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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. One of the best parts of about doing this show is that I get to interview experts in fields that really matter. You know, I'm not interviewing experts in, you know, the new cars coming out or experts in vaccine safety or vaccines and why they're good. No.
Speaker 1:I'm finding people that are oftentimes risking their lives or their careers to come out and tell you information that you're not gonna find on Fox News or CNN or any of these other places. And one of the the areas I'm most passionate about is health and healing. And if you've been following a little bit of my story over the past month and a half, I got really, really sick. And I stupidly, it's kind of funny, but I think I got really sick from poi you know, toxic mold poisoning from my goat's poop and urine. As as weird as it is, because I spent I'll get into it in the show if I spent, you know, an hour cleaning out the goat shed without wearing a respirator or goggles or anything thinking, oh, I'm invincible.
Speaker 1:I'm, you know, I'm I'm 39 years old. I'm healthy. And, no, god smacked me a little bit and said, Seth, humble yourself. You're not invincible, and I was laid up for quite some time. And so my guest today is my good friend Jonathan Otto, and a lot of what we're gonna be talking about is is my process of healing myself from a pretty intense poisoning and how he was the first person I reached out to.
Speaker 1:And so, we're gonna be going over the protocols that I followed, but also taking a bigger picture look at the cancer industry and the lies that we've been told. And about a new study coming out of from some Chinese researchers showing that chemotherapy, which a lot of us already know is just this massive toxic overload, it's not always necessary. But, actually, they found out that chemotherapy can cause cancer to even start spreading more rapidly into other areas of the body, which is frightening. So please enjoy this interview with my good friend, Jonathan Otto. Jonathan, man, it's great to have you back on the show.
Speaker 1:It's been way too long, but thank you for being here today.
Speaker 2:My my pleasure. And likewise, I'm I'm thrilled to be with you, and it's exciting to reconnect. And so and and I know you got a really cool story as well with something that was pretty, I mean, you're worried your k your your Kate your wife, Kate, was was pretty worried. And I'm I'm really glad that you got through that recent thing that we're about to talk about as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Well, actually, you know, it's a good place to start because a lot of people, you know, they'll ask me, okay. What are you what do you actually do? Right? Because, obviously, I interview a lot of people like yourself.
Speaker 1:I'm I'm always talking about emergence emerging health technologies and whatnot, But it's it's like, okay. If I get sick, you know, what am I doing? And and people are very curious of that. And and, actually, you tend to be, like, typically, like, the first person I'll text. Like, if some whether it's, like, my, you know, with, like, my daughter or with Kate or myself.
Speaker 1:And so yeah. So recently, this you know, and I think most of the audience that's, you know, watching somewhat consistently would know this is, I I got I I was sick, like, off and on for probably four or five weeks, and it was like I had, like, loose stool for quite some time. I was having fevers coming and going, like, extreme fatigue. And I I actually so I I think that, you know, when kinda diagnosing, I think that what happened was, you know, we have we had goats. Right?
Speaker 1:And so I I did, like, a big clean out of their goat house, and I didn't realize this. I was talking to some friends that are farmers, and one of my friends is like, yeah. Like, as a kid, my our dad never let us touch the goat house. Like, we could do cows. We could do pigs.
Speaker 1:But goats, I think because there's, like, a lot of extra ammonia and different stuff in their urine, and they also do they just they make a terrible mess of their goat house. And so I spent, like, an hour in this small little area, like, cleaning this stuff up, and I think that it was, like, some sort of toxic mold overload that sent my my body into this, like, this kind of fight or flight of fevers and and just extreme fatigue. And I think so I think it was really fundamentally was some sort of mold or toxin poisoning. And actually, without even even knowing, Kate messaged you. Like, she hopped on my phone, and and I forget what she said to you, but I think she was pretty worried.
Speaker 1:Right?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I'll pull it up. Ready? She said she said, hey, Jonathan. It's Kate.
Speaker 2:Seth's been sick. Like, not an invasion of privacy or anything. I was freaking out. Your wife
Speaker 1:and That's okay. I don't care. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Not that I
Speaker 1:If I wanted privacy, I wouldn't be doing a podcast. Right?
Speaker 2:Seems like for weeks with only a few normal days, I'm just checking his phone to see how many missed messages there are. Maybe he should get your advice. Yes. He should, I say. I can help.
Speaker 2:You can tell me more about his symptoms. And then she then lists exactly what you said, but then says, then after doing that, there you go. She talks about the goat shed. Then she says, and then he had diarrhea for two weeks, then got better a couple of days, then got strong fever and aches with reddish eyes and spent many days in bed, loss of taste, loss of appetite. He has a lot.
Speaker 2:He has lost a lot of weight, then got somewhere better a few days, but problems sleeping and very tired now. Today he's back in bed chills, eyes looked reddish again. Chinese doctor said that he has a very weak pulse and excess heat and damp. So that's one perspective. He did acupuncture once.
Speaker 2:He's been going for probably four or five weeks now. He also did the peptides promoted by Diane for about a month before he started then he stopped. Okay. Then, then I start asking questions about like what is he doing or the things that you know, I'm I'm about to recommend and so forth. But, anyway, there there's your Yeah.
Speaker 1:There there's the yeah. That's okay. That's alright. Well, because I I you know, it's like, I I'm a very transparent person. Right?
Speaker 1:And I think that's why people, you know, enjoy the show because
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:You know, they they meet me in person. Like, oh, you're you're dick. Just like like, you're just how you are on on screen. It's like, well, yeah, don't I don't like I'm not an actor. Right?
Speaker 1:Like, I'm actually not a very good actor if I'd even tried to. I can't lie worth anything. Right? You know? So, but anyway so, yeah, we we went back and forth with you, and and you recommended a few things.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I did I did a few sessions of acupuncture, which I think were really helpful. I'm a big believer in in Chinese medicine and their understanding of the human body and everything. And but then what you recommended was, you know, intense red light sessions and, like, high dose chlorine dioxide. And so I did you know, for a couple days in a row, I did, like, you know, probably, you know, an hour to hour and a half long red light sessions. Like, I I I'd, like, fall asleep, and, like, it beep and finish, like, a twenty minute section you know, session.
