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what is up everybody and welcome to the
united states department of nerds where we
are for the people by the people and
of the people what if the thing hunting
you
was never meant to exist.
What if your soul was already claimed?
A young woman haunted by visions,
a presence watching from the shadows and
something far worse closing in.
Not a demon, not a beast,
but something twisted in between.
The Jackal Bunny sent by the Prince of
Hell to collect what is owed.
Tonight we step into a world
where identity fractures,
fear becomes reality,
and survival means confronting the
darkness within.
Because this isn't just a story about
horror,
it's a story about what happens when your
very soul is the target.
today we're stepping into the world of
indie horror with creator kevin davis the
mind behind skin shifter volume one a
supernatural story where identity fear and
survival collide ladies and gentlemen the
council of nerds is now in session kevin
welcome to the usdn hey thanks for having
me man absolutely dude you've been on the
the schedule for a hot minute now
But if you're ready,
we'll dive right on in.
And you can start by telling us who
is Kevin Davis?
Well, first, I'm Kevin Davis.
I am a comic creator, comic writer,
entrepreneur.
I've been called a goal giver because I
tend to do a lot of things and
have a lot of hats.
Because outside of publishing,
I also make apparel,
like shoes and shirts and everything.
And I also make my own
I'm working on my own beverage company.
So I do a lot of different things
back and forth.
But most importantly,
I am a mental health advocate as well.
And I am just, I love creating.
And so I dab my hands into different
things to challenge myself.
That is a lot of hats, dude.
A lot of hats.
Yeah.
In the middle of all those things,
you were inspired to create Skinshifter.
What exactly inspired this one?
So Skinshifter is based on my novel called
Jackal Bunny that that's on Amazon.
But I really love diving into like
psychological thrillers and like horror,
like horror.
Like I grew up with like when one
of my inspirations,
like if you're a wrestling fan, you know,
Bray Wyatt, the Fiend.
Oh, yeah, of course.
He's been one of my inspirations.
Rest in peace to him.
And I love movies like Split and the
Unbreakable Trilogy.
And then also I love like Nightmare on
Elm Street with the dreams with Freddy
Krueger and everything.
And so I get like different inspiration
from so many things at once.
And I just want to like dabble into
each concept and make my own thing with
it.
And I specifically went with the
Jackalbunny because that was a couple of
years ago.
a movie called Jackals came out or like
streaming or something.
Yeah.
And one of the,
one of the horror characters was the woman
with the bunny mask on.
And so I was like,
can I do a horror bunny type of
story, but not like this,
but more of a,
in more of a supernatural universe.
Yeah.
And so I was like, maybe.
And so I was like,
I brushed it off for a little while.
I'm like, we'll see.
We'll see.
But then it kept coming back to me
and I kept thinking about it.
I kept thinking about it.
I was like, okay,
what can I do with this?
Like, well,
how can I make it like a psychological
bunny story that's not seen before,
but that's, um, but that's,
that's not done the same way as other,
like other animal type of horror story has
been.
Yeah.
And so I was like, okay.
Um,
and so I started like writing different
storylines, like I was like,
I'm like, okay, that's okay.
That's okay.
I'm like,
but it's not going where I want it
to go yet.
And I went like a hundred drafts until
I finally cracked it.
It's like, oh yeah,
let me do some type of alter ego
type of story where the villain has that
alter ego.
So the human version of Jackal Bunny is
Sabrina Jackal.
And Sabrina Jackal also has her own story
of how she became the Jackal Bunny that
you will see in the Skinshifter comic.
So it's like I got so many different
inspirations.
Because I grew up loving horror and
fantasy.
Of course,
I stuck around as a kid watching horror.
I got in trouble for it,
but I kept going.
Because I gravitated towards it.
And I've realized that's one of my strong
suits is writing horror.
And I really enjoy doing it.
And then I grew up watching a show,
Supernatural, Sleepy Hollow,
and those different type of shows and
movies that really inspired Skinshifter
and inspired my craft of writing.
feel like i've seen something recently
that uh sleepy hollow might be getting
another reboot but i'm not a hundred
percent positive on that one because that
one was really good and i really felt
i feel like it didn't get the love
or the finish that it deserved i agree
i agree but um so what exactly
Is the Jackal bunny in your story?
Is it a person with a mask or
is it a demon with the persona?
Okay.
So like when I said the alter ego,
so it's,
it's a human slash like a demon persona.
Okay.
So the human version is Sabrina Jackal,
but the Jackal bunny is also a spirit
that
Uh, that's in Sabrina Jackal.
I'm not, I'm not,
I'm trying not to spoil it.
Yeah, no, no.
I don't want you to spoil it, but,
but I will say Sabrina Jackal and the
Jackal bunny have separate stories of how
they became together.
Okay.
I will say that.
Gotcha.
Okay.
But Sabrina Jackal and Jackal bunny are
two different entities, but in one.
gotcha gotcha now that's really
interesting and you got stories for both
the demon and the person themselves that's
really cool oh yeah but why combine
something as innocent as a bunny with
something so sinister um because i
honestly truly believe everything has a
dark side to them if you just bring
it out uh find ways to bring it
out uh like because i'm like it's a
balance because
good and evil, it's a balance to me.
I'm like,
everyone has a dark side in them
somewhere.
That's why I chose the bunny.
I'm like,
you've seen the dark monkeys and the
hippos and the lions.
I'm like, I wanted to do something that's
not really done as much like so i
chose the money well we're getting another
hippo here soon with yeah did you see
the preview for that yet i did i
did i saw that i actually kind of
liked the concept of it like because it's
yeah it's like based off the game hungry
hungry hippos but it gives it this really
awesome dark twist and they put it in
new orleans and the swaps look new
Oh, well.
Oh, yeah.
It is very interesting.
Yeah, no,
that one's going to be a good one,
I think.
I'm hoping.
I'm definitely interested, though.
Oh, yeah.
I'm not sure if that's part of, like,
the Mattel, like,
lineup because Mattel didn't make the
game, Hungry Hungry Hippos.
So I don't know if this is a
part of, like,
the Barbies and I know there's a Hot
Wheels movie coming out.
I don't know if this falls within that
or not or if this was just, like,
You know,
I don't think we need the poo blood
and honey, you know,
I'm not a hundred percent sure.
Yeah.
I don't think it's going to tell anything,
especially since it's a horror movie.
I don't think it is,
but you never really know.
Exactly.
Exactly.
But, um, so what, what,
what will set your villain apart from
traditional horror antagonist?
Other than a cute bunny mask.
I think what would set her apart is
I think she's one of the most
unpredictable.
You think you know it's going to go
one route,
but it's going to go a whole different
route compared to other villains.
And then also this villain you won't have
any sympathy for.
I'm purposely making sure she's not
likable.
Yeah.
I'm always a villain guy,
so that might be somewhere you might
potentially like her.
