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Saturday Brunch Unfiltered with Miracle OP is where chaos meets conversation! Miracle dives headfirst into the latest entertainment buzz, pop culture drama, and whatever’s trending—raw, unfiltered, and completely unscripted. No sugarcoating, no holding back—just hot takes, reckless opinions, and the kind of wild discussions that keep you coming back for more. If it’s happening, Miracle’s breaking it down his way—real, raw, and unfiltered.
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, if you're listening on the radio, if you're listening on your TV, if you're listening on your iPod, who still has an iPod by the way. I do. Don't judge. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, it's your host with the most who's always going to brag about having the best French toast. Yes, it is the best of Two Richie. But we're going to get to that. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Saturday Brunch with me, Miracle OP, and NLC girl sitting to my left. And ladies and gentlemen, I am proud to say and I've dreamed of moments like this, but I feel like I'm going to go to a McMillance. I used to pray for times like this or rhyme like this. So I had to grind like that to shine like this in a matter of time I spent on some locked up [ __ ] Ladies and gentlemen, we have the the first ambassador. Let me say that again. the first ambassador of Red Bull Sports. Ladies and gentlemen, the first ambassador, Nigerian ambassador is singing with us in Saturday brunch today. My guy, my brother, Mr. Man introduction. Let's go. Congratulations, my boy. Thanks, man. Congratulations, my boy. Dearly deserved. Long time coming. And we have my guy with the swiftest feet, with the slickest waist, and with the smoothest mouth, too. Yeah, we all saw him on reality TV. If you don't know who I'm talking about, I'm talking about one of the best dancers to do it in Lego State right now because that's where he's based. Mr. Hello. And now ladies and attendants, introducing weighing a whopping 125 lbs on the pink corner. She has a wig slick. She calls herself a lady. Ladies and gentlemen, from the She calls herself a lady. Don't interrupt my ladies and gentlemen from a town hall different. The host with the most, not that much, but you are so extra. Well, you know you love that intro. No one has ever given you an intro like that. Ever. You don't even give your your guest that intro. I've watched your podcast. Pipe down. I've watched your podcast. I like your co-host better. We can get her. Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Saturday Brunch. Everybody, how we feeling? How's your day going? Good. Yeah, good. Perfect. Oh, Swad came in here a a lot nervous. I was very very Yes, you were very asking me like, "Oh, what you going to ask?" Miracle is you that's asking the question, "Nigga, why you scared? Why you scared, boy?" Ain't no way cuz you know what I'm going to say. What's wrong? You know what I'm going to say? You know I'm going to I'm going to spill all that tea. Clock that tea. There's no tea to clock. Clock that tea. Don't deal with me. I didn't ask you to do with me. This is my show, not your show. Just talking. Okay. All right. That's what you going. There's a little bit of tension here though. Cut her frame. You do. What? Yeah, I said what I said. Oh, that's another podcast. We need to get them on on here. We need to get them on here. But how do you feel those? Let's start with Theosary since you said I said what I said. Look at me. I'm Did they inspire you to start your own podcast? No, they didn't. Really? Yeah. But they were like one of the if not the biggest podcast right now in Nigeria. Yeah, because they hosted a show in is it Toronto or where? Yeah, they do. My brother loves them. I mean they are good but like they didn't expire. So what inspired you to start your podcast? So like my friend and I we've known ourselves since just one. Oh wow. That's long. Yeah. That's like more than 15 years of friendship. Over a decade. Yeah. And we both work in the music industry cuz like every now and then we just gossip about things in the music industry. And I was just like one day you know what we can actually start a podcast over gossiping. So you're a gossiper. I gossip with my full chest. That's what the podcast is about. I just said I gossip. So she's a gossiper. So you know um I mean a sprinkle of gossip but like we just see our opinions. Yeah. Do you get and you know and you know the thing with opinions is that a lot of times when you say your stand on on things people don't necessarily agree with it which is fine. Yeah it is. Yeah. So the idea of the podcast is oh we have an opinion and we want people to know our stand on certain issues and it's okay if you don't [ __ ] with us we don't [ __ ] with you too okay first of all that's that makes a lot of sense no it's not it does and I think you know being friends once since 2 and people have this rumor about how female friendship don't last it's full of envy it's full of gossip it's full of [ __ ] at the end of the day because man never Facts. Do you get you think women are carrying people a problem this gender? Never. That's not true. But there are some people that have relationship that has to do with the other gender. It doesn't because at the end of the day, how many people how many friends actually like the same guy? It's rare. It's rare. Let's be sincerely they scatter long friendship. You know, you think their friendship long coming out here. Have you scattered any friendship? You That's my emo. Come on. He's a gamer. What do you mean? What do you expect? He's good with his fingers. You know, how do you even know this that he's good with his fingers? Has he tried on you? Cuz he's a gamer. Oh, okay. He has a pawn. Don't try to I'm I'm confident in my sexuality. I'm trying to do No. Nobody said you're not you're not confident. But if we're going to leave the finger, let's leave my finger. But if we're going to leave the finger talk, I feel like come on now. But that's not You guys have You guys have um a very beautiful thing. 15 years of friendship. No, that's long. But like you guys have not It's a rare thing. Do you think it has never been tested? Your your friendship has never been tested before. They've definitely before fought. We've had disagreements like at the end of the day two different people even with siblings you disagree with your siblings I I would agree on and she has like different views on them which is okay that that's that's the beauty of the friendship like we don't always have to agree I mean even twins they don't always agree on the same thing so like clash you see that friendship that friendship that ship just like any other ship can break. See what propels a ship? Waves. That's a wave that helping that ship can also cap it. You understand? I am telling you, bro, that if a fine man, I need to bring my pen. I wonder why you let go. Let me let me ask you. So, you need to ask me. Let me land. Let me land. I'm doing something. Okay. Stay your man. you rapper. So if a man Yeah. that is good-looking meets all her needs. Yeah. Because I mean you have to be valuable as there has to be some sense of value. Meets all her needs and coincidentally meets the needs of the friend and then casually let's say he approaches you first. You guys are chill and everything automatically is friends with your best friend and stuff like that. You see there's a there there's there's a saying that jealousy is a paralytic but love is a much more vicious motivator. Your friend will stab you. How old are you? I'm 25. Is it just like a ban thing? No. No. See, we first of all I said it downstairs. I don't consider bing people from Nigeria. They're like a whole country on their own. They No, they actually have their own laws everything. They only answer to their ob like him. He's not answering to Lagos government. I'm so serious. That's why I genuinely ask him whether they stamp his passport when he came to think he's going to commit a crime. He has to go back to the then I arrest him law of love for the French. Again, I'm more than impressed. Shout out to your friend out there. But I'm saying this coming from this not coming from someone that you guys talk about music. I didn't say anything. But you talked about friendship and scattering friendship. This is my area of expertise. You understand? I'm not a I consider myself veteran. I'm not diligent in this field. I'm telling you that the right man comes. It's over. But why do you think I want to ask a question with me? You think you're a fine man? It It's relative. No. Do you think you're a fine man? Yes, I think I'm a fine man. You do? I think you're a good-looking guy. I didn't ask you. So, so first of all, yeah, there's I'm not going to I'm not going to go with the cliche in the eye of the See, yeah. Everybody has what they're looking for in life. Some people like short kings, some people like six. You understand? One of the things you're saying you're not confident in yourself. If you ask me, if you ask me about a fine woman, absolutely. I don't have your lady. Okay. I don't fine