Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - We Share our Top 10 Picks!!!

Every Sunday Night, Carolyne Prevost, Jamie Latimer and Scott Switzer break down the weeks CrossFit News. This week is CrossFit Games Week.  We wil share our show schedule, our plans to help you stay abreast of what is going on. We look at events 5 and 8 which were just released.  We give you our predictions for top 10.  We say good bye to Brooke Wells.  and We play Fact or Fiction again this week.

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what is going on everybody

as ken walter says it's

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uh boba says it feels like

yesterday we were talking

about the open and now bam

the games are here in five

days wow it is it crept up

quick this year I cannot

believe it went by really

really fast for me too all

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Thank you, CJ.

Thank you.

So yeah, awesome stuff going on this week.

Awesome stuff going on for us.

Awesome stuff for Carolyn this week.

Oh my gosh.

Like, subscribe, join, do all that stuff.

It is crazy.

As we catch up, I have to know,

I got a picture from Jamie

today that her son hit a

cone in his driver's test.

Did he pass?

He did pass.

I thought if you knocked a cone over,

you were like,

automatically fail I don't

know if that rule has

changed um but yeah so you

had to start in the parking

lot and do you know get up

to the line back into a

spot and then parallel park

he did great in the first

two actually I thought he

was gonna hit a cone

backing in but he and the

dude was like that was the

best recovery I've ever

seen like he skirted it

like perfectly and then he

parallel parked and I was

like oh no we are we're done I was like

He like went back and over

and then corrected way too soon.

Like he was not in the spot at all.

And I was like, he's not going to make it.

I was like,

he needs to pull forward and

just like restart this whole thing.

But he backed up, hit a cone,

knocked it over.

And the guy was like, you got six points.

You can't get more than six

points to continue on with the road part.

He was like, so let's go on the road.

And I guess he did great on the road.

CJ says Florida just passed

a law that there's a fifty

hour class for new drivers

getting a license now mandatory.

We have we have like you

have to take a road course

for like thirty hours, I think, in Ohio.

We had so he had to log

fifty hours and twenty of

those have to be night hours.

So, yeah, he did all that.

I guess I don't fifty hour.

I don't know what the class was.

He was in it for.

two weeks I think I mean it

was it was kind of a long

process that was like he's

eighteen now so he did his

he like took our training

at fifteen years old and

we've been at this a while

he just uh barry mcconner

asks what's the driver's

test like in canada

I don't remember any cones

in our driver's test.

We were just put on the road.

I did the driving school and stuff first,

and then we're on the road,

and we go on the highway at some point.

We do three-point turns, parallel park,

all of that,

which is why I think it's crazy.

I don't remember cones anyways.

To me, it's like if someone hits a cone,

I feel like that.

I'm old,

so we didn't have cones either

back in my day.

You either parallel parked

in a real parking spot, or you failed.

yeah I would almost rather

that but so I can see I'm

not wanting to like bump a

car either I mean you kind

of need stuff there right

like you would need to

parallel park between cars

and they probably don't

want that liability of

somebody bumping a car so

yeah um carolyn did you

guys get to finish happy gilmore too

We did.

We watched that today.

It was funny.

I know what to expect when

you watch an Adam Sandler movie.

It's just little jokes and stuff.

Yeah, it was good.

Julie and I watched it last night.

We really enjoyed it.

It was a lot of fun.

But

the premise of the, and I'm not,

no spoilers here.

The premise of the,

of the movie is that

they're taking on a competitor,

a competitor golf league.

And Lex texted me tonight and says,

isn't that just like the WFP?

And I could not stop laughing.

I could not stop laughing.

If you've seen the movie and

you now put the WFP on this,

on the other golf league,

it makes me want to howl.

especially now no spoilers

like when they had the

introductions of the

players at the end you know

we were talking about it

and yeah so that's that's

what came up in our minds

when that happened if you

have not seen it and you

watch it have that in your

mind as you're watching the

other leg I'm sure they

were thinking live the live

tour but same same thing

All right.

Yes, Judy Reed.

You heard about Landman here a while back.

I'm waiting for season two.

We've got a lot to get into.

I want to start with just asking Carolyn.

It is games week.

You've got to start packing.

What all is going through

your head as you are

preparing to go to the

games for your fourth time now?

I just packed this afternoon.

I leave tomorrow morning.

Yeah, I mean, it went by super,

super fast.

Obviously,

an unexpected call to the games

about four, four weeks ago,

four and a half weeks ago.

But yeah,

it's just kind of like it just

gone like the summer just

gone by so fast.

One,

because I don't work in the summer as

a teacher.

So, yeah, it's just it's already here.

So I was packing and I was

trying to think of things to bring.

like knowing the events that are coming up,

things I can maybe leave at home.

Yeah.

So it's just,

just last minute stuff and

then making sure that I

have everything for when I arrive there.

And then yeah,

groceries when I get in tomorrow,

or actually I get in too

late tomorrow for groceries, but I have,

Lex already packed me a

bunch of snacks for the,

for the flight and at least

for my day tomorrow.

So yeah, it'll be a check-in on Tuesday.

Tuesday morning for me is check-in.

Lana says, good luck at the games,

Carolyn.

Amanda Hari, good luck, Carolyn.

Amanda's one of the people

I'm excited to see.

We got to hang out last year

with all the bad stuff that

happened at the games.

I'm hoping we get a good

experience this year to hang out.

Looks like you got some goodies.

You got the Yeti set.

You got your belt.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that all arrived all this weekend.

So the amount of boxes that

came to Lex's place is

crazy because each item was

in like a specific box for

the for the Yeti.

So that was yeah,

that was that was super exciting.

Probably a dream collaboration like this.

to have yeti like for the

last few years I've been

trying to get um just a

soft cooler from yeti so to

have all of that arrive I

was you know super super

happy um and then I got a

belt made from herd I don't

know if you guys saw the

little um coat I put on it

legs feed the wolf

so that's a um homage to my

wisconsin days um and the

miracle on ice with her

brooks saying um legs feed

the wolf and in our

training in wisconsin

that's what we always said

um so the w is in red and

it which is kind of like a little

not to my UW days.

And yeah, it's a,

it's a saying that I've

always said whenever I

train and it's like a quote

that I've always liked.

So, and that was,

that was by herd and you have a,

you're doing a partnership

for the games with them and

that belt and all that, or.

Yep.

So they send a bunch of

clothes to got that in.

I think it was Friday night.

I was at the,

I went to go watch my first

WNBA game this weekend, the Valkyries.

So that was super fun.

So when I got,

it was while I was at the venue.

So when I came back,

I had the box of herds.

So that was super exciting.

Yeah.

So belt, tape, sweat bands,

and a bunch of shirts to wear.

So excited for that hookup.

Yeah.

Ken Walters is happy because

a Canadian gave a nod to a

U S Olympic team.

I mean, I mean,

Mark Johnson was my coach

who was on that miracle on ice team.

So I think that's pretty cool.

And yeah, I like,

I like the meaning of the saying as well.

And just how like, you know,

your preparation is what's

going to drive you forward on,

you know,

the game day and everything is

built from the legs.

That's your foundation.

Uh, Jeanette Prevost.

Good luck.

Bonne chance, Carolyn.

Bonne chance.

Bonne chance.

I am not,

French is not one of my languages.

Um, I tried to pull up your cool stuff,

but you put it in your story.

So they're all gone.

Bad move, bad move for a podcaster.

Okay.

So we also want to talk

about some events that have

been posted this week.

Two of them that since we

weren't went live Monday night,

and that is event five,

which is our one rep max

back squat event.

Any thoughts on that?

When it came up,

I was excited for not a

clean and jerk or snatch masks.

I typically like back

squatting or squatting in general.

I don't know that my numbers

are where they used to be,

but it's better for me than

the alternative of the Olympic lifts.

So I like the deadlifts, the back squats,

the more traditional powerlifting stuff.

Jamie sent me a pukey emoji

when she saw it, meaning she hates it,

which means I love it.

I just... I don't... I never

like the lifting events.

I don't like three attempts.

Again, if you want to go watch lifting,

go watch a powerlifting

meet or an Olympic lifting meet.

