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John:Ever wondered how you could turn your side hustle into a full time gig and spend more time together?
Vikki:Hi. I'm Vicky, a number one best selling author.
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John:So we're here in Tulum, Mexico.
Vikki:Yeah. Look at this background. This is on our patio.
John:Yeah. They gave us this giant terrace attached to our room. It has a hammock. It's massive, like, area out here. I don't even know what you'd call it.
John:Gorgeous. And it's got, you can't see it, but behind it and on the side, they have, like, little planters. They have a palm tree in the corner. Yeah. We overlook, like, the main street that goes through.
John:So we, we have a it's a corner room, so we have windows on both sides of our room. So we have this beautiful view, and we're on the Top Floor, which is only only four floors. Right? But all the buildings here are low. I mean, I think that's as high as they can build.
John:Yeah. That must be.
Vikki:Must be because nothing's higher
John:than ours. Yeah. There's a few other hotels that are about the same height. But what's really nice is we have this crazy view, like, go looking that way, it's all jungle. It's just all green jungle.
John:And past jungle, it's the ocean.
Vikki:Yeah. What a cool place. Very cool. So if you've never been to Tulum, you should check it out. It's very close to Cancun.
John:Yeah.
Vikki:In fact, they have their own airport now, but you can fly into Cancun Airport over Tulum Airport.
John:What we did. We flew into, Cancun because it's a bigger airport. So we're able to get a nonstop in here. But then it's, like, an hour and a half, two hour drive. Yeah.
John:But even from their own Tulum Airport, people are telling us it's an hour drive.
Vikki:Yeah. That's true. Yeah.
John:And if you're gonna if you think you might wanna come here to Tulum, and if you haven't been and you think you wanna see it, I would say do it sooner rather than later because we were here three years ago, and it looks completely different, at least the the downtown area, the the Tulum City.
Vikki:Right. Exactly. And we've talked
John:to a bunch of locals because we spent a couple of days here. And we've talked to a couple of some of those locals and actually several of them, and they all feel the same way that, because Tulum is now on the map for tourism, it was kinda like maybe Mexico's One of their best kept secrets. And now so many people know about it, especially with their airport coming in. There are hotels being built. There are new new restaurants and bars, and they're really building the place up, and it's losing, I think, some of its its charm.
Vikki:Yeah. So come. It's very cool. Yeah. So
John:Yeah. How did we end up here, Vic?
Vikki:Well, we, we earned a all expense paid trip, including airfare, all food, all drinks to the Hilton, Riviera Maya? No. Yeah. Hilton Tulum. And, with our company, Neora.
Vikki:So, we're starting that adventure tomorrow, but we yeah. We came the two days early that John mentioned because we like to do that because we can.
John:Yeah. Right? And then three years ago, we are in the same trip, but it was to the Tulum Conrad
Vikki:Yeah.
John:Out here. So it's they're next door to each other. It's in the hotel zone, big resorts. I'm pretty sure those are private beaches they're on.
Vikki:Yeah. Definitely.
John:But, yeah, that's that's another reason why we do what we do. Like, people don't really understand. I think some of our friends don't really understand why we do it. Yeah. This is one of the perks.
John:Right? To get an all and when they say all expense paid, they mean it.
Vikki:Yeah.
John:Like, they could share it. Airfare was paid for. All of our drinks, all of our food.
Vikki:Transportation, tunes.
John:Yeah. Transfers from the airport to the hotel and back to the airport again. All included.
Vikki:Yeah. Yeah. It's really amazing. And, you're just building your business this at the same time you're earning these trips. So it's actually helping you.
Vikki:They almost, I don't wanna say trick, but they, like, put this incentive out there, this carrot. They dangle this carrot. But truthfully, it's growing your business so you're better off anyway, and you earn the trip. It it's floors me, the people that really don't go after earning these trips
John:Yeah.
Vikki:Because it just makes your business that much stronger. You know?
John:Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you, you mean you don't like the trip. Let's say you say, I don't really like Mexico or I don't like going to an to an all ex on an all expense paid vacation or whatever. And if you don't like that, at the end of the day, if you earn the trip, you've built your business to the point where you're actually making more money in your with your business.