woman to to some average suburban guy in not to you. I am 100% fine in your opinion. I mean she smoking monkey that looks at me and that doesn't tell you like if you ring out your mirror now. Sorry. Are you a beautiful lady? Yeah, I am. Exactly. But do you think that there's a guy that thinks you're not beautiful? There's no guy that thinks I'm not beautiful. You know what to do. Let's wait. We need to start doing this. What are we saying? Hold on. Hold on. We are not outside on the street. So you can't tell. Everybody cannot lie. No. Everybody cannot like the same thing. Like you don't like me. That's that's not the same thing. Um am I a beautiful woman? Absolutely. In your opinion. Do you like me? I don't care. No. No. No, I don't think I think you're beautiful. I think you're gorgeous. You might be I think every other woman is beautiful. I'm biased, but I I'm saying that something because I mean what she think doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. For instance, for instance, there's something there's this thing there's this thing I do. Yeah. In relationships. Yeah. I'm talking to my girl. I'm like, yeah, you're you're the most beautiful girl I've ever seen in my life. You understand? It's romantic. But statistically, you see the most beautiful girl I've ever seen. Who cares about statistics? He don't sound like they talking about on average sound like you think that every girl you are so attraction is different from beautiful am I beautiful yes does every guy find me attractive maybe no but she is doesn't take but am I am I beautiful in the eyes of the beholder remember this beauty is in the eye of the beholder there's nobody beholding me right now that will not see the beauty Look at my skin. Can you see my skin? My teeth. Look at my face. You can't beat that. This is why this is why they say people are proud. Well, I'm proud too. But what I'm saying I'm backing you with my foot back. I'm doing backing today. But hold on. Hold up. I have to back up back. You have to back up. Back up. I can see you're shaking. You have to back up. I have to back up. Exactly. But hold on to the back for back say that oh it's men that make women have issues but there are other issues in life apart from a man. Do you understand? You're not even talking about them going into business and you know trying to share money and is a problem. So it doesn't have to be a man literally. Let's not forget again again. So like it all boils down to paradigm. Okay. Perspective. That's what I'm saying. Um do do you do I consider myself a fine man? That's question you asked me. Yes. Now you then you went on to ask do I think everyone sees me as a fine man? I said no. The same thing you said the fact that you see yourself as beautiful. Yeah. It's beautiful. First of all it's good self-awareness. Okay. Positivity all that. I'm all for that. Yeah. But then statistically if you share if you if we were to give a picture of you a very nice picture of you to 8 billion people on planet earth would you bet your kidney that everybody say yes you're beautiful. That's what I'm trying to say. Do you understand? You are beautiful. Exactly. By Nigerian standards. By societal standard, you're a very beautiful lady. True. By societal standard, you're a very beautiful standard. Good skin. I don't know now. I don't know that. I've never been toan. I don't know what their standards are. Okay. Like a Muslim person would see you Sharia Muslim person would see you and like say okay this is not what we are used to as beauty. Beauty. You go you go to you go to some places in Swuahili. You're not beautiful until you have a round metal thing on your lip. That's their standard. Everyone has standards of beauty. That's why I'm very true. I'm not here for no smoke. We are all beautiful. You see fine man. Fine. I mean, not everybody. Scrumptiously beautiful. Is not beautiful. No mist. Don't say that. Don't say that. No, but she said that. What are you going to do? So, as as your anah but you're already speaking up, Mr. Mr. Red Bull. Mr. First, the first number one, the guy, Mr. Him, him. I try my best. Come on. Mr. 66. Come on. Now you see the hat. So, you know what deal he already signed? My boy. How does it feel to be the first ambassador of Red Bull? Okay. So, of Nigeria. First ambassador of Red Bull in Nigeria, by the way. Okay. So, um, pretty much, um, it's been a dream of mine. I can't even lie. Ever since I got into competitive gaming and all that, it's been a very beautiful dream of mine. And um to see it coming into fruition is one thing. To now stand out as the first breaking a record in my country, it's another thing. Crazy. And then being able to be associated with this and like it's it's it's it's more than it's more than gratitude and more than rewards. Exactly. more than the rewards I could ever reap for the my four years of being a gaming content creator. You've been doing it for 4 years. For years. How did you start? It was in school. Not not not my best friend, but a friend of mine. I see what you did there. You seem like you're going to be the problem in the friendship. Friendship? Wow. Why would you say that? I mean, I can see the flags. I was, but that's a story for another day. Oh, you were. It's okay to lie. I didn't have to be there. You don't have to back her lie. So now she feels like she knows everything. I don't feel like I know anything cuz honestly I don't know everything everything. You feel like you know a lot. I do know a lot. Okay. Yeah. That's as you saying. Sorry. So um this guy I play games and then I try my best to be funny. I'm not I'm not basketball but I try my best and then I make some funny and everything and um he's like bro you should probably make content of this. And this is coming from a time where there was no such thing as gaming content creation. and everything. I'm like, what will I do? Like, you know how to tell stories. So, tell stories of your and everything. Okay. And I gave it a try. My very first video 10,000 views on crazy. I mean, I was not like first video. First video 10,000 views. And I was like, 10,000 views. Okay. And then I tried again. It wasn't really as then I kept what what did I do wrong? And then I found out the first video woman was inside. M that's how my niche gaming content creator that's how women are how important women are you know a lot of people don't do that when when they don't like replay their first video when it blows up and the next video doesn't blow then they don't really analyze what happened here like yeah that's where content strategy comes in we have analysts in the house no but big time no but me and him were actually having a conversation outside and I literally told him like bro coming from where you come from Benin. Shout out to Benin, by the way. Even though I don't think you guys are Nigerian. Yo, you see what I'm trying to say? What the [ __ ] was that? Don't let them hear that. No, no, no. I I love Ben. I'm very fascinated by their kingdom. But they answer to their own laws and they even they talk like they answer to their own laws and I love my problem is people. But go ahead. No, I don't. I don't. I [ __ ] with [ __ ] you up for real. Many people [ __ ] you up. You people need to add emotional intelligence to when you put up. You don't What does that mean? Please, that's a different I think if people get back to my story. I let him outside. Oh, hold on. Sorry. I just think that you people really don't really know how to pass a message. Like when you meet Ben, they talk shabili. Most of them shabili. It's not I don't have issue with a guy being proud. That is on you. But they don't know the right thing to say. They could just say something offensive and just feel like it's normal and they laugh to it. That's I'm sorry to cut you short. Yeah. So if you look at the demographic Yeah. of people that are in mind you some see the word demographic. Yeah. And then it it's a place where um a lot of our youth are introduced to a lot of vices from a tender age. I mean Lagos you can't you can't compare it to Lagos now. Lagos has been exposed since the Atlantic trade. M white people have been trooping. So there's a lot of civilization going on here. We are back there in the south. You get or do you want to go to Delta? Just go to S. So like so it's not there are people that are refined. There are people who are well spoken. There's there's a word you use poised. You understand? We have beanie boys with deep co finess and everything. Well, you can't just take the loud minority because they like snacks and [ __ ] like let me go back to my story though. Like coming from where he come came from. Why do you like cutting people short? No. No. Because I have to go back to my story now. You actually cut him short when he was saying his story. Oh, you were complaining about he was saying his story. You cut him short. I did. You did. You did ask him. Sorry about that. Yeah. So, go back. Let's go back to your Let's take it back. Let's take it back because you see you started using how you did your first video that went viral and like the second video did not and you had to go back to your what did you do wrong? So