Todd Callender: Our Entire Government are ACTORS

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Seth Holehouse: 01:31

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. So one of my favorite guests, Todd Callender, will be joining us today. And we're gonna be topping talking about a topic that he's been covering, which I think is really important, is the fact that all of these elected officials never took their oaths of office. And there's some breaking news coming out of Epoch Times about Fauci and all these different directors that also did not take their oath of office.

Seth Holehouse: 02:01

And so this is very strange that you basically have all of these actors that are pretending to be these officials that are running our government. And so I've got a bunch of questions for Todd. Why are they doing it? What are the implications? Is it part of some white hat operation?

Seth Holehouse: 02:18

Or is it part of some criminal enterprise? And just where are we at overall in this battle? So folks, this is gonna be a really deeply engaging and hopefully enjoyable inter interview with Todd Callender. Before we get started, make sure you're following me on social media. It's maninamerica.

Seth Holehouse: 02:34

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Seth Holehouse: 02:51

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Seth Holehouse: 03:13

So that sounds great. To enter in though, go to SilverSeth.com. So again, that's SilverSeth.com. You just need your name and your email. Alright, folks.

Seth Holehouse: 03:25

Let's jump in this interview with Todd Callender. Todd, it's just great to have you back on the show. Thank you so much for joining us today.

Todd Callender: 03:35

It's one of my favorite times, Seth. I love being with you. Thank you for having me.

Seth Holehouse: 03:39

Of course. And there's just, well, obviously, it's an absolute joy to talk with you. But you're, you're, you're brilliant, you're paying attention. And you're kind of a jack of all trades, you can go from talking legal lawfare to vaccines to new war to order to central bank digital currency, which is that's where, like, I'm not really an expert in anything, but I know enough about a lot of subjects to make an interesting conversation. And so it's just it's it's great.

Todd Callender: 04:04

I don't know, man. You know, I look at you and some of my other friends like you and you interview so many people and you get to ask them these great penetrating questions. I think that actually makes you the repository of knowledge. So actually, enjoy talking to you because you've got knowledge I don't have. I really appreciate it.

Seth Holehouse: 04:23

Well, it's funny because I was interviewing another host at one point and we're talking about this exact subject and he goes, you know, he's like, he's like, what we are, are pearl stringers. You have all these brilliant people that have the pearls. And what we do is we string them all together. And so, know, I just interviewed Naomi Wolf this morning, right? So I get to talk to her and see what she's doing and then talk to General McInerney and see what he thinks and then pull all these things together and it really helps to form the picture because it I mean, we're really I feel like that we're at this very multi pronged war where there's so much happening on so many different fronts that it can be overwhelming, but sometimes it's helpful to take a step back and see where everything fits together.

Todd Callender: 05:06

Yeah. The fog is clearing, you know. Sorry about the analogies and the colloquialisms, but there are things that apply. You know, we're seeing the information has escaped the genies out of the bottle. We've been in this war and it's been really frankly held for a couple three years, but now we're starting to get perspective and we can actually see what's happening.

Todd Callender: 05:28

Thanks really to you and your other pearl stringers. It's a great analogy. It's coming and the revelations. We're really here, Seth. It's all coming out.

Todd Callender: 05:38

It's all related.

Seth Holehouse: 05:40

It is. Which brings us to one of the topics I want to hone in on today is that I know that, you know, you've been talking about for quite some time now the fact that you discovered that all of these elected officials didn't actually take their And so they were almost like like actors. They were they were

Todd Callender: 05:58

almost. They are actors. Are. They're impersonating federal officials.

Seth Holehouse: 06:01

Exactly. And so which was kind of wild. And so I want to talk about that. But I want to bring up just this this here's an Epoch Times article. I saw this pop up, I think it was yesterday, which just, like blew my mind.

Seth Holehouse: 06:13

Said, Oh, thank goodness I've got Todd scheduled to come on tomorrow because this is exactly it. So I'm gonna read through this and I want to hand it to you because you can give a lot more background on what we're seeing here with this Epoch Times article, but also what you've found and what your team has been working on. This is on, the Epoch Times. It says Fauci, other NIH officials may not have been legally appointed to their offices, house GOP says. So I'm gonna read a few things here.

Seth Holehouse: 06:40

So former NIAID director, Doctor. Anthony Fauci and a dozen other directors of the National Institutes for Health, NIH, appear not to have been legally appointed to their offices according to a year long investigation by the House Energy and Commerce Committee Republicans. Because of the questions about their legal status, every decision made by the directors, including most critically the winners of nearly $26,000,000,000 in research grants, could be subject to extended litigation or outright nullification. And it continues here, this is I think a very important part of this. Among the 26,000,000,000 in grants now in question is the latest to EcoHealth Alliance, the New York based nonprofit through which the NIH sent at least $1,700,000 to the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China.