And if you really want to see...

what these people can lift I

just say throw ten minutes

on the clock and see what

they can hit like I don't

like the limitations to it

um where did you see three

rep three attempts I don't

know I swear I saw that

somewhere I've not been able to find it

for me it's just it's this I

I for any max lift it's the

thing about crossfit that I

hate in terms of safety and

it's the corral time of

waiting so long and then

going to max out with few

lifts to me that's reckless

I hate that about our sport

like we don't see that in

other sports where you know

olympic lifting they're in

the back working out and

then they can get at least

to their weight when they

go onto the floor and

they're already ready but to

you know to put a load on

your back or a max snatch

or clean and jerk whatever

it is and you've waited

even ten minutes like

that's it's a lot um so

I've always hated that

about our sport so I hope

that like and I know that

they won't allow us to like

put a load on the bar and

just do a couple squats

before you start but I just

think it's reckless

that's just my opinion and

not just like all the all

the lifting every event is

like that um my hope is

it's just it's just like

the sandbag clean where

they have four lines they

have like four racks four

people go in each time

frame and it's a line and

you're just going until

people are out and then as

the people reduce you

shrink it down to two lines

shrink it down to one line

and then you're going

through and so you're going

up the ladder which is safer

draws it out a little bit more,

makes it a little bit more exciting.

And then it gives us the

opportunity to have tiebreakers,

which I have been a

proponent that need to be

added because they can be

just as exciting as the main event.

yeah so as long as yeah as

long as it's not like um I

mean I think the rogue one

was super long with the

deadlift and had a lot a

lot of attempts but if

there was some sort of just

you know build up to a

certain amount and then it

gets to smaller increases

and you can decide to go in

or out kind of like a in a

weightlifting meet you know

they have that no one wants

to go okay we go up we go

up um would be pretty cool

um because you don't you

also don't want to be doing like

a ridiculous amount at each weight,

but yeah,

I'm excited to see the format of it.

Um, I do like that event.

Yeah.

We also had event eight, which is a forty,

forty calorie echo bike,

one hundred foot yoke carry,

thirty deficit handstand pushups,

yoke carry, forty, fifty,

forty echo bike at the end.

Up and down little mini chipper.

I think this one is going to

separate itself on the

deficit handstand push-up

and the rest that you may need for that,

like in between your sets.

Like to me,

it's a parallel handstand

push-up workout.

And then the yoke seems irrelevant.

I would have preferred the

yoke on each end because I

think that would have been

cool to see coming off that last bike.

And then seeing who's going

to take the yoke on broken.

Like,

is there going to be a change of lead

there?

If it was heavy enough where

people like are tired,

maybe biked a little bit

too fast and then don't

pick up the yoke right away.

You just see that finish a

little bit better.

I think it would have looked

better with the yoke on each end,

but I still think it comes

down to those deficit handstand pushups.

Cause if you could save a

lot of time there, even if you echo bike,

you know, at a couple RPMs different,

I think it's,

going to come down to the

proficiency of the handstand push-ups.

And if you're proficient at everything,

then it's going to be a

great workout for you.

Yeah, I totally agree.

It's a parallette handstand push-up.

Well, yeah.

Does it say parallette for

the deficit or is it?

Well, that was just on their video.

Oh, okay.

It was parallette kipping.

And I mean, there could be twists.

We have no idea.

Right.

It was a pretty significant deficit.

Yeah,

it's probably the full parallette for

men in like

an ab mat for women.

Yeah.

I definitely think this is

going to be a handstand

pushup capacity workout.

Thirty is a dense set.

And if you went too hard to start,

you're in trouble.

You're down to singles.

You're failing reps.

And so much time can be lost there.

I totally agree, though.

You know when people bike a

little too hard and get off

the bike and can barely walk?

I would have loved to seen that.

Try to pick up that yoke and

get that across.

But yeah, it's a good event.

I'm with Carolyn.

I said it on Friday show

that if they would have

ended with the yoke,

I think it would have been

pretty dramatic because you

would see races visually to the,

to the end.

Right.

And that I think would have

been more visually

appealing than ending on a bike.

The only time you get

excited about ending on a

bike is if Tim Paulson goes ham on a bike,

right?

Like, um,

that's the only bike finish I can

even remember from the games,

but a yoke finish,

I think we would remember.

because it's like fifty and

forty cows it's still

significant time on and I

think that's a not as

visually appealing to end

on that then you know they

they push hard and then

they go and pick up the

yoke and then they could

drop it if their legs are

tired and I just think that

would have been a better

finish but the workout

seems good um yeah I like

the workout I just if they

would have flipped the bike

in the yoke I think I would

have loved the workout

agree cj says I hear jamie

dabbles well did you see

the question I didn't no is

jamie proficient in

crossfit a little bit for

people who don't know jamie

finished fourth last year

at the crossfit games in

the forty to forty four

year old division she won

the open in the forty to

forty four year old

division this year and

she's going back to podium

this year at the crossfit games

We'll see.

All right.

So those are the two

workouts that were named this week.

I hate that this doesn't

default back to our, our setting.

Anyway,

I know other people complain about

that too.

So road to the games was out this week.

We had Tia versus the world.

Did you guys get an

opportunity to watch that?

I have not finished it, started it.

Yeah, I watched it.

It was the longest one.

Yeah, it was well done.

I thought it was really well done.

I didn't expect to have Dave

talk about Tia and say all

those things too.

I mean, everything he said was right,

but yeah, it was cool.

It was really well done.

I thought the best part of

it is it took you into her

mindset as to why she can't quit.

And it takes you into Shane's mindset of,

I thought she was going to

quit four other times.

Like, retire.

I'm talking retire.

But it also shows you,

she knows she's the best.

And whether she's at full bore or not,

she's not going to let anybody beat her.

Like, her mindset is just so strong.

And I think...

I've watched so many TIA videos,

which I find mind-numbing.

They are so bad.

This was not that.

This was like...

Finally,

they dug something out of her that

was new and felt like I was

learning more about her.

And what's cool is there's a

video out now called The

Legend of Torian Pro that

kind of follows into that again.

And it talks a little bit

more about Tia as well as

the Torian Pro and why it's

so popular in Australia.

If you haven't seen it,

it's a really good

representation of why that

is such a big thing in Australia.

why it means so much to them,

why they bring in the dancers,

what that means to them.

It's a really, really good video.

It was put out by Frogrips.

So if you want, check that out.

It's really, really good.

I think your trained Olive

has nailed it there.

I think it confirmed that as

long as she's competing,

she will not accept

anything less than first place.

And in the Torian video,

Maddie Sturt talks about

they had to run in single

file until they got outside the arena.

And when they did,

Tia hit a gear that none of

them could keep up with.

Like, it was immediate.

And Maddie goes,

I was trying everything I

could to keep up.

Not possible.

Yeah,

sometimes you just got to let them go.

The audience was epic,

the Aboriginal dancers.

Yeah.

And they talk about why

they're brought in.

And then there's another

dance group and athletes

dance with them this year.

I'm sure you saw some of

that on social media.

Tia and Guy and Khan learned

the dance moves and went

out and danced with them.

And how much that got the

crowd into it and what a

cool experience it was for

the athletes to be able to do that.

More people touting Jamie's praises.

A question for Carolyn.

What's your goal for the

games as far as being

satisfied finish-wise?

Um, I mean,

I would just want to do the best I can.

Um,

I would like to finish again in the

teens.

I haven't done that in the

last couple of times.

So to me,

cracking the top twenties would

be a good goal realistically.

If I'm just like, like, I'm not, um,

know shooting for a win

against tia here but like

if I can you know get close

on certain events would be

nice um but yeah I think

that would be I'd be um

happy with that but again

you can't control where you

finish um it's

Depends on the workouts.

It depends on the execution, how you feel,

how you're recovering.

There's so many factors when you,

how your mindset is.

Sometimes momentum plays a

big factor when you start

the weekend off and, you know,

you have a couple of things go right.

And all of a sudden you're,

you're in a better head space.

And that's just such a big thing.

Like that's,

that's how I felt going like

at NorCal was in such a

good head space there in

twenty twenty four at the semifinals.

Like I normally have a

really good head space when I compete.

But in twenty twenty four, I was.

you know, out of it mentally.

Once I started being away

from where I was hoping and

where expectation versus where I was.

So, um, yeah,

it's just being realistic and

just doing the best I can

and hoping that I can

execute well on game day to, you know,

balance out my strengths and weaknesses.

Cause there's, you know,

there's some good movements

in some of these walls and

then there's also going to

be bad stuff coming up.

Uh, George, our banks,

how are those crossover

double unders for you?

I think they're fine.

I think as long as my hands

are crisscrossing and not

staying in the same spot as normal,

I do better.

I don't think the workout is

particularly one on that movement.

So I think for the most part,

people will be able to do

like the sets of twenty.