John:So your business is in a better position anyhow.
Vikki:Right. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. And, you know, but what's interesting, we've seen all types of entrepreneurs while we're here.
Vikki:We were we were walking around today in the town, and we would walk into a place to have something to eat. And you'd see a solo entrepreneur on his laptop, you know, having coffee and working from Tulum. I was gonna say from home, from Tulum. Mhmm. And then we went into another restaurant and the wait the waiter talked about that.
Vikki:That there's a bunch of nomad entrepreneurs, basically, working from wherever they want to. And how cool is that?
John:Yeah. It's kinda like the the, I don't know, like, the the thing to do. Right? If you're gonna work, who who wants to be stuck in a cubicle or whatnot? And if you if that's what you're doing and if you like it, then great.
John:I personally wouldn't wouldn't really enjoy that. I'd rather be sitting in a coffee shop somewhere, whether it's Tulum, whether it's in The Dominican Republic, wherever. Europe. Yeah. Doing your work while you sit there and and sip your coffee or whatever.
John:And Yeah. We did that this morning. We were both on our on our laptops. I was out here out in the little our little terrace in the morning with, with mine and a cigar. Yeah.
John:And my laptop and just getting caught up on things.
Vikki:Yeah. And then I was still I I like to sit in the bed and look out over the out the window. We saw the sunrise from our window, and I'm just answering a few emails Yeah. Posting a little bit on social media, doing a few work related things. Yeah.
Vikki:It's it's really amazing when you can work from anywhere. Yeah.
John:Just grateful that we can do that.
Vikki:Yeah. Yeah. So do you have any tips for people that are looking to do something like that?
John:Well, you know, I would look at like, there are so many companies that offer incentive trips, and I think it would be smart to talk to some of the people who are involved before you get involved in the in the companies, talk to the people who've earned the trips and and just find out how because you've been involved. Tell tell us about, one of the other companies you were involved with and how difficult it was to earn the trip for two, not just for one, but for two people. Right.
Vikki:And I was even gonna go back to that other their original company that it was almost impossible to earn the
John:trip. Absolutely.
Vikki:But let's talk about the one prior to, Neora, where we are now, was a traditional, direct sales company that made it so you had to sell in product, over, like, dollars 21,000 in sales to earn a trip for one. And, yes, it was over the course of that was over the course of three months. So, actually, it's a short period of time. That's that's selling $7,000 and my company was candles. So you were selling 7,000 a month.
Vikki:And mind you, it's not repeat business usually. When you're selling candles, they tell you, oh, people will burn them and need more and they'll buy from you. But generally, it was they would they would, host a show or buy from you every six months. So you're not gonna have repeat businesses necessarily. You could, but you really didn't.
Vikki:So that 7,000 was new volume over those three months. They did require that you had to sponsor somebody into the business with you in that company. Where we are now, that's not the case. You don't have to sponsor anybody into the business. You, can do it on sales.
Vikki:And it is 20 it was 20,000, I believe it was. Actually, it was 23. 20 3 thousand for two. Actually, it might have been 24. But anyway, for two instead of one.
Vikki:And mind you also that, 21,000 for one person in my previous company was twelve and a half years ago.
John:So it would probably be more now.
Vikki:23, 20 4 more now.
John:But here's the here's the trick. It would be more now if they still had the same compensation plan that they did before. Right. But they no longer do because they've acquiesced to the FTC. They've completely changed how they pay their their distributors, and that's no longer the case.
John:But going back to what you were saying about it was twenty one thousand twelve years ago to earn the trip for one. Right. And then what was it to earn the second trip? Was it half of that? Was it a quarter of that volume?
John:What was it?
Vikki:Good question. John's teeing me up properly here. It was the same again to earn for John to come.
John:2,000.
Vikki:Yeah. And what's funny is my parents knew this, and they, they were like, oh, great. Like, they would see it see me halfway through the trip earning. And so have you earned what, you know, the trip? And I'd say, well, yeah, I earned I've made my spot, but we either have to pay for John to go or I have to earn his the guest position.
Vikki:And he's like, oh, okay. So John's probably gonna swim too. Where was he? My mom would joke about that. But, yeah, it's crazy.