Seth Holehouse: 07:35

So basically, if I'm understanding this correctly, there's all these officials that are in a government capacity that did not, they're discovering they did not take their oaths, nullifying their position mean that they're they're a fraud. It's like it's like a doctor who never went to medical school coming in and pretending to be a doctor. And not only would it nullify their positions, but potentially every decision, every order, every directive they've instituted while at these organizations. So I'm going hand it over to you, Todd. What do you make of all this?

Todd Callender: 08:16

Okay, so the short answer is yes, you have that exactly right. The operative law here is five USC, that's US code three thousand three hundred thirty two and three thousand three hundred thirty one. And this law arises, believe it or not, out of, Benedict Arnold. So back in the origins of our country, you know, the the fight for independence, the revolutionary war, Benedict Arnold was a traitor and disclosed to the British where battles were gonna happen and what fortifications we had. And so when you then succeed and you have your country, how does one, get people to actually act only for you?

Todd Callender: 09:01

Right? Because our country was full of traders at the time. They call them loyalists. So how does one establish a duty? If I hire you, Seth, because you're gonna be my secretary of defense, how do I make sure Seth is really the one that's gonna do the job and and that he's gonna be loyal to this enterprise we call America?

Todd Callender: 09:22

And the short answer is you create a legal duty, a lawful duty to say, okay, Seth, you swear this out with your life under penalty of perjury or maybe on your own death. How does that happen? Because if you swear an oath and you say you're going to do this job and you're going to be loyal and you don't, then the statute that applies is treason. And treason means death for you. Sedition and treason, the punishment is capital.

Todd Callender: 09:48

You're going to die. And so we found out more than a year ago or so when we actually filed suit against the secretary of defense in his official capacity, the DOD, HHS, and FDA, all of those secretaries were in fact named in my lawsuit. Why? Because we sued them in their official capacity because they had an oath, we thought, and their job was to perform the duties of this particular office. So in the process of figuring this out, we saw kinds of weird things like the secretary, Mr.

Todd Callender: 10:24

Austin, also hadn't registered under FORAs, Foreign Agent Registration Act. So if you've got foreign influence that might affect your judgment, you have to report that. And we did FOIA, Freedom of Information Act requests, on him and there was no FARA registration and nine months went by before we finally got a response from the Department of Defense as to his oath of office. And what we got was a defective one. It didn't count.

Todd Callender: 10:51

The statute is actually very clear. There are several statutes on the subject. The exact language that must be used, they get thirty days from the time they're appointed to actually execute this thing. It must be, sworn in front of a notary. And if not then, thanks to a statute that arises out of COVID, then it must be sworn under penalty of perjury.

Todd Callender: 11:13

And he didn't do that. And as part of this process, we came to find it wasn't just him, entire cabinet either didn't take their oaths of office or they had defective ones that just somebody, you know, kind of scribbled that they witnessed this, which is defective. And when that defect happens, the way the statute reads everything those people did by failing to take their oath of office is void ab initio. That means as though it didn't happen. So in the case of Mr.

Todd Callender: 11:42

Austin, think, holy cow, we went to war, you know, and we left Afghanistan with $88,000,000,000 worth of assets. 1,400,000 service members were required to take a suicidal kill shot. All of that happened when he had no duty, no oath, right? And therefore could not theoretically be charged for treason. We found the entire cabinet is in the exact same position and we went to file something called a writ qua warranto.

Todd Callender: 12:10

This is how one seeks redress. The statute says you gotta bring it to the attention of the attorney general or the U. S. Attorney first. And we couldn't bring it from the attorney general because he also had a defective vote.

Todd Callender: 12:22

He didn't even have an appointment date on his. And so we served it. You know, I hired somebody to serve it as a proper lawsuit upon the U. S. Attorney.

Todd Callender: 12:31

And as that, unfolded, he also had a defective oath of office. And we come to find now that the vast majority of the people in our government, I wasn't sure about Fauci, but according to The Epoch Times, I fully believe that does not have enough of office. In other words, Seth, the entirety of our government in these appointed positions are actors. They are impersonating federal officials. And when we go to sue in the Federal District Court of Washington DC, because that who is who has jurisdiction, we came to find none of them also have effective votes of office.

Todd Callender: 13:08

Only the chief judge has one that's defective. None of the other judges have it. So where exactly are we gonna go with our writ quo moronto? We've asked the question Freedom of Information Act request on the Supreme Court justices because if not in the federal district court, then we believe it's in the US Supreme Court. But there are questions that remain.

Todd Callender: 13:28

Are they even lawfully serving in their positions? We don't know.

Seth Holehouse: 13:33

And what an insane concept, just to try to wrap my head around that, you know, because, you know, we've lived under this administration. We've seen what Biden has done to the economy, the border, to the vaccine rollout. I mean, all of this. It's one thing. Let's just say that there's a local company or there's a local, say government that's doing things pretty well, running their town pretty well, and they're taking care of the people, they're fixing the roads, and you discover that one of the key people there that never actually took his oath, you might say, hey, okay, why don't you just make sure you go take it because it's really important.

