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[00:00:07] Speaker: Welcome back to Skin Side Out. Today, we are talking about how to maximize your treatments in the office by things you can do at home, as well as boosters you can add in the office. So we will going
We will be going over everything inside and out. Today, we are joined with Heather, and that's it. Nosy today. Girls
[00:00:28] Speaker 2: rule.
[00:00:28] Speaker: Yeah. We're taking over this podcast, and we'll talk about the things that we wanna talk about. Everyone loves to do a treatment. I think everyone's expectations from different treatments can vary.
I think people want things to be a magic wand, and just, like, work.
[00:00:47] Speaker 2: Yeah. I also think that there are things that you can do though that can take your treatment to a different level. Like, you could do the same ... Two p- patients could do the same treatment- Mm-hmm ... with the same provider and have completely different results- Mm-hmm
depending on what you're doing before, during, and after.
[00:01:03] Speaker: I agree. I think at-home skincare that you're doing can really amplify a treatment. I mean, even when we look at things like, you know, ironically, we'll tell patients, like, not to be on a retinol or retinoid before a chemical peel. I have a subset of patients, I've worked on them for a long time, and I will encourage them to use that retinol- Yeah
before the peel to really elicit that nice response. So yeah, I think depending on what you're doing at home, you can really maximize some of the things that you're getting in the office because, you know, they're not overnight fixes. Um, I think people sometimes, and I'm guilty of this, think if they neglect their at-home skincare they can just do a treatment, and it's all gone, and you're all
You know? Like, I'm guilty of that. I'm like, "Oh, I didn't use my retinol, but I'll just do a laser." Or
[00:01:44] Speaker 2: sunscreen.
[00:01:46] Speaker: I use sunscreen now.
[00:01:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't use it all the time.
[00:01:50] Speaker: You know what? This year I've gotten really good about it.
[00:01:52] Speaker 2: Okay.
[00:01:52] Speaker: Really good about it. And I think it's because I was guilt-tripped by you guys.
So it's working.
[00:01:58] Speaker 2: So to break down today, we'll talk about common pre-treatment mistakes, um, what not to do after procedures, the importance of skin prep, the role of medical grade skincare, and how in-office boosters can take your results to the next level. So we'll start with pre-treatment. Um, so I think a lot of people think that their treatment starts the day of their procedure, but it actually starts days, even maybe weeks in advance.
And so the skin before treatment directly impacts how you heal, how much downtime you have, the risks of complications, and overall results.
[00:02:35] Speaker: Yeah. I think, you know, when you think about just healthy skin in general, I mean, it's gonna take better to a treatment rather than compromised skin. So when your barrier's disrupted, when you're having active acne breakouts, um, things like that obviously are gonna impact treatment.
So what you're doing at home definitely makes a huge difference. Um, first and foremost, obviously, is gonna be your sunscreen. Mm-hmm. Um, no provider is gonna wanna treat burnt skin. , You put yourself at risk for many things. Like with laser, you can put yourself at risk for complications such as- burning, Or
[00:03:05] Speaker 2: hyperpigmentation
[00:03:06] Speaker: hyperpigmentation. Um, just even more sensitivity during the procedure. Um, you know, chemical peels, same thing. So I think being really diligent about your sunscreen. And you're like, "This is rich coming from you," but, um Um, it is really important. IPL. IPL is another huge one. I have refused to treat patients if they are too tan.
[00:03:29] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[00:03:29] Speaker: So.
[00:03:29] Speaker 2: Yeah. Another one is keeping the skin hydrated, so that's super important. And the h- skin generally heals better and tolerates the procedures more effectively. And, um, so that means drinking plenty of water, um, using barrier supporting moisturizers, avoiding over-exfoliation leading up to your treatment.
And I think this is really important, and I think people overlook this because they think like, "Oh, if I exfoliate before- Mm-hmm ... my laser, I'd have a better outcome." But a lot of the lasers will target water in the skin. Mm-hmm. And so the more hydrated you are, the more- effective the procedure can actually be.
Um, so also kind of on the flip side, if your skin is, like, irritated or dry or compromised, then it can be a lot more reactive to the procedures, and that can affect the downtime, too.