Vikki:So, most companies, actually, I should say most companies are kind of switching to an affiliate model. So, most are not even doing trips anymore. And Neora is staying strong, never switching to an affiliate model, committed to the direct sales model. Our CEO, Jeff Olson, made a public declaration that he will never, leave the direct sales industry and will not switch to an affiliate model ever. And so and he's not gonna change what's working.
Vikki:What's working is these trips motivate people.
John:Yeah.
Vikki:They really do.
John:So like I was saying, to get back to the original the answer to the original question, like Vic was saying, tips. I would look into if you're looking at a company and if they have an incentive plan, is the incentive plan really feasible? Is it something you can do? And especially if you wanna bring a guest, is it something you can do and bring a guest without really trying to kill yourself doing it? And then I guess the other the other question I would have to ask myself too is, is the company gonna be around?
Vikki:Yeah.
John:Right? And and that's something that I think most most companies will not, at least not in the form that you see them today. They either don't have the money to fight the Federal Trade Commission or they're just gonna not want to fight them, which I I get it. Right? You're fighting it's like David versus Goliath.
John:Right? You've got the the federal government and they have unlimited resources and that's what Jeff Olson faced when he took on the FTC and said, no. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna acquiesce. I'm gonna put my foot down. What I'm doing is legal.
John:It's right. It's right for the people involved and I'll fight you. I'll fight you for years in court and spend tens of millions of dollars out of my own pocket to fight you on this. And he did. Yeah.
John:And he won every point. Every there were five major points, in the lawsuit with the FTC, and Neora won all five. Yeah. Hands down, no questions. Federal judge in federal court ruled for Neora, and it's a nationwide actually, a global wide ruling that we can continue doing business the way we've been doing business.
John:We don't have to make any changes. And so that's great. So I look at these incentive trips and they're gonna continue year after year after year, and we both know they're not they're they're not easy. Yeah.
Vikki:You have to work. Right. You have to do work.
John:But that's that's the way it is. Right? It's kinda you've got to put work in for anything in life and that's what makes life worthwhile. Right. It's putting in the work.
John:So we know that's gonna happen. How many trips have you earned? Gosh. Around the Aura. Only when
Vikki:Around the Aura. So I've been here twelve and a half years, and I've earned every trip that's been available to me. So the first year, it was only for the top, people in the company. They had kind of the old model of the national marketing director level. Those are the people that go.
Vikki:And, you know, as we had just started, it was like six months in. Of course, we're running for national marketing director. We didn't quite hit it. We had hit the level regional marketing director just below it. But I'm the type that keeps running, run past the goal, run past first base.
Vikki:Right? Like your coach always tells you. And so I was gonna run past the goal, and the time ended, for the cutoff to hit NMD, and I didn't achieve it. I was close, but not there. No cigar.
Vikki:And then they announced the company decided, you know what? Let's bring the regional marketing directors. They worked really hard and invite them on the trip. So that actually, technically, that first year that I should have been a national marketing director, just missed it. I went on the trip.
Vikki:So that was 02/1415. So I believe this is our thirteenth trip. Wow.
John:I know. Yeah. And then you brought up a point that I was gonna make too about about how they changed, how Neora changed, how you earn the trip. Because in the following year, the second year that Vicky was involved in Neora, she didn't make national marketing director that NMD rank, and then so we were on the trip. And that's how it was for several years.
John:You earn the trip based on your rank. Well, then, the company shifted gears and made a little pivot, and they, they've made a decision that it shouldn't be ranked based. It should be effort based so that the brand newest person starting from day one should be able to earn the trip if they try hard enough, if they work hard, if they plug in, if they're dedicated and and and and involved. And so what we found is get on these trips and, like, it'll be no different once we once we arrive at the, at the Hilton Resort when the when the incentive trip actually kicks off tomorrow that we've asked people, and we find that I think the majority of the people that earn the trip are in their first year.
Vikki:Yeah. It's crazy.
John:That's cool.
Vikki:Crazy cool. Yeah. Yep. That's what it should be.
