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Did either of you watch 'Mare of Easttown'?
Ayisha:I did.
Lolade:I didn't.
Bankole:Did you know about it, Lolade?
Ayisha:No. Oh,
Bankole:so it's Kate Winslet's last HBO limited series.
Lolade:Oh, okay.
Bankole:Did you like it? Ayisha?
Ayisha:Yeah. I thought I thought it was fun. Well, not fun. I was quite dark.
Bankole:To be honest with you, that was not it's not it's not it's not a fun subject matter.
Ayisha:It's my type of fun. She was there like Mhmm. It was enjoyable. It was enjoyable. I thought Evan Peters did a really nice performance in that.
Ayisha:Mhmm. It's really
Bankole:good in that.
Ayisha:Yeah. Those are my only thoughts. I can't really remember too much of it. I watched it quite a while ago, but I thought she was quite good.
Bankole:Was 2022, I think.
Ayisha:Yeah. Yeah.
Bankole:Yeah. I liked it as well. I was just I just think about it obviously because it's her return to HBO. So I was like, oh.
Ayisha:But I feel like she's doing something entirely different in this.
Bankole:Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know. Judy Foster in True Detective is more Mary's Melvie's Town than than what Kate Winslet is doing here.
Bankole:Mhmm. Okay. Are you guys ready to start?
Lolade:Yeah.
Ayisha:Yeah. Let's do it.
Bankole:Hello and welcome back to the Popcorn for Dinner podcast and welcome to somewhere in middle Europe. Today, we are beginning our coverage of HBO's latest political satire, 'The Regime' from Will Tracy and starring the great Kate Winslet. And joining me today and hopefully all season to roam these halls of power, for the love of God, please don't breathe in their directions. It's Lolade and Ayisha. How are you guys doing?
Bankole:Welcome. Hi. Hey.
Ayisha:Thank you. That was nice and, Hi, guys. And, and and really, really rambunctious. Man. That
Lolade:was great.
Ayisha:The intro.
Bankole:Rambunctious. Oh, putting down the list. I won't I won't be giving that.
Ayisha:I feel like I made a stop
Bankole:sheet. No. I think it's a word.
Lolade:It's a word.
Bankole:Ayesha, you've obviously had a few appearances here and there the last few weeks. Mhmm. Your new additions to the podcast. And I guess it's your first TV coverage. So welcome.
Bankole:Hello. This is what this is what pays the bills. The TV coverage helps us do is this cinema. This is this is what pays the bills and then we can do go up and talk about poor things.
Ayisha:Fair enough.
Bankole:Loidie, it's your unofficial official first appearance on the podcast.
Ayisha:Official.
Bankole:We have we have 2 episodes in the popcorn for dinner bowl because no matter how bad it is, I always make sure it's it's put out because I'm just like, just put it out. But we have only 2 than the vault. One is because it's gonna be a 2 part, and the second one couldn't be recorded. So that's fine. The second one is the one you appeared on, Lola De.
Bankole:That was recorded. Everybody is very excited about it and it couldn't come out. Can you explain why it couldn't come out?
Lolade:We don't we don't we don't talk about that. Are we even allowed to say his name?
Bankole:Oh, yeah. I think now that well, at least everybody hopefully, everybody that listens to this news where we fall on the
Ayisha:Yeah.
Bankole:That divide. So I don't think it's really helpful.
Ayisha:I'm so intrigued right now.
Lolade:So it was the it was the creed episode. So that happened.
Ayisha:I see.
Lolade:We recorded the episode, and there was a lot of, like, I'd say, mutual thirsting. But, yeah, like, 2 hours after recording, like, news came out that he was wasn't, like, he was arrested.
Bankole:Quick. It was, like, we had 4 girls on the episode. I think, obviously, it was is the cinemas was Priscilla, Jess, Sikara, who's been on as well, and you.
Lolade:Yeah.
Bankole:And then, obviously, I let you guys record because I didn't want to be in the middle of all of that. And then I got the and then literally after the finished recording, obviously, the news outlets come up. And then I'm like, oh, Priscilla, have you seen this? And Priscilla is like, oh, banquet. We can't release the episode.
Ayisha:Yeah.
Bankole:She was like, you don't want to you don't even want to listen to what we said. No. I was like, oh, I'll buy I was like, okay. And literally same time Zikora messaged me, Jess messaged. They were just like, yeah, we can't release.
Bankole:I was like, oh,
Ayisha:it's No.
Bankole:That part. I was like, oh, that that would be very interested.
Lolade:Did you listen to it? No.
Bankole:I didn't listen to it.
Ayisha:Okay. Good.
Bankole:I I not even because of the. I mean, just because the way you guys described it first thing, I was like, I don't want that for myself. But if you do
Ayisha:Not because you're afraid of being in a room full of women, are you, Banky?
Bankole:Well, I am. I'm small. I'm tiny. I'm this I'm this small. I just I I can't handle it's too much.
Bankole:It's too much for me. I don't know how to do. Even right now, this
Ayisha:is
Bankole:like a lot. Stress. Luckily, we're divided by by
Lolade:a screen. Stressed. Are you
Bankole:feeling overwhelmed? I am feeling overwhelmed. You're feeling
Ayisha:overwhelmed at the moment. Yeah. I don't
Bankole:I don't really know how to do it. I don't know how to do it. No. Obviously, it's great to have both of you on to talk about this show before we go anywhere. Guys, Oscars are next week.
Lolade:Yes.
Bankole:Our prediction of the episode is coming out later this week. Speaking of the Oscars, if you're catching up on films ahead of the ceremony, you're watching hold of us American fiction. And that's where we before Mhmm. Is the cinema. I've been covering them over the past few weeks.
Bankole:Yeah. I used to join them for a couple of those episodes.
Ayisha:Mhmm.
Bankole:Obviously, also, we have, like, 4 hours, maybe 2 episodes each on Bob and Hymer from the summer so you can go check those out we definitely covered a lot of of our bobbinheimer so please check all of that out Ebookas said I spent too much time on admin but that's because we need to beg you guys please we need your help if the extras that you like please share them Please rate us on Spotify. The star is right there like under our name on the mobile apps. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts. These things, like, may seem negligible to you, but they really, really help us in the algorithm. That's how Aisha found us.
Bankole:Just randomly on Spotify.
Ayisha:That's how I found them. So
Bankole:yeah. Yes, please.
Ayisha:Now I'm here.
Bankole:And please subscribe to the newsletter which should be coming soon. The link will be in the description to this episode on whatever platform you're listening on. I hope that was short enough, Evuka. So we're gonna talk about the regime.
Ayisha:Yes.
Bankole:It views latest political satire.
Lolade:Mhmm. What
Bankole:I would do is I'll probably give a quick breakdown of the episode. Sorry. No. It will not be a quick breakdown. I'll give you a breakdown of the episode and then I'll get the thoughts of Aisha and Ladi.
