Beer, Booze & B.S. Podcast

We’re back at Max’s Bar in Ham Lake, MN for Part 2 of our arm wrestling takeover—and the bar stories get WILD. 💪🍻

First up, we wrap with Katie the #1 ranked female arm wrestler in Oregon, talking unhinged snack combos (clean “fake Oreos” and jelly beans), brutal hangover “cures,” DUIs, blowing into an ignition interlock, quitting weed in Oregon, and what it’s like raising four boys while her husband Paul is a top arm wrestler out west.

Then we meet Rob, a Hulk Hogan lookalike who’s retiring after 42 years running a landscaping, tree, and snow-removal business. He tells insane stories about:

Getting pulled on stage by Kid Rock at the Buffalo Chip in Sturgis and partying on the tour RV

Being mistaken for Hulk Hogan at a live Price Is Right show and getting mobbed for photos

Running a hobby farm with horses, goats, sheep, and super-smart pigs

Retirement plans that include Mille Lacs Lake, boating, and dropping $9–10K on a Caribbean cruise (Belize, Cozumel & more)

Why saving 25% of every paycheck let him sell his company and walk away

Tesla stock, Elon Musk, and the future of self-driving trucks and “drones you can sit in”

Finally, we sit down with Matt Swanson, a local Minnesota arm wrestler who went from bar-top challenges for drinks and money to winning his first tournament here at Max’s. He breaks down:

The difference between bar arm wrestling vs. real tournament rules

How brackets and burnout can make or break your day on the table

Training with an arm-wrestling table and pulley setup at home

Bowling league life with a 198 average, summer sand volleyball, and buying/selling cars out of his yard

Kickboxing and strength training at Farrell’s to stay ready for the next state tournament

Why “loud bark, no bite” keeps bar fights in the parking lot from actually happening

All this, plus more Would You Rather chaos, retirement talk, cruise-ship life, farm stories, and reviews of our custom cocktail of the day: The Flash Pin Fizz (vodka, lemonade, triple sec, and a splash of club soda). 🍋🥂

If you love:
Arm wrestling • Kid Rock & Sturgis stories • Hulk Hogan nostalgia • small-town bar culture • retirement & farm life • real recovery talk • cocktails & chaos
…this episode is absolutely your vibe.

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Chrissy:

What is your un what's your unhinged but perfect snack comp? So your favorite snack snacky pizza. It's not healthy.

Katie:

Oh, that's not healthy.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Was just gonna say

Paul:

the hot cocoa protein

Speaker 4:

doesn't come.

Chrissy:

Unhinged, meaning not healthy. Okay.

Katie:

So they have do they have Trader Joe's here? That short Trader Joe's?

Chrissy:

Yep.

Katie:

So they sell these, like, Jojo's. They're, like, fake Oreos. Oh. Oh, I would eat those. Would want a meal.

Katie:

Oreos? They're like they look like Oreos. They're like

Chrissy:

Oh, so Jojo's here are like a wedged potato.

Katie:

No. But it but it but at Trader Joe's, they call them Jojo's. Okay. But they're like an Oreo, but they don't have any of the bad so I'm trying to eat really clean usually too.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Yeah.

Katie:

So they don't have, like, high fructose corn syrup, and they don't have, you know, any fake dyes or

Rob:

or stuff

Paul:

like that. Fucking everything has it nowadays.

Chrissy:

But Peter Joe's is known for their clean

Katie:

Is this Cleaner options. Not everything, but most of it. Yeah. So I like to eat those. Is it?

Katie:

It

Paul:

Oreo or what?

Katie:

It's just like a regular Oreo. It doesn't have as much filling as like a double stuffed or anything. How many? They're not as they're not as good as an Oreo. Right?

Katie:

I'll tell you that. They're not as tasty because the Oreo's got the thick flavors. They're delicious. Yeah. Oh, I'll tell you what it is.

Katie:

Tastes like fucking frack. It's So they're like jelly bellies, but I order them on Amazon because they don't have the fake colors on them and the bad stuff.

Chrissy:

Where are at?

Katie:

Jelly beans. They're so in Okay. My I love jelly beans. Oh. I love sweet stuff.

Katie:

I Should we? I can just feel them in my pee. Sugar all day.

Chrissy:

I could I would

Katie:

I would get sick, but I could

Paul:

eat sweet stuff. Fucking prawn once because of

Katie:

Jelly beans? I love jelly beans. I shouldn't eat them,

Paul:

but I I love them so much.

Chrissy:

So they're that's

Katie:

Jelly beans.

Chrissy:

So considering you used to drink, I will ask you this.

Rob:

Okay.

Chrissy:

Rank Lee's hangover cures. Is it greasy food, electrolytes, hair of the dog back on the train, or some maple soup from grandma.

Katie:

Okay. Or maybe you have

Rob:

your own.

Katie:

So I'll preface it by saying I never got hangovers because I drank so

Chrissy:

much. Okay. I would wake for the dog.

Katie:

Hair of the dog. I was just I mean, I would have to wake up at 3AM to drink because I was shaking. Oh. It was bad. I would go to work, I'd to go home on lunch to have two huge drinks like this.

Katie:

Mostly vodka. Yeah. And then I drive back. Yeah. I got a DUI in 2018.

Katie:

So Only one? Yeah. I only that was the only time I've ever been arrested or for anything.

Chrissy:

For anything.

Katie:

And after that, I still didn't stop actually after that. I just didn't have a car anymore. And then when I got a car, I had to have a blow and go on my car for a full year, and I got five years probation. In Washington, it's they it's really and I spent forty eight hours in jail.

Chrissy:

How many hours?

Katie:

Forty eight.

Chrissy:

Forty eight.

Katie:

So two days.

Chrissy:

Two days.

Katie:

But it was still I don't ever wanna go back there.

Chrissy:

So was it the forty eight hours of the arrest day, or did you have to go back?

Katie:

No. The arrest day, they just released me to my Oh,

Chrissy:

they did?

Katie:

My friend's house who offered me a drink when I got there.

Paul:

Oh. Oh,

Chrissy:

god. So yeah. Great friends.

Katie:

Yeah. Not my friend anymore. But I would say HairOfTheDog, I guess.

Chrissy:

If a bartender were and you're drinking a nay, as if a bartender were to name a drink after your personality, what's in it and how strong is it?

Katie:

Well, obviously Well, back then when I back then when I clear. Back then when I was drinking, yeah, it'd be like the fun time gal, and it's almost all vodka with a splash of cranberry to

Chrissy:

make it pink. Good answer. Good answer.

Katie:

Because I was friends with everybody. Everybody's best friend.

Chrissy:

So were you a happy drunk?

Katie:

Yeah. I was happy until I just passed out. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Good. Okay. What food do you absolutely love that absolutely does not love you back if there is honey? Okay.

Katie:

So this is a sad one for me. So even though I said the thing about the Oreo type cookies, I can't eat chocolate anymore. And I'm a chocolate addict. I was Well, you love sugar. So I would eat chocolate all the time, and, like, suddenly, I think I have a soy allergy.

Katie:

Because whenever I eat anything with soy in it, especially chocolate, almost always have soy lecithin, I can't eat it. And I just itch and itch and itch and itch. Weird. And I'm so sad about it because chocolate is my favorite. Maybe you meant savory food.

Chrissy:

I think Mike would probably die if he couldn't have chocolate.

Katie:

Think one has such amazing, like, specialty chocolates, I would spend, like, $4 a bar and buy, like, a bunch of them. And I would have them in my purse, and they were so good. And then all of a sudden, my body was like,

Chrissy:

nah. No more.

Rob:

Yeah. More for you.

Katie:

And the reason I quit the weed too is because it was getting my tolerance was getting so high that I was literally eating three one hundred gram edibles at a time.

Chrissy:

But your steak where

Speaker 4:

your food

Chrissy:

looks like everywhere.

Katie:

Oh, there's one six hundred feet from my front door.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Was gonna say Oregon or Oregon.

Katie:

And it's cheap. Joints a buck or 2. A buck for three free free roast or $2. They have happy hour every day twice a day.

Paul:

You should see the prices here compared to, like, out there. Yeah. That that bar here is probably 30 fucking dollars.

Katie:

Yeah. You could you could get a whole pack of, like, the good the the better ones for under $20.

Chrissy:

Well, no offense, but the laws and regulations in Oregon are, like, kind of loony.