[00:04:21] Speaker: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, I just think about, like, during allergy season, I feel like I see so many more... Like, when I see reactions, it's always during allergy season- Mm-hmm
of, like, itching, irritation, things like that. I think, you know, just having that compromised barrier really adds a wedge in things, so.
[00:04:37] Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
[00:04:39] Speaker: Um, you always want to follow any medication instructions. So depending on the procedure you're doing, so things like chemical peels, lasers, um, CO2, of course, we're typically gonna ask you to come off any of your, um, retinoids, um, retinol, some of the exfoliating acids, things like that.
Um, but even, like, certain supplements. Um, I know, like, when I do microneedling and sometimes some laser, I'll actually have my patients come off any, like, fish oil or, like, vitamin E or stuff like that- Mm-hmm ... that can increase, um- Yeah ... risk of bruising. Um, things that people I think commonly forget to mention is recent tanning, um, self-tanner.
That's a huge one. I cannot tell you- Yeah ... how many patients that I do laser hair on come in with self-tanner, and I'm like, "Uh-uh."
[00:05:20] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[00:05:21] Speaker: Like, scrub yourself clean.
[00:05:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
[00:05:23] Speaker: Come back to me later.
[00:05:24] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[00:05:24] Speaker: Obviously, pregnancy or breastfeeding.
And then, you know, recent antibiotics, uh, autoimmune conditions. If you've had any, like, weird things in the past, you should definitely be letting your provider know. Mm-hmm. Like, "Oh, I had IPL three years ago, and it was weird. I had this hive-like reaction." You know, things like that you should be telling us.
[00:05:42] Speaker 2: Or a history of cold sores- Mm-hmm ... 'cause that can trigger-
[00:05:44] Speaker: Mm-hmm ...
[00:05:45] Speaker 2: to pop up. Um, so kind of going into, like, pretreatment don'ts. Um, so you don't want to over-exfoliate. Like I mentioned earlier when we were talking about the hydration, um, a lot of times when you are over-exfoliated, it causes the skin to be more inflamed, and then the skin can sting.
It can burn. You might peel more excessively than you would normally with that treatment. You'll heal poor- poorly, and, um, you can develop PIH, which is post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation.
[00:06:15] Speaker: Excessive sun exposure before procedures. Um- Do not do. Yeah. Like, don't go on a vacation to the tropical islands and come back and notice all your brown spots and say, "I want IPL."
[00:06:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, 'cause it'll catch the other stuff, too.
[00:06:30] Speaker: Exactly. So it will, um, yeah, delay the healing, put you at risk of, you know, essentially burning the skin. When that laser is picking up on pigment it's essentially overworking itself, and it's picking up on that surrounding pigment. So yeah, it's hitting that brown spot, but it's also hitting all those melanocytes in the skin that you've acquired on your-
[00:06:47] Speaker 2: Yeah
[00:06:47] Speaker: vacation.
[00:06:48] Speaker 2: Yeah. Um, another do not is scheduling treatments right before a major event, so like a wedding, um, a vacation, photo shoots, anything like that, because there is downtime with most things, and even minimal downtime can sometimes lead to, like, bruising, um, swelling, flaking, purging, redness. You can also have, like, the potential for blistering and crusting.
So you definitely don't want to, um, risk it. I think a lot of people want that. Mm-hmm. We get a lot of patients in the office that are like, "I want CO2, and I need to be ready for my presentation next week." Mm-hmm. And it's like, "Well, you're probably still gonna be pretty red."
[00:07:34] Speaker: Yeah. Filler I feel like is a h- a huge one that we see that people come in, like, the week before.
Mm-hmm. And I'm always like, "The swelling-" Mm-hmm ... the risk of bruising, like..."
[00:07:43] Speaker 2: You really gotta let it settle.
[00:07:44] Speaker: Yeah. Filler I don't... Like, the only thing I really will do on a patient is probably, like, a facial if I've been treating them. I do always warn them about risk of purging 'cause-
[00:07:54] Speaker 2: Yeah ...
[00:07:54] Speaker: there is always that risk es- especially if you're acne prone and you haven't been on any, um, you know, topicals like a retinoid or any exfoliating, uh, agents.