Bankole:This is written by Will Tracy Mhmm. Who was a writer on Succession. He's one of the cowriters of the menu, the film starring Anya Taylor Joy, Nicholas Hoult and Refined. And he's directed by Steven Fries. I think he directs half of the season and and also produces the show.
Bankole:It's starring Kate Winslet, Matthias Sunot, and Andrea and Oscar nominee, Andrea Riseborough.
Ayisha:Of 2 Leslie fame.
Bankole:Of 2 Leslie fame. Yeah. Okay. This so we start by with following a barely standing soldier who is led through the presidential chancellorial. Is that a word?
Bankole:Chancellorial palace by we're just making words up on this episode apparently, chancellorial palace by Andrea Raspberries Palace manager, who is in the early lead to be my favorite character because I just that's the energy I love. I just love her energy. He's led to a room with the minister of finance and the chancellor's personal physician where we are giving some more information but not much. So at this point, I'm just gonna skip all of this and give this summary as I understand it. The chancellor has apparently inherited a late father's poor lungs.
Bankole:How much of this is true? It's still up in the air. No pun intended. Because of this, she's very paranoid about breathing in toxic air. So she gets Zubac, who is the soldier, to essentially be her air tester.
Bankole:She walks in and out of rooms. What do you guys think? Did I miss anything? That kind of
Lolade:No. That's it.
Bankole:That kind of tracks. Right? Okay. Yeah. This will prove important at the end of this episode.
Bankole:But on rewatch, I was like, oh, you can kind of see how shady the finance minister and the doctor are. Like they clearly don't think this is an issue but they are trying to let Zubac think there's an issue so that the chancellor thinks it's an issue that was very interesting. Yeah so Zubac meets King Twizzlet's chancellor where she where there is more than I mean there is more than moisture in the air between them and sexual tension. I'm talking about sexual tension. She talks about knowing him from her dreams, which is very sane and logical.
Bankole:And then the next day during their victory day dinner, Zuba actually, question for the class. Should we refer to him as Zuba or Pucha throughout the season?
Ayisha:Good question. I'm not sure. I like
Lolade:Herbert. Herbert? This person. Yeah. Oh,
Bankole:yeah. He he's not a Herbert.
Ayisha:He does not look
Lolade:or act like a Herbert.
Bankole:Okay. No. He doesn't. So are we going with Herbert then?
Ayisha:Yeah. We can go have
Bankole:a yeah. Okay.
Lolade:Just for gigs.
Bankole:Well, I'll you guys know, because Right now, I'm going with Kate Winslet until she feels like an Alina. Maybe I'll change her for now. She's very much just Kate Winslet. Mhmm. This is gonna be so weird because I just have I have to change all into Herbert.
Bankole:Herbert, after doing my exact and this is so it was so wild to say it's my exact morning exercise routine like exercise for exercise, chest slapping and all.
Ayisha:Bar for bar. Serious?
Bankole:Yeah. Bar for bar. What you do every morning? Exact I do I do all of that every morning. Can you not see the resort?
Ayisha:Okay. Tarzan.
Lolade:Are you okay?
Ayisha:Okay, Tarzan Okay. Prison break.
Bankole:No. So during the dinner, he's a bit overzealous with his job, which embarrasses Kate Winslet and gets him demoted. Speaking of slapping, Kate Winslet slaps him a few times in anger, which the streets are saying only increase the sexual tension between them.
Ayisha:Definitely.
Bankole:It's true. Which is weird because no one has watched this episode yet. So maybe I'm just projecting. A hawk of a man breaks into Kate Winslet's room. Mhmm.
Bankole:Herbert beats the shit out of him, but of course, Kate Winslet has breathed his air. So this sends her into a spiral. She goes into a self imposed quarantine. And then the finance minister and her doctor tried to exert their influence on her in her frail state. Herbert gives us some tough words, which seems to snap into focus.
Bankole:She basically sends the traitors in her camp to be killed and says fuck you to US money. In a speech to the to her people, she says this, quote, one of my government's top ministers, along with key members of my household written here, conspired with a foreign backed 5th column to assassinate me while I slept. For the past year, these individuals have weakened our economy, our government, and even my immune system aided by meddling foreign regimes. How much of that do you think is true? So importantly, she says that her ministers, her doctor, and a foreign but so, like, assuming that Texas company backed people to assassinate her while she slept.
Bankole:How much of that do you think is true?
Lolade:I don't think Or
Bankole:just propaganda?
Lolade:I feel the assassinate part is a propaganda.
Bankole:Mhmm.
Lolade:But, like, everything else, her talking about the, her doctor and the minister of finance trying to, like, weaken her or, like, get to her. I think that's true.
Ayisha:I agree. I think so too.
Bankole:That's why I think I agree as well. And I I just wrote that, actually, just like in the real world, it doesn't matter because, like, that's what she said. So now you're taken as the truth. Yeah. She then proceeds to read the entire United States of America fulfilled, and I had to write all of this down.
Bankole:Bear with me. I will not let you, you being our people, be sucked into the decadence and toxicity of American surrogates around the globe. For years, we have suffered so they can build the global order in their image. They provided material aid to corrupt regimes abroad. They committed an abated mass murder, and they waged their crony catalyst war in every corner of the planet.
Bankole:They have told the rest of us to play ball, sit up straight, do as we tell you, and pay the toll. It's time to say enough. We will no longer be a party to their legacy of brutality. We will no longer suffer for their greed. And then I stood up and clapped and saluted Oh.
Bankole:My my leader, my president, Kate Winogled. Okay. I like to talk with you, Leladi. What are your general thoughts on this first episode of the show?
Lolade:I really liked it. It's very different, like you said. I mean, I don't think I've ever really, like, particularly liked political satires, but this one this one was good. It it did it for me. I think my favorite part was her entrance into the celebration.
Lolade:I thought that was hilarious.
Bankole:Well, hot singing.
Lolade:Yeah. That was a whole head of state.
Bankole:Yeah. That's like
Lolade:making an ass
Bankole:that was legit l to the OG.
Ayisha:Yes. I was literally about to say that. I was like, this is so l to the OG. It couldn't be more.
Bankole:And that's my first suggestion of such a reference of the evening. There'll be so many more over the next 6 weeks.
Ayisha:I know. You're gonna be itching.
Bankole:I apologize just in my nature. I'm sorry to talk to you about you.
Lolade:I loved that. And her husband, Nikki, just playing the piano with her. I thought that was funny. And I think my other favorite part was her reading America fulfilled. I was like because I have notes, and I was like, she's not wrong.
Lolade:Like, that is America. That is what they do. So far, I think it's really good. I really like the show. I'm excited to see what direction it goes in, what the other episodes have coming, what is going to happen to Herbert?