Yeah.
But I like stories that makes you have
your own imagination with,
that makes you like...
Question what's going on,
but also predict what's going on,
if that makes sense.
Some people are like,
I don't care for a backstory of the
villain.
I just freaking love the villain.
That's because of what they're doing.
I'm the opposite because I like to know
where the villain is coming from and what
drives them to this.
You will know that, though.
For the most part,
you will be mostly on the other side
of things.
I want to beer her up.
I will show a backstory of why
Sabrina Jackal and Jackabon are the way
they are for those that want to know
that story.
But for now,
what I'm trying to build them up is
like for you to see what what the
heck they are right now.
So like I'm excited for we all know
the story of Jason Voorhees and how he
became Jason Voorhees.
But with the new TV series of Camp
Crystal Lake,
I'm excited to see what else because we
know the kid was tormented.
We know he drowned and then was brought
back.
kind of want to like i'm really interested
to see those early years before you know
as he arrives to crystal lake kind of
like how his life was like so that
one really has me intrigued because i do
like a good backstory with the villain
like i love you know you know when
we finally learn who freddy krueger really
is i love learning about who and why
the um
and head and those guys are you know
i really enjoyed those backstories to
those characters and how they became who
they are and what they are it i
just love a good character i want to
know the reason of the character and the
why they are the why they are you
know so well you definitely will see the
both story of a civilian and a jackal
bonnie um i will say that won't be
a spin-off backstory you actually see that
in the comic itself i won't do like
a full flash that's cool
No, that's really cool.
I'm just going to show you the backstory
of both characters from where they're from
and how they became who they are.
Yeah.
No, I like that.
So when readers first experience the
Jackal Bunny,
what do you want them to feel the
first time they encounter it?
Well, one,
I want you to feel the emotion of
the characters of each character because
each character I try to make important.
I don't have like one lead in support.
I want each character to be relatable
somehow.
And also don't try not to trust everybody
in the story.
Yeah.
Um, but also, um,
does have a blast with it.
Uh, if you get scared,
that's a bonus for me.
Um,
but I really just want you to have
fun with it.
Um,
and this is just chapter one of skin
shifter for this Kickstarter coming, uh,
launching around June, July ish.
Okay.
And then at first I was going to
do,
I was going to list like the full
graphic novel, but, um,
I can't ask with them.
So this Kickstarter chapter one,
and then the next skateshifter will be the
fourth list, uh, graphic novel,
chapter one to give you a taste of
this, of the, uh, this story.
Yeah.
And so it was about third of.
Forty something pages for chapter one,
I believe.
my artist is working on it so i
kind of lost count yeah um so i'd
say about thirty forty pages for chapter
one and then around next year the full
flash graphic novel will be roughly a
hundred something pages that's not bad
yeah that's maybe i think close to what
babies maybe
Cause it's going to be,
cause I'm turning my full novel of jackal
bunny to this, to the graphic novel.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
So that's probably about five or six
issues in the graphic novel version.
And I chose to do it this way
because one,
I love a good paperback and I really
didn't just love the way it comes out.
And I was like,
I want to transition from those floppies
into a full fledged paperback hard covers.
because I love holding those so much more
than holding the floppy.
And I say, OK,
I'm going to watch chapter one.
Even chapter one is going to be a
paperback by itself, just with thirty,
forty pages.
So that's a paperback by itself.
It's not a floppy.
And then the graphic novel is going to
be much thicker because it's more pages
and more of the story.
Yeah.
I'm with you.
I'm kind of torn, though.
I love floppies.
A, because it's easier to store them.
But also,
I love a good trade paperback because I
can sit down and read an entire arc
of a story.
I get torn because I like to read
it issue by issue.
But then when the paperback comes out or
the hardback or whatever it is for that
arc,
I also really just enjoy reading
everything in one go as well.
Don't get me wrong.
I will still have single issues just for
those who might want the single issues
with different covers.
I'll have them split like one, two, three,
four, five,
and six where each have an individual
cover and then just a full-fledged trade
paperback of the graphic novel.
You can get the graphic novel or you
can get all six single issues.
I try to reach both sides of things.
That's a good way to do it.
But let's talk about Amaya because she is
the poor young lady whose soul is not
hers.
But who is Amaya at the start of
this story?
So Amaya Fitzgerald,
she's just a young college,
young college girl trying to live her
life, do her studies, have a good time.
And just,
she's raised like an introverted
character, introverted person.
They're like, they like her.
She likes her own company.
And she's like,
she has good friends and everything.
And she just started like trying to live
her life for some odd reason.
One day, uh, she's like sitting, uh,
this is like the beginning of the chapter
one.
I'm going to say it like she's just
sitting, reading, writing,
like sitting at the tree.
And then her friend Chris comes up and
invites her to a party.
Of course she was hesitant because she
doesn't party.
What is Chris?
It's her best friend.
And so she said, yes.
And then so she,
as soon as she leaves,
you see the Jackaboy sitting at a bench,
looking straight at her.
And she gets this chill feeling.
It's like, okay, that person's creepy.
Why the heck is she staring at me
for?
And then Jackaboy disappears next scene.
And I'm like, is she seeing stuff?
Or was Jackaboy actually right there?
So that's where it is.
That's where the story begins.
You get straight into the action of the
story instantly.
And so Amaya,
you learned Amaya is being hunted by Jacob
Bonnie because she was sent from because
Jacob Bonnie was sent from hell by the
Prince of Hell called the Corpus Fiend.
And so you will see the Corpus Fiend
in chapter one of it.
Yeah,
you will see a glimpse of the Corpus
Fiend.
Um, I believe you actually,
you actually wrote a little bit of Jack
one story in chapter one, two, probably.
I believe I made sure I put police
story in there.
Um, Maya is just an innocent, um, so,
but you're going to keep crushing.
Okay.
Why does this Corpus thing want her so
badly?
Yeah.
And why does he continue to send this
job?
That's actually my very next question.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sorry.
What was the question?
What's the next question?
Why is she the target?
You have that?
I can't say cause you have to read
it.
Fair enough.
That was for the story.
Um, I can't go into detail,
but I will say, um,
I can't say that.
I can't say that.
It's some type of deal that her parents
had made that once she becomes a certain
age, that's what I'm guessing.
That's what I like.
That's what I wanted.
I literally read comic books and talk
about comic books for a living.
For me, it's kind of like
when i see a story like this and
a young lady is being targeted by the
prince of hell my mind immediately goes
what the hell did the parents do what
did her parents get in for her soul
at a certain age in time i will
i will say it does deal with her
parents but not in the way you think
knew it yeah but it's not in it's
not in the way you think it's not
the typical way because that's been told
like so many times yeah
That's why that's where my head went.
I see the synopsis of the story.
You're on the right track a bit because
you got the parents part right,
but it's not that reasoning.