Speaker 1:I I I wake up, I press the button again. And then I'd do it, and I'd fall asleep. I wake up, I got press the button again. So I may have done, like, a, you know, a two hour red light session. And Awesome.
Speaker 1:So those were really good. And then I did a really high dose, CDS bath. Right? You know, we mixed it. I think it was, a hundred milliliters total.
Speaker 1:Right? So a hundred a hundred drops total, which was you know, that's a lot, you know, for a bath. And I did, like, an hour and a half long soak the first night, first day or so did that. That evening, I I sweat. Like, I had so much sweat.
Speaker 1:Like, I slept in the guest room, so I didn't wanna bother Kate with all my, you know, kinda not feeling well. And I woke up, and, like, my pillow was soaking wet. Like, my sheets were soaking wet, and I was just covered.
Speaker 2:And and you felt amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But I felt I felt much better. Right? So That's cool.
Speaker 2:No. That's typical. Like, you just, you know, cleared it. You know what I mean? Your body had been trying to clear that for so long, and it got it out of the sweat.
Speaker 2:But go ahead. Sorry.
Speaker 1:Well, no. So that's and that's what I kinda came to conclusion. Think that's what also told me it was some sort of toxic poisoning Because when I when I did when I the suffers whatever and you you know the mechanisms a lot better than I do, but the combination of the chlorine dioxide with the red light, it seemed to allow my body to expel all of these toxins. And they primarily came out through my sweat. Right?
Speaker 1:And that was like the turning point. So within a couple of days of doing that, I did another so actually, I felt better the next day, and I thought, wow. Like, this is great. I said, okay. I'm not gonna just think that, okay.
Speaker 1:I'm I'm better now. So I did another, you know, hour long CDS bath, another hour long red light session, and that seemed to be, like, what really pulled it out. Because I feel like that for that, you know, say, four or five week period, that whether it was the diarrhea or the fatigue, it was it was a symptom of, like it was basically toxic overload, but my body wasn't able to get rid of it. Right? So I was, like, struggling, and that's why I was I feel better one day.
Speaker 1:I'd be sick the next day. Better one day, fever the next day. One day, I had a fever of, like, one zero two point five, like, all day just laying in bed. Right? Because, obviously, my body is trying to, like, you know, fight something.
Speaker 1:But why so explain to me why is it that what mechanisms happened that the combination of red light and the chlorine dioxide, how did those allow my body to then expel all those toxins and finally get me better again?
Speaker 2:Yeah. No. It's awesome, man. And and I just wanna preface this for everyone that's watching. Probably no one else here that's watching has cleaned a goat shed and now is having the symptoms of that.
Speaker 2:But why is it that I would tell you to do the exact same thing that Seth did? And that is because, know, this is, I believe that this will work for you that's watching for whatever because it is a universal antidote which you're very familiar with the concept of chlorine dioxide being a universal antidote. So it's through oxygen and electrons. And so if you look at there's a patent you could look up if you want like Andreas Kalka, the patent that he got in 2017 or '18 for chlorine dioxide as a universal anti poison agent. And so and it did so via and it was everything.
Speaker 2:It was like whether it was a plant toxin or venom or like like a lectin or whether it was a or whether it was like a toxic envenomation from a cone snail or a snake or anything like that. But which is really relevant because considering people are getting poisoned by glyphosate, even if you're even if you're not eating even if you're on the eating organic food, you're still it's just in our environment. So you're able to counter that toxicity through ex flooding the body with electrons. And what happens with toxicity, your body gets flooded with excessive protons. So you're countering that just from an electrical point, you're flooding the body with electrons while flooding the body with oxygen.
Speaker 2:And so what you did basically was like an oxygen bath, which was kind of like a hyperbaric on steroids, kind of like a hydrogen water bath on steroids. So you're able to just flood the body and get it into all the pores and let it go into your body. So and the other cool thing is you did exactly what I said because Kate Kate just kinda ran with that, and then I didn't hear anything which made me think, alright. He's probably done it. He's probably better, but I'll just, like, wait because they'd reach out if there's a problem.
Speaker 2:And so I'm really glad to hear it. And then and then we're on the show, so I'm like, well, he's better. So anyway, so that's great. So and the red light, the reason why that's working is both of them are assisting mitochondrial function, and that's the part that's getting damaged, and that's the reason why you're so tired because your mitochondrial function
Speaker 1:is damaged. Interesting. Because I was, like, crazy tired. Like, literally, like, my back started hurting because I was laying in bed so much. You know?
Speaker 1:So say of of a normal let's just say it was maybe, like, like, a sixteen hour wake period. I was I was in bed 12 of those sixteen hours. And, you know, and not necessarily sleeping, just laying there. I I had no energy. So you're saying that was the basically, so my my mitochondria were just getting hammered.
Speaker 1:Right?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. I think that yeah, what you did was exactly you interface then with the problem where it was. So your mitochondria function was being damaged.
Speaker 2:Then you were charging up the cells. So not only then did you start having more energy, but more importantly, your cells had energy to fight what was going on. So all you've got to do in these cases, everything is happening on a cellular level. Everything is about how cells are interacting and the signal getting stopped. Like so toxins will stop the signal and the cells from me on a pass information and it's disrupting this kind of electron transport chain.
Speaker 2:Stopping the normal respiration of cells. The cells aren't breathing properly. And then when cells aren't breathing properly, then this is why oxygen level in the blood also goes down in these cases. So then you put the oxygen level up in the cells in the case of the CDS, which you did a straight CD or MMS bath which was fifty drops of each which is you didn't have to stabilize it in that setting because it was going in through the pores. You didn't have to kind of balance like the stabilization of it and it was probably more powerful to do that that way.
Speaker 2:And it was cheaper as well. Not that that's necessarily like an issue in this case because it's still cheap in both settings, but you just got straight drops of each, which is great for anyone watching to do, like do baths out of this and you will start feeling amazing. It's so cool. And everyone's probably gonna do not not everyone, but a lot of people that are watching this are gonna start doing these CDS baths or the chlorine dioxide baths. And we've showed people where to get it.
