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TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to Spotify immediately after airing.
Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has interviewed Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Diet TBPN delivers the best moments from each episode in under 30 minutes.
The US government has banned Chinese humanoid robots. The US is banning new imports of foreign made humanoid robots, quadruped robots, robot dogs. You might know them by. Very controversial based on we gotta get general catalyst to weigh in on this because aren't they anti robot dog? Wasn't that the whole thing of the video?
Speaker 1:Right. So they must be celebrating.
Speaker 2:Platform VCs pro Yes.
Speaker 1:Robot dogs? Everyone should be pro robot dogs. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with a robot dog. Unless it's a geopolitical discussion, and then there's another layer to the debate. So the Federal Communication Commission's FCC today announced some restrictions, and these apply to new versions of those products.
Speaker 1:FCC chair, Brendan Carr, said the move is intended to, quote, secure America's critical supply chains. China, meanwhile, has condemned the decision as protectionism. Is that because they're protecting the like the small children from getting smacked in the face by the humanoid robots? It is protectionism.
Speaker 2:I know. I know. That video, I think that you're referring to Yeah. Brutal. Absolutely brutal.
Speaker 2:We should try to pull it up. We should. Try to find the humanoid kicking a child, please. Sounds wrong, but I just wanna get at the truth.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I want the truth. Move comes
Speaker 1:as Chinese companies have established a commanding lead in humanoid robot robotics Of the roughly 15,000 humanoid robots shipped worldwide in 2025, China's Unitree and Agibot, AGI bot. I'm not sure how you pronounce that. Each delivered Okay.
Speaker 2:We have the video of the robot kicking the child.
Speaker 1:Brutal. There's another one where he's spinning around and gives him sort of like a spinning back fist. But that is crazy. And That is seeing that, you're kinda like, yeah, I'm up for some protection.
Speaker 2:Gross. Negligence.
Speaker 1:If it's going to if it's gonna protect children, I think it's maybe in the best interest. No. That's not why this is happening, of course. Deeply wrong. So 5,000 units were delivered from from each unitary and Agibot.
Speaker 1:By comparison, U. Companies, including Tesla and Figure, shipped only a few 100 robots each, if that. China is also estimated to control about 85% of the global humanoid robotics market and also a ton of the deep supply chain, obviously. According to the Associated Press, the restrictions are expected to add new tension to US China relations ahead of a planned September meeting between Chinese President Xi Jinping and US President Donald Trump. The FCC argues the measures are necessary to reduce potential risks posed by connected foreign made devices that could become part of critical American infrastructure.
Speaker 1:What's interesting here is that we're seeing a ban on a Chinese technology that is so nascent that you don't have a coalition of companies that are saying, woah, woah, woah. I've deployed my business is built on top of unitary. I know there's geopolitical considerations, but I can't make the cars that I make without them. I can't run my business without them. And so this is going to hurt me.
Speaker 1:No one's really stepping up in the same way that they are with Chinese LLMs, which a lot of companies are like, no. I'm actually gonna cut my inference cost by 80% if I can And you
Speaker 2:have all of the the various cloud businesses that are
Speaker 1:already making money Making money from them. These models. Exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I'm I'm Very different. I saw a bunch of people that were sort of saying that they didn't like this, that it was, you know, protectionist Yeah. And and that there must have been some American humanoid or robotics companies that were pushing lobbying for this in DC. Maybe there were Mhmm.
Speaker 2:But I personally don't want a 100,000,000 humanoid robots in this country running around that are not made by a US company.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Or at least a Western ally.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Where since there's been the DJI ban, there's been various surveillance tools that are banned, but there's still so many different pieces of technology from come that come from all over the world. I wonder where people would like to draw the line generally on technology. Like, is it okay if the WiFi router is made Internet?
Speaker 2:Or we drew the line on Huawei.
Speaker 1:Yeah. On Huawei on the 5 G Tower specifically. But most you can still get a router that, you know, a WiFi router for your house that comes from China. And you have to imagine that many of the actuators, the motors, the batteries, CAT, CATL, cattle, that company ships batteries for all sorts of stuff. The the the Google Waymo approach, I think, is probably the correct, like, finding the line.