That's the fact that you have an
imagination to predict that.
That's what makes me really excited that
you get to read the story and learn
what's going to happen.
I think any comic book reader has the
imagination to
yeah as we were reading through like maybe
it's an upcoming foc and there's new
titles coming out and you know they give
you the synopsis of a story and you're
like
that's going to be good.
I got a feeling it's going to be
this or this in this story.
And, you know,
I will pick up a comic book simply
based on that.
And unless it's a certain, you know,
writer.
And then I'm just like,
I already know that story is going to
be good because this certain writer is
writing that story.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh yeah.
I should guess go back to your original
question.
What I want the readers to feel when
they read the question is like,
that's exactly how I want you to get
that imagination because guess what's
going to happen.
No,
it's kind of like as I read a
page of a comic book,
I'm kind of like, okay,
my mind immediately starts going like,
okay,
how much of this can I predict off
of this?
And your imagination just starts running
wild.
And
and i'm a very like thorough reader i
don't just read the comic book i study
the comic book i look for context within
the art yeah i i go all in
for you know these kinds of things and
um that's one of the main reasons i
love comic books so much is because you
can do that you may be wrong
you know we by the time you get
to the end of that that you know
issue but it's never a bad thing that
you were wrong because the whole time
you're like as you're reading you're like
oh yeah i knew that i kind of
nailed that then you get to the last
page of and you're like
these motherfuckers appreciate me.
Let's go.
It's you too, man.
Let's go.
Yeah, exactly.
I love books like that.
There's been so many of them over the
last year and a half where it's just
been like the cliffhangers they're giving
us,
the directions they're taking stories and
you're just like, yeah,
I got to wait a whole month or
I got to wait another two weeks and
depending on the schedule of the book,
and you're just like, come on.
It's one of those where you're also happy
that it's not a weekly book because that
would just be like, jeez,
especially at the prices they are right
now.
I'd be going broke trying to read them
if it was weekly.
How is she going to evolve throughout this
story, Amaya?
Okay.
Well,
she's going to evolve we know she's this
like introverted college student but you
know every character is going to go
through this evolution of who they are
right oh yeah oh yeah um well first
she's gonna where she evolves she's gonna
learn about the secrets her parents kept
from her i will say because there are
a lot of secrets that's been kept from
her yeah um she's gonna learn uh it's
like
If we talked off camp,
but if you like, you're, you know,
you know how both feet of vampires are,
how she, how she, um, became like the,
the tense character and like close to, uh,
as the season evolves.
So Maya is going to become,
she starts off as an introvert,
but as she learns about the secrets as
gonna come out she's gonna she's gonna be
one of those badass uh characters like uh
buffy and like um like even like a
bit of a tomb raider because and um
and so many other characters uh like yeah
eleven from that strong female yeah yeah i
love those types of evolutions yeah even
like eleven from stranger things
Yeah.
So, um, so that's,
so that's kind of give you like a
clue of where the stories would go.
Hit, hit.
Um, but I like it, dude.
I like it.
Yeah.
But, uh,
let's just say she's not going to be
an introvert for long.
Well, she's still gonna be an introvert,
but she's going to like that type of
introvert that's stronger and more has
more discipline and boundaries.
Cause she, you would not be able to,
she would not be able to really trust
much people or things.
And that's the story of progresses.
I like the way especially characters like
that that start out as this shy
introverted individual and then by the end
of it they're just like this seasoned
like, hard-ass, you know, who can go.
But they're also still that shy,
introverted person until it's like, oh,
okay, hang on one second, you know?
Exactly.
Exactly.
And then when, like,
this kickstart chapter one,
when the full-fledged graphic novel come
out, that's just the first arc of Amaya,
and you're going to see her growth a
lot more in just the first arc.
which is about, like I said,
about five or six issues in the graphic
novel.
Okay.
And by one graphic novel.
Okay.
And...
I think it's one of the best stories
I've written so far because I've had so
much fun writing this and planning it out.
That's the key right there, man.
How much fun are you having yourself as
you write something?
I get the opportunity to talk to so
many creators,
both from the art world and the writer
world.
And it's like one of the biggest things
is they're always enjoying what they're
doing.
art and you know I see like people
talking to like artists from that work on
Marvel in DC and for them they're just
kind of like they go through the motions
like they have the passion obviously but
not the same type of passion that any
creator has when they're enjoying what
they're doing because
they don't know if they're getting paid
for this they don't know what they're
planning to make on this they may just
make enough money to fund the book print
the book and send it to people and
they're okay with that like at least it's
out there for the people to enjoy exactly
you know that's very why i got into
this industry because i love storytelling
yeah that's what it's all about at the
end of the day is like you pour
yourself into this and
doesn't matter if anybody likes it,
but you, I mean, it does,
but it was so therapeutic for you to
write that and put those words on the
paper and see that story and see that
art come together with that story.
And that in and of itself, I mean,
it's,
you know exactly exactly man but let's
talk about the world of skin shifter here
like every world has its rules every
universe within a comic book has its rules
every horror movie every horror villain
every horror trope they all have a
rules built within it made by the writer
of this story.
What are the rules of the skin shifter
universe?
Uh, so first, uh,
skin shifter is actually part of a bigger
universe.
Okay.
Um,
so my entire comic universe is called the
hollow fake Chronicles.
Okay.
And so I have other comments called my
main series.
Arc fire is a science fiction horror
thriller too.
And I've been asked if my universe is
connected.
I'm saying, yes, they're connected,
but you don't have to pick up one
book to understand the other.
Each one has their own voice and each
other has their own story.
I was like, so I'm like,
you can start with Skinshifter because
it's a whole completely,
because it's a psychological horror.
And then like Arcfire is more of a
science fiction,
cosmic adventure action horror.
And then I have another comic called
Hallow Fiend that's a murder mystery,
psychological horror.
supernatural so yeah a lot you can see
the drill a lot of his heart because
i'm like yeah right there was a um
i'm trying to remember who wrote the book
or the name of the book but it
was um it was a psychological um thriller
but it was about guys who went around
and did um
not exorcisms but cleansing of uh haunted
like houses and stuff like that and um
come out last year and it was just
really good like that psychological type
of like haunted thriller and um yeah dude
i wish i could remember the name of
it but it was just so good it
was i think it was like um
I want to say it was Dark Horse.
It was on Dark Horse or maybe Ani
Press.
Okay.
But it was just really, really good.
Because it was like...
I want to say at one point the
guy was...
priest or something but he was like like
removed from the church or he removed
himself from the church but it was very
much along this like the exorcism and
annabelle and that kind of stuff where
just all these bad things started
happening to like his cameraman and like
the people around him so i really love
those types of stories where it's just
creepy and it's like
that type of horror that as you read
it,
like you kind of get that tingle up
your spine and the hairs on your neck
stand up.
