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you can give me that. What a fool I am for saying, I don't know if I want that. Like, of course I want that.
I was like, who the hell are you and what have you done with What do mean you don't want that?
Here we go with a very important Dynamite, I would say, coming out of All In. We talked about it in the All In show of what were they gonna do to follow that up and where are we gonna go? Because they opened up a bunch of doors at All In. So which ones were we gonna walk through? We would get some of those answers, I think, tonight. So let's talk about it.
Yeah, I thought they went through a lot of doors, as many as they could, and not made it another six hour show. I think they did a pretty good job.
Yeah, I yeah, exactly. I think that they answered most of the questions that I have. So
Okay.
or or or I should say that I had coming out of All In. I think they answered most of them and the ones that they didn't answer are ones that I'm fine with you not answering them tonight. Like I'm okay with it, you know,
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
being on Collision or next week or whatever. Like they weren't
Okay.
the important, important ones. You know what I mean?
Right. Mm-hmm.
So let's talk about this and begin as we
We went.
so often do with the heat check. And I feel like I've started like eight of these in a row. So you go, bitch.
All right. Whore? Here
Dumb bitch.
we go. you better watch your shit.
I know. I'm gonna be in trouble.
I will go ahead and read my list of hot, but it's almost the entire show. However,
Yeah, mine is too
I'm gonna go because I I did highlight I thought the crowd for Ospreay at the beginning, so hot.
Mm-hmm.
Ospreay creating an AEW United Empire, love it. That whole opening segment.
Mm-hmm.
Loved it. Myron Reed taking out swerve and creed with that over the top rope, whatever he does
Yeah.
and the hurricane run at the same time. Get out of here. That dude's incredible. the swerve level in the that whole match, loved it. If you give me the Rascalz and new level every single week, I don't think I'd be mad.
Yeah, I agree.
I don't think I'd be mad at that. I thought the Bucks FTR and Cage and Cope were good. I liked the Ospreay United Empire in the back bringing in Andrade. I like that. I thought the Darby Mark Davis match was a little long, but I thought it was solid enough. And it may be because the Josh Alexander return. I don't know, but I put that All In hot. I really thought the MJF post all-in backstage promo was super hot. Loved it.
Yeah, me too.
seeing Divine Dominion on Dynamite, loved it. They and the Yeah,
I thought you might, yeah.
and the Megan Bayne, Alex Windsor match. Thought it was great. Backstage,
Yeah.
oddly, Jericho and Nick Wayne. I thought that was
Mm-hmm.
good. The Mercedes celebration with Thekla possibly being the best best thing about it. Loved it. Britt and Persephone interview. Short, sweet to the point. Loved it. Don Callis family, Kevin Knight, Kyle Fletcher. Loved it. Everybody in the selfie in the final match loved it. Holy crap, Callum Newman. Callum Newman. Super fast. And the whole
Jesus.
and the whole final match. I damn. This most of this show was in I there's hardly anything I have, not in the hot category. It's so good
Yeah.
tonight.
Yeah, I I agree with you on all that
Everything except for one thing is in the hot for me tonight. There's one mild and I bet you
Same.
can guess which one.
Is it the same one I have?
I think it is, yes.
AR Fox and Moxley.
Yep, that's a mild for me. Yeah. Yeah.
That was disappointing. because I really like AR Fox.
I do too. I I like him. I thought he looked good in this.
Mm-hmm.
But my thought and and once I say this, there's then no point in talking about it when we break down the show. My
That's fine. That's fine.
my one thought on this was like, yeah, AR Fox looked pretty good in it, but why are we doing it if he's not gonna win? You know,
I thought the same thing.
like it's an eliminator match. So you know, if you're new here and don't know how those work, he wins, he gets a future title shot. Well
Mm-hmm. Right.
He didn't win. So why'd we do it? Other than, you know, they've got a stretch by half an hour or whatever to make TBS happy. But I don't I just don't understand why they did it and not have him win. Like I have no problem with AR Fox winning there and they do a title match on Collision or whatever. That would have fine. So
Yep. Yep.
I don't I don't know why we did it.
I don't,
That's all.
I don't either. I thought, A, I basically felt the same way. wrote down, I think AR Fox deserved the win here. But I thought this match, even though it was good on paper, especially at the beginning, it felt clunky. And it just, I thought AR Fox was a little off at the beginning. He didn't seem to be quite as smooth as I know he can be. Cause he's... He's legitimately responsible for so many of the younger talent in training them. he started with like he and swerve were really close and a bunch of the other guys that have that style.
Darby
Yeah, he was super influential in a lot of those guys. So I thought we were going to give him the win and he does again, he doesn't have to win the title and he could have went to a time limit and made it through, you know, that's okay.
Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep.
So that That's really why it got into the mild for me is it felt a
Yeah.
little clunky. I felt he deserved the win. That's all.
Yep, I agree. I thought he should have won there. The fact that he didn't, I was just like, I'm not sure why we did this, but okie doke. So
Yeah. Yeah. Do you have any mayo for tonight?
No.
Okay. I put down that you knocked a bunch of stuff over before we started.
That's fair. I did and I pinched my finger in the mic stand too. Don't forget that. So I
I forgot about that one.
guess that should be in the mayo, yeah, because I
There we go.
super duper did that. Like like I don't know why there's a battery here, but there is. And like I don't know what I did, but it rolled off the desk. Like I caught it, but it rolled off the desk and I've knocked
Mm-hmm.
there's there's like pictures and stuff over to my left here. All I knocked all that over. It's all
There... There were!
Well yeah. And this this is what my headphones go on. There's a base to it. You'll note I'm not holding the base. I knocked this off. It's
No, you're not.
it's it's I'm doing good. Doing real good. Yeah.
Yeah, great night. Yeah.
But anyway, all right. So let's talk about this Dynamite live from Texas, where we have not one, not two, not three, not four, not five, six, or seven. We have eight. New champions here in AEW. I know.
crazy what happened at all.
And I think we saw all of them tonight, didn't we? All the new ones. I think we did. So let's talk about
Pretty much, yeah. I believe so. Yeah.
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Mm-hmm.
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I don't have the patience to make cookies. I'm not gonna lie. I will go into my next order telling myself I'm going to bake them. I know me, I've met me.
Yeah. Yeah.
I'm going to open up Basic B#tch, probably eat that in a day, and then go,
Yeah. Yeah.
okay, fudge, you're going in the oven. Not gonna happen. It's going right in my face.
Yep. I I will tell myself, yeah, I I will tell myself I'm only gonna have one bite and the rest is going in the oven. And that one bite will somehow encompass the entire jar. But anyway,
Yep, it's gonna be the whole thing.
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I'm stacked. Stacked? I'm stoked about it. I'm in-stacked. I will stack myself and be excited about it. Yep.
Yeah. You you could be both. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So let's talk about this show, the All In Fallout show. And you know,
Yeah.