You know, if you do a chemical peel or you do a facial it might bring s- up stuff to the surface, and- Yeah ... no one wants that before- Yeah ... an important event,
[00:08:08] Speaker 2: so. Yeah. So after treatment, your skin is very vulnerable, and what you do after the treatment is very important, and it can help or hurt you. So, um, one big thing that is really important is obviously following instructions. Um, it is very different on what you can do after a facial versus what you can do after a CO2.
So, um, you know, s- some people can start after a facial using their retinoid, like maybe that night- Mm-hmm ... or the night after, whereas CO2 you're waiting like seven to 10 days.
[00:08:41] Speaker: Mm-hmm. Um, yeah, you definitely wanna be in like protection mode, um, after and like healing mode, so, you know, just keeping it really gentle and really hydrating is always gonna be the most important thing.
Um, you know, your skin's gonna be more compromised, and it's gonna be sensitive. And I have ran the trial many times on myself of- ... trying to add things back too soon, and they never work well. Um
[00:09:07] Speaker 2: Um, some good, like, post-procedure ingredients to include can be, like, hyaluronic acid, ceramide-rich moisturizers, growth factors, peptides, and then yeah, just like very basic gentle cleanser and moisturizer
[00:09:22] Speaker: Exosomes.
I know we've been using- Mm-hmm ... The Plated lately. And I will say, um, pre and post-treatment, it's been phenomenal. The LaseMD is a laser we do in the office, and normally there's about a week of downtime of just sandpapery kind of appearance and feeling. Mm-hmm. And anyways, I had pre-treated with The Plated, and I felt like my recovery time was a lot shorter this last time around.
Mm-hmm. And then I used it post-treatment too. I felt like I was only at, like, maybe four days instead of seven, so.
[00:09:51] Speaker 2: Yeah. Um- It definitely calms down the inflammation a lot quicker.
[00:09:53] Speaker: Yeah. I think, it ... We're getting to this future of like, yeah, using at-home products to, yeah, just get the best benefit out of these treatments- Mm-hmm
limit downtime. I mean, I feel like I have those two subsets of patients, like the patients that are like, "I don't want any downtime at all"-
[00:10:08] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm ...
[00:10:09] Speaker: or the patients that are like, "It's not working unless I look- Mm-hmm ... jacked up."
[00:10:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Even like the, the BENEV Exosomes, like they ... There's an in-office treatment that we can add post-procedure, but there's
They also have, in addition to Plated, um, like an at-home treatment where you can use exosomes to not only help you heal, but also going back to, like, the pre-treatment. Mm-hmm. It can give you a really, um, significant change in the amount of downtime that you're having if you, like, pre-treat with it.
[00:10:37] Speaker: Mm-hmm. I definitely fall into that category. I don't want any downtime ever. Like, I want all of the results. Yeah. Um, I don't mind waiting. I just don't wanna look crazy.
[00:10:46] Speaker 2: Yeah. So. Yeah. Um, another important thing to do post-treatment is SPF, um, religiously. You have to be like extra, extra diligent- Yeah ... about this.
Um, your skin is much more susceptible to any sort of UV damage, any sort of pigment changes, , prolonged redness and uneven healing. So, um, every single day you wanna ... You know, even just a little bit of sun exposure can impact the results, so.
[00:11:15] Speaker: And I think this one sounds so obvious, and, like, people listening are like, "Well, duh," like, "I know that."
But it ... you'd be surprised how often it gets missed- Mm-hmm ... where people think like, oh, like maybe did an hour or two, like, out hiking or, like, they forget to reapply the sunscreen, or they are out, you know, daily. And you know, it, it does make a huge impact. And I think the reapplication is where a lot of people-
[00:11:39] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm
[00:11:39] Speaker: fail.
[00:11:40] Speaker 2: And you have to be careful though, like, with certain procedures where you have channels open. Mm-hmm. Like, there can be some sunscreens that are really irritating too. Mm-hmm. So in the first couple ... Depending on the procedure, the first couple days you wanna be really cautious.
[00:11:52] Speaker: Yeah. Um, my favorite do, be patient.