Seth Holehouse: 14:12

But it's another thing is if there's been almost an insurrection, and there's been a coup and a hostile takeover of our government and that these people are actively destroying and dismantling our country and maiming our families and our children. There's a million questions I have, but I guess why? Let's start right there. Why? Yeah, that's the thing is that because like Please, I want to tell you.

Seth Holehouse: 14:41

Yeah, because I can say you look at Biden, for instance, you know, we know that they they stole the election, you know, that that Pence, said, okay, let's go through with it. So, you know, why why wouldn't they just continue on with the ruse and just go ahead and do the oaths and, and not have this loophole? Like, what's behind that? Because it's like, I can't understand it.

Todd Callender: 15:03

Yes, precisely right. It's incomprehensible until you look at the jury instructions for treason and sedition. So if I'm going to go after you for sedition and treason, one of the things I have to prove as a prosecutor is that you had a duty and that you violated that duty. How does one manifest? How does one demonstrate that duty?

Todd Callender: 15:29

It's by an oath of office. And so this particular statute and operative law comes from the civil war. So you had two sides, the the south and the north, the north winds, and now you got Abraham Lincoln or whoever was after him actually was the next president who said, how are we going to reincorporate these people back into our government? We need them.

Seth Holehouse: 15:51

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Seth Holehouse: 16:11

This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine. I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us. And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food.

Seth Holehouse: 16:44

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Seth Holehouse: 17:09

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Todd Callender: 18:34

So the point of it is because those actual words are the duty. So if I were to, for instance, do you for treason, I was going to prosecute you, I would have to prove that duty. And that duty is demonstrated by the oath. And therefore, if you don't have a sworn oath of office, you didn't have the duty, then I cannot prosecute you for treason or sedition. I could prosecute you for, impersonating a federal officer, right?

Todd Callender: 19:04

But that's not a capital offense. You might get a couple of years for that. But if you had a duty, then I could get you and probably put you to death for that. So that's the bottom line is that all of these people are involved in the grandest criminal enterprise ever known to the history of humanity. And they're so damn crafty that they figured out let's not take an oath of office.

Todd Callender: 19:24

And by the way, it seems to be government wide and it goes back to circa 1964. We found in 1963 on January 10, the communist manifesto was read into the congressional record. And it has 45 or 50 points, number 13 of which is to eliminate the oath of office. Not by coincidence, November of that year, President Kennedy was assassinated. And sixty years later to the day, President Biden makes the declaration of North America.

Todd Callender: 19:56

That is the declaration that our country no longer exist. January tenth of this year, '60 years after the congressional record contains a communist manifesto, he declared North America, meaning that our country, Canada and Mexico are no longer sovereign. So the destruction of our country was done on that date. All 45 items in communist manifesto are tic tac, all of them have been instituted. So we figured that nobody's had an oath of office since circa 1964.

Seth Holehouse: 20:29

Gosh. So basically, someone takes that oath of office, and then they violate that oath of office, it's treason, and it's potentially punishable by death. And so that's, that's the reason I never thought of that. I was trying to make it make sense of it. But so by just not taking the oath of office, they can't get, they cannot be punished through execution, because it's not treason.

Seth Holehouse: 20:59

It's okay. Well, say it's the same thing as say I go to a hospital and pretend to be a doctor, and I get caught, right, like Catch Me If You Can in Leonardo DiCaprio movie. Maybe after a year of that I get caught and they say okay, we're gonna put you in prison for five years for impersonating a medical professional or impersonating a doctor. They can't say that we're going to kill you for treason. Right?

Seth Holehouse: 21:21

Because

Todd Callender: 21:21

Well, analogy is really important. So if you were in that scenario, nobody could sue you for malpractice. Why? Because you weren't a doctor. It's the same kind of a thing.

Todd Callender: 21:32

Wow. Wow. Yeah, smart. It's crafty, isn't it?

Seth Holehouse: 21:36

My goodness. And so now I want to hone in on something as it relates to the North American treaty. Because you brought a good point up there, and I want to kind of dig into that more. So basically, is it what's happening is that they've snuck into our government, which the communists have been doing for over half a century, if not longer, right? Yes.

Seth Holehouse: 21:59

They've come into our government, And that without us knowing, it's almost like they released termites into the foundation of the house and no one really

Speaker 3: 22:07

knows about it

Seth Holehouse: 22:08

until one day you wake up and the walls are no longer there. So are they are they dissolving America as a country? And that's how they're going to bypass the constitution?

Todd Callender: 22:20

What constitution? So the answer is yes to all three of those things. Here's some highlights how we got here. Number one, the law of war, Fourth Hague Convention says that if substantial government functions have been taken over by an opponent, then they've won the war. So substantial government functions, does that include the military?