take it out. Okay. So what I what I did wrong was that I did not incorporate women into self important women. Shout out to all the women out there. See I don't know what happened up to you. I understand Solomon say anything about but I understand I understand Samson David. No that one but like Samson I understand that guy I understand him. So yeah, women actually and then um I I I took on a lot of strategies, you understand? I I really observed the majority of gamers out there um they are introverts and what is one thing that most introverts don't have good relationship like most of them don't know how to talk to women. They are socially awkward some of them and everything. So I guess talk to women. So you know how to talk to women. He has the confidence baby girl you have game. Uh no business content creates your previous question. Amen. What's some reason? Yes, that's the one. So So the contrary, I do not I do not believe in raise. What do you believe in? I believe in getting to know a woman on a on on a really emotional level. I'll do your friend first. And then when I'm your friend, I'm your friend, um, I'm getting to know you, okay? And then subliminally, I'll be asking you questions like very strategic questions to kind of understand your stance on different things. For instance, there's one thing I always say, no girl is the same. Okay? But every girl has stuff that makes them tick. Every girl has fantasies. So my job as as a friend that time, Yeah. And remember I said I had issues with my friend as a young woman. My my job as a friend Yeah. is to is to lock in to what those fantasies, those things that make you tick are and then morph myself. I mean, you have to see I will gradually morph myself into the man of that of those particular fantasies. I hope that makes sense. So, it's not like a I don't I don't do all that. You understand? And then it's not it doesn't really take a lot to please a woman. She just has to see value in you. First of all, I'm I'm very changeable. If you want a guy who's a gentleman, most definitely he's adjustable. Do you get like see I will morph. Like if you want a guy who's a gentleman, I will be that. Do you get? Um also little sub subtle things like love bombing then subtly stop love bombing cing creating mysteries drama sometime calculated drama sometime show you have value obviously you have a future ahead of you what I tell it's not see yes money too is still there don't get me wrong but there's something I'm a living testament to that. Even a gold digger has someone she'll be with for free. Come on now. I'm saying this. Come on now. Say that again. So like say that again my brother deeper than it's a lot deeper than but I don't want to go into we're here for some professional [ __ ] Everybody knows that. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah I appealed to my audience back to the story. I appealed to my audience um that are not really they're not really able to experience women on that kind of level. I have a lot of romantic stuff in it a lot of stuff and everything into gaming comedic stuff also and then I had a fan base from a fan base into a mini community from mini community into a good Did you have like the discord chat and everything? The whole package. Yeah, the whole package. Trying to get into that stuff now, bro. Make a lot of sense. No, no. Like I I like I going back to my story, I was just trying to say like I felt like coming from the culture we come from, like I told him the gaming industry has been there since like 2014, bro. The gaming the gaming places has been there. Then Asia now took it to a whole different level with the Koreans, with um League of Legends, all that type of stuff. They they really started that streaming. That's when like the tournaments really started and everything cuz my I was telling him my roommate was a big gamer as well. League of Legends, all the Koreans, all the Chinese people were always doing that type of stuff. So he's been there. So it's very beautiful and and it's and it's nice to see Nigeria now accept that true as a form of this is a job. This is a platform whereby we can expiate. We can touch the audience. We can bring them attract them into different things. We can also invest into this. And I was like bro this beanie you're wearing that symbols of [ __ ] vindication of bro take me seriously. Yeah. I'm I'm like I'm a gamer, but bro, I'm not like I wake up Saturday morning just playing games with my friends. No, no, no. Like this is my job. I'm making money off this [ __ ] I have a platform. I have a whole fan base. I have people that are going to back me on this. I've I've monetized this. So, you need to take me ser this is my company basically. I'm a company. Take me seriously. So I was just telling him, bro, big up to yourself because from where you come from, there are a lot of pioneers from Remma to Shali Poppin and his crew. Bro, you're you're the first doing things. Even Remma was not the first. Sh Poy was not the first, bro. You're the first. All right. You're the first. That's that's that's gaming thing. I find it very fascinating though. I mean, I I've just never really understood the idea of gaming as a profession. You didn't play games any younger? No. I don't know how many game on my phone every I don't I don't have every young boy that was their dream either to make money from gaming or playing football. I've never had I don't have game on my phone. Sometimes it's never games. I don't play game all the time. I was like I'm always like I don't know why I don't have this thing on my phone. It doesn't just excites me. I candy crush. No. Wow. Well, I mean like different different strokes for different that's a red flag, right? But honestly, I think on this show we have we have we have your name. Honestly, I never even knew that you're very outspoken like this. Your full name till we came on this podcast. Who's your full name? Government Victor say it like a ban boy. It's like a great Victor. But yeah, but I think the podcast today was was about the gaming stuff because anytime we bring people on the show, we always talk about things they do and what they are known for, right? I think that's why we've been talking about this whole game because a lot of people out there that want to even start this streaming thing. We're talking about a lot of streamers we have, you know, doing some weird things, you know, and stuff like that. But one of the thing we want to talk about too is because we have Hello Swagger, you know, which is an ex BB Niger person. What did I do again? We just want to talk about BB Niger cuz I even have a lot of questions, you know. I've seen this new ones too. see how they are fighting everything and all because I think if I actually get selected for BA Niger I would have gone with no strategy and just say I want to be myself but it looks like everybody has you have to wear a mask anybody it's not just big brother I think it's if yourself they'll kick you out do you have to be do you really have to wear a mask I don't agree yeah that's why I'm asking him I know that I to be honest did you have like a strategy when you Mhm. See, when you get there, you'll be like, "Ah, I have strategy." Trust me, 2, 3 weeks, you forget. See, you first of all, first of all, it's a very crazy scenario when you're inside a house. That thing is a battle. Yeah. Every week is different to even to even relate it to to to gaming to relate it to gaming because as a gamer, I ask you this downstairs, you always think you always think two steps ahead of your strategy. and ask you cuz your favorite um game by the way that made you famous is actually Mortal Kombat if people don't know Mortal Kombat Call of Duty Call of Duty that way that type of vibe. So, especially on TikTok, you guys should check him out on Tik Tok. But like I always said, gamers always try, especially the best, they always think two steps ahead. Mortal Kombat, FIFA, Call of Duty, they always think two step ahead. You have to be strategic. And that is how Big Brother is. Every week is different, right? Every week can be cuz every one person goes. So if somebody was in your person, you need to try and get somebody to get somebody out. Okay. So the next question I want to ask about Big Brother now is that because a lot of times I was talking to I was talking to someone how you know people come out from Big Brother is a lot of expectation, right? And one thing that doesn't really sit well with me is the fact that you stay in a house for how many months you're not going outside. It's just you're just with these same people. And you're talking about how people fall in love and they come outside and it's like they start calling each other out. It's like you know where was the love. Does that mean that in the house there's no genuine love? Because we have good success story like Bam Bam Teddy like even is it Gdon and Cafe too they still together. Yeah. You said that out of harmony. Do you understand? So does that mean that people that are in this house just for people that are trying to get in? That does not mean that you shouldn't get your hopes high when a guy is trying to