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In this episode of The Shrink Down, we dive into our nostalgia for the 90s and why 90s fashion and music are making such a big comeback. From chokers and baggy jeans to boy bands and grunge, we share the 90s trends we love—and the ones we don’t. We revisit the pop culture moments that shaped a generation and talk about why 90s music still holds up today, even for younger listeners. Along the way, we explore the psychological benefits of nostalgia, the impact of social media on how we remember the past, and how cultural cycles keep bringing the 90s back into the spotlight. Join us as we reflect on our favorite 90s memories, what’s trending again, and what the future of nostalgia might look like.
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What is The Shrink Down?
Four lifelong friends, all clinical psychologists, unpack the latest in current events, pop culture and celebrity news through the lens of psychology.
Vanessa (00:00.519)
Welcome back to the Shrink Down. Today we're gonna be talking about all things 90s. Are you guys excited? So we're gonna be talking about how trends seem to cycle. We'll talk about what was kind of the old trends when we were younger. What's in right now as far as the 90s, what we remember from the 90s. We spent most of our 90s in middle school and high school. The four of us, I would say. So yeah, so we'll be talking about the 90s.
Teri (00:08.101)
Yes!
Lauren (00:08.29)
Yeah.
Wilhelmina (00:08.498)
I am. I love the 90s.
Teri (00:24.367)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, beginning of college. Yeah. The end.
Wilhelmina (00:25.334)
Mm-hmm. Yep.
Lauren (00:25.357)
Mm-hmm.
Vanessa (00:29.159)
But before we get into today's topic, we are going to share our four-minute faves. Lauren, you want to start us off?
Lauren (00:36.566)
sure. I was just talking to my husband, was just talking to Tim before we came on and I was like, what am I doing as my favorite? And he's like, how do you guys all continue to have favorite things? I like, I don't know, like, I guess, you know, lives, right? Like, well, we are the demographic that consumes, right? Yes. So I'm sharing today and I sent these already to Wilhelmina because she asked, which is why it becomes my four minute favorite, my strength training gloves, my workout gloves.
Vanessa (00:48.288)
hahahahah
Teri (00:48.295)
We consume consumer culture.
Wilhelmina (00:52.426)
Go!
Vanessa (01:05.546)
you mentioned them last week or last time.
Lauren (01:06.414)
I did. So, yeah. So like since last year, actually last fall, I started in a really consistent way, strength training. And then in like January of this year, I realized that like I was wanting to go up in weights, but like the calluses and the grip strength were not happening for me. And so I just, know, a little bit of Googling and these are on Amazon. They are Adidas.
Vanessa (01:24.238)
Mm-hmm.
Wilhelmina (01:24.886)
Mm-hmm.
Lauren (01:34.208)
arrow ready and they were like $7.99. Really inexpensive and they have I've probably had them since January, I would bet. And they stand up and they took all the calluses away. They like they're just like so such a simple little thing that made such a huge difference for me. So I figured since sort of over the last year, we've kind of intermittently been talking about a lot of things related to like what the weighted vest and the strength training and the protein and all the things so
Wilhelmina (01:59.594)
Middle age, yes, yes.
Vanessa (02:00.231)
Yep. All the things.
Teri (02:03.153)
Hmm?
Lauren (02:03.288)
For anybody else that's on that same journey, these little gloves, and I'm sure you can get literally any brand. maybe the, yeah, like the favorite piece of it is they actually work. Like that's probably my favorite thing is that I wouldn't have thought something as simple as this would actually make a difference. And it's made a huge difference for me, both from a grip strength standpoint, there's no more calluses. I'm not like messing up my ring, all that kind of stuff. So well worth it if you're, you know.
Vanessa (02:09.926)
They don't have to be Adidas.
Teri (02:17.169)
That's good to know.
Vanessa (02:28.411)
Yeah.
Lauren (02:31.468)
If you think it feels silly, it does at first, but then it's like, you know, I feel like I'm like one of those guys at the gym, but like actually really, you know, like one of those bros. I'm not. No, no, no. Throwing your weights down. Yeah. Yeah. So no, I'm not that guy. But no, they actually really work. So yes, any brand, but like if you're, if you're even considering or thinking about it, I would, I would highly recommend.
Vanessa (02:38.791)
Or throwing your weights down when you're done with them.
Wilhelmina (02:41.334)
As long as you're not making the noises that go with it.
Teri (02:47.995)
Yeah, right.
Vanessa (02:49.831)
you
Lauren (03:01.1)
So yeah, that's that. Yeah. Yeah. God, that's a good idea. You know what? I'll have to send you. I bet you I just picked medium. Like, it doesn't have a little tag on the inside, actually. So but I'll look at my order. wait, here's a tag. no, I have a small. And I feel like I have a very normal size hand. Yeah. So yeah. And because there's no there cut off, like I feel like you
Wilhelmina (03:01.93)
Lauren, I was going to ask because you did send me the link. What size do you have? Because I was a little bit like, I don't know what size. And so was like, I'll just ask Lauren. I feel like.
Vanessa (03:02.279)
Good tip.
Wilhelmina (03:12.608)
Okay.
Wilhelmina (03:17.526)
Cause it wasn't one of those one size fits all. was like, okay, okay. That's what I was debating between. was like, okay.
Lauren (03:30.316)
would want probably the smaller size because you're not worried about length. It's more you want them to be tight. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Fit at the pads. So yeah. What about you, Wilhelmina?
Vanessa (03:35.281)
Check the pads, your hands.
Wilhelmina (03:43.936)
So mine is a little unusual. I actually called Owen beforehand and I was like, this is my idea. Is it weird? He's like, no, I love it. I'm like, okay. So I know that I had talked about the summer I turned pretty and watching that with Maddie and how that's been a highlight. Well, last week was the finale and we had so much fun watching the finale and then it has been so fun watching
Lauren (03:54.254)
You
Vanessa (03:54.862)
Yeah
Wilhelmina (04:14.278)
being a part of the Instagram world with all of the people talking about it, reacting to it. And so my favorite is actually weekly release shows. So any show that releases weekly. And it's interesting that we're talking about the 90s today because that's how it used to be. Exactly. So I was thinking about how big a deal the Friends finale was, right? Where it was...
Lauren (04:29.25)
Hmm. Yeah, that's how it used to be.
Teri (04:29.809)
Hmm.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Vanessa (04:33.107)
yeah, that's how it used to be.
Vanessa (04:40.265)
yeah.
Teri (04:40.294)
Mm-hmm.
Wilhelmina (04:41.906)
or like even when it aired like Thursday night, Sopranos, exactly. And there was something about, right.
Teri (04:43.057)
Sopranos. Yes, yes. Sunday night, that was HBO Sunday night, with Sopranos and Sex and the City.
Lauren (04:45.454)
Yeah. Sex in the city, that finale. Yep. Yeah. Yep.
Vanessa (04:51.025)
Mm-hmm.
Wilhelmina (04:53.374)
or Thursday night where you had ER, friends, Seinfeld, all of those. And so it's a shared experience where I don't feel we get that as much because everything's so spread out. so having these once a week release shows, one gets you to like build that anticipation. It gets you to kind of like be a part of community because people are talking about it. People are like predicting things, people and...
Lauren (04:55.298)
The friends, yeah.