Katie:

Yeah. Anything goes

Paul:

there. It's

Katie:

like pretty much anything goes. Anything goes.

Paul:

Don't give a fuck about

Chrissy:

nothing else.

Katie:

Try not to kill anybody and you're fine. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Or if you do kill someone just don't say anything. I feel like in Minneapolis isn't far behind, to be honest.

Katie:

Yeah. Portland is a is I wouldn't call it necessarily a war zone like the president said, because I don't live in downtown. Right. That's where all the ICE stuff is and

Paul:

Yeah.

Katie:

And all that.

Chrissy:

I mean, it's on the news a lot.

Katie:

But it's on the news a lot. And the crime for Portland is being a supposedly really safe city. Their crime is definitely on the rise.

Chrissy:

So is Minneapolis.

Katie:

So Yeah.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Last question. Well, maybe a second to last question. If you could remove one condiment from Earth, which one is banned? So what do you absolutely, like, feed?

Chrissy:

If there's any.

Katie:

Which one do I hate? Oh, man.

Rob:

Like, that's kind of a tough one. Relish.

Katie:

Oh, yeah. Relish. No. I don't really everyone's

Chrissy:

gonna hate me

Katie:

on your I don't really like Tabasco. Oh. It messes up the food. Like, The whole thing is Tabasco. The whole food then tastes like Tabasco.

Katie:

I'm, like, supposed to be complimenting it, not overtaking You

Chrissy:

should see my Bloody Marys. It's like half a bottle of Tabasco.

Paul:

Bloody Marys is about the only thing I put Tabasco in.

Chrissy:

I put it on my chicken. I don't know. I love They're not

Paul:

to the latest

Katie:

gal says. I don't think they're still doing kids. Right? Okay. Don't know.

Chrissy:

Alright. I was just gonna ask you. So did your Leslie, did your husband ever arm wrestle then?

Katie:

Yes. He arm wrestles.

Rob:

He's

Chrissy:

He is still

Katie:

He's like number two in Oregon, I think. Oh, he is.

Paul:

Yeah. He's really You

Chrissy:

guys are a good team.

Katie:

Yeah. He's great. He's one seventy six weight class. He's he's pretty tall. He's, six three, but only one seventy six.

Chrissy:

So Okay. Now is he here today?

Katie:

No. He's at home with a four year old.

Chrissy:

Okay. Alright. How old are your other kids?

Katie:

19, 17, and 15. All all boys. What?

Chrissy:

And then you have a

Speaker 4:

four year old.

Katie:

Yeah. But I started over. I got divorced. Okay.

Chrissy:

So three are from previous marriage?

Katie:

The three are from my yeah. My ex husband. Okay. All three. And then

Chrissy:

And then the new one.

Katie:

And then I went through three years of

Chrissy:

How long have you been married to?

Paul:

Wreckage. The new one.

Rob:

The new one.

Katie:

We well, we've been married, we've been together since 2019. So almost seven years in February. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Katie:

Cool. His name's Paul.

Chrissy:

Well, hi, Paul. Yeah. Paul, it was a pleasure talking to you.

Katie:

You too. You have I great

Chrissy:

love to hear your story and your life story. Yeah. Good luck the rest of the tournament.

Katie:

Thank you for having me on.

Chrissy:

You on. Yeah.

Katie:

Yeah. Thank you.

Paul:

Thank you

Chrissy:

so much. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. To

Katie:

Seriously, should start arm wrestling.

Chrissy:

Okay. Let's take your rifle.

Katie:

Oh. Oh. I I want everybody to hear what I say for the rest of the

Paul:

day. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Sometimes a cough or gets when he keys and we can hear them.

Paul:

I do that all the time

Chrissy:

as well. We have a patron here from Max's bar at the arm wrestling competition. What's your name?

Rob:

Hulk Hogan, brother.

Chrissy:

Hulk Hogan. Okay. What's your real name? Because I think Hulk Hogan died.

Rob:

Hulk Hogan never has died, brother.

Chrissy:

Rob, Rob, I'm Chrissy.

Rob:

Nice to meet you, Chrissy. Nice

Chrissy:

to meet welcome to Beer, Booze and BS. So we I a liquor store in Zimmerman.

Rob:

Okay.

Paul:

And this

Chrissy:

is where we normally broadcast from, But we've been kind of venturing out. I know the people that are running the arm wrestling competition. They are from our Princeton area. And so they invited us to come and interview arm wrestlers and patrons and whoever wants to talk to get this bullshit. So where are you from, Rob?

Rob:

I live right up here in Oak Grove.

Chrissy:

Okay. And how long have you lived there?

Rob:

Twenty four years

Chrissy:

Okay. At a hobby Nice.

Rob:

Yep. Yep. Horses, goats, sheep.

Chrissy:

Nice. Do you ride horse? Yep. You do? Yeah.

Chrissy:

What kind of horses?

Rob:

They're both quarter horses.

Chrissy:

Okay. I have thoroughbreds.

Rob:

So yeah.

Chrissy:

I love my horses.

Rob:

You don't need any pigs, do you?

Paul:

No pigs.

Rob:

I got a whole don't even eat better.

Chrissy:

I love baby pigs, though.

Rob:

Yeah. We got babies.

Chrissy:

Oh my

Rob:

god. They're so cute. Babies. They're just the coolest little suckers, man.

Paul:

Oh my god. They're adorable.

Chrissy:

But they are so cute, and they're so smart that I refuse to eat them anymore.

Rob:

So Well, they say that a pig is one of the smartest

Chrissy:

Yes.

Rob:

If not the smartest animal on a farm.

Chrissy:

Really? I wouldn't on a farm, 100%.

Rob:

You only take a shit in one spot. Yeah. The one knocks it there.

Chrissy:

They're very, very smart.

Rob:

And clean, just unreal. Really?

Chrissy:

Yeah. You would

Paul:

have never guessed.

Rob:

Yeah. No shit big. Right?

Chrissy:

So what do you do for work? Or what do you do for

Rob:

I own a landscaping lawn service Oh, tree service. Okay. Snow removal.

Chrissy:

Yeah. And so everything?

Rob:

Forty two years. I'm retiring this year.

Paul:

Oh. I was just

Rob:

gonna say October, Don. Are you really? Yeah.

Chrissy:

Then what are you gonna do?

Paul:

Where the fuck you want?

Rob:

You're damn right.

Chrissy:

Yep. Yep.

Rob:

Fucking put in forty two and then a property manager for four, so that's forty eight years of work. Wow. That's a lot.

Chrissy:

You don't that look old, though.

Rob:

I'm 66.

Chrissy:

Are you really? Yeah. You know, I look 66. Yeah. I would have never guessed that.

Rob:

Yeah. 66. Well, thank you, people. Yeah. Appreciate it, guys.

Rob:

Yeah. You

Chrissy:

your lifestyle, whatever you've been doing has been working well for you.

Rob:

Thank you.

Chrissy:

So what brings you to Max's Bar? Is this kinda your home away from home

Rob:

type place? We stop up here for the meet raffle. We have some friends we visit with.

Chrissy:

Okay.

Rob:

So it makes it real nice.

Katie:

Right on.

Rob:

Yeah. It's a really wonderful bar.

Chrissy:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't know if she still works here or not. She used to work the Paul Tab booth here, Becky.

Rob:

Yep, Becky's still here.

Chrissy:

Is she

Rob:

still Yep.

Chrissy:

I worked with Becky back in the nineties at Tequila Berry's. Oh. So, yeah. Actually, people used to think we were sisters.

Rob:

Yeah, she got the two toned hair.

Chrissy:

I don't, I haven't seen

Rob:

her She in a got two toned hair.

Chrissy:

She used to be a blonde.

Rob:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

Yeah, long blonde hair. When we worked together, she, I was maybe like three or four years older than her, but yeah, she was my club buddy. Yeah. We actually went to Jamaica one time together too. She started she started dating our boss.

Chrissy:

Oh, god. That's a killer, Mary.

Speaker 4:

So

Rob:

hey. So Whatever works.

Chrissy:

We all

Paul:

That never works.

Chrissy:

And I was married. My first husband passed away, but so we all went to Jamaica together. But yeah. A lot of great great friends

Rob:

and husband I see.

Chrissy:

I do. Yeah. That would be him right there.

Rob:

Oh, look at that.