tell I like you or stuff like that. Love is love is love is relative though like love about love is love is relative. So first off in the house yeah you are stuck with different people different personalities right so you have to find your person in the house if that works for you don't have to it's not necessary but it's like we are in it's let's just put as a lab project where the like the AC is on like 24/7 you don't have a phone there's no form of entertainment just me and you me and you you know you are my entertainment I'm your entertainment so you find the person that's more entertaining to you right to be your particular person and if you're not a or whatn not please sorry you will not go and be with another a do you get you'll just be your own um what do they call it taste and like so basically you find a person in the house you be with that person for like the whole period you're in the house no naturally when you're outside the house and you're toasting a girl there's distance somewhat when you're in the house you're seeing this person every day so it's easy to like your face hug cuddle dance in the party etc so the the the love is quite deep. But coming out now, you know, there's there's a lot of not even about options. There's a lot of like noise in your ear. First of all, you've been locked in the house for like the longest time. There's nobody to talk to. They've not seen your people. They've not told you what transpired on the screen that you did not see. You know, there are parts that you don't come out. So when you come out, be like, "Ah, this person said this about you at some point in time. Yeah, that's not your person. This person does not love you. Just, you know, use your head." Blah blah blah blah. That's how it happened. Can I ask you a question though? So like I I don't know what like but is there like a social intelligence valuation metric required before you before I enter the house? That's very important because like I see some people and I'm just like how did you make it to the house? People need to realize something about the big brother house. The big brother house is not the real life. Yeah. First it's as simple as that. Is a group of people that have been taken away from the real world and put to a place whereby it's not real. It's a simulation. Basically, they put you into a space whereby the AC is always on. Like he said, you're going to look for someone to call. You're a man, especially if your your hormones are going to go as a woman, as a man. Trust me, when it's cold, when you build up emotion for an individual and there's nobody around, your emotions are going to be 10 times heightened. Mhm. Both anger, both love, both crying, both pain, both everything. It's going to be 10 times heightened. When you come out of the big brother house, you have entered back into the reality. Reality. Yeah. Yeah. So, so that relationship you may have had in the house, when you come out, the level is not that high because you are not even communicating with that girl anymore. She's not sleeping with you. Both of you just moving together. That's the only way. Both of you moving together and make you come from the house. But but then again, it's like that's the thing. If the love was actually genuine inside the house, I feel like there's going to be because of circumstance. So, a lot of factor because of circumstances. There's a lot of me I did not fall in love. What is love? That boy was in love. Maybe not. No, I didn't have sex in that house. He was not one of that. You watched the back of the school back and it is under the press. I don't understand. He he had he had he had a ship in the house but but he fell outside of that. There's no you not go to that. They impress you. I marry you as well. People intentionally enter because of strategy. But yeah, let's talk about I think it's a lazy talk about the expectation. I think it's actually a lazy thing. It's like it means that you don't even have a personality of your own. Another thing about strategy is a strategy. Sometimes you can be yourself. If you're yourself and you're very like as a normal person, you're very interesting like mana now going to the house. I'm sure that he might put on a mask but naturally he's interesting from social media. So quick question. How do you know that this person isn't a mask? That's what I'm saying. Like me being in what you have done boring in life. That's boring though. Do you get boring? Because he has been having great conversations. Exactly. I thought you were a boring person. You're not an introvert. Maybe this is a mask. Are you an introvert? Even though this is a mask more again, I not say it's a mask. I don't say it's not a mask. between both of you saying that you're an introvert. I'm saying that me she gives but she introverted anywhere close to being an introvert but she gives more introvert but what I'm asking what I'm asking you is that four times five times what I'm what I'm presenting is a that's what I'm saying even though it's not a max or people just you so so what I'm saying I'm saying is that if you're going to are you going to BBN with the mindset of like okay cashing cruise are you going to get to win I'm saying that like first of all let's look at the password let me give you let me let me let emotional this thing blackmail to win he used the emotions of Niger the plan okay he saw from the first from the first day like theuthentic money that was there so that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying I think it might work for you it might work for you but it might not work because like somebody want for just being married. Okay. Okay. Okay. Let me let me ask you. Yes. Yes. Multi choice wanted them to win. They kept asking every house when they left the houses, did you know these people were married? Guess the mar copy that were in the house. Bro, they they pushed that narrative. What did they do? Because that season are you saying they don't reward? No. The season was that bad that they had to narrative. There was no Kush for that season. Remember something I remember something from the last from a married couple. I mean like exactly that's the only big I really enjoy. What the hell? Lor was there. Shout out to Licorose cuz she's my girl. I really enjoy that season. Yes, that was my best. The best season big brother. Destiny was one of I mean I love wasn't locked down and none other than all I was trying to Allar wasn't good I love that was good the season we had and we had bro every week was the highlight. It was good every week because I I was good. With Mercy and Tata was really good. That's when the toxify fan bases start building up. With Cece wasn't Yeah, that was No, that's not Pepp. Tasha and Tobi. Um, what's the name of that? Toby Mary's season was um with Bisa. I know, but what's the name? That was Miracle season. Yeah, Miracle Miracle. I think Shout out to Miracle My name. But the question I wanted to ask you is now for example now cuz there can be a world whereby you may want to enter Big Brother just to boost your platform cuz that's what some people do. Really really If you have a platform, you should have a plan. Nico had a platform before she because you know what she has always been doing. That's what I'm trying to say. If you're a successful content creator and you go to No, I ask you this question. The first question is number one. Do you feel like since like I said you're the first, do you feel like you are a pioneer now when it comes to the the the the gaming industry in Africa and Nigeria as a whole? And what will be your strategy going into the house if you have if you have if you were going to house cuz you have a platform. Okay. So, so the thing is yeah um I've had a lot of opportunities and when I mean a lot I mean a lot because I understand the technical knowhow before I got into content creation. Yeah. I was prepared. Okay. I finished my first degree accounting and I'm like okay I want to be an influencer. I didn't know what but I just said I wanted to be an influencer but I wanted to be grounded. I I really wanted to understand not only the educational aspect of it but also the psychological aspects the social aspects of it. So I went and read media and communications again whilst I was in school that's when I found out about gaming content creation and everything. So I I did that and I majored in PR. Okay. So, and when I majored in PR, I did my thesis in calculated controversy. I see I came out of university. I knew what I wanted to do and I knew how to do it. That sounded so complicated. Calculated controversy like business. Remember, remember when I said that like you did business accounting? Um, no. I did accounting my first degree. Accounting business accounting, there's business law, business accounting, business finance. So, um I I went into I went into the um the space the online space already prepared. I had plans already. Yeah. And I knew that one of the major ways I would get out there and get out there fast was via controversy. You remember when I was downstairs, I said something about like, wait, hm, what do I do? What do I do? Jesus Christ. Let's talk about