Right there.
But I'm so with the rules.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't follow rules.
Fair enough.
um because i'm like i don't do like
this is a final girl thing i'm like
that's been done since ever um but i
will say that the rule i do for
is like uh finding your identity and like
a lot of my stories i try to
put like um a sense of like mental
health um okay awareness into it a bit
with characters
Uh, like to,
I try to find a way for each
character to be relatable somewhere.
Yeah.
Somehow.
Um, but you know, so I was like,
be careful.
You trust.
It's also, I might be careful.
You trust.
Yeah.
So like entities like the Jackal bunny,
how do they operate within, within this?
Are they like that?
The Michael Myers of it,
the Jason of it, or like,
do they just like poop gone back?
that's a good question um i think because
i mean she was sent from the prince
of hell yeah so she has to have
a way to communicate to hell she has
to have yeah you know ways to do
these things yeah i always say she's kind
of like um kind of sort of like
hellraiser a bit okay in a way um
Yeah,
I kind of like Hellraiser mixed with kind
of a little bit of Spawn a bit
to her.
Okay.
You can actually kind of put some Scholar
Richard from Marvel into her too.
Now I think about it.
So I kind of like that and just
with the bunny.
Fair enough.
But I think she's one of those characters
like it's like very complex.
You can't really just pull one character
they know her because i think as her
as jackal bunny and like that character
evolves she's much deeper than you think
she is so you can't just name one
thing that you compare her to so you
can just find so many different aspects of
her yeah from different horror uh legends
and like different horror characters and
that's probably why i have the most fun
writing jackal party because i'm how
because i'm i'm taking inspiration from so
many
different characters I grew up watching
and watch to this day.
She is one of those complex characters,
I would say.
I like you, man.
We talked about the Prince of Hell several
different times here,
but what role does he actually play within
this world?
That's the fun part.
that I play with all the time.
Let's just say he's like the villain
version of Nick Fury.
Okay.
Bringing things together for something
that's going to happen down the road.
I'll put it that way.
Melbagia did the same thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because like I said,
I know a lot of people don't know
who Melbagia is, but he is back.
He is within the Spawn universe.
So there you go.
You know,
but others listening later may not know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But like I said,
my characters are connected somehow.
somewhere and I do plan on a crossover
event called the Hallow fake Chronicles
book.
Okay,
we'll bring together our fire and skin
shift and my other stories that's gonna
come out before the Halloween crossover.
I mean,
the Hallow fake Chronicles crossover to
show how they are connected.
But let's just even Yeah, he's,
that's basically how he plays in this
universe.
He's like the dark version, Nick Fury,
just a prince of hell.
So, yeah.
Fair enough.
I like it.
He's a mix of Nick Fury and Thanos
in a way.
Okay.
So, yeah.
Because he has the power of Thanos and
he's very powerful.
And he has a mission that he wants
to complete that you will find out once
you read the story.
I like it.
I think
Every good horror story,
especially one like this where there's
inevitably going to be a hero deserves a
villain with a big plan like this.
The Batman, Joker, that kind of stuff.
So I like those types of villains.
Yeah,
because when I started writing these
stories, I'm like,
this is kind of like my
Marvel Universe,
but it's more horror and not a superhero
type of thing.
Because I'm like,
they're not going to have like these crazy
type of suits or anything.
But it's like,
it's a mix of supernatural characters.
And because I also have vampires,
I have witches, I have demons,
I have other creatures in the stories.
And then I have some humans that have
powers.
So I will, I mean,
there will be humans that have powers,
but I don't, I'm not,
they're not going to be like a,
they're not going to have like a signature
suit or anything like that.
Cause I want,
cause I always got into writing comics.
I'm like, I want to stray away from,
from superheroes.
Cause every time,
every time somebody bring up comics,
they automatically think superheroes.
I was like,
comics are more than superheroes.
So I want to stray away from that.
You know what?
I don't mind superheroes.
I'm just tired of superheroes.
wearing suits yeah and outfits i just want
like just yes they're a superhero but they
look like the the neighbors you know what
i'm saying yeah yeah i don't mind it
either but i'm the same way like i'm
the same way that's what i was like
this is like my marvel universe but you
don't have to read one book to understand
the other they're all standing yeah i want
you to read them because i want you
to like enjoy like
be entertained into the stories,
but you don't have to pick up,
you can just start anywhere.
And you're instantly,
if you instantly get hooked and you want
to see the other ones,
please be my guest and check,
check all of them out.
Cause I, I want,
cause I want to get people reading and
having fun again.
And like this world is crazy right now.
And I,
I just want to help people grow their
imagination,
just have fun with stories and,
Get away from media.
Turn the brain off and just enjoy your
read.
Yeah,
and that's also why I transitioned to more
paperbacks because you can just sit there
and just have a full-fledged arc and just
enjoy your time.
What the hell is happening right now?
Oh my God!
That's how I am.
I'm reading books and stuff.
And so I was like,
I want to give people, like kids, adults,
and just everyone, have a blast.
We need some fun right now.
And that's what I say,
writing is my therapy because that's how I
get out of my head for a minute.
Yeah.
Storytell some random stuff that I cook up
in my head.
no i like it and so we know
this is a horror story what types of
horror define skin shifter to you now we
got the psychological effect in there but
what other types of horrid are mixed into
this you know the psychological you have
the supernatural um
Yeah,
you kind of sort of have a murder
mystery and I'll think about it.
Right now I think about it,
it's gonna have a little bit of murder
mystery because there are outside
characters that are confused as to what's
going on.
So it's kind of a bit of a
murder mystery to it too.
And then you have the you have a
little bit of a gore in there,
but the gore goes with the story.
It's not like a terrifying thing.
Yeah, it's not gore to have gore.
Yeah,
it's the gore that actually makes that
actually drives the story that drives the
story because
you are because you do see the demonic
side of jackal body because she you will
see her sharp when she mutates her hands
into sharp type of nail things that you
see.
And then you actually see the demon face
of jackal bunny tools.
And so I will say that you do
see you do see her sharp teeth and
how her Yeah, bunny face changes.
Like, oh, by the way,
the jackal bunny version that's like the
bunny is actually her face.
Only Sabrina jacket wears a mask.
That's
So that's how they're two different
things.
That's how they're two different entities.
Because as a jackal bunny,
her face is the bunny.
Gotcha.
But as Sabrina Jackal,
Sabrina Jackal wears a bunny mask.
Okay.
I like it.
I will put out saying jackal bunny is
a spirit that's older than Sabrina Jackal.
I will say that.
I don't mind putting that out there, but
You'll see how they came together.
Fair enough.
I like it.
How do you find balance between
psychological and visual?
All these different horror tropes that you
were including in this book.
How do you balance those out without it
being just overwhelming for a reader?
The way I'm
balanced?
That's a good question.
Actually, how did that bounce it?
