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What is Man in America Podcast?

Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.

Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.

After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.

He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.

Seth Holehouse: 00:00

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. As we approach November 3, the presidential election, one of the biggest questions that I've had is what's their playbook? You know, we know what role COVID played in the lockdowns and the changing of voting laws in the twenty twenty election. But as we approach what I think is an even more important election in determining the fate of this country, you have to ask yourself, what's the plan?

Seth Holehouse: 00:30

The pandemic two point o hasn't really caught all the other things, the riots. They can't really bring out BLM riots again, just not working anymore. But one thing I would say we can't ignore is the border. And so my guest today, JJ Carroll, is an ex border agent, spent two and a half decades working on the border, running teams on the border. He's a highly, highly intelligent guy who really understands the role of the border.

Seth Holehouse: 00:59

And so he's working on a documentary right now, not just on the border, but what's happening once these illegal immigrants come into this country. And the information that he's come across, whether it's whistleblowers from, the DHS or people in inner city Chicago, the picture that he's painting through all of his research and discussion and travels is a frightening picture. It's a picture of hundreds of billions of dollars from our own government going to NGOs, non governmental agent organizations that are then funneling these immigrants in this highly, highly organized fashion in a way that he's never seen before. And so many of them he's seeing are going into Chicago into these already war torn areas. And what he believes, as will detail this, is that a war is coming, And that this war though will be sparked not between Americans and Americans, but between the most difficult places in this country.

Seth Holehouse: 02:00

The most hardened places with criminals and violence and gangs between these areas and massive amounts of illegals coming in that are coming straight out of the prisons, specifically in Venezuela, and being placed right into these areas of Chicago creating, as he describes it, a powder keg. So this is gonna be a very more serious but sobering discussion about what's happening in our country and the role of the open border and how I think it will actually affect everyone's way of life come November this year. So folks, please enjoy the interview with JJ Carroll. Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you.

Seth Holehouse: 02:42

So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey. Buy this gold. Buy this silver.

Seth Holehouse: 02:55

Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices. So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 02/2023, the average family home is just over $400,000.

Seth Holehouse: 03:12

So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No. It's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right?

Seth Holehouse: 03:22

When people talk about the collapse of the dollar or inflation, this is what it means. Now let's take a look at gold. So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside.

Seth Holehouse: 03:46

If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today. What can you buy with $4,000? Can you buy a family home? No. You can't even buy a crappy used car.

Seth Holehouse: 03:59

But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals. It's not about getting rich. It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver, because what it's doing is it's protecting you.

Seth Holehouse: 04:43

This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the nineteen thirties. We're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome. It's still around. It's an asset that will forever have its value.

Seth Holehouse: 04:59

So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than doctor Kirk Elliott. He's a very good friend of mine. He's a strong Christian patriot, and he's out to really help people to protect their savings and what you've worked for against the destruction of the dollar, not to mention also protecting it against the dangers of a central bank digital currencies. So to learn more about this, go to goldwithseth.com or call [phone]. Again, that's goldwithseth.com or [phone].

Seth Holehouse: 05:34

Both those places will allow you to set up a quick appointment where you can talk to a wealth adviser that will help get you started on this path. Again, goldwithseth.com, 7 2 0 6 0 5 3 9 0 zero. Mr. JJ Carroll, it is an honor to have you back on the show. Thank you so much for being here with us.

Todd Callender: 05:53

I come back anytime. You just tell me when. I love your show, and I love the long format you give me, and the ability just to talk in-depth about a subject that is so layered and so complex. So pre I appreciate the time, Seth.

Seth Holehouse: 06:08

Absolutely. Absolutely. So you're an ex border agent. You you if I re recollect correctly, it was, you know, two and a half decades or so that you spent on the border yourself, running teams, you know, intimately involved with that entire operation. So, you know, I've had you on before talking extensively about what we're seeing, specifically with the special interests, you know, aliens, the military age men, etcetera, coming across the border.

Seth Holehouse: 06:35

And we've known all along, and you've pointed out the a lot of the criminality is coming from within our own government, and it's allowing of this keeping the borders open. But I saw a recent clip with you on Redacted, which is a great show, by the way, with, Clayton and Natalie Morris. And you're detailing I know that you're you're doing a documentary right now, and you were talking about what this whistleblower had told you from within the DHS about the funding. And this was mind blowing to me. As soon as I saw this is like the within the last twenty four hours I saw that clip, I got ahold of you immediately and said, look, we got to get you on the show because and we're talking hundreds of millions, hundreds of billions even, it seems, that is being poured into this from our own taxpayer money.

Seth Holehouse: 07:23

So I'll go ahead and hand it to you though, just to explain a little bit about what you experienced from the this this particular whistleblower and the other whistleblowers in the process of your documentary.

Todd Callender: 07:34

Okay. First, let me just tell your audience, the partnership between the NGOs and the federal government is like a crime. It's like mob bosses coming together and colluding. That's what it's like. But here's also something I want your audience to understand, that this DHS individual and he's not a whistleblower.

Todd Callender: 07:57

I know that we talk about whistleblower. I can't get anybody to talk to me on camera because everyone's scared to death of the government. Think of that. They they won't talk to me because they know the government is going to destroy them. So I have to cover their face, digitize their voice.

Todd Callender: 08:14

But he said to me, JJ, the federal government doesn't run the NGOs, the NGOs run the federal. They tell the federal government how much they're gonna pay us, where they're gonna take the people, and what they're gonna do. And the federal government just says, okay. So this, we call him a whistleblower. This gentleman from DHS, he was the check cutter.

Todd Callender: 08:37

He wrote the checks. Okay, so this is a guy that's not 10 times removed from from or he just came across some piece of paper and he's like, oh my god, look at this. This guy was in the belly of the beast in D. C. In DHS writing the checks to the NGOs.

Todd Callender: 08:55

So I said to him, Okay, tell me, let's walk through this NGO thing. And you have to kind of walk through it to understand it because it's complex and it's layered and it's criminal. So criminals organized crime, I should say, doesn't just do things willy nilly like it gets layered and they stuff off. So I said, Okay, walk me through this. He goes, Okay, you have Lutheran Family Services, Catholic Charities, a couple of the big ones, but let me just focus on Jewish Family Services.

Todd Callender: 09:24

I said, Okay, tell me, what's the largest check you wrote? Well, the largest check I wrote was $600,000,000 And I was like, Okay, hold on. I literally I just had to say, Okay, hold on. For what? For two, three years?

Todd Callender: 09:43

And he goes, no, for about two or three months. And I was like, Okay, hold on a second. And he goes, no, JJ, it's worse than that. I said, it's Okay, it's worse than that. I said, Okay, hold on.