instantly. Yeah. So, what I'm saying is, yeah, I understand the game to a reasonable extent. The content creation game. I understand the highlights, the goods, and I understand the bad. And I feel like going into the Big Brother Niger space, it will do more harm to me than good. Firstly, um I would have to be someone that I'm not. You see this persona, if I enter that house, it's going to be something else. I promise you. What do you mean? I'm okay. Let's say my strategy would probably be Yeah. And I try to be this kind of laidback. Laidback. I try to I try to win the the male demographic. And what's the best way to BBM win? nice guy being a womanizer like see there's a way um the the um social demographic like you would appeal to so many so many guys and then on the flip side to females yeah I'm not sure that will win that that will not win the male that win the female actually see guys guys always look look at follow let's forget morals yeah 90% Let's watch 90% of people watching. Yes. I said that you I was going to the flip side. Yeah. But don't you go and Victor the first week. Relax. I promise you. I mean relax now. Relax. Relax. So now there's there's there's a difference between like just going there and be following any woman and like being a calculated womanizer. Yeah. First of all, big brother themselves, they would find a way to keep me in because I will create so much traffic for them. Yeah. Have you have you seen a a a situation where somebody is calculatively and playing with psych on a psychological level playing with the minds and the emotions of so many girls? Yeah. Causing so much chaos and you are the I'm going there with I'm not going to so I'm going to win. What concern me with first of all on the on the guy spect I'll be look at look at apart from remove morals look at men and their role models. Forget morals. Look at you know where you watch Andrew um and is it Andrew Tate? And that's Andrew Tates. Yeah. Look at how a lot of guys first of all don't understand that. That's a true question. I I don't I don't like I'm not forget first of all say so basically you're going to enter the big brother house like a gamer. So already forget that's what I'm saying. You have to always keep in your mind that watching you uh you have to and then on the flip side for the you have to keep it in your mind or you have to just remove from your mind and if you move for your mind if you mind that's the mind you get absorbed your mind like you you keep over calculating your your mood. Ah, that's the point of the game. You have to be I feel like I feel like there's a Should I Should I bust your head over calculative and should I bust your head? How do you play games? You said the person the person the person I've respected the person I've respected the big brother house whereby me because I was in the house with him I was like bro this guy and I wish I targeted him from the first week. No was was Kanaga. Kaga was a gamer. Yeah, he was a silent player. No, he was not even silent. There was after after he injured his hand and came back, he stopped being silent. That guy showed his game. But I I wasn't just focused on him. Greg, for instance, now for instance, you watch Miracles. Yes. Now watch. He was focused on Y Greg because of um what's that angle that focus? No, she was just she was just she was just I knew that I knew that played Y was the strongest that girl played a fantastic was playing her game. I let her play her game but my focus was Nigerian boy and Y was the strongest Nigerian boy. He was attracted when they say somewhat confident when they say women dominated fieldy. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I keep asking them is there a way whereby they can bring all of one house cuz why didn't you go for the title when they brought everybody in? Why didn't you go for all Nigeria? Yeah. I feel like they just used you guys to make that um Big Brother and Zanzi. Please, please be honest. Was was our season interesting? No. Yes, it was. It was interesting. That's why I said that they used Nigerian watching Nigerian they used the Nigerian contestant to make it popular because like before then when it has been happening and I never knew about it but they hardly used to show it like on but they all used the same house. Yeah. Funny enough that's South African house they used to do big weather in Nigeria as well. Okay. So I couldn't even talk about outside the house because a lot of times people come outside the house and there's a lot of expectation on them you know. You see we we can you didn't answer my question. What was the question? Do you think that you are a pioneer right now when it comes to the gaming platform? I mean like do you accept that role? I try my best and yes I accept that role full I'm constantly trying it's a responsibility. I'm constantly trying my best. Um first of all I I was the first um Call of Duty mobile gamer to win a Nigerian award. First to win an African award by Tik Tok itself. First Red Bull athlete. So I'm trying my best to not only pave a way but also um give people someone to look up to. Yeah. So that's why I said it to do that big brother thing will do more bad. So who did you look up to when you started or who were you looking up to like who inspired you to say you were I was looking up somewhere wasn't a gamer who in the esports no in the esports space who I look up to in the sport. Like who were you like watching? Ninja down. But like but um from my content creation strategy. Yeah. It was very dark man. I would like see say what you want about that man but he's a smart guy. I like him. I don't have any issue with him. I do like him. This man knew how to harness hate and he does it. So he knows how to harness. But that's what sells hate. Exactly. Like bros than love. I I he looked at the percentage. Yeah. Of people, the most hated people. Yeah. And these people are the most influencer influential. Who is more influential than the very black man in Nigeria? Nobody. Bro, who's more Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift is one of the most white. Charles White. She's one of the most hated hated Muslim person in the US artist in the US. Andrew Tate. I don't know. [ __ ] That's what you guys arrested him recently. Arrested I don't like talking about because I don't like that guy. I don't anyone anybody I hate that guy. I listen to somebody. I don't like him. Like I listen to what he says and it doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. It's like he hates women like that. Uh you know he's trolling just how to get social media get social media the fact that he he understands the game he she understands we're getting to an important topic and you like people understanding so how do you now expl Especially in our community, how do you now like make people understand that gaming is not just gaming? Gaming is like, well, you can actually be profitable of gaming is a lifestyle. Yeah. Facts. No, but how like I mean like a lot of parents are telling their kids don't game when they can actually make money from gaming. They do it at the wrong time. You see, let's be sincere. No, but that's why that's why I asked him pioneer. So, how do you make your book? You're playing game. No, no, no. That's why I asked him as a he accepted he's a pioneer. So, how can he now convince people that gave me this? Okay. So, so for instance, yeah, as much as I'd love to be on your side, I'm on her side. Thank you. Reason B. Reason being, let's be honest now. Man, see I to give people. Yeah, we are. Thank you. So, um, growing up, yeah, I was a bookworm. It was not installed or should I not be I know the software. It was not instilled into me h of my own free will. My dad he was really into academics and everything. So he wanted me ah every time read your book bro at four you tell me read all this newspaper and summarize my dad like you get four years Sunday read newspaper read but then he would he would pacify that attitude with he because he knows I love playing games okay if you come first in your class first second okay I'm getting you this game my first console at the age of four game boy advance he bought it for me and everything. So I was reading my books and everything but now understand. Yeah. Do you know I am not the best CD mobile player in Nigeria but I'm the best gamer. Do you understand? Because because of education that's where that's where what she says come in. I I went to school. I understand first of all I read accounting. I understand finance. Yes. Okay. Every money I made I reinvested everything back into my like I not well I think the fact that I'm an introvert also helps. Not too much but you get I invested everything back into my craft into my content creation. Also putting into the fact that I went and I my my project was on calculated controversy like I studied that [ __ ] bro. I I understand how I know how you think. I know how you think I think on a on a psychological and social level. Do you get? So understanding my audience. So putting all this into consideration they are content creators that are better than me. They contamers that are more skilled than me, but