Teri (04:56.111)
Yes!
Lauren (05:04.45)
Mm-hmm.
Wilhelmina (05:21.302)
it you feel like you're a part of something. And I know we talk a lot about like the dangers of social media and sort of like the downsides to it, which there are. But I have enjoyed feeling like I'm not the only middle aged woman who was like, have you rewatched the scene 50,000 times and downloaded Taylor Swift's dress? Yes, I have. You know, like because that's a summer turn pretty reference. So it but it felt so.
It was like a connecting thing at a time where I feel like our world and our country feels very disconnected. And so another show that my husband and I started walking, watching, which might actually be my favorite next week, but is also a once a week release show. so I'm like, that's like my big new thing. If a show is once a week drop or a couple of my Korean shows will drop two episodes a weekend. So then you have to wait.
It's just fun and it brings that shared experience back. And I love that. So I know that's kind of a weird one.
Lauren (06:27.468)
And the thing is you could create it on your own, but then nobody else is following that same like it's like, unfortunately has to be forced now.
Wilhelmina (06:30.398)
Right. No.
Vanessa (06:36.517)
And it's hard when all the episodes are there, it's hard not to like go to the next one and binge watch if it's not there. But yeah, I think it's also nice to have something to look forward to. know, like I feel like we've talked about this, how everything seems to be like, go, go, go, go, go. You know, it's August and we're thinking about Halloween and I hear there's Christmas stuff up already. Like we're always like rush, rush, rush, rush to the next thing that I kind of, I get why you're saying that. And it's nice to just, you know, slow the pace down, wait, waiting is okay, you know.
Teri (06:36.561)
Mm-hmm.
Wilhelmina (06:36.651)
Yes.
Lauren (06:38.338)
Yeah. Yeah.
Wilhelmina (06:46.55)
Mm-hmm.
Lauren (07:03.214)
Mm-hmm.
Wilhelmina (07:03.414)
Right. Waiting is okay. Yeah, having a cliffhanger. mean, how many times towards the end of this show did it end? And Maddie and I were like, no, we have to wait a whole week. You know, it was like, it was just so fun. So yeah, it's been, it's brought a smile to my face all week long. And I can't get enough of like the reaction videos of people doing also watch parties. So like getting together. Yes.
Teri (07:05.543)
Mm-hmm.
Lauren (07:05.688)
Mm-hmm.
Vanessa (07:06.055)
Waiting is okay. Yeah.
Lauren (07:09.452)
Yeah.
Teri (07:28.593)
A lot of the college girls I do therapy with have watch parties at their college. They all get together and have watch parties for that show.
Vanessa (07:29.371)
Yeah, I like fun, yeah.
Wilhelmina (07:32.639)
Yes!
It's so cute and seeing these girls just get so excited about the reactions and the scenes and it's just fun. So that's it. Terry, what about you?
Teri (07:50.257)
Mine is a show. You guys probably heard of this. Maybe you've started watching. I think it came out last week on Netflix. I'm not 100 % on that. Black Rabbit. Yes. Yes. So the only, so I was driving last week and home from work or something and I was listening to NPR and they were interviewing Jude Law. So Jude Law and Jason Bateman play brothers and they are the main
Wilhelmina (07:57.768)
Ooh, I know what you're gonna say. I know what you're gonna say. I know you're gonna say. Yes, yes. I almost did that.
Lauren (08:01.912)
Yeah, with Jason Bateman.
Vanessa (08:02.567)
I haven't heard it. Are you all surprised that I have no idea what you're talking about?
Lauren (08:17.6)
Okay, yep.
Teri (08:20.167)
protagonists and characters in the show. And I'm listening to this interview on NPR, it's Jude Law doing the promotion and really caught my interest because they played a scene from the first episode. My husband is a huge Jason Bateman fan. He was a huge fan of that Arrested Development show. He can quote it. I mean, he loves Arrested Development. I really like Jason Bateman too. He directs all the episodes. I'm not sure if he's a producer or not.
Lauren (08:30.734)
Mm-hmm.
Vanessa (08:37.905)
Mm-hmm.
Wilhelmina (08:40.384)
Love that show.
Lauren (08:45.72)
Mm-hmm.
Teri (08:47.675)
is an ode to New York's restaurant scene. They are brothers who both have a lot on their plate financially and running this restaurant that's this very trendy club slash restaurant in New York. My only caveat thus far, my husband calls it, I'm such a hater about this stuff. I'm having to pause any believability that Jude Law is a New Yorker. So once you put that to the side, it's a
Lauren (08:52.078)
Mm-hmm.
Lauren (09:13.362)
yeah that's funny.
Vanessa (09:14.951)
I was gonna ask you like, what does he sound like in the show? okay.
Teri (09:19.083)
It's he doesn't go over the top, but there's a little twinge of trying to sound New Yorkish. So well done visually. Jason Bateman. I thought he was a great actor. He is phenomenal in it as an actor. The storyline is captivating. You guys know me. I rarely finish a show or a series. I lose interest pretty easily. This one I cannot wait for the kids to go to bed. And if we're both around at night, I want to watch it. So.
Lauren (09:26.508)
Yeah.
Wilhelmina (09:29.085)
is.
Wilhelmina (09:34.143)
Yes.
Teri (09:48.835)
It's Black Rabbit, which is the name of the restaurant in the show, is the name of the restaurant's Black Rabbit. Highly recommend. I think it just came out last week, but I think all the episodes are in one fell swoop. Yeah. Yeah.
Vanessa (09:52.049)
Okay.
Lauren (09:52.28)
Yeah.
Wilhelmina (09:56.756)
It did. All the episodes are out, yeah.
Lauren (10:00.502)
Yeah, I was listening to Smart List and Jason Bateman's podcast with Will Arnett and Sean Hayes and they were talking about he had sent them episodes and how good it was and blah, blah. And I was like, ooh, so it's on our list. Haven't gotten there, but yeah, it's on our list. So yeah.
Teri (10:12.911)
It's good.
Teri (10:18.107)
Very good.
Wilhelmina (10:18.582)
Yeah, it's a little bit like The Bear Meets Ozark, I would say, right? Like kind of that restaurant plus, yeah, it's little grungy. It's a visually, yeah, it's a visually like gritty show, but it's, yeah, it is good. Yeah, we've only, we're only one episode.
Teri (10:21.883)
Yes. Yes.
Vanessa (10:23.815)
Okay, that genre.
Lauren (10:25.442)
little bit of grungy. Yeah.
Teri (10:27.055)
Yeah, it's gritty.
Teri (10:35.847)
We're only two, so I'm hoping to fit in the third tonight, maybe. How about you, Vanessa?
Vanessa (10:42.033)
So I am sharing Toto. Have you seen these? They're from Thrive Market. Okay. So I am obsessed with these in a very strange way. So you can get them on Thrive Market. And actually that's where I found that they're the best price. They are, it's a chocolate chip cookie, sea salt. They have different flavors. So they're cookies, but this is sea salt chocolate chip. It's like, the texture is like soft batch.
Teri (10:46.596)
No!
Wilhelmina (10:46.922)
No.
Teri (10:53.851)
Writing it down.
Lauren (10:55.97)
They're cute. Yeah. Cute packaging.