Doug, they say everything's bigger in Texas. So how big would this show be? Waka waka. and it turns out the show is pretty good. Yeah, it turns
I was gonna say two and a half hours.
out the show is pretty big. we are clearly in a new era of all elite wrestling, and you know that. Because Tony Schiavone was not wearing a tie. And that is the official indicator
Oooooh!
that we are in a new era, if I may steal that from Triple H. So yeah. I think I just did. so
I think you can, and you just did. Yep.
as you pointed out, we had an opening promo from the new world champion Will Ospreay, which I think was to be expected. You know, they like to do that, have the new champ, and lots of wrestling companies like to do that, have the new champion open.
Mm-hmm.
It makes sense. I'm with you. I thought the promo was good. You know, it was a pretty standard Ospreay promo, pretty standard new baby face champion promo of I'm gonna put people over while also reminding you that the road runs through me. I do think it's very interesting him saying he's gonna build the AEW version of United Empire. I'm
Yeah, I love that.
yeah, I'm real curious to see who ends up in that. I think that is really interesting.
Yeah, I really liked that.
I'll tell you, I really liked Ricochet here. I
Mm, yeah.
really liked him. I suppose I should have put this in the mid now that I think about it. I do not care for Gabe Kidd. I don't I didn't care for him here.
I know you don't. I happen to think he did better tonight. I was okay with what he did tonight.
I didn't think he was bad per se, but this is the problem for me a lot of the time with these types of characters that are supposed to be so unhinged, is that you get a promo like that where he's just yelling and he's just spewing stuff. And I'm like, Will Ospreay did not cost you. the opportunity to become the first British world champion in AEW, you were nowhere near it. Like
Right. Yeah.
you were nowhere near it. So it would make sense if it had been like like this is nitpicky, but the it would have made more sense to me if it was like, you know, It had been like a triple threat that he was part of or whatever. And you c but but
Okay.
it's like you are nowhere near the title, my guy, and you still shouldn't
Yeah.
be. The fact that you're even remotely near the title kind of bums me out. So that
Okay.
that should be on a mild trending towards Mayo for me, I suppose. Again, I may come around on Gabe Kid. I just I need to see something from him beyond what I have seen so far. And and I know he hasn't been around a lot. And part of that is because I don't know when he ever actually officially signed with AEW and a lot of that time he was really still part of New Japan and then he got hurt. Like I get all that. He I
Right, yeah.
may come around on him, but I'm just not there yet.
I understand that, but I think I'm starting to come around a little quicker than you are because I thought I agree with the reasoning behind you're not liking this promo. You're right. He has no business claiming anyone cost him a title shot because where were you? But I thought his delivery tonight was much better than it has been in the past. He was even though his base argument made no sense. He was more coherent. And I liked how he got in Ricochet's face and was like, although this is what I don't like. And it's when you get to this, these types of promos where it's like, no, no, no, no. I don't want his belt yet. Then what do you want to do? Murder. Okay.
Right.
Maybe we don't say that. Maybe
Right.
we don't say that. Say you're going to take his soul. Say you're going to take his career. Say something other than that. Because that I don't like, but I do like the sentiment of I don't care about his title. I care about beating him up. Okay,
Yeah.
that I can live with, that I'm okay with. So while I enjoyed what he did tonight, you could tell that's where that promo was going and that part I did not enjoy. I never do though.
Yeah, I I mean, he was a pretty small part of it in my opinion, which is why I'm not I didn't I I probably should have separated it out and I didn't because I kind of forgot about him until I
That's right.
got to my notes here. And and to me, if the beef is gonna be, you won this championship before I did. The the guy in the dogs that that has a legitimate claim to that is David Finley, who we didn't even see tonight. Because at least with Finley, you can go, this guy's a former IWGP world heavyweight champion. I'm pretty sure he won a G1 climax to get there. Like, this is a guy who's got a pretty strong international resume, and at least he's got a a leg to stand on of like, okay. Congratulations, you won it, but now I'm coming for you know what I mean? Like that would have made more sense to me to have Gabe Kidd do it. Yeah.
Yeah, kids argument was, we're both British and I should have been the first British guy to win the title, but you did it, so that's like, okay. Yeah, like I said,
Right. Yeah. And it was it was just it was flimsy. It was flimsy. But anyway.
I felt the base argument wasn't strong. I liked the way he presented except for the murder. I was much better with his performance tonight on that
Yeah.
regard.
That's fair. again, it didn't bother me enough for me to make that big of a note of it. It just, you know, we're
Yeah, that's fine. Yeah.
we're here. then we got the trios title match between Swerve Level and the Rascalz. And I completely agree with what you said in the heat check. If they gave this to us every week, I would never get tired of it. I loved it. Loved it.
I don't know how much more I could have pouched for this match because you had the Rascalz. Like I said, if you give me any combination of the Rascalz and new level, I can watch that every week. You want to give it to me twice a week on Dynamite and Collision, I will be okay with it. I loved the match. This was my match of the night, even with the main event. This was my match of the night. I thought everyone was clicking on all cylinders in there. I loved the energy that new level is bringing. I loved swerve seems to be going in a new direction energy wise, like he is so on it. And how you keep these guys from being your faces is beyond me. Cause these guys are so over, so
Yeah.
over. It's ridiculous. So I loved this match. I thought it was great. Loved
Yeah.
it.
No, I I agree with you. So I I believe there are five matches on the card, four of them. I was like, this might be the match of the night. this is one of them. I was like, holy crap, that was good. And to me, it once again showed the Rascalz are so good. Like,
yeah.
I hope we build something here. I really
Mm-hmm.
do. I'm not saying that you put the trios titles on the Rascalz. I think it would be too early to switch it off of such
yeah.
a massive team. in swerve and new level. But I hope that we build an actual program here. I hope we get to see more of the Rascalz because that was so good. my God,
Yeah,
it was good.
and again, I just, I love Myron Reed. I think he is so talented. I think he is such a solid performer in that ring. Tell the six guys, give it to me every week. Just give it to me every week. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, it was great. It was great. It was absolutely great. then the Young Bucks would come out as swerve level. We'll come up with a better name. we're
Yeah, I know.
celebrating yeah, it's not my favorite, but we'll figure it out. New House level, new level. I don't know. we'll come up with it. But as they were celebrating, the Young Bucks came out to interrupt it, which on one hand So let me let me just put put give you my thoughts here. I went, okay, so this is inevitable, right? Because there's the famous Twitter bio from the Young Bucks of someday we'll wrestle the new day and it will be great. You know, it'll be incredible or whatever the bio was, and it was remember this bio, right? So this is inevitable that they're gonna square off. And I went, man, I just I really want the Bucks to stay in the tag title hunt. So even though Like, of course this would be great. Like, I don't know, man. I don't know that I want swerve level in the elite. And then as soon as I finished the thought, I went, okay, but now that I've written that down, I retract everything that I just said because that of course would be amazing. The elite and these guys, that would be amazing. Yes, you can give me that. What a fool I am for saying, I don't know if I want that. Like, of course I want that.
I was like, who the hell are you and what have you done with Tim? What do mean you don't want that?
That's I don't know if that contributed to me knocking everything over, like if if I have sustained
It should have!
some sort of head wound. I don't know. But
man
well, you know what it is? I concussed myself on the turnbuckles like Gabe Kidd randomly did it All In. I wanted to try to understand him. It didn't work, but it led to that. So yeah.