So I think it's more about

think the wall walk speed

just plays a factor and

then I think just like your

transition times um how you

handle the dumbbell will

play a big factor there too

so pressing pressing

workout shoulders a lot of

shoulders uh t money says I

really hope the crowd is

hype the crowds of twenty

thirteen and fourteen they

made the games fun for the

athletes I would I would I hope so too

think all the madison years

were a pretty hype crowd

yeah um it's the it's with

everything that happened

last year and and just the

the ticket sales slump this

year but hopefully a lot of

tickets got sold and

there'll be a lot of people

there we'll find out this

week for sure also no cuts

this year so all athletes

will battle for ranking

until the last event that's great

which I love because to me,

when you make cuts,

like you're saying that

these last events are worth

way more than the previous ones that the,

Table of points changes.

I find the leaderboard is

not accurate after.

Because you finish,

let's say you finish seventeenth,

eighteenth,

but then you miss out on three

to four events,

which could have brought

you back or forward.

So I want to take the same test.

And then here are one

through one through thirty

where athletes finish.

One of your competitors is

trying to get some inside information.

Lucy Campbell,

are you looking forward to

the shoulders on that,

the handstand walk and the

handstand pushups?

Yeah, there's a lot of inversion,

and I think a lot of the workouts,

honestly,

I think the handstand walk speed on the

The deadlift workout is a big factor.

The Hanson pushup is a factor there.

And I do think that the wall

walk speed gets you like

can buy you quite a bit of

time on that workout.

Yeah.

If you're proficient upside

down and you have great pressing strength,

there's a lot of pressing right now.

My following,

I'm looking forward to that

for the shoulders.

I wouldn't say that pressing

is my strength normally.

My follow-up question to Lucy would be,

how is all of that

inversion on your wrist?

Yeah, that's an issue, too,

is the wrist and the extension,

and especially going forward.

And, like, I've had a similar issue, too,

in the last week.

I caught, like,

a power clean a little bit low,

so I've been kind of a

little bit staying away

from very high-volume handstand walking.

But that's the one thing that's – yeah,

it's a lot of – I mean,

the sport's a lot of wrist –

But yeah, it's a lot of upside down,

but I mean,

we're used to like at least

two events normally, but to me,

I think the wall walk and

the handstand walk,

like you could have gotten

rid of like the wall walk

and put something else there.

Or you put them in the same workout where,

you know, certain rounds are wall walks,

certain rounds are

handstand walks versus

having three different inversion.

But maybe he wanted that for each day.

Who knows?

Lucy says, ironically,

I'll be worst on the handstand pushups.

Is that because given the wrist?

Yeah.

Like if it would have been

regular handstand pushups,

would it be better?

Is it because you're holding

onto that parallette and it

forces you into that?

I mean, you can't move it really.

It's like when you have a

barbell and it hurts to have like,

you know,

the weight there on your wrist

and all of a sudden you use

dumbbells or something

that's more vertical.

Right.

And there's nothing here.

Like it just feels better in general.

Yeah.

I like,

I will like play with my

parallettes sometimes.

So they aren't like

perfectly against the wall, but like,

I don't,

I don't know if you guys even

have that kind of play there.

At Rogue,

they don't let you move the

parallettes at all,

which is crazy for some of

the guys that are, you know,

six foot three, six foot four.

That's so narrow.

I'm not sure what they're

going to do here if they if

they're going to allow any

anything within a box or something.

But yeah, that's always interesting.

The standards.

Yep.

Honestly,

we were very tentative on the

large deficits because of the angle.

Yeah, it makes a lot of sense.

All right.

Top ten lists.

Let's do it.

We're ready to do our top ten.

So the first up on the top

ten list are the females.

Okay.

Carolyn did not participate

as she is competing.

I will say, I'm going to say this up front,

Carolyn is just outside the

top ten for me.

I have her in like eleventh, twelfth.

That's where I have her for this year.

And it could swing either way depending on,

like she said,

how the beginning of the week goes.

Right.

But I really,

really think that she's

coming into this year strong.

And so she's just outside of my top ten.

But here is Jamie and I's

top ten picks for the women.

So I'll let Jamie read hers first,

and then I'll read mine.

All right.

You want me to go from the bottom?

Sure.

All right.

B, Segoffi in tenth, then Annika Greer,

Olivia Kerstetter, Maddie Sturt, sixth,

Abby Domet, fifth, Alexis Raptus, four,

Brooke Wells, three, Danielle Brandon,

two, Ariel Loewen, and one,

Tia Claire Toomey.

Can't be beat.

I have Annika Greer in tenth.

Danielle Brandon in ninth.

Fisa Goffey in eighth.

Haley Adams in seventh.

Alexis Raptus in sixth.

Olivia Kerstetter in fifth.

Lucy Campbell in fourth.

Abby Domet in third.

Ariel Low in second.

Tia Claire Toomey in first.

So we agree on the top two.

Yep.

And we got some mixed up.

Then it starts getting really mixed up.

so just some of my thoughts

and I'll let you jump in

jamie is I think lucy

campbell's coming into this

with a lot of momentum um I

didn't really think about

the all the inversion on

her wrist but I'm confident

that she it's only going to

be one bad event and I

think a lot of people will

have a bad event um olivia

kerstetter is really

improving in the areas that

she needed to and she's

going to win some of the strength events

Uh, Raptors.

I just,

I don't have confidence one way or

another,

but I think she'll be right in this,

this area.

Haley is, we don't know.

Um, fee is coming in so strong.

I wanted to move her up,

but I just didn't know where to, um,

Danielle Brandon,

I think in her sleep can

finish in the top ten in

this field with her talent.

I just don't know with

everything going on where that will be,

but I think she can do it in her sleep.

And Annika Greer is going to

win an event or two.

Yes.

And I think with that alone,

that gets her enough points

to propel her up in or

around the top ten.

Yeah.

Annika is incredible at

several gymnastic things, but like

handstand walk great at she

people forget for one so

both of my list men and

women have obviously are

picked off of the events we

know right now more than

just like picking what I

would have picked had I not

known so it's a little bit

weighed heavily to all the

inversion shoulder

handstand walk handstand

walk speed um but annika's

great at classic crossfit

there's a ton of

I mean, it's going to come down to,

I feel like,

movement speed when you get

into classic CrossFit.

So your proportions matter.

So Colton and Annika have a heads up,

I feel like.

Same with Fi.

Originally, Fi was a tough one for me.

Do I put her in the top ten?

She is doing incredible, but

I I think she's also

excellent at classic

crossfit um so I just

there's gonna be workouts

again like scott said

annika is probably gonna

have a couple home runs and

sure is she gonna have a

bad event like number one

yes but so will I like

everyone is gonna have one

bad event danielle's fat

squat probably isn't great

but we still have her pretty high um

I don't know that Olivia's

run will be that great,

but we both still have her quite high.

Everyone's going to have

something not great.

Here's my answer to

everybody saying we're

crazy for having Annika up here.

Look at Gee.

Gee won three events at one

games and finished way low

in everything else and

finished like sixth or seventh.

It doesn't take a lot if you

get some wins.

Hundreds of points add up fast.

And Annika has that same ability.

When you can get a hundred

points or even a top five at the games,

those points go a long way

because a lot of times like

it's the same type of like

same athletes that are

getting those points.

And if you're always like

middle of the pack, you know,

you're just kind of staying

within your bubble.

But if you can go and get those big points,

like it just makes such a big difference.

um overall for the weekend

but yeah annika has a lot

of very good events that

she'll have over the

weekend I agree with that I

heard athletics thank you

for the twenty dollars

carolyn is number one thank

you so annika is not key really

better at crossfit than like

in the box crossfit like

regional style like there's

so many things annika is so

elite at um can do well it

just depends how her like

that mental part is going

to be a big factor it's you

know it's her rookie year

um I don't think she's

going to put a whole bunch

of pressure on herself but

where she's going to be

mentally because now you

know what you consider your

strengths and your

weaknesses all of a sudden

when you're with the best

of the best and you don't

do as well in certain

things or you do better

like you're like we talked

about just it's a momentum

game too at the games and

um how you are yeah then

how is brooke fourth she is

notorious for handstand

push-up lockout never

forget because yeah I i

Well,

because he's saying like the capacity

year.

The problem is because what

you and I see and we would

call it out does not mean

it is going to get called out the games.

It never does.

And that's why these people

continue to move that way.

She will move the way she

always moves and it'll

slide right through at the games.

She will get through just fine.

None of those will be called

no reps for her.

She will be fine.

So I also put out a poll on

YouTube where I asked,

who wins the CrossFit Games

on the female side, Tia or anybody else?

And I was shocked that there

were people that said anybody else.

There was actually,

fourteen percent said

anybody else and eighty six

percent said Tia.

I wish.

They could have read it, too,

as who they want to win.

Maybe they read it that way.

One person actually put a

name to it and said Haley.

