The Billboard Cat Hack, Operation Snow White & The Mind-Reading AI

Show Notes

What do you get when hackers hijack a California billboard to stream cat videos, Scientology infiltrates U.S. government agencies, and Reddit swears that AI is reading everyone’s minds?
You get this week’s Shadow Chat Sessions — a full-throttle ride through the strangest corners of reality, stupidity, and the supernatural.

John dives into the L.A. billboard hack that turned freeway traffic into a feline film festival, exposes the true story behind Operation Snow White, one of the largest domestic infiltration plots in American history, and explores the eerie AI-can-read-your-mind theory that has Reddit losing its collective mind.

Then it’s time for Dipshit Diaries, where the dumb criminal trifecta includes:

• a burglar trapped in a chimney who had to call 911 on himself,

• a DoorDash driver demanding tips at gunpoint, and

• a Florida teen who faked his own abduction so convincingly, he actually shot himself.

And in this week’s Weird Shit, John covers:
👻 The Haunting at the Genesee Theatre — Illinois’ “Man in the Tall Hat” makes another spectral cameo.
⚓ Michigan’s Haunted Museum Ship — ghostly EVPs whisper “Still here.”
🌀 The Return of the Forest Grove Screaming Sound — Oregon’s eerie night wail is back.
🦇 DNA-Confirmed Cryptid Bat of Borneo — science just met folklore face-to-face.
💡 Australia’s Min Min Lights — mysterious orbs chase motorists through the outback once again.

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What is Dark Dialogue: Shadow Chat Sessions?

Shadow Chat Sessions is the off-the-record side of the Dark Dialogue network—where weird headlines, conspiracies, paranormal stories, and truly ridiculous criminals collide.

Hosted by John and Angela, each episode dives into strange news, internet rabbit holes, cryptids, hauntings, and the kind of criminal behavior that makes no sense at all—delivered with sarcastic commentary and zero restraint.

From bizarre real-world stories to eerie legends and unexplained mysteries, Shadow Chat Sessions explores the corners of the world that are too strange to ignore.

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John: Well, hello and welcome
to another episode of Dark

Dialogue Shadow Chat Sessions.

I am your host, John, and my
co-host is gonna need a minute.

For whatever reason, I don't
even understand why that's

funny, but apparently it is.

So

Angela: can't breathe,

John: huh?

You to try this again?

Not quite.

Okay.

I'm Miro John.

And this is the story where
we talk about strange shit.

Weird shit dip shits.

All the shit shits and you just
kinda have a fun time and it, it's

just a bunch of crap that doesn't
really matter, but it sure is fun.

So, you know, we hope that you listeners
have as much fun as we do because I

really enjoy this freaking show, honestly.

So.

Anyway, with that, are you ready
to get started on tonight's show?

Angela: Ready?

John: Alright, you ready for
a strange headline segment?

Yes.

Show a billboard hacked to show cat
videos for six hours on an LA freeway.

Brilliant.

A digital billboard overlooking the
40 freeway in Los Angeles, or the 4

0 5 a digital billboard overlooking
the 4 0 5 freeway in Los Angeles

was hacked and streamed nonstop
cat videos for six straight hours

before technicians regained control.

Commuters in Los Angeles were treated
to an unexpected reprieve from the

usual barrage of luxury car ads
and personal injury lawyers when

a massive billboard began looping.

Endless cat compilations dash cam
videos showed surprise drivers.

Slowing down to record
the spectacle from Katz.

Knocking cups off tables to the
classic keyboard cat revival.

Authorities confirmed the digital board's
remote access system had been compromised,

likely through weak default credentials.

The hacker has not yet been
identified, but locals have

dubbed the incident per gate.

The marketing company responsible
has since changed all their

passwords, presumably to something
other than admin 1, 2, 3.

My take.

You know what?

For six hours, Los Angeles
was actually peaceful.

Traffic still sucked, but at least
everyone was smiling at cats instead

of rage texting about gas prices.