Speaker 2:You can go like literally just go into Amazon and put in chlorine dioxide and anything that says 25% sodium chloride is going to be good and whether you're activating with citric acid or hydrochloric acid, my preference is the hydrochloric acid. You can just get that, add that to your bath and then learn how to stabilize it by just putting into Rumble, how to make CDS for the for the oral consumption. Just so it's just, you know, it's not gonna give you nausea or or like any stomach pain because it's it's very safe.
Speaker 1:I think actually this is what we have. I think this is what we're using. Yeah. Yeah. $30.33 bucks on Amazon.
Speaker 1:That stuff will last you, you know, years. Right? Like, it's
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Mate, yeah. It depends how much you're using it.
Speaker 2:But, yeah. Exactly. Whether it's, you know, six months or whatever, it'll it'll last you. Cost nothing right? Healing shouldn't be only available to ultra wealthy.
Speaker 2:Exactly. And I know people going into these. I went to a clinic just recently it was like he he was a friend but it would have cost me and my wife like $5,000 to just go in there to get the like checkup but the bars that they were using they weren't using CDS they're using hydrogen and it wasn't even as good. This is really really good. So anyway and then yeah, you just did those combination therapies.
Speaker 2:I'm like, how cool is it that worked for you and this is the same thing that we're seeing work for cancer, autoimmune disease and it then becomes really a very viable and easy option for people And it's replicating like what is referred to as a like a med bed type technology, because they really, if you see any groups that are like selling these $200,000 beds, it's a combination PMF red light and oxygen therapy so they're breathing hydrogen gas, brown gas through, nasal. But you could you know, you're doing it through either the oral consumption or the bathing and ideally both. And so you're able to, like, harness that healing potential, which is awesome.
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Speaker 1:What so basically, so it makes sense about how how the corn dioxide solution was impacting oxygen. Because it it creates, like, it creates an insane amount of oxygen molecules. Right? Like, when you when you create that solution. But then how how does then the red light tie into I know that I know that red light does affect the mitochondria significantly and energy production of the cells, but so how how did how does it that red light completed that circuit?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So it's it's working with oxygen as well, which is really interesting, and it's causing the body to produce oxygen itself and really specific forms of oxygen called reactive oxygen species like singlet oxygen, and they will go and target these toxins in the body and disease cells. And so it's gonna complete this turnover. Singlet oxygen is I've mentioned how it's really powerful. It's used in mill it's not commonly used, but it has been used in military settings to shoot missiles that are airborne.
Speaker 2:So you could you could blow things up with with singlet oxygen, but your body naturally produce it under red light. And so you and which is red in substance as well. So your body will produce these fluorescent red substances, and they'll go and target these, disease cells as one mechanism. And then there's this it's activating these cellular processes critical for cellular respiration called nitric oxide signaling and cytochrome c oxidase signaling. So you're activating these processes within cells and you're doing that at a different, it's different to CDS in the sense that you're through light, you're triggering this response in the body.
Speaker 2:And then CDS is simply like flooding the, putting it into the body whereas red light is making your body produce it. So both of them are working with oxygen and and they're assisting each other. And there are some people that aren't getting fully better on on just red light. They should look at CDS, CD, MMS, and they and then people that are just doing CD and MMS that should be looking at red light and they should be looking at PMF as well because it's it's going to trigger that cellular detoxification and it's going to help assist healthy cells, destroy unhealthy cells. And so once you can do that turnover, all of a sudden, wow.
Speaker 2:Why am I feeling amazing? Why am I cell? But it's because the cells are functioning properly. And if you looked at your cells under a microscope, you'd see everything functioning normally, and you say, I see it now. This is this is how it works.
Speaker 1:And so PMFMAT. Right? Because so I don't have one of those yet. I'm I'm gonna be getting one. I've I've been eyeing them for quite some time, because I know so one of my friends owns a health spa, and he's got he has all the superhuman protocol, equipment.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You know, he's it's it's, you know, it's probably hundreds of thousands of dollars he's put into this, you know, health spa. And I know that he's when when he's walking through it, he like, the PMFMAT is always, like, central. Like, so he's got the PMFMAT. He's at the red light over top of it, then he's got, a an oxygen system where you kind of exercise a little bit with the with the mask on to get your oxygen levels.
Speaker 1:So it's a whole kind of system that he has set up there. But, walk me through a little bit about so first off, you know, it's commonly called PMF, but it's PEMF. Right?
Speaker 2:Yep. Yeah. It's electromagnetic field therapy.
Speaker 1:Okay. And so what is what is that? Because that that's the next thing. And it's funny, because I'm I'm hearing people talking about, you know, there you know, there's always the the med bed theory, right, which was kind of like, it was the same people that were kind of pushing Nisara Jisara, and, like, the extreme, you know, kind of, not not like not even the cue stuff, but, like, way, way further than that. Like, oh, you know, Trump is gonna be releasing the med beds for everybody, and, you then like the sergeant's sorry, everyone's gonna get unlimited money, and they're gonna redistribute the wealth of the elites.
Speaker 1:And, you know, I think the idea of the med beds got, I think in a lot of ways, really tainted by being part of this kind of discussion of people saying, up, and you're gonna be the first one to get the med bed. It's gonna heal everything. But if I think about the the PMF, Matt, and the red light therapy, and then obviously oxygen, you know, kinda as part of that, to me, like, that's almost it's it's kind of is the closest thing that I think that we're seeing to a med bed. So Yeah. Like and I know you have you have some slides on on the PMF, and I I wanna get into that because it's it's a new thing for me.
Speaker 1:So what is the PMF, Matt? How does it work? What are some what do the studies show? Because why is that an important part of this whole situation?
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's awesome, man. Yeah. So you it's it's yeah. It's really great that we're giving these kind of elite tools that you typically could only get by going spending $50,000 for three weeks at a clinic and things like that and I've got friends that run these clinics and it's good but the problem is people that do that end up going back home and then they don't have anything and so these diseases typically don't take three weeks to turn around and then if you did turn it around then you you've still now got the same environment that caused it in the first place and you don't have an ability to reset this and so hence why setting up your home in a way at like in a really cost effective way becomes the solution.