Vanessa (11:11.505)
cookies and it's a woman owned company which I love and you can actually understand what all the ingredients are which I love and a couple of things in there that I really like is that they include organic mushrooms which I know sounds weird but I swear if you're not a mushroom you cannot taste them in here like zero zero it tastes like a chocolate chip cookie they're so delicious good amount of fiber and protein you know
Teri (11:11.687)
Mmm.
Wilhelmina (11:12.182)
Ooh.
Lauren (11:13.749)
yum.
Wilhelmina (11:15.155)
so writing it down.
Teri (11:21.403)
Huge. Huge.
Lauren (11:31.416)
love mushrooms.
Teri (11:38.319)
Any xanthan gum or dextrose in it?
Vanessa (11:41.059)
I can read you the instructions, the ingredients. So it's almond butter, organic coconut sugar, organic oat flour, water, vegan chocolate chips, flaxseed, pea protein, baking soda, vanilla extract, sea salt, and the mushrooms. That's it. And they are so good. I know, that sounds weird. And even, I think that helps make them soft. Yeah, I swear there is no weird texture here. This tastes like a regular old soft batch cookie. They are so good. And...
Wilhelmina (11:55.414)
It's interesting.
Teri (11:55.429)
Beautiful.
Probably soft, probably a soft, right? It probably makes them, yeah, yeah.
Vanessa (12:09.455)
I went to Home Goods this weekend and I think we, I know I always forget about the like little goodie section at Home Goods and like you can find some like really good things in there. And so they had these there and they were like the cheapest I've ever seen them. So I bought all of the boxes on the shelf. And I go up to the register and the guy, was this young guy. I think he might've been flirting with me, but he was like,
Lauren (12:18.286)
Mm-hmm.
Teri (12:21.841)
My mom, my mom does, yeah.
Wilhelmina (12:30.038)
Ha
Lauren (12:30.241)
Hahaha
Vanessa (12:38.609)
So do you have to cook these? Or are they pre-made? And I was like, no, they're already cooked. You just eat them. But I probably looked like the crazy woman who had six boxes of these in her cart. Well, so here's another one. So Mark, my husband, who is pretty picky when it comes to stuff like this.
Teri (12:40.731)
God, shut up.
Lauren (12:46.904)
funny.
Teri (12:53.947)
You're selling them though. I'm sold. I'm sold. I'm in.
Wilhelmina (12:55.796)
Yeah, I know.
Vanessa (13:05.275)
He was kind of like, meh, about these. And I was like, I swear, just try them. And I say picky because he's like very health conscious and he's also trying to stay away from all the like, you know, junk. And he was like, that is a good cookie. Told you, it's a good cookie. It's a good cookie. So it's weird, but it's good. I mean, weird being that it has mushrooms in it, but toto. And there's other flavors. I have not tried any of them. They look great, but I'm obsessed with the chocolate chips. saw one. So if you're looking for a healthy cookie.
Teri (13:12.017)
Mm-hmm.
Teri (13:16.441)
additives.
Lauren (13:19.47)
Hmm
Lauren (13:33.154)
Nice.
Vanessa (13:35.591)
strongly recommend.
Lauren (13:38.168)
Awesome.
Vanessa (13:38.415)
Alright ladies, thank you for sharing. So let's get into the 90s. What do you guys remember the most from the 90s?
Teri (13:47.143)
For me, the music and some movies and the fashion, I think. The look, just like the 90s look, which really, from my perspective, evolved from grunge, early 90s, mid 90s grunge, evolved more towards the friends, Rachel type of look as, yeah, exactly.
Wilhelmina (14:05.59)
You're good. You're good.
Lauren (14:06.487)
Mm-hmm.
Wilhelmina (14:12.448)
Yes. Like the Delilah catalog. No, Delia's? Delia's. Delia's. Yeah, Delilah is the radio person.
Lauren (14:13.26)
Mm-hmm.
Vanessa (14:16.583)
Delia, Delia's. Isn't there a song? Hey there, Delilah? Yes, okay. It's not.
Teri (14:17.179)
Delia, Delia, Delia's.
Lauren (14:19.086)
Radio lady. Also 90s.
Teri (14:23.143)
Yes, I think there's a whiskey bar in the city called Delilah. Yes, yes. Yes, yes, which I don't think is from the 90s, but I think yes, there's a song. So that's what I personally remember. And I also, again, we were in high school for like, think of high school as the 90s. And for at least half of it, yeah, like I was in high school. And so we all were. And I think just
Wilhelmina (14:25.597)
Also 90s, yes.
Lauren (14:28.227)
yeah. huh, huh.
Wilhelmina (14:30.058)
Yes.
Lauren (14:33.697)
Uh-uh. No.
Vanessa (14:44.047)
Yeah, at least half of it.
Teri (14:52.667)
things felt calm. I don't know if that's the right, the big, huge controversy was Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. That was huge and dominated news and headlines and things. Again, this is pre-9-11. So things felt, but again, I was in high school. But when you look back statistically, there was a lot more financial stability in general.
People were very prosperous just in terms of the housing market and rates and know income etc. I think there's a more political stability. There was more financial stability. So I don't know if that eeked into what I was perceiving as a teenager or I was living in my own little selfish egocentric teenage bubble.
Vanessa (15:35.143)
No, I think that's true.
Lauren (15:37.294)
Well, but part of it is like, it's the concept of nostalgia, right? we only, is like recreating memories and we're gonna have a positive spin on them. We're not remembering the negative stuff. I mean, that's part of it, right? So yeah, I'd be curious if we asked our parents about that same time period and if, right.
Teri (15:41.905)
Yeah. Yeah.
Vanessa (16:00.12)
what they recall, yeah.
Teri (16:01.593)
Mm-hmm.
Lauren (16:02.786)
Like part of it is the age and stage we were at, we weren't paying attention to. So even if historically there was more stability, I mean, the Gulf War was in the nineties though too, like early nineties, right? Like there wasn't like, it's more of how we perceive it because that was like an era where we didn't have a whole lot of responsibility and probably not a whole lot of awareness about what was going on.
Teri (16:14.278)
Right.
Teri (16:24.038)
Yes.
Vanessa (16:26.289)
Well, because I think social media changes that. when I think that this was pre social, right? Like there was none of that. If you wanted to know what was going on in the world, you either picked up a newspaper, newspapers, or you watch TV. So I feel like, especially if we were in high school during most of that period, that there was less opportunity to consume that information too. So I think that plays a role in all of that too. I think some of my like biggest memories from the nineties is Nirvana. I was a crazy.
Lauren (16:30.21)
That's a good point. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Teri (16:38.513)
Mm-hmm.
Lauren (16:39.392)
Yeah.
Lauren (16:49.037)
Mm-hmm
Vanessa (16:55.621)
Nirvana, Whole Green Day, Girl, going to the thrift store, buying my bowling shirts from a man named Rusty, his old bowling shirt. And then I spent a good chunk of my 90s going to raves. So when that was alive and well, that was before, I think someone said recently that these concerts, what are they calling them, are kind of like replacing, they're like the new rave, like the concerts that all the kids go to now is kind of like.
Teri (17:00.231)
Mm-hmm.
Teri (17:04.432)
Mm-hmm.
Vanessa (17:25.008)
the new rave. That's what I remember from the 90s, the jankos, the lots of glitter in my life.