Somewhere, a hacker just wanted
to remind us all that the internet

was supposed to be about joy, not
cryptocurrency scams, or influencer.

Apologies, huh?

Huh?

So do you think that the hacker
did more for Publix morale than

most billboards do all year?

I think so.

I think so too.

Angela: They change it.

John: I know.

I mean, I think this was brilliant.

If you're gonna be a

Angela: joy,

John: if you're gonna be a criminal,
do something cool like this, you know,

Angela: bring us joy.

John: So if a billboard has to be
hacked, shouldn't it always be for cats?

Yes.

I don't know.

I think dogs.

I'm a dog person, but yeah, I'm with

Angela: you.

John: So what are the odds?

This becomes a Netflix documentary
called Metrix Code of the Cat.

Angela: No.

Per gate was better.

John: You like Per eight Better.

Okay, so you're ready
for a conspiracy corner?

Yeah.

Operation Snow White Scientology's
infiltration of US agencies.

In the 1970s, Scientology carried
out the largest known infiltration

of the US government planting
spies and federal offices to steal

and destroy documents critical.

Of the church operation, snow
White began in the mid 1970s under

the direction of the Church of
Scientology's Guardian office.

Headed by Mary Sue Hubbard wife,
offender wife of founder El Ron Hubbard.

Over 5,000 operatives infiltrated
over a hundred US agencies,

including the I-R-S-F-B-I and
Department of Justice, their mission.

To cleanse public records of negative
information about Scientology and

its leader agents stole government
documents, forged IDs, and bugged offices.

The operation unraveled when two
agents were caught inside a federal

building leading to the conviction of 11
high-ranking members, including Mary Sue.

The scandal remains one of the boldest
examples of organized espionage by

a non-state actor in US history.

My take.

Imagine being the FBI and realizing
the people stealing your files.

Weren't Russians just a bunch of self-help
zealots with a typewriter operation?

Snow White proves two things.

One, cults really commit to
their side, to their side quests.

And two, nobody guards.

Nobody guards their filing cabinet
as well as they think they do.

So.

How awkward do you think the job
interviews were for Scientology

spies applying to the IRS?

Angela: Not at all.

John: None at all.

No.

At all.

No.

I mean, if I offend any Scientologists
out there, I'm sorry, but that

is a whacked freaking religion.

L Ron Hubbard was out of his
freaking mind, and I'm telling

you what man, that religion.

Is creepy as shit.

Angela: There's a lot of
creepy stories coming out.

John: Of course.

I don't think any of our listeners
would be Scientologists, because it's

only like the elite of the elite.

I mean, you have to have a
freaking huge ass bank account.

Yeah.

To even be invited in.

You gotta be Tom Cruise or Nicole
Kidman or one of them freaking people.

Angela: Yeah.

And so they.

I don't even begin to understand it.

But aren't there levels
of like, wiping you clean?

John: Oh yeah.

It's, it's,

Angela: and you wouldn't
be listening to podcasts?

John: No.

No.

We we're the devil.

Yeah.

Would this entire operation have
fallen apart in five minutes?

If TikTok existed back then,
yeah, that's a hundred percent.

You know, I don't know because
Scientology is, you did do some things.

Yeah, but Scientology is so secretive, and
I mean, it is, it operates like a cult.

Whether you believe it is or don't
believe it is, that is how it operates.

And they have unbelievable
control of their members.

I mean, some have come out, like
Leah Remy, she come out and he,

she's spoken against it quite
extensively, but for the most part.

People's lips are sealed when it comes to
that freaking religion or whatever it is.

So if you could rename Operation
Snow White, what fairytale

code name would you pick?

My vote.

Operation Dwarfed Ethics.

Angela: I can't think about it wrong.

John: No, that's what we're going with.

I,

Angela: I, yes, I succumb to you.

John: Okay.

You ready for the Reddit rabbit hole?

Yes.

AI can read your mind theory.