Todd Callender: 22:42

Does that include the White House? Does that include congress? How many dual citizens do we have in congress amongst others? Who's on the Chinese payroll? So by that metric alone, our country is gone.

Todd Callender: 22:52

Secondarily, how does one in fact define sovereignty? How is that arrived at? There's a checklist. There's a laundry list of things that that was used by the United Nations and others to decide whether somebody is sovereign. And and usually it's a conglomerate of people that that stake out territory and they make a joint defense pact, and they say, is ours.

Todd Callender: 23:13

We're gonna defend this territory. So, when Biden got with Obadore and Trudeau, the three of them in Mexico City on 01/10/2000 this year sorry, 2023, And they said, we are making the declaration of North America that our countries effectively no longer exist. Then there's no more territory. They're not defending it. Our military is not going to defend it.

Todd Callender: 23:39

How and why? Because 1,400,000 service members were mandated to take a poison shot that has decimated our military. At least one quarter of our folks have left the military. Those that are still serving are sick and dying. So by that metric, we are we've also lost our our office, our our country.

Todd Callender: 24:00

And then lastly is really just a a function of what we're looking at now, who's running this country. And if nobody in government has a duty to the maintenance of this country, even if Biden's oath of office was in fact correct, he has a separate duty, not espoused in five USC three fifty two. It doesn't matter because he already declared that our country no longer exists. So by every single metric, our country was already done away of but it all of this was predicated really on one thing that happened on January it's not January 13, March thirteenth, the reserves twenty twenty, and that is when president Trump declared a national emergency. When he did that, our constitution was suspended.

Todd Callender: 24:46

So right after that came the public health emergency that the secretary of health and human services declared that eliminated our human rights. So first win our constitutional rights immediately thereafter win our human rights. By all of those together, this is where we find ourselves decimated.

Seth Holehouse: 25:05

My goodness. So, you know, know you don't live in America, you know, I'm living in Ohio. And when I look around in this country, everything, for the most part, seems to be running as usual. You You know, you turn the TV on, you can see the talking heads in DC. You know, there's still local law.

Seth Holehouse: 25:25

I mean, it's not complete anarchy. So the house that has termites in the walls, it's like the walls haven't collapsed yet. But what do you think is the end goal of this? Like what, so they've snuck in, they've just, they've rotted away the structure, they've nullified the country, they're all acting, but they're they've been acting and acting and acting for so long that you just take their their word as the gospel as an elected official. Sure.

Seth Holehouse: 25:55

Like, do you think that it's, you know, one day just that the UN shows up and there's an announcement that America no longer exists or like, where does this lead?

Todd Callender: 26:04

Well, that kind of already happened when the three presidents, well, one the prime minister got together and said, okay, we're now North America area. You no longer have your sovereignty, but let just plant this seed. Okay. So what you said is really important. Everything's kind of going on, right?

Todd Callender: 26:19

They're not helping. They're not actually doing their jobs and yet everything's going on. What does that say about our need for government? In the last two years, do we really need these jokers? You know, what are they bringing to the table?

Todd Callender: 26:33

So anyway, but there's some important parts that I want you to understand that I don't live in The United States. I haven't lived in my in The United States from my adult life. I've always practiced international law, and I've been in other countries, Eastern Europe, Poland, Cuba, and now I I remain in The Caribbean, but I've worked and lived across the world. And in that process, I've done my very level best to frustrate the march towards a one world government, one world regulator, single market economy that is already in place. And I keep saying this, but people don't realize it.

Todd Callender: 27:06

Since 01/01/2016, the Organization for Economic and Cooperative Development already took over the world. They took over the tax and fiscal policy of 183 countries. And if you control the tax fiscal policy, you control the country. They've already created this giant information, matrix where they track every asset on the planet for the last living grieving person who has any interest financially or otherwise. And they have tax inspectors without borders.

Todd Callender: 27:33

Those laws were done in The United States as well, but by a different name. The whole rest of the world, they're called common reporting standards. The ICD-ten codes that you hear about in the hospital come from the OECD. The shared classification of chemicals and everything else that you can imagine, uniform commercial code is all in accordance with the OECD's mandate. So they have been in charge this whole time.

Todd Callender: 27:58

They just forgot to tell Americans, Oh, by the way, you're also part of this whole thing. Our government did that. They didn't want people to know. And so they acted like it wasn't so even though it is. And we are the last, hope really for the entire planet insomuch that every other country that got rid of the guts as part of this process.

Todd Callender: 28:18

So there's no hope of armed rebellion, and I think that's why they didn't tell the Americans at the very last. But our president Biden, not like Jesus, I'm sorry, Obama, actually agreed to the small arms treaty with the United Nations, which means that they have to start taking everybody's guns. By hook or crook, they're trying it and we're not going along with it. So hopefully people will now realize this one world government already exists, save for one important issue. And that is, I think Vladimir Putin double crossed the OECD and the UN, and said, no, we're not going to go along with this.