Chrissy:

Yeah. That's Michael. Yes. Yes. You married?

Rob:

She was just here.

Chrissy:

That's your wife?

Rob:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

Okay. Yeah. And how long have you been married?

Rob:

Three

Chrissy:

years. So of duly wed.

Rob:

Funny thing, in my business, I stopped at a facility called BKBM Engineers.

Chrissy:

Yeah.

Rob:

And I walked in and I said, Can I have your contract for the lawn service, trees, what have you? And here I had to talk to her. Oh. Well, she hired me, and twenty years, and her husband passed away. So she's

Chrissy:

a widow.

Rob:

And she says to me, she goes, Rob, I've always had a crush on you, But I've been faithful. Yeah. So could you like to go out? I said, let's do this. Nice.

Rob:

So like that story. Took her to a pumpkin patch, and for Christ's sake, I got down on one knee.

Chrissy:

Well, how long? Not the first date.

Rob:

No. After after an owner twenty and and two years later.

Chrissy:

Two years later. Okay.

Rob:

So I bought her a nice ring, and

Chrissy:

Good. Yeah.

Rob:

She says I go, honey, what do you want for our wedding gift? Yeah. She goes a horse. So I went out and bought her a 16 handcorder. Nice.

Rob:

Yeah. We both got a horse. Present. Yeah. And

Chrissy:

things are going well?

Rob:

Yeah. Obviously. No arguments. We don't disagree. Argue.

Rob:

Nothing.

Chrissy:

So do you guys like to travel? Do you go destination?

Rob:

Well, I have a cabin on Mille Lacs Lake as

Chrissy:

well. Okay.

Rob:

And we go there and go boat and fish in and

Paul:

Okay.

Rob:

Yeah.

Paul:

Nice.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Do you ever go through Zimmerman?

Rob:

All the time.

Chrissy:

Well, I own Frontier Liquor in

Speaker 4:

Zimmerman.

Rob:

Brother Ron ran Vermeer there. Who's Ron Antelock.

Chrissy:

How long ago was that?

Rob:

Oh, quite some years.

Chrissy:

Don't live in Zimmerman, so I can't vote, you know, there. I'm like even though my business is there, I don't live

Rob:

in the town. Barney owned?

Chrissy:

I own Frontier Liquor. It's a liquor store. Store. Yeah. Right on the highway.

Chrissy:

So you Do you do good with that? I do. Yeah. Twenty six years now.

Rob:

Oh, boy.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Our our motto is beer, booze, bikes, and babes.

Rob:

Right on.

Chrissy:

So yeah.

Rob:

Wow.

Chrissy:

We've showcased older motorcycles inside of their Harley Davidsons. And all the girls there happen to be just pretty and And of course, we have beer and booze. Well, the name of our podcast is Beer, Booze, and BS. Nice. So that's kinda where that stems from as So Yeah.

Chrissy:

We just drink and bullshit.

Rob:

Right on. And do you guys remember when it we had fat boys up here? Yes. My that white pike that sat in there behind the gate, that was mine.

Chrissy:

Oh, really? Kinda funny story. I met Mike at Fat Boys.

Rob:

Oh, damn. You look familiar too. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Yeah. We met at Fat Boys the very first well, very first time we ever met. Yeah.

Rob:

Wow. How long have you met?

Chrissy:

Riding motorcycle. That was in 2008 on Labor Day. Right? Yeah. Labor Day, 2008.

Chrissy:

We rode

Paul:

It is what I said.

Chrissy:

Friends invited us on a motorcycle ride, that's where we met.

Rob:

Ain't that wonderful? Yeah. Good for you both. Yeah. It's weird how you people meet, just like Tony and I.

Rob:

It's like, holy shit.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Rob:

No wonder twenty years and funny too. I hired some Hmong people and just anybody that I thought would be a good worker. Sure. Well, there's little mung guy who says, hey, boss. Me and Eddie take it half smoke.

Rob:

You go take one in Maintenance Room with Tony, we get new contract. Was funny. Funny or shit. We laughed about that. Goddamn.

Chrissy:

Do you wanna try one of our cocktails?

Rob:

I sure do.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Let me explain

Paul:

to you what it is.

Rob:

What is it?

Chrissy:

We have arm wrestling drinks. It's this one's called the Flash Pin Fizz. So it's vodka, one and a half ounces of vodka, lemonade, triple sec, and a splash of club soda.

Rob:

Good.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Give it a whirl. Wait. Everyone liked it.

Rob:

Wow. That's making me horny.

Chrissy:

Somehow, I think you probably already are.

Rob:

No. I'm not. I'm too old for that shit.

Chrissy:

Oh, whatever. You're never too old for that. Yes. Never too old for that. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Do you wanna play a game of would you rather?

Rob:

No. Yes. You're gonna Good. Alright.

Chrissy:

I'll cover You're gonna play anyways. Let's see. Would you rather fight a horse sized duck or so a duck the size of a horse.

Rob:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

Now we're gonna or would you rather negotiate with 100 duck sized lawyers?

Rob:

The lawyers.

Chrissy:

The lawyers? Yeah. You were okay. Yep. So you like to work with your mouth?

Rob:

Oh, yeah. I'm kind of

Paul:

I feel like a horse sized duck would just take his wing and knock him.

Chrissy:

You right, Doug.

Rob:

Whack you in the vase.

Paul:

Shake you like a tail feather and just wrap the the shit shit on on you. You.

Rob:

Holy Holy shit. Shit.

Chrissy:

Would you rather always have slightly damp socks or permanently a fucking rock in your shoe?

Rob:

Fucking rock in my shoe.

Chrissy:

You would rather have a rock?

Paul:

Oh. You don't want

Rob:

a wet beat. Oh, okay. Hell, no. I don't.

Chrissy:

I don't know. Think I do the damp sock.

Rob:

I got corn in my feet all the time.

Paul:

I don't know. Maybe if you could position that rock or glue it into a certain spot.

Chrissy:

Spot so it just wears one hole.

Rob:

Like, damp

Paul:

socks, man. They're getting blisters.

Chrissy:

I I think I know the answer to this one. If would you rather only whisper or only use a megaphone voice for twenty four hours?

Rob:

Megaphone voice. What are you doing, brother? Can you believe it?

Chrissy:

Exactly how I figured that one out.

Rob:

Yes. And she's pretty smart.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Okay. Would you rather have unlimited front row concert tickets or unlimited back stage snacks? I

Rob:

think I'll take the back stage.

Chrissy:

Oh, you would?

Rob:

Yeah. Okay. I think that'd be better yet.

Chrissy:

Alright.

Rob:

I was backstage with, what the hell, Kid Rock.

Chrissy:

Oh. You know he's my favorite.

Rob:

He, my buddy went to the Buffalo Chip down in Sturgis, and he looks just like Kid Rock, and Kid Rock goes, I'll be damned if I ain't got my twin brother and Hulk Hogan in the audience. Get up here.

Chrissy:

And you got

Rob:

up there?

Paul:

Yeah. Oh,

Rob:

that's awesome. Yeah. He badass. He gave us passes, then he took us out in his RV.

Chrissy:

Oh, what happened out there?

Rob:

Well

Chrissy:

Can we talk about it?

Rob:

Something I meant not to speak about.

Chrissy:

Oh. Okay. Was there some white powder involved?

Rob:

Perhaps. Yeah.

Chrissy:

And maybe a a few chicks?

Rob:

A lot of nudity.

Chrissy:

Lot of nudity.

Rob:

Yeah. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Somehow, I did go to a Kid Rock concert years ago at the Buffalo Chip and had backstage passes, but I didn't get to go in his RV.

Rob:

Oh, man. All marble, gold brass ceilings, lights. Oh, it was incredible. Yeah. He probably had $20,000,000, $30,000,000 in NRBs.

Chrissy:

Oh my goodness.

Rob:

That's Had ass to the bone.

Chrissy:

Well, likes to fly And I did

Rob:

good with the hot little chicks with just their conning little nip and nip covers. And he's like, come on in, Hulk.

Chrissy:

Come on, go. This?

Rob:

Do you remember? O eight.

Chrissy:

Oh, so not even that long ago. Okay.

Katie:

Yep. Nice.

Chrissy:

O eight. We were there in o eight. We were at that concert.

Rob:

You didn't see me? Come on, brother. What are you talking about?