Um, a lot of treatments, you know- You, even with some things like peels, you'll have your kind of immediate result. I mean, when you're done peeling, that's gonna be your result. But even with peels, um, and other treatments like microneedling, Sculptra, radio frequency, things like that, all of that collagen production is going on underneath the skin.
So it may take up to four to six weeks to see that, like, full benefit of the treatment. It's funny, like, when I have my microneedling, like, series, um, I feel like after the first session people will come to me and they're like, "Ah, I don't know that I really felt like anything changed." I'm like, "Okay, that's fine.
Like, let's see how you look next time." And I feel like the, the third session, they're finally catching up from the first session, and they're like, "Oh, I definitely noticed more of a change this last time around." Yeah. I'm like, "Well, it probably is just that you finally cycled through, and, like, you're noticing that collagen production."
So yeah, patience is a virtue, one that many people, including myself, lack.
[00:13:31] Speaker 2: next topic is, um, post-treatment don'ts. So you definitely don't want to pick, peel, or scrub at your skin. I know it's super, um, easy to want to do that, especially, like, after a chemical peel when your skin is, like, literally hanging off. Um, you can trim the skin as long as you don't pull it. But I think this is really hard for some people.
Um, so that can lead to, like, pretty significant scarring, so you have to be really careful with that. Um, again, pigmentation, risks of infection, and then prolonged healing. So very similar kind of risks with all of these, like, cautionary things that you have to be worried about. But, um, I think especially with picking, there's a high risk of scarring if you're not caref- careful.
[00:14:19] Speaker: I think a lot of ... I get a lot of people who ask me after things like chemical peels or Laze MD, "Well, shouldn't I just exfoliate off the dead skin?" And I'm like, "No. Don't do that," because your skin is still so sensitive. Mm-hmm. And I know it's so tempting to, like, get rid of that skin, but it's in a compromised state, and you really just wanna focus on that reparative, um, nature of the products.
[00:14:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, and the procedure is a very controlled treatment. Mm-hmm. And so we're trying to get the skin to do specific things, and we know how the skin generally heals. So if we let it heal on its own or, like, you know- Assist it with very gentle things. We want the skin to do what it's gonna do versus, like, forcing it to do something- Mm-hmm
before it's ready.
[00:15:06] Speaker: Exactly. Um, you don't wanna restart any active ingredients too quickly, so that can include, obviously, your retinols, retinoids- ... glycolic acid, salicylic acid, in some cases vitamin C. I kind of do, I would say, a case by case, you know, for that. Um, most patients I feel like are fine. I, I know after my chemical peels I'm fine with, like, vitamin C.
Um, sometimes on the lasers I'll say at least for, like, two or three days and then add it back. But- Mm-hmm ... um, you definitely wanna check with your provider, and depending, again, on the treatment that you're doing, that could vary. Um, I've s- definitely, like I said, started my things too early, and you will be irritated and it's just, it's messy and you end up- Yeah.
fixing a lot of problems that you wouldn't have had if you were just patient.
[00:15:49] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Um, another thing is you don't want to work out too soon after the treatments. Um, depending on the treatment, but a lot of heat and sweat and increased circulation can cause swelling to be worse, more irritation, um, but it also depends on the procedure.
Um, this can be, you know, depending on the treatment type, but typically we recommend avoiding, like, hot yoga, um, intense cardio, saunas, steam rooms, stuff like that. I think especially for people who have melasma-
[00:16:23] Speaker: Oh, yeah ...
[00:16:23] Speaker 2: um, any sort of melasma treatment, any of that heat, you really... Like, I tell my patients on their way home, like, "Blast your AC- Yep
in the car." Like- I
[00:16:31] Speaker: tell them to ice,
[00:16:32] Speaker 2: yeah ... yeah, keep that skin cool. Whatever you can do to avoid that heat from settling in-
[00:16:36] Speaker: Mm-hmm ...
[00:16:36] Speaker 2: makes a world of difference.
[00:16:38] Speaker: I do the same even with, like, m- like rosacea or, like, my vascular patients. Um, I, yeah, I don't want them to exercise. I don't even want them to take really hot showers.