Users across Reddit claim that they're
receiving ads for things they've only

thought about but never searched.

Leading to theories that AI
systems can read subconscious cues.

The viral thread on our productivity
cafe began when one user described

getting an ad for a keyboard wrist.

A keyboard, wrist rest.

Wrist rest minutes after merely
thinking about buying one.

Dozens.

Replied with similar stories from being
served ads for a specific meal that

they'd craved or seeing vacuum spots
they daydreamed about or seeing vacation

spots that they daydreamed about.

Theories range from advanced
neural network prediction models

to devices, listening through
background, app permissions.

Experts chimed in explaining that
data aggregation, location, micro

movements, browsing history can.

Easily simulate psychic precision, but
many users weren't convinced arguing.

No algorithm should know
their snack cravings.

Before they do my take, if AI
can really read minds, mind's

in trouble, imagine the.

Imagine the poor machine trying to
parse the chaos of the thoughts.

Like I wonder if raccoons have
favorite garbage flavors and

what's the plural of apocalypse?

More likely it's not reading our minds
just exploiting how predictable we are

Angela: forever.

What's the plural of octopus?

John: And, and there you go.

There's another one.

So would you rather have AI read your
thoughts or your browser history?

Angela: My thoughts?

John: Yeah.

Yeah, mine too.

So is it still targeted advertising?

If it's psychic stalking?

Angela: Hmm.

I think it's creepier than that.

John: It's creepy.

So how long until Alexa just sis and says,
I already ordered it for you, Angela.

Angela: It's already,

John: yeah.

I'm telling you what I, I mean,
I think this shit somehow can be

real because it happens to me.

I'm telling you like these ads
just show up and it's like how?

How did you freaking know?

Because I haven't said anything and I've
only thought about it and I don't know.

Angela: They probably actually
said, oh, my wrist hurts.

John: So there's a theological argument
that like Satan, um, if you believe in

God and Satan and all that stuff, that
Satan doesn't, can't predict the future.

He doesn't know what's coming.

But he's so good at like predicting
what we're going to do just from

what we've already done, that he just
logically knows the future without

knowing the future that could.

Easily be something AI could do.

I mean, right.

If you can compile all this
information that fast and process it

and everything, it's not that hard to
be like, okay, so yesterday John was

searching up a new computer and so
today he's likely gonna be searching

up something to go with it, whatever.

I don't know.

I, yeah, I'm.

Drawing a blank here, but you
know what I'm trying to say.

Yeah.

Like it just looks at your
behaviors and just says, okay.

So usually John makes hamburgers about
this time of the month, so probably

he's gonna be craving a hamburger.

I don't know.

I'm just spit balling
here, but I All right.

You ready for the dip shits diary?

Sure.

Alright.

Number one, burglar stuck in a chimney.

Calls 9 1 1 for rescue.

In California a burglar attempting
to sneak into a home through the

chimney, got hopelessly wedged
and had to call 9 1 1 on himself.

Neighbors heard muffled cries around
3:00 AM and thought that it was a cat.

Instead, firefighters arrived to
find a man dangling upside down

inside a narrow chimney shaft.

He'd been trapped for hours after trying
to stand to his way in the rescue.

Took nearly two hours requiring
dismantling part of the fireplace.

He was treated for dehydration,
bruises, and let's be honest, shame.

My take.

There's breaking and entering, and then
there's breaking and breaking yourself.

If he wanted to drop in
uninvited, there were easier

ways, like being an MLM recruiter

Angela: AW

horse.

John: So do you think firefighters
silently judged him the whole time?

Angela: Probably not so silently.

John: I bet not so silently that they
were laughing their asses off at this guy.

Angela: There were
probably Benny pictures.

John: Oh yeah, for sure.

Yeah.

So should Santa Claus
press copyright charges?

Yeah, a hundred percent agree.

And for the record, don't
climb down chimneys.

It never ends well, unless you're Santa.