they don't understand the market. That's where education comes in. That's where education comes in. So you're trying to say what makes But the difference between a gamer and a player is the actual investment within your audience or what's in your head. What's in your head? What's in your head? Do you get do you get like it's not people say knowledge is power. It's not knowledge. Gamers are monetization of knowledge. Sorry. Would you say the difference between a player that just plays and a gamer is monetization? No. No gamers. There are a lot of things. There's presence. There's presence. Your social media presence. There's um there's charisma. Charisma is another thing. And then there's branding because I like dread. I want to be I want to be able to There's a tall guy that has dreading easily. Branding is first bro you know about community I branded myself dragon of first name that comes to your head manga who is the of first name that comes to your head manga. So yeah, where the man come from, bro? Where's Ma? Yeah. How did you get that name? Do you guys want to go that way? Yes. Philippines like that's why we're here like bring the men. Bring the men. That's why we're here. Like tiger. Okay. So I'll try my best to summarize that story. Okay. So I dated this girl that was um that she was I'm not call the denomination. was a Christian. Yeah. And I'm such a I'm a Christian. Yeah. But I read the Bible so much that cover to cover Genesis to Revelation is it's a prerequisite in my household. My mom is a fanatic for Christ. So I read the Bible cover to cover. So I understand the Bible. I won't say understand but I I'm knowledgeable about it. Yeah. So I remember and I can argue I can argue. So I remember that um she wanted me to come to church with her. I'm like I don't really do a lot of like if you love me come to church. I'm like, okay. So, she just say normal church. This girl went and she said, "Bible study." And Bible study is an interactive session. And I'm like, "Woman, I'm not sure I'll be able to control myself because I have a I'm a very opinionated person." You are. So, I came I attended judge ed program and then they started doing their um it was on free will. It was on free will and everything. And um I tried my best. I tried my best to keep myself keep my mouth shut everything. Then um he said some things that I did not agree with. So he was ah welcome this newcomer. We are welcome in the name of the Lord all that and everything. I kept my mouth shut. My body was scratching me but I kept my mouth shut because he was saying a lot of things that that did not apply to my own doctrine of how I see Christianity till he now went and asked me do you have any question? My girlfriend was she was pinching me like this. I said ah do you have any question? I stand up. I say, "Okay, I enjoyed the sermon, but I don't understand so so and so and so and so because like I feel like there's no not much free will in Christendom and everything." She like, "Why why do you say that?" I'm like, "Okay, if there's free will, um, Esau and Jacob while they were in the womb of Rebecca, they were fighting and Rebecca asked God, why are they fighting?" And um, he said that and God said the senior will serve the junior. Mhm. like straight off the bat like they've not been born but like their lives have already been or should we go to Pharaoh he already let them go but God harden his heart so he can pursue them you understand like that does not really show free will or should we talk about God was like okay I'm not done I'm not because I started my okay or should we talk about Jonah he didn't want to go to preach to the people of Nineveh but God used way to swallow him and dropped him at the sh of Nineveh you must preach to these people that Before you flew before you know it was back and forth, back and forth, back and because me I this way I understand God and everything there way he understands God before you know he got cornered and there are some people that don't know how to handle arguments. He got emotional and then he now started saying that and the person that they beware of this false prophet and he called me something in the Bible there's a name they call Satan the old the old red dragon that come and deceive. Yes. So I'm so I was not going home. I was reading this book theian adaptation of the ballad of Gilgamesh and there dragon was manga and then I'm from Edo the south so the dragon of the south is kala manger so kala I like that name that's guy just said to the public that it's crazy I got my name off your your government name is greatness and then your mandra and then you adapt Um what do you call it? Manga. Mangali like Bruce Lee Lee come from how do you balance that? So manga just means dragon. It doesn't mean dragon and um dragon of the south ma. So like was from I don't know. So I think what we need to I think one thing I want us to know because sometimes when people go on podcast who talk talk talk and we have younger people that cannot really understand they just take the one that appeal to them and they run through it. So, we're not saying being a streamer or being a gamer is bad, but I think what will make you stand out is when you you you add it up with education. Yeah. Cuz you have so many cases of people that they never got education and all that and they're not really able to stand very well because at the end of the day when we doing this, you're doing this to make money and if you're not, you don't have a certain level of education. How do you work with brand? How do you communicate? How do you read contract? contract. That's why management's mind think about PA is one of the most successful in Nigeria. But is it said do we think that he's do you think look at it? I don't think I I'm not with the mind. Yeah. Tell you what education will do. Look at Habasi. She just signed a deal with Gino. Not even Gino. This hair lush. Lush. Yeah, I think that. But you can see the reason why she's standing out is because she has education. So she knows what is going on. Not just education. She understands branding. Yeah. I think branding too. But how do you understand branding if you've never ever been in I said not just education. I mean they work. She knows how to sell herself hand in hand. Well, she she because like I you know I was watching one of her videos and while they were talking introducing her they said oh um producer um actress she so she has gone beyond just chef to different aspects of her but are you not saying that that's why you're saying how education is important right because it gives you a voice it gives you a yeah I agree with you I said I said that not just education there's a lot of people wait there's a lot of people that will see pella and think because pella is I don't know If you went to school, I don't really care. It doesn't sound like the word education should not be limited. But I want people to know that if you give if you're given a chance to be educated, I feel like education should not be limited to add to any other digital skill you want to acquire. I don't think education education should be accounting. Yeah. You are you are not a content creator. Yeah. And you have you have this much engagement. You're blowing up. Yeah. Brands will obviously reach out to you. Companies will reach out to you. Yeah. And these people there's a saying that if you are too sweet they will lick you like nobody everyone wants to maximize it's not everybody that that but then like they will talk to you. Yeah, you you sound like a very learned person. They they will talk to you. They look the words. You are talking in a literate, compenduous and maleifous manner. They know that this person again you you have this audience and everything. They bring a contract that now using big big words for you. Even said they can cut corners with your management. They say let us l this this word the world is a wicked place. Why do you like it? M. So they look at you say okay so what are you going to advertise for okay they will give you but they will give you 8020 speak English in perpetuity you go in it's not about the management no I'm saying that I'm saying that it's a it goes hand in hand that's what the education You have to have the property yourself cuz like when you brand yourself properly you the right people find you. But don't you think that if you have education that will be pricing you want to Well think that if you have education you ask the right questions. Don't No no no no. I feel like education you're limiting education to school. I feel like education to school. Okay. Me I feel like education can also be experiences. You build up experiences from different places. Your street smart can be education. Your your your your your wisdom from your parents can be education. I feel like what makes every successful person is a successful team. Every person what's behind them is a very very successful. If you look at Beyonce's team, Beyonce's team is a billion dollar team because they believe in the ladies vision. Sometimes see Beyonce is her name is bigger than her. That's why her team her team is not even doesn't even care about her. They