Teri (17:26.299)
No, they're not. Yeah.
Teri (17:33.287)
Yes.
Lauren (17:34.552)
I was looking at the trends that they were talking about, from like, what are the trends that are coming back that you're, kind of like, you have the nostalgia for versus the ones you're like, no, those can stay in the nineties. So some of the ones that they listed were bucket hats, which I was like a big like, no, those can stay in the nineties.
Vanessa (17:44.061)
yeah.
Wilhelmina (17:49.855)
my god. my god.
Teri (17:50.161)
They're back and I hate them. I hate them.
Vanessa (17:52.293)
Yeah, they don't actually provide any shade and any woman our age is going to try to shade their face. Zero utility.
Lauren (17:55.576)
They're ugly.
Lauren (17:59.826)
Now, Chokers are coming back. The Chokers, which I also said I could leave in the 90s. But the one that I thought was really interesting was Collectibles. And so in the 90s, it was Beanie Babies. And now it's the Labooboos, which I thought was like, I mean, like all that silly stuff. was like, all of those I could leave. But they said, scrunchies also making a return. I'm like, well, I love a scrunchie. So I could take a scrunchie.
Teri (18:03.335)
I could think about a choker.
I couldn't.
Wilhelmina (18:12.97)
Vanessa (18:13.437)
yeah. yes. Or the little foo-foos my daughter likes to say.
Teri (18:15.259)
Yes.
Wilhelmina (18:15.667)
yes.
Teri (18:21.094)
Yes.
Wilhelmina (18:26.169)
yeah.
Vanessa (18:26.48)
they have. yeah, Av's got a bunch. She's got scrunchies and chokers.
Teri (18:27.431)
Yeah, I love a scrunchie.
Lauren (18:29.258)
And then actual flash photography. I was like, I would like, I love that. Like seeing like teenagers with like a real camera, like it's kind of fun. So those were the ones that I was like, yeah, those can come back. I think those are cool.
Teri (18:33.545)
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Vanessa (18:43.015)
Well, it's funny now, I feel that the bands like Nirvana, for example, like if you go and look on Urban Outfitters, even Target, the t-shirts, the sweatshirts are all, you know, I'm like, I know these bands. And in fact, there's an influencer that I follow and she had this like really cute Nirvana sweatshirt, I think it was like last fall and it was from Urban Outfitters. And I bought it and then I thought, is it weird that I'm buying this?
Lauren (18:51.92)
the shirts. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Vanessa (19:09.543)
But then I was like, but I actually listened to Nirvana. I actually know this band. Like, I don't think it's weird for me to wear this. Is this weird? I wasn't sure. I still wear it. But I had a moment where I was thinking, is this odd that I'm wearing a Nirvana sweatshirt?
Teri (19:11.715)
Mm-hmm. Right.
Lauren (19:13.133)
Right?
Teri (19:25.135)
I do wonder, so there definitely has been a resurgence among teens, young adults, young people in terms of embodying the nineties. So it's not just the fashion looks or the hairstyles, it's the music, the movies, the TV shows. Like I know Wilhelmina was gonna mention people rewatching Friends. I know I was coming home, the few friends from this like dinner thing and this teenager were walking by a high school, the teenager walked by with a loudspeaker playing slipknot.
Wilhelmina (19:30.102)
Mm-hmm.
Wilhelmina (19:40.031)
TV shows.
Teri (19:53.339)
which is like this heavy hardcore band. Like my husband used to listen to them. And I, my friend Steph recognized it cause she used to listen to a lot of that kind of music. And she's like, that kid is playing slipknot. She's like, I listened to slipknot when we were teenagers. so it's, they're fully sort of embodying it, but they weren't even alive in the nineties. So it's so interesting that there's something so that's really capturing some young people, like the music, the look, the everything. I don't know.
Lauren (19:54.824)
Vanessa (19:55.367)
Mm-mm.
Vanessa (20:07.27)
Mm-hmm.
Vanessa (20:22.375)
I think that happens though.
Wilhelmina (20:22.55)
When I can't.
Lauren (20:22.936)
whole group of friends in high school that did that with the Beatles though. I mean, I, they went, I had some friends that were obsessed with the Beatles and the Grateful Dead and that wasn't a thing in the nineties. They weren't making new music. So I do think there is that, that, that tendency that we find something of our parents' generation that we are actually, that we actually like. And yeah.
Teri (20:25.883)
Yes. Yes.
Vanessa (20:26.461)
yeah, and the Grateful Dead too. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
Wilhelmina (20:28.97)
Hmm
Teri (20:29.595)
Yes.
Teri (20:33.895)
Great.
Wilhelmina (20:34.09)
Yeah.
Teri (20:45.191)
those cultural cycles.
Vanessa (20:47.185)
Yeah, for sure.
Wilhelmina (20:47.606)
Well, it makes me think when I was thinking about the 90s and I was thinking about the things that I like remember associate with the 90s, which, Terry, you just mentioned it, Friends, Thursday night TV. So was like ER, Seinfeld, Friends. Like I talked about earlier, that experience, blockbuster. Actually going with your friends on a Friday night.
Teri (20:59.143)
Mm-hmm.
Vanessa (21:08.586)
Lauren (21:09.518)
Mmm.
Wilhelmina (21:12.214)
to rent a movie and the shared experience of walking through the aisles, finding out what was new. Oh no, yes, was a whole, was exactly. And you would like, do we want something funny? Do we want something scary? What do we want? I mean, I just, was so, like one of my best friends, Erica, she worked at Blockbuster, you know? And so,
Vanessa (21:14.515)
my gosh.
picking your movie, getting your snack. my gosh.
Teri (21:18.769)
That was part of the night. That was like the first part of your night. Yes.
Teri (21:28.487)
Should we get to?
Vanessa (21:30.023)
Tub of popcorn.
Lauren (21:34.2)
Yep, yep.
Wilhelmina (21:41.426)
That alone was, I mean, I hadn't even heard of a blockbuster thought about it for the longest time. And all of a sudden I was like, blockbusters, I love it. And I kind of think this was one of the last times before the cell phones, before smartphones. it was like, people hung out, people talked, like friends. I mean, what do they do? They sit around and they talk. Can you imagine a
Vanessa (22:00.219)
Mm-hmm.
Lauren (22:00.686)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Lauren (22:05.39)
Mm-hmm.
Teri (22:07.249)
Kavishan.
Wilhelmina (22:10.994)
show like friends being made today, what would that even look like? Like, would they have their phones? Would they be on their phones while they're talking to each other? Like, what would that look like? So it made me think, was this one of the last things before we got shoved into this totally different world, totally different kind of age of disconnection, I sort of think. Also the, yes, yes.
Teri (22:22.631)
That's a good question.
Teri (22:34.897)
things felt more connected. Yeah.
Vanessa (22:38.055)
It reminded me of like pagers. Oh yeah, 07734. Oh my gosh. Oh, I was.
Teri (22:40.571)
Yes. Remember the codes? You would have different codes. Yes.
Wilhelmina (22:40.63)
Oh my gosh, Codes? The codes!
Lauren (22:41.68)
my god.
Lauren (22:47.007)
my god. I was not in the pager group. That is funny. That's funny. I did not.