So I tried to put too much.
It's like one page.
Yeah.
So, like I said at the beginning,
it starts out with Amaya and like she
sees jackal and I see Sabrina jackal and
like after that, it's again a bench.
And then you kind of see Amaya go
go about her life.
And then that's how I try to balance
it.
I'm sure the life of the character
And then I get back to the horror
of the story and showing what Jack O'
Bonnie and Spoonjack's up to.
And then I released some secrets that's
going behind the back of Amaya that she
doesn't know about.
And then I go back to,
I was like, all right,
let me show more of her life,
who Amaya is,
and the type of person she is.
So that's kind of how I try to
balance it out to show each character's
life.
And then, of course,
I got some college jocks in the story.
Of course she got to.
She's in college.
Yeah.
So that's kind of,
I try to like balance it out.
I'm like, so like this, I'm like,
there are jobs in real life that does
stuff like this.
And so I was like,
I try to bring like some real realism
into it too.
And so that's kind of like the way
I try to like balance it out a
bit.
I try not to put too,
too much of the psychological in there,
but I try to,
put it where it actually makes sense and
not just thrown in there for no freaking
reason.
Yeah.
And then that's how I drive the story.
I was like, okay, I want, I'm like,
okay, I want to start a simple,
I was like, okay,
this is happening behind her back,
but this is also what she's up to.
well, this is what Jackabunny's doing,
and then this is what Amaya's friends are
doing, and stuff like that.
I was like, okay,
now let me- You really have to utilize
the panels of the page.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
I was like, okay,
now let me get you to the gritty
part of what Jackabunny did without you
guys knowing while Amaya was living her
life.
Then you kind of see a potential victim
that Jackaboy took while Maya is living
her life.
And so you actually see that graphic and
it's like, this is what the Jackaboy does,
by the way,
in the demon form of her.
And yeah, so I was like, eh,
then going back to the story.
So I try to keep it balanced the
best way I can.
Like, have you entertained,
but also understand the story,
but also kind of like,
See if you get scared or not.
But that's not really my goal with horror.
I don't think horror is to be scary.
I just want a good story that drives
me to want to know more about these
characters.
I want to feel the intensity.
I want to feel the emotion.
I don't care about being scared.
I don't do those cheap jump scares.
I just want you to move with the
story.
So yeah.
No, that works, dude.
I like stories that are fleshed out like
that, where you have your primary story,
your secondary story, your tertiary story,
which a lot of stories don't do that
tertiary story,
which is what's happening behind the
scenes.
you know the main protagonist the
antagonist and then you have something
else going on in the background you may
not pick up on it right away but
eventually you know through the arts or
through the words it kind of like slowly
creeps itself back into the actual main
story yeah and um no it is one
of those where you can either do it
really well or if you really mess that
part up you know
That's why you don't see a lot of
stories with a tertiary thing going on
behind it.
You don't get a lot of that no
more.
The book I'm working on has that going
on, but it's...
I don't want to say it's really obvious,
but it's pretty obvious once it's fleshed
out the proper way.
You'll be like, wait, is that...
oh yeah but it's just like this really
cool story going on behind that the main
story and it's going to be really i
think it's going to hit really good
because of the characters it is and people
are it will become like very blatantly
obvious who the characters are in the
story and then people will be like oh
damn so yeah
And then also in Skid Shifter,
it has like a detective aspect to it
too.
I will tease that.
Yeah.
It's like,
but you won't see the detective aspect
until the graphic novel version.
So that's... Okay.
So Skid Shifter chapter one,
you get into more of the psychological
aspect of the story.
But then in the graphic novel,
you get the other parts.
Yeah.
No, I do like a good like...
supernatural detective or like a horror
detective story.
Like there's something about those types
of stories that are just so good.
Um,
and this is my first time writing like
a detective type of adding a detective.
So plot to the story that's got you.
Yeah.
That's, um,
that's going to have a twist to it
that I hope you don't see happening.
Yeah.
Um,
but I saved that for the graphic novel
version to see,
so you can see the full flesh arc.
Yeah.
But that's why I want to release this.
I'm going to release chapter one just to
get, I'm like,
let me dip your toes into this.
Yeah.
So, you know,
what else is like people will write these
really phenomenal,
like psychological dramas,
psychological horrors,
supernatural type stories where people are
very obviously and very blatantly being
murdered or killed.
What have you?
And, um,
don't include the human aspect of that
okay there's going to be cops there's
going to be detectives yeah i want to
see more of that kind of stuff within
stories as well well yeah right it's a
really you know write us a really good
horror story but within the background of
that give us that
that, that real world police side of it.
Like I'm not telling you to write what,
write as a full on like detective novel
about trying to solve this, you know,
supernatural horror,
but add that little bit of real world
realness to it.
And it just cranes up a good comic
book or a good graphic novel to another
level.
Like you don't have to show it.
Like you can just pop in a panel
and,
of like the jackal bunny in this case
like leaving the scene of a crime and
then like a cop like that drove by
it by chance you know or like that's
actually that's actually funny there
actually is a scene similar to that in
the graphic novel
See,
it gives it a little bit of that
real-world feel to it, you know,
of what may happen if something like this
actually did happen.
It's just a little slice of that real
world, you know, with a story,
and I love that kind of stuff.
Just a little bit.
Actually, that might be in Chapter One,
too, actually, now that I think about it.
I like those little elements.
Give me a good horror.
Give me a good mystery.
But give us a little splash of that
real world where we know this bad stuff
is happening.
Just tease that the cops are working on
this or a detective is working on this.
It doesn't have to be explicitly, oh,
there's a big crime scene and the cops
are there.
But
Maybe in the background of a panel,
there's like cops rushing toward the
direction that the protagonist is leaving
in because they just did all these bad
things.
I like just that little bit of real
world.
Oh, yeah.
No, think about it.
There is a scene that turns into a
crime scene in chapter one.
but you don't see the detectives until the
graphic novel,
so I actually do bring it back to
that scene.
You got to return to it.
You got to return to the scene.
I like it.
Let's talk about the creative process on
this.
You've done this book with Daya Negara?
Is that how you pronounce her name?
Daya.
Perfect.
I'm horrible with names.
I can pronounce Evan Davis.
yeah but that's not that's just that's
just a short version of her name her
her last name is actually longer than that
she just has me say the negron part
her actual last name is spelled really
longer and different i just couldn't
pronounce it and so she just said just
say this day at the girl so no
that works man so how did y'all connect
like how did y'all connect to work on
this story together dude that's actually a
funny story we met four years ago
I was with an independent film studio.
It was four or five years ago.
No, it was four years ago.
I was with an independent film studio
supporting their movies and potentially
get cast.
I did a voiceover for that studio.
They have a Discord.
I remember one day when I was thinking
about getting into comics.
That's when I was studying comics and
learning how to write.
find artists and stuff like that.