Speaker 1:Waymo is sourcing, like, almost all the parts for the new Waymos from China, but they are building them, I believe, in The United States, and all of the software is from Google or Alphabet or Waymo. And so you have to imagine that they're able to tear all these pieces down and sort of maintain their own cybersecurity posture, which is really what this is all about. But it is interesting. Do you think this actually accelerates the American humanoid market?
Speaker 2:I mean, these companies have already raised a lot of money. Yeah. Elon's putting billions into it. Yeah. Figures managed to raise
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Billions. I think that the first thing that we need is profitable use cases for humanoids. Yeah. And so I think there's a lot of work that the industry needs to do to make these to make these products, like, genuinely valuable Yeah. In the home Yep.
Speaker 2:In workplaces, in factory settings, all these things. I think that's a bigger problem. I think if you it does feel inevitable Mhmm. At this point just because there's so much money going into it, so many smart people dedicating all their time to it. It feels inevitable.
Speaker 2:Maybe it speeds it up a little bit. It just felt like we were going to end up in a situation where they would just continue to dump humanoids onto our you know, you could buy you probably still can buy a robot Can on Walmart.
Speaker 1:I was asking Tyler about this because you used to be able to buy a unitary g one, I believe, one of their robots on Walmart, which was sort of crazy. And the price was accessible. I mean, was still tens of thousands of dollars, but it was something that a research lab could buy pretty easily. I wonder if there will be other ways for companies to get access to these products at least for benchmarking. Because they will be competing internationally.
Speaker 1:Like even in a world where Tesla gets to the frontier of humanoid robots with optimists and then they're going up against a unit tree
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:For a deployment in Germany like BYD. Right? BYD and Tesla compete internationally even though Tesla's Tesla's can still be sold in China, but not vice versa. But internationally, there needs to be a lot of like, what are the capabilities so you can actually sell against your competitor
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Even if you're
Speaker 2:So far, UniTree I'm seeing on Walmart is out of stock. Oh. So I don't know if they just marked it out of stock when this went live or they had just sold out.
Speaker 1:Spike if they hit cars and bids or bring a trailer. I think you throw a UniTree g one last edition, final edition, band. Can't be
Speaker 2:bots and bids.
Speaker 1:Bots and bids. That might be it. I was listening to to Elon Musk on The Economist. He sat down with The Economist for a long form interview. There were there was a clip that went sort of viral for some some sharp jabs back and forth about the media and and how the public perceives the media.
Speaker 1:But the much more interesting substance was about his vision.
Speaker 2:You're describing the crash out?
Speaker 1:Yes. It was it was described as a crash out. But that seemed like a very small section of what was actually interesting about the more than an hour they talked. One was I mean, he talks about humanoid robots and he paints a very clear vision for the Optimist program. And it made me really hope that there's a lot of focus there because that feels like an industry where, like, he obviously has a very strong philosophy around x AI and Grok, and you saw it in the SpaceX x, s one where the market for enterprise software was like 22,000,000,000,000 or something like And so there is some value there.
Speaker 1:It might make sense from a business perspective. But it was less inspiring than rockets, less inspiring than self driving electric cars. Because you as you go back, you think about SpaceX and you think, if he hadn't worked on that, probably wouldn't have a rocket company in America. And same thing with the electric cars. Like, yeah, GM had the EV one.
Speaker 1:There were a couple other companies that were sort of like testing things, but we'd probably be 10 behind if he hadn't sort of like sheer force of willed that into existence. And it feels the same for humanoid robots where if he can really go and push that extremely hard and marshal all the capital and do all the difficult things to build the supply chain, make it happen, make it work, you can get to a place where there is a national champion in America. But if if Grock stopped training and there were no more x AI LLMs, like, there would still be a massive competition between OpenAI, Anthropic, Meta, Google. Like, there's plenty of really well funded hyperscalers and leading labs that are going to provide that service of like ask a question and get an answer or fire off a prompt and get some code back. That that the the American humanoid robotics industry feels much more fragile in the sense that if you don't have this massive hammer of capital and will coming to bear, you could just wind up with it never happening, which I worry about.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And America needs to figure out how to make billions of robots. Mhmm. Itself.