Yeah. Um, I want them to, like, ice throughout the day just to keep those vessels nice and closed. Um, and yeah, same thing with the melasma. So I think it's, you know, a lot of people are very, um, into working out, and I always say, "Do it before you come see me, but then take the full 48 hours off," and- Yeah ... yeah, really limit that.
[00:17:07] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[00:17:08] Speaker: I think people don't think about, like, the saunas and the steam rooms too. No. I mean, exercise is one thing, but it really is any of that, like, true humid heat- Mm-hmm ... that's contributing, so. Yeah,
[00:17:16] Speaker 2: definitely. So some key ingredients that can support treatment results. Um, this is something that you would most likely do, like, once your provider's given you the go-ahead, or once your feel, you feel like your skin is back to normal.
Um, but it also depends on, on the, the ingredients, so we'll talk about that too. But retinoids, again, we touched on this. You definitely wanna wait until your skin has calmed down a little bit, but this can support collagen production and improve the texture of your skin.
[00:17:43] Speaker: Yeah, it's definitely... If you're doing any in-office treatments, you really should be on a retinoid- Mm-hmm
like, year-round. And again, like, yeah, coming off of it before the treatment, a little bit after. But that really should be your, like, mainstay ingredient- Yeah ... that you're using consistently for it to complement those procedures.
[00:18:03] Speaker 2: Antioxidants, so these like s- vitamin C, um, is probably the most well-known one.
Um, this can help protect against environmental damage. Again, something that you should be doing before and after treatments, but not while you're healing.
[00:18:17] Speaker: Mm-hmm. Growth factors, peptides, this, you know, has been a little buzzy. I would say exosomes have kind of like taken over the, the growth factor, um, space a little bit.
Mm-hmm. But I, when I'm doing any kind of like collagen production, like any kind of microneedling, RF, things like that, IPL sometimes, like I want them to use a growth factor. I think they will get the best benefit from using something that is also working differently to stimulate collagen. Um, I just notice people have, I would say, increased results when they're pairing it with some- Yeah
kind of growth factor.
[00:18:50] Speaker 2: Yeah. Um, pigment inhibitors, especially for melasma or anybody who is prone to post-inflammatory pigment changes, um, this is really important. And something that you can do, like especially for people who are prone to it, we usually prep with some sort of brightening agent like hydroquinone, and that is something that you typically can do up until the day of your procedure depending on the product.
Um, but something that you, you know, can use afterwards as a preventative too.
[00:19:21] Speaker: Mm-hmm. I, I love hydroquinone. I put so many people on it pre-treatment. I think, number one, it is helping to treat that pigment, and number two, it does act as that safeguard to help prevent against, you know, unwanted hyperpigmentation.
Yeah. So I think it's a win-win.
[00:19:34] Speaker 2: Hydrating ingredients, um, I feel like I'm gonna drill this into your brain. But, um, healthy skin heals and performs better when it's really hydrated, and especially for people who are on the drier side, it can make a big difference.
[00:19:48] Speaker: Yep. So let's talk about some in-office boosters.
So in-office boosters, um, can vary. You've probably heard of obviously PRP. We've talked about it quite a bunch, um, platelet-rich plasma, exosomes, growth factors, um, targeted serums, even, uh, LED, like red light. Um, so these are typically done, um, post-treatment, and these will help to maximize your treatment results.
Um, they are carefully selected depending on the patient's goals. You know, you might use, for example, a tranexamic acid post, um, you know, post Laserd if you're treating a melasma patient, or maybe a vitamin A when you're treating a patient with microneedling, um, if they're kind of prone to active acne or just want a little bit extra anti-aging results.
So there's different things you can add to procedures, and I think, you know, being open to those will help to really get the best bang for your buck.
[00:20:48] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it can really enhance the healing and reduce the downtime and, um, yeah, like Courtney said, kind of take your treatment to the next level.
[00:20:59] Speaker: Yeah, I was gonna say, I feel lately like I've been leaning closer into some of the serums.