Lolade:Because like, clearly, he has he's not demoted anymore as of the end of the episode. Like If
Bankole:anything is permitted.
Lolade:Exactly. I wanna see where that goes. I'm hoping to get a little more I hope they get into the backstory of her husband and, like, their relationship. Like, do you guys remember when he was talking about how they met and how they got married?
Bankole:That's the story.
Lolade:I Yeah. That was insane.
Ayisha:And him admitting it openly at the dinner table, for me, it was like, wow.
Lolade:So wow. Telling everybody for free. I was in shock. Like, what? Why would you say
Bankole:that? Saying that I mean, actually, Loidie, why don't you, like, refresh our list in case they forgot to wipe like, what he says
Lolade:through them. Okay. So he's talks about how, like, when they met, like, he was actually married, and he had kids. Like, he had a whole family. And she said for the purpose of her campaign, he should just propose, and they should get married.
Lolade:And he did, and he left his family and just moved.
Bankole:Oh, I mean, there's a there's a step there. So they were met in France. They have a little affair he goes back home and she still has control over him she's like proposed like it's almost so wild that I I almost don't even want to see the backstory. I just wanna leave it like that because, like, it's just I
Ayisha:think so. I think so too. It's just I think so too.
Bankole:The right amount of, like Yeah. So you did that, It's just like, I don't want to see it happen. I'm just fine knowing that that's the kind of person you are. Aisha. Oh, actually, Lola, is that the end of your thoughts?
Bankole:Is that
Lolade:Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Bankole:We can we can go into my new site in a bit. Yeah. Aisha, what you're
Ayisha:account policy? Swear. Right?
Bankole:Yeah. To guess. You're you're
Ayisha:Okay. 2 things came to my mind while watching this. First is while she was while she was, like, doing her speech, all I could hear in my in my head was, first off, fuck your bitch and the click you claim. It was like the first thing I also heard, fuck bitches, get money. That's all I was singing.
Bankole:Why How bad is that? The 2 lyrics that came to your mind?
Ayisha:Well, I to be honest, I have been listening to hit them up recently. I'm sorry. It's just been happening. It's been I don't know what it says about the state of my life at the moment, but I've been listening to it. But I just remember after finishing watching it, I just thought this is basically what this woman is saying highly unrelated, but fair enough, about the American people.
Ayisha:I thought it was really good. I thought it was really fun. I found at the start, I was wondering, like, what was going on?
Bankole:Mhmm.
Ayisha:Which I feel like I felt this way when I watched the great as well for the first time. Mhmm. Where I was like,
Bankole:being That's so funny that you mentioned the great, but continue. Sorry.
Ayisha:Yeah. Like being kind of someone that I love. I love political shows. Like, Bragi can tell you from my tweets. Like, I watched so I watched so many.
Ayisha:Like, I love them so much, and I'm a big fan of the, like, I knew she Armstrong, Tracy, all of them. They were I cannot
Bankole:wait to reference Veep as as well. This you're doing this wrong.
Ayisha:Literally, I've been rewatching Veep, which is quite funny because I watched that as a cover show. No. No.
Bankole:No. No. Please go watch Veep. I know you said you don't like points but
Ayisha:You would like Veep.
Bankole:Go watch Veep. Just You like just trust us. Give yourself 5 episodes.
Ayisha:You like Veep. Alright. And I also think
Bankole:it's really comforting watching Veep because
Ayisha:it's kind of like, it's a woman who is bad at their jobs for like 15 minutes a day or something. It's actually like the most comforting thing to watch on TV. When you think about it, most shows about people being bad at their jobs. If you just think about it, most of Armstrong shows are like that or I know she shows. I like that.
Ayisha:But I don't know Sorry.
Bankole:Just to go on a quick Veep tangent. Obviously, when Veep was airing, so was Silicon Valley and most times it would air. It'd be like Game of Thrones and Victor Silicon Valley.
Ayisha:Mhmm. Mhmm.
Bankole:And it was a bit insane just to watch these shows back to back where just everyone was bad. Like everyone's but I was like, how did you make it to this level of notes in your occupation where you're just so bad at your job? But you know so bad to bad.
Ayisha:Exactly. Oh,
Bankole:we used to be a country. We used to make things in
Ayisha:this country. We used to be
Bankole:Silicon Valley.
Ayisha:Something. We used to be something huge.
Bankole:Well, please continue.
Ayisha:Yeah. No. I thought it was really good. I think the the I was really wondering where I was going. And I think towards, like, maybe the middle, I started to be like, okay.
Ayisha:I'm starting to, like, get the feel of this show. It's kind of nice. Super shocked to see Angela Roseborough there. Although I do feel like I mean, going to mention what we're gonna talk about the Oscars, but I do feel like she came with, like, something to prove. So, like, you know, I was like, great.
Ayisha:I was
Bankole:thinking about this. I don't know I don't know. Lolly, you might not know this, but, like, there was a whole thing. It was last year where basically so how she was in at least very small movie and then the director of the the director of the movie oh, I can't remember if it was her. Was the actor a man or woman?
Bankole:Was it man?
Lolade:I think so.
Bankole:I think his wife was connected. So, basically, they started getting, like, oh, they're famous friends to be like, oh, talk about this movie. Post screenings for this movie. Mhmm. Talk about her performance.
Bankole:And then it led to her getting an Oscar nomination. Everybody was like, what? Like, where is this from? It was just so random.
Ayisha:Yeah. Who is she?
Bankole:Yeah. Like like, what I this is like this is a real I thought this is a really small movie. Movie that, like, appears on Netflix in 5 years time. I remember just like so everybody's like people, like, I mean, big people were posting about it and then it got so that's kind of, like, the thing. That's why I joked about having Oscar nominee.
Bankole:But she's a good actress. She's a good actress.
Ayisha:She was so good in this. Yeah. She was so good in this. Yeah. I just thought I thought it was overall, really good.
Ayisha:And I think I you know, when she said we can, you know, weaken my economy and even my immune system, I feel like we can talking about someone weakening your immune system is something I need to say more. Like, if someone's stressing me out, I should be like, I feel like you're weakening my immune system at the moment.
Bankole:My immune system. Toxic.
Ayisha:Your toxic energy
Bankole:just like
Ayisha:an air.
Bankole:Give me a second. Yeah.
Ayisha:Exactly. I think that we need to we need to that into our everyday vocabulary. But apart from that, I thought it was quite good. I have some, like, really small particular things, but as we go on, I'm sure we can speak about that.
Bankole:Okay. Yeah. We can get through all of that. So, obviously, my first big shock because I knew it's a satire. They are very upfront in that kind of, like, in promoting as a satire.
Bankole:It's very clear to say from the producer of succession or whatever. Biden actually be as quirky Mhmm. As it is. And then that that's that's from the jump. Like, the music.