Todd Callender: 28:53

Because if you have competition for citizens, if you're offering citizens come here and you can be a Christian and you can have land and you can do those things, that's competition to a one world government, and that cannot coexist. So I think between Trump and Putin, they threw a monkey wrench in this whole plan. And by the grace of God, we remain armed and not, not in a war against our own government.

Seth Holehouse: 29:18

And it's interesting to think about the fact that this has been going on for so long. Yet you're right. We still

Todd Callender: 29:23

have the

Seth Holehouse: 29:25

second amendment. Like they still can't,

Todd Callender: 29:27

you

Seth Holehouse: 29:28

know, they still can't break that because it's just, it's part of the DNA of all Well,

Todd Callender: 29:33

and we will not do it. Right? There's 500,000,000 guns amongst 300,000,000 people. What does that tell you? Americans will not give up the guns and, they figured they're going to have to take them.

Todd Callender: 29:45

Well, you know, how are you going to go about enforcing that? Wouldn't it be easier if you were worried about an armed rebellion or a fight with your own constituents, wouldn't it just be easier to make them all sick and dead? Who cares how many guns they got? We'll just give them some shots. What does it matter if people have guns, if they're sick and dying?

Todd Callender: 30:02

So you give them this fake disease and then you give them the solution for the fake disease right out of the Hegelian dialectic. So don't forget when you ask the question, why are they doing this? The owners of this world have a motto, it's called ordo ab cow in Latin that means order from chaos. So they're creating as much chaos as they can so that they can institute their solution, Right? Problem, reaction, solution.

Todd Callender: 30:28

That vacuum of chaos will be filled with order. That order is effectively what it is that China has. Right? It's a totalitarian government. You have no rights.

Todd Callender: 30:39

And by the way, this feeds right into everything else where these shots that if you should survive them, you are now somebody else's chattel property. You have no rights. You're never going to get rights. You belong to the patent holders. And so you'll live in that fifteen minute city because I told you to.

Todd Callender: 30:54

And by the way, you're going to get universal basic income because we're just going to go ahead and harness your body to do calculations and we'll use you as a battery source. And you know, you can play your video games, but that's it. You don't get to travel. You don't need airline tickets to go somewhere. All of this is coming together.

Todd Callender: 31:13

And what we came to find is all of this was in the shots. It's the hydrogel. All of this has been planned for at least fifty years. Amazing planning, except there's they ran into one problem. And that was the timing.

Todd Callender: 31:26

It was so critical that four years from Trump screwed it all. It's the biggest monkey wrench ever thrown into the mix. And so now they become obvious and people are waking up and understanding everything you and I are talking about. They're going, holy cow, I'm not going with that.

Seth Holehouse: 31:40

And so this, I mean, and that's the thing is when you look at this from the thousand foot, hundred thousand foot view, you can see gosh, this has been in the works. It's been planted so meticulous. That one, know, Trump getting in, yeah, it did throw a massive monkey wrench into things. So And they freaked. Yeah.

Seth Holehouse: 31:59

And so, do you think, that that was enough to change the course of the history and ultimately collapse their plans for what they're trying to do?

Todd Callender: 32:09

Yes, I think so. I think they had planned this so carefully, these cogs fitting together in this giant wheel so meticulously that that four years by itself, almost irrespective of things that Mr. Trump did. And by the way, he did a lot of really good things. You know, got us out of the WHO, got us out of the Paris Climate Accords.

Todd Callender: 32:29

You know, those are really important things that really, and almost most important stuff is he gave us back pride in our country, gave us back pride to be Americans and that wouldn't work. It's not compatible with a one world government, a slave system like they have in China, a programmable currency where you don't get to eat too much meat if you use too much carbon credits. He gave us our pride back.

Seth Holehouse: 32:56

Yeah, that's one of the most important things too is the identity, the idea, right? That's why that's the most dangerous thing actually is, I'm not sure if you've seen, Inception, but where they talk about that, they said about that about an idea like how it can spread like cancer. And that's what that's what I think they're most frightened of is just that idea that we deserve to be free, and that we should cherish our public and like fight for

Todd Callender: 33:24

each other.

Seth Holehouse: 33:25

Right? And exactly. And cherish each other. And that's like that. And that idea is spreading like wildfire.

Todd Callender: 33:30

It's so important, Seth, those two things together, right? They need division. They need hatred. The one thing they can't allow is for humanity to come together and love each other is we don't really need government. That's what I'm trying to say to you.

Todd Callender: 33:45

What exactly are they getting? You know, in the days before government in Colorado where I came from, you know, it was a territory. It was only a state a little more than a hundred years ago. Before that people just banded together. You know, had fire brigades, everybody volunteered, volunteers, sheriffs, you know, people work stuff out amongst themselves.