Yeah, you guys don't have... Oh, yeah,

I guess Scott has Haley.

Scott does.

So I had Haley in tenth,

and that's where I

struggled between Haley and Fee, but...

I have yet to see... I think

actually Hillard talked about this.

One of them talked about this,

that we haven't seen

Hailey's fitness come back

quite to where... I mean,

there were things I thought

she would do better at at Mayhem Classic,

and I understand there's

been some time since Mayhem Classic.

So she may completely surprise me,

but I've been waiting to

see her fitness shine again,

and I haven't seen it yet.

So...

don't I don't know if the

field has sort of surpassed

her fee looks freaking good

scott not putting brooke in

the top ten is diabolical

here's my thinking she

started off on fire at

syndicate crown and after

the first day she started to fall off

She came in to prove a point.

And by the end of the weekend,

she was getting lower

finishes and lower finishes.

And I just don't think she

has the capacity to sustain

her fitness throughout the

weekend of a nine or ten

event competition.

That's why I took her out of the top ten.

I mean,

just like everyone in here is

commenting Haley is a top

five athlete all the time,

so we should have her up there.

So is Danielle Brandon.

Like, barring a cut, stepping on a line,

which isn't happening this year, Danielle,

she's just good at crossing.

I wouldn't compare Haley's

games matches to Danielle.

I think Haley has been

better and more consistent

over so many years.

Like, she's always, like,

fifth, fourth, sixth,

except for one year in twenty twenty two,

which I don't where I think

she finished like maybe

ninth or something.

But I just feel that Haley

is going to do what she

needs to do to get ready for the games.

I don't know what she looks like right now,

but I know she's fit and

she's always she's always

good at the games.

You can never count her out.

um it's not about benefit

now ever in seventh I I

just I just don't know like we don't know

And then you have this new

budding romance that's going on.

And what, what effect does that have?

And I know that we're not

supposed to think about

that personal lives and whatever,

but it does have an effect.

It may have a very good

effect that she's training

more because she's training with Austin.

It could mean she's not

focused as much because she's training.

Who knows?

We're not going to know

until she gets out there

and takes the floor.

Yeah.

I mean, that, that almost made me put,

put her higher.

You know, there was things like,

the thing is like Olivia is

excellent on her hands too.

So like, cause Olivia was the one I,

like I said,

I had Haley and feed switch there.

And then I put Olivia up

there because I think

Olivia is going to crush the strength.

I think she's better than

people think with her shoulder endurance.

So I don't know, like,

think there's a lot of good

gymnasts in this field like

a lot of good gymnasts

cardio people in this field

and less strength

specialists like when I

look at the female side of

things I think a lot of the

workouts that we think

people are going to be good

inverted like there's going

to be some surprises

because there are some

elite like gymnastics

people in the field absolutely

I was really torn to not put

Saria Meha on the list.

I mean, if you come out and you win,

if you win the online semifinal,

which that's partly why I

have Anika so high.

She got fourth behind Ariel and Alexis.

I think that's a pretty good

subset of in-the-box

CrossFit right there.

So I struggle to not put her on.

I just do not know enough about her.

Yeah, I just, um,

I want to hear Larry say this in person.

She's going to show out for her boo.

I believe it.

I love it.

Um, we ready to move on to the men.

Now we have three charts for the men.

Let's go.

Here we go.

Carolyn, go ahead.

Read yours first.

This is as long as everyone's healthy.

Jeff Adler, Dallin Pepper, Jason Hopper.

In fourth, Austin Hatfield.

Fifth, Justin Medeiros.

Sixth, James Sprague.

Seventh, Roman Krennikov.

Eighth, Ricky Garrard.

Ninth, Jay Crouch.

And tenth, Colton Mertens.

That's what I have.

Jamie?

All right.

I have Jeff Adler in first,

Austin Hatfield in second,

Jason Hopper in third.

Then Dallin, Colton, James, Justin, Jay,

Roman, Ricky.

I'll do mine.

Countdown style, Colton Mertens, tenth.

Roman Kronikoff, ninth.

Justin Medeiros, eighth.

Ricky Gerrard, seventh.

Jay Crouch, sixth.

Austin Hatfield, five.

Jason Hopper, four.

James Sprague, three.

Dallin Pepper, two.

Jeff Adler, one.

this was the hardest ranking

I think I've ever done in

all my time of doing a

podcast it was very hard do

we have the exact ten

athletes just in different

orders like I'm trying to

see if there's any

different names in there

I do think we have the exact same ten.

Just different order, yeah.

Which is crazy.

Yeah, this men's field is stacked.

And again,

depending on execution and just

different things going your

way on the weekend,

that order can change so much.

just health like we don't

know everyone's health

going into the games there

could be some nagging

injuries I know jeff in his

road to the games talked

about that he hasn't been

doing certain lifts or

maybe it hasn't been as

strong right now so again

we don't know everyone that

everyone is going in a

hundred percent on every

single thing um to me on paper

Jeff is the fittest if he is

healthy and performs the

way that I feel he should or can, um,

over ten events or eleven events,

whatever it'll be.

Yeah, Colton was my questionable ranking.

If he's healthy, once again, like an Anika,

like classic cross,

his range of motion just

makes him win things.

Um,

And he's when you don't have

a lot along with his

fitness makes him win things.

Well, yeah,

the dude is incredibly fit and

he's improved so much on

his running that he's like

not even going to take that

same hit that Anika is going to.

So I just I feel like if he

comes in healthy,

if he can squat what we

think he can squat.

he's gonna do very well.

Yeah,

that's the thing is we don't know

where he is at after NorCal

and his back issue that he

had felt like a small pulp

or whatever it was.

So if he's healthy,

we know he's gonna have

some home runs on some of these events.

And he could certainly be

higher than this if he's

able to get a few in his wheelhouse,

that's for sure.

So Kenneth the Lab, Colton Wins,

you all are crazy.

CJ, not a chance, KDL.

And I'm with CJ.

The highest finish Colton

has ever had is nineteenth.

What is going to happen all

of a sudden that jumps him

eighteen spots to number one?

Oh,

I think he's the fittest he's ever been.

He may be the fittest he's ever been,

but his problem has always

been sustaining over the weekend,

and that is all the events,

because he does have to

exert more effort to

overcome his stature in some events,

and he has to pay that

penalty throughout a longer weekend.

He is better on a short

weekend than a long weekend,

and that is the problem with the winning.

If you would have said he podiums,

I'd say he has a shot.

But winning, my God,

it would take something

miraculous to happen.

And I love Colton.

Colton is my friend.

I love him to death.

But my God,

that's a massive jump from ninth to that.

I love that you have Dillon in second.

Me?

Scott does.

Oh, yeah, you both do.

You both have Dallin.

Look at you two.

That's cute.

Yeah, I think Dallin's looking good.

He's fit.

I think some of these events

are great for Jason right now, though.

Yeah, I see him executing well.

I think he's not going to

have a bad event in anything.

He's just very well-rounded.

He's a great crossfitter in terms of

different things that can

get thrown at him.

Yeah,

I think Dallin's going to have a

great weekend.

Here's my thing with why I

have Dallin and James ahead of Jason.

Dallin and James have been there before,

whether it be the team games,

whether it be the games.

They both have been in that

crucial moment where they

have to perform at the very end to win.

And we haven't seen that from Jason yet.

I mean, he got on the podium at Rogue.

He got at the podium at WFP, Hopper,

that is.

So I just think that he is

building some momentum and

some confidence.

He's seen Dallin train,

and he's going toe-to-toe

with him sometimes.

I think he can do it.

I think he can get onto the

podium this year.

I think he was just shy last year.

What did he finish last year, fourth?

And he's been on the podium

on some of the major events

that he's done ever since.

So I think it's looking good.

Like that echo bike workout

with the handstand pushups,

I'd be surprised if anyone

beats him on that one.

He should be good at

basically everything that's been.

I like the workouts released

so far for him, for sure.

Craig asks,

does James have a chance at

repeating this games?

Yes, absolutely.

Absolutely.

Everybody in my top seven

has a chance to repeat.

Or not to repeat, but to win the games.

Maybe even top eight.

Maybe nine.

Nine.

My top nine have a chance to

win the games.

I'd say top eight.

I think if Roman's healthy, he could win.

We just haven't seen a healthy Roman.

healthy roman healthy ricky

some of these events look

really good for justin

though right now like

really good and I think

this is the fittest we've

seen justin in three years

absolutely and like if you

talk about three inverted

events do you see some of

the stuff he did against I

know all those handstand

stuff that he did against

james like that was so impressive yeah

Um, like he's so good on his hands.