Speaker 1:I do wonder how this is going to play into all the other discussions that are gonna happen at that US visit by Chinese leader Xi Jinping. He's scheduled to meet with US president Donald Trump in September. I'm I'm interested to see, are they going to Can be treating
Speaker 2:you see if we can possibly get him on the show? What if Xi was just like, yeah, I'm meeting with the president, but I'm also going on a 50 podcast tour
Speaker 1:That'd while
Speaker 2:he's here.
Speaker 1:Get him on. Yeah. There there's a bunch of good shows he could he could do. He should do
Speaker 2:Modern wisdom. I wanna understand would
Speaker 1:be great. I'd love him to I'd love to see him on Hot Ones.
Speaker 2:Joe Rogan. Rogan? Of course.
Speaker 1:Mean He's a no brainer.
Speaker 2:That should be kind of the the the last show.
Speaker 1:But Nelk would be like the obvious choice. Yeah.
Speaker 2:A lot of world leaders. Well, have a history of
Speaker 1:World leaders have been on there. That's true.
Speaker 2:Controversial world leaders.
Speaker 1:That's true. Why not Cesar Pink? Dean Ball's going back and forth with Will Menidas. Dean says, do we think the Silicon Valley leaders who were so up in arms about using Chinese LLMs last week will be similarly outraged about the US government's decision to ban import of all advanced robotics from all foreign countries. Is Menidas going to write an essay about how The US robot companies need to be nationalized in exchange for this policy favor?
Speaker 1:Will says you're welcome to tag me if you want a take. What's your take? He does ask him for it. And Will says Dean seems to not understand that the FCC is issuing the published rule under statutory authority with a waiver process and judicial review is different than a thinly veiled suggestion that regulators carry out an extra legal whisper campaign to protect the interests of his employer. The robotics companies need not be nationalized until they also ask for public infrastructure preemption, federal backstop of their debt, and a swift swept market just so they can call themselves national institutions.
Speaker 1:When they do, send them my essay. And Dean Ball says, so wait. If The US straight up banned Chinese LMs using explicit statutory authorities, e. G, supply chain risk, that wouldn't necessitate lab nationalization. But doing it through soft law would what?
Speaker 1:Your instance that my analytic prediction was a thinly veiled suggestion continues to be bad faith. I do wonder if we'll just see more know, Figure shows up in those secondary demand tables. I wonder if this is bullish for that. I don't know. I I I One X just seems to be on a good path.
Speaker 1:Sunday Robotics just seems to be on a good path. We've talked to a lot of other companies where the the regulatory and competitive landscape has always it hasn't seemed like it's a driver of financings. Right? It's not like Yeah. Oh, you're waiting for approval or you're waiting for some some rule to break.
Speaker 1:It's like, yeah. At some point in the future Yep. America's gonna want indigenous like, you know, robotic supply chain. It'll probably be
Speaker 2:a raised anywhere from a $100,000,000 Yep. To billions of dollars. And now they need to effectively deploy that and get commercial use cases
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Starting to ramp. And then I expect them to be able to raise an order of magnitude more capital each. Right? So I don't again, I I don't think capital is really a constraint here. But I think they've raised their sort of like they've raised their like vibe rounds, let's say.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Mark Zuckerberg is in The Wall Street Journal. Paywalled, you gotta pay to read what Mark has to say. But he penned an op ed, and he says The US should accelerate AI development, not restrict it.
Speaker 1:He says the AI future is for everyone. There's some interesting quotes in here. He's taken shots. He's taken shots at doom, fear based marketing. He says, It is surprising that the discourse from many of those who are developing artificial intelligence is so filled with doom.
Speaker 1:I don't understand why anyone who believes that AI will eliminate most jobs and much of humanity's relevance would rush to build that future. The only the notion that AI is so dangerous that the only safe path is an extreme concentration of power seems dangerous. Historically, hoping that an absolute power will benevolently provide for humanity if sufficiently enlightened
Speaker 2:So, you're talking about machines of love and grace?
Speaker 1:I think so. Something like that. Hasn't led to safer positive outcomes. Humanity has witnessed many transformative advances. Each time there is fear that people will be left behind, but each time humanity has come out with more people sharing greater prosperity, health and freedom.
Speaker 1:We believe this will be true with AI as well and the abundance of the future can be shared by everyone. He's abundance build. And so I think it's good to sort of reset where he is. He's been he's been he's talked about AI a bunch, but it's never been like right on the cusp. But he's just like throwing his hat firmly in this camp of, you know, he's he's obviously playing in AI, but has a particularly positive vision.