care about the name. So she does stuff that she does not want. I'm talking about education because literally I have three younger brothers, right? And I also always used to tell them that no matter who you want to be or how you want to be, finish school first. Finish school. I mean school is not scam. Let's say let's say that I wanted to do this um content gaming content creation. Oh yeah. What if it not work out now? Okay. Let's say I put all my eggs in this gym basket. You dust your certificate and look for what to do with it. Push me accounting. You don't need to. I studied accounting but I never practice. I'm telling you honestly when I finished school I started interning in sound city. I became a producer. From producer I went into brand management. That was how I was making my money. Even here I'm a brand manager for TAC. So it's not about what you read but education has actually placed me in a certain place that when talking I can actually talk. I think with education you're able to be in certain rooms. Yes. And and then it's a more than more than enough backup plan. Education point. Exactly. Sorry. Sorry. What was even able to help me? Jesus. What what was able to help me um um fund my gaming content creation vision. Okay. So I I before I finished I did my icon. Yeah. And I got I got I got chhatted now. So I I was doing external auditing for companies getting money and then I was on a radio show. Yeah. In Benin. I was on I was on radio show. I was a weekend host on the show because you know controversy. So like and everything. So I was doing a lot of things. Yeah. But then carrying all my resources what you really like as the game they pay now I bust my be. But now God forbid. Okay. God forbid, let's say I do something that is big enough to get me cancelled. What would I fall back? Next question. What you read? I'm talking about cancel people. Do people really get cancelled in Nigeria? I look at they cancel that guy last month. I get it. But two two things can coexist. Um we would agree that is um he has his fan base but he's not the [ __ ] people could people would come out and probably say oh no manners and oh do things not people are not singing again it's crazy it's also crazy like even when I'm at a club and I hear nali song I don't know I don't know how but like I find myself I don't dance to it word Bro, like you're a natural hater. So, yeah. I hate to in my foot chest. Okay. In general, you're just a hater. Yeah. And that's good. Yeah. I love you. Yeah. So, I I let me tell you, I feel like honestly I feel like right now because of this conversation we're having, I feel like people shouldn't look at podcast as a bad thing because I mean some people don't know you're a chatter. You've been charted. You read accounting and all that. You just feel like it's gaming. You just feel like it's a game of luck. You just got one lock and that was it. Do you understand? That's what many people read and honestly I I can't emphasize enough on the fact that people need to actually go to school if you have opportunities. My mom is calling uni lag right now because she didn't have the opportunity because she was taking care of children. But no, she's even telling me and I'll do master said but me I've not done masters. You will not calm down. I have to do masters but we leave down for master Jesus cuz I'm still I still want to do it. That's an added plus, man. I want to do that. I want to do masters. I want to do it. So, I'm just as good as I really want to do it. I'm really going to do my masters. But that's by the way. But what I'm trying to say is that when you look at social media, people think that you don't need education to function on social media. That's what a lot of young people think. And it's very heartbreaking that you meet people. I met one is it I'm nos ma show the horn game I watch because my friend like watching that show so now I watch it nowadays I'll just go and look for the new episode I watch cracks me up so this girl asking this girl that you are finding love and someone is asking you oh where do you see yourself say I just want to be popular how do you want popular I don't care skit anything she want to be popular cuz they feel like there are people that are still popular on the internet on the digital space that they're not making money you just have numbers but people just feel like because if people know you you're making money and you don't need to acquire any skills or do anything to get popular and I think that's that is where you come in because you're coming from a place that yeah I enjoy I enjoy gaming know but trust me I went through all the process so I went to school I did all this and I'm still you know do you understand so people a lot of people need to know about that and I also want to talk to swag something I want to talk about that has really been on my mind is how do people manage the expectation because I feel like when you come out from big brother a lot of people yes the expectation is check and when people are asking hello give me money I don't get this guy this guy is stingy I just feel like money should be coming should be reaching out to you everything how do people manage that cuz I feel like that is really hard and tough how do people manage my expectations I really don't care about your expectations cuz it's not my business what you feel man it's your basically I came out of the house and yeah it's not my business what you feel you see a brand sign it's not my business regardless of the like you can't um please everybody that asks you for money. It's not even possible. If you send money to this person today, send to the next person send it to finish. Yeah. Obviously. So, how can you keep on sending to the to the whole world when you've not just better your own life? Like let me just I also feel like what I think is big brother should just make it a way that everybody gets something. But everybody gets something in the house. But let me know. We've given you a platform. We live in an age. We live in an age where value is increasingly. Why do you think why do you let me not call names but we have some content creators where like they they do questionable things but you see that attention brands will still want to work with their business not because of anything not because of but attention that is the greatest commodity before it used to be value it used to be watch yeah anymore ask for your screenshot of your analytics It takes Is it okay to say that some people are not even prepared for the life after? They're not. They're not. Some people can't handle it. Some people I don't think you can ever be prepared for it. It's a new space. You have to experience it. You have to experience like some people have extra guidance than others. So like there are some people that have for example now like Bella Bella had a a brother that was already in the industry industry. sister bed she can be a little bit guided. So all those type of wisdom that comes into that come outside of the house good morning just themselves as they enter the house they came out with just themselves like when you're in that house your team should be able to see what you can but how many people have how many people even have a team for they going to know people real now. You know, you know, you have to maximize big brother. The attention you got when you come out of the house, me, you also have to you also have to I I didn't go for the house for fame. What did you go? Let me let me and this is what I wanted to say. People need to realize something about big brother people. They love people that out there that that that cannot make ends meet. They're hungry. And let me let me let me let me put in perspective what I mean. They are going off small money from brand here, small you might see they're working for brands, but how much are those brands giving them? Giving them I I work in a space whereby we give money to these influencers that you see, they're not getting that much money unless you are a brand ambassador. That's when the major money comes in. All all these things that you see them post, oh, I'm working with Colgate, I'm not giving them that much money. They are splitting that money amongst them and other 10 micro influencers. Where did you go into the house for? I went into the house to get into the entertainment industry. I didn't care about now. It's still you entered the house because of this. I entered the house because my sport show had no access. No fet. Yes. I I literally get invited into brand brand events that are meeting marketing ambassadors. See the real money come in. See the real money comes in when you do what Nazare did. Create a platform whereby the brands can actually market on your platform. That's when you monetize your investment. Not just being an influencer taking pictures and hoping that those pictures end up with a brand that will give you a deal. No, you create platforms like what Nancy is doing. You create a show that brands like Indomie can invest into you. That is when you create gaming platforms whereby you created a content a platform whereby people can advertise your channel is doing what speed is doing you monetize the platform they have given you to make yourself a company. Yeah. But what I don't like about is the fact that people go into that place and come back and they still broke because they have a false sense of what it was coming out basically. That's just it. People just like you have to have a good manager or management that's just it going into the house now. So that's why when you come outside people rush you and oh I want to manage you and you don't know who is who is a good manager or who's a bad manager. So once they started for the first maybe like 5 months you seeing that your brand is just going down the pipeline and you start going down. Have you heard of so far is not see that's not a good example. Hold on. Wait got a that's not a strong she got a good band. Miranda she did she talk about her team hold on's own for for me to explain as a person her own personality she doesn't like social media so she's not even going to she's not going to she's never going to take no no she's not for the money she does not want that she doesn't want the brand new I'm sorry I disagree because there are people there There are people who don't really like what's the guy the athlete. Let me give you another example. Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Let me give you another example. Miracle is a pilot. Exactly. He chased what he wanted. She's chasing what she wants. Miracle does a 9 to5 does not do on the show. Exactly. What a lot of people after 30 years don't like him. I noticed her twice. When anybody enter that house, she told me to my face that I knew I was going to win. She's a damn liar. No, she didn't know. She's a damn liar. No gigs. Nobody ever getting gigs. Chicken change bro. Is she? Yes. Miranda. She was in the TVC. She was in the TVC. She's not brand ambassador of Lagos. Allah is more of an ambassador than her. He was on the board. She was never she was inc. She's not born. She does not like Do you know why do you know is is vexing me because for the past six six big brothers has only been the true people's champion they call one off emotional won because of big people and that babe had a cult following at the time and she didn't maximize what if she does not want We have following Let's talk about miracle. I don't want the plan following you. That's my emotion. of emotion twice because she went together don't really if they go to go wait the people that went twice now tell me what they have been using the platform for people that went twice yes mention CeCe you see her what CeCe doing what is she doing now she was it she's brand ambassador of storm bro that girl She get through getting views lifestyle for the second time she'll still have gotten the storm to the storm gig when she came was studying. She was even studying acting. She traveled. She Yes. What are you saying? Nobody forgot about her. I was studying ulcers was an opportunity for a lot of people to revitalize their platforms. Yes. True. CeCe enough time. Messi not messy. Messi was so for example. Now let's let's use Messi as an example. So she going a second time. What did the second time do for her? She won. The second time she won Messi. Sorry, bro. She made the final, but what did it do for her? She was already good to go before this. But Messi is a separate race. She went twice now. and she went twice. Look at that point. If you go for a show twice, that means you must like fame. You can you have to conceal never messy enjoys reality TV. Yes, she enjoys being a reality TV star. She's in brand is giving the chance to be on on Los on Lagos W because she enjoy my partner. She enjoys being in reality TV. Sir, she the enjoy. It's okay to say that you may go on show and come back and just feel like I don't want to be in this. want I just want to be or something. See, even to reverse it to gaming ninja, Ninja at a point stopped liking the the the the like the fame, the fortune, the guy, the guy to hide back sometime. Did you hide back sometime? No, Ninja, his idol, the person I used to look for in the game. So, sometimes I take breaks. But like, but Ninja is different though. Ninja was a psychological thing. Sh. No, but still, he took a break. He took a break. He took a break. He got overwhelmed. Yeah, bro. He got overwhelmed. There's some people that get overwhelmed from you. He didn't have attention. The attention that comes to people Niger is it overwhelming sometimes. It is over. It depends on the It's not overwhelming. It is feel pressure. First of all, if you are if you are if you if you have enough willpower to survive weeks, let's not win survive in a place without let me explain that's a difference. I'm going I'm going somewhere. You have you have you have that willpower to survive that long. Yeah. And you've not mentally broken down. Do you think a socially awkward person can last long in Big Brother? Like the person will break down, bro. You can adapt to that kind of environment where this is not your natural habitat. It's eat or be eaten. That's what people it's a battle royale. You understand? And then you want to you have been able to survive all that. It's now like maybe trolls or overwhelming praise or that not affect you. Some people are not used to but that's the 1% of it in the house now. Like when you when you come out it's crazy. That's where the journey starts. Yeah. Yeah. It's overwhelming. I said, see, let me tell you the first the first the thing about it is that you don't even have to be the first month for you to be successful. No, no, you don't understand. You don't have to see. I I promise you. Yeah. You see, Mr. I hear what you're saying. You see Mr. Be doing stuff like 100 days in a plane, you Wi-Fi, food, everything. You can bring one person. You can bring one person Wi-Fi, food, anything you want. But you must go that plane. It sounds like a no brainer. Some they bring introverts. go and be pay $2 million 100 days you it starts taking a toll on you I know what I'm sayingally see nobody has won that challenge bro mentally you see people bro I need this money I dep you enter prison I promise you day 55 your brains mother do you have access to your phone everything you can watch one person you can bring one person one person the Person come see do do you know do you know what prison does to people? Yeah, like solitary confinement. But we weren that thing that breaks you on level. I don't if you can you can Okay. Yes. Some states some states in America, some countries ban solitary confinement like locking up somebody in a space by themselves for a certain amount of time. They they've banned me with your head. Bro, you are like you are able to say that you are able to say that you came out like I don't care what people say and everything because you have strong willpower. You see me streaming thing now that I'm doing now I go live like I stream like maybe um some some people just hate me they just come live bro who believes me let's say I lose I lose online now and something like play we bought ambassador and the bigger you I look at it I see it I'm human being now touch me but bro I see that some people there and break down argue with them bro instantly you have power. I think that firstly is more than just a brand name. It's an identity. So, so like we looking at um not only people who are um in different sports, different areas of life as entertainment, we are looking at people who are risk takers. So that's what Red Bull is. in my area of expertise which is gaming. I'm a risk taker. I delved into this. I'm putting my best uh and it's bless they saw my work. They saw what I'm doing for the gaming community and everything and they stretched out a hand of association and I feel blessed. I feel blessed to be part of this journey of risk takers. Yes sir. Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it from the first ambassador of Red Bull Sports in Nigeria today, Mangali. Thank you so much at the swag for pulling up to the Saturday brunch studio today. And also, Madame over here is a hater. I like I like haters. Like I like people and and I like when people hate with their full chair. So yeah, guys, make sure you check out her podcast, A Town Hall Different. Make sure you like, make sure you subscribe. It's on Pop Central, isn't it? Um, is this on Pop Central? Not again. Not anymore. But make sure you check it out on YouTube, on on Spotify platform, all social media platforms. You know the vibe. Make sure you check out my guy on Tik Tok, on Instagram. What's the shout out yourself, my guy? Kamanja. That's it. Calam. Yeah, Kalamja. That's it. Calam. Oh, just search Mali. You see me. Mangali. Fact. You actually see him. That's the first thing heal. Mangali on Google, on Spotify, on Tik Tok, everywhere. Everywhere. Mangali the first. The number one. And I'm going to sign it out like this. He's the number one in Red Bull. The first. So, we're going to end it proper way. Red Bull gives you guys are not done. Don't forget to like, share, subscribe to the House Chronicles on all social media platform. you're on X, YouTube, um, Instagram, Tik Tok, and even Spotify, guys. We see you next episode. Bye, guys. Bye.