His overhead mobility is great.

He's able to run again after

so many years of just having pain, um,

with his running.

I think he's slowly starting

to figure that out.

If someone knows how to back squat,

the power lifting way, you know,

James or Justin has been

working so much with Jesse

and his crew on power lifting.

Um, he's a great squatter.

Like these,

these are really good events

for Justin right now.

Yeah.

So I would not be shocked if

any of the top nine win.

And I wouldn't be shocked if

we see somebody outside the

top ten jump in there.

Into the top ten?

I saw Bill Leahy mentioned earlier.

Sure.

He could have a good weekend.

Tudor Magda.

Tudor.

If he could get his mind

right for one weekend,

he could be up there.

I have Tudor as my honorable

mentions because these

workouts were released so far.

Tudor's quick on his hands.

That one's going to be good.

Yeah.

I guess I don't know what

his like capacity on a like

deep deficit handstand pushup.

But yeah, I think, I mean,

I think his squat's going

to be pretty darn good.

Do you think that proven

group has a headstart as

they've been training with Tia?

That has never been a

favorable thing in the past.

Does it mean it's not going

to be this year?

I don't know.

I would hate personally to

have a training camp the

way that like they've had

for like a few weeks where

everyone is there.

Like, I feel like that would just as,

as good as that is to compete,

like the way that they're

having to compete against

each other all the time.

And he's like,

I personally wouldn't like that.

I don't think going into.

the main event like I would

go to one weekend one

training camp and I did

okay I got what I needed I

don't need to go against

everyone every single time

um I don't know like I

don't know how how how it

is for like all those other

athletes mentally to do

workouts against tia every

single day like multiple

pieces and like yeah it's

great to compare but um

I like that I'm not part of

the training camp prior to

the games for that kind of stuff.

Wouldn't be for me.

But I think it's cool that

they're getting all that

coaching and stuff.

And they have so many

athletes going to the games.

Very successful year for that group.

I honestly think Tia just

beats everybody down and

Proven shows up busted.

Yeah, that would be my worry a little bit.

That's been kind of the

thing that's happened in the past.

Doesn't mean it'll happen this year.

Maybe they've learned from that.

Maybe, I don't know.

But they, yeah,

Carolyn makes excellent points.

Yeah, well, Raph says it.

If you're at a training camp,

you need to know the

difference between training

and competing.

I mean, you literally probably can't.

be competing against tia

daily that's that's a

recipe for disaster but

they're like doing matchups

and heats and all that and

I don't know I wouldn't

like that not not for that

long anyways for like a

quick weekend to get a

little tune up maybe a

month a bit a month before

the games I'd like that but

like for a few weeks prior

to the games I think that'd

get hard to do yeah yeah

But the people at Proven are smart.

So they've probably learned.

They're not going to show us

everything that's going on there.

We only get the highlight reel.

And they might have information too.

Yeah.

Sorry.

what are you saying carolyn

no I'm just saying like

it's there's an advantage

of being part of a training

camp let's be honest yep

like every year there's an

advantage being part of a

training camp so who knows

they can not be showing us

certain stuff people were

doing the right versions of

chad last year at other

training camps and um who

knows but there's some

advantages to being with

training camps and I think

there's also some disadvantages so if

is that so I'm going to pull

down our picks and I'm

going to pull up the men's

poll as I was able to put a

few more names into that

one um if it'll let me

remove it there we go and

if I share my screen

carolyn do you think there

will be double unders in

another workout just

regular double unders or do you think

I don't think so with the

amount of running that we have so far.

And then there's machine,

there's two machines that

we've seen so far, right?

The row echo bike,

like we could maybe see another ski.

Um, I don't know.

I don't think they should

have double unders in there.

Yeah.

I think,

I think because you're at the games,

there's so many other

things that you can do for

monostructural work that you don't need,

um, two skipping ropes there.

Um,

so I put out a poll who wins a CrossFit

games for men.

And this is what came back.

I put the three former champs.

Yeah.

Jeff, James, Justin and other.

And I don't know what that says.

Oh, add name to comments.

I see.

And so we did get sixteen comments.

Colton Mertens, Roman, Colton Mertens,

Dallin Pepper, Dallin Pepper.

Jeff is a safe bet with

until more events are released.

Roman, Austin, Dallin, Adler,

but don't sleep on Colton.

Hopper and Hatfield are

fighting for the top spot.

And then someone asked,

why is Adler the favorite?

He only won after Roman got hurt.

Hate that story.

Wow.

Dallin Pepper, Dallin.

So lots of votes for Dallin.

A couple for Colton.

More for Roman than I would have expected.

Honestly.

Yeah.

So those are the votes from our audience.

Any thoughts about that?

You're surprised about Roman.

Yeah,

I am kind of surprised there was that

many votes for Roman.

To win it?

I don't know.

Yeah, like nobody commented Ricky?

Nope, no Rickys.

That many Romans and zero Rickys.

That does sort of surprise me.

CJ says,

I enjoy and respect proven to be clear,

but bringing on athletes

already at games level is

much different than

bringing someone up from nothing.

Everybody has their own business model.

I will say that.

Do they have the most athletes that have,

they have to have the most

individual athletes that have qualified?

Yeah.

Mayhem is Haley, Roman, Jorge, Austin,

Austin.

Trying to think.

Well,

What does that say about them?

Like see,

so every day is an opportunity says CJ,

they tried to bring those

type of athletes and they didn't last.

I mean,

does that mean they're riding them

too hard?

Like pushing them way too hard,

way too soon.

Why can't they last?

Why can't they,

why can't they bring somebody up?

Proven you mean?

Yeah.

I think they're going to try with, I mean,

Lucy's already been, Lucy McGonigal,

I'm talking about Lucy Campbell,

but she was already like a games athlete,

like teen.

But I think they're going to

try to like mold her into the,

maybe the next.

Every day is an opportunity,

says Ricky is washed.

I'm sorry.

He won Torian.

That was a pretty good field

to win against.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And we all have Jay, like,

so he beat Jay head to head, right?

Yep.

But we,

I think we all have Jay ahead of

him here.

I don't know where they were

finishes-wise.

Actually,

I think I remember Ricky being very,

very consistent there.

Because I was going to say,

because sometimes when it's

very top-heavy, if you have one bad event,

there's no recovering.

It's harder almost sometimes

with a top-heavy field and

no depth where you're just

kind of interchanging top threes.

But I think Ricky was very

consistent there and looked good.

Yeah.

Votes for potential rookies of the year,

male and female side.

Well, I've got Anika in my top ten.

That would be the highest placed.

And they only do one,

so I would say Anika for

Rookie of the Year.

They've done two on a couple occasions.

Never when Dave has done the programming.

I don't remember.

And last year,

we didn't have an awards ceremony,

so nobody... If they won those,

it was in private,

and we don't know who won.

Um...

But it was only in the Bosch

year where they gave away

two rookies of the year.

Yeah, I totally agree with Annika.

But on the men's side,

I would probably give it to Bill Leahy.

I think he'll be up there.

Yep.

I think he has the potential

to be the most consistent through this.

Ty will be good too.

Ty is a good pick.

Yeah,

I will be curious between the two of

them who finishes higher.

Ty could finish top ten, too,

and I probably wouldn't

even blink an eye.

Yeah, I totally agree.

It's hard to pick these

things when I don't have

the roster in front of me.

Yeah.

Well, we need to know all the events, too.

True.

There's a lot more stuff

that could come out.

change some of our back on

ricky is a wash uh ricky

won four of six events at

taurian yeah that's very

impressive that was good

programming too like yeah

that was that's my favorite

of the semi-finals

programming was that one thank you cj

Uh, we should do a poll.

If you were a semifinals athlete,

never been to the games,

what camp would you choose?

Assuming you want to camp.

I wish I knew how to do a poll.

I need to figure that out.

I really do.

Um,

your channel again this week and we can

bring it up on next week's show.

Like you.

Oh yeah.

I'll put, okay.

I'll put it on the poll for this week.

Yeah.

I don't, I, I'm kind of,

I want to go the Carolyn way.

I don't think camps are the

right answer anymore.

I think they're good to kind

of – you go there for like

a quick weekend or get some eyes on you,

battle it out for a little bit,

and then you go back and

you train with your community.

I'm going to figure out this pole thing.

That's going to be my task.

I know you can do them live.

I know.

I just don't know how.

I'm going to see Caleb this weekend.

Maybe I'll ask him.

Yeah.

And then –

And in the meantime,

I'll put it out on YouTube tonight.

We'll have it for one of our

games discussions.

Jamie and I are going to try to go live.

She doesn't know this.

Most of the nights of the games.