John:The opportunity is there for everyone. You don't have to be grandfathered in. And and Vic made up she made a a a we were talking earlier, and she, kind of talked about another our original company we were with, Amway. And they had incentive trips, and there was no way we were gonna earn that. In fact, the only people that were on the incentive trips were the the ones that had been involved for ten, twenty, thirty, forty years.
Vikki:The diamonds, which is same as national marketing director.
John:Because we found that it was we felt and it's not that it's impossible to reach that, but it was next to impossible. And we worked we worked our asses off. We worked hard. And
Vikki:There was no way. We weren't, yeah,
John:we weren't eating that elephant. We weren't getting there. And we finally realized that, hey. Some of these great incentive trips and these great bonuses that they paid were never gonna be paid down to the brand newest member. And there's certainly I don't think anyone that can be in their first year of Amway and and earn that trip, at least back in the day.
John:I don't know if they've changed I
Vikki:think it's the same.
John:Culture now. Yeah. But and it's not that there's anything wrong with Amway, but I'm just telling you, if you wanna do go on some of these trips and and really, and partake in some of the benefits in these of these companies, what they have. I don't know that there's another company like Neora where you can actually earn it in your first year. Yeah.
John:Another big incentive is a car bonus. So we earn a Lexus car bonus. So since that first year you were involved, because you earned the car bonus within about, like, months.
Vikki:Three months. Yeah. And that's the plan that in your first three months, you can hit the car bonus. And so the minute I figured that out, and three months later, we got it.
John:Yeah. And so since that time, so for the last, what, twelve years, we haven't had a we've had a new Lexus that we don't have to pay. Yeah. It's paid for by Neora. And that was one of the things that they've always I I respected them so much because they said that from the very beginning on that one that the car bonus would be available to someone who's brand new.
Vikki:Right. You don't have to be The top person.
John:Yeah. Yeah. The the head Top dog.
Vikki:The the
John:the exalted guru, you know, the that's been involved for forever to to get that car bonus. A brand new person can get it. So that's really cool. So that's what I guess that would be my my tip is, like, do some research, check it out because whatever you decide to do, if you're gonna do it, you need to do it. Right?
John:Right. You're not just testing the water. If you're gonna do it, get in and do it. And if you're gonna do it, you wanna you want to involve your time. You wanna spend your time because it's time away from your family.
John:It's time and effort you're gonna put into your business. You wanna do that in a business that's that has that's gonna be around and it's gonna incentivize you. It's gonna pay you back. It's gonna be what you want. Right?
John:And so that's why I say do some research, check it out, And if it's Neora, great. If it's not Neora, then that's good too. That's fine. But at least you know.
Vikki:Right. Absolutely. And don't hesitate to reach out to us. Our information is in the show notes. We would love to sponsor you into the business and mentor you.
Vikki:But if somebody from our team has shared this with you, definitely go with them because guess what? You get them and us as your mentors. You get the friend that that shared it with you.
John:Like we said on an on an on an earlier episode, it's just like we love this industry and we loves the good companies that are involved in this industry. There's lots of companies. Yeah. But we like the we love the good companies that are involved like Neora because the company has the same philosophy that we do and that, many of the other leaders in Neora have is that we want to help you. Right.
John:We it it doesn't help us if we can't help you. Right. That's what it's all about, is helping the brand newest person, earn that, earn that Lexus. Right? Right.
John:And we usually try and go to the dealership with them when they pick out their car. We do. That is so much fun. Because they're so excited. They get to pick out their brand new Lexus.
John:We do Lexus field trips with the whole team Yeah.
Vikki:Where every go while people are running.
John:Yep. Yeah. And then it it just so and it's it's so rewarding to have, like, a really a new person of the in their first year. Maybe it's their second year. But a new a new brand partner that's earned this incentive trip for the first time, and they're, you know, they're just in awe.
John:It's like, wow.
Vikki:When that happens, we meet them at the front. We find out when their flight's coming in. We go to the front. We hug them. We take pictures with them and the executive team at Neora.
Vikki:I know. Yeah. It is so special. So so special.
John:You know, if that's something that's missing in your life, if if, you if you want to be a part of something like that, reach out to us because you can, and we would welcome you in with open arms. We'd love to just lock arms with you and run.
Vikki:We're never too busy. Yeah. Yeah.
