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#dogoodwork is not a label but a way of living.
It is the constant and diligent effort to achieve a new level of excellence in one’s own life.
It is the hidden inner beauty behind the struggle to achieve excellence.
It is not perfect but imperfect.
It is the effort, discipline and focus that often goes unnoticed.
The goal of this podcast is to highlight that drive.
The guests I have on this show emulate this drive in their own special way. You’ll be able to apply new ideas into your own life by learning from them.
We will also have 1on1 episodes with me where we’ll dive into my own experiences with entrepreneurship and leadership.
Every episode is designed to provide you with ideas that you can apply and grow in excellence in all areas of your life, business and career.
Do Good Work,
Raul
INTRO
Hey, welcome back to the podcast today.
I'm talking to Gene Zanetti.
Gene is a nationally ranked all Ivy
league wrestler who owns a sports
psychology consulting business, helping
athletes and business people get the
mental edge by overcoming mental blocks.
And he's on a mission to use
sports as a vehicle to build
mental skills and virtue for life.
PODCAST
Ian, welcome to the pod, man.
Thank you for having me.
I appreciate it, dude.
I heard you live.
And when I, every point that you've made,
I'm like, dude that's those are either
reflections that I've had or things that
I say, or even the ethos of this podcast.
So it's an honor to have you on man.
I appreciate you having me.
Yeah, my whole life as a wrestler.
I played sports all growing up.
Baseball, football, and wrestling, but it
was wrestling that fascinated me the most.
That one on one aspect that, you
could be as good as you want to be.
I always, I didn't like, and this goes
for me and both of my younger brothers,
the youngest who actually became a priest.
But it's like in team sports, you
could be slowed down by your team.
But, and maybe this is also what
drew me to be an entrepreneur as
a business owner, that you could
be as good as you want to be.
By the grace of God, of course,
and no man is an island, right?
Everyone needs a support system
and a team and you have to
have good people on your team.
But there's a greater You've
greater control of your destiny
when you're steering the ship.
And that's what I liked about wrestling.
Plus I can never sit still.
That's hilarious, man.
Let's talk about that.
I had an interesting conversation
with an entrepreneur.
He went solo recently, so he left
the corporate world, started his
own solo consulting practice.
He started the whole grind.
And it could be difficult
in the beginning.
Tell me there's a fine line
between what you can control
and what you can't control.
How do you really hone in either
with your athletes or with yourself?
The things that you can control, and
it takes a level of responsibility.
I want to get your take on what
we can control, how to address
that, and how to hit that head on.
It's a difficult balance because we
have these paradoxes going on, right?
We have to control every single thing we
can control, and then the things that we
can control, we just need to let them go.
That's tough to do when you're in
the mentality of control everything.
There's some people who do a very good
job of controlling all the little things,
but they're horrible at letting go.
On the other hand, there's
people who are the flip side.
They're very good at letting things
roll off, but they don't control things.
So striking that balance.
And I've been thinking about this a lot.
It's not just the.
striking a balance, a lot of times
it's finding that optimal point.
And sometimes that optimal point might
be much more like control every single
thing at like leaning much more into that.
And then on other times you got
to lean more towards letting go.
So I guess that maybe that all sounds
theoretical the way we look at it.
Everyone in the world all managers
coaches Teachers great leaders always
say focus on what you could control
forget about what you can't control
We've all heard that a thousand times.
That's not new news, especially
in a post covid world But how
do we get that message to stick?
Why are humans so notoriously bad?
at focusing on what they can
control, forgetting what they can't.
So one of the things we do in my sports
psychology business, wrestling mindset,
which I started, we work with all sports.
Wrestling is our bread and butter, but
we've worked with Fortune 500 companies,
Northwestern Mutual, Mass Mutual.
We worked at the Huntington Learning
Center, San Francisco Conservatory
of Music, all sports, about 30
UFC fighters, the Olympic team.
But again, we were wrestlers.
So that's the majority
of our clients are there.
We talk about the predator mindset.
You look in the animal kingdom,
there's predator and there's prey.
And how can you tell the
difference between a predator and
a prey just by looking at them?
For mammals, it's their eyes.
So if you look at the predators, the
lions, the tigers, the bears, oh my.
Their eyes are located on the
front of their head because
they're focused on what's in
front of them and what they want.
So we say eyes on the front like
to hunt and then the prey animals,
squirrels, chipmunks, rabbits, deer.
I don't know if we have any
hunters that watch, but their eyes
are on the side of their head.