One day she so happened to post a
piece of her art in the discord and
I saw it.
Yeah.
And I was like, wait a minute,
what the world and where the crap did
you come from?
And so I sent her a friend request
and she accepted it.
And so I, I messaged her,
like start a casual conversation, say,
Hey, how are you doing?
And like, all right.
I'm like, I saw your art.
So freaking cool.
And then we just had a full-fledged
conversation talking about art and just
being like creativity.
Yeah.
And then I popped the question, I'm like,
do you by chance do comic books?
She said, as a matter of fact,
I do.
And then the brain started, started going,
I was like, okay.
I told her I'm a writer,
I'm an author,
and I'm thinking about getting into comic
books.
Can you help me figure out how to
do this?
And she's,
she got so excited when I pitched her
multiple stories of like what I'm thinking
in my head.
And I sent her like my novel of
Jagabani and she's a huge horror fan.
She's like, Oh my God.
And she's like,
she could see the visual in her head
already.
Yeah.
And then I was like,
are we going to,
are we potentially going to have a
partnership now?
Cause we just bonded very quickly and we
just met.
Yeah.
And so I was like,
and I was still learning how to make
a script and everything.
And then we kind of, uh,
we started working with character designs
and then, you know, life happens.
We kind of had to pause for a
couple of years, like for a while.
Cause she was going through a lot of
trends, different transitions,
stuff with like her personal life and
everything.
Yeah.
And so Skinshifter, well, I didn't,
I didn't have Skinshifter wasn't the title
back then because I didn't have a title
for the comic yet.
I just went back to Jack O'Bronnie.
And, uh, and so I kind of list,
I kind of just like went off for
a bit and like try to find out
the artists.
Um, and so I found another artist,
but I had a different story, um,
for that artists in that,
in that Jackal body.
And so.
Twenty, twenty four, twenty,
twenty four day, uh,
and I reconnected over creating comics
together.
Uh-huh.
We've been in contact this entire time.
It just, we just like as friends,
but we never actually actually started
working together just yet.
Yeah.
And so like,
I had the full script done and everything
for finally, or, and that's when I, um,
I got the name skin shifter after watching
one, uh,
independent movie called shape shifter.
Yeah.
And I like the shifter name and I
like the concept of the movie.
I'm saying, sounds like,
and then I heard of Skinwalker.
I'm saying Skinwalker, shape shifter,
skin shifter.
Ah, there we go.
That's the title.
And so I was like, okay.
Then I sent her the script.
She's like, wow.
And she got excited again.
And then stuff still happened about her
life and everything.
And then we, it was, it was,
Then in twenty twenty five,
everything calmed down, got less hectic.
I actually had another artist to do
Skinshifter at first,
but it didn't come out the way I
wanted it.
Yeah.
And so I didn't promote it or release
that version of it.
I'm like, no, no,
no bad things to the artist that did
it.
He did a wonderful job.
It just wasn't it just didn't feel like
what I wanted.
Yeah.
And then Daya comes back into the picture,
and now we're in full production of
Skinshifter, as you can see.
And she brings out the feel that I
want.
Sometimes that's what it's all about, man.
If you don't click with your artists on
that particular story,
you're not going to like it.
You're not going to enjoy it.
And if you don't enjoy it,
nine times out of ten,
the people you want to sit down and
read and enjoy it aren't going to enjoy
it either because it's going to show.
You're not going to want to market it.
You're not going to want to push it
the way it needs to be pushed.
Oh yeah.
So it really is.
It makes a huge difference when you like
the artist and you like what they're
producing.
Like when you already have this particular
person in your head for a project,
you're going to have to shoot the,
you know, you got to do that.
Yeah.
Like you just did like, yeah,
you've done it,
but it didn't resonate the way you needed
it to, to want to continue with that.
So, yeah.
And like, and when they did the cover,
as you can see on the Kickstarter,
I instantly, I'm like,
that's what I'm looking for.
That's the tenacity I'm looking for.
And now full-fledged in production, um,
on the on chapter one and the graphic
novel um we're about halfway done with
chapter one um so um i'm hoping to
have have the travel on printed before i
launch the kickstarter officially so i can
actually show the audience of like this is
chapter one it's fully done this is what
this is for like you you have pages
though right i do i got some of
the pages are on the kickstarter page yeah
i thought i had seen some on there
yeah that that's the first few
um so my chapter one is halfway due
halfway done i'm so excited and i said
this morning before i came on this show
she texted me saying she opened up monday
so i'm like yay pages and i i
am so freaking excited and the skin
shifter is such a blast writing and just
looking at the interior that she's doing
for it i was like
this is what i wanted and it looks
so freaking good and also brings like the
gothic type or yeah it's a jackal bunny
the outfit of the jackal bunny was yeah
i just felt like the old gothic feel
to it with the mask you felt like
an old like halloween mask from like the
the fifties or sixties or thirties or
forties it just had that old feel to
it that's what she bringing that out man
And I mean, I, I,
and she knew that before I even told
her.
Yeah.
Like describing the character.
I was like, this is like,
this is Jacob Bonnie and she's,
and she just instantly knew I wanted like
something Gothic.
I was like,
I didn't even say the word,
but somehow she just translated into what
I wanted, like in a Gothic type of,
uh, feel to it.
And I was like,
that's exactly what I wanted.
I wanted a Gothic horror.
um element to it too because i i
love gothic horror too i was like i
same i was we i just literally had
jasmine crawshaw on here with her uh her
uh gothic horror you know story that's
going to be a part of the aha
um uh anthology yeah i think i saw
the episode and uh
I love a good gothic, a deep,
dark gothic horror.
And I'm like,
the world needs more of those.
I'm laughing because it reminded me of,
I think it was late last year.
Was it late last year or maybe earlier
this year?
But I was like,
I think it was Dark Horse had released
a new Western,
like a horror Western comic book.
I was like,
the world needs more Western horror comic
books.
The following week,
there was two other ones.
I was like, I made it happen.
I just finished a Western horror,
Supernatural horror, too,
that's coming later.
I don't want to give an exact date
yet, but it's coming.
I do have a Supernatural horror, Western
That's a gunslinger story.
I love those types of stories.
You throw in the supernatural with a
western and a good old school horror story
that you would think would take place in
that kind of time frame.
Just something about them is so good.
Or you mix in a supernatural element with
voodoo or something like that and they
just come out so well.
My story is called Sireguard.
It's, uh,
the gunslinger is a half demon house,
a gonflinger character.
Okay.
And he's,
and he's going to be partnered with the
vampire, uh,
that he does not trust because he doesn't
trust supernatural beings,
even though he's part one.
But yeah, no,
those kinds of stories are always fun.
So that's going to be fun bringing that
to life.
I can't, I can't, that's,
that's my other excited story.