He's the only one that
can get away with that.

The only

one,

and it's like the magic thing where
makes himself skinny and all that.

You know, if you're not magic, you're
not gonna pull it off just saying.

So is chimney extraction?

Is chimney extraction fee going
to be a new crime scene surcharge?

Angela: It should be right
there with legal fees a

John: hundred percent.

I believe that if this guy, I believe
this guy should get a bill from the

fire department for whatever it costs
to get his sorry ass outta the chimney

and a bill to rebuild the chimney
and everything associated with it.

Yeah, a hundred percent.

And I think every criminal
should have to pay.

For catching them.

They should have to pay the whatever the
cops spent by catching their sorry asses.

Mm-hmm.

All right, number two, DoorDash
Driver demands extra tip at gunpoint.

A Washington's delivery driver returned
to a customer's home, furious over a

small tip, and demanded more while armed.

According to police, the driver
delivered food earlier in the evening

and then returned hours later with
a handgun insisting the customer.

Fix that tip.

The customer who happened to be a former
Marine disarmed him before calling 9 1 1.

DoorDash quickly banned the driver
and returned the order while social

social media had a field day.

Dubbing it.

DoorDash Extreme Edition.

My take, nothing says service with a smile
like armed grad gratuity negotiation.

Somewhere, a marketing intern
is pitching DoorDash Plus

now with adrenaline delivery.

So

I mean, how small was this tip to risk?

To risk Prison time?

I mean, yeah.

What was it like a penny?

12 cents.

Come on.

Angela: He supported for trouble.

John: But I gotta say, I have thought
about this shit with DoorDash, with,

uh, Uber, with all of these things.

I mean, there was, when I was in
Denver, there was an Uber driver

that shot, um, his passenger.

I think the passenger attacked
him and he did it in self-defense.

But still, yeah, I mean, there's a lot
of horror stories, like women being

raped by Uber drivers and shit like that.

You know, with like DoorDash
and these people that are coming

to your house all the time.

I don't know, man.

It's just, I don't know.

Angela: I have never once
ordered it to my home.

John: I have a lot, but to my home.

When I lived in, when I lived in
Colorado, I ordered DoorDash a lot.

Angela: Also out in the middle of nowhere.

No one's coming out there.

True.

John: Yeah.

Angela: So, but yeah, I have
ordered it to hotels though.

John: Should customers start tipping
in hugs just to see what happens?

Angela: Yes.

No.

I mean, that's Jeremy and I don't wanna,

John: this, this whole, this whole tipping
thing has gotten totally out of control.

Everybody doesn't deserve a tip.

I don't care.

Certain professions.

I tip, I tip waitresses and stuff like
that, but I am so freaking sick and

tired of the tip screen coming up.

Every time anybody runs my card,
like if I go into a store and

the clerk runs my card, it shows
up and asks if I want to tip.

No, I don't want tip.

They didn't do anything.

I mean, they just did their job.

That was it.

That was all.

And they took my money
and gave me a product.

I, why am I gonna tip?

They

Angela: had to go find the product.

John: Yes.

It's insane to me.

Everybody has a tip thing come up.

Angela: Yeah.

Drives me crazy.

Doesn't you Can't tip people
to shop for you at Walmart.

If you do like a pickup outside,
you can't tip those people.

John: Oh, those

Angela: people.

I would tip.

John: Wow.

I didn't realize that.

Angela: Well, I mean, you can try,
but they're not allowed to accept it.

John: Huh?

Angela: So, yeah.

John: So how long until this
guy's story becomes a Lifetime

movie called Tipped Over the Edge?

It's probably already
probably in the works already.

Yeah,

Angela: probably already in casting.

John: Oh, I'm sure you're probably right.

Dip she Diary number three, Florida
Teen fakes his own abduction,

shoots himself in a hoax.

A 17-year-old in Florida staged
a fake kidnapping, even wounding

himself to make it look real.

After the teen's family
reported him missing.