Todd Callender: 09:55

I need to get clarification. Are you cutting a check for 600,000,000 to cap to Jewish Family Services and then that negates Catholic charities and United Way, he goes, no. People in the DHS are cutting checks at the same time for the same amount to Catholic charities. And I said, Okay, you said it gets worse. Then tell me what it gets worse.

Todd Callender: 10:18

How does this get worse? He said, because under Jewish family services or under Catholic charities, but just in particular, Jewish family services, There are tens, 50, a hundred subcontractors underneath Jewish family services. And he said, you have to understand the federal government created this boondoggle, this invasion with no real thought of how I'm going to move millions of people from point A to point B. So there came the NGOs. So he says, are in a frantic emergency.

Todd Callender: 10:51

Position, meaning when you see FEMA go into emergency, they're not counting the nickels. Right? They're just throwing money. Okay, same thing on the border. They're just throwing money.

Todd Callender: 11:03

So my source says to me, so after Jewish Family Services gets $600,000,000, the subcontractors, like hyenas, come in for their scraps. And it's like 5,000,000 for diapers, another 5,000,000 for food. Hey, we need COVID tests because you know how much COVID test costs to get get analyzed, Seth? Two thousand dollars a test. Let me say that again, Seth.

Todd Callender: 11:29

Those free COVID tests that you stick up your nostril or swab yourself and you test it yourself. Well, illegal aliens need doctors and nurses, and they charge $2,000 per COVID test. And it gets better every time they move them, Seth, they have to retest them, right? They have to know what they are. So millions, hundreds of millions of dollars for COVID tests.

Todd Callender: 11:52

I digress. So they say that the hyenas come out and they say, I'm subcontractor X. I need $5,000,000 for diapers. And I said, Okay, do you call Jewish Family Services and say, kick money down? He's like, no, his frantic were frantic.

Todd Callender: 12:10

I just cut a check for $5,000,000 for diapers. And he says, this is where the criminal activity even goes further. He says, I will cut that check to subcontractor X. But do you know where the electronic funds transfer goes to? It's like, no.

Todd Callender: 12:31

Well, it goes to Jewish Family Services account. I said, wait a minute. You just gave them $600,000,000 but you're giving money to the subcontractors. That's like I have a general. I pay the general to build my house and my subcontractor and I make it I make a change and I have to pay the subcontractor.

Todd Callender: 12:51

Right. I pay the subcontractor or I pay the general and the general blows the money down. No, it's a it's a it's a just a free grab at money. So Jewish family services get 600,000,000, but then it launders money through their subcontractors back to their same account. This is criminal, Seth.

Todd Callender: 13:13

When this is all said and done, I need your audience to understand. Per government data. They are saying on the low end, after Joe Biden's four years, he will have spent somewhere around 700,000,000,000 with a B. The real number is over $1,000,000,000,000. We just spent $1,000,000,000,000 on illegal aliens.

Todd Callender: 13:40

It's shocking. And when you dive and this is the thing, and I'll finish with this and you ask me more on NGOs, but I need everyone to understand this. I'm a guy with twenty four years in the Border Patrol. My last year was Joe Biden's first year in his office. I dealt with those NGOs.

Todd Callender: 13:59

I dealt with all of it. And back then, it was chaotic, meaning. The NGOs bringing the people up from the Darien Gap to the border with all the caravans was clunky, it was unorganized, getting them across the border and process, it was clunky. Having the NGOs come to the station, get the bodies, everything was in. Nothing moved smooth.

Todd Callender: 14:26

Now, today, it is the most well oiled, well run industrial machine I have ever seen in my life. From the Darien Gap all the way to Chicago, New York and Boston and everywhere else in between. They have built an assembly line, a conveyor belt that is so impressive. It is so big that even me, the guy that was down there in the belly of the beast, I go back to the border and I go to Chicago and I see these these transit hubs, if you will, and I am jarred because I can't believe how big and smooth and well managed and funded this machine is. It blows your mind.

Todd Callender: 15:11

Again, I'm rarely surprised. I'm rarely shocked. I was shocked and still to this day can't really grab the enormity of what is happening to our country.

Seth Holehouse: 15:25

There's a saying that I heard at some point, and I was enjoying I always thought it such a good saying. And it said, a blind man groping an elephant. And talking about a blind man feeling it, he feels a leg. He's like, oh, it's a tree. And he feels the trunk, and you think it's something else.

Seth Holehouse: 15:40

But what if you take a step back, you realize it's an actual big elephant, but being he can only see one part of it. And so with this, I think this to me pieces together one part of it. Right? That, okay, we know the borders being used to bring in a fifth column for our enemy states into our country, whether it's Chinese soldiers, UN soldiers, Russian soldiers, terrorists from Middle East, etcetera. We know that there's the government is involved in massive human trafficking, drug trafficking, arms trafficking across the border.

Seth Holehouse: 16:16

We know these things. Now with this and saying that this the funding of this, we're talking over a trillion dollars going into this. To me, these are the different parts of the elephant. In your mind though, what is the bigger picture? What does the whole thing look like?

Seth Holehouse: 16:33

What's the big elephant look like sitting there? What is the at the highest level you can imagine, what's happening right now? Because this is insane. And any small slice of it you look at is absolutely insane. It makes no sense if you care about the future of our country.

Seth Holehouse: 16:52

Yet when you put all those pieces together, it's a much scarier picture than any one of them on their own. What do you think that that picture is?

Todd Callender: 17:02

I think that picture is the fundamental transformation or destruction of The United States Of America. I do not say that lightly. I'm not trying I'm not trying to get clicks and not trying to improve my social status and social media. I'm just telling you what the hell is going on. Listen.

Todd Callender: 17:21

I had theories based on real facts and research and experience, but I love to means test what I what I believe. I am telling you without hesitation that everything that we are witnessing is intentional, purposeful, and it's been strategically planned. Therefore, I'm flying home from Chicago last Sunday after three days of just filming, filming, filming, and I'm flying home and I'm thinking about everything that I experienced. I start thinking about my beliefs and I start thinking about. How did this get to this point?

Todd Callender: 17:57

How did we get this big? How how did it get to the point where it is a a military operation, a machine that is destroying America? And all I could come to, Seth, was there had to have been the highest level in our government sitting around a roundtable and planning this out. There is no other explanation, meaning the president who we know that doesn't know what plan is on, but his cabinet under my orcas, Susan Rice, etcetera. They had to have planned it.