Todd Callender: 34:04

What exactly do we need this for anyway? And they can't have us understand that. They got to keep us all excited. You know, the white rage in the military. I'm sitting here at Sister Joe, what, who, what?

Todd Callender: 34:15

Humanity coming together peacefully loving each other. That's that's the goal.

Seth Holehouse: 34:22

And so, you know, part of this is this this part of their plan, kind of going back to understanding that, you know, the mechanisms of their plan. Was actually pulling up a website just now that I want to talk about. So I've talked a lot about central bank digital currency. I've also done a put a lot of effort into understanding and studying the Chinese social credit system and how that works over there, how to use it. And even how they know when a woman is ovulating, when they know when a woman is pregnant, so they can, I literally heard stories of them tracking women and their biometrics so closely in China that back when they had their, you know, say their two child policy, it's only, you can only have a second child if you didn't have a male first?

Seth Holehouse: 35:04

Let's just say that a woman had a son, and she fell pregnant, right, so that second child was not allowed to be born under those particular rules. They would know in their system, their AI would know, this woman's already has a son. And based upon these different things, her emotional statuses online based upon her shopping history, she's now purchasing, you know, these items that indicate they will know that she's pregnant. And so what happens is that she's walking on the street one day, a van pulls up, she gets thrown into the back of it, she's six months pregnant, they forcefully abort her baby, they put it into a bucket next to her bed for her to look what look at and live with, and that's it. Like, so I mean, unfortunately, I've spent a lot of time studying these systems and the threat of them, but there's something that just is is kind of come out in the past couple weeks I really want to hear you talk about which I want to really dig into.

Seth Holehouse: 35:58

And that's this under the BIS, right, the Bank of International Settlements. Yeah. Their blueprint for the future monetary system, which are you familiar with this?

Todd Callender: 36:10

It's fee based.

Seth Holehouse: 36:12

And basically what they say is that the tokenization of money and assets, right? So kind of creating digital tokens that show I own this property, I own this. So let's dive into that.

Todd Callender: 36:26

Yeah. So as I mentioned, the OECD, Organization for Economic and Cooperative Development, put out something called the common reporting standards. In The United States, it was done through legislation called FADCA, the Foreign Accounts Tax Compliance Act. And that those laws track every last asset on this planet to every last breathing person. So if you had a let's say you had a Bahamian company that you own that owned a piece of real estate either in The United States or somewhere else, every financial institution with a very broad definition of debt has to report on you what it has.

Todd Callender: 37:02

So if you were to buy that piece of land or you were to capitalize that company, at least two financial institutions would have reported you at what this transaction was to the OECD through something called the automatic exchange of information portal. Every country has them. And since 2016, they've been dutifully reporting everything on you, everybody globally to this giant information matrix that the OECD has. And on top of that, the OECD has something they call competent authorities. These are OECD delegates, designated people who are above the countries themselves.

Todd Callender: 37:38

So the country I live in has a prime minister. But when COVID happened, the OECD said, you are no longer the one in charge. The competent authority is so and so, and that's who oversees this information matrix, on a per country basis. So the facade of sovereignty is in place since 02/2016, January '1, '2 thousand '16. And the information matrix tokenized is already done.

Todd Callender: 38:06

They've already tokenized and tracked every last living person's assets or even where they have control over those resources, not just owning them. Who's related? If you had a trust and the whole family was somehow involved in the trust, all of them would be tracked back to that trust property and everybody that controlled it. So it's here. Now the question, Steph, is what are we going to do about it?

Todd Callender: 38:31

And this is why they hate cash, by the way, right? Because you can't have anonymity with payment systems. And that's what cash provides us. It's portable and it's anonymous. So if you want to control people through spending, you can't have cash, right?

Todd Callender: 38:46

They got to outlaw that or you can't have physical mediums of exchange like gold and silver.

Seth Holehouse: 38:51

Well, it's funny because I've got because we're doing a giveaway right now. I'm giving away five ounces of silver every week, right? And it's funny because that's the same, I had a contractor, it's funny because I find that most of the people I'm working with, where I have some work on whether they're working on the deck or doing some drywall, they're Patriots and I had a contractor who was here for a couple of weeks doing great work and he actually watches the show all the time now, right, discovered that. I had to pay him for his work and I said, Hey, can I pay you in silver? And he goes, Yeah, that's great.

Seth Holehouse: 39:21

Yeah. Right? So that's something that like even further than, than cash, it's just like this little chunk of metal that's been formed, got dug out of the earth is something like it's it's the ultimate threat to them.

Todd Callender: 39:35

You bet it is. And you know, it's really nice to see some states, Utah being one of them, like Arkansas is another one, are actually putting into their statutes that, you know, precious metals are a medium of exchange. They are recognized as payment systems, and thank God for It goes back, Seth, to choices. If we have free choices and there's competition, then one world government isn't gonna work. And by the way, on your CBDC, there's an interesting piece done by Hopin Tavaugh, their friends of mine, whereby they found a lot of the documents where you and I were talking about how on the FTX exchange, everybody's carbon would be would be measured by virtue of of their biological rhythms.