Speaker 1:And he's sort of throwing down the gauntlet. If you think if you think AI is so bad, then stop working and let me let me work on it.
Speaker 2:Let me cook.
Speaker 3:I don't
Speaker 1:know. But not too much chatter around this. It did stand in opposition. He's saying The United States should accelerate AI development. At the same time, there's this open letter from a bunch of lab employees saying like, hey, maybe we should do a mutual pause.
Speaker 1:Maybe we should all slow down. And I think even some meta researchers signed that as well, but there's like a wide group from OpenAI, Anthropic, a bunch of other firms, Google, that all signed. John Palmer, of course, ever the TBPN promoter says, TBPN must publish an open letter against distillation after their model was distilled by every competitor in the industry. And I said, I'm advocating for a complete and total podcast ban, multi federal year multi year federal approval process for new RSS feeds to get issued. He says, better hurry up and write that open letter before Chinese technology network launches.
Speaker 1:I think a Chinese TBPN would actually be electric.
Speaker 3:I think it'd be amazing.
Speaker 1:I'd
Speaker 2:love to watch.
Speaker 1:I would love that. You know, just wildly different. They just don't do the going direct thing over there the same way. You know, there was like the deep seek investor meeting four hours that was like leaked. That's not the same as actually sitting down with someone that has a particular point of view.
Speaker 2:Sitting down with a stack of 200 posts Yeah. And just chitchatting for you.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Maybe it does exist. But when Duarkesh went to China, it was such a funny observation. He had a bunch of observations. But the one that really stuck out to me was he was like, I asked everyone and I and it is clear, China does not have a Joe Rogan.
Speaker 1:They don't have Crazy. Someone who is like a larger than life yapper political commentator, just like a guy who talks about everything including politics. And there's political reasons for that, but it's also maybe cultural and it's just interesting because the demand for that would be electric. I feel like you have to have to imagine that like Joe Rogan clips make them make their way around the world and are sort of like a barometer for where the American psyche is at in a certain in a certain way, like a certain group of Americans feel that way. There's this other post that's sort of interesting to see where the Anthropic back and forth on the open letter goes.
Speaker 1:Obviously, Anthropic clarified their stance on open source, not advocating for a complete and total ban, but they're very worried about distillation, they're very worried about cybersecurity, and they're very worried about authoritarian uses of AI. All good points. Chetan over at Benchmark says, Anthropic very publicly claiming there needs to be a crackdown on distillation is puzzling. It's a $1,000,000,000,000 company with incredible resources and the distillation attacks at the scale they describe would seem easy to detect. I don't know how easy they are to detect.
Speaker 1:I think the people, you know, harness up a whole bunch of different VPNs and stuff. But at the same time, it's like, it's an AI company. Put AI on the job. Maybe you should be able to detect it. So Yeah.
Speaker 1:We'll take his point. He's at AI
Speaker 2:to be able to find a needle in the biggest haystack of all time.
Speaker 1:Yeah. The
Speaker 2:Yeah. World's largest haystack.
Speaker 1:The final benchmark. But he says the only cost would be giving up the associated API revenue. So you should have a very aggressive a very aggressive internal policy around if you're suspected of a distillation attack, you're kicked off the API. Of course, in a very short amount of time, you can fire off a lot of prompts and get a lot of tokens. And you can do that a lot around across across a lot of different accounts.
Speaker 1:What what do you think about this?
Speaker 3:Yeah. I mean, detecting distillation seems like a very hard problem. I think if it was trivial, they would have just done it. Yeah. And also seems like it's not that big of a, like, percentage of the revenue.
Speaker 3:Revenue. Like, I'd be surprised if if, like, distillation attacks
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Accounted for a large amount of of, like Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't I don't think it I don't think it's Also,
Speaker 1:so it does it does feel like it's hard because a lot of it doesn't actually go through the direct API necessarily. Like, it goes through a company that is vending a service and then someone is prompting that service and so you're further obfuscating it. Like there are a number of different sort of wrappers that effectively wrap various frontier APIs. And if you're getting hit in a bunch of different you're blending all of that together, you're looking at open source stuff. There's also just people that will like, this just happened with, was it Matt Schumer?