John:And and see if we can help you earn a trip like this, earn that car. Then they say, what what's the what's the highest in in most American households, what's the number one highest payment that they have?
Vikki:The mortgage or rent is number one.
John:And what's number two?
Vikki:Their car payment. Yeah.
John:Yeah. Isn't that cool if you can take the second biggest payment that most Americans have and just wipe that out? Make that a zero. Right? They don't have a car payment anymore.
Vikki:Yeah.
John:And they're not and it's not like you don't have a car payment and you're buying it and you're driving a Yugo. Right? You don't have a car payment and you're driving a Lexus luxury vehicle.
Vikki:Yeah. And then you next thing you know, though the person you helped earn the car, they're helping someone on their team earn the car or two or three people. And before you know it, then they're national marketing director themselves and bringing thousands into their family household where they can pay the mortgage.
John:Yeah. Right. And it's something that's sustainable. It's gonna be here next year, the year after that. It's been twelve years for us or over twelve years for us.
John:It's gonna be another twelve plus years for us because The new product that's coming too. New product, which you can talk about in a second here, but I was just gonna say that because no one's gonna take that from us. Because the company philosophy is they want us to to prosper. They want us to thrive, and the government can't do a thing about it because they've already tried and they've lost. So this is something that's sustainable.
John:This is something that we're gonna have for many, many years, and we can will our business to our kids.
Vikki:Yes. That was the biggie when we joined. We wanted to join something, create something as we've done, and leave it to our heirs. Right? Truly create that legacy.
John:Right. Yeah. Okay. Well, were you gonna say that?
Vikki:Yeah. And I think we have to be quick because I can't believe we're getting this cloud cover and it may have to start raining on us. Yeah. We're running out of light.
John:I wish you guys could see these clouds.
Vikki:It's gorgeous.
John:The sun setting, the clouds are turning color, which is amazing.
Vikki:Too bad we can't turn the camera. But, yes. So April is coming very soon. So you might be listening to this after April. That's great.
Vikki:But if you're listening to us before April, now's the time to get involved. In our first year in business, we had one product in one country. That's all we had, one product in one country. We did $100,000,000 in sales. I want you to let that sink in.
Vikki:100,000,000. If you watch Shark Tank and you see these, inventors and business owners go on and share their, you know, their business model, what they've done, if they've even come close to a million in one year, the sharks are all taking notes, paying attention, and in most cases, they wanna go in on it together. Mhmm. 1,000,000. So imagine if we walked on Shark Tank showing our 100,000,000, everybody would want in on the deal where this April, we're coming out with a second product, hero product that has never been seen before in the industry.
Vikki:We are gonna do more than that 100,000,000 in sales. It's the second rebirth of Neora. Our CEO is beside himself and he's the type of guy that under sells and over delivers, under promises over delivers. And for him to stick his neck out there and tell us, guys, this is it. This we could start a whole new company with this product, and they're not choosing to start a whole new company.
Vikki:They could. They could. But they're giving it to Neora, and we're ready to launch come April. But you wanna come to our conference in April. That's when they're launching it.
Vikki:You wanna get started now. You wanna start building your prelaunch team so that you all go to conference together, learn more about the company, learn, you know, feel the excitement, see the heart truly. When you come to our conferences, you're gonna see the heart of Neora. And, that's what you really wanna that's our best advice right now. We're we are telling anyone and every one of our closest friends, because we don't want anyone left behind.
Vikki:It truly is. It's like Yahoo like, seeing Google, You know, when you could invest back in the day when Google is nothing, how many other companies too that you can make?
John:Tons of them. Like, you think about Apple. Right? If you could go back, turn turn back the the hands of time and invest in Apple. But then again, think about it.
John:As far as I if I remember correctly, we did a hundred million dollars in our first year. It took Apple, I believe, seven years to reach a hundred million dollars in one year. We beat everybody. Yeah. We were one of the we were one of the fastest, and then we went to a billion dollars, and we were one of the fastest companies in the world to have ever done that.
Vikki:Yeah. I believe that was under four years or under five years, and now we're over 2,000,000,000.