Todd Callender: 40:17

Right? A system of credits and debits of people's biology as measured in carbon. And so that was related. She and her husband tracked this back to low earth orbiting satellites. The five g satellite sitting up there that Elon Musk stuck up there, They're tracking not just payment systems and all this, the debits and credits happening inside the backs people going through solar towers and and everything else.

Todd Callender: 40:42

And I will send you I think they did three different interviews on it. All of the evidence is really there. All of this was planned, and I think a good guy blew up FTX. I think that that that you would have seen a hundred and $10,000,000,000 through their money laundering through a Democratic National Committee. That was money that went to Ukraine and came back through FTX and then back to them.

Todd Callender: 41:06

But that's that platform was to track and trade people's carbon credits. And, and that whole thing blew up, guess it was a couple months ago. So I don't know who the white hat was or white hats were to do that, but God bless them. They put another giant wrench in the works.

Seth Holehouse: 41:22

So you mentioned white hats. This makes me want to bring up just a question to get your perspective on this because so the the concept of all of these officials being actors, right? You know, Fauci, you know, all these officials, which really, I mean, I believe that because whether you want to call them an actor or a fraud or an imposter, it's someone pretending to be someone that they they legally are not. Right? So now there's some people that they take that they take that story, and they say, look, this is actually proof that they're all this is all part of a well orchestrated plan.

Seth Holehouse: 42:02

And that they're just playing their role and they're showing us how bad things really could be before the White Hats come in and save everybody. And to me, like, maybe I would have believed that whole story, you know, back around, you know, early twenty twenty one. But by this point, after the vaccine rollout, after all the death, after the destruction of the southern border, it's like there's too many things that have been irreversibly bad for our nation. And so, I'm more likely to think that, that the fact that they're actors is actually just another indicator of their criminal action. Not that they're, you know, they're playing some sort of part to help wake people up.

Seth Holehouse: 42:39

But I wanted to see what your thoughts were on that because you see a lot more of the back end of these Yeah,

Todd Callender: 42:46

I share your view. There is definitely a white hat or at least a lead white hat. You and I know them. Funny enough because none of this, this should have happened and it hasn't. And there's only one reason for that, another God's divine hand.

Todd Callender: 42:59

God is the white hat. So that's why we're here talking because by virtue of their plans, you and I should be dead, and we're not. And when you look at, for instance, the the Ukrainians, the Nazi Azov battalion shelling Chernobyl for the last God knows how many months, trying to start a nuclear war or trying to spill nuclear materials so that, NATO, under its fifth, I think it's fifth paragraph of the convention, I can't remember which it is, gives to themselves power to go and deal with it. That's they're just dying for an excuse to run-in there. Anyway, but all those shells getting lobbed on Chernobyl would have it hit the mark.

Todd Callender: 43:37

You're talking about US artillery that can drop a ammunition on a dime from 13 miles and somehow they can't hit Chernobyl. So how else do these monkeys Trump getting in office. We know now that the dominion systems was going to make it impossible for Trump to win, and yet he did. We are watching miracle after miracle after miracle, Seth. And you know what the other miracle is?

Todd Callender: 44:01

Is us. Right? Is every last breathing human being coming together to cry out in unison for God's help. That that's a miracle too.

Seth Holehouse: 44:12

Gosh. And what a what a good point. And it's it's interesting because I've I've had that same reflection where I'm looking at all the things that seem like were supposed to happen. You know, I'm a big fan of Mike Adams and he's a good friend and he's a great And you know, he's a lot of people say, Oh, well, he's always, you know, fear mongering and saying this is going to happen, but it never happens. And well, I think that part of it though is actually that, A) he's reading all the all the signs and just like say Michael Yawn who's looking at all the conditions and it's valid information, but I feel like whether it's the financial system not collapsing yet, whether it's famine not being here in America, whether it's, you know, us not being in a nuclear war right now, I just feel like that, like the ultimately we, you you mentioned before, order out of chaos.

Seth Holehouse: 45:05

And that so we look at that as being their number one guiding principle. The fact that there's actually still so much order in this world, that there isn't the chaos like they're trying in every which way to create the most chaos possible. But I agree. I feel like that there's this white hat God in the, you know, that's surrounding everything that is keeping enough order for some reason. And I feel like what it is, is that once things do get to that point of true chaos, that a certain window of people to choose the fate of their soul will close.