Chrissy:

It was re I remember it was raining, though.

Rob:

Yeah. It was wet.

Chrissy:

Yep. We were it was raining that day. Yeah. Mike and I, we were out there. Oh, that's right.

Chrissy:

I was there oh, shit. I was there with Jake

Paul:

and Bo.

Chrissy:

Never mind.

Rob:

They met at they met at bat bat boys.

Chrissy:

We did. Yes. Yeah. Yep. I actually knew a bunch of the owners, like, when they because there were, like, several owners in the beginning.

Rob:

Yeah. Todd Jasper.

Chrissy:

Todd. I knew Todd.

Rob:

And And Todd Troy Parker. Yeah. Troy.

Chrissy:

And even Brad.

Rob:

Brad. That old '60 5.

Chrissy:

Brad. He owns Route 65.

Rob:

No. Brad? Yeah.

Chrissy:

I didn't know that.

Rob:

And he owns the one in Bradford. Brad Pritch. He owns the hooker's door too. Where?

Paul:

The Redwoods.

Chrissy:

Oh, We're up here.

Rob:

Yep. Okay. Yep.

Chrissy:

I did not know Brad owned all that. He went by a school bus.

Rob:

Should see his woman.

Chrissy:

Pretty good looking? Yeah. Because he's not that good looking.

Rob:

Long hair, tall guy.

Chrissy:

Are we talking about the same Brad? I don't know. His brother's a real estate agent, Chris?

Rob:

That, I couldn't tell you.

Chrissy:

Oh, we might not be talking about the same Brad.

Rob:

Well

Chrissy:

But anyway.

Rob:

With a ring like that, you ain't got much to worry about, honey.

Chrissy:

I'm not worried. I don't worry about anything. So tell me about your fascination with Hulk Hogan because clearly you you are a fan of his.

Rob:

Yeah. I just I think the guy was incredible.

Chrissy:

Yeah. He was Did you ever meet him?

Rob:

You know, we went to Florida to go down and meet him at his clubhouse.

Paul:

Yeah.

Rob:

We get in there. Here he's at a SmackDown, and we're on Pennsylvania, so we didn't get to see him.

Paul:

Oh.

Rob:

But the shop was nothing like you see on on Facebook or shit.

Chrissy:

What do you mean?

Rob:

Well, they had a shower curtain in the back where you did all this karaoke. That was their backdrop. I'm like Oh, really? Yeah. And the chairs and the furniture were just had two chicken sandwiches and two drinks, and the bill was a $160.

Paul:

No. Oh, yeah.

Rob:

No shit.

Chrissy:

Two drinks

Rob:

and two chicken sandwiches.

Chrissy:

How is that possible?

Rob:

You tell me once I wanna go see Hogan. You know, Hogan Hogan's always the man. You know?

Chrissy:

Yeah.

Rob:

But now on his death, they're actually saying to his last neck surgery he had that they hit a main vein

Chrissy:

That's what our hair

Paul:

that's what

Rob:

we're saying. Breathing, and that's really what killed them.

Chrissy:

That's what they're saying. Yeah.

Rob:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

Which is, I don't know, probably gonna be a lawsuit, I would imagine, against the doctors if they could prove it.

Rob:

Yeah. Yeah. They'll practice.

Chrissy:

Definitely a sad day. I

Rob:

mean Yeah.

Chrissy:

It better not a concert. A day or two apart.

Rob:

Yeah. Ozzy too.

Chrissy:

That was a sad day

Rob:

for went wild, though, wouldn't he?

Chrissy:

God. I loved him. Love Ozzy.

Rob:

Did you?

Chrissy:

Yeah. Did you ever see him in concert?

Rob:

No.

Chrissy:

So we

Rob:

too heavy a medal for me.

Chrissy:

Oh, so we flew to I don't know. It was probably, like, ten years ago. He when he did a reunion with Black Sabbath. Oh. And we flew out to Detroit to go watch him at in Detroit, yeah, with some of Prince of Mike's.

Chrissy:

But, yeah, great concert. Yeah. Great concert. So glad I went and got the experience.

Rob:

Yeah. No kidding.

Chrissy:

Guess Ozzy with Black Sabbath was just

Rob:

Yeah. Phenomenal. Would be the only way I'd wanna see it.

Chrissy:

Yeah. It was badass.

Rob:

What band do you play in?

Paul:

Shards of Glass.

Chrissy:

Shards of Glass. Shit.

Rob:

Do you believe that one? I'll tell you later.

Chrissy:

Don't believe it. Does get asked that a lot, though. Yeah. A lot.

Rob:

He looks like a a man guy.

Chrissy:

We were at the casino in Mille Lacs one time, and I had because of my liquor store and my business, I get free tickets every once in a while.

Speaker 4:

Sure.

Chrissy:

Who did we see, Mike? Brett Michaels?

Paul:

You and your mom went to the room.

Chrissy:

But you were there.

Paul:

I was there, but I didn't go to the concert.

Chrissy:

Okay. So you okay. Me and mom went to the concert, and then you were there. So afterwards, I think my mom was off gambling somewhere. We were sitting at a blackjack table, and these guys are, like, all, you know, fucked up or whatever.

Chrissy:

They're like, are you we've seen you tonight. Yeah. You were playing in that band. They thought he was with Brett Michaels. You're the guitar player.

Chrissy:

Right?

Rob:

I'll be damned. Hey.

Chrissy:

We that quite a

Rob:

We went to mister Blake, and they had a dig in the room. It was Price is Right show.

Chrissy:

Oh, yeah.

Rob:

And all this they had this great big huge TV, and it's shining on everybody and I had a do rag on that said Hollywood Hogan glasses and our shirt she made said come on down brother.

Chrissy:

Oh, nice.

Rob:

So then all of a sudden the camera gets up and I'm like yeah. Sure enough, the guy says well ladies and gentlemen, this guy's got a nice wheel on his shirt but we got a celebrity in the audience. Come on down.

Chrissy:

You got it.

Rob:

Yeah. So

Chrissy:

how did you do?

Rob:

I did a great movie, I didn't play, he just brought me down.

Chrissy:

Oh, he didn't get to play?

Rob:

I didn't want to. Oh. But he says to me, put me in a headlock. So I did. And he goes, you're choking me.

Rob:

That's I didn't mean to.

Chrissy:

What? Well, he asked for that.

Paul:

Then he

Rob:

goes, hey. Tell me I don't like you. Lives up in his suit pants. He had Hulk Hogan socks on.

Chrissy:

Oh, that's

Rob:

pretty cool. Pretty cool. Yeah. And then to leave there, everybody can have your picture. You owe my baby.

Rob:

Will you be in our wedding pictures? Was like

Paul:

Shut up.

Rob:

I go, that's good to hell out of here.

Chrissy:

Oh my god.

Rob:

Yeah. Man.

Chrissy:

Were you signing autographs?

Rob:

Well, I bet I had a 100 pictures taken.

Chrissy:

Wow. That's awesome.

Rob:

And I can see why the pomeranzhi hates that shit, though. We couldn't even hardly walk five steps with somebody saying, hey, man. Take your picture with me. Look at this.

Paul:

Do this.

Rob:

Yeah. Blend for me. Yeah. Yeah. Bunch of bullshit.

Rob:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

That's kinda how it is out in Sturgis too. Yeah. Yeah. If you're halfway decent, good looking, it's like, my god.

Rob:

They Oh, I'm sure you get all kinds of

Chrissy:

Well, can be very annoying.

Rob:

Oh, good. I know the same thing. We we couldn't even gamble for god's sake. I put a $100 in the machine, but it took me an hour and a half to blow it because every two minutes I'd get asked for a picture.

Chrissy:

Save you money at least.

Rob:

Yeah, well, that's okay.

Paul:

Or extended your playtime.

Rob:

Yeah, yeah.

Chrissy:

So what do you think you're gonna do, Rob, once you retire? What's the plan? I mean, because like October is No. Know you're

Rob:

One month. Oh.

Chrissy:

So this October And first Oh, thought you were talking next year.

Rob:

No. End of this month.

Chrissy:

Oh, so what are we doing?

Rob:

I I really don't have a

Katie:

game plan.

Chrissy:

No?

Rob:

No. I just Do

Chrissy:

you do you what are your hobbies? What do you like to do? Because you gotta stay busy.