Teri (22:51.499)
I was, I was, yes. I would wear overalls and I would clip it in my overalls. I'm walking around. Yes, which I'm here for. I like a good overall. Do you know the two trends that I would not want to see come back? And I hope they don't and I haven't seen them yet. The real narrow sunglasses.
Wilhelmina (22:51.638)
Definitely had a pager.
Vanessa (22:57.5)
yeah, click. yeah.
Lauren (23:00.77)
Those have come back. The overalls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wilhelmina (23:12.544)
God, I know.
Vanessa (23:12.741)
no, they're back. I've seen some, I don't know that they, I don't know that they're, they've latched onto that, but I've seen a couple of influencers with, and I was like, mm.
Lauren (23:13.602)
Teri (23:17.648)
Okay.
They don't, I don't think they look good on anybody. Yes. And as a side note on the bucket hat, my husband loves a bucket hat. I can't stand him. He looks so stupid in it. He looks so stupid. And then he got our younger son, Tommy, a bucket hat. And we are, listen to this, we are at a Bears game in the front row at a pre-season game. They filmed us. We are now part of the rotating NFL on Fox commercial montage.
Lauren (23:22.094)
Mm.
Wilhelmina (23:24.118)
They're sort of
Lauren (23:24.898)
Mm-mm. Yeah.
Wilhelmina (23:30.228)
Me? Mine does too! He has this one that he's saving and I keep trying to throw it away. I'm like, if you ever put this on.
Vanessa (23:37.063)
Lauren (23:40.27)
Bye!
Vanessa (23:50.279)
He's excused.
Teri (23:50.843)
with Tommy in a bucket hat cheering. It's very quick. They show a whole montage for the Chicago Bears games. We are part of the NFL Fox montage of us cheering with Tommy in a bucket hat. Danny's also in a full bear costume. Kids, yes. And he has his glasses and he looks cute. The other trend I do hope does not come back and I don't think it will. I think we're past it is the ultra thin eyebrows. That.
Lauren (23:56.348)
Wilhelmina (23:56.47)
I mean, that's sort of adorable.
Lauren (24:00.568)
That is funny. Well, kids in bucket hats are cute.
Vanessa (24:04.635)
Yeah.
Wilhelmina (24:04.726)
I know, I was like, I mean...
Lauren (24:08.396)
Yeah.
Vanessa (24:14.885)
yeah.
Lauren (24:15.841)
god.
Teri (24:16.557)
We all, mean, I was victim to it. All my friends, just was, I mean, I remember my grandma looking at me. Yes. And I remember my grandma looking at me and saying, you better hope those grow back because they might not. And being like, why would I want them to grow back? I look so good. They're so thin.
Wilhelmina (24:21.686)
I remember when I would pluck it. Oh, it's like, I don't think you have anything more to pluck. It's like, there's like nothing there.
Lauren (24:22.678)
It's a good call.
Lauren (24:32.238)
the
Vanessa (24:33.435)
Well, that was something that, but that was actually trendy. I wouldn't be surprised that someday it does because that was a trend even before like that cycle through too, because my grandmother who's 96 now, she had the super thin pencil back in her day. And so she would always, she ended up having the.
Wilhelmina (24:36.406)
This is the look forever.
Lauren (24:37.142)
Hahaha
Teri (24:45.595)
Yes.
Lauren (24:48.312)
Mmm.
Teri (24:51.719)
Same with my grandma.
Vanessa (24:56.559)
microblading done at some point. My grandma's wild. So she actually had that done because she's like, I don't have any more eyebrows because back in her young, when she was young in her twenties, that was the style to just literally have no eyebrows. So I hope I will not be partaking if that trend comes back because you know what? It took a long time to grow these babies back. We'll not be subscribing to that.
Teri (25:08.784)
Yes.
Lauren (25:09.806)
Interesting.
Teri (25:16.887)
exactly. that's where my and those cultural cycles I was reading about sometimes the the sort of typical cultural cycle they say is 30 years, give or take. So there might be 15, 20 years, 30 years. And they said part of it is that the people who are in positions at companies who are branding directors, marketing who. So right now, those people are Gen Xers and older millennials, they said. So that is what's driving some of it. They can do a twist on it.
Lauren (25:20.398)
Alright.
Vanessa (25:27.207)
make sense?
Lauren (25:27.542)
Yeah, that makes sense.
Vanessa (25:36.228)
and
Lauren (25:36.858)
Wilhelmina (25:40.576)
Yes. Yes.
Lauren (25:41.719)
Mm-hmm.
Vanessa (25:43.985)
that trend. Makes sense.
Teri (25:45.755)
Yes, those people, yeah, they have deeper pockets and then we have deeper pockets now at our age. And so we're going to spend the money for our teenagers and our tweens and ourselves at the certain trends that we like that came back. So I think that that makes sense. What explains some of those cultural cycles?
Wilhelmina (25:45.846)
Mm-hmm.
Lauren (25:47.478)
It's what they're familiar with and they're, yeah.
Yes.
Wilhelmina (26:04.852)
And I've seen that in movies where in, when we watched movies or TV shows and it was like, it was based in an older time. It was like the seventies or the sixties. And now if a TV, a movie or TV show is sort of, it's eighties or nineties because it is like our, it's our generation making these things and they're thinking about their childhood and their time. And I've seen that shift.
like over and over again, holiday movies, things like that, where you're now seeing that, you know, mixed tapes. You remember making a mixed tape? Getting the CD into the tape or getting your show, your song on the radio. And you would call up and you'd be like, I would like to listen to November Rain by Guns N' Roses. And then you would hope to God that they played it and you'd have your recorder ready for.
Lauren (26:34.126)
Mm-hmm.
Teri (26:34.663)
Mm-hmm.
Vanessa (26:40.324)
yeah.
Teri (26:40.583)
yes.
Lauren (26:41.425)
yeah!
Teri (26:45.787)
the radio.
Lauren (26:46.51)
You have
Mm-hmm.
Lauren (26:58.914)
You'd have depressed right there.
Teri (27:01.541)
Yes. I had an ex-boyfriend, a guy dated in high school after our breakup, leave me a mixtape that he made that was taped over, like a regular tape, in a box. And I remember my little sister, Gina, coming home, and then I got home and she's like, there's a package for you. And I'm like, you can open it. And she's like, it's a tape. And I was like, I have to go listen to it. And I remember going up and putting it in my little boombox thing and listening, what songs did he put on it? What message is he trying to tell me?
Vanessa (27:02.043)
that.
Vanessa (27:25.211)
Yeah.
Lauren (27:27.118)
Hmm.
Teri (27:31.215)
It was, it was a thing. Mixed tapes were a thing.
Vanessa (27:32.967)
That's so funny. have, well, the CD players are also, I don't know, at some point they came around and there's a test that we give in psychology that they have not updated in quite a long time. And so I have a CD player, the NAP-C. So I have a CD player in my office. It's like an open-faced one. And so I still use the CD player. And I know I have people who have like recorded it since, so I could put it on my computer. Yeah, I do too.
Wilhelmina (27:35.606)
They were.
Lauren (27:39.469)
Yeah.
Teri (27:45.756)
The seat up.
the Napsy, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Lauren (27:58.094)
I was going to say, I have it downloaded. I'll send you the download. that's funny. What is that? Right.
Teri (27:59.889)
I do too. I know, say it. Okay.