Speaker 1:He basically uploaded to GitHub a game that he made with Opus five along with the prompt. And so you can sort of distill on that like it's only one data point or, you know, a small bag of tokens. But there's a lot of people that will share a prompt and the actual output. And so you can train on that and there's no way to detect that you found that. What's interesting here is that the knock on effect of Chetan's point is that if Anthropic takes Chetan's advice, you wind up giving out the model less frequently and being more closed about it, which was something three months ago everyone in the ecosystem was like, This is annoying.
Speaker 1:Like, I'm a small startup. I can't get into the Mythos tier. I can't get access to Project Glasswing. I'm not an enterprise level, you know, customer, but I still so I just don't get frontier intelligence, and I just get steamrolled by, you know, Microsoft who has access to it or Apple who has access to it or whatever. And so this the whole idea of like if if if a if a amazing intelligence, an amazing model is made, should it be widely available, that's actually at odds with distillation because you have to hunt those bad actors down and you play this whack a mole.
Speaker 1:So I don't know. It is it is tricky. We'll see we'll see where it goes. We'll see where it goes. Anyway.
Speaker 2:Apparently, over on Facebook marketplace, people are adding a a sort of gold aura to their listing.
Speaker 1:What is this?
Speaker 2:Would this make you more likely to buy John? Oh. It does
Speaker 1:look like a rare drop.
Speaker 2:Yes. For only $25, picking up this table with that level of aura, certainly tempting.
Speaker 1:I it it does make me like it more. I think it actually works. I've seen people do this where they add they'll add like a woman to it as like the salesperson basically with AI and that draws more attention on Facebook Marketplace. I don't know if I've ever bought anything on Facebook Marketplace. But maybe maybe we should try and have Tyler do like a trade a trade a paper clip into a car challenge.
Speaker 1:Have you ever seen these?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:With Ryan Trahan and would
Speaker 2:be exceptional, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1:You think you could you think you could trade up from something on your desk?
Speaker 3:I think this would definitely help it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Giving it some
Speaker 3:kind of
Speaker 1:basically, have to look for the most unoptimized listings that are undervalued and then and then once you buy them, give them the ultimate glow up on on on with AI images. Put them back up for a higher price. Increase your margins. Start printing. This is a very Gary V s hustle for sure.
Speaker 2:Pretty incredible story. EBay pays couple $56,000,000 for its role in cockroach harassment campaign.
Speaker 1:That is a crazy headline.
Speaker 2:A couple received threatening deliveries, including funeral wreaths after criticizing the e commerce retailer in a blog. So this couple, David and Ina Steiner, were harassed, it sounds like for years for criticizing eBay. Who knew that criticizing eBay could get you in this much trouble? Yeah. Of course, it's eBay that ended up getting in trouble.
Speaker 2:But
Speaker 1:So they had an online e commerce blog called Ecommerce Bites, and they criticized eBay on that. And then back in 2019 so this has been going on for like seven years. There's a whole new executive team in in in place now, but there were actually criminal charges in 2020. Seven employees of the company were sentenced to prison terms ranging between one and five years.
Speaker 2:And so what were they doing? EBay leadership apparently mailed a series of threatening deliveries to the Steiners' home in 2019.
Speaker 1:That's crazy.
Speaker 2:Including a box of live cockroaches, a bloody pig's head mask. I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 1:Head mask?
Speaker 2:Is this a real pig head that's been turned into a mask or is it hopefully just a sort of a Hollywood remake of that? In a funeral wreath, the Steiners also accused executives of online harassment including online posts inviting strangers to their house for sex. Also Absolutely insane. Who like, in what in what world is is a company is a public company like eBay just getting some criticism, which all companies do.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Is takes it this personally Like you're gonna try to ruin the lives of
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Two people that are already in your in your industry.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Was the impact of ecommerce bites blogs showing up in your quarterly reports? So, like, was it actually
Speaker 2:pleaded guilty in 2023 harassment and paid a $3,000,000 penalty. Following criminal charges in 2020, seven employees of the companies were sentenced to prison terms ranging from one to five years.
Speaker 1:It's absolutely brutal.