John:Yeah. So So And then Yeah. Vicky brought up a a really good point about you want I'm not gosh. I don't wanna sound like we're we're, like like, we're all that. But, really, you want us as your mentors, especially Vicky, because, like, Vicky was just talking about, about strategy.
John:Right? If if this new product launch is coming out in April, you don't wanna wait till April to get started. You wanna get started now. You wanna you wanna start building that team and you really wanna build that strategy. Vicky knows this.
John:She's done this many times, and she knows how to help you to to help you maximize, your potential in building that team prelaunch. Right. And that's so important because I know there's gonna be so many people that are gonna wait until launch and say, well, I want a part of it. And they're still gonna do well. Right.
John:But you could do exponentially better if you'd if you'd strategize the proper prelaunch.
Vikki:Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. It's so true. So it's exciting times, guys.
Vikki:Yep. If if a friend of yours has reached out to to you about Neora, listen to them. Yep. You know, trust that they have your best interest at heart. That's what I'm telling you because we're not telling everybody.
Vikki:That's the other thing. You know, we are kind of Right. We're careful.
John:Because we can't work with everyone.
Vikki:Yeah. And we've talked about that on other podcast. We want ethical, quality, integris people on our team. So if we're reaching out to you, that means we think highly of you. And same with your friend that's reaching out.
Vikki:Not just, oh, gosh. They're trying to get me. Because honestly, I can speak from experience. I used to think when friends would share a business, I thought, oh, they're trying to get me.
John:Right.
Vikki:But that's not the case here. We're telling you something that can change your life as it has ours.
John:Yeah. For sure.
Vikki:So But, yeah.
John:Definitely get back with the person who who, has have has invited you on. If you're if you're interested, if you go to bed tonight and you don't give it another thought, you wake up in the morning and you even forgot what what you watched last night or whatever it is, and it probably isn't for you.
Vikki:Yeah. Right? But if
John:you go to bed still thinking about it, and if you're lying in bed thinking, well, what if? What if? Well, then let's find out what if. Right? Right.
John:Let's do that because I think I think maybe the most, the pain of regret, right, is always the worst.
Vikki:Yeah.
John:Exactly. And this thing, if this this is gonna this train will leave the station with or without you. And I don't think, at least I know for me for speaking from just personal experience, there have been a number of opportunities that I've seen leave the station without me, and I've always regretted that. I always thought, gosh darn it. Why didn't I make that decision?
John:Why didn't I just go go with it and look where I could have been? And then, like, for this, we made a decision and said, yes. We're gonna jump on board this train before it pulls out of the station. We're gonna be a part of it. And I thank God every day that we did.
John:I do too. I do too. Right. So I guess the other piece of advice would be, make a decision. Right?
John:Don't like like I was always told, you can make you there's three three things you can do. Right? You can make the right decision, you can make the wrong decision, or you can make no decision. Right? And the worst of the three is making no decision.
John:Because even if you make the wrong decision, you can learn from it and you can avoid making the wrong decision the next time. If you make no decision, there's nothing to learn from that.
Vikki:Right? You failed immediately.
John:That's just that is making no decision is an utter and complete failure. It's how I look at it. So if you think about it, if tonight you're still thinking about it, then I'd say, you know what? That decision's been made. Then I think you need to to to jump on board and see where this takes you.
John:Thanks. I'll tell you, you won't be sorry.
Vikki:Yeah. Definitely not. It'll be the best decision you ever made in your life.
John:Yep. So we're gonna we're gonna take off because happy hour is gonna end soon.
Vikki:They have
John:a rooftop, infinity pool and bar and. Yeah.
Vikki:And you could join us next year. We would love that. We'll buy you a drink.
John:Yeah. For sure.
Vikki:Alright. Thanks for joining us. Reach out to us. Screenshot this. Post this in your story.
Vikki:We'll reshare it. It's been fun being with you guys today. Yep. Alright. You guys.
Vikki:Bye.
John:Bye bye.
Vikki:Thanks for joining us on Dig the Well.
John:We hope you feel empowered and ready
Vikki:to take on new challenges. Remember, if we can do it, so can you. Keep learning, keep believing, and going after your dreams.
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Vikki:Help us grow this community of go getters. Together, we can achieve greatness and get back to family.
John:Thanks for listening and let's keep digging the one.