I think the stability is a little bit more predictable than PRP. Um, you know, the problem with PRP is you wanna make sure that you've been healthy. I mean, if you've been sick recently- Mm-hmm ... your plasma might be compromised. Um, I think it can just range a little bit more than I would like. Mm-hmm. So I feel like I've recently kind of made the move to start using more, um, ser- you know, serums that, again, are just predictable- Mm-hmm
stable.
[00:21:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, it is nice because, like, I think a lot of people Like the idea of PRP because-
[00:21:36] Speaker: It's natural ...
[00:21:36] Speaker 2: there's nothing foreign. Mm-hmm. Um, but yeah, with like the exosomes and the growth factors, we have so much within that bottle that we're using, so we know how much we're getting.
[00:21:49] Speaker: Mm-hmm. Yeah, and sometimes there's even enough, um...
I know, like when I do micro-needling for people, those channels are usually open for about 24 to 36 hours. So even sometimes using like the rest of that, um, vial or whatever we're giving. So-
[00:22:02] Speaker 2: Yeah ...
[00:22:02] Speaker: you wanna be cautious about, yeah, what you're using post, um, to really maximize that.
[00:22:08] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, red light therapy we touched on, so that can help kind of calm the inflammation, reduce redness, and support recovery.
I think most people can benefit from red light. Oh,
[00:22:19] Speaker: yeah.
[00:22:19] Speaker 2: There are, like especially for significant types of melasma, you do have to be really careful with red light. Yeah. But, um, thankfully there's not a lot of heat that gets- Mm-hmm ... induced with that.
[00:22:31] Speaker: I get that question a lot from my melasma patients if, you know, if red light is safe.
And- I've seen conflicting data, um, where, you know, even on a patient, even just in office seeing patients, I do have a subset of patients that feel like the red light has actually made their melasma worse. Um-
[00:22:47] Speaker 2: It depends on the wavelength too. It's hard. Mm-hmm. 'Cause there are a lot of different devices out there, and they all have slightly different wavelengths within the red light spectrum.
Um, so there are certain ones that can worsen the melasma a little bit more.
[00:23:02] Speaker: Yeah.
[00:23:03] Speaker 2: Um, but it's, the key is personalization. Um, not every booster is gonna be necessary for every patient, and so it really kind of depends on what issues you're having and what you're looking to target.
[00:23:15] Speaker: And how much they bother you, I think, too.
Yeah. I think, you know, taking that into consideration. If you're looking for something just to rejuvenate and you just wanna feel a little fresh, you know, okay, like maybe just doing a little bit of vitamin A or something. But if you're treating specific concerns, and I think that's where those boosters really shine.
Yeah. Um, if you hate downtime like myself, I think that's where exosomes really shine. Yeah. Um, it'll be interesting, I think, going forward to see how treatments evolve and what that kind of looks like. I have a feeling we're kind of getting to that point where we're maximizing the results a- and limiting the downtime that we have, so.
[00:23:49] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so I think the biggest takeaway from today is that all of your results are not gonna be achieved within one treatment, even though we want that to happen. Um, but it comes from mostly consistency, skin health, the proper kind of skin prep, proper aftercare, and also realistic expectations.
[00:24:10] Speaker: Yeah, it's like the...
I always say, like, you know, you go to the dentist twice a year, get your teeth cleaned, but you're still gonna brush at home. You're still gonna floss at home. Mm-hmm. You're doing all of the preventative steps at home, and it's the same thing with skin.
[00:24:23] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[00:24:23] Speaker: Um, you can't just expect to, you know, go get your treatments and then not do any of the work at home.
Yeah. It's not gonna fare well.
[00:24:30] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[00:24:31] Speaker: we went over, yeah, things to kind of be aware of before your treatment, after your treatment, um, things that you can add in the office. I think it's always worth asking your provider what kind of boosters that they might offer and if they think that one would be beneficial for you if you are looking to, again, get kind of the most out of your treatment, and if, especially if you're targeting specific concerns.
Um, went over sunscreen. If the biggest takeaway you get from today is don't tan before your procedure- Yeah ... and get off your retinoid a week before.
[00:25:00] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[00:25:01] Speaker: Um, if you guys have any, uh, questions, comments, feel free to share them. But until next time, Skin Side
[00:25:08] Speaker 2: out. Out.