Speaker 2:According to court documents, eBay executives grew increasingly upset by the Steiner's critical coverage of the company in early twenty nineteen, leading then executive Devin Wenning to test to text another executive that it was time to crush the Steiner's and take her down.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:Referring to That summer harassment against the Steiners escalated from threatening messages to delivering items to their home, which also included a book about surviving spousal bereave
Speaker 1:So that's like sort of a death threat, I guess? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right? What's Also sending adult magazines to neighbor's homes in the husband's name. So just like completely trying to destroy this couple's life and and marriage. EBay employees also traveled to Massachusetts to vandalize the Steiners' home and stalk them around their hometown. All the employees involved in the harassment were fired in September 2019, eBay said.
Speaker 2:The lawsuit was actually started in 2021. Under the settlement so we have a we have a a good ending here. I think it's a fair ending. Under the settlement, the couple will receive 48,000,000 Okay. In compensation from eBay and former employees.
Speaker 2:EBay will also pay 6,000,000 to charitable organizations.
Speaker 1:That's good.
Speaker 2:And Wenig will pay 1,000,000 to a free speech charity in Einat Steiner's name.
Speaker 1:This is the ultimate Streisand effect. I never would have heard about e commerce bites or their criticism of eBay if they hadn't done all this. What a mess.
Speaker 2:Ecommerce bites.
Speaker 1:I'm I'm looking up exactly what they said because eBay is, in my opinion, just the most set it and forget it company that's just had the same service for twenty years, basically. Well But now we're gonna get to the bottom of it. Big news out of the Fed. The Fed holds rate steady, but three officials voted for a rate increase. The rate has been unchanged in in this July meeting.
Speaker 1:The split shows pressure building inside the central bank to act on inflation two months after chairman Kevin Walsh took over, and the Dow skids 1,100 points as investors worry about Fed next steps. They're thinking that there might be a rate hike in the in reaction to inflation, of course, somewhat driven by energy prices, oil prices. Oil is spiking again. And so lots of tricky news for the global economy, but fortunately, the economy chugs on and the economy is strong. So
Speaker 2:I believe in it.
Speaker 1:I believe in it too. Never never black pill.
Speaker 2:I have faith.
Speaker 1:Durkesh Patel's certainly not black pilling. Gavin Baker quote tweeted Durkesh's post that predicted lab revenues and the trillions very shortly. Gavin Baker says, I see a series of fairly wild thoughts from Dwarkash. I thought I was bullish, but even I am not assuming that the price to rent compute continues to go up. I will say that I am in Silicon Valley this week and Dwarkash is capturing the zeitgeist.
Speaker 1:Net net, public markets would probably be trading differently if they saw the OpenAI, Anthropic, Grok cursor and open source numbers over the last six weeks because everything is growing. Even in you there's so much horse race around, oh, open source is gonna come and grow. It's like, well, sometimes open source comes and grows, and everything else grows too. And that's what we've seen throughout the whole deep sea saga when the lab revenues grew a ton even though open source was big.
Speaker 2:Yeah. There's a comment here that I think is on the nose. Please. Jay Capital says, timeline is very interesting. All private AI companies have their best six weeks while retail AI slash semis have their worst six weeks.
Speaker 1:Very, very interesting.
Speaker 2:So disconnect there.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I mean, one of them, SK Hynix, $64,000,000,000 in quarterly profit. It was a disappointment for chip investors and SK Hynix fell 10% despite record results powered by the AI boom. The the the profit increase was incredible. I think they the they they grew profit over 500 percent, something like that.
Speaker 1:And still, the stock traded down because expectations are so high, everything's priced to perfection. In other news, HBO Max is launching HBO Max Shorts for those who don't have the attention span to watch an episode of TV. It's a mobile feature designed for users to watch iconic and memorial scenes from the HBO library in a vertical and scrollable feed. This is already happening on Instagram and TikTok. You see a lot of movie clips, just great moments.
Speaker 1:And it actually is great content, so I can understand why they're trying to own a piece of that.
Speaker 2:You gotta get the Jeffrey Katzenberg apology form
Speaker 1:For sure. Yeah. For sure. But yeah, High Yield Harry captures it pretty well watching society become too cooked even to watch TV episode. And this is from Idiocracy, Mike Judge's one of his best works, the creator of HBO's Silicon Valley actually, who will now be available in short form because you will be able to watch short clips from from HBO Silicon Valley on HBO Max shorts and sign up for our newsletter at tbpn.com.
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