So they're focused on what's
going on around them because
they don't want to get eaten.
So just like we say eyes on
the front like to hunt, we say
eyes on the side like to hide.
And that becomes a way to get this
message to stick a little bit more
with some more vivid mental imagery.
I want to be like a lion.
I don't want to be like
the gazelle, right?
I want to be, I want to be the predator.
I don't want to be the prey.
So it's never to be taken
literally this language.
It's a symbol.
It's symbolic that, we want
to have a predator mindset.
That means control the controllables.
Prey mindset is the things
outside of our control.
And I found that high performers in
sports, basically the happiest people
in the world, the holiest people in the
world, and the most successful people
in the world all share that in common.
They do a very good job at being able
to parse the two, controlling the
things they can control, forgetting
about the things they can't.
So that's the thing.
Like I said, that's just
a metaphor for life.
So that predator mindset, and we
could dive into each one of these, of
course, but just to give you a brief
overview, I consider the predator
mindset, the things we can control
our preparation and our lifestyle.
That's ongoing, basically 24 seven.
And then in those performance
moments, whether it's a competition,
job interview, sales call.
Now your preparation and your
lifestyle is basically whatever it is.
And now you can only focus on your effort,
your attitude, and your aggressiveness.
In sports, I say
aggressiveness in business.
I might call it being tactfully tenacious,
but it's basically the same thing.
You're going after it as
opposed to hanging back.
You're erring on the side of going for it.
Now, the prey mindset is focusing
on everything outside of my control.
What do other people think about me?
I want to look good in front of
other people, or I don't want to
look bad in front of other people.
It's focusing too much on the outcome.
Did I win?
Did I lose?
Did I get the sale?
You're asking the person
on a date, do they like me?
Am I attractive in their eyes, right?
It's all others oriented.
Yeah, and again, there's a healthy
balance like we can be aware of what
other people are thinking It's okay
to want to win the approval of others,
but that can't be our primary driver
So there's there's nuances even within
that but we don't want to be too focused
on the outcome We could set goals.
That's very important But on a day to day
basis, you should be focusing on executing
your action plan as opposed to I got to
achieve my goal I got to achieve my goal.
You don't need to hear that over and
over You need to focus on the steps
to get you there that roadmap to
success You When we compare ourselves
to other people, why are they married?
And I'm not, I am married
but we'll say this.
Why is he tall?
I'm not, why, we started our
business at the same time.
Why is their business more successful?
That's prey mindset, because I'm
comparing myself to other people
in a very not productive way.
I could compare myself to others in
a productive way, but a lot of times
when we do it, It's unproductive.
So that's just a brief overview of
that predator and prey mindset, which
is really nothing more than saying,
focus on what you could control.
Forget about what you can't control.
I'm sure that there's
a lot to unpack there.
That could be a long, that could be a two
hour conversation if you want it to be.
Yeah, no, to be honest with you, it
could be the interesting point here.
I want to dive deep here are the way that
I focus with clients and our businesses,
like tactfully are leading indicators.
Here's the things that we
can control and focus on.
The thing that you're pouring into that is
like the, I'm calling it like the liquid,
like the, cause it's, it pours in between
the cracks of the hard edges of KPIs.
Here's what we can do.
Here's our leading indicators.
Here's like our daily meet, like
the things that we focus on.
But I think here.
You're taking into account, which
I want to dive into the daily human
aspect of struggle, difficulty, self
doubt, weakness, tiredness, fatigue, not
hitting our goals or ideally actions.
So that's part of life.
Like the plan is perfect when you set
it, but when you go do it, you're like,
Oh like it didn't work out perfectly.
Cause nothing always works out a
hundred percent perfectly as planned.
There's always adjustments.
Always like life hits it.
So I'm curious to, to embed both of those.
philosophies around business
and exercise and or athleticism.
Obviously, like I'm not
a professional athlete.
I'm like an amateur here is
body like weightlifting, but now
training for an Ironman, like a 70.
3.
So tell me how we can,
because we're all one person.
Our mind is not separate from our body and
our body is not separate from our mind.
So how you show up at work is
how you show up at the gym.
But how do we take that same energy
Because when I did, I did a in a, an
international triathlon two weeks ago,
that was fricking fun, but it's also
that was the performance and the training
was like the months that led up to it.
But at work, it's I'm not going
to come here power through a 90
minute session of something like
it's a different way of showing up.
So I want the personal like for
me to know, but how do you train
the body to show up the same way
at work as it can into a, a sport.