Vanessa (28:00.839)
I have a download too, but I like, I just like doing it off of the CD player. So the kids will come to my office and they're like, what is that? I'm like, well, this is how we used to listen to music in the olden days. That's what my daughter refers to anything, the olden days. That's what they said in the olden days. Okay. Thank you.
Lauren (28:14.614)
Mm-hmm.
Teri (28:15.042)
my gosh.
Wilhelmina (28:17.546)
The olden days.
Lauren (28:19.318)
last century, right? That's funny.
Wilhelmina (28:26.272)
Were low-rise jeans 90s or is that 2000?
Teri (28:30.487)
I think that was...
Lauren (28:30.92)
I know they're making a comeback. I hope they stay far, far away.
Wilhelmina (28:32.335)
I know they're coming back and that does not need to come back. No one needs to see your ass crack. No, we didn't need to see it then. We don't need to see it now.
Vanessa (28:35.463)
I they were the 2000s. I think it was the 2000s because I definitely did not wear them in high school or
Teri (28:35.611)
That was, yeah, early, that was the, like Britney Spears and all them got pretty big once we were out of high school, but I think that look, so think that's more early 2000s.
Lauren (28:45.844)
early 2000s. Yep.
Vanessa (28:46.107)
Yeah.
Wilhelmina (28:46.806)
Okay, early 2000s, Yeah, you're right, okay.
Vanessa (28:49.317)
Yes, yes, that's another trend that I will not be partaking in.
Lauren (28:51.564)
Yes, because...
Teri (28:52.977)
They're not forgiving. They're just not. No matter, no... Yes, yes.
Lauren (28:54.758)
Mm-mm. Mm-mm. You cannot sit down. You cannot sit down.
Wilhelmina (28:54.87)
They are not. Then you'd wear the thong and you'd have a thong coming out of it. Like, this is not.
Vanessa (29:00.359)
your whale tail? you mean your whale tail? you've never heard that?
Teri (29:02.983)
Oh, I've never heard that. No! Whale tail. Like the tramp stamps.
Vanessa (29:08.795)
Well, this is a very educational podcast.
Wilhelmina (29:13.023)
the tramp stamps. Yes.
Teri (29:13.649)
Yes. Well, the tramp stamp was a big tattoo.
Vanessa (29:17.465)
Well, that's why you had one so that you can show them in your low rise jeans, your whale tail and your term stamp.
Lauren (29:18.359)
Mm-hmm.
Wilhelmina (29:21.706)
Yes, yes.
Lauren (29:25.986)
also trends that are OK to stay away.
Vanessa (29:27.591)
my gosh, I cannot tell you how many people I know who are trying to get rid of tattoos that, you know, that that trans stamp tattoo because of the location. It kind of it dates you. It does. It does. I mean, that was like it was trendy. That's where you put your tattoo.
Teri (29:29.233)
Guess.
Teri (29:37.681)
Yes. Yes, it does date you.
Wilhelmina (29:39.198)
It really does date you. Like you see.
Teri (29:45.371)
What do you guys like that's back? What do you guys likey? Okay. I love the Birkenstocks, the clogs, Birks, just the sandals. They're comfy. I think they look cute. I'm really a fan of all the Birkenstocks coming back.
Wilhelmina (29:49.376)
Bootleg jeans, bootleg jeans, yes.
Vanessa (29:53.191)
change.
Lauren (29:53.614)
That's a cough.
Vanessa (29:55.535)
Yeah. Yeah.
Wilhelmina (30:04.022)
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Lauren (30:05.56)
I read an article that 90s Christmas is going to be coming back, like that that's like a trend and just like the idea of like not so aesthetically pleasing is not the right word, but just like lots of color, like lots of things. And I was like, I could, yeah, I'm like, I can get behind that. Yes, not so curated. Thank you. Yes, thank you. Yeah. There you go.
Teri (30:09.799)
What does that mean?
Wilhelmina (30:15.37)
Ooh, I love this. I am there for that.
Vanessa (30:15.783)
Not matching ornaments. ha ha. Terrarided. Yeah.
Teri (30:21.955)
Not so cure, not so curated looking. Yeah.
Wilhelmina (30:22.346)
Yes.
So just what I do all of the time will just be now popular because that is it. Yes, the colorful lights that I just throw on my bushes and I'm like, yay.
Vanessa (30:27.729)
Yeah.
Teri (30:29.755)
Yes. Yes. Where it's a hodgepodge of decorations. It's like, yes.
Lauren (30:32.056)
But I liked that idea. was like, I love that. Yes.
Vanessa (30:32.103)
Yeah.
Vanessa (30:38.247)
It's wrapping it around and hoping to, it's like you wrap it around, you just hope that that's symmetrically, that it's all symmetrical and then you figure it out once you turn it on. Looks fine.
Teri (30:38.609)
Yes.
Lauren (30:39.178)
all the colors. Yes, no netting. that's so gross. Yes, I love so I loved that idea. I don't think yes, open to interpretation.
Wilhelmina (30:41.622)
Yes.
Teri (30:42.555)
Yeah.
Wilhelmina (30:50.42)
And it isn't, but it looks great anyway.
Lauren (30:50.753)
Yeah.
Teri (30:52.303)
Yep. Yep.
Lauren (30:53.678)
I'm like, I like this, I could get behind this. So yeah.
Vanessa (30:57.595)
When was Tinsel? Do you guys remember Tinsel that you like, was that 80s?
Lauren (31:00.802)
That was more like 70s, 80s, I think. Yeah. Like little bit of a fire hazard.
Teri (31:02.267)
Yes, when we were kids, that was a thing. Yes. Just a little. Just a little.
Wilhelmina (31:03.337)
I like 80s.
Vanessa (31:05.959)
Just a little, just a little.
Wilhelmina (31:06.55)
little bit of a fire. If you have pets, cats, you're going to see that tinsel again. Actually, you're going to see it, but both ends really with the cat. It's like that thing. It's like no tinsel.
Lauren (31:13.1)
Right, right, yes. Small children, yes.
Teri (31:21.231)
I also have a theory, partly think, and this is so biased, that the 90s music has been pervasive. First of all, it's so good, and there's such a variety of it. And I listened to everything. Like I was really into Pearl Jam, I was really into hip hop. A lot of my friends I hung out with were really into like heavy music. I mean, I remember going to Oz Fest, I went to Lilith Fair. I mean, the amount of shows and concerts that it...
I mean, I went and saw Wu-Tang and Rage Against the Machine. Like I just went to so many different concerts and shows in high school and my friends all had listened to a variety of music. Like we weren't all the same. And it seems like 90s music has been pervasively popular for like 10 years now, young people listening to it. And my husband will be like, cause there's really not, there's some good music that's come out lately, but there's not a ton. And even my kids listen to 90s sports jams. eight...
Like my eight and 10 year old will be listening to like these. Yes. Yes. And so that's what they play so that they like it. And I'm always like, man, this nineties music is just everywhere. And do you guys agree or disagree that that it that love of it is related to there's just not as much good variety of music lately. So everyone's still listening to the old stuff or are we forcing our kids? I don't know. Like we're forcing people to still listen to it.
Lauren (32:16.086)
Yeah, that's what they'll play like in the sports facilities too. Yes, yes, yes, yes. that's funny.