Rob:

I like to hunt. Okay. Ride. Hang around my farm.

Chrissy:

K.

Rob:

I go up to the cabin. I got a nice boat up there. We go out boating quite a bit.

Chrissy:

So are you selling your business or is someone taking it?

Rob:

I already sold it.

Chrissy:

You already sold it.

Paul:

Yeah. Did you

Rob:

get a

Chrissy:

nice chunk of change?

Rob:

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't I don't have to work anymore. That's for damn sure.

Chrissy:

Good for you.

Rob:

You know forty two years and it's kinda, I think the younger generation this year or today is kinda, excuse me, fucked up. Well, think They we all know want the dollar now. Yeah. Don't think about the future.

Chrissy:

No. I know.

Rob:

And my thing is every time I made a $100, I saved $25. Yeah. All the time. All the time. Yeah.

Rob:

And when when I started with the 1960 Montgomery Ward Boer. Now I'm driving a 72 inch Gravely with 38 horse with an EFI and air ride seat.

Chrissy:

Nice. Yeah. Nice.

Rob:

14 miles an hour forward and 12 in reverse. Jesus. Yeah. And that bastard cuts. I knew one side that's 18 acres.

Rob:

I can cut it in three hours.

Paul:

You know what you know what's ridiculous? It's they're like, oh, we need to keep daylight savings because the farmers eat it. No. They fucking don't. No.

Chrissy:

God. This isn't fucking UPS.

Paul:

They got fucking coolers in there. They're probably faking

Chrissy:

up It isn't the eighteen hundreds anymore. Oh my god.

Rob:

My sister sells insurance to farmers, and she had shipped out to Texas to this one farmer who wanted to borrow $15,000,000.

Paul:

Oh. Oh, fuck.

Rob:

And they borrowed the they farmers that shit. K?

Paul:

Oh, yeah. They're you in the blink of an eye.

Rob:

Went out there, and she said, Rob, you already had two. These $7,000,000 apiece, four wheel drive tractors that drive their selves.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Jesus.

Rob:

All they do is program it. The bunker goes down, turn around, comes back. Yep.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Well, I think that's gonna be our future for a lot of people's jobs

Rob:

and careers.

Paul:

You know? Truck driving. Cab driving. They've already got they've already got cabs, like, in Houston and stuff. They already same thing with trucks.

Speaker 4:

Yep. They've already

Chrissy:

had So I'm saying invest in Tesla because Tesla has created this fucking cab.

Paul:

ADI is very heated.

Rob:

They said that Musk, whoever he is, he now is worth a trillion dollars.

Chrissy:

Yeah. He's close to it. I don't know if he is right now, but

Rob:

But he ain't gonna sell none of his shares.

Chrissy:

No.

Rob:

You know, if a guy could, I'd jump in on it.

Chrissy:

He's brilliant. He's brilliant. I'll fucking back. I'll invest in anything he puts his money into. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Anything.

Rob:

Do you drive electric cars?

Chrissy:

I do not drive a Tesla, but I have stock.

Rob:

Yeah. How do you get the stock in Tesla?

Chrissy:

You just buy it.

Rob:

Oh, there's out there to buy it?

Chrissy:

Tesla stock? Yeah. Absolutely.

Rob:

Oh, shit. I'm gonna get my ass busy.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Plus, now it's probably not a good time to buy because it's really just jumped Yeah. Guy high right now. But Yeah. Back when it fell, when he was jumping on the Trump wagon, you know, it it plummeted.

Rob:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Chrissy:

And I bought a

Rob:

bunch. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Definitely. Anything that I think in my mind, anything he he puts out there, I will always like like, that's gonna fucking because he's just a genius.

Rob:

You know? Goddamn man is intelligent.

Chrissy:

He's so beat ahead of our any ahead of our time.

Rob:

You know? What did he he I guess he's got his own. What the hell is that? They're called, not the Hoover things, drone.

Paul:

Oh, no.

Rob:

That he sits in. He

Chrissy:

sits in it?

Rob:

And flies around in it.

Chrissy:

Oh, I believe it.

Rob:

Yeah.

Paul:

I believe it. Of those things, they're badass.

Rob:

Yeah. They

Chrissy:

are. A drone you can sit in?

Paul:

Yes. Yeah. It's it's like it's no bigger than like a basically like a a fucking bucket race seat. It's it's kinda hard to get in the way, at least in what I'd seen.

Chrissy:

Yeah.

Paul:

And it's not much bigger than this section right here. Yep. The whole the blades fold in, so it it's a whole this big when everything's folded in. Yeah. The things fold out, and it's basically just a race car seat, the joint, like a yoga

Chrissy:

So what are you gonna do with that? What would you do with it if you had one?

Rob:

Shit. I'd fly the maxes. Like,

Paul:

you can literally just fly everywhere. It's like, you're just all there and have to do it.

Chrissy:

But what about airspace? Like Yeah. So you have to save. You can't be you'd have to save a low.

Paul:

That's what they're gonna have to figure out.

Chrissy:

Yeah.

Paul:

Like, these things are gonna have to be able to communicate and see or have sensors to pick them up from

Rob:

I'm sure they're gonna be able them for wires. Like that. Well, they would they would keep you at a certain altitude. Right.

Paul:

Yeah. They're probably not gonna give you much more than a couple 100

Rob:

feet Yeah.

Paul:

Over, like, a 100 feet above, like, tree line.

Rob:

Yep. And that's all a guy really needs.

Paul:

Yeah. Exactly.

Rob:

Shouldn't that be tits? Oh, yeah. Getting that bad boy fly up to my cabin, land at the bar. What's up?

Chrissy:

It would be fun. Yeah. Definitely. As long as you don't crash.

Rob:

Yeah. No. I don't think they're they got parachutes on them and everything. Oh, really? Engines quick.

Rob:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

Then I probably feel pretty good about

Rob:

it. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Heck yeah. So are you gonna plan on going on vacation?

Rob:

Well, I'm we're gonna go on a cruise.

Chrissy:

You are. Where are

Rob:

you going? Belize.

Chrissy:

Oh.

Rob:

Cozumel, and some other

Katie:

Have you

Chrissy:

been on a cruise before? No. I have never either.

Rob:

I've either. Says make sure you get a room with a Balcony? Yeah, balcony. I I hope the damn thing the waves are bad, and it's tipping in jail.

Chrissy:

Want it

Rob:

to furniture in there going on over the fucking place.

Chrissy:

You want it to be

Rob:

Oh my god.

Chrissy:

That'd be have a good story to tell.

Rob:

That would be bad.

Paul:

Get a fucking alcohol package too because I heard that Hanks are fucking

Rob:

Yeah. They're like $14 a piece. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Yeah. But all the food you can eat. Right?

Rob:

Yeah. Yeah. And I'll be eating crab boy. Eat eat. Yeah.

Chrissy:

I heard the food on cruises is just phenomenal.

Rob:

Yeah. But it's the cruise 4,700. And then for all the cruises, it's another 5. So fucking food booze, I'll drink $500 of the booze. Oh.

Rob:

And $14 a drink for crazy.

Chrissy:

So how much you spend for two of you? $9

Rob:

or $10? 9. Yeah.

Chrissy:

And then how many days? Seven. Seven? Okay. A week.

Rob:

Yeah. That's funny.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Yeah.

Rob:

I just hope there's some wild ass waves out there.

Chrissy:

So funny story about a cruise ship that I just I just watched this lady's YouTube video the other day. There was a woman who retired early because she I don't know. I don't she didn't really say why she retired or but I don't think she has a lot of money or anything like that.

Rob:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

But she is now YouTubing or whatever. And her journey of she lives on a cruise ship. She sold her house. She sold her car. She sold everything.

Paul:

How can you afford that?

Chrissy:

She lives for $2,000 a month. That's That's why she that's what her YouTube is about is how she does it.

Paul:

I suppose. I mean, you got Yeah. Onboard, you got food, you got drink.

Chrissy:

Yep. Yep. She buys, like, the the specials, like, when the the given the cruise special. So she's not always on the same ship. Right.

Chrissy:

But she's doing it for $2,000 a month.

Paul:

About it. That's a fucking hell of a deal because that's you you got entertainment. You

Chrissy:

got shows. You got everything.

Speaker 4:

You got food.

Rob:

You got Yeah. Started deals.