Police found him hours later
with a superficial gunshot wound.

He admitted to fabricating
the entire abduction to gain

attention from an ex-girlfriend.

The teen now faces charges
for filing false reports and

unlawful discharge of a firearm.

Authorities say that he's lucky
to be alive and even luckier.

His ex didn't text him
back during the hoax.

My take Aha.

Young Love, nothing says, please
take me back like a self-inflicted

gunshot wound and a felony record.

Romeo had a balcony.

This guy had bad aim.

So, is emotional damage now
an official Florida export?

It probably, I think it probably is.

I mean,

Angela: I, you'll have to tip for

John: it too.

You probably have to tip for it too.

So how do you even start explaining
this one to your parents?

Just Don.

I mean, I gotta say I'm concerned about
this kid and I'm not so sure that we're

not gonna be doing an episode on him in
the future on one of our darker shows,

because this is, I mean, to say it's
extreme behavior is an understatement.

Angela: I think that's on that.

John: Only if you're disagreeing with me,
because, no, I mean with the listeners.

Oh, yes.

Okay, sure.

I mean.

This is creepy.

If you're willing to shoot yourself to
get a girl's attention, you are a stalker.

I don't give a shit.

Angela: No.

There's a harsher word than stalker.

I don't know what it is right now, but

John: I mean, it is weird a shit.

Yeah.

Should ex-girlfriends have a
restraining order and a sarcasm award?

I think so too.

I mean,

Angela: not just like girlfriends though.

Boyfriends too.

John: Oh, a hundred percent.

Not gender.

100%

Angela: specific thing.

John: But yeah, this, this girl
probably needs to think of a

restraining order at this point.

This kid is a lunatic.

Period.

Okay, you ready for
the weird shit section?

Weird shit.

Number one.

Paranormal.

The haunting at the Genesee Theater.

During the 2025 Halloween ghost walk at
Illinois Genesee Theater visitors captured

what appeared to be a translucent figure
of the man in the tall hat, a recurring

apparition scene since the 1940s.

The Genesee Theater in Waukegan,
Illinois is best known for its ornate

architecture and life performances.

But lately it's been stealing
headlines for its ghostly Encore

acts during the October 25.

October, 2025 Ghost walk.

Several attendees claim to see a tall
shadowy man wearing an old fashioned hat.

Moving across the balcony.

Video footage showed a hazy human-like
shape drifting near the curtains

just before flickering lights sent
the crowd into a collective gasp.

Local historians say that
the man in the tall hat.

That the man in the tall hat legend dates
back to stagehand reports in the 1940s

when a worker supposedly fell to his death
from the catwalk During a show, paranormal

investigators have since recorded cold
spots, footsteps, and the eerie scent of

cigar smoke lingering and empty corridors.

My take.

Nothing says date night, like paying
30 bucks to possibly get haunted by

a chain smoking ghost in formal wear.

If the afterlife includes
usher duty, count me out.

Angela: I would actually go on that date.

I'm sorry.

I will.

John: I know you would.

So would you rather see a ghost or
realize you paid for a fake one?

I'd rather see one.

I would like to see one.

I don't this, there's some convincing
shit with this story I gotta say.

So I wanna go.

Why do ghosts always dress like
they're going to a 1940s dinner party?

Angela: Right.

I don't understand that.

John: Yeah.

And if he was a stage N that fell from
the balcony, I can almost guarantee he was

not wearing a top hat when he was working.

So what's up with that?

Angela: Unless he was like playing with
costumes, but, and that's why we fell.

I, I'm,

John: I don't, I that you know
as much of the story as I do's.

Angela: True.

Why aren't they always just

John: formal?

Angela: Exactly.

John: Yeah.

If cigar smoking ghosts exist,
do we need ghost fire alarms?

Angela: Um.

John: I mean, that is a thing, and
I have smelled it with pipe smoke.

Yeah.

Not with cigar smoke, but I have, I have
had paranormal smoke smells, perfume.