Speaker 2:So like if you look at the the slide there for like you could look at slide six and seven in that presentation thing that I gave you, you could see how PMF is reducing pain by improving cellular energy and it's calming overactive nerve signals yeah and then you could see
Speaker 1:how Yeah lowering
Speaker 2:say that again.
Speaker 1:So here this is slide this is page six right?
Speaker 2:Yes exactly And then and then so it's supporting faster healing in muscles, joints, and nerves. So that was, you know, what you were going through was still all connected to, you know what was in the muscles what's you know going on with the nerves with the joints and then cellular level inflammation reduction so you're reducing the inflammation so that your body can cope but you're getting to the root of it and it's improving blood flow and oxygen at the tissue level. It's interesting that PMF is also another oxygen based therapy and so now if blood is flowing oxygenation is the cells have sufficient oxygen then they're performing cellular function at the optimal level. So it's easing swelling and then you've got your supporting cancer recovery as well as autoimmune recovery and so it's enhancing the immune function tissue repair and detoxification processes. Your body was supported in its detox and it's supporting recovery alongside conventional treatments without adding strain to the body and then you'll see as well in the next slide there that it's rebuilding bone density and then it's accelerating fracture healing by stimulating bone forming cells and boosting calcium absorption.
Speaker 2:And so stem cells are being produced in the bone. The more robust bones are meaning overall health is better as well as just you're supporting the skeletal system. So then you're neutralizing as well harmful EMF exposures. So all these things are happening at once and you're recharging the body's natural electrical field. It's not that even PMF, PMF doesn't heal your body, red light doesn't heal your body.
Speaker 2:Not even chlorine oxide, they don't heal your body. Your body heals itself, it just needs these fuel sources so the body can get to work and do what it needs to do. And then you're getting more restful sleep and then when you were sleeping instead of just, you know, suffering through that and still having the system the same way, waking up tired, you were getting deeper sleep and getting restorative sleep instead of just just the kind of regular sleep that you're having and then you'll see then the next slide there it's supporting the chronic pain issue by reducing inflammation improving circulation and modulating pain signals and there was a study there so you'll see that in slide eight that this chronic pain study showed that seventy percent of the participants reported significant reduction in their pain and so it wasn't just this symptom of pain, it was healing the issue that was causing the pain in the first place, which is better again.
Speaker 1:And so real quick I'll ask you, actually I did a quick Google search just to kind of look okay Like, what is a PMF mat? Right? Because that's that's one of the questions. And there's obviously there's a bunch of different, types and everything. So so basically, it's, it's just like a mat you lay on.
Speaker 1:Right? And so Yeah. If this is what they they look like, there's various, you know, types of them and stuff like that. What is it that's actually going on there? Right?
Speaker 1:Because I know that because I've seen the one. I haven't used it. I've seen the one that is that, my my friend uses in his health spa, and it's got it just looks like a black mat you lay on. Right? So what's actually like, when you're doing, say, a PMF mat or you're laying on it, it's on, and you you get a red light over top of you ideally, what's the actual mat doing?
Speaker 1:Like, what what what's actually how is it is it, like, vibrating? Is it like, what's what's going on there?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So like let's say for example when you move your limbs, applying a little bit of pressure and then that pressure is stimulating the body with a healing frequency. So movement is a way to heal as well and that's why people that haven't been working out start working out, they start feeling better overall because that is putting a resonance through the body. And then what you're doing with a PMF mat is you're amplifying the earth's field which you so like for anyone watching this, one thing to do without, you know, getting anything is just by, you know, putting your feet on the ground and lying down on the ground.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Which I love doing that. Especially like when it's full sun, like, you know, I'll go out with my kids and was laying the grass together.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's awesome. Good for you. And so then that is in nature an example of a of a med bed in just in nature. So everyone can go and do these things because you're getting the the you've gonna you're getting every spectrum of light.
Speaker 2:And even if you're doing all the things that we're saying, even if you've got devices, you should still get that full spectrum from the sun. You should still get exactly what the earth is emitting because you're made in you know, biblically speaking, you're made in combination like in you're made for the earth and the earth was made for you and you you you your property the properties in your blood resonate and have the same properties as the earth. And so but what you do and it said but then why would you get such a benefit on these types therapies? And I've not yet seen studies where people like I've shown studies where people go into remission in a week from light therapy. Why is it that people are getting enhanced benefits?
Speaker 2:And then these PMF studies, why are people getting such benefits? It's because it's amplifying the field. It's like, you know, 10x, 100x, what the earth is giving, whatever, you know, and it's within the Schumann resonance, which is between one to 30 hertz. And so you've got the earth emitting this this quality, but you're you're pushing that at at ample, you know, electrical voltage through the body. And so it like, you know, maybe what you would get from the whole day laying on the ground, you could get from half an hour an hour.
Speaker 1:So it's kind of like okay. Just in my elementary understanding of this. Because I've got grounding mats. Right? And we use it.
Speaker 1:We have a grounding mat. We have a grounding sheet on our bed, you know, at my main work desk. You know, we we've got grounding mats on the you know, for our hands to be sitting on. So we've you know, I I wear grounding shoes. Like, I've got a pair of shoes that have a little piece of copper in them in the leather sole, so that way they're they're grounding you as you're walking.
Speaker 1:So I understand grounding. So, basically so the the PMF mat, what it's doing is it's almost like it's taking that grounding function you get from the Earth, and it's amplifying it, like, 10 x, a 100 x in terms of the the amount of grounding and how quickly it's pulling your your energy and realigning it with the Earth's energy. Then is it is it also so grounding is one thing, but so it's also, it's emitting a frequency. Right? So it's it's also, like, not sound healing.
Speaker 1:Like, you know, people think about sound healing, but it's similar to that. Right? Like, it's actually releasing frequencies, healing frequencies into your body.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. Yeah. You got it. Yes. Exactly.