Chrissy:

I subscribed to her YouTube channel, it was fucking I'm

Paul:

like, hey.

Chrissy:

I can see myself doing this.

Paul:

It comes with, like, a maid service, so someone's cleaning your room.

Katie:

Clean your room? Fuck. Yeah. That's actually

Rob:

Do your laundry.

Chrissy:

Well, you hear about it all the time with the people that do retire that don't wanna go in, like, assisted living or nursing homes yet. They that's being, like, a more common thing is retiring on a cruise ship.

Rob:

Jesus. Never even heard

Paul:

of that.

Chrissy:

Yeah.

Paul:

That's that's fucking interesting. Yeah.

Chrissy:

So well, I think we are gonna wrap this up, and gonna go make some new cocktails. Do you want the last one

Paul:

of that?

Rob:

I most certainly will. Alright. Thank you very much.

Chrissy:

What do you rate that, by the way? One out of 10. What would you give that drink?

Rob:

At least a nine.

Chrissy:

A nine? Okay. Perfect. Wonderful.

Rob:

Whether it in a band, like

Chrissy:

It was such

Rob:

a nice meeting. Nice to meet you, honey. You guys take care

Chrissy:

stickers. Right?

Rob:

You need this.

Chrissy:

Yep. I need that for you. Thank you.

Rob:

Thank you, hon.

Chrissy:

Thank you so much, Rob. A pleasure meeting you. We're back here with what's your Matt Swanson?

Speaker 4:

Yes.

Chrissy:

Matt is a local arm wrestler from Minnesota. He says he lives about ten minutes away from here. How did you get into arm wrestling, Matt?

Speaker 4:

I always did it at bars and stuff like that. You would have I'd start arm wrestling people at the bar for drinks and money. Yeah. Then I

Paul:

way to do it.

Speaker 4:

Then I'd win and then they'd want to fight in the parking lot. Whenever

Chrissy:

there's alcohol involved, I feel like that's a

Speaker 4:

I just recently said, Well, I'm going go try. I heard they're having a competition up here two, three years ago. I said, I want to go try it. And I started with, I just went in never been on a table before. And I said, I'm going wing this and I did it.

Speaker 4:

And I got first my first time.

Paul:

So then

Speaker 4:

I just been kind of going at it.

Chrissy:

Now do you train now more for it? Because it's a whole different ballgame when you're arm wrestling someone at a bar versus there's rules and there's like And they don't want to fight you after it. Well right, which is good. Mean, you have to have your hands a certain way, you have to have your elbows a certain way. Mean, there's a lot more involved in the technicality of it here versus at a bot.

Speaker 4:

I'm very busy person, so I try to practice and train as much as I can. I know Sean and them do some practices and I've been to a couple of them. But great bunch of guys that practice

Chrissy:

and Yep.

Speaker 4:

We all get to get you know, when they all get together, it's,

Paul:

you know

Chrissy:

So what do you do outside of arm wrestling? So you said you're a busy guy. So what what is your run us through a typical day Well in the life

Speaker 4:

of Matt. Well, like, I do bowling too.

Chrissy:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 4:

And then do

Chrissy:

bowling. Leagues. Like, on a league? Or okay.

Paul:

You know, I love bowling.

Chrissy:

Do you? Yeah. Oh my god. My dad do you know my dad was a professional bowler? What?

Chrissy:

Peep, is that a PBA?

Speaker 4:

PBA, yeah.

Chrissy:

Really? When he was 18, absolutely. What the fuck?

Paul:

Jackpot traits. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

I just started doing winter leagues for something to do for us and all the buddies get together. And I do like two, three tournaments a year, bowling. Okay. Do you do

Paul:

the fingers in the seal or do

Rob:

you fuck it, whip

Paul:

it down and do that

Speaker 4:

I do it. I fingers put all in the ball but I kinda chuck it down.

Paul:

So does that spin? Yeah. I think that's so bad ass when they can whip it, like, straight down the fucking gutter, and then all of a sudden, the thing goes fuck it. Then just strike. It's like, what?

Speaker 4:

Right.

Chrissy:

So what's your average? Are you

Katie:

a good bowler?

Speaker 4:

I like I think I'm right now is, like, one ninety a

Rob:

week. Okay. Damn.

Speaker 4:

And then

Paul:

I don't even fucking eat one ninety. I don't even I barely get over, like, the one hundreds. Right.

Chrissy:

Hey. But you have fun doing it.

Paul:

I love it. Yeah. It's great. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Then the summer, I do volleyball and

Paul:

Oh, I love that too.

Chrissy:

So you stay pretty active.

Speaker 4:

I we used to do it at a bar down here, but they closed down. So now we're in North Branch.

Paul:

North Branch? Okay. What's that one in Otsego?

Chrissy:

Who it in North Branch? JJ's? JJ's. Oh, who packs it out for her Otsego? Yeah.

Chrissy:

They do it. Three, Yeah. They have a huge volleyball court.

Speaker 4:

Fuck you.

Paul:

I'd love to do that, but I never have a consistent job

Chrissy:

or long What do you

Speaker 4:

do for work? I buy and sell cars.

Chrissy:

Yeah. So, like, for yourself or for

Speaker 4:

someone else? For myself.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Perfect. So he's one of your shady used car salesman?

Speaker 4:

Yep, exactly. Don't believe a word I say.

Chrissy:

I'm already I'm already doubting everything I said already.

Speaker 4:

And I'm a professional bull rider. Yeah. Yeah. I

Paul:

believe that. Actually,

Chrissy:

have a friend who is a professional bull rider. So

Paul:

Really?

Chrissy:

Yeah. Wyatt. I think No shit. Yeah. He's been professional.

Chrissy:

He's a he's a carrier as well. So he does everything rodeo, though.

Paul:

God. I feel like you could do that for about a year and a half, two years, and then your body's fucking

Chrissy:

I honestly don't know how he does what he does. Like, bending over all day long, shoeing horses, and fighting with a fucking 1,500 pound animal.

Paul:

I mean, I know there's because

Chrissy:

many of them are assholes.

Paul:

Right? Know there's, like, certain ways to get in, on, off, and shit like that, but still it's like Yeah.

Speaker 4:

I rode a horse a couple of times, but I'd never do that again.

Chrissy:

Why? Just Not a good experience.

Speaker 4:

1,500 pounds. They'd kick the crap out

Rob:

of me. Oh

Katie:

yeah. 3,000 pounds.

Chrissy:

So did you have a bad experience or you were just

Speaker 4:

I just know better.

Chrissy:

You're just nervous. So like, I made well, I didn't make him get a horse, but Mike got a horse because I was riding horses a lot. And he's like, I wanna go. Then he got us gets a horse. And he he then he tells me, like, years later, he goes, I was white knuckling it the entire time.

Rob:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

And I'm like, really? Because we all ride motorcycle. And I'm like, he's definitely more scared of a horse than he is of a bike.

Speaker 4:

I'd rather twist my own throttle.

Chrissy:

Yeah. He was like, you're in full control.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

Do you ride bike? Yep. Yeah. What do you ride?

Speaker 4:

Streetclad.

Chrissy:

Okay. Yeah.

Paul:

Blue one? No. Blue one? I just seen a blue street. Oh.

Paul:

Sit out there.

Katie:

That's why I was like, take a shot.

Chrissy:

Oh, right on. Is it out here? Did you ride today? Because it's nice out.

Speaker 4:

It is nice out. I wish I would have.

Paul:

Fuck yeah. Supposed to be one fucking 90 today. So

Chrissy:

where is it? You have an office? Do you work out of your house?

Speaker 4:

I just work out of my house.

Chrissy:

That's perfect. Where do you where do you put the cars? Like, are you

Speaker 4:

I stack my yard up full. You

Chrissy:

do? Well, do you? Okay. Well, the reason I'm asking is near my liquor store, actually, right next to it Yeah. There was used to be a restaurant there.

Chrissy:

When that restaurant went out of business, they sold the building to a company that bought it, gutted the whole building out and made like, I don't know, 20 offices and they're all card card dealerships. Oh. But there really isn't any cars there or people ever there, but they needed by law to have, like, an office somewhere. Do you know what I'm even talking about? Right.

Katie:

I understand.

Chrissy:

More and more I see them happening more all the time. So that's kinda like the same thing or you can do it out of your house.

Speaker 4:

I'm not gonna get too far in detail into that.