Okay.

If she's available,

Carolyn will hop on if

she's not in bed already.

And we're going to try to do

that throughout the games weekend.

But I do want to talk about that topic.

I still really want to try to get there.

I just,

I don't know that I can come before

Saturday.

I think I have a closing on Friday.

I should know tomorrow if

it's going to be Friday,

because that would be what

would limit me.

So I wouldn't even be able

to leave till probably butt

crack of dawn on Saturday

morning or late Friday night.

I have a pull out couch.

All right.

What else do we got going on?

All right.

I've been talking about it all week.

I really love the

partnerships that the games

are doing this year at the games.

I think the heat one app is

probably the most

significant partnership

because it does give people

the ability to participate.

place a wager.

I know it's not really money,

but on who's going to win.

And whenever you have a vested interest,

you're going to watch the

event and that brings viewership.

So that's a great partner.

I think the zone is a great partner.

And that is, um,

that it's small and they

need to grow just as much

as CrossFit needs to grow.

So it's a partnership where

you promote each other.

And I think that's way

better than having some

behemoth that doesn't

really care if you're there or not.

Ruck Race League is Saturday morning.

They're going to do a big

community ruck race.

Arm Wrestling with Travis Bajent.

I think that's awesome,

and they're going to give

away prizes when you arm wrestle.

Mayhem Spectator Workouts on Saturday.

Look at this.

We have a volunteer.

We'd love to hop on in the lives with you,

Scott.

If you need some backup,

I'll be out there all weekend.

Oh, that'd be awesome.

Allison.

I will reach out to you.

I still have your phone number.

I think so.

Um, yeah, we'll talk for sure.

Yeah.

She can have a team coverage.

I'm sure she'll be watching Raf's team.

Did you put lunchtime shows

on hold until after the games?

I did not.

We're going to be back tomorrow.

Now they may go on hold during the games,

but I'm going to still do

them up into the games.

You leave Thursday.

I leave.

I think I'm leaving Tuesday night.

Oh, geez.

You're trying to... Is there

something... I'm trying to

start capturing Hattie Wednesday.

Is her check-in on Wednesday?

It's on Tuesday.

Yeah, check-ins are on Tuesday.

She's capturing her check-in for me.

Okay.

I'm going to try to get to gyms with her,

do some stuff, some dinners,

different things like that.

Uh...

There is a chance Tyson

Bajent will be here.

We actually have a question

coming up on that.

He was awesome this morning

on the Savant podcast.

I was giddy listening to him

talk about the Bears and

where they're at this year.

Barry said something here.

My IG post got a ton of comments.

It did.

Because people just don't understand.

People don't listen.

And they think they hear what I say.

What was your post?

What did I miss?

I said that the world

fitness project is not done

very much promotion.

Yeah.

Yeah.

About any other aspect about

the WFP other than their promotion.

I know people hear what they

want to hear and they want to argue.

And it is just about their promotion.

I know it was clear to me.

And I showed numbers.

Why one is different than the other.

That's it.

That's okay.

okay let's go to factor

fiction and we we've upped

our game this week where I

can actually show the

questions on the screen so

this goes out to my two

co-hosts and I pipe in at

the end factor fiction a

pure crossfit program games

is what both crossfit and

the community need to get a

full reset and move forward

I'm really torn on this.

I'm going to say fiction.

I just think there's

something special about the

games when there's these new,

innovative events, movements,

things that get brought

back to the community and

progress year to year.

To me, it's almost like, for one,

and this kind of goes back

to my comment with Brooke, like

brooke will get away with

what she always gets away

with and I don't think

that's good for the sport

there will be questionable

movement I feel like in on

the floor and for classic

crossfit like if wall balls

look like like when in the

past when we've seen like

someone like danny

spiegel's wall balls and

getting videoed like you

don't want to see that and promote that

Cause that's what gets back

to the community.

And that's how people start to move.

And that's,

I feel like why things have

gone down this path where people like,

I see,

I see other people moving sometimes

and I'm like,

where did you get the idea

that that was okay?

And then the more I look at things,

I'm like, well, that's,

that's where it happens at

the fricking cross the games.

Carolyn.

Uh, I'll say fiction.

Cause I do like the,

like the implements that

you just can't do at home.

Um,

I,

the only good part about it being like

classic CrossFit,

like more in the box style

is that a lot of people

will be able to test these workouts,

like in their own little version, um,

in their home affiliate to compare to the,

to the elite athletes.

I think that part is good.

That part is like, um,

important that people can

also do some of it.

Do I think that they should

be able to do all the workouts?

No,

I think that there's something unique

and special about the

CrossFit Games that you

just want to have

implements that you can

never do at your home

affiliate and only at the

CrossFit Games you get to see that.

And that's the cool part.

It's the visually appealing.

That's the show that you see

on the documentaries and all that,

which they are making a documentary,

they said, this year.

Oh, they're not going to, huh?

No, they said they are.

Oh, okay.

Sorry.

CJ,

we need a CrossFit Games that every

workout is entertaining, motivating,

and iconic.

That is what we need this year.

We need to draw the eyes.

Yeah.

Fiction, but better than last year.

Someone agrees with,

T-Money agrees with Jamie.

Wouldn't one new thing still

be classic CrossFit?

The games will suffer from

not having outdoor events,

except the first.

I agree with that

wholeheartedly being outside, man.

That's always been a thing for me.

Like even when I go to like,

when we went with you, Scott to Orlando,

it's,

It's hard for me to go

somewhere nice and be stuck inside.

I don't like that.

And if I'm going somewhere for three,

four days,

it's only three days for you guys,

I want to be outside for

some of my vacation.

I don't want to be in a cold

convention center.

I think they do need to be more outside.

I know this is not significant to anything,

but yes, please name the workouts.

I can't remember the numbers.

I can remember names.

Yeah.

You can do that for one year

and one year only where

that event is going to be

known as IE one or two.

And we'll still not even

remember what those are.

But name the damn workouts

so that they're memorable.

All I can remember hearing

is people who won trophies.

I think Emily Rolfe told me this.

that the year was twenty

nineteen when they did all

the cuts and all of the

events were named first cut, second cut,

third cut.

She said nothing is worse

than getting a trophy for

winning an event.

And it's saying third cut.

It sounds like you lost or

that you were booted and

that's what's on your

trophy for the rest of your life.

I mean,

it's not the worst problem to have

to have a trophy of winning

an event at the CrossFit Games.

True, true.

third cut but yes they

should they should be named

uh as a fellow new yorker

trust me you don't want to

be outside in albany well

we should have stayed in madison

first cut was iconic I think

if if that's the one name

was first cut and that

makes sense but and

everyone everyone knows

that workout too like you

say first cut and everyone

knows that workout in the

crossfit space um because

that one was memorable once

you start saying second

third fourth you're like I

don't know which one this one is

All right, let's go to the next one.

Factor Fiction.

Holly, our facts and information person,

exposed a running event for

the age group CrossFit

Games by finding the

application here in

Columbus for the Olentangy Trail.

And any efforts that the

legends have subsequently

made making a denial are

just covering their tracks.

I say fact.

They have the Teams Legends

events that they've released.

I think they were programmed by Mayhem,

if I'm not mistaken.

And like the one event is a

three and a half K run.

Are these programmed by Mayhem?

Yeah, what's not programmed by Mayhem?

Three and a half K run, four K rolling,

three and a half K run.

And it's like a double scored event,

which was seven K,

which is one of the things

that they were applying for.

Um, seven K of running, um, and like,

it's a two scored event and

one event score is the

three and a half K plus the

four K on the row.

And then the second score is

like your total time,

which I think you're just

getting two hundred points

to the same people.

Yeah.

Like.

just it doesn't need to be a

double scored event like

that if that's the team event um

If people don't know, Holly sent me,

she posted and then she

sent me the application

that names them and pit

prodigies as the

application to use the trail in a five K,

six K and seven K denominations.

We posted that legends then said, well,

here are the real events.

And they showed someone wrestling a bear,

showed someone doing a

squat with a million things on them, um,

trying to deflect.

And they said fake news on our post.

So is it a,

like a seven K is it like a

three and a half K out and back?

Is that what's been applied for?

You know,

It doesn't show how far the trail.

But it's a long trail.

It goes from downtown

Columbus to up by my house,

which is like twenty miles away.

So I think they're asking

for increments along that trail.

I just feel like

because my original thought

was they were going to try

to do something similar to

the individual individual

event one of the games and

also row in there but if

they've applied for seven k

of distance on that trail I

don't honestly don't see I

don't see how they would do

that I mean because you

wouldn't run you wouldn't

run seven k then you would

only run a four k

like a two K out, two K back row,

and then go run another.