Bankole:I'm like, oh, that's I was like, That's that's quirky music. And then you realize that it's, like, the composer is Alexander Desplat who, like, Fernando doesn't know that name for context. He's worked with Wes Anderson 6 times. Mhmm. So, like, that's the vibe.
Bankole:It's like, obviously, it's not all that more serious things, but, like, he's a Wes Anderson guy. So that, oh, it's a it's that kind of show. It's not just like a it's not a street satire. It's also a bit kind of weird. And Yeah.
Bankole:I think I like the show. Actually, no. I know I like the show. I don't think I loved it yet, but that's fine because it's like takes me a couple of, like, episodes to get on fully on board with shows that are like this.
Ayisha:That's true.
Bankole:And I was thinking about it, and I was like, oh, I think I was thinking about it after rewatching it. I was like, oh, I think the, like, the toxic, whatever thing was a bit, like, too off kilter for me to be, like, a long running plot. Mhmm. Like, if that was across all 6 episodes, I was like, okay. This is a bit.
Bankole:But then if it's an it seems like it's a one off episode thing and she's like over it. It and this is how it seemed. And I'm like, okay. Then that's fine. I can get on board with her.
Bankole:But it was a thing. It would have been just a bit too weird, which speaking of funny, I mentioned The Great because I remember the time when this is after the whole, the guys in her room and everything. They are carrying her to the meeting with the finance minister in this kind of, like, cube or not cube, like, pod or whatever.
Ayisha:Impressive.
Bankole:And I was thinking very much of... and I was like this seems very much like a Yorgos Lanthimos thing, which obviously the reason I think about, like, obviously, Tony McNamara who's worked with him, he wrote and created the great. I was just like, oh, this feels I don't know if this can be sustained because it's like the reason it's such a thin line to sustain across 6 episodes if you want to be that weird. And I was like, oh, I don't I don't well, then the final like, that final speech is a lot more grounded and not more like exactly what I want in terms of like pointscar satire like straight to the point. Like, still funny. Still a bit weird but not not weird for 15 minutes.
Bankole:Like, so so I'm excited. I'm very I'm very on board. I really like this episode. I wasn't I wasn't like, this is the best show of the year yet, but I think I'll be I think I think yeah. I think I think we're on a good we're on a good path.
Bankole:Yeah. Who wants to start with their more specific points? Actually, what do you guys think? Something I caught on my rewatch.
Ayisha:Oh, tell us.
Bankole:So the man that attacks her in her bedroom, we've seen him a couple of times in the episode.
Lolade:Yeah.
Bankole:I didn't realize that until I rewatched it. But then, Andrea Riseborough's character, like, shouts at him and tells him, go find, like, your your crew or whatever. But you can see that he's obviously, like, sticking out the the palace or trying to figure it out. He's just I was like, oh, I was like, oh, that's very funny we just you don't notice that until, like, I guess you rewatch it or if you have incredible memory.
Ayisha:Yeah. I missed that.
Bankole:Yeah. Okay. So I guess like you said, you have some specific points. Do you want to share your thing right now?
Ayisha:I do. Okay. So I don't know if this is me just being very noticing something that isn't there. But I felt like she was talking with, like, one side of her mouth.
Lolade:The entire Yes.
Ayisha:The entire show.
Bankole:Yeah. Towards
Ayisha:the end of the show, towards sorry. Towards the end of the episode, she fixes it. She fixes it, and she starts to speak Yeah. Normally.
Bankole:That was gonna be when I was gonna ask, what do we think about her accent?
Ayisha:Yeah. There's the accent too, which is the first thing I wrote down. I was like, what is this? Queen's English with
Bankole:a mouthpiece? I think they're I think they're linked. I think they're speaking from the one side of the mouth and accent in a link. Yeah. I think it's kind of it's it's not it's not lips lips.
Bankole:I had just had lips say lips. It's not bad, but it's like I think because she's speaking from that's out of my mouth, the she sounds like that. That makes sense? So I yeah. What do we think about it?
Bankole:Okay. I guess that's the that's the question.
Ayisha:I don't know. Yeah. What do you guys think?
Lolade:Why? My question is why? Like, what? What? She's
Bankole:an actor, and she wants to make acting choices. Come on.
Lolade:Like, I saw it. And I was like, what is this act? Like, what is it adding? Is it meant to be adding something to her character? Like like he said, Aisha, like, she fixes it towards the end.
Lolade:So what was the
Ayisha:So what I thought when I watched it was Mhmm. The two things are separate for me in terms of her accent. I thought, okay, that's weird. You're doing something here that doesn't make any sense to me.
Bankole:Mhmm.
Ayisha:Fine. But then I thought the lip quiver was more of a thing of, like, she was really weak from the start, and she has a thing. And I thought it maybe was something to do with her intake, breath intake, or something. Maybe Okay. That's a bit too specific.
Ayisha:But I thought it was more of like a metaphorical thing of her becoming stronger and steady within herself. So she's kind of quivering throughout. And then at at the end when she makes that, you know, public kind of address, she is, you know, ready. She's not quivering anymore. So it's the thing of she's now gained strength and she's now standing on her own 2 feet.
Ayisha:So I thought that was kind of maybe the subtle metaphorical meaning of that, maybe. I'm not sure.
Bankole:So okay. So are you talking about the quavering in particular? Because I felt like from quivering
Ayisha:your point. From the side of her mouth. Like, she was her mouth was a bit crooked when she spoke
Bankole:Yeah.
Ayisha:The entire time. Like, it was like her lips were not meeting.
Bankole:No. I understand what you're saying. I I I just thought that was like I thought that was the way to get the voice like that.
Ayisha:Perhaps maybe.
Bankole:Because my thinking was like, okay. Because I I realized that at some point it was a lot more heightened Mhmm. Which is like like the middle part of the episode. And I thought, okay. It was when the show gets a lot more I don't use the word realistic but a lot more like, I don't know.
Bankole:Actually, what's a better word than realistic? Normal or whatever?
Ayisha:Yeah. I see what you mean. Less question.
Bankole:Came a yeah. She became a lot less car not caricature ish, if I may. But your your thing makes sense as well if it was a mental tick. Like, it was something that she was never really upset.
Ayisha:Yeah.
Bankole:It's definitely a choice. But I I mean, I guess we can only we would see as we go on, like, in the second episode, if she's goes back to normal, then we just know that's how she talks.
Lolade:Yeah.
Bankole:And maybe when she's a little more straight to camera and, like, serious, then it doesn't come out as much or when she's like, I don't think I noticed it when she was slapping him. It was more like just in normal conversations. It seemed like it was more Yeah. Present.
Ayisha:I don't know. It was distracting. It was really But
Bankole:I don't care about the accent. I it was like, because she doesn't speak with that with her normal accent. I don't care about the accent. It was just it was the lip thing that seemed weird. I was like, Okay.