Okay, that's fair, yeah.
Yeah. so I do think it's inevitable that we're getting the elite and swerve and and new level, which of course will be orgasmically good, but
Yeah. And even if we get that, I have a feeling that they're going to keep new level for the trios and they'll work through that and they'll let the
Yeah.
bucks work through this tag thing. And then once that's kind of the dust has settled, then I think we're going to see new level in the bucks. But I could be wrong, but if you want to give me the elite against Swerve Day, who's level, my house, I don't know what the hell to call them. But
we'll figure it out.
if you give me those six guys too, yeah, you're right. That would
Yeah.
be great.
Yeah. I mean, that will be amazing. I I I agree
Mm-hmm.
with you. At some point it's going to be new level on the Bucks solely to pay off that Twitter bio. I'm not kidding. It's it's gonna be. And and it should be. And it
yeah, no, you're not wrong. Yep.
it may, you know, what happened next may lead to some of that. I really don't know. But so after that, then the young bucks were in the ring and they did pretty much exactly what I wanted them to do of point out, hey Legends, you couldn't beat us without cheating. Hmm.
Mm-hmm
F T R would come out and then Edge and Christian came out. And just like that, we have a basically TLC match for All Out between these three teams for the tag titles. And I mean, I I guess if you're gonna twist my arm, I guess I'll watch that. Yeah.
Yeah, man, you give me that CLT match, which is what I'm choosing to call it.
Yeah. Yeah. Well I I did like when they made it official that they just were like, it's a ladder match, which is the way to go about it. That is absolutely how they should go about it. But but we know what it is. Yeah. Yeah.
Yep. Yep. Yeah. We know what's going on. Yep. We know what's going on. So yeah. I thought that segment was good. I liked it. You know,
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
and I'm happy we're going to get that. So yeah.
Yeah. I liked you know, the the Bucks were really solid there. FTR was really good. I re
Mm-hmm.
look, Chr everything Christian does right now is perfect. I loved when when Cope was like, we're not those guys. And Christian's going, Yes, we are. Yes, we are. You know,
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
like like it was great. It was just great. It was a great little segment. It set up a wonderful match at all
Yeah.
out. They did a really nice job tonight of laying an excellent foundation for All Out.
Yeah.
So, you know, I yeah, I'm in. Let's do it. Like what more
Yep.
could you want, really?
Not much because yeah, they're paying it off. And I like the fact that they're, setting up All Out tonight instead of waiting until a Wednesday
Yeah, I I was a little worried and I'm glad they did.
before, because that I'm sure we're going to get some of that, but a match of this, you know, this importance should get a little bit of simmer time. And I like it. And now, now that
Yep. Yep. Again, they took them
it's said, you don't have to do much. You really don't.
No, you really don't. You really don't. Just like what we were talking about with the build to All In for the tag match, all you gotta do is remind us that this match is on the card and I'm in. You don't have to do a lot more with that. They will, but you don't have to. And but but like I said at the beginning, this was one of the questions that I had in a good way coming out of All In of what are we gonna do here? With the tag titles, because you had all those guys get in the ring to remind you how good this division is. So what
Mm-hmm.
are we gonna do? What direction are we gonna go in? Well, they answered that tonight. They answered it in a really good way. They gave a great answer. Awesome. Good job.
Yep. Yep. They dealt with it immediately, and I loved it.
Yeah. Good job. then we got that backstage with the United Empire. I did not know Andrade is apparently part of United Empire, but all right, learn that tonight.
Yeah, I'm okay with it.
Yeah. I I thought it was interesting that there's a little tension simmering there, with Ospreay and and Callum. I'm blanking on his last name at the moment. Is it Newman? Yeah, okay.
Callum? Callum Newman? I think that, yeah, that started in New Japan when Ospreay was asking him. And at first he didn't say, yeah, I'll be your second at All In. He kind of hemmed and hawed and then he's like, fine, I'll go. So I kind of thought we were going to see a little more tension in the match tonight that we didn't see.
I thought he was gonna turn on him. I thought.
But that being said, I have a feeling once Will starts putting his United Empire together, then we're going to see Newman be like, hold on, hold on. So
Yeah.
that could be a much down the road. And I'd much prefer that they wait because I'm loving them
Mm-hmm.
all together right now. I think it's great.
I agree. And and I think it's a really interesting little bit of story that they're laying there. Because
Mm-hmm.
the other question I have is, well, these guys are gonna go back to Japan. So I'm not quite sure how this is gonna play itself out unless they know that they're gonna sign and sign in a couple of months,
Right.
you know, in January, when typically those contracts come up for New Japan. And maybe they do. Maybe I mean
Yeah. Hey, I wouldn't hate it.
I I don't know. You know, I don't know. We'll find out. But it's interesting.
I wouldn't hate it. Yep.
It's an interesting little story beat there. Then then the TNT title match between Darby and Mark Davis. I don't know what to say about this other than, my god,
Yep.
Mark Davis beat the snot out of Darby.
He did. He did. Right off the shoot when he threw him over the table to
Yes.
hit the railing before
Yes.
he hit the ground. What?
so when Darby hit him with the skateboard and Davis came right back with the forearm, that
Mm-hmm.
was a stiff forearm. Holy crap.
Yeah, that was snug. That was a snug one
That was Snug.
right there.
Yeah. I mean, he beat the crap out of Darby tonight.
I was thinking watching him in the ring. was like, my God, Mark Davis in the eighties, they would have put them in like furs and called them a wild man or put them in overalls
Mm-hmm.
and called them some like country strong. Yay. Who? Cause he looks like a crazy wild animal man. He just
Mm-hmm.
He's impressive as hell and I'm so glad
Yes.
like they are continuing to keep him on the on tv and continuing to have him have these very very impressive matches and even though he lost It is hard to say that guy isn't amazing right now because he is
No.
just playing the role perfectly
Yeah, he he looked great. You know, Darby did Darby things that once again cement
Yes, he did.
that the boy will not be able to walk by the time he's 40, but you know, whatever. Leave
Mm-hmm.
it All Out on the field, I guess. This was a great match. This was my match of the night. This was a
I can understand that, yeah.
great match. I enjoyed the hell out. Even though there were times where it's like, my God, this is almost hard to watch. I really enjoyed it. I if they want to do more between these two guys, and I think that they might, I think that might be where we're going with it. Yep, you can sign me right up for that. Yeah. Then,
Yeah, I've got no problem with that. No problem with that.
yep. RPG Vice would come in to beat up Darby post match, which basically seems to be their role these days.
Yeah.
And then your guy, Steve Stingson, came in.
Yep.
And look, I know that he has not done a ton in the ring so far, and I know that's by design. God, he looks good with what he's done. That drop kick,
Yep, I think he needs some.
the height he gets on that.
Thank you. That's exactly what I was thinking. I was like, man, you talk about looking like his dad in surfer sting era with that drop kick. my God. Looks great.
Yeah. He he reminds me a lot of his father, and that is nothing but a compliment.
Yes he does.
And then Josh Alexander returned, which is cool to see.
Yep, had forgotten that he was in the Don Callis family because
Yeah.
