a good dermaplaning as well. The results and the satisfaction of, of seeing the dirty cotton.
Ideal Client Results
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Kristin Kienzle: Who is your favorite? Who's your ideal client? Who do you serve the best? Who do you love to come in, take care of, and you feel really good about the results you're sending?
That person out [00:18:00] with?
Savannah Tasset: That's a great question. It's easy to lean towards my dermaplaning and chemical peel clients. I would say even outside of services though, I really enjoy my clients that come in around every four to six weeks just because we can build that relationship and really someone who is looking for.
Results. Whether it's aging, acne, inflammation, they may have, you know, really being able to spend consistent time with them and someone who has the, the drive to want to make those changes for themselves when it comes to the commitment of coming in once a month, and a lot of the times it's switching your home care products as well.
So someone who's really. Driven to make those changes in their skin and open to suggestions and feedback and [00:19:00] the commitment it takes to make those changes. Because as much as we would all love one facial to fix everyone's problems, just. It's just not the reality. And as much as I love, you know, the clients that come in for that relaxation and give them that experience and time to just unwind, I find that a lot of the meaningful relationships are with people who are here because they want to be here.
I want them to be here. We can spend that time together figuring out what's best for them and tailoring their services and products
Kristin Kienzle: and don't you love enjoying the results with them when, when they see progress and you get to celebrate that with them. Yeah. And you've been a part of it.
Savannah Tasset: Yeah.
Kristin Kienzle: I can see why that's really gratifying.
Savannah Tasset: Yeah. Definitely accomplishing feeling. Mm-hmm. And you know, that's why I'm doing this, you know? Mm-hmm. Is to help women, you know, make those changes and just give them the confidence and feeling good in their skin as well. I
Kristin Kienzle: love that.
Savannah Tasset: Yeah,
Kristin Kienzle: So you've told [00:20:00] us about your favorite service being a derma plane. Mm-hmm. And about the product line that you love, that you carry.
Services Menu Breakdown
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Kristin Kienzle: Let's back up the lens a little bit and tell us about all the services you provide and what you have to offer your clients.
Savannah Tasset: Sure. Yeah. So I kind of mentioned I really prefer, doing facials. That's really where I feel the most passionate and where I can pour into my clients the most. So, dermaplaning, I know I talked about a little bit I also do LED light therapy. There are several benefits with that. So there's red light, blue light, and yellow light are the three most popular types of lights to use for LED therapy.
So. Those are gonna have different benefits, but really you're gonna have stimulated collagen, which helps with anti-aging and your elastin in your skin. So kind of helps with any dragging and wrinkles as well as the blue light is gonna be really good for acne and killing any bacteria you have [00:21:00] there and just overall inflammation that you might have in your skin.
And I've been looking into buying, it's called lum. Is the brand and it's supposed to be more of a medical grade device. So I think I'm going to go with that option. So I'm really excited about that and improving just getting a better product to use there. And then Chemical Peels or another popular one.
So those are a pretty broad range of the intensity that you can use from lower to higher, and I would always recommend clients to start on the lower side with those and we can kind of work them up to a more strong peel when their skin is ready for that. Mm-hmm. That one is great for. Really all different types of clients, whether it's acne, aging, because it's helping to remove that dead skin.
And there are so many different types of acids in the different peels for different [00:22:00] needs. So there's acne, aging, inflammation. Pigmentation is another really big one that we like to focus on with peels and helping lighten your skin. So. peels are another really good one for everybody, just because you can really tailor them to the client's specific needs as well.
And they're a really popular service right now as well, just because they're so effective. Mm-hmm. And then I do waxing, so facial waxing. And then I am going to offer body waxing as well. I just need to get a couple more things for supplies wise, like some paper for my table, but I'll be adding that as well as, as well as some lashes.
I don't know that I want to do extensions. I am kind of on the fence about that. I am gonna do tinting for both lashes and brows. And then I just bought some stuff to do lash lifts as well. Oh. But I didn't love doing lash extensions in school. I [00:23:00] do not have the most patience, and I joke about having sausage fingers, so I was like, that's just not my favorite.
You know, maybe one day I'll get back into it, but it's just not what I'm really passionate about right now. So I don't think that's something I'm gonna offer at least for a little bit until I get more comfortable. But yeah.
Kristin Kienzle: So this might be a dumb question and it exposes that I'm inexperienced in facials.
But are the LED light therapy and the dermaplaning and even the waxing, are those sometimes a part of a facial service or are those all independent services?
Savannah Tasset: Both.
Kristin Kienzle: Okay.
Savannah Tasset: It's kind of up to the client. Okay. So you. Like with the LED therapy that would be something where there are a couple ways you can go about it with.
Kind of doing the facial around the LED therapy. So maybe you do it for a longer time, you're still doing your [00:24:00] cleanse and exfoliating and your little bit of massage and all of your ending products, but that's kind of the highlight of your facial right there. Whereas you could also go about adding it as an add-on service.