Todd Callender: 18:32

This doesn't happen by happenstance. And you say, well, give me some give me something to hold on to. I can do all day. April twenty April 2022, my orcas flies down to Darien Gap in Panama. Michael Yawn, Investigative Reporter, happens to be there with a drone.

Todd Callender: 18:51

He flew in there on the Blackhawks. He catches my Orcas in there talking about building migrant transit centers. He goes down there and builds migrant transit centers to help think of way stations for illegal aliens to come in, get medicated food, clothes, shelter, and then continue on their journey. He has built regional processing centers in foreign nations. He has removed and destroyed the border.

Todd Callender: 19:20

He has arbitral agents doing other than arbitral duties. And I can go on and on and on. There had CBP one app where you get your iPhone and you say, I want to get amnesty in asylum. Okay, come to this port of entry and we'll let you walk in. That's unconstitutional.

Todd Callender: 19:39

They had to make a conscious decision, Seth. Cannot release under immigration law. You cannot release an illegal alien to America. So there had to be a conscious decision to say, we're going to create this alternative to detention where I put an ankle bracelet on them, and therefore I say that individual's detained. But that individual goes on and rapes young kids across America, kills and murders and rapes people like Lincoln Riley all across America by the thousands because he's still detained.

Todd Callender: 20:09

Do you see that there had to have been the highest level in our government in coordination with religious groups and corporations to strategically plan the destruction of America? And that's where I believe we're at. I think we are at the final stages. You are seeing the rush to the border now where illegal aliens are saying they're asking, what's the franticness? You're going to get in.

Todd Callender: 20:38

No, we're afraid Trump's going to win and then it's going to close it down. Think about what the people that are coming here are saying. We are seeing the complete replacement of The United States Of America. Seth, right now, nobody argues. Nobody on the left, the crazy media, no one argues the fact that there are 45,000,000 illegal aliens in The United States Of America.

Todd Callender: 20:59

And people like myself believe the number will eclipse 50,000,000 by the end of his term. 50,000,000, Seth. That's one in six people living in America is an illegal alien with the vast majority of single adult military age men. I just came from Chicago, Seth. The day be the day after I left, a video comes out of these savages from Venezuela are having a knife and machete fight in the same street that I was standing on and filming.

Todd Callender: 21:28

This is coming. This is in America. You are seeing you asked me what the big picture is. The big picture is you cannot globally reset without America falling. You can't.

Todd Callender: 21:40

Sweden's about to fall. The Netherlands are about to fall. You see that very attractive woman, I forget her name, I apologize, that is talking about the demographic shifts in Belgium, Netherlands and Sweden. If those nations fall, it's it's gonna be terrible. But does anybody really care economically, world power wise?

Todd Callender: 21:58

No. America falls, the world changes overnight. And that is what is going on. I know it's hard to I know I know I sound crazy. I know.

Todd Callender: 22:09

I understand it. When I'm having interviews with people like you or I'm I'm giving a speech at at a Republican GOP conference or whatever, I have an inner voice. I'm not just blurting this out. I have an inner voice that's saying, Okay, you have to say this part out loud, JJ. I know no one's going to believe you and they're going to say you're crazy.

Todd Callender: 22:29

But I have to say it because it's true. I just like I'm I'm patting my book, my my invaded book. As I'm writing that book, that's less than my final edit is less than a year ago. I am in the middle of the night writing my book and their time says where I pause, I say a quick prayer to God that I'm not wasting my time writing this book. And then the second thought is nobody is going to believe what I'm writing.

Todd Callender: 22:53

They are going to call me vile names and they're going to say I'm crazy. Everything I wrote and everything I predicted has already surpassed my predictions. We are beyond even what I wrote about a year ago. Seth, you've had me on your show. Very appreciative multiple times.

Todd Callender: 23:12

The last time I spoke to you is about four or five months ago. The whole landscape has changed. It's frightening when you understand the enormity of the people and the machine. It will keep you up at night. I promise you.

Seth Holehouse: 23:33

Well, I have to say that I talk to a lot of people just, you know, on the show and in regular life, and to me, you're one of the most sane people. I find that most people don't want to talk about these things. It's like someone has a cancerous tumor hanging off the side of their neck, and they don't even wanna acknowledge it. That's a lot of people that I've talked to. Less so as guests on the show, because I tend to find people that I think want to figure out what's really going on, but so many people, like they're walking around this big growth on their neck that they're just ignoring, And they're pretending that it's never gonna never gonna affect them.

Seth Holehouse: 24:10

They're gonna live their life. Life will be great. It's the new normal. But that thing's eating away at them. And if they don't do something about it, it's gonna take their life in two or three years.

Seth Holehouse: 24:20

And like, wanna talk to the people that are saying like, hey, man, you've got a big thing on your neck. Let's deal with it right now before before it gets to be too big. And that's why I enjoy speaking with you. So you mentioned well, you mentioned Chicago, which I wanna I wanna dig into Chicago and and learn about what you're seeing there. But also understand how the landscape has changed, as you mentioned.

Seth Holehouse: 24:44

And I know that you were in Chicago that relates to documentary that you're working on. So do you wanna explain or give a plug to the documentaries or a website I can pull up to help, gear people towards looking forward to when it's coming out, or is it too early for that? What what do you say?

Todd Callender: 25:00

We we have a website. Our documentary is called What Is Treason? But our website is Thisis Treason. Thisistreason.com. We have a give, send, go, which I hate plugging that, but the costs are exorbitant because as Seth, I am talking about.

Todd Callender: 25:19

As I'm talking about this and going on Chicago and we call it legs, more legs of this this tour, and it's going to come up. I'm sorry. It's it's it's going to be up tomorrow. I apologize. The this is this is treason.com will show up tomorrow and be fully functional.

Todd Callender: 25:40

But more people want to be a part of it. They're calling me people that very high level people saying I have information, I'll speak to you. I got to fly to Chicago. I got to fly to Colorado and Florida. And it just adds up, as you can imagine.

Todd Callender: 25:53

So I have a gift saying go backslash saving America to help because this is all self funded because. The reason why it's self funded. Is consciously. I've been approached throughout my career and then after I retired where people wanted to do a documentary. But We're not aligned and I'm not going to make a soft puff piece.

Todd Callender: 26:17

So when my business partner, Ryan Matta, decided that, hey, he came to me and said, we're going do this. I want to do this documentary with you. I said, we're going to have to find either a one donor or got to self fund because I want total control. Not as a maniac, but as somebody that wants to control what I'm going to say, my name's on it, my face is there. I don't want anybody saying that's a puff piece or that's ridiculous.