Bankole:Yeah. So yeah.
Ayisha:But even her outfit, even her outfit choices, you know, she gains, you know, they change over time. Like she she's they fit better as
Lolade:time goes on.
Ayisha:And something I picked up from Succession watching is that usually use, you know, wardrobe changes and stuff to indicate changes in the character's perception of themselves and etcetera. And you can see she like steps into herself towards the end, just part of that journey.
Bankole:Mhmm. As well. You you say that, and I'm the worst person, at least definitely on this podcast right right now, probably even just in the whole world to talk about fashion. But, like, I felt like the dress you wore at the end was the worst she had won us all episode.
Ayisha:No. But the, like,
Bankole:sleeves that again, worst person to talk about fashion. I I I I started with a
Ayisha:You're showing it right now because
Bankole:No. Not just right. That's what I was
Ayisha:thinking about.
Bankole:It's about owning our truth. I like the dress she wore. Was it the green one?
Ayisha:The green one. Say. You're gonna say the green one.
Bankole:Well, I no. Flexx, she wore 2 green ones. What was she wearing For the briefing? Speech.
Ayisha:The green one with the with the, core is it 3 no. No. 3 quarter sleeve with the kinda like half sleeve here.
Bankole:Yeah. What did she wear for this speech?
Lolade:What speech? The one at the end?
Bankole:The one at the end.
Lolade:Yeah. Yeah. It was like a
Ayisha:She wore the one you didn't like.
Lolade:Yeah. The one you didn't like.
Ayisha:It was gray. It was gray.
Lolade:It was green with, like, white sleeves.
Bankole:Was it gray? Yeah.
Ayisha:Or white sleeves.
Bankole:It's like my screen showed me green. And you guys liked that one?
Ayisha:Yeah. I like that one. That one was fantastic.
Bankole:What what what she wore for the gala? Fantastic. Wow.
Ayisha:Yeah. That was that was that was okay. It was okay.
Bankole:But then the briefing was your worst.
Lolade:No. I don't know. Like, it was okay. It wasn't great. Yeah.
Ayisha:It wasn't great.
Bankole:I don't understand. It's
Ayisha:it's about the fitting, though. It's not really about the clothing choices.
Bankole:I'm talking about okay. Well, I'm talking about the dresses themselves.
Ayisha:Okay. Fair. But
Bankole:but as about fitting
Ayisha:how they fit her. Okay. I see. I see what you mean in
Bankole:that sense. So he has a problem. To me, everything fits Caitlyn's bed perfectly.
Lolade:Mhmm. Yeah.
Ayisha:So Are you trying to say something? Yeah. Kind
Lolade:of. Well You don't have to get into it. We No one is listening.
Bankole:There are, like, 5 listeners on this podcast. I can say whatever I want to say about King's Mindsley. I I I don't mind. Shame. Just talking about shame.
Ayisha:Body t. Okay. Yeah.
Bankole:Like, I have no problem talking about why I feel like I'm okay to insulate. Yeah.
Ayisha:Okay. Just package.
Bankole:I mean, well, I guess we'll talk about performances. I really, really like Matthias Kuna's performance in this episode who who plays Herbert. Mhmm. I think from the first moment to like
Ayisha:Butcher.
Bankole:Butcher. You're you're feeling, like, his pain, his agony. Like, I I don't know. It's weird. I was like, I mean, we should mention that okay.
Bankole:I guess before this show has, started, there's been this kind of massacre at a cobalt mine, in which some soldiers have probably killed, I think, a dozen miners
Ayisha:Yeah.
Bankole:Probably injured a lot more. We don't necessarily know what prompted them, whether they were just being no more police, hashtag ACAB, or Mhmm. They were provoked. We don't know. But yeah.
Bankole:So that's kind of why he's kind of like everybody's looking at him a bit funny. But no. His performance, I was just like I don't know. I was I felt for him from the first moment. I felt for him whenever he was like his reaction when everybody described him as the butcher.
Bankole:Now you could see on his face that he felt that shame. And I I just I don't know. I really enjoyed. And obviously, his speech at the end when he kind of like snaps into focus. I I I thought his performance was really, really good this this episode.
Bankole:Any thoughts from you guys?
Lolade:Yeah. I really liked his performance, like you said. Like you said, I did feel so bad for him, especially the first scene where they're, like, bringing him in to meet her.
Bankole:And they've drawed them. Yeah.
Lolade:I was just like, man. And the was it minister of finance or whatever? She was so rude and so mean
Bankole:to him. So awful to him.
Lolade:Oh, yeah. I did feel bad for him. But, yeah, good performance. I'm excited to see, what role he plays in her government.
Bankole:Yeah. A lit a little I guess, I guess I can tease this because it's like the official hatred description talks about his influence over her.
Ayisha:Yeah. That's what I was gonna say.
Bankole:You're gonna be like, okay. I'm just going to
Ayisha:say that.
Bankole:Should we put our bets down now? Like, what types of do do they sleep together?
Lolade:2.
Bankole:Are we
Ayisha:Okay. Perfect.
Bankole:Oh, next steps.
Lolade:This. There's just so much.
Ayisha:No. I don't think so. I think they're gonna tease us a bit. I think episode 3.
Bankole:Okay. I think 3 or, like, very early 3.
Lolade:Yeah. I'm thinking late to 2.
Ayisha:Okay.
Bankole:Yeah. Late to early 3, I think. Mhmm. Not not later than that.
Ayisha:In a way, I don't want them to sleep together, and that's not me being approved. I just don't want them to sleep together. I think it's more interesting if they don't. I don't know.
Bankole:Probably, but I'm just I mean,
Ayisha:maybe I don't know.
Bankole:But we agree that the sexual tension is there. It does understand.
Ayisha:It's so it's so there. It's it's
Bankole:really there.
Ayisha:It's, yeah, unfathomable. It's really there.
Bankole:Yeah. It's very, very interesting to see what I mean, like, Nikki is all obviously already stressed. Nikki, by the way, I think he took her last name.
Lolade:I think he
Ayisha:that would make sense,
Bankole:did he? I I think she calls him and she says Nikki, and then she mentions her last name, which might just put Nikki in the I don't know if it's hall of fame or hall of shame. He's just gonna be like, he's like, he left his family. He's not he's not seen them since. It's just a hilarious statement to make.
Bankole:Like, he's just like, yeah. My my child is just there somewhere. Almost 10 years, I've not seen them. Oh, also, which you mentioned that she has been chancellor for, I think, 7 years. She overthrew the last chancellor.
Lolade:Yeah.
Bankole:Her father formed the party that she's the leader of now.
Ayisha:Yes. So His father.
Bankole:Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. Nikki, hell of a man. But he's obviously a bit worried, but obviously he he wants me to know about his poetry, NGO.