Wilhelmina (32:44.02)
You know what I am curious about with that? I remember falling in love with an album, the entire album, where you might like the song that was popular and why you bought the album, but then you find the ones that you're like, no one knows this song unless you had that album. And then you know that song. sometimes, I mean, the way they laid out the album, the story, like it often had like a sort of theme or story or whatever. And now music is written for the, just to be dropped.
Teri (32:50.895)
Yes!
Lauren (32:52.59)
Hmm
Vanessa (32:59.685)
Yeah.
Teri (33:01.894)
Mm-hmm.
Vanessa (33:12.827)
hit.
Wilhelmina (33:13.522)
one at a time, like singles, singles. So you want to catch people as opposed to have this experience with a CD. I mean, I can put on any of my like 90s albums and still know every word of every single song, the entire album.
Lauren (33:14.36)
Like singles, yeah.
Teri (33:27.559)
Oh, every 311, every Beastie Boys album, every 311 album, I could still recite to this day almost every lyric. And I also remember looking, poring over the booklet. And yes, because the lyrics would be in it and who did they dedicate it to? I mean, you could really, that's what you would do while you were listening is you would open it up and read it cover to cover, whatever the fold out thing was.
Wilhelmina (33:38.515)
yeah, the booklet, the lyrics and all of, yes.
Vanessa (33:39.687)
The little came with your music. The lyrics, yeah.
Wilhelmina (33:46.986)
Yes.
Lauren (33:50.499)
Yeah.
Vanessa (33:54.779)
I think that it's.
Wilhelmina (33:54.964)
All of the like female grunge, kind of like the, yes, garbage. Even like, I mean, this isn't grunge, but like Sarah McLachlan, all of these like just, the cranberries.
Teri (33:58.107)
Whole, like I know every word to every whole song. Yep.
Vanessa (33:59.527)
yeah.
Lauren (34:06.274)
The cranberries.
Teri (34:07.547)
Yes. Yeah, my son likes the cranberries. I'm like, on what?
Vanessa (34:13.51)
Well, I think it's part of, like you said, the with the clothes trends, right? The people who are kind of putting it out there, who are in charge of right, that's part of it. But I think, you know, they're they're throwing it out there. Right. And, you know, when we were kids thinking about the music, they what they were playing when you went to a live sports game, it was like the music that your parents knew. Right. So part of that. But I also think what you were just saying, well, I mean, is, you know, how music was created back then also feels very different than how it like you bought the CD, you bought the tape. Right. And if you
Lauren (34:18.912)
Yeah, they're throwing it out there, yeah.
Teri (34:19.237)
Yeah, movies, TV.
Vanessa (34:41.543)
spent your money on that, you were sure as heck we're gonna listen to it, because you couldn't just go to Pandora and pick the one song you wanna listen to. So I think it's a very different experience than how people experience music now. In addition to, yeah, we just drop a song and it's like, this one song's popular and then we kind of move on to like, what's the next popular song? Do you guys remember when we went, and I've mentioned this on a podcast before, the last time we went out.
Lauren (34:48.866)
Mm-hmm.
Vanessa (35:08.135)
when we were in Savannah and we went to that bar and we were like, we know every song that they were playing. like, yeah, we're like, we knew every song that they were playing. And it seemed like the younger people there also did. so, I mean, again, the DJ was probably around our age, which again, could have contributed to it. But I felt like all the younger people there knew the songs too and they were all dancing to it. So I was like, this is not the first time they've heard this. So it was...
Lauren (35:11.278)
yeah.
Wilhelmina (35:11.85)
All the songs. Yes. They were playing just like us. Like they were playing our music. Yes.
Teri (35:14.235)
Yes!
Yes!
Teri (35:20.647)
I remember some of those guys that we were, yes, yes.
Teri (35:33.415)
That's what I'm talking about.
Vanessa (35:37.251)
It was kind of, I remember us thinking like, that's weird. Don't they have their own music?
Teri (35:40.411)
Mm-hmm.
Wilhelmina (35:42.602)
My daughter's Scout troop, they were playing, I remember this was like a couple of years ago, the Spice Girls wannabe, and they knew all of the words, like the same way that I know all of the words. And I was like, where are they hearing this? Like, mean, than us, I guess, but I was like, I'm not getting this on.
Teri (35:43.802)
saying.
Teri (35:55.431)
Huh.
Lauren (35:55.758)
That's funny. Yeah. Yeah.
Teri (35:58.225)
Mm-hmm.
Lauren (36:03.598)
through us. But it's interesting because, Terry, you mentioned before, I think, like, we're the consumers. So, you know, like, in terms of like marketing and branding, if it's women in their 40s, right, right? Is the age range like women that are like, essentially running households? So probably, you know, 40s to, I don't know what 60s or something like that, like, they're the ones that are spending all the money.
Teri (36:11.612)
All
Teri (36:16.751)
Mm-hmm.
Teri (36:21.436)
Right.
Teri (36:27.996)
Mm-hmm.
Lauren (36:28.142)
There's all sorts of 90s reunions for all the boy bands and all the people that we used to listen to. And those are hugely popular as well as the TV shows. They're going to different cities and people are spending money on tickets to go see these people in these things. So it's like the out there in the ether. Well, we just had, I sent you guys, I know this is early 2000s, but there was a hundred thousand people in our little town of Brighton for a Gilmore Girls
Wilhelmina (36:45.408)
The Dawson's Creek reunion.
Yes.
Teri (36:57.863)
So huge.
Lauren (36:57.954)
They made the town stars hollow. had Luke was there from the Gilmore Girls show and did, it was the amount of, so I follow a bunch of the little boutiques in the bookstore downtown. So each place was like a place in the show. put like, they would for like a Hallmark movie. They put like a sign up that said, whatever the coffee shop was called and stuff like that. Thank you.
Wilhelmina (37:01.716)
is so cool.
Teri (37:15.409)
So clever.
Wilhelmina (37:20.97)
Luke Steiner and yeah.
Lauren (37:23.752)
And they did all sorts of like little nods to the show everywhere. And they had a town hall and they did all sorts of things. The amount of people that flew in from different states, they had shuttles from all the hotels around here. The amount of money that must have been made at these stores and every store did something that was specific to the show. And then people were just buying things from these stores.
Teri (37:37.219)
my gosh.
Teri (37:41.306)
Mm-hmm.
Vanessa (37:44.173)
Mm-hmm. How clever.
Lauren (37:47.79)
So like there is like when you ask like, why are we listening to the music? I think like if we're the consumers and people in that are, you know, in marketing and things in these, companies know that we're the ones that are going to buy it, pushing it out makes a whole lot of sense, you know, because we're spending the money and then our kids start to learn it and all of that kind of stuff.
Teri (38:06.087)
Right. And I mean, we'll be driving in the car, you know, going to sports or running errands or whatever. we'll one 90 song will come on and my kids will love it. And I'll be like, wait, I've got five more that I can play for you that you're probably going to love. And so then I'm also feeling it because I'm like, you'll like this. You're like insane with the movies. Yes. Yes. Like, like I loved this movie. I wonder if you love this movie. you liked this movie. I bet you like this movie.
Vanessa (38:17.159)
Excuse me.
Wilhelmina (38:17.578)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Lauren (38:19.914)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exposure. Yep. Yep.