But then also as we dive into
that, what are some of the habitual
practices that you work on with your
athletes and or your business people?
around how to practice focusing on the
predator mindset and not, the prey, right?
So with our mindset program, that predator
prey mindset, that's an exercise in and
of itself but it's mostly a framework,
a lens from which to view all of this.
So with sports psychology,
there's different.
We give our clients different
mindset exercises, right?
They're putting the pen to paper.
They're doing the worksheets.
We break them into different
mental muscles now, and we're
going into the nitty gritty That's
the meat and the potatoes, right?
So that's not just as simple as oh we have
a cute analogy there that people could
relate to now You're actually putting in
the work to oh, to get motivated, right?
Like motivation is would be an example
of one mental muscle confidence
would be another You Relaxing under
pressure would be another one.
Staying in the present moment.
Mental toughness.
Aggressiveness being tactfully tenacious.
Each one of those is, the way we look
at it, is a different mental muscle.
Now, of course, there's
some overlap there, right?
They're not mutually exclusive.
It's just helpful to break it down, to
get a little bit of a grip on our mind
and how to conceptualize all this, right?
Once you're doing the mindset
exercises, that's when you're
putting the pen to paper and you're
improving those different areas.
So it helps to pinpoint what
exactly am I looking to do.
And that predator and prey mindset
provides a general framework from which to
be doing all of this, if that makes sense.
That's like my perspective overall,
that predator and prey, it just makes
it maybe not the overall like life.
ontological perspective, like the faith
and morals, but it gives us a good way of
looking at things in terms of slicing or
making sense of how we think in terms of,
as you were saying now, what are we saying
really more like the staying motivated the
being able to bring out my best practices.
So the two questions, it was like
a two part question is number one.
How do you take that
same energy that you do?
Like when for example, for my
example of do the triathlon into
work, because it's different, I'm
literally in front of a screen.
There's no danger in front of me.
It's easy.
It's quote unquote easy.
It's just mental work.
And so it's a silly screen.
It's not like I'm in the water
or like I'm down on a bike.
So that's the first question.
Then the second question around
that is what are the habits that
you work with your athletes and or
business people to continue that,
I don't know, that frame of mind.
Yeah, it's it sounds a little bit like a
motivate if I had to bracket this inside
one mental muscle, which I know there's
always a lot going on, I think I'm looking
at it in terms of motivation, right?
And so motivation, there's a
few things with motivation.
The one point is, what is
the root word of motivation?
And that's motive.
What are motives for action?
So we know that our motives are basically
desiring the good, desiring some outcome
that's pleasurable in some way, not
necessarily physically pleasurable, but
desiring the good, and avoiding the evil.
Getting away from, basically
getting away from pain.
So those are the two drivers really for
all of our every action we take every
decision we make is how am I moving
towards the good towards something that
I want and how am I avoiding things that
I don't want right the bad so a lot of
times so it's both so mindset becomes
remove the negatives and or and maybe it's
not removing the negatives sometimes just
thinking differently about the negatives
instead of looking at it as a problem
no it's not a problem it's a challenge.
It's a very simple word
change you could make.
In your head that it's you didn't really
change anything physically, but what
you did is you reframed it, right?
People don't like problems
people like challenges, but
really it's the same thing.
You're overcoming some kind of obstacle
It's just how you're looking at it.
Even when we use the someone
goes to the doctor says Oh,
someone's responding to treatment.
That's a good thing, right?
What if they say he's reacting to the
treatment, usually a bad thing, right?
But it's basically the same.
Some kind of change is happening.
But it's like when we use the
words, I don't want to react.
I want to respond.
In work that's again a small change
we could make instead of using the
word worry Like i'm not going to
worry about this part of my business.
I'm going to worry about that part of my
business no, don't worry about anything.
Bible says don't worry about anything
So instead what do we focus on you
could take out the word focus from your
vocabulary and switch it to Take out the
word worry and switch it to focus And you
really don't have to use that word again.
I'm not going to focus on
this right now, my business.
I'm going to focus on that.
So now that's a much more superficial
like mindset exercise, but it's
incredibly helpful because the
words we use tend to be the first
link in the chain of how things go.
Our words impact our thoughts.
Our thoughts impact our behaviors.
Our behaviors impact our destiny.
So the way I speak to myself
consciously is going to start feeding
that unconscious mind as well, right?
That's a practical thing.
That's, maybe even more superficial,
but it still has a big impact.
Then also just being aware of how that
pleasure and pain is working inside of me.