I did see, because he also wrestled, he was the heavyweight champ for MLP, for Maple Leaf Pro.
I believe technically he still is because Stu is the interim.
They have that, they have, yes. So I have a feeling that once he gets back, those two are going to tussle
Yeah.
and Josh will get it. But, I had seen recently that he was ready to come back and had forgotten he was in the Don Callis family. So I should have been expecting it, but I was really happy to see him back in the ring and looking healthy and ready to go.
Yeah.
yeah.
Yeah. I again that's nothing but a good thing for these guys, for this company.
Yep. My gut tells me instead of having Davis and Darby, we're going to see Alexander and Darby move forward. But if you,
Mm. Duh.
as long as you keep Davis moving forward and slopping people up, I'm okay. So.
Yeah. Yeah. No, you're you're right. That's what it's gonna be. Duh, I don't know why I didn't think of that. Again, 'cause apparently I've suffered some sort of head trauma today. I don't know. yeah.
Can I be honest? When you went, duh, I thought you were saying, yeah, no doubt, dummy, of course that's what they're doing. I thought you were taking a shot at-
No, I just I don't know why that thought didn't enter my brain. Of course, that's what they're doing. So that that was aimed squarely at myself. I it does make me wonder. Yeah,
That's so funny that of course I thought it was me.
it does make me wonder what they're gonna do with Mark Davis. I think that they should r at some point in the relatively near future run him and Andrade back for the national championship. I know they're gonna
yeah, I'd be fine with that.
keep Andrade mostly in the world title story, and they should.
Mm-hmm.
But I think they should do that at some point and possibly
Yeah.
it All Out. I don't know.
Sure. Yeah.
That could be one of those that they put together late and I'd be okay with it. You don't need a lot
Yeah.
of build on that one.
Nope, that'll be fine.
So then you talked about it, MJF, the recorded backstage promo, I guess, after All In. I loved it. I loved
That was great.
it.
Dude, him, we've talked about this before. Unhinged MJF may be my favorite MJF and he is so good right now. It's just, he's great. He's great. It's hard to sit and listen to him and think, where is he making anything up? Cause he's not. He's not wrong. He moves the needle. He's so damn good. He's great on the
Yeah. Yeah.
mic. He's great in the ring.
I mean it's
Yep, prove them wrong. I dare ya.
and it was the same thing. I mean, like he wasn't wrong of the of the stand from the standpoint of Ospreay got involved. That's why I lost.
Mm-hmm.
And for a lot of other people, you know, you guys would have made a big stink, but it's me. So guess you deserved it. You know, like he he's not wrong. And what he what he has done is he has taken the best of when a heel is Cutting promos that are absolutely true. And he's taken the best of unhinged Ric Flair, right? He has taken NWA early days WCW Ric Flair and he just put
Yep.
it together, and it's so damn
he's when he is staring directly into the camera and it's like a lot of people that would come off as like melodramatic and almost comical by trying to be but with him it's like nope I believe you yes sir
Yeah. Yeah. And the way he did it, like getting really close. So really all you saw was his eyes. I was like, Jesus, this is so good.
Mm-hmm. Yep.
I don't know where we're going with it, but I don't care. Just let's go. Like I'm
No? Yep.
I am on board for the ride because God, that was good.
And here's what I liked about this show tonight is because that was filmed on Sunday.
Mm-hmm.
MJF was nowhere else on the show, but that pre-taped maybe 90 seconds, maybe two minutes, left such an impact on that show. It got MJF on the screen. It forwarded his story. It kept him relevant. didn't eat up a ton of time. I loved it. I thought this was a really well-paced show. I thought it was
Mm-hmm.
put together really, really well. And that's just another thing that I really liked about this show is, yeah, we got to see MJF. He didn't need to be there. He didn't need to interrupt anybody. Yep. And we got to see him be unhinged, which I loved. So yeah, loved it.
Yeah, yeah. It was great. Then it was Megan Bayne versus Alex Windsor, which I will say was really close to my match tonight. Like I was going back and forth
same.
a lot between this and the TNT championship match. I really enjoyed this match, which kind of surprised me, but I really enjoyed it. I was also a bit surprised by how much time they got, but it wasn't but not in a bad way. Like I didn't find myself going, this has gone a little long. I really enjoyed it. It was hard hitting. And I imagine that, Doug, this is how you wanted them to present Megan Bayne in the build to All In.
Absolutely. This is the Meghan Bain I think we should have been seeing before. And I'm really glad when I saw this book, I was like, please let this be a Meghan Bain win. I don't care how, but if you don't have Meghan Bain win, then this is kind of a pointless match. And I will admit this might've made my match of the night, but I did accidentally miss some in the middle. Thank you, dog Wallace for making me miss a little bit of that, but I missed some in the middle, but even everything I saw. This is how you should be seeing Megan Bay. She is a powerhouse. She is much better in the ring than I think they have been presenting her, especially on Dynamite and especially in those multi-person tags. I loved this. thought they both looked great. And I love the fact that it's continuing this feud because I was really afraid that once the birds won, you weren't going to see Divine Dominion. And I think that would have been a shame.
Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree with you. I'm all for continuing this feud, especially in this way. I I agree. It was it's an eyelash of a difference between this match and the TNT title for match of the night for me. And tomorrow I might go, I got that wrong. It should have been it should have been the women. Like I they were that good. So if you missed part of it because you cause you saw it on paper and went, I don't I get it. Go watch it. They were that
Yep.
good.
This literally that was as far as match of the night contenders. It was the opening match for me and then this one. That's how close they were. But yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I I would stack all I would stack those and the main event all like like there's
Yeah.
barely daylight in between them. You know what I mean? Like yes. Yes. It it was a really good show.
Those are those are photo finishes for the match of the night. You could you could take any of those any of those three heck any of the four we we've mentioned.
Mm-hmm.
I I'm not going to argue with you for match of the night contender at all. Yep.
Yeah. Yep. I agree. It it was that good. It was that good. If I remember, and I probably won't, but if I remember, I might put a poll on like Instagram and see how the vote goes. Cause again, this is one where I don't think there's a wrong answer. I really don't.
Yeah, same. Unless you pick Mox and AR Fox, then I think that's...
Well, that won't be an option for you to vote on because that would be wrong.
Yaw. Yaw.
Jericho and Nick Wayne were next. And
Mm-hmm.
I this is this is one of two things that you and I predicted on this show. Cause if you go back like a couple weeks, I think, I I I specifically said I was like, you know, Jericho should be working with like Nick Wayne. That would be a really good pairing. And look at
Yes. Yep.
that. Look at what we got tonight.
Yep.
Now, one thing I will point out, Mr. Jericho, is that is not in fact a Puka Shell necklace.
No, it was not.
With that being said though, it does make Nick Wayne look like a douchebag. So I'll let it
Mm-hmm.
go. I'll forgive it, you know.
But that is his brand, kind of.
Yeah, it is. Douchebag is kind of his brand. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
But this was really good. I I love putting these two together. Nick Wayne, as we have talked about over the last couple of weeks, I think has an extremely bright future. And I think pairing him now with a guy like Jericho, who can teach him a lot about
Yep.
how to put matches together, how to put promos together, all that stuff. I think it makes all the sense in the world. This is exactly the spot Jericho should be in is working with guys like him, helping
Mm-hmm.
them grow. Yep. On board. Let's do it.