Speaker 2:It's it's it's doing exactly what you're saying. It's you're you're you're you're you're aligning your body with the earth so that and and replicating the earth's frequencies in a way that is so powerful that it's overriding all the false signals that get into the body. And it's like that's what light does. There's a really cool verse in the Bible in Malachi four chapter chapter two and it says, the sun s u n of righteousness, which is a reference to Christ will rise with healing in his wings but the word wings it is like light and wings but the translation is rays or projection or wavelengths and righteousness is rightness, correctness. So the issue with the body is that you've got incorrect frequencies that are happening because of toxins that then put the wrong signal, then put the right signal.
Speaker 1:Wi Fi, five g.
Speaker 2:Yes. Then you're correcting that signal. So now the signal is right. So now the healing is not obstructed anymore. So now the body heals itself.
Speaker 2:You're a self healing machine. Once people realize that then all you're doing is you're just getting things out of the way that are obstructing healing frequencies then become the best thing. Light frequencies correct, the correct frequency. And that's why you look at the healing frequencies of six sixty for breast cancer. Why did it show a forty percent drop in twenty four hours?
Speaker 2:Well, it was hitting right into that region through that depth of penetration and then giving that right frequency that then caused that layer of the body to say, yeah, we're ready to heal now. We can get rid of this poison that's obstructing this, you know, healing process.
Speaker 1:Interesting. Okay. So now that we've established what the the PMFMAT is and the basic mechanics of it, I'll pull this presentation back up because it's it's now easier for me to look at this and and have have a mental picture to make me help me understand it a little better.
Speaker 2:Yes. Awesome, man. Yeah. So then you got that chronic pain. You go to the next, slide there and you'll see that it's supporting lymphatic drainage and removing waste products, reducing swelling.
Speaker 2:You'll see that it's accelerating tissue repair and muscles, ligaments, balancing electromagnetic signaling across the cell membranes, decreasing oxidative stress. Look at the next study there on how it's working with the chronic pain and anxiety that people are facing. That small study there showed that people were reporting less pain, better mood, clearer thinking, improved sleep after twelve-twenty minute sessions over several weeks. So it's not a long commitment either. And then, yeah, and there's the clinical study on the next slide that backs that.
Speaker 2:Then you've got cellular inflammation on the next slide, which is it's improving the membrane function, cellular membrane function, enhancing oxygen delivery and circulation, reducing pro inflammatory cytokines, specifically TNF alpha and IL-one beta supporting mitochondrial health. So PMF will also do that red light will support mitochondrial health but they're still working through different mechanisms. One is they're both electromagnetic but one is primarily through light the other is through pulsating like like a accelerated grounding situation so which is which is cool because think about it when you're in nature you've got the light hitting you while you've got the earth currents going through you. So and and so you're you're just replicating that. So we can't beat God and that's when when people are expecting med bed technology to be different to what emits in the earth, you're trying to outwit God and it never works.
Speaker 2:So you end up never beating it. You can't beat nature. All you could do is replicate nature and accelerate nature. And that's why these therapies work. The next slide there is really cool.
Speaker 2:If you look at inflammation healing, have a look at the next slide there. It's actively altering gene expression and protein signaling within inflammatory cells leading to reduce oxidative stress and faster healing. That's gene expression again fascinating that you can even interface with that. That's the clinical study on the next slide representing that. And then the next one will show you the two hours after the PMF exposure you'll see that key protective genes were significantly upregulated which helped neutralize oxidative stress, increased expression of enzymes that produce lipid mediators fueling inflammation resolution.
Speaker 2:And then PMF treatment altered cytokine mRNA levels suggesting a shift towards anti inflammatory signaling. And then there's the clinical study on the next slide showing that finding and here's one of my favorite ones on the cancer support. For people that are doing conventional therapies and a lot of people are going to do that so you'll offset like the painful mouth sores, the skin irritation, the swelling, the nerve pain and digestive problems that come with those therapies. So you're countering that but that's just a form of toxicity and we're all getting toxicity whether we're doing these invasive therapies or not. The next slide there will show you that what happened when they were using this gentle non invasive no side effects reported that that PMF pulse electromagnetic field was targeting cancer cells while leaving healthy cells unharmed And researchers found that when breast cancer cells were exposed to low frequency PMF, it slowed their growth, triggered cell death, pushed them into a state called senescence where the cells stopped multiplying but don't die right away.
Speaker 2:Remarkably the normal healthy cells weren't just unaffected, actually showed signs of improved health and increased growth which suggests that PMF might offer a safer alternative and a complement to chemotherapy if people are doing that by weakening cancer cells without harming surrounding tissue. It's certainly not my option once people understand all these therapies and use them in combination you end up not having to reach for these invasive therapies and most importantly a lot of the viewers want to prevent these problems from happening in the first place. And and and that's what I that's what we're showing evidence that we're doing. And then
Speaker 1:One thing I'll I'll throw up there real quickly is that Yeah. Please. Even with chemotherapy, this this study just came out, that these Chinese researchers discovered that chemotherapy can speed up cancer, the spread of cancer. Right? So they say here that common treatment can wake up dormant cancer cells, causing the disease to spread from original sites to other organs.
Speaker 1:So it's like we're now discovering that mammograms are giving us cancer, that sunscreen gives us cancer, that even chemotherapy, which is supposed to be the cure, and we know that it's a heavy toxic poisoning of the body, it doesn't matter what way you look at it, but the fact that they're now you know, they're discovering that even chemotherapy can speed up the spread of cancer, it's like I don't know. There's there's never been a better time to walk away. And and, look, this isn't medical advice, you know, if people are going through chemo right now, it's like, okay. Maybe what you can do then is supplement your chemo with, you know, a PMFMAD or with red light or with, you chlorine dioxide, etcetera. But it's like, you know, as much as, again, you know, there's been all these kind of the conspiracies about med beds, it's like, okay.
Speaker 1:Well, God made a med bed. It's called the Earth and the Sun. So it's like, okay. For one, do that as often as possible. Lay on the ground.
Speaker 1:Get the sunlight. But it seems like what I'm gathering from this conversation, and I know I was missing one of these key components, but for me, it was the chlorine dioxide and the red light. But am I correct in understanding that combination of chlorine dioxide red light and the PMF mat, that's really, like, one of the most potent healing systems that is available. And it's not something that's, like, $200,000. I mean, you know, we're talking a couple thousand dollars max, right, to to build out this system.