If there is, if I don't want to pick
up, let's say we're doing sales calls.
Okay If I'm thinking about the
pleasure of make and pleasure, I'm
using that, not like I said, in
a much more broad sense, right?
Exactly.
So if I'm thinking about, okay, I could,
okay, the obvious is I can make money.
If I close the sale, I could help
change someone's life with my product.
If I make that sale, I could help
this person be a better person.
I like people.
I like interacting with people.
If I'm thinking like that, I'm
getting the pleasure to work for
me, and it's making me more, it's
giving me that motive, right?
Motivism, gain the
pleasure, avoid the pain.
I'm building that motive to make the call.
On the other hand, pleasure
could also be working against
me too, because you know what?
It would be easier for me to pick
up my theology book right now, and
I'd like to read a book right now.
And everything is, and
everything also is pretty calm.
Sometimes when I get on the phone, I
might get on with an annoying prospect.
It might be it might be frustrating.
It might go a lot longer than I
want So now you could start here.
It's not just the pleasure.
It's also the pain that starts to come
in So the pleasure and the pain in and
of themselves aren't bad They're just
part of the motives for action Like
I could use pain to work for me too.
I could say if I don't make these
calls I'm not gonna hit my goals.
I'm not gonna i'm gonna I'm going to
know deep down when I look at myself in
the mirror, I didn't give my very best.
I'm going to be maybe in some
ways letting my family down.
I'm not setting a good
example for my kids.
If I work from home and they
see me just hanging out.
That's not setting a good example
for them in terms of work ethic.
So now I could make pain, once
pain and pleasure are the drivers,
you could make them work for
you or against you in any way.
That requires some thinking.
You have to actually sit down with that
and it's helpful to write it out on paper.
What are my current pleasure and
pain hooks in relation to something?
And then if I want to change the behavior,
how can I have new and empowering
pleasure and pain hooks towards that?
Let's say McDonald's.
When I, when I became a personal
trainer years ago, I'm still
not, I'm not doing that.
But when I was doing that, a lot
of the personal trainers would
say, Oh, McDonald's is disgusting.
And I'm like, I'm not like you there.
I loved McDonald's when I was a kid.
I'd love McDonald's right now.
I don't think it's disgusting.
I get it that it's not nutritional,
but I would love to have a double
quarter pounder, which he is
right now in the fries, large fry.
If I'm thinking about the taste,
I'm going to be, that's going to
help drive me in that direction.
If I think about the pain of,
oh, I got to eat this salad and
chicken when I could eat McDonald's.
There's pain associated with that.
Instead, I want to get the
pleasure and pain working for me.
Okay, the pain, it's, it
tastes good for a second.
It's like moment on the lips, lifetime
in the hips, as I would tell the people
in the group fitness class, or you,
you eat it, but then there's what?
Insulin spike, carbo crash,
you're all mentally weirded out
for the next hour and a half.
So I'm building up the pain there.
And then what about the pleasure?
Making the good decision making the
conscious decision to eat well, there's a
certain we could delight properly In that
virtue like I made a good decision there.
I feel good about that.
I have more energy So making
pain and pleasure work for you.
I know we're diving into both but I
wanted to give you I wanted to give
you one example of simple word changes
You could make that are incredibly
practical and then diving into
the more deeply like psychological
hooks that are under put that are,
Drivers of basically all of this.
Those are just a couple of examples.
No, and I, and they're one, it's simple
enough and they're wonderful, but it's
really complex when you go deep into it.
But I think the key takeaway here is
for whatever you're going through right
now, whatever you think are behaviors
that you know, you need to change, but
you're not changing them, but they're
not happening, I think going through this
exercise, just writing down that behavior
in a title and then going through, why
am I doing this, what am I gaining from
this that I love or feel like it makes it
feel comfortable, but what am I actually
losing from this and then doing the flip.
What is, how can you use it,
the pain to motivate you?
And again, working sort
of some greater good.
Now the question here, it's a, it
begs the question of willpower, right?
Okay.
Let's say, let's use your
example of the salad.
Okay.
The salad is great.
It's better for me.
I'm going to have longevity of life and
probably have lower cholesterol whatever.
Okay, great.
But then you still have
to have that energy.
So do you believe in willpower?
Is the willpower something that's part
of us, part of the motive, part of the
execution, or is it something that.
You don't have to have willpower
if you've conditioned your
mind to just seek the good.
It's it's part of being human, right?