Chrissy:

Oh, I'm not giving up their secrets.

Speaker 4:

Right.

Chrissy:

I don't think the IRS will be watching if that's the problem. Or

Speaker 4:

other competitors.

Chrissy:

Oh, there you go. Yeah. We'll go back to arm wrestling then. So three or four years ago, professionally like, I wanna say professionally, you would've got into your first tournament

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

And that was here? No. Were there any have you gone any other places?

Speaker 4:

I haven't.

Chrissy:

No? So you just kinda just stick to the home?

Speaker 4:

Well, I stick to this one, but I'm gonna probably do state next year and then it's been busy and stuff like that. Hopefully I'm going to train this winter pretty good and then hopefully come back and go to state and try to win some So

Chrissy:

what's your workouts like? Assuming you work out at the gym, clearly you look like you work out at the gym. So do you do power lifting stuff ever? Have you ever had?

Paul:

Not really.

Chrissy:

No? Okay.

Speaker 4:

I just play around with dumbbells.

Chrissy:

All right. Hang on. Where do you work out at home?

Speaker 4:

At home, Planet Fitness.

Paul:

Okay. I

Speaker 4:

would do that, go over to that Farrell's and do the kickboxing.

Chrissy:

Oh, okay. Just

Speaker 4:

stuff like that.

Chrissy:

Yeah. At Farrell's, you said? You do kickboxing? I used to coach at Farrell's. He's one of the coaches.

Paul:

Is that that one in Elk River?

Chrissy:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I took the class. I was the Well, when they opened, I was the very first, like, the very first class that they ever had was my class.

Chrissy:

And we had seven people in my entire class. It was the bong. It was six girls and one guy. Really? Loved it.

Chrissy:

Loved it. Loved it. And as, you know, obviously, as it grew, it got busier, busier and busier.

Speaker 4:

Expensive to

Chrissy:

the point. Yeah. Expensive. But I worked there. So then, you know, it I wasn't really having to pay for anything.

Chrissy:

And was just supposed to be like a fun thing, like, I'll do it once in a while, but they wanted me more and more and more. And then I was like, okay. I already have my own company. You know, I don't need this 10 an hour job. It was supposed to be just for fun and Right.

Chrissy:

Teaching people because when they first started, they didn't have strength training. It was just kickboxing pretty And then they got the dumbbells in and the bands and all that and stuff.

Speaker 4:

So I like going there for the strength training too because

Chrissy:

I do too.

Speaker 4:

They do different like, they do different muscle groups that I would never normally go So I'll go there and they'll tell me what to do and Yeah. You know, and then I

Chrissy:

And your circuit training because you're going fast. So you're burning calories and building muscle I wanna

Paul:

tell me what to do so I'm not sitting at the gym for forty five minutes being like, I should do this or that or

Speaker 4:

I don't know. Sometimes when you get, you're at the gym and you get, you're pretty sore and all of a sudden you sit down, you look at your phone for a minute. Then all of sudden you get lost and all of sudden you're like, shit, I've been here. I've been here for ten minutes.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Somebody's waiting for that fucking machine. Yeah.

Paul:

Exactly. Yeah.

Chrissy:

I like to get in and get out. Have all I'm a very prepared gym worker outer. Like when I go, I have it. I know everything I'm doing. It's either on my phone or in a booklet or something.

Chrissy:

And I get in, get out and done.

Speaker 4:

I get people like, hey, you want a buddy to go workout with? I'm like, no.

Chrissy:

I don't really like working out with people. I'll be I don't want

Speaker 4:

just go there, get in there, get out. I don't want to talk to anybody.

Chrissy:

I don't I hate talking to people. I wear my headphones and sometimes they're not even on. Sometimes I just have selfie ball. Sometimes I just have them on my head. Yeah.

Chrissy:

So you fuckers are talking about me, I'll hear you. You know, some just because I don't wanna talk to people. I'm in a hurry, and I wanna get in and get out. Yeah. There's other days.

Chrissy:

If I know, like, Kaylee and Sean, they go to the same gym as me. So if I see them, I will talk to them and bullshit with them for a little bit. But, yeah, I'm not a I'm not a yap or at the gym. My jaw muscles are just fine. Right.

Paul:

How was it like, you know, so you said you arm wrestle just random people at the bars.

Chrissy:

Oh, yeah.

Paul:

How was it from going to bat to actually like a tournament where there's rules or like different positioning that you can or can't do?

Speaker 4:

Well people always said that there was technique in it and I always said, well then I guess it's natural because I don't know what you're talking about. Right,

Rob:

that's what

Katie:

I'm saying.

Speaker 4:

Then I started practicing and I started coming up and seeing and I realized, wow, there's so much I do and I have no clue what I'm Right.

Paul:

Yeah. That's what I've kind of been learning too, like all different rules, techniques, and it's just like

Chrissy:

So are you when you arm wrestle, are you more staying in? Are you like in position? Or are you wanna get the jump?

Speaker 4:

Well, I'd like to get the jump. A lot of times when I get the jump, I'll hurt my arm. Okay. So then I like to let them go, and But then I you do it to a strong guy, he's gonna put you down.

Chrissy:

He's gonna put you down. Right. So what's what what have you learned the most? Like, what technique have you learned the most or what has what have you improved on the most by training and actually doing the competitions versus just barbrawling or whatever.

Speaker 4:

I guess it's more of the stuff that I've learned and I'm getting down is more of the stance. Like where to put your shoulders, where to

Chrissy:

Yep.

Speaker 4:

The position is everything. And I've been learning more of that than So

Chrissy:

what kind of exercises do you do to prepare yourself for something like this or if any?

Speaker 4:

Well, I just do my normal workouts but I have a arm wrestling table at home with the pulley system. Oh. And I just kinda just go

Chrissy:

Okay.

Paul:

Well, that's

Chrissy:

a smart task. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

And it's got some weights on it. I just

Paul:

Oh, no. Shit. So

Rob:

it's kinda like

Paul:

one of those ball. What do you call it? Those boxing Oh, yeah. Like the machine where you can do it.

Speaker 4:

Well, it's kinda you you pretend you're so Sylvester Smalls from over

Paul:

the top. Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 4:

And you can you can

Paul:

set your own weights.

Chrissy:

Everybody knows that. Rocky

Paul:

mode and Yeah. Fucking whatever whatever other actors are in there that he could have gone against. Yeah.

Katie:

Bitches love it.

Chrissy:

Has there ever even been another arm wrestling movie other than that one?

Speaker 4:

I don't think so.

Chrissy:

I mean, now it's old.

Speaker 4:

But there should be.

Chrissy:

There should be. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Right? They should have over the top too.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Yeah. They should.

Speaker 4:

Oh, reboot.

Chrissy:

Semester, though. We need some fresh meat. Even though he's a badass.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Rob:

That guy's fucking drunk.

Chrissy:

His body is, like, phenomenal. Yeah. 77 he is. It's insane how Yeah. And good a shape he's in.

Paul:

He looks like he's in his fifties.

Chrissy:

Oh, he's Right. Just do you watch Tulsa King?

Speaker 4:

Yes.

Chrissy:

Yes. Great. I love that.

Speaker 4:

Do you

Paul:

watch that? I've seen it a couple times.

Katie:

Oh, it's

Paul:

so good. It's so good.

Speaker 4:

The new season's coming out, actually.

Chrissy:

It should be. Yeah. Coming up pretty soon. Oh, seasons

Speaker 4:

of that do

Paul:

they have?

Chrissy:

Think two. Third third should be coming out pretty soon. Yeah. But, yeah, it's a good show. Definitely.

Chrissy:

I don't I don't know. I have not watched anything that I didn't like him in.

Speaker 4:

Right. Me either.

Chrissy:

I can't think of any movie that I'd be like, oh, I ain't watching that.

Paul:

I don't know.

Chrissy:

He's just he's just cool as fuck.

Speaker 4:

Well, back in the day, we used to you know, when we get we have partying all weekend when we're young. Sundays was lay around day and have a Rocky Marathon.

Chrissy:

Rocky Marathon? Sure. There's plenty of them now. How many is there? Like seven,

Katie:

I think.

Chrissy:

Or seven. There's a lot.

Speaker 4:

Well, if you start counting the creeds and stuff.

Chrissy:

Right, all those. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

So maybe there's like eight or nine.