Todd Callender: 26:44

I want it to be very focused because when you look at the the the enormity of this, Seth, it's like I the best way I can describe it is like a mutant octopus with eight arms, but it has 100 arms, 100 tentacles, and they're reaching out across America. So. That's what we're doing. We're self funding. It is getting bigger and bigger.

Todd Callender: 27:09

It's bigger than even I could have actually dreamed. I thought, Okay, I'm going to have a voice and I'm going to I'm going to have a megaphone, but maybe I really just going to have like a little karaoke microphone. But now it's as if I've never seen anything like this because again, and maybe the reason why is I'm a strong believer in the truth has a ring to it and people are drawn to the truth. Martin Luther King, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, all the men that talk truth and honor. People want to hear it because they they're drawn to it.

Todd Callender: 27:46

So we can talk about anything you want. Chicago is the reason why I went straight from the border to Chicago. Chicago is ground zero for the manifestation of this treason. New York is bigger, has more illegals, has more problems. Boston, same way.

Todd Callender: 28:02

Denver, on and on. But Chicago is a powder keg ready to explode.

Seth Holehouse: 28:08

So before you start describing why it is that, by saying that Chicago is ground zero, or what you're saying is that that's the the hub, that's that's kind of the where the the main stage of this invasion is really setting itself up. I mean, know, walk us through this because I've been Chicago a bunch. I used to live in Ohio, you know, it's a six hour drive for us to go easy, fun trip, you know, go to Sears Tower. It was always nice. I always loved Chicago.

Seth Holehouse: 28:41

I've been there a long time. But why is I mean, geographically, can see it. It's pretty central, you know, to the overall country. But why is Chicago so special and what's happening in Chicago?

Todd Callender: 28:53

K. So before I went to Chicago, I just had a gut feeling from all my research and data and calling friends and saying, tell me, I think Chicago is ground zero. And let me maybe clarify what ground zero is to me. Ground zero is not decentralized thinking of Amazon Prime distribution center. I just see the combustible forces coming together in Chicago.

Todd Callender: 29:16

And they're just gonna ignite and explode. When I went to Chicago for three days, I just did interviews and filming three days straight. I went into the South Side Of Chicago. I had to be escorted by a convicted felon that has been out of jail for murder for twenty one years.

Seth Holehouse: 29:36

Folks, I have a quick message for you. Look, the twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that had infiltrated our country and are currently running it. And they either have to win or they're gonna destroy America so nothing is left either way. And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, especially as we head in to this next year and this next election cycle because unfortunately, I think it's gonna get rough. And one of the ways I know they're going to target us is through our food supply.

Seth Holehouse: 30:09

You can see all the food factories burned down, you can see the warnings of coming famines and food shortages and everything like that. And food is one of the number one ways totalitarian regimes have always used to control the populations destroy the food supply. So if you don't have at least two, three, four, five, six months worth of stored food, I highly recommend you take that very seriously. Because look, as I mentioned, if you're the person that's watching this, you're the person that carries the burden of making sure your family is prepared. I would recommend at least six months, if not a year of storable food.

Seth Holehouse: 30:41

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Todd Callender: 31:24

I met the founder of the black disciples that runs Englewood. I talked to soup kitchen chefs. I talked to street pastors, everyone in between, megachurch pastor pastors that are that are building multimillion dollar facilities for their community. I talked to politicians in the GOP, precinct leaders, white businessmen outside of South Of Chicago. But all of the black Americans, black residents living in Chicago, they all told me and validated everything that I believed.

Todd Callender: 32:03

And they said, and I'm going to quote, we are at war. And I I said, Okay, I need you to clarify war because war to me is death and destruction and pain. And they said, yes, we are going to war against, and they make it very clear, the Venezuelans. Illegal aliens are pouring into Chicago by the tens of thousands, probably 1,000 every day. The vast majority are single adult military age men from Venezuela.

Todd Callender: 32:34

They have a vicious gang called Trend de Aragua, and they have another gang, prison gang, because all their prisons got emptied into America. And for whatever reason, and I interviewed a multitude of Venezuelans, and I said, why did you choose Chicago? And they said, well, because when we crossed the borders, Catholic charities told us you go to either New York City or Chicago. So we chose Chicago. They are funneling Venezuelans.

Todd Callender: 33:06

I asked the black residents from women to violent gang members and reform convicts. I said, what is happening that makes you feel that you need to war? You go to war. And they told me, they said, and not my words. I I just left everything open.

Todd Callender: 33:28

They said, we are being replaced. I said, okay. I said, I agree with that, but tell me give me a a specific. Before I tell you the specific, I want you to understand that there are two Americas. There is the America that we live in, Seth.

Todd Callender: 33:45

And then that's their America. Third World inner city Chicago. Roads are torn up. Buildings are shuttered. Housing.

Todd Callender: 33:56

Townhome, if you want to call them a house, maybe it's called a house, are shuttered. The ones that are living in are dilapidated. It is a place of desolation, hopelessness and despair with violent crime as the backdrop. And I said, well, give me an example of your replacement. Chicago, City Of Chicago just paid us $1,000 to leave our rent, leave our apartment.

Todd Callender: 34:26

He says we left because it's so dilapidated. They won't fix anything. The landlords won't fix anything. So I took the money and now we're moving out trying to find another place. And I said, Okay, is that going like is that citywide in Inglewood?

Todd Callender: 34:39

Yes. And he said, I said, Okay, well, what are they doing? They tearing down the buildings? No. They're allowing the Venezuelans to live in there.

Todd Callender: 34:50

Because the rent of Venezuelan has a $9,000 voucher from the city for rent. $9,000, Seth. So they're moving the blacks out of their community and moving Venezuelans. I had pastor Brooks. I don't know if you ever heard of pastor Brooks.

Todd Callender: 35:08

He's the a k a, the rooftop pastor that Tucker Carlson. He went up and lived on a roof for like one hundred and twenty days during the winter of Chicago because Nick on on this building is abandoned, had prostitution, rapes, drug dealing right across from his church, his community center. And he's telling me, he said, Listen. You are one Venezuelan away from raping a young black girl. In the inner city or you're one black.

Todd Callender: 35:40

Gang member killing a Venezuelan gang member? And he said this whole city is going to explode. Explode. I went to further, and I this. I'm rarely shocked, but I had a conversation with a precinct leader in the GOP, and her specialty is education.

Todd Callender: 36:00

And she's rattling off numbers like this to me. And she says to me, do you understand, JJ, that? There are 330 ish thousand students in Chicago teachers union in school district. And she said 48% of them are illegal aliens. Said 48%.