I can't wait to bring to life my
first restaurant.
That's my first horror restaurant.
I'm so excited to bring that together,
man.
Oh,
I can't wait to bring it to life.
So what do you think was the most
challenging part of bringing this story to
life?
Writing it.
Cause like when you asked about the
balance thing,
that was the part of the challenging part
was the balance.
Cause I wrote like multiple versions of
this story.
And I was like, okay,
that's too much of this.
I'm like, that's too much of this.
I'm like, this is just...
And then I was like, okay,
I need to slow down.
I know what I want,
but I'm going too fast.
It's really just actually sitting down and
actually pacing it good enough that grabs
your attention,
but also pacing not too slow that makes
you bored.
I was like,
I want to get into the action,
but also make sure it
pace is good enough yeah you don't want
to just like page one like straight into
it yeah you you kind of want a
slow build like you want a slow build
but you know you can't slow build because
yeah you only get so many pages to
play with right exactly because yeah i
know exactly because that was the one
version i had that was straight weighted r
instantly and it was it was like uh
uh you know the movie hellboy
Yeah, yeah.
It was kind of an opening that it
was straight into.
I'm like, okay,
that might turn somebody off.
So I'm like,
let me introduce the main character first
to show how she is and then ease
you into what's about to happen.
So I'm just like,
there we go that's that was the part
was i'm like i need to get that
balance like how do you open a comic
book you know yeah like you just go
straight into it do you slow build do
you like yeah yeah that's got to be
like one of the most difficult parts
because i know how i'm planning to do
mine and even that i go back and
forth with myself like do i want to
do it that way or do i want
to open like it's basically
almost it could be like two it's two
completely separate different vibes
exactly through the entire story depending
on which way i decide to open the
story exactly thank you because i know
that's going to later influence like yeah
later issues of the
So it's literally an eternal battle with
myself.
That and just, like,
decided on a name for the book as
well.
It's just, like,
something I'm beating myself up over.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But let's keep it going.
Let's talk about this Kickstarter.
So why can backers expect from Skinshifter
when it goes live?
As, like, rewards or just...
Yeah.
Just like in general, like,
is it just going to be like the
one book?
Is it going to others from your,
you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So with this first Kickstarter, um,
I originally,
I haven't taught us volume one,
but it's actually,
I need to change it to chapter one
because this Kickstarter was originally
for the graphic novel, but one,
I have to think smart.
Yeah.
And so,
and I got inspired by another creator, uh,
George Medina.
who was basically one of my mentors when
I came into this industry,
where he actually launches his book,
where it's chapter one,
and then that gets done,
and then he's launching a graphic novel.
And so learning from him, I was like,
ooh, I need to do it that way,
because I think that will balance better.
And so this Kickstarter is actually
chapter one and not by one.
So my apologies,
I forgot to change the title.
You're good.
so this is chapter one of skin shifter
which is about thirty roughly forty
something pages um it's a paperback it
isn't it is a paperback it's not a
floppy it is a paperback itself um so
with this kickstarter you have you have
two covers one that's the main cover by
dea and then i have another cover by
another artist named ruth uh goldstein
okay so there's so that for chapter one
um
And that's what she tells about the, like,
that's the first part of my novel that's
translated into the comic.
And so, and I also have a,
I also have like a Skinshifter shirt on
there if you want to merchandise with it.
I have a Skinshifter title on the shirt,
even a snapback hat if you want to
like get some swagger while you're reading
chapter one.
But yeah, with this Kickstarter,
it's the one book of chapter one where
you can get the main cover or the
variant cover.
And this is my first time doing a
variant cover, by the way.
So I want to test it out and
see which cover is on by my like.
Yeah,
I'm a firm believer in keeping it simple.
Yeah,
so I'm not doing like five hundred
variants.
I'm only doing the main and one variant.
That's it.
I'm stopping there.
Yeah.
um again i'm a firm believer oh yeah
so chapter one um is about about thirty
to forty something pages for the skit
starter um and then the graphic novel
version will will be volume one the main
cover would be by different artists named
todd rayner uh he's doing the main cover
for the graphic novel i saw the sketch
it looks so badass i can't wait to
i can't wait to get it ah
And that graphic novel is probably coming
like probably early next year to give my
artist some time to finish the pages.
And the graphic novel is going to be
like the full arc one of Skinshifter
translated from my Jacob Bonnie novel,
which is about six issues in one book.
And so if I can estimate the amount
of pages that might be a hundred,
I'll let you know when I get the
full book done.
I'm just going to estimate it's going to
be about a hundred forty-ish pages or so
in the graphic novel.
And that's my very first graphic novel and
I'm really excited to bring this first arc
together.
And I already have an ending for
Skinshifter.
I do have an ending for Skinshifter.
Cause like people say that you don't want
to milk the French.
No, I'm a firm believer.
Most brainers go into this with a
beginning and an ending.
It's just how,
how long is it going to take you
to get to the end?
Yeah.
I'm like, I already have the ending.
And, um,
but I would say the ending of skin
shift,
a real lead to the Halloway Chronicles
crossover.
Okay.
So that's, and that's how, uh,
to bring my arc fire,
to bring the screenshot to during a Hall
of fame characters and my other comics,
the characters together into the Hall of
fate Chronicles crossover, um,
down the road.
Um, so what's that timeline look like?
Do you get to that, that level?
Good question.
I don't know yet,
but on a serious note, um,
I'm trying to,
I don't want to give a specific time
yet because I'm quality over quantity.
regardless.
I made this joke every time I was
on somebody's show.
My name might be Kevin,
but I'm not Kevin Feige.
I'm quality over quantity.
But yeah,
I don't want to give like a timeline
just yet because life happens and
everything.
I just want to one plus I want
to give my artists grace because they're
working their asses off with me telling
this universe together and bringing this
universe together.
And so but I can say for
Skinship to chapter one.
I either I'm planning between June and
August.
I'm planning to launch this Kickstarter
for chapter one.
And so you can have it in time
for Halloween.
And then volume one,
which is the actual graphic novel,
about six issues long.
I'll say early to mid twenty twenty seven.
But then I'll have in between stories
where it's like Sire Guard or no,
that's all right.
No.
a story named called Med Pops by Daya,
who's also done art for the house.
She's done multiple books with me,
so you're going to see a lot of
her.
So Daya's also going to be working on
the story I call Med Pops,
which is more of an apocalyptic story.
That's also going to be paperbacks,
like I said,
transitioning to more paperbacks and
stuff.
And yes,
it's also connected to this overall art
universe.
I'm hoping that comes out next year as
well.
And then, yeah,
I'm not sure about Sireguard yet because I
want to make sure I keep everything
organized and keep everything balanced to
make everything flow.
And but yeah.
And then, oh, and Arcfire.
I have Arcfire graphic novel.
Two issues in from Arcfire.
But that's two single issues of our car
that's out.