Speaker 1:There's even more budget ways of going about it than that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's it's pretty amazing, though, because all what I'm seeing is that, like you said, we're we're not trying to reinvent God. We're not trying to advance beyond what God's given us. It's it's actually, it's through a being humble and recognizing that He already gave us the med bed. Right? So how can we take what the Earth does?
Speaker 1:How can we take what the sunlight does? How can we take what oxygen does and increase oxygen that comes from, you know, fresh air and breathing and deep deep, you know, deep lung breathing filling your chest up with air? How can we take those things and make it so that you can have access to that day or night, in a very concentrated form? Like, that seems to be what this system has recreated.
Speaker 2:Yes. You got it, man. So awesome. You understand it. And then it becomes simple because once people understand it like the way that you are then we know what to reach for and we know what to do arguably in any circumstance because healing is always the same pathway and a lot of people are stuck within a diagnosis which you know there's 75,000 different diagnosis and so then what if you find an expert that's an expert in one but you've got five and that's typical.
Speaker 2:I'm often working with people that have got five, you've got a collection. So they now you need an expert in another one and they're telling you something completely opposite. But what you want is experts that are in experts in healing the body and how the body works because then it's you there's no there's not 75,000 different diseases there's only one disease and there's only and and disease is the absence of wellness which is know dis ease is just a lack of ease, a lack of equilibrium, a lack of balance. So we just want to improve that and then let the body self heal versus you know being committed to you know a label which we've been given. But yeah I think that that and that really does really sum up the premise of what we're talking about.
Speaker 2:And then yeah, like probably the last thing I can share on on that is that that next slide just showing specifically of what it was doing in the cells. Yeah, so the PMF treated cancer cells not only displayed cell death but also senescence. In contrast normal fibroblasts were not affected by the possible harmful effects of PMFs which there weren't any like it was a potential you got to assess that it could be possible but it certainly wasn't wasn't happening which is which is great and but it increased their cellular viability. And so then it and then there's the clinical study there and then you'll see as well PMF on the next slide for autoimmune disease by improving cellular energy and circulation balancing the immune system activity as well as reducing chronic inflammation. And then finally like this study on fibromyalgia showed that after twelve weeks not like so the widespread pain and fatigue again very similar.
Speaker 2:So you had some kind of pain that you also had you know this fatigue and so you didn't get diagnosed with that condition. But you know the people in this case women that were treated with this they had less pain, better physical function, reduced fatigue and improved mood. And so I'm sure all those things improved for you as well and off and then it was a structural change that lasted for twelve weeks. And then you see the study and the bone density and the harmful EMF exposures when we can cover these in other times but it's balancing all of these things and suppression of these pathways. The only other one that we haven't discussed, which is again completely different is the heat therapy because if you can raise the body temperature, you're activating heat shock proteins.
Speaker 2:And so that's the other side of things and you could just, you know, fast forward over to there before we like kind of wrap this.
Speaker 1:What page is that?
Speaker 2:Go over to slide 37 and so then you'll see that it's it's also operating with the within these there you go. Yep. There you go. So a great study there sixty three percent lower risk of sudden cardiac death as a 2015 study chronic pain relief bone health EMF balance is all supported and promoted. It's promoting and supporting cancer and autoimmune recovery and reducing chronic pain.
Speaker 2:It's reducing inflammation and it's promoting the release of nitric oxide. Again your body you know completing these processes you'll see there it's supported it's also countering osteoarthritis, fibromyalgia, all these inflammatory it is which is kind of just names again. Yeah so you'll see all these in process and by raising the core body temperature by 1% you're up regulating the immune system by 30 to 40% and so that's just a game changer. You wouldn't do that every day you would do that more like three times a week if you can you can fit that in even once a week is going to be a game changer. So you'll see the next slide there not only for autoimmune conditions but also for cancer recovery Infrared sauna is being used for cancer recovery, supporting oxygen flow and strengthening the immune system.
Speaker 2:Again working completely different that's why you see the sweat. So you sweat, you did the sweating through the night but and and if we can then ex enhance and accelerate that through far infrared, we've been talking about red and near infrared a lot, which is within that optical window, 600 to 1,100. Far infrared is 3,000, 4,000 nanometers, and that's where you get into this deep heat therapy and then you're causing the body to remove the waste through the tox through the sweating. And also on slide 46, you'll see that it's working with repairing DNA damage and cellular damage. So it's actually working within these act pathways, and it's activating protective proteins called heat shock proteins that assist in cellular repair.
Speaker 2:I'll add this next line that that that there are the scientists are showing and finding that this is also helping to destroy cancer cells through through heat which is which is fascinating but I know for the sake of time as well we could just even show people what what we're doing specifically with the PMF mat there which you see it's and the next slide there kind of breaks down the layers because you want to know what's in something and make sure it matches the studies otherwise you you may be getting something that's not powerful enough or or it's just using the wrong frequencies that don't resonate with the earth's frequencies. So you can see the natural gemstones, the photon layer, the the thermal foil insulation, the low EMFR infrared ray heating wire layer, the thermal foil etc, the PMF system layer and then that next slide there shows the one to 30 hertz range is what we're using in these devices that's mirroring the naturals the earth's natural electric, rhythm which electromagnetic rhythm which is the Schumann resonance, in that in that range. So that's what we're make make we made sure to do that.
Speaker 2:You see all the clinical studies backing that one to 30 hertz range, which which is, If
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Speaker 2:You know, super powerful. Next study is slide there is showing also at using the next one over the 150 millitesla, which is the magnetic field strength. And so and you know a lot of the consumer mats aren't aren't using this they're using much lower intensities which are then missing the mark and these are the ones that are proven in the study and you see the the studies done on this and it's it's showing a clear trend towards high expression of key healing factors like collagen VEGF1 which is vascular endothelial growth factor and it's offering a deeper more stimulating effect on healing processes. And yeah, so you can see more study on the combination of PMF mat with the fire infrared heat. Again, such a powerful combination.