I mean, look at who Nick Wayne has been affiliated with so far. Christian Cage and now Chris Jericho. I mean,
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
come on. Give them a... I hope they don't just have this be a one-off. I'd be okay with seeing... Just simply because I want to see how these two interact. I'm way more intrigued by these two pairing up than I was with Ciampa and Jericho.
Yeah, I I agree. And and I think that this is going to be a multi week thing. I I assume it's gonna build to a match it All Out.
I hope so, yeah.
Now I don't know if they'll go beyond All Out.
They don't need to.
I yeah, and I I'm not sure they need to. It depends entirely on the story that they tell. They may find a way to extend that and that that'd be fine too. But I
Here's
think this is gonna build to All Out and it should and yeah, keep these two together for at least a couple of weeks.
Here's what I really liked about this is they got into a scuffle, Nick kicked him in the junk and just left him lay. He didn't go ridiculous overboard on beating him up. You just kicked him in the nuts and called him a douche bag and shoved him down because that seemed that's so in character for him. And I think sometimes they get a little too carried away with their backstage beat downs. And this one, I just really liked it. I thought it was really well done. And I do love these two together and I think it's great.
Yep, yep, totally agree. Totally agree. Then
Yup.
it was time to celebrate the CEO, Mercedes Monet, and I will say this might be the first time I've seen a celebration like that where it didn't get destroyed.
I was so certain. I
Yeah.
texted you, I put it in my notes, there's a table, which means someone's going through it. I could not have been more wrong.
Yeah, and and you know, usually those pictures on the easels behind her come into play somehow and they get knocked down and beat up and nope, none of that.
No one came crawling out from underneath the table for a sneak attack.
Yeah. Yeah.
There was no cake to be smashed faces into.
Yeah. Yeah. And you know what? I applaud that. That was a good swerve.
Yeah, way to subvert my expectations in a good way.
Yeah. Yeah. And I I thought Mercedes did a nice job on the mic as she always does, but really to me the highlight here is Thekla. Thekla interrupting
Absolutely.
her and pointed out the gimmick infringement, which you had pointed out several weeks ago. Yep.
telling ya, I knew, I knew, I was so glad. So glad when she started to, go, here it comes, here it comes. Yep, dumb bitch. Yep.
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Loved it. Loved the whole thing. I think I really like Thekla being next for Mercedes, which I think I assume is where this is headed.
I assume so too. I would guess All Out, but we'll see.
I would think so and I like it. Let's do it. I think it's gonna be a lot of fun.
Yep. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Then Britt Baker and Persephone did a promo. Now, what I found interesting about this is it leads, or I should say, it lends credibility to the rumors that have been flying around that Brit is really back to just manage and is probably not going to wrestle or not very much, which is probably fine because with all due
Yeah.
respect to Britt to Britt Baker, and again, I am a fan of hers. Let me be clear. I've really
Yep, same.
liked her from the jump. When you look at where the women's division has kind of evolved to, I don't know that Britt can hang as well. Like the in ring stuff was with her, was always like, yeah, it's not bad. You know? You you you would get matches out of her where it's like, that was pretty good. But there would also be some things in all of those matches where it was like, well, that wasn't great. And look, that can be true of anybody.
Mm-hmm.
I just I think If they're gonna have her more in that managerial role, I think that actually might be the best fit for her right now. And again, also you're talking about a woman who, as far as I know, has not wrestled at All In two years.
Right.
So I wouldn't toss her in the ring right away either. But
No, probably not.
but what I find interesting about it is Persephone is a pretty good promo. So I find it interesting
Yeah
that that's the first pairing. With that said. I really like these two together. And
Yeah.
I'm this is one of those where I go, I'm not sure where we're going with the TBS championship. I don't think that they answered that question tonight, but they didn't have to
Not really.
answer that one tonight.
No.
They can wait and you can put something together for All Out or whatever, which I assume they're going to.
Mm-hmm.
And you can wait a week or two on that. And that's fine. It doesn't have to be a question that is answered tonight or even necessarily next week. But I like that they put them on TV, that they reminded people that, like, hey, this is a legit threat in the women's division. I liked this.
I I enjoyed and I'm intrigued by Britt Baker saying Persephone is gonna take this to places it's never been and just kind of leaving it vague and leaving it open-ended. And it's like, okay, that's a tease that I could get down with. I can wait for that and see. And you know it's possible with those two. know Persephone has the, she's got the skills in the ring. She has showed it. She is legitimate. I love seeing her in the ring. And you're right. She's a great promo by herself. I think adding Britt to the mix as like a manager kind of mentor is good because she can get in the ring to do what she did like at All In and just put a move or two on and then get out
Yep.
and.
Yep.
that's okay for the time being. And then if you want to transition her into wrestling more, that's fine too. But just I think having her back, I'm just, I'm happy. I'm happy she's back. happy Persephone is winning. I really like these two together. This is a really good pairing.
Yeah, I agree. And I think that if somewhere down the road these two Persephone and Brit tag more and Persephone does most of the heavy lifting, I think that's fine. I I have no issue with that whatsoever. So we'll see.
Mm-hmm. would watch them wrestle. Yeah, without a doubt.
Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see where this goes. but again, you didn't have to answer that question tonight. You did a good tease with that. this was good. This was good.
Yep.
And then it was Mox and AR Fox, which the rhyming aside, that might be the best part of it. And now I kind of want them, yeah, I kind of want them to be a tag team now. Mox and Fox.
Mocks and Fogs and Fogs on Mocks. Yeah, yeah, on a box. In socks.
Eating locks.
Eating logs.
We talked about it in the heat check. We don't need to spend more time on it. We didn't need it. Yep. It happened. We didn't need it. Whatever.
No, it, AR should have won. Whatever. That's fine. Yep.
Okay, so you missed part of the women's match. I missed this Don Callis family promo 'cause I ran upstairs to go to the bathroom and I really have no idea what happened. I saw the very end of it. So
I really liked it because they're interviewing Don Callis and she's like, you know, look, you had a couple setbacks and Kevin Knight immediately goes, Hey, hey, hey, hey, don't say I failed. You had Sting and his entire family out there. They cost me my match. And Kyle was like, yeah. He goes, but your title didn't stay in the family. at one point, Kevin Knight calls Kyle a flamingo. That's so funny.
Do I
And then, and then so Don Kalis is like, Hey, the only person, the only person who followed my plan was the only guy that kept the title. And Kyle was like, don't tell me about Okada. And that's when he came in was like, Kyle, family, family. And then he just, yeah. So
That part I saw. That's literally what I saw was Okada saying family. That was what I saw. That was
Yep. So with Don making Fletcher and Knight tag this weekend on Collision, could be great. I think it could be hilarious. I almost hope they actually find common ground, because I think that is a hell of a tag team if they can gel together. I think that would be really, really interesting.
Yeah, that's that is an interesting pairing for sure. So hmm, okay. All right. I'll I'll go back and watch it at some point, probably.