Yeah.

It's, I, I totally believe it.

I've experienced myself.

No, I cannot explain it.

Weird shit.

Number two, DNA confirms a new
crypted bat species in Borneo.

Once dismissed as Jungle folklore.

The wooly wing bat of Borneo has been
confirmed by DNA testing as a new

species, unlike anything known to
science for generations, villagers

near Saba whispered about Bulu siap.

Sure or the bat with fur wings.

An odd creature said to have the face of a
fox and the flight pattern of a butterfly.

In 2025, researchers conducting
biodiversity surveys, captured a

specimen and found its genetic profile,
didn't match any existing genus.

The creature had fur extending over
its wings, like down feathers, huge

reflective eyes, and a shrill call that.

Echoed for miles crypto crypto zoologists
are now split between scientific

excitement and smug self-congratulation.

The discovery redefines local
folklore, blending myth, and biology

in one furry nocturnal package.

My take.

So the crypted guys finally got one right?

Turns out, if you look long enough,
sometimes the monster is just a

weird bat with great hair somewhere.

Moth man is jealous.

Angela: Dallas assume commercial.

John: So at what point does a
crypted just become an animal

that we haven't found yet,

Angela: that that.

John: That's the point right there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm drawing a line and, and it's like
I've said a million times, like I totally

believe there's all kinds of creatures
out there that we haven't seen yet.

I just don't believe
that they live in Oregon.

So do you think Portland is weird?

Portland?

I know there's definitely creatures in
Portland that, oh, you make a good point.

I stand corrected.

Do you think this bat has an agent yet
for its inevitable documentary deal.

Angela: But there's
people trying to find it.

John: Oh, you better damn
well believe there is.

So would the Wooly Wing bat make a
good metal band name or shampoo line?

Angela: I like the band name.

John: I like the band name too.

Yeah, I can

Angela: see the, if there were
album covers still, right?

John: Exactly.

Angela: Concert t-shirts and what?

John: A hundred percent the Holy Wing bat.

Angela: Let's put it on
a Dark dialogue shirt.

John: Perfect.

Let's do it.

Wooly Wing bat.

Weird shit.

Number three, forest Grove screaming
Sound returns after seven years.

Circle Bra.

The infamous high-pitched.

Well that haunted Forest Grove, Oregon
in 2016 has mysteriously returned

baffling residents and scientists alike.

Back in 2016, the quiet suburb of
Forest Grove made national headlines.

When residents began hearing an.

Ears splitting shriek late at night.

The sound was described as a dying
mechanical animal and could be heard

for miles after weeks of investigation.

Authorities never identified the source.

It simply stopped.

But in late 2025, the
screams have returned.

Audio recordings posted
online show the same.

Fluctuating metallic tone.

Theories range from industrial equipment
malfunctions to underground seismic

vents, but others insist it's something
else, perhaps natural, perhaps not.

The city is, again, under an eerie,
sleepless cloud of confusion.

I. My take.

Imagine trying to get some sleep and
suddenly the gates of hell decide to

rehearse a flute solo outside your window.

Oregon's unofficial new state bird
is apparently the existential scream.

Angela: It's Holy wing bat.

John: Maybe it is the wooly wing bat.

Angela: We've killed two
birds with one stone.

John: So what is up with Oregon?

I want what is up with this shit?

Angela: It's in,

John: it's like, it's like Florida.

It's the two corners of, you know, I mean,
I realize Oregon's below Washington, but

it's the, the two corners of this country
are like competing for the craziest shit.

Angela: Oregon looked at
Florida and said, hold my beer.

John: Exactly.

So how many nights of that sound before
you just start sleeping with noise

Cancelling headphones and whiskey One.

Yeah, I mean when I lived in
Montana, I had a freaking screech

owl that lived outside my window.

Have you ever heard one
of them godforsaken?

The critters?

Yeah.

Yeah.

They are the worst.

Of course.