Speaker 2:You've got the 180 watts of irradiance within the PMF mat, which is super effective and so you see the study backing that on the next slide of why the 180 watts is is the one that's been validated in the clinical study there and then finally yeah again the FDA certification then becomes important and then then coming over to then you could just see like on the next couple of slides there you'll see like the special offer that we have there for people that are really excited about getting this technology into their home and there you've got a we've got a really cool code there as well, Seth 25, easy to remember, but that'll activate a 25% off discount on the sauna blanket. It uses all the parameters that we just listed and you can go back and look at the slides there showing the exact specifications that match highest healing potential there and then the next slide there on the PMF mat which is again with a 25 off code you're saving you know over $400 which then it makes it super affordable. You know, you you could try you you you pay, you know, a $100 a session in the clinic.
Speaker 2:And then we teach people to do this before bed, which which allows you to, you know, get way more restful sleep and restorative sleep, but you can't do that. There's no clinics open at that time. So you can't do it before bed. You can't do it at the intervals you really need to. So it really caters towards that.
Speaker 2:And the next slide over shows as well like the combination of those. And so you can use the code Seth 30. So use Seth 25 if you're getting them individually. But if you're getting it together, use the code Seth 30. Saves close to $800.
Speaker 2:And then, yeah, I did the math on that over like because you use this over the next ten, twenty years or the rest of your life, but I just I'm just giving an example of a conservative figure works out less than, you know, $30 sorry. Worth less than 30¢ 30¢ a session, which, you know, you can't even eat an organic carrot for 30¢. So it you know? And then look at the money you save, like, now you're back to work, Seth. Whereas if you didn't have these therapies, you you might not be back to work.
Speaker 2:You might just you might have to do half the amount of interviews because you you you can function but not as well. So it's not about what you're spending. End up like this why I'm saying, well, it does end up costing you nothing. Once people can work this out, you're putting your energy and your time where where it deserves to go and you can activate this. We got free shipping in The United States as well.
Speaker 2:You got payment plans you could do if you if you need that, like a six month, twelve month, twenty four month. You could use Afterpay or Afterpay for folks that are international as well as in in America or or the PayPal, buy now, pay later systems. But it's really that simple. We just wanna make it accessible to people. Everything else like cost because you you you're reordering it now.
Speaker 2:You you can get something in your home. You don't have to keep reordering it. And it really sets you up for life, and that's what I want for people. We're just trying to prevent all these issues that are happening. I hate when you know, I I'm typically putting out fires with people with late stage cancer that then becomes more expensive and complicated.
Speaker 2:This is this is a simple way to to get ahead of everything. And and if you are in that deep state where you're in a very chronic state, then these are the therapies that I'm most strongly recommending to put in your home so that you can just change change your environment, change the frequencies there in your body, let your body finally heal, and and get your life back.
Speaker 1:And and what's, what's amazing about it is that because obviously, I'll be get I'll be ordering the PMF mat once I once we finish here. Yeah. Because I'm I'm sold on it. But, you know, we we use these, like, regularly, like, for our kids. You know?
Speaker 1:So the red light, for instance, that's one of the big ones. Actually, my one year old, my four, they love it. They get to go sit under the red light with us. It's safe for the kids. But I know that, you know, Kate, you know, through, I think, primarily through chlorine dioxide and red light, she had probably, like, a two centimeter wide lump that was growing on her thyroid.
Speaker 1:And actually, even yesterday, she I saw her doing this, and she was touching her neck. I said, what are you doing? And she's like, I can't even feel it anymore. She's like, I I can barely feel it because I know I know where it used to be. And I and I touched it, and I was like, I I can't even feel it.
Speaker 1:Whereas before, it was literally like feeling, you know, like a knuckle under your skin. Right? And I could see it visually too. I could see it. So she's someone I know a lot of women have thyroid issues, and that was something just and actually, think I it was CDS was probably 20% of it, but I I feel like the eighty percent of the, like, the recovery she saw, like, a very noticeable like, once she got serious with the red light, within a month or so, it was already reducing in size.
Speaker 1:And now it's to the point where she can't even feel it. So, like, this is the real deal. Like, this isn't some, you know, kind of magical technology. It's kinda you know, it's only for the exclusive people that have $200,000 for access, and this is this is real stuff. And and it's, what I like about it is it's getting back to the foundations of what does it mean to heal the body.
Speaker 1:Right? And it's really about as I understand this, it's about unlocking the body's ability to heal itself, and that's what this technology does. And so, like, that's so for me, like, this is okay. I'll get the PMF mask. I'll the PMF.
Speaker 1:I wanna get a sauna blanket too, because I've been looking into getting an infrared sauna, but they're expensive. You know, for you can get cheap ones on Amazon that are pumping you full of EMFs. But for a nice one, you're looking at 3 or $4,000 just for a single person. And so, like, this this whole combination is just great. So I'll pull up I know we've got so quick things.
Speaker 1:So red light, so I'll pull up the website real quick. Myredlight or myredlight.com. Right? That's the
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's right. This is for the red light. We have just so people know what what we're using. Let's see. I think that we have this one right here.
Speaker 1:The the well, actually, what do we have? Do we have this Repro
Speaker 2:600? Far far right. Yeah. It's the 300 pro max.
Speaker 1:Okay. Yep.
Speaker 2:Using. It comes with the free stand. It comes with the belt and has it like a free supplement bundle that comes with it. And so it it ends up being a really good saving. That that supplement bundle comes with a lot of information products as well, which, we normally sell for several $100, but you can just get that as a free gift in that package.
Speaker 2:And use the code Seth to activate the discount that you can see on that page. And so that that's easy. Like, that doesn't have Seth 25 or 30. It's just this Seth.
Speaker 1:Then I'll say too, like, when this thing arrived, I was blown away. Like, it's it truly is, like, medical grade. It's heavy. It's metal. It's got a little digital display on it.
Speaker 1:So that's what we have. And then so the the PMF and the sauna blanket, my pemfmat.com, and I'll put all these links in the description. So this is the again, we looked at this in the slides. But here, get the combination. And, the coupon is Seth 30.