So like if seven K is blocked off, I mean,

I feel like we're just straight running,

which.

That's what I thought too.

I love running.

Yeah.

But I, I,

it just as much as I think the

back squat is not a great workout.

I, if it's just a straight run,

I don't think that's a great workout.

Like I,

And it pains me to say that

because... And most likely

the same person would win the five K,

the six K and the seven K.

It'd be the same thing.

Well,

that will be... I think that's for

age group difference.

So like the sixty,

like I would assume it'd

probably be sixteen all the

way to like forty nine is

going to run seven K. Fifty,

the fourteen and fifteen

year old... I'm saying,

do you even need those

extra two kilometers?

Like I still think the same,

the same athletes...

five six seven are pretty

pretty set yeah I don't

think that they would need

three different distances

is what I'm saying you

could just do a five k

right but we already did

that so isn't legends being

programmed by boulder

athlete jason grubb the

legends is being programmed

by them the games is being

programmed by legends bob and joe

The famous Bob and the team

workouts that I'm talking about,

and are not that have been

released that I'm talking

about were programmed by mayhem.

And they separate little

division at the age group crossing games.

Yeah.

Well, yeah,

it's just a community thing

that you could just sign up for it.

You didn't there was no

qualification for it.

It is not part of the games.

Yes,

being done at the same place as the

games.

Another new member, AZZaki.

Thank you so much.

Glad you could be a member.

We love having you guys.

Holly clears up.

The five K, six K,

seven K was just a

description on the application.

There wasn't a specific

distance of the trail marked off.

Okay.

Interesting.

I don't know.

Yeah.

I will be very curious to

see what comes out of this.

But yeah,

we're definitely out there running them,

them trying to post anything otherwise is,

I mean, they've already said,

like in that master share, they said,

bring some, like,

you're going to be outside for something,

bring sunscreen,

or I don't know what they

said on the master share,

something to the effect

that we're going outside

for a little bit.

All right, let's move on to the next one.

Factor fiction.

Tia will never retire and

win at least ten times.

Fiction.

I don't know.

I almost say fact.

I think she's going for another,

do you think this year and

then two more years after?

I do think.

I think that's, well, unless there's any.

I think this is her last one.

If there's any truth to the

pregnancy or they're going to be trying,

she may be done.

But I think she could come

back and win another one.

And I think she'll say, why not?

I didn't,

I didn't say she couldn't come

back and win.

I just think, I think that she'll,

I think that this will be her last year.

I think she's going to still

have it and she's going to

want to still compete and

she's still going to have it.

Yeah.

So why not?

I, I, I,

after watching those two documentaries,

the road to the games with

her and the Torian pro thing,

I don't think she'll ever retire.

She said after Torian, they asked her,

are you going to go to the games?

And her plan was not to,

if you hear Shane and she's like, well,

I had the fire and I

thought if I still have the fire,

why not go?

Exactly.

And then she's going to

finish the games and

realize I still have the fire.

Exactly.

And I can mess around and do

other things and.

And still come with.

Season and still come and win.

Exactly.

Exactly.

don't think she'll retire

high rocks I think she's

going to put some more

effort into that too but

she will give up the

greatest marketing ploy

ever brought up by carolyn

privo and and graphed out

by raftaran it's still the

infinity she's just going

to keep winning it works it

is it is a great marketing

to do though to do that

eight there infinity

I don't know.

I just think with her daughter, you know,

starting to get a little

bit older where it's going to be,

you want to be there for certain parts of,

you know, her development in her life.

I just see her maybe taking

a little bit of a step back.

CJ says she has an addiction

problem for sure.

Part of me when I wrote this

was I'm being facetious.

Because I didn't really think this.

But then I'm like, she could finish and go,

well,

I am only two away from like ten in

a row.

Or not ten in a row, but ten.

Yeah.

Ten minus the one year.

And then it's only two more years.

Yep.

Good point as well.

Also depends on what the new owners do.

That's true.

Yep, we'll see what the prize purse is.

Owners could make the money less,

keep it the same,

or make a million for the first.

You never know.

Ain't never going to be a

million right now.

No.

Okay.

Okay.

Here we go.

Last one, and the most important one.

Fact or fiction?

Scott,

the lifelong Bears fan will turn

into a twelve-year-old boy

if he gets to meet Tyson Bajent.

Fact.

You're just a little too

composed for me to say fact to this.

I think you will be ecstatic,

but you will not be

I am really composed around CrossFitters.

I've done it, and I do pretty well there.

I don't know.

I think I will turn into a

mush ball if I get to meet Tyson Bajent.

If people don't realize,

I listen to two types of podcasts,

CrossFit, Chicago Bears, all day long.

That's all I listen to.

What if you interview him?

oh lord I don't know I don't

know someone check on scott

yeah see I need to make it

there saturday if that's

what day is coming just to

see this and just throw

down on him okay I think I

think we need to make that

interview happen

Grey Worm, I follow everything Bears,

from number one on the

depth chart to the

fifty-third man on the roster.

Every bit of it.

Oh, my gosh.

I would... I'm getting

goosebumps right now

thinking about the possibility.

Right.

Someone clip that and send it to Tyson.

Well, I just wanted to...

Clock,

would you also gush if you met Carm?

No.

And Carm is the host of one

of the podcasts that both

Clock and I watch.

Even though Clock denied it

the first time I asked him,

I keep seeing him in the chat.

But yeah, I would not gush over Carm.

Adam Hogue, maybe.

Carm, never.

All right,

so that's Factor Fiction for this week.

We also got a big announcement today.

Carolyn shared that.

I need to get to banners.

There we go.

And that is,

we got a big announcement

today that an old

CrossFitter is dusting off

the Metcons and heading

back out onto the floor one last time.

And I'm going to try to look

it up real quick.

So if you did not see this today,

a team member of one of the

teams out there lost a

member due to injury and

Miss Kristen Holta is going

to fill in due to an

unfortunate injury to Ingrid Hodenmeier.

She is out and I have been

asked to step in for team

CrossFit Oslo Krieger.

When your team needs you, you show up.

So there is Kristen Holta as

the new team member for team Oslo-Krager.

What do we think about that?

It's not a bad replacement, huh?

It's not a bad replacement.

Man.

Grant, or CJ, talk to her at NorCal.

Stoked to see her back on the floor.

One of the best CrossFitters of all time.

That's a huge advantage.

Yeah,

just a sub that maybe a former podium

finisher.

Always like top, definitely always top ten,

but like around the seventh

place and yeah.

CJ asks, did they get better?

She's a different type of athlete.

Like Ingrid's super, super strong.

I think Ingrid had a baby last year.

Am I wrong thinking that?

Ingrid's very, very strong,

but Holt is just so well-rounded.

They're better.

There's no way that you

can't be better at having

Chris and Holt on your team.

Yeah, I don't know that at the downgrade.

Hopefully it brings some

eyes to the team competition.

There's some teams that are

going to be really good this year.

Grey Worms saying Mayhem wins?

I don't know.

Invictus is strong.

Literally.

Well, they have Danny.

That's Danny's team, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Isn't that like Danny Chandler?

Is Jesse doing it again?

I thought so.

So it's Danny, Jesse.

I don't know.

I don't think it's Jesse.

I think it's Emily Reth.

Oh, it is Emily?

Over Jesse?

I think it's Emily Rethwill.

We're so good at the team stuff.

I have not been...

nope that's not where I've

been it's a great team

nonetheless though but I

don't think chandler and

jesse are doing it it's uh

emily and danny I think are

the females and the males

is it still el chama no no

bill and it's danny okay

allison's got it do all

since phil sean danny emily

okay which danny and emily

are completely different

athletes right if you talk

about one of the best

runners in the field like

emily is a great great

runner comes from a track

background and then danny

not as as good of a runner

but so strong and emily I

think would say that she's

probably not the strongest

um but then the gymnastics

wise I think both are good

so I think that's a pretty

good compliment for like

both females yeah I'm not

familiar with them phil

mozzarella which is actually muscatella

Muscarella.

Muscarella.

I read that and I saw

nothing wrong with that name.

Phil Muscarella.

Yeah.

Phil Toon.

Oh boy.

Yeah.

We don't need to talk Phil Toon anymore.

So yeah, that was big news.

Kristen coming back.

I think that's awesome.

Yeah.

We also heard this week that

Brookwell says goodbye.

Yeah.

It was her dream to do ten.

She's doing ten.

She's launching at the end of the month.

I've already given my

opinion on where she's going to finish,

which was not high.

Jamie thought she would finish high,

but she has had a pretty amazing career.