Bankole:That's that's important
Ayisha:to know about. People to know about that.
Bankole:Do you know any of the names of people coming up in this show, Leladi? I don't want to there's one I don't want to spoil if you don't know.
Lolade:Hugh Grant.
Bankole:Okay. Yeah. Hugh Grant. Yeah. Yeah.
Ayisha:He'll fit so perfectly, though. He's in his whimsical era.
Lolade:Yeah. He is. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Bankole:Did you
Ayisha:just see Wong?
Bankole:Easy. Because I'm just doing that
Ayisha:Just Wonger. Just a Wonka. He's he's having fun. Yeah.
Bankole:Yeah. He did he did Dondun. I was like, okay. I'm just gonna go weirdo from here. Yeah.
Bankole:Walker, Dungeons and Dragons.
Ayisha:Performance.
Bankole:Is it bad performance? It was a bad thing all in all.
Ayisha:That was a bad performance. The on
Bankole:duty. The the finale is not
Ayisha:That's my hot take.
Bankole:I don't know if it's like it wasn't bad performance until the finale. Like, I Yeah. Until he has to become a villain. I was like, oh, okay. I don't
Ayisha:Yeah. Perhaps. I think that was when I I clocked it the most. I was like, oh,
Bankole:this is okay.
Ayisha:But, yeah,
Bankole:I think that's mostly the story. I think the story crumbles impressively. And that, like, he that's the end with him on the bridge with his son.
Ayisha:It does. It does.
Bankole:Oof. That was. Yeah.
Ayisha:But this is another thing I was talking about recently, which is a small side note about Nicole Kidman acting the same role over and over again. Because she's now doing this new show called Expats, which actually Yeah. By Lulu Wang show who did the farewell. Mhmm. It's actually grown on me and I think it's a, it's a one to watch, but that's a side note on that.
Bankole:No. I mean, we can actually touch on the experts, Chris. Because I was thinking about I was talking about this with somebody and because I haven't started the Experts, obviously, and I I'll probably watch it at some point.
Ayisha:I think you should do like it, Banky.
Bankole:I don't know if there's a this might be me, reading 20 but I don't know if there's, like, a Nicole Kidman tiredness from the public.
Ayisha:Mhmm. There is.
Bankole:Like, if you compare how big Big Little Lies was in 20 was that 2016, 2017?
Lolade:Mhmm. 2
Ayisha:It's coming back.
Lolade:Yeah. And they
Bankole:have the undoing wait. So what did you say?
Lolade:It's coming back.
Ayisha:It's coming back.
Bankole:For season 3?
Lolade:Yeah. Yeah.
Bankole:Wait. What?
Ayisha:I think they started filming or something.
Lolade:They announced it a while ago.
Ayisha:They announced it. Yeah.
Bankole:At first of all, it's so weird for things that I need to miss for me to miss the label. What what I'm surprised.
Ayisha:Whatever. Are you losing your touch?
Bankole:Maybe. Maybe. There's too many shows. There are too many shows. But like that's season 3 of Big Little Lies.
Bankole:Okay. I mean, I always like seeing movie stars together, but okay. Wait a minute. My point is so going from that to, like, the undoing and then, like, was it 9 perfect strangers that I Yes.
Ayisha:You know what talked
Bankole:about. Strangers. And then now you're you're on the expansion on Amazon Prime, but nobody's talking about so I obviously, I think it coincides always talking
Ayisha:about it.
Bankole:Society having less of a general consensus of what to watch as opposed to when big detail and everybody's, like, talking about big detail.
Ayisha:But she acts the same role. That's the thing. She acts the same role. It's it's always this, like, you know, a woman kind of slightly on the edge of madness going through something. Yeah.
Ayisha:You know, that's really and and and and I and I think she does it well. And I think they need her because she brings numbers once you see Nicole Kidman attached
Bankole:to it. She gets it made. Yeah.
Ayisha:It's a good thing. But I feel like now the ex parts, the the performances are starting to balance. But I think at the start, it was just like Nicole Kidman was like sucking the air
Bankole:Fair enough.
Ayisha:Out of their star power. She was just like taking the and it wasn't because she was doing a fantastic performance, which she was doing an okay one. It was just that she's Nicole Kidman. So you're gonna look at her on a screen. Yeah.
Ayisha:And next to other less famous actors.
Bankole:She's not beside Ruth Witherspoon or or Zoe Kravitz.
Ayisha:Exactly. Exactly. But they're starting to it's starting to come about. And I think the last episode I watched it recently is an hour 40 minutes future length time.
Bankole:But Of a of a middle of the season episode or is it phenomenal?
Ayisha:No. It's a penultimate penultimate penultimate.
Bankole:Speaking of Nicole Kidman, I know she has a new a new David e Kelly show coming to I think it's Harry.
Ayisha:I love David e Kelly as well.
Bankole:I don't know if it's Dakota or Elle Fanning. I apologize. I think it might be Dakota.
Ayisha:So I think it's Dakota.
Bankole:They have a show coming to Apple TV plus later this year. I think it's Dakota. Are you sure
Ayisha:it's Dakota not Elle? Because No. Is this the one about is this the one about the one that goes to OnlyFans?
Bankole:Yeah. Yeah. That one.
Ayisha:I think it might be l.
Bankole:Oh, l. Fair. And then I think she has a she has a show with Dakota then on Netflix. The yeah. I just might just be working with with Defining Family.
Ayisha:Okay. Back to the regime.
Bankole:What are you guys, like, excited about? What do you want to see from this show? Now that we've kind of got, like, the lay of the land and I think she's now in charge. She wants to be a bit more serious. As you know, it'll be more bumbling, but she seems to be I mean, she's been in charge for 7 years.
Bankole:I think she's definitely better than at least Selena Maya. Seems to at least know how it's about it's about her.
Ayisha:Oh, Selena.
Bankole:So what do you guys what do you guys wanna see from this show going forward, next 5 episodes?
Lolade:I wanna see how the, American Cobalt Mining deal plays out. If it's going to play out done. You think it's done?
Bankole:I think that might be done. Yeah. Yeah. As you mentioned, I decided to show this season covers a year in the administration. Yeah.
Ayisha:Okay. That's nice.
Bankole:I think I think that cohort in my I think past teachers, like, has nuked that. Yeah.
Ayisha:Okay. Okay. So do you think there'll be a jump at the being beginning of the next episode?
Bankole:Maybe maybe like a couple of months. We've already done 2 weeks. I don't think I don't know if it'd be exactly 3, 6, 5 days, but, like, maybe like a month or
Lolade:so. Okay.
Bankole:We'll see.
Ayisha:Yeah. That's nice.
Bankole:I actually have no idea how
Ayisha:I think when they do that, it works really well for political satire shows to kind of span their side.