Todd Callender: 36:23

Yes. And I said, well, and she goes, and do you know that Chicago's Teacher Union was down in Venezuela in 2016 and 2019, setting up the avenues for illegal aliens to come into Chicago. You're looking at Chicago is being decimated. The blacks Americans, the black Americans in Chicago are saying to me, we are children are going to schools with illegal aliens. English is a second language by multiple of multitude of languages.

Todd Callender: 36:58

Their reading proficiency is 13%. Their math proficiency is 7%, meaning 93% of their students cannot read or write. Or do math. This is so when I say, Okay. That's that's a replacement.

Todd Callender: 37:21

And then she says to me. JJ, the black population in Chicago in the inner cities has decreased to about 700 ish thousand people, and it's dropping daily. She says, is this a coincidence that two two weeks ago, our mayor, mayor Johnson, said, and I quote, we have room to take in 700,000 illegal aliens. And she said, do you think that's just a coincidence, or do you think they're replacing us? After every and she sounded like me, Seth.

Todd Callender: 37:54

She said, after everything that I told you, all the data points that are real, do you, JJ, think that this is just happenstance? And she's not. This is planned out. And I'm telling you, Seth, as the gang members told me. They said, we're going to war.

Todd Callender: 38:14

Do you know how much weapons we have? Do you know that we have 100 round drums from our our machine guns or or M force? Do you know that we have thirty, forty round magazines that go in our handguns? You think we're going to lay down? And here is the last thing I want to say to drive this point home.

Todd Callender: 38:36

You have black men and women, but particularly black men in in Chicago that feel disrespected, humiliated, oppressed. They feel forgotten, and they're resentful. But I named one thing in that list that on top of everything else that they're going through, they all said, I feel humiliated. They are humiliating us. You were talking about a group of people in Chicago for decades.

Todd Callender: 39:09

That have been in a war state, a survival murder to capital, do you think that that's not gonna play a part in the Democratic Party destroying the black community with illegal aliens? And you say, well, you know, that's far fetched. Oh, really? You think it is? I was there.

Todd Callender: 39:32

I talked to these people. Nobody has access to them. I had I had to go through one, two, three people to get me to Tyrone Mohammed and and the Don to get me passage into the inner city, to get to sit down in a roundtable and talk to these people. Chicago is going to burn, and they told me it is going to happen. And then I have to one more point.

Todd Callender: 40:01

Democratic party knows this, Seth. They know it as well as I do or probably more. And that is why this week, the Democratic Party said, well, we might not have the Democratic convention in Chicago. We might do it remotely. Remotely.

Todd Callender: 40:19

Do you know where they're having the the the convention they're having on the West Side Of Chicago, inside the hood, the same as the South Side? What in God's name were they thinking? I spoke to a lieutenant in the police department, Chicago PD, and he said to me, and I quote, we are unprepared for everything that's gonna happen when the DNC comes. And I'll further this and paraphrase. Our federal partners are so concerned for us because we are not ready.

Todd Callender: 40:53

It is a the bomb has been built. The the wick is out. Who is going to light it? Who's going to light that fuse? Is it going to be a murder?

Todd Callender: 41:06

And you say, well, JJ, give me give me some kind of context. Well, the day after I left Chicago, Seth, the exact same street that I'm filming on in Chicago. Eight, Ten Venezuelan illegals are having a huge knife slash machete fight in the street. And overlooking them, Seth. A hundred yards away.

Todd Callender: 41:35

Right here, you're showing it. This is what's happening in America in America. We have violent crime that you can't imagine. Do we have this, Seth? Do we have people with machetes trying to hack each other in the street.

Todd Callender: 42:00

This is Chicago. They do that to one of those black gang members and they cut him. Those black gang members are going to come out in droves. They are going to align with each other, and those black men in that city are going to destroy everything in its wake. And you know what?

Todd Callender: 42:21

I don't I don't condone violence, but when a man is pushed all the way to the back and you take their home and you destroy their family and you leave them in squalor, what do you think is going to happen? Let's put it this way. Why do they feel humiliated? Chicago has already spent $3,000,000,000, that's with a b, on illegal aliens. Let's go further.

Todd Callender: 42:46

Let's bring it right down to the to the grassroots dirty, dirty secret. As you come off the exit into South Chicago, into Chicago, you will see giant. Like a tent facility of small camping tents lining hundreds of U. S. Citizens living in utter squalor.

Todd Callender: 43:09

Like I came in with a suit and walk because I had do an interview and I walked through that with Mark Carter, a street activist. The stench of of rotting feces and urine was so powerful. It it, like, it it permeated through my clothes. These poor Americans, drug addicts, mental illness off the chart. Why do I say this?

Todd Callender: 43:35

Because, Seth, two hundred yards away, Seth, are four beautiful bright white tents that are enormous, like wedding tents with beautiful signage about free clothes and food and medicine. And this is the transit area for illegal aliens coming into Chicago. It gets better. Once they get processed with new clothes and food and medicine and they get their little chit where they're going to live. Well, they can't be uncomfortable, Seth.

Todd Callender: 44:09

So we have five city buses sitting on the on the curb, idling twenty four hours a day so that they can come on there. They don't get cold or get too hot in the summer. And I asked one of the guys, I said. He started bemoaning the fact that he feels left out, and he's righteous. And he says to me, Seth, and I gotta tell this story because it's powerful.

Todd Callender: 44:33

He says, during the winter, it's so cold. If you ever you from Ohio, you know, it's like you leave your house, you're bundled up. I was in South Dakota for a while. It's five below zero and the winds whipping. You maybe run out to your car or if you go grocery shopping in your brain, you're like, I'm freezing.

Todd Callender: 44:54

I can't wait to get home. Now imagine living in a tent with holes everywhere. You're living on the ground. On the ground, there's no cushion. You are freezing.

Todd Callender: 45:05

As he said, my friends had frostbite on their fingers and toes. And he said, then we walked down to the buses. And we could see people sitting in them and eating their food, and they were warm. And we are knocking on the door. Please let us in.

Todd Callender: 45:26

And the bus driver yelled through the the door, didn't even open it. This is for migrants only.

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Todd Callender: 47:12

American citizens were freezing to death. They didn't have a new meal. They haven't eaten all day. You and I can have a discussion, Seth, about how much money should go to homeless, what's the mechanism, what works, what doesn't. Yes.

Todd Callender: 47:28

That's a fair argument. What you can't you can't argue with me is that I'm going to allow my brothers and sisters to rot and die on the streets when you have millions of dollars poured in for illegal aliens to stay warm and feeding them and clothing them and medicating them. While our brothers and sisters are struggling, not struggling, they're freezing to death. The summers are coming in Chicago. Hundred, Hundred Ten, Hundred Fifteen with the the permeating of the heat off the asphalt.