I mean, do or don't, you got the gist. That was so funny, because it caught me off guard. And I was just like, like.
I I might just for the flamingo line, but nice. Yeah. So then it was main event time, Andrade United well, I guess it's technically all United Empire, but Andrade United Empire and Will Ospreay versus the Demand and a couple of dogs.
Mm-hmm.
I really thought at least Callum was gonna turn on Ospreay in this one. It did not happen.
I did too! I know!
But I really thought it was gonna happen. As you pointed out earlier, my God, Newsom Newman is fast. I keep wanting to call him Newsom. I don't know why. Newman is so fast. God is he fast.
I wrote down I like every single person in this match. I liked
Mm. I agree.
the chemistry. liked the act. mean, this was again. Top three match of the night contender for me. I just happened to pick the first match. I could have picked this one. I could have picked the Megan Bayne. and Alex Windsor match. I picked the first one. I love this match.
Yeah, it was really entertaining. It's really, really good stuff. They did a great job of showcasing the three United Empire guys, which again
Yep.
makes me think they probably are headed for AEW come January, but we'll see. Or at least a couple of them are. I loved it. I thought it was really fun. The pacing was really good. I really enjoyed the spot with the the little Italian guy chopping G O A. I I thought that was really funny.
I think they did that once before and I'm okay they did it again. But I'm fine with it. I thought it
Did they? Okay. I didn't remember it, but
was hilarious.
yeah. It w I really, really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed the match. I I have nothing bad to say about it. So then
I don't think I've ever seen anyone throw a jumping head butt from bouncing off the ropes. And that was bonkers. Love it.
Yeah, it was it was yeah, I really enjoyed the whole thing. So
Mm-hmm.
then there was some post match shenanigans, put it that way,
Yes, there was.
and then the Death Riders come out, and it did
huh.
create a fascinating question of who are they here for? And I really didn't know what was gonna happen, and this is where I really thought the turn was coming. And it didn't.
Mm, okay.
This is where I really thought that Callum was gonna turn on him.
If you notice though, when the Death Riders came out, everyone else had left except for Gabe Kidd. No one else was there. They all fought to the back. It was just Gabe Kidd beating
yeah, yeah.
up on Ospreay and who else was he beating up? Andrade. He was beating up on them by himself. Everyone
Yeah, you're right. I just Yeah.
else left. And then when the Death Riders music hit, went... 10 bucks mocks steps between them is what I thought. And sure enough, that's what happened.
Yep. Yep. I so my first thought when he got between Kidd and Ospreay was if this leads to Gabe Kidd and Mox having a program, I'm on board with that. I'm far
Mm-hmm.
more on board with that than Gabe Kid lurking around the world title.
Yes, same.
That is not what it turned into.
Well,
Out of
I don't think that necessarily isn't going to happen.
I I agree. I'm not saying it's never going to happen. But my thought
But.
was if you're gonna turn this into a match for the Continental title at All Out, like yeah, okay, cool.
Right. Yep.
But that's not what it turned into. Out of nowhere.
It did not. I was a little surprised by that.
I was shocked by it. Out of nowhere, just like Randy Orton, we get a graphic that Mox is taking on Ospreay for the title at All Out. Now, I will say this at least Mox played it like he was surprised by it too.
Mm-hmm.
And so at least you and I weren't the only ones going okay.
However, when he was holding on to Will,
Yeah.
he was just staring at him, right? Before
Yep.
the graphic came up, if you notice,
Yep.
if you go back and watch, he kind of like had this expression like, well, guess what? And he was kind of glancing over there, like he knew it was going to happen, but he was too early
Yeah, obviously he knew.
on it. But like, he was gonna say like, you might want to pay attention to the big screen. And then he acted surprised. And I was like,
Yeah. Well, if you look at it like he turns and looks at it and he kind of because he's got Ospreay by the back of the neck and he kind of turns Ospreay's head towards it too. There is an argument, and we won't know we don't know because we only saw what we saw on TV. I the crowd popped before we saw the graphic. So there's an argument that the
OK.
way that went live in the arena is the graphic came up right as they turned and looked at it. But on TV it looks like
right before we got to see it.
they knew before we did.
Yeah, that's entirely possible. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I think that graphic came up before we saw it on TV. Now,
Mm-hmm.
on one hand, you can you can say to me, Well, they should have shot it from behind. So we see it at the same time as the live crowd, but you would have lost the facial expressions on that. And the way that
Exactly.
they shot it is how they should have shot it, in my opinion. So I don't mind that. I wouldn't call it like an error or anything. I don't mind that. I think that that's how it went. But you know, look, I I like I said, I give Moxley credit for acting like, okay, I didn't know that was coming. I think it's a
Mm-hmm.
little weird to make the match out of nowhere like that.
I do too. I have to be honest. This is one of my minor pet peeves with how AEW does things like this. That they have a stare down for eight seconds, a graphic appears, and the announce team is like, Tony Khan just made it official.
So that that was one of the things where
in like seven seconds.
Yeah. Excalibur going, and it is official for All Out. I went, was was it ever teased? Like that was one
Nope.
of those where I just went, I think in the moment Excalibur just crutch on saying it is official. Like I I think that was just kind of like a muscle memory thing from him. And and
Could be, but they do it all the time.
I no, I agree with you. They do it all the time. But I think I'm I'm I love Excalibur. I really do. I think he does a great job. I think you gotta be a little bit critical of him in that moment because the way that probably should have been played on commentary was, wow, okay. Well, apparently
Yes.
at All Out, we're gonna get, you know, he should have been as shocked as they were.
Yeah.
So with him starting it by saying it and and it is official for
Right.
All Out, well, it wasn't teased at all, you know. So that was a that was a mistake on his part.
No, we didn't even get Tony Schiavone going, talk about a bombshell. Because that's a Tony Schiavone line from what you know. We didn't
Yeah. Yeah.
get that. And again, this is us just fricking nitpicking.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's that's a mistake. It's gonna happen. It's live TV. It's gonna happen. You know, it's okay. It's a little weird doing it. It's a little weird to put it together like that with no build
Mm-hmm.
to it. that said, I have no problem with the first title defense being against Moxley. Because,
Mm-hmm.
like I've been saying, I think you gotta line up these big The top guys for Ospreay to beat. And I and it's not because we need to know that Ospreay can do it. This isn't like when Darby was defending left and right and they were really, you know, converting us to, you know, Darby as champ and going like, okay, wow, no, we were wrong, you know. It's Will Ospreay. You don't have to sell me on him. But with that
Yep. No. Nobody.
said, for him to start mowing down these guys, I don't have a problem with that. You know
Go!
Because I think he should have an extended run with the title. So
Mm-hmm.
for him to go through Mox and then Andrade is going to be in there somewhere. And you can drag out the Andrade thing if you want. Not super long, but you can do it. You know, I still think I think Swerve is gonna pop up in there at some point and he and Ospreay's gonna beat him. I think Hangman's gonna pop up at some point and Ospreay's gonna beat I think MJF is gonna be in there at some point. And I do think Ospreay's gonna beat him. Now that one will give me a question mark, but I think he's gonna there may be a rematch with Omega. Hell, he might
Yes, here's
even beat Jericho on the way, which won't have the weight that it used to, but you know.