Bankole:Because you can also show, like, maybe she's had some growth and then she has an environmental setback at end of episode 2 or whatever.
Ayisha:Yes. Well,
Bankole:I I don't think next episode starts the day after. I think next episode starts with him made up more in power in the palace, for example. Mhmm. I agree. We see how I think we get an idea of what her new team is when she obviously removed the physician and and the finance minister.
Bankole:We go over, like, her new circle. I love the fact that she just takes Andrea Rasborough's son as hers. My wife was like, go play with mother. I was
Ayisha:like, what what
Bankole:do what do you mean?
Lolade:Yes. I was like,
Ayisha:is it is it not her son?
Bankole:I was like, is it or do you just refer to I was like, what's going on? I'm here. So
Ayisha:It's funny that you mentioned, yoga's, or yoga, Bangor. Because I as you're speaking, so I'm thinking of the favorite quite a lot now.
Bankole:Yeah. That was the one that I'm not wearing.
Ayisha:The show?
Bankole:Yeah. Yeah. But, again, it's like it's not difficult to understand why. It's like a a satire particular. Yeah.
Bankole:Weird satire based in the palace. It's not it's kind of a straightforward Mhmm. Light. But, yeah, I don't know. I'm excite I'm I'm really excited for the show.
Bankole:I think, obviously, we should mention that we're not watching ahead. So I'll probably go straight into worship till 2, like, right now. Yeah. And I think there's something here, hopefully. But, again, the problem I'm so scared because it's such a such a thin line to where it just becomes nonsensical and too over the top.
Bankole:But I don't know. For now, I have to trust everyone involved. Trust h p o. Yeah. Sorry, Nalai.
Bankole:What what are you expecting from the Cobalt thing? What anything else you're looking forward to this PG Grant appearing?
Lolade:Yeah. Yeah. Him appearing. Only words are hearing more speeches from her because I like the way she ends them. I've blessed you all and I've blessed our love.
Lolade:Like
Ayisha:Lovely. Right? She just wants everybody to be happy.
Lolade:That's beautiful. Yeah.
Bankole:I mean I mean it's funny because if you compare that to, like, god bless you and god bless the essence of America, it's a bit like, ugh.
Ayisha:It is.
Bankole:Where it's like, calm down. Calm down. Just god bless you and god bless our love. That's fine. That was
Ayisha:like that was very
Bankole:kumbaya.
Ayisha:But I thought the energy that gave us the same energy that she was giving in her performance, her song where she says never leave me. I'll be so sad if you leave me. Yeah. And it's it's like it's it's funny and it's like, oh, she loves them and she just wants to be loved, but it's also very dark because she's like, hopefully, I'll rule you forever.
Lolade:Yeah. You know?
Bankole:Yeah. So Funny. The last thing about those, like, 7 years. What what like, is there a term? Is this is she like a ruler on someone deposes me kind of situation?
Ayisha:I think so.
Bankole:It was an election, I guess. So it's like somebody else is it like does she have to just I don't know how chancellors work in Europe. Has she keep on, like, contest elections until she loses?
Ayisha:Perhaps.
Bankole:How long has Merkel been?
Lolade:I was just about to say, because I think Merkle's been there for a while.
Bankole:2005 to 2021. Wow. That's a lot of years. Yep.
Ayisha:Yeah. Mhmm.
Bankole:16 years. My god. Oh. Oh, I didn't know she had retired as a politician. 16 years.
Bankole:Wow. Also, Hugh Grant is the leader of the opposition. So that should there should be some fun fun sparring there.
Ayisha:Oh, that's exciting. I don't
Bankole:think they've ever worked together that I can I can remember? Is there, like, a big thing I'm not remembering?
Ayisha:I don't think so either. I can't really remember anything they've done together. No. Yeah.
Bankole:But, yeah, I I assume the future episodes will be a lot more jam packed as things start to happen. This is just really again, this is the first episode table set and all of that. Well, it sounds like we're all pleasantly on board. Apart from Kate's accent, maybe there's nothing else really that's turning us off. So I'm excited for that.
Bankole:Yeah.
Ayisha:I do think what you were saying about the toeing the line of whimsical.
Bankole:Mhmm.
Ayisha:Although I disagree with you a bit. I think they they can't maintain this like, I felt like I felt comfortable towards the end when it was clear what sort of feel they were going for.
Bankole:Mhmm.
Ayisha:At the start when it was like they were just, like, swinging from being whimsical
Bankole:Mhmm.
Ayisha:And in a way, I actually want them to go further.
Bankole:Like, I'm just whimsical.
Ayisha:More whimsical. Because I just I don't know. It's just I liked it when they were doing that, but I think it it you need to be whimsical with a plot still. You know? Yeah.
Bankole:You as well
Ayisha:can't be being whimsical. Mhmm. You know?
Bankole:Yeah. I agree. I don't mind whimsy at all. I love whimsy, but I need it tether to, like, reality.
Ayisha:Exactly.
Bankole:Yeah. Like, again, second of the night. Succession could have the most random thing, Roman blowing up, rockets or I'm trying to think of something something along something with Tom and Greg or whatever. Right? But, like, there's still a tether to reality.
Bankole:And I I I all I want. I think when I think just try to make make sense now of this life. When the plot just seemed that she was afraid of air, that seemed weird. But then if it's she's afraid of air, but it's because her advisers are manipulating her. Mhmm.
Bankole:That's a bit. I I'm I'm on board for that. That makes more sense. Yes. I like that.
Bankole:And then she can overcome that. And so, yeah, I don't mind whimsy. I just need it tethered to reality. And I think Mhmm. I think you quickly it's very rare that you have it, like, on the go.
Bankole:Like yeah. Even, like, famous situation, I liked the first episode. I didn't like the second episode. And And I had to go back and reword. And so, like, yeah.
Bankole:That was me. It takes me a second to, like, fully get on board with somebody's tone.
Ayisha:Yeah. So All those shows that you mentioned, people don't necessarily like them from the first episode.
Bankole:You know? The jump.
Ayisha:The Silicon Valley.
Bankole:To give Veep. You know?
Ayisha:Veep a chance?
Bankole:Give Veep 5 give Veep 5 episodes because, like
Lolade:I was gonna tell you guys that I tried.
Ayisha:Oh, you did?
Bankole:How far did you how far how far too did you go?
Lolade:I watched the first episode, and I was like, I don't know.
Bankole:Yeah. Like I said, just give it a private pursuit.
Lolade:Yeah. I I love to binge shows, but, like, I need you to, like, captivate me from the start. If not, I'm just gonna be like
Ayisha:I see.
Lolade:I don't know.
Ayisha:I think
Bankole:it might be difficult for were you on succession from the beginning? Like, from episode 1?