So maybe you only do it for 10 or 15 minutes as part of. A chemical peel facial or a derma plane. So you can definitely mix them together like that.
Kristin Kienzle: Okay.
Savannah Tasset: Yeah. Same with the waxing. I'd say people typically come in just for waxing or a facial instead of both. But you could do both at the same time if you wanted to.
Good. Yeah.
Kristin Kienzle: So in the world of aesthetics, there are so many services that you can offer. Mm-hmm. How did you narrow it down to choosing these services to put on your service menu?
Savannah Tasset: I chose the services that I felt the most confident in results wise.
Mm-hmm. As well as my own performance. Mm-hmm. Specifically with the Dermaplaning peels [00:25:00] and LED. Those are all. Three services that I've done still consistently over the years, even being outside of a practicing aesthetician. Mm-hmm. So those are three that are always, you know, top of my list as far as results and just my comfortability as well as I know that they are popular services in the industry right now.
Mm-hmm. So those three were really no-brainers as well as the waxing for that reason. Mm-hmm. You know, it's something that I can do a good job of and offer to clients confidently. And so that was also kind of an easy decision decision. The body treatment that I offer as well. It is just really good because it's so relaxing and it's ideal for those clients who just wanna come in and relax.
So with the body treatment, I'm doing a full body exfoliation massage and then moisturizing. I wanted to make sure I had something that was tailored to a [00:26:00] relaxing service as well, which is where my customized image facial came in too. That one is very good about being both results and relaxation driven because it's not necessarily doing something that's super aggressive like a peel.
Or even with a derma plane, having a little bit of downtime there, there's no downtime with the customized facial, and it gives me time to really understand their skin and what they're looking for. So that's another one that's good for anybody. Especially just for time clients that come in to have a service where we can both understand what we're looking for.
Consultations and Trust
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Kristin Kienzle: Do you offer consultations for someone who doesn't know what they need? They have an idea of the results they desire, but they don't. Know what to pick on your menu.
Savannah Tasset: Definitely. Yes. So that is good. And I find that a lot of the time, that happens naturally before a service as [00:27:00] well, even if it's not a,
Kristin Kienzle: like a standalone.
Savannah Tasset: A standalone, yeah. Thank you. Mm-hmm. Not a standalone appointment. So that always happens naturally, and I wanna make sure I do that even with clients who are regular, just to make sure that nothing has changed with them. There's no medication changes or allergies that have come up. So definitely like spending time with the clients to make sure we're on the same page with everything.
That's good. Yeah.
Kristin Kienzle: That builds trust.
Savannah Tasset: Mm-hmm. For sure.
Advice and Wrap Up
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Kristin Kienzle: So as we wrap up, I wanna know what advice you would give to someone who is in a situation like you were, they're in a corporate job, their heart is in the beauty industry, and they're thinking about being brave or crazy as you are.
Right. And switching careers to get into something that they love and feel passionate about. What would your advice to that person be?
Savannah Tasset: To do it for sure.
Kristin Kienzle: Really?
Savannah Tasset: Yeah. I had a hard time for many months before I finally made the jump to leave [00:28:00] and was sitting in a lot of unhappiness and kind of just yearning to go back to something I knew that I loved and enjoyed.
So I wish it hadn't taken me quite as long as it did, but I'm so thankful that I did make that decision, even though I do feel just a little bit crazy, like we've talked about just making the big jump like this. But, you know, it's a different type of stress that I have. Now and a lot of the time it doesn't even feel like stress because it's something that I'm so passionate about and love.
So, yeah, I'm very thankful that I made the change.
Kristin Kienzle: You've traded the, the dissatisfaction of a day at work and a job that you're doing for the stress of. Starting and, and being at ground zero. Mm-hmm. But you know, you'll get there.
Savannah Tasset: Yes.
Kristin Kienzle: You know it, it will pay off. Whereas I guess maybe staying in the corporate position would've just prolonged your, for sure.
Your day to day disappointment.
Savannah Tasset: Yeah. Yeah.
Kristin Kienzle: Well, good for [00:29:00] you. I'm proud of you for making that leap. Thank you. I hope you've inspired other people to do so. Yeah,
Savannah Tasset: I do too. It's been really exciting for me. Yeah.
Kristin Kienzle: Well, thank you so much for doing this with me. Yeah. It's been so fun for me to hear the details of your journey. Of course, I knew a little bit about it. Mm-hmm. But I know a lot more about your journey and about you and the services you provide now, which I. Find very valuable.
Yeah. If someone's looking to get ahold of you, how, how would you like them to get in touch with you?
Savannah Tasset: Yeah, so you can find my Instagram, it's Serenity Skin Studio. You could probably find it through Utopia or if you go on my Instagram or Facebook serenity Skin Studio, you can reach out to me either on those platforms or send me a text or email.
That information is on there as well. So thank you for having me.
Kristin Kienzle: You're welcome. And it is easy to find you on our website if that's easier to go to Utopia and the Cranbrook location, and then you'll find Savannah.
Savannah Tasset: Perfect. [00:30:00] Thank you.