She has.

I think she dominated the syndicate crown,

though,

and there were some great athletes there.

I just think she had a

better front end than a back end of that,

and I worry about sustained

volume over a long weekend.

She finished lower teens at the WFP.

Do you think if there was a Hall of Fame,

Brooke would be in it?

sure yeah that's a long

career like there's not a

lot of athletes that have

done ten individual right

on the female side is like

did rebecca would do ten

with the individuals or is

that with the masters I

know she's past that now

but yeah like I don't know

that many that have ten on

the female side

But, yeah, absolutely.

Like,

I think that she was – she played a

critical part in, you know,

the growth of the sport

marketing herself.

Like, look at how many followers she has.

I think she has, like,

close to a couple millions.

Yeah,

I think she would be a no-brainer for

a Hall of Fame.

Kenneth Leps's first ballot vote.

Meredith,

anyone with that long of a career

should be in the Hall of Fame.

I don't want to make that

statement because you'd

have to see what the career was.

I think it's so hard to do

ten years individual.

Agreed.

I think that what she's done

is pretty hard to do.

Did she ever podium?

I don't think she did.

I think she finished fourth one year.

Did she finish fifth at the

Ranch Games in twenty twenty?

She did.

Like Tia with this year.

Has ten as well, right?

With her to second place and then.

Yes, possibly eight.

yeah that's crazy too when

they were doing the road to

the games and she was like

again and then I won again

and then I won again I was

like my god that's it oh

just just kept saying and

then I came back and won

again no crossfit does not

have a hall of fame I just

said if they did

I think the longevity is fine,

but she also had a ton of

top ten finishes.

Yeah.

Right.

She's been a very good athlete.

Yeah.

All right.

Last thing on the list is

demo team was announced this week.

And it ended up being.

Sure.

I did not write it down, of course.

But one thing I've been

talking about this week,

and Carolyn can speak to this,

is it's a really cool thing

to be invited to the demo team,

but it can be a great advantage.

From the last three years,

forty-one percent of the

people on the demo team are

in this year's games.

So that's telling you that

they've learned something

in that time with Dave and testing,

and then now can translate

that into what you can do

with your career.

And so we have Caroline Stanley,

we have Kyra Milligan,

we have Christine Kohlenbrander,

we have Royce Dunn, Nate Ackerman,

and... Rafa Sanson.

Rafa Sanson.

Yeah, it's pretty good.

Carolyn, your experience?

I had a great experience.

I would never turn that down.

I think it was really cool

to look at the behind the

scenes and how much they

really care about getting

the right stimulus, the right program,

everything done well.

Yeah,

it was a unique way to test the games

without being there because

when you're inviting

someone to be on the demo team,

you're inviting some of the

people that are just on the bubble,

which is why you are

grabbing good people that

can qualify the next year

or within a couple of years normally.

I thought it was a great

experience when I did it.

I got to meet

you know, really cool people on the staff,

um,

and just kind of experience the games

in a different, unique way.

Um, yeah, I love my experience.

There's just, and we've talked about it,

you know, you talked about it on your,

on your lunch.

So like,

there's some perception sometimes

when certain athletes are

chosen on the demo team

that are affiliated with training camps.

Um,

like I'm not a part of a training camp.

So like,

I didn't really talk to any of the

athletes.

Like, like it was like a high, but like,

I'm not going in their hotel rooms,

you know, during that weekend,

I'm not talking, you know,

with their coaches,

they're like my friends and

just sitting down because like,

you're not putting yourself

in any position where it looks bad.

Um, and like,

you don't want to give any information.

So I just hope that there's, um,

know no leaks like there's

been leaks almost every

single year whether it's

the demo athletes or

whether it's the testing

athletes or people that are

present during testing

because it doesn't

necessarily needs to be the

athletes it could be other

people that are present but

you know the perception of

having you know a couple

mayhem athletes on the demo

team proven even brute I

think I think rafa's brute

if I'm not mistaken I don't

know what's christine is

she anything or no

but it's also hard to find

good athletes that are

going to be testing and

like not affiliated with

some sort of um people so

you hope that they take

their ndas seriously um

Like I know I do and I want

nothing more than a fair competition.

Like I don't want to give

any advantage to anyone

when I test workouts for a

rogue the last couple of years.

And no one even knew that until, you know,

my picture was posted and I was like,

you just don't talk about it.

But yeah,

you just want to make sure that

it's a fair competition in

terms of no information and everyone,

you know,

is getting the same information

at the same time.

Because I think that's really important.

Um, cause it's just, yeah, you, you want,

you want a fair chance.

Uh,

I heard athletics asks Caroline out of

curiosity,

is there anything in place to

make the demo team not

share any information with the outside?

You mentioned NDAs.

Yeah, there's,

there's an NDA that you sign.

Um, absolutely.

Um,

but you still have athletes that will

go and hang out sometimes

like outside of once through,

once you're done with your

job for the day, you're testing.

can still kind of walk

around and normally you

kind of stay together as a

demo team but you still in

the evening there's nothing

that's like stopping you

from going into someone's

hotel room and saying

whatever like if I'm being

honest like you could and

no one would know that like

some people take the nda

seriously like I like

that's what I'm saying is I

I take my nda extremely

seriously and it's like

Yeah.

Like I've had some people

try to DM me on Instagram

and had wanted to ask

questions and it's like, no.

Even just stimulus,

like how did that feel?

What was your time?

It's like you shouldn't talk

about anything.

Like you shouldn't even say

what your time was.

I think that's an advantage

in saying this was my time.

Like you shouldn't talk

about anything that you tested,

whether like if they can go

and test it or they can

have their partners test it

if they want at their

affiliate somewhere else.

But you shouldn't give any

information of the test that you did.

That's how I've always looked at the NBA,

and that's how I've always

felt that you should treat

being like a tester or demo team.

Judy Reed asks,

does demo team literally go

out and demo the workout on

the floor prior to the game's athletes?

And then you can chime in here too,

but Allison jumps in.

Who was captain of the demo team twice?

Demo the briefings, sometimes on the floor,

but it's rare, testing some events.

yeah so like testing the

good thing is a lot of the

individual events have

already been like I would

say what half have been

released so far so I mean

with the possibility of

twists that could still

happen but they'll test a

lot of times also the team

workouts not just the

individual or we even

tested some of the adapted

stuff too which was cool

Um, but yeah, you can, you,

you do the briefings and everything else.

When was the last time

CrossFit took action on it

for a breached NDA?

Not sure they have in a while.

They used to really harshly

back in the day.

I have not heard of that lately.

And heard says,

does it come with a

four-year ban if they catch

you sharing info?

That was actually a question

we posed on this show.

Should CrossFit,

A breached NDA result in the

same type of ban as a

performance enhancing drug suspension.

But no, it does not.

Bothers a lot.

But I do think like a lot of

people do take their NDAs

very seriously and, you know,

Like I'm not saying that

like everyone's leaking everything,

but I'm just saying it's

the perception that it

doesn't look good when you see

you know your twin sister on

the demo team or you see um

people that are best

friends with athletes or

training buddies or

whatever it just doesn't

look good especially when

you're not part of a

training camp and you have

no information ever on

anything and you see that

sometimes training camps do

have some some additional

information like the

perception of always picking

athletes that are part of

training camp is feels like

you're on the outside of

knowing some stuff when you compete.

uh allison scuds yeah for

what it's worth there is

likely very difficult to

prove breach of nda but yes

like carolyn said it comes

down to athletes integrity

unfortunately which is why

the selection process is

super important um that's

my point raf likes the

suspension maybe two years

for a breach of nda yep I'd

like that I think that's fair so

Yeah.

Good conversations tonight, y'all.

I like it.

Yeah.

That's what we're here for.

We don't always agree,

but we at least talk about it.

Does knowing the workout a

few days ahead really make

that much of a difference?

Absolutely.

If, if you know the workouts,

you get someone else to

test that workout for you, film it,

send you a video.

You can watch one of the top

athlete that didn't make it

to the games or someone else test it,

get the stimulus.

This is how you want to break it up.

Anything at this level,

any information earlier can help.

And if you don't,

could you change the way

that you approach the workout?

Yes.

When these events are being released,

if you don't think that

camps and athletes are doing just that,

having their friends do the workouts,

have their friends doing

part of the workouts,

testing different ways of

doing the workouts, you're crazy.

The athlete doesn't even

have to do it themselves.

And those are for the ones

that even just... Like,

there's been five workouts released.

So...

Yeah, happens all the time.

Well, guys,

we are over our ninety minute

normal time and I got to go

to work in the morning.

So with that, it has been a blast.

Again,

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