Todd Callender: 48:08

But the illegal aliens are going to be in cooling buses. They're gonna be fed free meals a day. Does anyone in the audience, does anyone in America have a problem with this? And then if you do, you need to understand, you need to times and times millions of incidents and situations that are happening daily in America. It's a moral sin on our nation, what is happening.

Todd Callender: 48:38

There's no other way to talk about it. And we haven't even discussed the child sex trafficking through the NGOs or the drug deaths that are that are tripled under Joe Biden or the devaluing of our money. Did our federal government, Seth, cut a trillion dollars out of the budget? No. They printed a trillion dollars to pay for illegal aliens.

Todd Callender: 48:57

And then you wonder why your grocery bill is so high. You wonder why it costs x amount more dollars to fill your tank and gas. So don't come to me that, well, that's just Chicago. I was just on a call with one of the activists and he said, make sure your audience understands. Once it gets out of Chicago, it's across America.

Todd Callender: 49:16

And I said, dude, it's already across America. It just hasn't come out yet. They're there. But it is a it's a terrible time. I I love my country.

Todd Callender: 49:29

I despise our government.

Seth Holehouse: 49:36

So when you say that Chicago is a powder keg, I I feel like I understand a lot better now. We know that the government's intentionally taken not as a government, Hollywood, the music industry, the big tech, you know, the the media, that you know, they're of course, they're all fingers in the same hand, and they've taken certain areas and certain demographics and certain people in our country, and they've pushed them to that very edge, and they've filled them up with ideas of violence. They've encouraged violence. You look at the amount of shootings in Chicago every single week, and how many are being killed, shot, injured, etcetera, how many children. So what I'm seeing that this is is and I've been trying to really war game the scenarios leading up to the election.

Seth Holehouse: 50:30

And you can see that they I feel like they're they're really planting the seeds of civil war, and and I think our last show was specifically talking about civil war. But I think that Americans won't go into a civil war. Too many of us, I think, now recognize what that flag behind you stands for. Too many of us see how desperate the situation is in our country, and we won't go against our neighbor, even even if their political views are different. And I think that they know that, because I think that there has been a mass awaking of the American people, and a lot of people are coming together.

Seth Holehouse: 51:04

You look at the polling numbers, etcetera. It shows there's a big shift happening. But I think this is their plan though. They don't need Americans to fight Americans. They need to take

Todd Callender: 51:16

Absolutely right.

Seth Holehouse: 51:16

The most, like, on the edge demographic, on the edge of complete violence and to and complete societal breakdown and chaos, which I'd say in many ways is inner city Chicago, if you're looking at it. I've lived in New York City. I've lived in in in various parts of New York City. I've been to some of the the bad parts of New York City. It's nothing like what you're describing.

Seth Holehouse: 51:42

You look at you look at the numbers of crimes and shootings, and you can see, okay. Yeah. You're right. It's nothing like that. So what they've done though is they've taken this particular subset of people in this country, and they've taken these people out of Venezuela.

Seth Holehouse: 51:59

They've emptied their prisons, emptied the prisons with criminals. And these aren't these aren't white collar criminals. These are these are mass murderers. These are people that that are, you know, they were hitmen for cartels that were, you know, raping and killing these kinds of people. And they're putting them into the most volatile situations.

Seth Holehouse: 52:23

I now look, when you said Chicago is a powder keg, I didn't understand it. But of course, asked you to explain. I now get it though. Because what I see what I see they're doing is they want that to go off because if they can get if they can get x neighborhood in Chicago to erupt with violence, it's just gonna spread like wildfire. And it's gonna go beyond the walls of Chicago.

Seth Holehouse: 52:50

It's gonna go into New York City, California cities. It's gonna go to every major city across America. Mhmm. Because you could you, of course, are gonna then create the two sides of it. They're gonna have the videos of what's, you know, what's happening.

Seth Holehouse: 53:04

They're gonna catch a cop doing something, and there's gonna be the resistance to the cops. And I can see it. This is so they're not reliant. They're not not trying to create a civil war of Americans between Americans. They're trying to create a war between violent criminal illegal aliens and the violent criminal subsets in America.

Seth Holehouse: 53:30

Not that the entire inner city of Chicago is criminal. It's not.

Todd Callender: 53:34

Correct.

Seth Holehouse: 53:34

But you've probably got a larger portion of criminals and people that have, you know, gone to, you know, done time for murder, done time for attempted murder, armed robbery, etcetera. You probably have a lot higher of a statistic in those regions, and they're setting it up. I mean, this is I I feel like that what you're laying out right now is the playbook. And that's the elephant, I think. That's the elephant.

Seth Holehouse: 54:00

Of course, it's it's the extra votes, you know, come the presidential election. Of course, it's the the the massive, massive growth of the welfare state, which, you know, they're following the playbook of Rome, and how, you know, how Rome collapsed. But looking at this being the powder keg, because that's what they need. They need to create some sort of massive disruption come November 2024. They need the country to be in chaos, so we can't have a normal election.

Seth Holehouse: 54:30

So we can't have someone come in that's not going to perpetuate these exact same policies that have done this to our country. And JJ, when the information you're laying out right now, man, this is I hate to say it, but this looks like this is it.

Todd Callender: 54:48

When I'm flying home, or when Ryan and I, my business partner in this in this venture, when we were leaving, we didn't stay in Southside at night, right? We did our our filming and interviews, and we'd go home to a suburb in Chicago. And there were there were every night that we drove back, we kind of were like driving in silence for a while. And then we look each other and we would say. What the hell did we just see?

Todd Callender: 55:19

What? What were what did all those people just tell us? I did this for twenty four years as a Border Patrol agent and as a task force operator, interviewing criminals, interviewing men. Deciphering who's full of crap, who's telling the truth, look in their eyes, understand where they're coming from, their propensity to violence, what they have been through already. I'm telling you, I sat with men.

Todd Callender: 55:49

That when they tell me I'm going to go to war. I'm going to do everything I have to. I believe them, Seth. There was not a moment where I was like, man, this guy's full of crap. It was like, yep.

Todd Callender: 56:04

I believe you. Let me give you an example of why I know. I went there. We went down. Try to articulate this is is it's think of Downtown Chicago.

Todd Callender: 56:20

Downtown Chicago is beautiful. Right? It's beautiful. One of the buildings called the Standard Club, it's, like, twelve, fifteen stories high, beautiful concrete on the outside. They renovated the whole damn thing to hold up to to hold up to 1,200 single adult military aged men.