Our and living in a fallen world
Obviously are a lot of times our
desires are raging against us and
you know There's the temptation our
appetites that are working against us.
We it gets easier It
definitely gets easier.
Once you build a habit like we know I
don't always feel like exercising, right?
But because it's been a part of my life
for so long, if I don't exercise for a day
or two, okay, maybe a day would be okay.
Two or three days, I'm
starting to feel crummy.
Why?
For a lot of people, it feels
crummy to exercise, period.
Because you built a habit, so
now it's become more part of you.
So there's still a willpower there because
you don't always feel like exercising.
And it's the same thing with our
eating, with our executing our
action plan at work, and our career.
There is something, there's something
real about that momentum and good habits.
So our habits end up forming
us for better and for worse.
So we really want to keep an eye out on
What are our current habits, and what
habits do I need, I don't want to say
need, not I have to do this, but I get
to do this instead of using the word
should, have to, must, need to, ought
to, gotta, instead it's better to use
words like I want to, I get to, I choose
to you don't have to, all you have to
do is pay taxes and die, you don't even
have to pay the taxes, you just go to
jail so you could the point is there's
very few things you actually have to do.
You remind yourself that you get to do it.
So I think that's, that, that's also
helpful to look at it that way too.
Yeah.
And I think it's a, what you're
really hitting at is the development
of virtue through that action.
And over time that virtue becomes
like the backbone of your behaviors.
And we use the word behavior earlier,
look at the behaviors you don't like,
but I think deeper would look at the
habits, just as behaviors done over a
period of time, even if it's four days.
Is it exactly and we've and we find it
takes in order to really start getting
a habit really built What I heard was
it takes between 21 and 28 days So what
does that tell you that means those first
21 to 28 days might be a lot, painful
Uncomf at very least maybe not painful,
but very uncomfortable And we have to
have the willingness to push through it,
and that might be where you need to do
things to get yourself more motivated
like you were saying, even with work.
So with motivation there's two,
two words that were common are
commonly associated with that
enthusiasm and excitement, right?
Enthusiasm.
E N.
It's a prefix, right?
We're getting into English here.
That's the that's, that means from within.
Enthusiasm.
It's coming from within.
Enthusiasm.
And then there's excitement, EX.
That means from, without,
from the outside coming in.
So we want to have both of those, right?
So we do need to, we need to work on
building enthusiasm within ourselves
but at times it's helpful to have the
excitement coming from the outside, right?
So having the goal setting and, our
short term goals, our long term goals,
and more importantly than the goal is
the why, way more important than your
goal is why do you want to have this?
And hopefully it's ultimately
ordering you towards it.
The ultimate destination, right?
Ultimately towards God, but even
at a natural level, that like
it's got to go through to there
and having a higher purpose.
Even you say like a doctor just
wants to, they want to be a
doctor to make a lot of money.
They're probably not going to do as well
as the doctor who's really trying to save
lives and improve people's overall health.
Even if the one person does
end up making more money, who
do you ultimately want to see?
You want to see this, right?
You want to see the person
who's trying to change lives.
So really examining our why.
Why do we want this?
So that's like from within.
And then from the outside, then
we have our motivation buttons,
if you want to call them.
So this is where it gets extra.
The other one is like
the more soul searching.
What do I really want and why?
Takes a little bit of time, right?
Then from the outside it's
maybe a little bit easier, but
you want to plan that out too.
Like we all have buttons, if
you want to call them that.
Pep peeves.
We all have things that make us
mad, that aggravate us, right?
We also have motivational buttons.
What are certain things that
happen that make us motivated?
We there's different buttons
that make us happy, that make
us sad, that make us motivated.
So what you want to do is
you want to identify what has
worked for you in the past.
And what else do you think might work
for you songs a little youtube video
clips it could be pictures or images
and then that's like the excitement
from the outside that's why a lot of
gyms motivational posters you have
motivational playlists it's like It's
more like superficial in the sense that
it's coming from the outside, but it
still helps you if it helps push you.
One other point I want to make
back to what you were saying
before about the difference between
maybe running an hour marathon, an
Ironman versus maybe coming to work.
It's a different thing.
And I don't think you need to
feel, you don't need to feel
like there's something wrong.
You or any of us, right?
I don't get the same feel when I work
or when I make a sales calls I do
before I would take the mat to wrestle.
That's okay.
Like we don't have to feel
there's nothing wrong.
There's nothing necessarily like
I think that's important to know
there's nothing deficient in us
It's just a different thing one.