Right, but it'll be a decently okay match.
Yeah. I I don't think it's a pay per view, but you know, doesn't have to be.
Yo, but this is where I started thinking about, want Ospreay to have a long title run, but it's like, okay, at All Out in less than a month, you're taking on John Moxley. MJF said, I'm going to get you and you won't see it coming. I'm wondering if MJF is going to cost Ospreay the title at All Out. I don't think it makes a lot of sense, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. I'm not saying it's going to happen. I'm just wondering, are they, or I'm more inclined to think he's going to attempt to screw him over.
I think that I
But you have to agree, it's not out of the realm of possibility that he cost Ospreay the title and he's a month in and that's it.
I don't, yeah, I don't disagree with you on that. It's not out of the realm of possibility. It's certainly a non zero chance. I don't know that John Moxley is the guy you do that with, though. And and so this is where this whole storyline is a little bit, a little bit weird for lack of a better term for me. I
Mm-hmm.
think it's a little early to well, no, I think it's way early to announce the match between him and Mox. You could have built to that a just a little bit more, right? Because you've already laid all that storyline. So if you had done the stare down tonight and then you did another something next week and then you make the match the that third week, I think that timing lines out a little bit better.
Hell, even if you waited till Collision to make the announcement,
Sure.
give it the three days, then that makes a little more sense. Then you
Yeah. So I
have at least the faux story of the, you know, after Tony, you know, saw
Mm-hmm.
them stare down and he's like, let's just get this out of the way. Let's make this happen, yada yada, whatever you want to say. Even that, even
Yeah. I
that little delay would have made a little bit more sense.
Yeah, I I agree. So I think the timing of announcing the match tonight was a little bit weird, especially because you had so much story that you could already build on. You don't have to do much more build to it. But
No.
whatever. Okay, fine. It was inevitable. We all knew it was inevitable. That's fine. I don't mind you doing it first. I think MJF costing him the belt to put it on Mox doesn't make sense because the other part, if you look at it from MJF standpoint, First of all, the thing I would be looking at is who can I get the belt onto that then I know I can beat? Right. And if I'm MJF, I don't think I want any part of John Moxley. I
You're not wrong.
really don't. So that would be the first thing I'm looking at. Second thing that I'm looking at, which actually Darby is a name to watch as a potential challenger at some point.
OK, yeah.
'Cause Darby would be the guy. If I'm MJ F, I want it on Darby
Mm-hmm.
'cause I know I can beat him, right?
Or I would say maybe ricochet since he has his
Ricochet.
toes in the ring tonight.
Jack Perry would be an interesting name to watch as well.
Yes.
But if I'm MJF, I want no part of Mox. But to me, one of the critical parts of MJF's promo was him saying, You're gonna be waiting for it for so or Howard rephrase it, that you're gonna be begging me for it by the time I do it. So I don't think it's gonna be fast. I think he's gonna taunt Ospreay for a while.
I hope so.
I think that this is gonna go probably eight weeks, maybe longer. So, you know, I if I pull let me pull up their calendar and see what show I think it's actually gonna happen at. But I think that it's gonna get drawn out longer than All Out. I mean, you've got Grand Slam France in October, which would be an interesting one to keep an eye on because you they're gonna treat that
Mm-hmm.
pay per view level.
Yeah, they are.
Wrestle Dream comes not super long after that on the seventeenth of October, full gear in November, Dynasties and Dynasties in February. Are they not doing anything in December? That's interesting, 'cause usually World's End would be in there. And World's End is actually an interesting one if they do that in December. Cause World's End has kind of been the MJF show. Like those
Mm.
have that's kind of been an important one for him. And they like to
Right.
do that. That would be an interesting one to watch. But regardless, I think it's gonna be a slow burn. I d so I don't think they're gonna they're gonna do it at All Out. That said, certainly been wrong before. So it's a non zero chance.
Like I said, it just, it just had me a little concerned that that could have been the outcome. Do, am I sold on that? No, it did get me thinking about
I don't think you're wrong.
it. And it now after hearing what you said, I can definitely see MJF showing up and may having it be a distraction, not doing anything, but being distracting enough to piss off. Ospreay.
Yeah.
And then that continues. He's like, what? I didn't interfere. You interfered in my match. I just came out. I didn't do a thing.
Yeah. Yep. I didn't do anything. Yeah. I didn't do anything. I just I just wanted to watch the match. That's all. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Let's see it. Yeah.
Yeah, I've heard you're so good. You're the go. Let's see. So I can see that more now that I'm thinking it out loud.
Yeah.
That is a much more likely possibility. But again, it did make me wonder. It's like, they going to do that so soon? I hope not.
Yeah.
But again, AEW likes to keep you guessing incorrectly.
They do. They do. Like I said, I think it's a non zero chance that he screws him out of the title at All Out, but I think it's going to be a slower burn because they like to do that as well.
Mm-hmm.
What what I think is the most interesting sort of angle with all that is the Andrade stuff, right? Because Andrade at some point is going to cash that contract in. And, you know, they changed it where you can't just run in and do it. It's you got to announce it. Which is gonna give MJF time to plot how he's gonna get involved in that. And I suspect he's gonna. Now, whether it's screwing Ospreay so that Andrade wins and then MJF fights Andrade for the title or he screws Andrade out of it, I don't know. But I
Mm-hmm.
would imagine that he's gonna get involved in that somehow.
More than likely, yeah.
So whenever that happens, I would definitely circle that as MJF is gonna do something there. But anywho, but you know, again, l this was another one of those questions coming out All In of who's gonna be first, who's gonna be the first challenger for Will
Mm-hmm.
Ospreay, and they answered it. Granted, in kind of a weird way, but they certainly answered it, and they gave it a big
Now,
name.
they, he definitely could face someone else in between then, someone
He could.
that's not gonna be a contender, a real contender.
Yeah.
I doubt it, I hope they don't. I hope they just wait for his first actual defense to be at All Out, but
Yeah.
it's possible.
Well, again, this isn't a it it's not the story that Darby was doing, right? Where Darby's gonna be the fighting champion and all that
Right.
stuff, you know, and hangman has done a little bit of that. This isn't that. This is a guy who has been building for a long time to the moment that he got, and so we're gonna, you know, I think they're gonna play it more in the sort of traditional championship reign of I don't think he's gonna defend it outside of the pay-per-views that much. I think he will, but not a lot. So
Right. Yeah.
I I don't imagine it's gonna happen between now and All Out. I think they're probably I think they're probably gonna go more with, you know, a similar build to the Omega match of probably gonna be a lot of promos. There might be a tag match somewhere in there. of you know Ospreay and somebody versus Mox and one of the Death Riders. I th I that's probably gonna happen.
Probably yes.
but you know, we'll see. It's it's an interesting it's an interesting couple of weeks of T V and
You know, you saying that now, talking about the tag match,
Mm-hmm.
it makes me wonder if, okay, say they do a tag match with Mox and one of the Death Riders, and with Fletcher, not Fletcher, with Ospreay and Callum Newman. Is that when Newman turns on him during that match?