Todd Callender: 56:42

I just described you the squalor US citizens are living in. They retrofitted that building to house all the illegal aliens, almost all of them Venezuelans. I walked down there with the guy that Mark Carter, street activist, highly, highly intelligent, articulate man that knows inside of out of Chicago politics. And I'm standing around, and I'm looking at two, three hundred Venezuelan men congregating. Taking over the whole city block.

Todd Callender: 57:13

I see those men wearing very nice clothes, being fed three meals a day. They have cars, Seth. Cars with no license plates. They have no license. Chicago PD tells me they can't they can't stop them.

Todd Callender: 57:29

They just let them go wild. And I'm telling you this because the guy that taken me there is a black man from the South Side. And he's tell and he gets into an argument. We walk in. We literally walk in behind two illegal alien Venezuelans Into a building that houses them, I walk in metal detectors, Seth metal detectors, and then immediately the people run and jump up, get out of here, you can't be here.

Todd Callender: 58:00

And I'm calm. And I just say, wait a minute. What is this place? It's a lobby. I'm not allowed to walk into the lobby of a building.

Todd Callender: 58:10

No, get out. They call the police. I'm looking at this black man, and I've seen this throughout my life in law enforcement. He was enraged. His eyes glazed over, and he was in this I'm going to kill mode.

Todd Callender: 58:26

I've been in that mode myself. I've been there. The rage of fighting people and and feeling caged and trapped. And I he he we got him to leave. And I looked at my partner and I said, that did you get that on film?

Todd Callender: 58:42

Because that face is the face of hundreds of thousands of black men here in Chicago. That is their rage. Oh, you could feel the rage, Seth. Feel it. And he looked at me and he said.

Todd Callender: 58:59

They get everything. Housing, clothes, cars, food, and they humiliate us. They give us nothing. We have crumbs. I can't feed my family.

Todd Callender: 59:13

I can't house them. My kids are killing each other in the streets. And they give all the money to them. No resources for my community. And that's when it struck me.

Todd Callender: 59:25

Yeah, this is the plan. This is exactly what it is. And I told I had a very look. One thing I am. Is I'm honest and I'm straight shooter.

Todd Callender: 59:38

I'm sitting in this table with these black men. Gang members started, the guy is 70 years old, the founder of the Black Disciples, violent, violent gang, multiple murders. And I tell them, I need you all to understand. You are talking in a future tense, meaning a present and future tense that you are being replaced. I said, I'm telling you, you are replaced.

Todd Callender: 01:00:09

You are already replaced. You are a group of people no one cares about Outside of Chicago, you know what we hear when we hear the weekend report of 150 people got shot. Twenty four got murdered. Nobody cares. Is that right or wrong?

Todd Callender: 01:00:28

I'm not arguing that. I'm telling you no one cares. And they said, we know. And we know that we're the only ones that are going to take care of our communities, and we're going to do that. And I told them, I said, this is very hard for you to hear, but your enemy outnumbers you.

Todd Callender: 01:00:49

And your enemy has reinforced this coming to Chicago every day to the tune of probably a thousand a day. Their army is coming. They're here. They're replenishing. And they all just were defiant.

Todd Callender: 01:01:05

I understand, but we are going to war. They kept saying it over and over again. If you think that this is okay, America, that your brothers look. The politicians and the media want to say that black men hate whites and whites hate blacks, we hate Hispanics and blah, blah, blah. I'm telling you that is a bullfaced lie.

Todd Callender: 01:01:29

I have been around these people. I've been around criminals. I've been around forbiteral agents. I've been in and we're all different races. But the thing that scares the power structure the most, Seth, is when an alpha male, black alpha male that's been in prison for twenty one years for murder is standing side by side with a white guy that's been in law enforcement for twenty four years.

Todd Callender: 01:01:53

And we are completely aligned. And we're both pointing our fingers and saying, you. Yeah, you alderman, you congressman and president, you're the enemy. We have identified you as the enemy, and we will not stop until we get our country back. That scares them to death.

Todd Callender: 01:02:12

And what I found, and I find this every time, and it's so refreshing. I interview people like you do, Seth, all walks of life. We share more in common than we have disagreements. And the disagreements we have don't end in shooting each other. It ends in discussion and maybe a disagreement.

Todd Callender: 01:02:33

The lie that the media is told and everyone said is a lie. Black Americans are Americans. White Americans are Americans. When are we going to stand side by side and demand justice for all of us? I don't know, but I know the time is coming.

Todd Callender: 01:02:52

I know it. And you say, well, is it really a war coming? Well, Alex Jones just came out and said the UN is training soldiers, illegal aliens coming into America. Alex Jones is crazy. Oh, really?

Todd Callender: 01:03:10

Was Alex Jones more crazy now saying that the U. N. Is is is training illegal alien soldiers? Or was he more crazy when he he laid out in detail? Muslim terrorists are going to take over planes and fly them into World Trade Center by a man that controls it.

Todd Callender: 01:03:32

His name is Osama bin Laden. And the Twin Towers are going to fall, and then they're going to blame it on Muslims. They're going to create a war. That man predicted it. How do you predict that, Seth?

Todd Callender: 01:03:45

So was he more crazy back then and everything came true? Or is he more crazy now? I think this is way more easy to believe than the World Trade Center is falling down and thousands of Americans dying. Everything that I'm saying to your audience can be Googled, fact checked, five ways to Sunday. It's true.

Todd Callender: 01:04:08

You don't have to like it. You can put your head in the sand and think it's all gonna be rainbows and unicorns. But I'm telling you, it's coming to your neighborhoods. It's already here. I can go on for a a whole twenty four hours and not take a breath and talk about one rape, one child molestation, one murder after another after another after another that's happened across America by the hands of illegal aliens to US citizens of all races and all ethnicities.

Todd Callender: 01:04:39

This is happening to America, and you are absolutely right. This is the plan, Seth.

Seth Holehouse: 01:04:47

It's heavy stuff. It is. It's heavy, but it's it's real. There's no turning away. I I do hope that I hope that Americans across every race and income class and everything can do exactly what you're talking about, stand side by side.

Seth Holehouse: 01:05:08

Because I agree that's the greatest threat to these people is us being Seth, I,

Todd Callender: 01:05:15

yes. I I believe that is. I believe it's gonna have to have to happen at the ground level. City council and mayors, e verify sanctuary city against sanctuary city laws. Right?

Todd Callender: 01:05:27

That type of you come to our our city, we're a sanctuary. We're going to we're going to protect you. No illegals here. No illegals going to our schools and ruin our schools. Look, I understand there's good people coming across that border looking for a better life.