Okay.
So I'm sitting, I'm sitting those back.
I'm sending those books out to my backers
from that Kickstarter.
I'm a bit late due to some damages
of the book from the printer and
everything.
Yeah, I always hate when that happens.
That's never a good thing.
As long as you're communicating with the
backers, they understand.
Yeah, I just sent an update.
I'm sorry.
It was supposed to be in the mail
by now,
but there were some issues with the
quality of the book.
I'm not finishing a happy book.
The issue was fine.
It's just the issue two printed.
That's it.
That's why it's delayed again.
I'm sorry.
So I'm getting those out there bit by
bit as best as I can.
But I'll probably get that done before I
launch Skinshifter.
Chapter one.
Even if I don't,
I'll send them out to both if I
have to.
It's just fine.
You're going to get the book regardless.
Yeah.
But yeah.
It's time I launch Skinshifter graphic
novel, I'm hoping,
in twenty-seven and have another story out
which is Mad Pops for twenty-seven as
well.
Um,
and I'm turning ArcFire into a graphic
novel next too.
So, um,
cause even though two single issues in,
I was like,
I'm going to read about that.
Cause as I've been in this industry,
I've learned so much.
And so I'm like,
I'm kind of like rephrasing,
like regrouping era of my business.
Yeah.
And so I was like,
next time you see ArcFire,
it will come with a new title called
ArcFire Quest.
So Arcfire Quest Volume One is probably
going to be about six issues, too,
of the first arc of Arcfire.
So I was like,
that's going to take some time.
The first two issues are done,
so I just need to add the next
pages,
the next four issues to complete that
graphic novel.
So I'm excited for that.
I can't tell you how many pages that
one's going to be yet,
because that's a whole different medium,
different than Skinshifter.
And each one is different,
so they have different levels of detail
and different level of storytelling.
But Arcfire Quest,
volume one graphic novels coming down the
road,
I don't have a special timeline yet as
I am editing the next four chapters.
Yeah.
Yeah,
the next four chapters of that story.
And Arcfire,
I have about like maybe twenty issues in
my head that I want to do.
But instead of doing full-fledged singles,
I'm going to put them in volumes.
And I think that's better organized for
me.
And I can just put the volumes in
my stack.
yeah i mean so many issues i'm like
i'm putting them in volumes it's like so
art fire quest one one the first six
issues two the next six issues three the
next six issues yeah and then you can
see the full story and just by having
three issues compared to having twenty
freaking comics on your desk yeah so i
mean that's what works man that's what
works right yeah so that's why i'm
transitioning to more of a paperback
Uh, paper trade,
paperback trade bag or whatever it's
called.
Thank you.
You're almost there.
Yeah.
I was like, it's one of that.
Right.
And then I might have,
I might have some hard covers down, uh,
cause hard covers are a lot harder to
print because the hardcover, uh,
people like hard covers.
So I'm like,
I might test that one out,
but right now I'm going trade paperbacks
because one they're quicker to print and
two they're cheaper.
Yeah.
So.
I mean, you're not wrong about that one.
And I love hard covers because they do
last longer.
But right now I'm just testing the water
with some trade paperbacks.
And yeah,
let's just say you're going to be seeing
a lot of me since until I'm ninety.
Hey, I mean,
that's what drives your creative soul and
gives you that creative outlet that you
need.
Hey, do what you got to do, right?
There's always the fan base is there
supporting what you're doing.
You can literally do it forever.
Like Deadpool told Hugh Jackman until he's
ninety.
And plus,
I just want to bring originality and
creativity back into the world.
And you never know,
someday these might become animations,
which is one of my goals,
trying to get horror animations.
I was like,
you never say never on things.
I'm a very determined person,
so I'm going to make it happen.
I mean, that's not a prediction.
That's a spoiler.
If you're a WWE fan,
you know what I'm saying.
Calm down, Paul Heyman.
Calm down.
But, yeah.
But, yeah.
That's one of my goals.
I'm going to turn these into animations
someday.
So, yeah.
I like it, man.
I do.
So, I'm going to give you...
a minute to hard sell everybody on skin
shifter and why they should back this
Kickstarter.
I'll give you a minute.
Okay.
So you should back skin shifter one,
because if you love psychological
thrillers, a bit of a tech detective,
murder mystery, uh, supernatural horror,
this book is for you.
And if you, I mean,
if you're a big fan of all the
ego stories,
And those type of complex characters,
if you like Bray Wyatt the Fiend,
if you like Split,
like the Unbreakable series,
just those stories that get you in your
mental thinking mindset.
And I think you would definitely love
Skinshifter.
And if you also like a little bit
of gore in the horror,
you're going to see those graphics.
But also if you really love stories that
makes you wonder
what these why this character is the way
they are and you want to know that
like you want to know their backstory and
you like why is this villain this way
why is they why are they chasing this
character and just why it's the general
question why and why are they like this
you would definitely enjoy skinshifter and
i really hope you give it give it
a shot and i think you'll definitely have
a blast uh
reading Skinshifter,
and if you want some swagger with it,
hey,
you can look fresh while you're reading.
So that's why I think you should back
Skinshifter when it launches.
This is chapter one, by the way.
This is not the full graphic novel.
This is just chapter one to dip your
toes into so you can get the feel
for where the universe is going.
And I think you'll love it.
I like it, man.
I do.
So let everybody know where they can find
you.
and all your social media and where they
can also support you and possibly pick up
your other works as well.
Well,
first you can find me on Instagram at
I am Kevin Davis official,
and you can also find my, uh,
my business Instagram camera site is built
right here in my name,
in my camera site, also on Instagram and,
um, Facebook.
I am Kevin Davis CEO, tech talk.
I'm Kevin Davis CEO.
My YouTube name is still Kevasight,
but it's going to be changed to Kevasight
when I get the chance to change it.
Because I recently rebranded and changed
my publishing name to Kevasight Studios.
And my current website name is
Kevasight.com,
which is spelled K-E-V-I-S-Y-D-E,
where you can actually find everything I
do.
um but that's the current domain for that
website um you see my other books you
can see uh novels that i also publish
other authors on there too um but i
will put out that my site will eventually
be changed to kevinsite.com but right now
you still can go on my website at
kevinsite.com
So awesome, dude.
And all those links are currently listed
down in the description of this video.
So Kevin, I want to say,
I appreciate you coming through and
sharing your story with us and your
journey and kind of just what is skin
shifter.
It looks like it's going to be one
hell of a book.
And I'm personally excited.
Exactly.
And I'm personally excited for this book
to hit Kickstarter.
And, um,
Yeah, and to everyone watching,
make sure you check out Skinshifter Volume
One.
That link is also in the description down
below.
Support the Kickstarter when it launches.
And make sure you follow Kevin on all
platforms.
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Y'all be safe out there.
Happy weekend.