Maybe. Certainly possible.
Mm-hmm.
I don't know. Because that seems inevitable too. So yeah, I don't I don't I don't know. I mean I what what tonight told me though, the one thing I know for sure that tonight answered for me is they have a they have an extended plan here. Like I imagine
Mm-hmm.
they've probably got six plus months of the world title planned out.
Right.
I like I really believe that. And barring injury, they've got a plan. And that's cool. So,
Yeah.
you know, I don't I don't have any issues with it other than it was a little bit weird to just announce the match like that for All Out. But that's that's nitpicky. And again, it at least makes sense in storyline of like this was inevitable. We all knew it was inevitable. So okay, fine.
Hmm?
It was just a little a little weird, but I don't care. That's nitpicky. And it's clearly
It's a little weird, but that's okay.
presenting a lot of storytelling options, and that's What you want. So,
Yep.
you know, again, it's part of them answering questions, and it was a good job tonight. They answered the world title question of who's first. They answered the women's tag team question, I think. They answered the men's tag team question for sure. You know, so really
Mm-hmm.
the only ones left are what are you going to do with the TBS title? They were intentionally vague, and it's interesting. What are you going to do with the TNT title? My guess is. Darby versus somebody from the Don Callis family. But again,
Right.
that's not one you have to give me a lot of build on. That's okay. You
No, no.
know, you didn't have to answer that tonight. That's all right. you know. Yeah,
Probably gonna be Josh Alexander, but...
probably gonna be Josh Alexander. Yep. I keep see, I keep forgetting about that. But yeah, probably gonna be him. the international title, I think they they didn't answer it tonight, but they didn't have to. But they certainly planted some seeds of where we may be going next with that. It's probably going to be Fletcher and Okada again,
Mm-hmm.
which is fine, you know. And again, you didn't have to answer that question tonight, because it's not like a major, major storyline. I think in terms of
No, because the story is more of what's happening within the Don Callis family, not necessarily that title.
Right. Right. And they answered the question of who's first for Mercedes with the women's world title. They answered that tonight. Yeah,
Yes, they did.
it's not official, but they answered it. So you took, I think, you know, you you obviously took your two biggest in the men's and women's world champions. You answered that question. You took the two tag teams and you answered that question. You know, okay, I don't know who's gonna challenge for the trios title. I don't care. You don't have to announce that right now. It's okay. So
Yeah
You answered your major questions. You answered a couple others. And the ones that you haven't, like I said, that's okay. You can answer it next week or the week after. It's fine. That's okay. So I think they
Yes, I mean you've proved it with the trios titles. You have plenty of teams to throw at them and they would all be legitimate. So I'm okay with that.
Yes. Absolutely. Yep. Yep. Yeah, I agree. I have no issues with this show tonight. I think it was a it was a show that in a lot of ways had a lot riding on it coming out of such an incredible performance that they put on it All In. And I think they hit it out of the park. I think they did
Absolutely. I do too.
a great job tonight.
Like I said, I thought this again, not unlike All In. I thought this was a really well put together show. I thought it was really well paced. And even the one match I wasn't as super thrilled with, the Mox and AR Fox match, it was probably positioned as best it could. And that's okay that that
Yeah.
paced match was where it was at. So I
Yep. Yep.
really have a hard time knocking anything on this show. It was really good. Really happy.
Yeah. I think the stuff that that we have quote unquote knocked is nitpicky.
yes.
and and I think, you know, look, it wasn't that long ago that we were sitting here going, What are you doing? And
Yeah.
now we're sitting here going, Huh. Now what are they
Mm-hmm.
doing here? And you note the difference in the tone, you know, like it's an important difference.
Exactly. Because leading to All In, we were real worried going, do they have a plan? And coming out of All In, we're like, I can't wait to see their plan.
Exactly. And and they clearly have plans and they clearly have plans for at least four championships. I would imagine there's a plan for the trios one. They just haven't announced it yet, and that's that's okay. Actually I
Right. And even if you don't have one immediately, that's fine.
Yeah, actually I would say there's probably a plan for six because they teased the TBS. So they've got some idea there, you know.
Mm-hmm. Yep.
So they're doing really good. They're doing really, really good.
Yep, I just, I need to remember, I need to trust the process. I just need to trust the process. But tonight I was wearing, you know,
Yep. It's hard to do it sometimes, but yep, I do too.
I was wearing my fantasy Booker pants and I couldn't help myself.
Yep. Yep. Well, that's half the fun of this is letting us fantasy book. So
Hell yeah.
All right. So now we continue the build to All Out, which got off to a really strong start tonight. So we'll see what they do next week. My guess is right. Here's here's my guess for next week. They will probably make the Josh Alexander Darby Allen TNT title match official for All Out. That's my guess.
Probably, yep.
I think that'll get made official. They may make the Thekla Mercedes match official. They might let that go another week before they make the match official, but we're clearly headed that way. Yeah, I think that's fine.
They can do that. Yeah, they can do that.
Yeah, but I think they'll make that T and T title match next week. That's the shot I'm gonna call now. So
We may get the women's tag title official next week or it may wait a
Yeah.
week. I'm going to assume we're going to see hater against Lena Cross next week. Probably
That's my thought too, yeah.
with a very similar outcome and then we might get what you hate which is the champs calling out the challengers. Just a gut feeling.
But you know what? In that situation, I don't mind it though. I I really don't, because I think it's in character for the brawling birds, but also it's a, okay, you've been kicking our ass. Fine, let's do this. Like that I don't
Hmm?
mind. It's when it just is out of nowhere, you know. That's what I don't love.
Yeah, you mean like the TRIOS Championship? Like that was? Because
That one or
that was kind of out of nowhere.
Yeah, it was that one and then it was what was the Copen Christian one that really bugged the hell out of me?
when they called out Death Riders or the Dogs? I can't remember who they called out.
I think they did it twice because they did they did Death Riders and they did it also with FTR where they they called
Mm.
them out and I'm like, what are you what are you doing? There's no reason for that.
No, I think the one that made you mad was the Death Riders one because it wasn't
It did.
any of the Death Riders that made sense. was, it's like,
Yeah.
okay.
It was just like, okay, let's do it. Why? Why? Why? You guys are old. Take the night off. Like Yeah. Anyway. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Let them come to you. They've got what you've got, what they want. Not the other way around.
Exactly. Anyway. on that note, we're on to next week and we'll see what they do. But strong, strong opening. I guess strong, strong opening tonight, really. So
Yeah. I can guarantee you this for All In. By the time All In gets here, I will have eaten all of my Doich. All of it.
Well that's true 'cause All In happened.
I'm sorry, All Out. Let me rephrase.
Yeah.
Damn it. I'm All In on the Doich Foods cookie dough and I will be All Out before the pay-per-view. How's that? Does that work better? Okay.
Yeah. There you go. That works much better. Anyway, all right, we're done. We're out of here. Follow us, share the show, give us the five star reviews, and go to DoichFoods.com and I'm gonna go knock more shit over, I think. Yeah.
Elite E. good for you. Watch your fingers.
Nope. I guarantee nothing.
fair.