I've never heard the this weird
ass shit, but from what I've

experienced, they're awful.

Angela: I'm gonna go look up the sound.

I'm sure somebody's probably post,

John: I'm sure I didn't look it up, but
I'm, there's videos out there for sure.

There's like news coverage of it.

Angela: Yeah.

John: So would calling Ghostbusters or
an HVAC technician be more effective?

Angela: I was gonna say Steve
Irwin, but I figured you'd yell it.

John: Steve Irwin.

Give me a break.

Okay.

I mean, to delve into the
conspiracy corner a little bit.

It wouldn't surprise me if it's like some
strange government bullshit or something

that they're doing and not telling
any about anybody about, I don't know.

Angela: It's, it's ai.

John: It's like the strange
hum and Taos, the same thing.

We covered that several episodes ago, but
it's this, it's the same kind of thing.

I don't freaking know

Angela: ing on here to see how you react.

John: Probably.

All right.

Weird shit.

Number four.

Michigan Museum Ship records,
disembodied voices during the 2025

Michigan Paranormal Convention Ghost
Hunters aboard the museum ship.

Sixth recorded chilling EVPs
electronic voice phenomena.

That said, still here
docked in Salt State Marie.

The retired Freighter Valley camp
has long been a maritime museum

honoring great lake sailors.

But this August during an overnight
paranormal investigation, guess caught

whispering voices on digital recorders.

One EVP clearly muttered.

Still here, followed by a faint
tapping noise on the hall.

Investigators noted that the
area corresponds with where two

crewmen perished in a 1940s boiler
accident visitors later reported

a sense of unease and sudden
temperature drops in the lower decks.

Scientists call it, scientists call it.

Alia are brains forcing patterns from
static, but believers insist something

unseen is calling from below my take.

Nothing says fun vacation,
like sleeping in a rust bucket,

whispering, ghostly, boiler talk.

You pretty sure if I heard still
here in the dark, I'd become a human

torpedo straight off of that deck.

Angela: I'm not gonna lie,
I probably wouldn't hear.

John: That would creep me the hell out.

Yeah.

So why do ghosts always
choose ships in basements?

Never say sunny beaches.

Angela: They'll burn.

They'll

John: sunburn.

They'll sunburn, but they don't
drown if they're underwater or what.

Okay.

So if ghosts can talk through
recorders, do they know about podcasts?

Angela: Yes.

John: Do you think we have
listeners on the other side?

I hope so.

I hope so too.

Send

Angela: me a sign.

John: Send it to her,

Angela: but don't say still here.

'cause that's just boring.

John: I don't think that's boring at all.

That would freak me out.

Angela: I want 'em to say
something more profound.

John: Hmm.

So not only do you want messages
from ghosts, but they have

to fit a certain criteria.

Angela: Well, they have to, if
they're listening to the podcast

and they're sending us messages.

I want something about the podcast.

John: Perfect.

Angela: I want fruit.

John: So would you still pay for a haunted
cruise if it came with free breakfast?

Angela: Yeah.

John: Oh, I know you would.

Angela: No, I would.

John: I, yeah.

You'd probably pay double
for a haunted cruise.

Eat

Angela: breakfast, the haunted cruise.

John: I'm there.

I mean, I would definitely check this out.

The one thing that bothers me is.

It's paranormal investigators and I
always approach them with a little

bit of trepidation because they
have something to gain from this.

For sure.

I never know what to believe
and what not to believe.

I don't

Angela: let me go.

John: You don't what?

I

Angela: don't have anything to gain.

Let's go.

John: Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, something like that would
be more believable, but you know,

like, have you ever downloaded
like one of those EVP app things?

Mm-hmm.

And they're phony as shit.

Yeah.

Because you, you do it and then
it, it always catches, it always

catches something and it's
like, oh, this is such bullshit.

Yeah.

You know?

And so it can easily be faked.

I just, I never know what to believe.

Angela: And AI's making it worse.