It's thrilling in a way that work
isn't But we can find other ways which
work is fulfilling that is not either.
Yeah.
That the marathon or the iron
man or my wrestling match
in the past would have been.
So just an important point.
No, I think that's important in, in,
in terms of not comparing the two, but
also seeing I think using the words
that you mentioned, like, how do I see
the work differently in an approach?
Cause I think that the competition
is the reward of the training
that in itself is there.
But what is the reward here in a
day to day just to switch gears.
And if, before we close, it probably
won't be substantially different from
from a lot of the things that we know
just top of mind, but I'd be very curious
to see what are you seeing either with
your athletes or your private clients?
What are some of the common
bigger struggles that we're
facing now post pandemic?
Is there a common theme, themes that we're
That people are getting blocked from or
issues that you're having people to work
through or different types of mental
models or exercises that people need more
of nowadays than they did in the past.
Do you, are you seeing
any trends on your end?
Number one, speaking spiritually, number
one, these are kind, and there's, these
are still more evergreen topics, right?
This would have been just as
true before the pandemic, in some
ways things have gotten worse.
Yeah.
So I think we have to have
our eyes on the big picture.
That's why we say, you know My
Catholic faith is very important
to me and looking at what is
why is it that we do the things?
That we do what's the ultimate purpose?
So that's huge right and when I look
at the lowest of the lows when I would
study in psychology like suicide, right?
I don't take that lightly.
Two of the two of the there's eight or
nine warning signs of suicide point
is this those are not on equal ground
Two of those are causative and the
other ones are effects purposelessness
and hopelessness are at the root
Those are causes mood change anger
Appetite change those are more effects.
The cause is purposelessness
and hopelessness.
You take away god you take away
faith Where's your purpose?
Where's your hope?
And you can have, like a surface
level purpose or hope, but if it's not
ultimately rooted in something that's
unchangeable, you're on very rocky ground
because you could change your mind one
day to the next day and you realize that.
As a human, you realize
okay that's not very stable.
If I'm making up my own meaning,
my meaning could change.
What good is that?
I want something that's fixed,
that's decided, that won't change.
I want to be built solid on a rock.
So we need to have purpose and hope.
And that's what ultimately
faith gives us, right?
And then number two, I would still
have to say the predator prey mindset
that we spoke about, because that is
a big thing that still gets people
in terms of what do we control?
What can we actually control and
maybe an offshoot of that would
be like an entitlement, right?
And an excuse making a natural
tendency for people to criticize,
blame, complain, point the finger.
I would still lump that into
prey mindset for simplicity.
Yeah.
Putting the responsibility on myself.
I need to suck it up and get tough.
And no, I can't do it alone.
I need God's help, but I can't be
pointing the finger at other people.
I can't be saying it's your problem.
It's your problem.
No.
It's on me.
I need to take personal
responsibility, which is huge.
So I think that a lot of times also
is a big thing that slows people down.
We do have to learn to
offer it up and get tough.
Sometimes that means being a
little bit hard on ourselves.
Two things.
You have to be simultaneously your
best friend and your harshest critic.
Not easy to do.
Yeah, I think most of the people
have the harshest critic on.
At least I do most of the time.
I don't know if most people, I don't
know, because I feel like there's
some people who do a really good job
being their harshest critic, they're
horrible at being their best friend.
There's other people who are very easy on
themselves, and they're not their hard,
and they need to be harder on themselves.
And so it's again, not just balance,
but finding that optimal point.
If you're having a bad day, business
didn't go well, you in wrestling, it's
like you're cutting weight, you lost
a match, and then just when you think
things are going to get, couldn't get
any worse, you found out your girlfriend
ran off and left you for the drummer.
You're having a bad day.
Probably not a good day to
be your harshest critic.
Probably a good day to
be your own best friend.
And then at other times where you're
feeling a little either tired, bored,
lazy, or peer pressured to doing, to
compromising either faith and morals
or your path, the path to success,
your action plan, that's the time where
you need to be a little bit harder on
yourself and say, no, it's time to get
tough, I gotta throttle down I'm ready.
Suck it up and get tough.
You could do this, it's being both best
friend and harshest critic So I think
that's all at play now with what people
need to With what people need to see
because I do think we're the generations
are getting softer and i'm sure they
have been for a While i'm sure our
general generation was probably softer
than the one that came before us So
we just need to keep that in our head
and you know a predator mindset focus
on what I could control We'll offer
it up and get tough I love that, man.
The beautiful dichotomy there.
Gene, for everyone listening to you, it
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