Lolade:Yeah. No. I started season 2, I think. I started from
Bankole:season 2. When you were binging it, were you, like, fully on board?
Ayisha:You started from season 2.
Bankole:No. I started when
Lolade:season 2. Yeah. Like, before soon June. Okay. Okay.
Lolade:But was I on to succession from the first episode? I think I was. Yeah.
Bankole:Fair enough. I wasn't, so that's not my last.
Ayisha:Maybe it's a feel thing for you because yeah. Because I think for me, I I didn't get Veep the first time I watched it. It was the 2nd time I watched it that I was, like, really keen on it.
Lolade:Mhmm.
Ayisha:And I dropped off. But, yeah.
Bankole:I think because, yeah, I think VIP is is disorienting. There's obviously handheld, snap zooms, and you might not like Yeah. It might be it might it might be a lot to get. It was for me. Like, I was like, okay.
Bankole:I'm just gonna go because I I've heard it's good. And then after a while, once you settle it, I was like, okay. Obviously, this is this is phenomenal. I don't know and also it's old vip season 1 is what 2014 maybe 10 years and you can't
Ayisha:see It's old. It's old.
Bankole:You can see that it's old. So that's not that's not the same thing. So
Ayisha:Another show that's a step further from Veep, which is one of my I've been wanting to watch this show for ages, in the thick of it or the thick of it.
Bankole:The thick of it.
Ayisha:Which is kind of the one of their first kind of shows that they did. Where that one is, like, is, like, bad shit, but also really, really good. Like, it's kinda bad shit crazy, but also really good.
Bankole:That's one thing I'm like, I I just need to I I don't know why I have not watched the thick of it yet. Like, because you know how much I love
Ayisha:You should watch it.
Bankole:I love Vianucci. I'm just like also speaking of Vianucci, I was getting a lot of, like, death of Stalin vibes from this episode as well. I don't know if you guys have seen death of Stalin.
Ayisha:I haven't seen death of
Bankole:Stalin, actually. Movie. For context, so everyone knows Jesse Armstrong because he wrote succession.
Ayisha:Mhmm.
Bankole:He basically lent his trade working with. Obviously, did the picture here, but he worked on the thick of it as well. With an episode
Ayisha:of Pete. Mhmm.
Bankole:So, like, it's kind of like, Iannucci has the godfather, then you have, like, Jesse Armstrong. Oh, his
Ayisha:little his little sons.
Bankole:Yeah. The the guys that wrote, Four Lions, the Riz Ahmed movie from, like, way back when, Chris Morin, all this kind of British satirists and black comedians. And then obviously now under Armstrong, we got people like Will Tracy who did the menu and doing this. So, like, yeah, I'm just kind of like the the godfather in that sense.
Ayisha:I think they didn't they all go to Oxford together or something?
Bankole:Probably. I don't know.
Ayisha:That's what I think I heard.
Bankole:That that tracks. That makes sense.
Ayisha:She's kinda cool. But you would like it.
Bankole:What? Thick of it?
Ayisha:Yeah. You don't you for example, Veep and Thick of It will be nice if they had, like, a little multiverse going on. But Thick of It is really different to Veep in the sense of, like, I feel like, a lot of day you may like Thick of it and maybe not like Veep.
Bankole:Oh, that's interesting.
Lolade:Okay.
Ayisha:Although they're very, very similar, like, I do also feel like, think of it as a bit more it's a bit more like succession in the sense of, like, this swear words every other minute. It's way more like Wait.
Bankole:You think, you know You know? Veep is very vulgar.
Ayisha:Veep is
Bankole:vulgar. Spirit.
Ayisha:Veep Veep is vulgar, but I feel like Veep is a bit more accurate. Like, they're both really accurate to the political landscape, but I would say Yeah. I don't know. Like, think of it as more of a rugged thing, and it's clear that it was the first one made, and Vipo's the more refined one.
Bankole:Fair enough. Yeah. I mean, it was like people came to him. I was like, okay. Yeah.
Bankole:I need to come and do the American thick of it. He tried. He failed. Like, he I think it it wasn't ordered to parts. It just wasn't good.
Bankole:So I was like, okay. I have an idea. Let me do v. Mhmm. I was thinking of what you said about reality.
Bankole:Julia the goat, Louis Dreyfus, mentioned about how she would often get people from, like, both sides, Democrats and Republicans like, oh, you got you got them so correct. Like, Democrats are like, oh, you got the Republicans so right. Republicans like the Democrats because because they never actually I don't think they mention her party.
Ayisha:No. I don't think they do. I don't think they do. They don't mention her party.
Bankole:So everybody was told it was about the other side. But anyway, yeah.
Ayisha:No. She's good.
Bankole:The death of Stalin movie, it's kind of like traces the aftermath of Stalin's death and kind of like the everybody's rushing for power. So if you like political satire, if you like palace intrigue, I'll definitely check it out. It's a movie. One of the black comedy. We've already mentioned beach.
Bankole:Thick of it. Just trying to throw recommendations there if you like particle satires.
Ayisha:Which others which others are there?
Bankole:Obviously, if so for some reason you listen to this and you've watched this show, but you you've never heard about succession, I I guess succession, like, it's there. Yeah. Succession. Yeah. I think that I think I can't think of any well, I'm sure we'll think of other things as we go on.
Bankole:Mhmm. That's the undoing.
Ayisha:The great the great is also on the
Bankole:The great.
Lolade:Oh, I love the great.
Ayisha:Royal satire type thing going on.
Bankole:Yeah. The great is the one show that I was like, that's the one show that can compete. It's probably more vulgar than a succession to be fair because
Ayisha:Yeah. It is.
Bankole:They were very words around on that show. The greats, rest in peace to
Ayisha:Oh my god.
Bankole:The great one. Okay. That's a that's a good
Lolade:Yeah. That's
Bankole:a good place to leave it. What what does she say? Have a oh, god. I should've written it down. Not peaceful mind.
Bankole:What did she say?
Lolade:Yeah. She does say it strives to have a peaceful mind.
Bankole:Was it peaceful that she said?
Lolade:My Yeah. Mindful heart? Peaceful. Peaceful mind?
Bankole:By the way, for me, Aisha Malade, please strive to have a more peaceful mind. And we'll be back next week to talk about episode 2 of a show that we hope we
Ayisha:Yes.
Bankole:Like, continue to love. Yep. For now, please, if you're listening so far, please rate and review. Please send us comments. Put comments on the YouTube.
Bankole:Send us tweets, DMs, whatever. If you have any thoughts Or recording slightly ahead just for personal reasons so, like, we might obviously get your thoughts a bit later but we'll try to address them as as, soon as possible. So thank you for listening and join us next week when the 3 of us will be joined by the one only Oscar winner, Daniel Kalia.
Ayisha:Yep.
Bankole:Bye, guys.
Lolade:Bye.