John: Oh, a ai is making it way worse.

So.

Yeah.

An interesting thing came up on the
news and I wasn't able to watch it.

I could just see the headline, but
it was something along the lines

of like, a real problem that we're
coming up with is if you confess

to ai, is it admissible in court?

Ooh.

Right.

Oh,

just an interesting thought
experiment for you there.

I didn't come up with it.

It was on newsmax, but I thought that
was rather an interesting conundrum

that we might be facing before long.

Weird shit.

Number five, Australian men.

Men lights chase motorists again.

Again, the mysterious,
glowing orbs known as the men.

Men lights have reappeared
in Outback Queensland.

Reportedly following cars before
vanishing into the desert night.

For over a century, Australians
traveling through the channel country

region have reported spectral balls of
light appearing along deserted roads.

The orbs hover dart and sometimes chase
vehicles for miles before blinking out

in 2025, new footage from dash cams
reignited debate over two glowing spheres.

Followed by a pair of truckers near bulia.

Indigenous Lord describes the
men, men as spirits of the dead

guiding or warning travelers.

Skeptics suggest atmospheric
reflections, ball, lightning or mirage

caused by temperature, inversions,
whatever the case, the footage shows

orbs moving independently defying
logical patterns and spooking.

Everyone involved.

My take, Australia already has spiders.

The size of dinner plates, snakes
that fly and kangaroos that can

beat up a marine, apparently
glowing death balls wore the miss.

Were the missing piece.

Angela: That was the last straw.

John: That was the last straw.

This

Angela: was the last song.

And I'm actually upset with you
because that's exactly the thing I was

thinking is they have huge fingers.

John: Yes.

They

Angela: worried about life.

John: Well then the snakes, I'm way
more scared of snakes than spiders and

man, they got like the, some of the
deadliest snakes in the world down there.

No.

Angela: Yeah.

John: Nope.

Angela: I struggle with Australia.

John: I mean, I think
it's an awesome country.

I know I would love to go there, but some
of the critters there flat freak me out.

Angela: I wanna go, but I don't wanna go.

In the exact same.

John: I understand.

Angela: Yeah.

John: Why are mysterious lights
never guiding people to Taco

Bell instead of to dooms?

Angela: Because people are all
stealing ambulances to taco.

John: This is true.

I mean, I don't know what
to think about this one.

Honestly, I don't, these, these weird
orbs that are caught in the sky.

Mm-hmm.

I mean, I don't know if it's some
kind of extraterrestrial shit.

I don't know if it's paranormal.

I, I don't believe it's like ball
lightning or something like that.

The weird part about this shit is
possibly, but not for over a century.

The weird part about this shit is it
keeps reappearing in the same places, skin

Walker Ranch and this place in Australia.

I mean, sure.

And it seems to be linked to certain
areas and it reappears there over

and over again, which really is
an argument against it being like.

A mass delusion or something
like that, especially when it

lasts for over a century, right?

I don't know what the hell
it is, but I don't believe

it's easily explainable away.

I mean, you can see
videos of these things.

It isn't ball lightning.

It's not like light reflecting or
none of the bullshit that people say.

It's something that we
don't know or understand.

Yeah, I can't, I don't know what
the hell it is, but probably

Angela: not meant.

John: Yeah.

Angela: Yet,

John: so would you follow a glowing orb
if it promised to lead you to a free wifi?

Angela: I don't need the wifi.

I would just follow it and
find out what's happening.

John: I would definitely follow it.

Angela: You're asking me
a lot of questions tonight

that you know the answers to.

John: This is true.

This is true.

Is it possible Australia just glitched
and forgot to load its sky textures?

Angela: Yeah.

John: Yeah.

I think it probably is in the matrix.

Angela: And Neo was sleeping.

John: Neil was sleeping.

Yeah.

That's ball.

That's what happens.

All right.

And there is the.

Black screen, which means that's
all I put together for us tonight.

So do you have anything to add?

I do not.

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