Wilhelmina (38:24.244)
Yes.
Lauren (38:28.632)
Mm-hmm.
absolutely. Yeah. Well, it's funny. We just started watching the Wednesday series. I know. So I know you had talked. I think you had even, I don't know if you talked about it last year, shared it, maybe. But if it wasn't, you talked with us about it. so this time of year, I thought it would be fun to do like over the next month or something like that. And immediately I'm like looking at Christina Ricci, who's in the show and I'm like,
Wilhelmina (38:36.466)
it's so good.
Vanessa (38:37.786)
It's so good.
Wilhelmina (38:41.962)
I think it was, was it one of my faves last year? Might have been.
Vanessa (38:45.409)
Yeah, it's so good.
Vanessa (38:51.014)
Mm-hmm.
Lauren (38:57.47)
you guys would love, and I'm thinking of all of her movies, so I'm going back into the 90s. Yeah, and so it, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Wilhelmina (39:00.664)
huh, huh.
Teri (39:01.063)
She was a big 90s. She was a 90s staple.
Vanessa (39:01.125)
we just watched them. We just watched that because Ev is too young to watch the Wednesday show because she's only eight. And I was like, this is too scary for her. But I loved it. So that's a good one. So I actually had her watch the Adams, like the one with, yes, the original. Yep. we watched it. So she wanted to watch this. No, no, no. The one from. Yeah, yes, yeah, yes. With Angelica Houston. Angelica Houston. Yes.
Wilhelmina (39:15.264)
The original.
Lauren (39:15.648)
Yes, that's what I told the boys. You would love this. Yes.
Teri (39:18.801)
The black and white, the black and white TV show from the 60s?
Wilhelmina (39:21.214)
No, no, no, like the one with Christina Ricci, the one with Christina Ricci. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep.
Lauren (39:21.646)
No. From the 90s. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes, yes. Yes.
Teri (39:24.864)
yeah, yeah, okay. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Vanessa (39:30.087)
So we watched the Addams Family and the Addams Family Values and she loved it. She was like, and then she was so much into it that we then watched the newer version, which is the cartoon version, which is also really cute. So yeah, it's so like, it's funny because I was watching it and there were some things in there that she was like, mom, what's that? And like, I was like, I don't know. So it was funny that I remember watching that as a kid and not.
Lauren (39:33.698)
Yes, yes. Yeah.
Lauren (39:41.804)
The cartoon one, yep. Yeah.
Lauren (39:53.166)
L-L-L-
Vanessa (39:57.188)
and being like, there are some inappropriate things in there, but not terribly inappropriate, but.
Lauren (40:00.194)
inappropriate. I'm like what, like a phone on a wall? Okay, no, you're... okay.
Vanessa (40:03.143)
No, no, no, no, just like some some of the language I think in the second one was a little inappropriate. Again, nothing, nothing crazy. But she was like, Mom, what's that? And I was like, I they weren't bad words. was insinuate. There were some insinuations. Yes, yes. Yes. So she yeah. But I mean, nothing bad. was. It was the second one with when what's her name? She's the.
Teri (40:03.271)
No.
Teri (40:11.571)
My kids don't know any of those words.
I know. Like sexual into windows. Yeah, yeah.
Lauren (40:21.806)
There's a lot of that in that, yeah. Especially with more tish or whatever.
Teri (40:26.759)
She's like, sexy Morticia.
Lauren (40:30.55)
or whatever her name is.
Vanessa (40:31.949)
her name the blonde lady my gosh Wilhelmina you have to know this can't remember her name she's in Adam's family the value is a second one
Wilhelmina (40:37.078)
Yes, you mean Joan Cusack when she was the... Yes. I don't know who she played, but yes, yes, yes.
Vanessa (40:43.021)
Yes. Okay, I remember her character's name, but it's her character where she's got some sexual innuendos. Anyway, anyway, it's still, it's such a great... yeah, you gotta watch it. It's good. Great time of year to watch that.
Lauren (40:52.012)
Yeah.
Wilhelmina (40:54.44)
And yeah, the new one is really, really good. And it does tie in some fun stuff from like the Christina Ricci era. It's really good. It's really good. But I would say that, well, your kids are watching it. Yeah, we started watching it last when it came out originally. nine, when it was the last year. So Griffin was nine. Yeah. Little Bits. Yes.
Lauren (41:12.418)
Yeah, was going to say Jack is 10 and Sam is 12 and it's like, there's little scaries, but they're not jump scares. They're not jump scares. just, you know, yeah, it's yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Vanessa (41:14.865)
yeah, that's fine.
It's more scary. So yeah, I would say not inappropriate stuff. It's scary. So that's my kids like a scaredy cat. So I was like, that's a hard no, because I'm going to get the like in the middle of the night, I'm scared. So if your child is a scaredy cat, no, it's not inappropriate. Yeah, yeah, it's a little scary. That's the only reason. Any other 90s trends, memories?
Lauren (41:28.692)
Yeah, yeah, no, we've been okay so far. But yeah, yeah. I think like 10 is probably good. Yeah. Like general. Yeah.
Teri (41:28.868)
Mm-hmm.
Teri (41:42.577)
Do we think it's, yeah. go ahead. No, no. I was just gonna say, as we're wrapping up, do we think, how long do we think this ride is gonna last? Like in terms of it, but maybe you have a different thought before we get to that, Lauren.
Lauren (41:43.244)
No, one thing I was going to... go ahead. Go ahead, Terry.
Lauren (41:58.008)
Well, no, I was just going to say, think nostalgia in general is always going to be there. One of the things that I looked up when I was just like looking up the idea behind nostalgia, right, is it reduces cortisol levels. it, it, yeah. So like just from a psychological standpoint, there's a reason that we, yes, there's a reason that like we're all smiling and laughing when we're talking about this. It makes you kind of feel good. You forget all the bad parts.
Wilhelmina (42:12.042)
Yes, I saw that too. I saw that too.
Teri (42:15.601)
So lean into it.
Wilhelmina (42:18.291)
Mm-hmm.
Vanessa (42:19.495)
Mm-hmm.
Lauren (42:25.974)
of being a teenager and having zits and whatever, all the stressors and things like that, you just like remember the good and it makes you feel good. It reduces your cortisol. So sort of to answer the question you posed, Terry, yeah, I think it's gonna continue. It will just move on in eras.
Wilhelmina (42:42.868)
what era it's doing. Yeah, I read a similar thing where it was saying that, especially during kind of like uncertain times, being able to look back at a safe space and remind us of who we were, who we are, what we value and doing it together is something that does, it's a bonding experience.
Teri (42:42.983)
Mm-hmm.
Lauren (42:54.274)
Yes.
Lauren (43:00.174)
Mm-hmm.
Teri (43:07.942)
Hmm.
Vanessa (43:10.055)
I'm gonna keep wearing my Nirvana sweatshirt then. All right, ladies, that was a great throwback to down memory lane for all of us. And please join us next time on The Shrinked Down. We're gonna be talking about drugs, cigarette use, alcohol use. So next time you join us, that's gonna be our topic. All right, take care, everyone.
Lauren (43:12.591)
There you go. You're very on trend.
Teri (43:16.761)
S.
Lauren (43:23.393)
Mm-hmm
Teri (43:31.845)
tracks.
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