Todd Callender: 01:05:41

I get that. But that's not our responsibility. If all of our inner cities were gleaming beautiful places to live and all our streets were good and we had $35,000,000,000,000 in the black instead of in the red, then that's a different discussion. We're 35,000,000,000,000 that we know about in the hole. We're bankrupt.

Todd Callender: 01:06:02

Look. You said it. It's heavy. I do not enjoy these conversations, Seth. I I always tell people, I president Trump won the election.

Todd Callender: 01:06:14

If he would have been not that was not have been stolen, we would have a a completely secure border. I would be talking to you today, Seth, about the old days and how crazy it was, and the Democrats and Republicans screwed us. But look at what Trump did. We have this under control. We had we had a secure border, and the water wall wasn't even built yet.

Todd Callender: 01:06:35

Nothing. 70% of everything that he wanted to do wasn't even in in place. And yet I'm sitting here and I'm having to talk to you in these terms. Look, I'm very aware of how I sound. I think that I that I I do a lot of introspection and think about what I'm gonna say and how I say it.

Todd Callender: 01:06:57

I understand how I sound. I I don't like it. I don't take joy in it. But I've told you this before. I got a young son.

Todd Callender: 01:07:08

My son, when he's a man and has children and is married, and I'm 80 years old and I'm gonna start to die, my son's not gonna look at me and say, dad, you were you were in the border patrol. You knew everything that was happening. Why did you stay silent, dad? Well, son, because I I didn't wanna be called vile names and and it's uncomfortable. No.

Todd Callender: 01:07:33

No. My son's gonna look at me and I maybe maybe the world changes as great, and maybe it just falls apart. But my son's gonna look at me and say, dad, I have great respect for you because people called you horrible names, but you were ahead of your time. You saw it coming when no one else wanted to. That's why I do it.

Todd Callender: 01:07:55

I'm not going to be quiet, Seth. This is not I'm not gonna go away. I know I'm gonna be canceled. I know the government probably has me on some list. I know that sounds crazy.

Todd Callender: 01:08:04

I can't say I can't believe it's coming out of my mouth. But it is. Just like they're tracking you and the people you interview because we're saying things that are uncomfortable. Your government hates you. Your own government hates the nation it represents.

Todd Callender: 01:08:21

Not my words, Seth. Their words. It's not my actions. It's their actions. Just listen.

Todd Callender: 01:08:29

Stay silent for a second and listen to them, and then look at what they've done. And then after that, come back to me and tell me I'm wrong. I'll be waiting, but I know I'm not.

Seth Holehouse: 01:08:45

Well, JJ, I think we could be keep going, which we'll have to do another one of these. I I think we need to have more more often, you know, have these check ins with each other, especially with what you're doing. The documentary you're working on, I wanna bring up the the Give, Send, Go one more time. This is, you know, folks that wanna get involved, they wanna help. This is an information war.

Seth Holehouse: 01:09:08

The more we can get this kind of information out, this conversation, the more people that can hear this conversation, this is how we change things, the more people that can see this documentary. That's how we change things. We have to get more people to see who the real enemy is. It's not who you're telling us on CNN. It's not who telling us on Fox News.

Seth Holehouse: 01:09:27

It's much bigger than that. So give singo.com/savingAmerica to support the documentary. JJ, when is this documentary coming out? And how can we we follow what's going on with it?

Todd Callender: 01:09:40

So we will have the website. This this is treason.com will come out by the end of the week. It should be up by tomorrow, but just barring some some technical issues. Great website. Very clean.

Todd Callender: 01:09:53

And what we're going to do is as we go to each city and state, we are going to put up edited raw footage so you understand and you go along in this journey with us. And then we will have this completely wrapped up and ready to We're going to do presales, $9.99. It's not $20 or $39.99. Get you the documentary. It will come out in September.

Todd Callender: 01:10:21

It will be all done in September. And my partner has a great idea. Because ninety minutes of a documentary, you get to the point where you're like, I really would love to hear, but Seth Holehouse has to say, I only got two minutes of them. I wanna hear it. Well, for an extra charge of, like, $5, you have access to hundreds of hours of our interviews and video.

Todd Callender: 01:10:45

So things that you wanna Tyrone Mohammed, he's an ex con that was in prison for twenty one years for murder, is now a leading activist in the community. You want to hear what he has to say. The whole documentary should be him ninety minutes just talking. But you'll have a way to go listen to the words that he says. I'm very excited about this.

Todd Callender: 01:11:06

I'm very apprehensive at the same time because I know that I know what's going on, but I know there is a lot that I'm not aware of yet, and I'm going to see it. I haven't even gone and interviewed the child sex trafficking experts. I haven't gone and interviewed the major narcotic cartel experts. I think that's going to shock me, even me. So please, if you go to give saying go backslash saving America, even $5, it adds up.

Todd Callender: 01:11:39

I have two new trips. I gotta go to Colorado, and I gotta fly to Florida and interview some very, very important people that want to be in the documentary. So, Seth, as always, you your time you give me to be able to articulate this fully. I totally appreciate that because it is so complex. It is so layered that it has to have time to be able to explain what the hell is going on.

Todd Callender: 01:12:08

But it's frightening, and it's uneasy, and people don't like to talk about evil because it's evil. And people don't like to talk about people that hate their country because we love our country. So thank you for the time. I will I'll forever be appreciative for it.

Seth Holehouse: 01:12:25

Absolutely. I mean, thank you for for coming. And before we sign off, Allison, just wanna bring up your Twitter page at j j carrol fourteen. I'll put these links in the description below. And also your Rumble page.

Seth Holehouse: 01:12:39

So you've got a phenomenal show with Brian O'Shea, ex special forces. Super, super guy on intelligence, military intelligence, unrestricted invasion. It's on Rumble. Also, fantastic show. Part of the Daily Clout Network.

Seth Holehouse: 01:12:56

So again, JJ Carroll, thank you very much for coming on. I hope that more people are watching and following you and what you're doing. You're doing very important work. And it's I'm glad that you come on. And you know, your shows always do really well when you come on here, because the message that you're carrying is punches you in the gut, which is what we need.

Seth Holehouse: 01:13:20

It's what Americans need. We need to be kind of punched in the gut every once in a while and say, hey, life isn't, you know, all hunky dory kumbaya as you want it to be. There's a real threat. We can get back to that, but we got to address the real threat. And I and I appreciate you for leaning into that and helping us understand what that threat is.

Todd Callender: 01:13:39

Thank you very much. Look forward to speaking to you soon.

Seth Holehouse: 01:13:42

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