Chrissy:

Because like he's written them all. So I consider Yeah, he's he's a very, very talented man. And how do you like did you like Rambo?

Speaker 4:

Who doesn't?

Chrissy:

Okay, well, some people don't.

Paul:

Yeah. I just seen something on don't know if it was YouTube, Facebook, or something where he got some company made him his own custom Rambo knife. Oh. The thing was fucking gangster.

Chrissy:

Oh, right on.

Speaker 4:

I don't

Paul:

know if he's selling them or water being looked at.

Chrissy:

You should have you ever seen that knife that I have in my garage that someone made gym? Mhmm. Similar to that. It's a custom made made a bone handle.

Paul:

It's Oh.

Chrissy:

The blade's like that fucking thing. Yeah. It's engraved. I don't remember what it says on it, but dude from Buffett Hill City made it made it for Jim. And, yeah, my first husband had passed.

Chrissy:

He's dead now. His name was Jim. But, yeah, I have it hanging up in my garage at home. It's pretty fucking badass. Yeah.

Chrissy:

It's pretty cool. But yeah.

Speaker 4:

You don't have to put that up on that screen.

Chrissy:

I will. Yeah. I will.

Paul:

Yeah. Yeah.

Chrissy:

I will. I think I can put it up. I might have some derogatory stuff on there, though. Don't remember what the writing says.

Speaker 4:

Oh, you might have to blur

Chrissy:

out the I have to blur out the writing. I don't remember.

Paul:

Remember. You get demonetized.

Chrissy:

Yeah, exactly.

Paul:

I don't even know what that means. Stupid.

Chrissy:

Well, who are you wrestling today?

Speaker 4:

I have no idea.

Chrissy:

Oh, you don't even know?

Speaker 4:

I mean, look. I didn't see So

Chrissy:

you don't do a lot of preparation for this. You just fucking show up.

Speaker 4:

I'm just showing up and

Chrissy:

I'm I'm gonna do gonna I didn't want to.

Paul:

You didn't win a lucky Heisman.

Chrissy:

So how many what's your win and loss record?

Speaker 4:

Well, I don't know if I have I don't I've never done it, like, checked my record.

Katie:

K.

Speaker 4:

But, like, I did two like, the next tournament I did, I did I got third. And then

Chrissy:

I won. You say third, that's third place. So

Speaker 4:

The third place in my weight class.

Chrissy:

So you lost two people then? Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 4:

A lot of times it depends on how you get

Chrissy:

How it lines up.

Speaker 4:

How it lines up. Right. Man, I smoked that guy and got second, but

Chrissy:

Right.

Speaker 4:

But since the order went this way and I had to go before him.

Paul:

See that's

Chrissy:

So yeah, we were talking about that all

Paul:

And like the bracket? I mean, someone who you've beaten before could end up winning just because they had like a light couple of rounds and then you might be had a couple of rounds where you had a struggle and then now you both show up and he's fucking rockstar ready and you're And you're burnt out, right.

Speaker 4:

Oh, yeah. I've had it where, you know, they'll send them, like, got done, you know, going for two minutes and all of sudden you're like, you get done, you're like, holy crap. And then all of sudden,

Paul:

like, get back up. You're going

Speaker 4:

up and you're like, oh.

Paul:

Fuck that.

Speaker 4:

You're not

Chrissy:

So you're burnt out. So do you do only right handed or do both?

Speaker 4:

I'm only doing right handed right now.

Paul:

Okay. What's your better hand?

Speaker 4:

Well, always underestimate my left. I always say I can't. I'm not as strong with my left, but then I'll arm wrestle with somebody's left and I'll win. Yeah.

Chrissy:

But then so it's kinda the same thing where the majority everyone's left is usual usually weaker. Right.

Rob:

I don't know.

Chrissy:

So you like to go right handed though. That's where you feel better or

Speaker 4:

more Yeah. Well, I I don't wanna do both because I don't wanna hurt myself. Because normally, I can't move my arm for, like, a couple days.

Chrissy:

You really?

Speaker 4:

Yeah. After you go to some tough matches, sometimes it's like a month you're

Chrissy:

like that. So how many matches will you go to at a tournament? Like one tournament? Sometimes

Speaker 4:

seven, sometimes two. You know what I mean? It depends on how

Chrissy:

many You ever people worn anything?

Speaker 4:

I have not gotten injured.

Chrissy:

You ever seen anyone break an arm?

Paul:

You ever break anyone's arm?

Speaker 4:

No, I haven't.

Chrissy:

Not yet. Not yet.

Speaker 4:

I don't watch it.

Chrissy:

So tell me about your I want Let's go back. Let's tell me about your bar incidents. Was like the ones where you end up going outside and fighting. Or did you go outside

Speaker 4:

and Well normally, since I have a pretty loud bark, don't have to fight. So I try not to fight. But I will get right in. I mean, I'll let them know that I'm not scared.

Chrissy:

Is it usually young, younger punks?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, the young punks.

Rob:

The young

Chrissy:

punks, yeah. I knew it. If did

Paul:

something, I'll fucking

Speaker 4:

kill And I always would tell them, I said,

Chrissy:

Do you say put your money where your mouth is?

Speaker 4:

Well, I would. Then I'll say, Hey, just because I beat you right now, if I do, does not mean I can kick your ass in the parking lot. Put it

Rob:

out there.

Speaker 4:

Then

Rob:

Tell the fuck to

Speaker 4:

Then normally just like right after I beat him. Hey, I wanna fight in the parking lot.

Chrissy:

But Yeah.

Paul:

I'll just tell you, fucking death

Speaker 4:

retarded. Right.

Chrissy:

So my husband that passed away, he was ginormous. Yeah. Kinda like that guy. Yeah. Yeah.

Rob:

He was

Chrissy:

bigger. Huge, Definitely wider than that guy, but great big arms. And he always wore muscle shirts or whatever. But same thing, you know, in a bar drinking or whatever, just trying to have fun. And some young punk would always he would get his arms squeezed all the time by dudes.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Yeah. By dudes.

Speaker 4:

Girls don't care.

Rob:

No. The

Speaker 4:

dudes get more attention by guys.

Paul:

I just gotta touch these

Chrissy:

things. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? You wanna just get fucking murdered?

Paul:

It's like that those those commercials of, like, Instagram shit or

Chrissy:

whatever. Do you get that?

Speaker 4:

Yeah. It's It's so weird. And it's always guys. It's never No.

Chrissy:

No. It's never girls.

Paul:

And it's like it's like, oh, I bet you're only working. I'll see you pick up all

Katie:

these chicks. And then it's like

Rob:

Yeah.

Paul:

Like, reality versus Instagram.

Katie:

And it's like Instagram. It's like, the chicks

Paul:

come up and grab it. And then reality, it's all

Speaker 4:

the dudes that's like, yeah. Wanna see your arms. Exactly.

Chrissy:

So because he was so big, he would get arm wrestling challenges, the bar bullshit all the fucking time. And when he was younger, he used to just do it just because he would do it, and he'd always win. I don't think he ever lost, by the way. But he finally, as he was getting older in his forties, you know, it was still happening. And he would then we he'd only do it for money.

Chrissy:

Put your money where your mouth is because I'm not gonna fucking, you know

Paul:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

And now we're talking

Paul:

would be

Chrissy:

like Now you're talking he's in his forties, and he's He's

Paul:

like a 100 five out of

Chrissy:

12 years older than these guys or whatever. Yeah. Go ahead. One

Speaker 4:

more. Right?

Chrissy:

And so, yeah, I definitely know what you're talking about. Just weird random shit like that. And, yeah, I remember one time we were at SRO years ago, and there was allegedly a state champion arm wrestler in there that was also on a softball team that night or whatever. They were got done playing softball. I don't know.

Chrissy:

Softball players kinda have big balls. A lot of them do. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Chrissy:

Because they're on a team and they're together, you know, and they start drinking and They all get all jacked up. Yeah. They get all jacked up. Had many rounds of softball players throughout our years. But, yeah, he ended up arm wrestling him and just stomped his

Rob:

back.

Katie:

Well, sometimes

Chrissy:

And then the whole softball team wanted to fight him. That's like Oh, yeah. You know? And then Jim will be like, bring it fucking on, you fuckers. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Right. He wasn't afraid

Rob:

to fight

Chrissy:

That's for sure.

Paul:

Team. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Yeah.