Speaker 1:Is that right? Or Seth 25? And so those are the coupons that will unlock. Perfect.
Speaker 2:And Seth 30 for that combo of of both of the units to activate that extra discount. Correct.
Speaker 1:Okay. And one one last thing just so that way we just full transparency. I know you guys have blown up, and you've been so busy, you've you've had a hard time keep you know, keeping up with all the orders coming in because people are waking up to how powerful this technology is. But so in terms of the fulfillment times, it's not Amazon where, you know, click a button. It's next day delivery.
Speaker 1:So these mats so just just to kinda tell people, at the bottom of every product, it's it's telling you, right, your order will take six weeks. Right? So just, you know, the way I look at it, health is a long term it's a it's a process of patience in doing this. So just be very aware that it will take, you know, up up to six weeks for this to ship out. Not because, you know, you're taking the money and running.
Speaker 1:It's just because you guys have had so many orders, and you have such a high quality of standard of manufacturing that you're not just looking for the cheap mass produced items. I know you're intimately involved in designing a lot of this technology. So, whether it's the the mats or the red light. Right? So here red light says, or it will take four to six weeks.
Speaker 1:Just be aware of that, folks, is that it will take some time to come, but it will come. And, again, like, I'm I'm so careful. Cause I you know, a lot people, they trust me. Right? Not not just my family.
Speaker 1:I have people that are you know, I got a message from a guy on Facebook yesterday that had bought a red light, and he he was so happy. He said, hey. I have free to talk about grounding mats. He's like, what company do you use for grounding mats? I gave my recommendations, and he was like, I really appreciate that.
Speaker 1:I really trust what you're recommending. And so I'm so cautious. Like, I turned down nine out of 10 different products that people bring to me, you know, with advertisers or whatever, because it's like, wouldn't give I wouldn't recommend that to my mom. But my mom's got the same red light panel that we have. You know, she's taken CDS.
Speaker 1:She's, you know, taken Latriel from John Richardson. Like, she's completely, like, in line with what we're doing. You know, Biodefense from Brian Artis. So this is something that I I I genuinely believe in, the products that that you are are are creating. And and I I've never kind of fallen in that place of like, well, I can get cheaper on Amazon.
Speaker 1:It's like, yeah. It's gonna be cheaper. Right? And it's not gonna work as well. And and and that's what I've learned from you is that there are so many different, you know, specific criteria that it's easy to look at two things and think they're the same, but they're really not.
Speaker 1:And so but anyway, yeah. I'll make sure that every link and every description or in in the description for the show, I'll make sure that there's the links and the coupon codes for people. But, yeah, I'm I'm excited. Actually, I'm excited to order one of one of the sonic blankets and the PMF mats because, like, to me, it's like, I've now got my own med bed at home, and it costs a couple thousand dollars, and I'm okay with that. And it's gonna you know, it'll last me for a decade or more.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's amazing. You could look up the a mortal bed. It's a it's closer to a $200,000 mark, and they're using the the oxygen equivalent they're using is the hydrogen inhalation, which is cool. It's a good it's a good platform.
Speaker 2:But what I find is much better is exactly what you did. Yeah. It's like it looks sexy. Right? I like I like the
Speaker 1:Holy cow. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It made that look really cool. I'm I was a a sponsor at Dave Asprey's biohacking conference. I was a speaker there as well. And they they had their units and it is it's cool.
Speaker 2:But what's fascinating is that yeah. Yeah. So it's not it's for people that go to the clinic and and get that. But you're just gonna do better by having a PMF, being able to use it before you go to bed. You're gonna do better with instead of the hydrogen, using the chlorine dioxide.
Speaker 2:If you had the hydrogen as well, that'd be great.
Speaker 1:But They're not 200,000. They're only they're only a 159,000.
Speaker 2:So Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.
Speaker 2:And then, see what happens when you add in the the shipping and and the taxes.
Speaker 1:Oh, man. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You might might be closer to what I'm saying, but we'll see. But, yeah, exactly. It's But it's cool and I'm glad that they exist. If I had a clinic and we do supply beds to clinics and the devices that you have, they're in top clinics and people like you know, big household names are using devices in their clinics. That that, yeah, this just allows people to do this in their home.
Speaker 2:And that's the that's the really awesome thing. And for a fraction of the price, and that's that's always been my mission to give healing to to everyone and not let, price be a barrier and to to let people get their lives back and to educate people on on things. And I appreciate you putting your neck out there. I I'm actually help I'm I'm working right now in the case of Mark Brennan and his and his three sons that are political prisoners. His some of his son's still in jail right now because of the recommendation of chlorine dioxide.
Speaker 2:So, you know, if yeah. People that might think things are about the money, like, why would I do that? There's a reason why most of these guys aren't recommending things like chlorine dioxide. It's just because they they don't want the risk. But for me, like, how could I not talk about something that's changing people's lives?
Speaker 2:And if you do nothing, like, well, like and if it's not a good time for you, you know, go on Amazon. I there's a reason why I'll never sell chlorine dioxide. People should educate on it and not sell it or sell it and not educate on it because, you know, I we don't wanna go to jail. I can't do this work from from jail. So I really want to not go to jail.
Speaker 2:I've got sons to raise. But but if that happened, then that's, you know, I only did what I, you know, felt like I was supposed to do and called to do, and that's what we're doing, educating you on this. And then if you do nothing else, get out into the sun, lie down on the ground, and and then be you know using tools like chlorine dioxide the bathing and get books like forbidden health or achievedhealthvoedia.com voedia.com and you know get that book for $20 and you know look at the condition that that you have in that book and see the clinical studies or the Dev conducted on this and and use these tools. So we always want to be giving away free information helping people get their lives back and then enhance your healing with tools like the ones that we're offering because it you you know, you're seeing the results in people like Seth, and we just wanna help you get those those most optimal results and not have to be spending ridiculous amounts of money that put healing out of reach for
Speaker 1:most of point. Exactly. Well, Jonathan, it's been great, man. It's good to have you back on the show. Thank you for everything you're doing, and just take care, and god bless, man.
Speaker 1:It's always wonderful speaking to you.