Seth Holehouse: 45:46

And that by extending this window, by holding back that chaos, it's allowing even the people that today are doing evil, and committing heinous sins, it's still giving them an opportunity to repent. It's still giving them an opportunity to choose the right thing. And so I look at it as like that's the ultimate blessing is that more people are getting given more time because say, say two years ago, so many people that now are awake and they're fighting back against the demonic agendas in schools or in the media. Two years ago, they were complicit without even really knowing it. And I saw this, I feel like that's the blessing that we're giving is we're being given this time to allow more people to wake up because I think that once that window closes, I'm not sure what's going happen, but I think it's something significant.

Todd Callender: 46:37

You know, it's funny. From the time that I really jumped into this fight, I guess it's almost three years ago, it started with me being haunted by a Bible passage. Matthew thirteen thirty eight talks about the wheat and the tares. And it's something I have. And if you look at it, it's about souls, right?

Todd Callender: 46:59

The harvesting of souls. Doctor. Tenpenny, who's also a friend of ours, is now kind of arriving at that conclusion separately. But I guess my point in saying that is, I want people to think, you know, you've seen all these miracles that we're still here. You're still worried about, you know, do want to be a believer?

Todd Callender: 47:21

You know, all the consequences of doing that. You know, forget about that. What does it actually cost you? What does it cost you to reestablish or even establish for first time your relationship with God and ask for help? God, please forgive me and God, please help me.

Todd Callender: 47:35

How hard is that? Because that's all it takes. Yeah. We're we're fallible. We're we're fragile beings.

Todd Callender: 47:43

We're God's creation. It's not like God doesn't know we do stupid things, but it costs you nothing to open that relationship. And I see it the same way you do. And I just hope that, I hope it's everybody would, would repent and join us.

Seth Holehouse: 47:59

I agree. I agree. So I want to I want to look ahead a little bit and get your thoughts. So we're getting ready to enter into an election year. And if you look at what they had to pull off in 2020, COVID, changing the election laws, lockdowns, riots.

Seth Holehouse: 48:21

I mean, they had to create so much chaos in America, then create their order, which was an order they control which is okay, we're going to bring order to the voting process, you know, in their order. It took so much to pull that off. The the you know, the media being complicit, all the social media working in conjunction to censor anything that was questioning the election. And that's where we are now, entering into 2024. The illusion is over.

Seth Holehouse: 48:51

I bet I would guess that say say there was 50,000,000 people who'd voted for Joe Biden hypothetically, that a good 30 or 40,000,000 of those people are now like, I can't in good conscience. I might hate Donald Trump, but I cannot vote for Biden again. So with where we're at now heading into 2024, on top of that, you have platforms like Twitter, which have now opened the gates of censorship. You've got Rumble, which is so much larger than it was. How about CloutHub?

Seth Holehouse: 49:21

You've got CloutHub, right? Where you recently had close to a million people tuning in for an amazing, you know, Q and So with with everything that's happened since that, to me, they can't allow this election to happen. Because it's if they steal it again, there's too many eyeballs watching. There's too many independent media, too many social media apps to, they wouldn't be able to do So what do you think their game plan is because they, they cannot let Trump get back in for another four years. It's like if he, if he thought he wrecked things in 2016, he was still playing nice because he had to get back in 2020.

Seth Holehouse: 50:01

You know, if he gets in in 2020 or 2024, he's going to take a wrecking ball to things. So what do you think their playbook might Well,

Todd Callender: 50:11

they told us, first and foremost, what you said is really important for people to understand something here. And that is that all of our government is a facade, right? None of these people are actually working for us. And so we know elections are stolen. What makes you think by the way, it was states too.

Todd Callender: 50:28

We found defective or nonexistent notes of office across states as well. So what makes us think this this voting, this election means anything at all? From a legal perspective, it really doesn't. But from a practical perspective, it is the will of the people. You cannot govern without the consent of the governor.

Todd Callender: 50:47

And the way we demonstrate to them we are not giving you the consent is by voting and saying, we're not taking your crap anymore. We're not taking those guys. We're taking these guys. And we will support these people. We will give them our oath, our allegiance.

Todd Callender: 51:02

We will support them and not use. That's from a pure pragmatic point of view why the election will count. But from a legal perspective, I don't think it actually means a whole lot other than, you know, our society coexists with each other by virtue of these rules that create cold law. And so I guess the where does this fit my thinking? I think that it's unlikely that, any other outcome will happen.

Todd Callender: 51:35

That, everybody is being exposed to the point where it's a foregone conclusion that we're going to have a change back to Trump. And for that reason, they have to finish the job. The job of genocide or Doctor. Tenpin says, genocide is what they were after. And the timeline got accelerated, right, by virtue of his four years of hiatus.

Todd Callender: 51:57

Their job was to kill 7,000,000,000 people, Seth, and they didn't do it. So now they've got to finish it. And when I say they've already done it, or they already told us what they're do, don't forget that there were Marburg provisions of the PrEP Act that said, if there's ever a Marburg epidemic, then we will spend this money to do these things. They declared a Marburg pandemic years ago, March thirteenth of twenty twenty. There's no Marburg, but it happens to be one of these hemorrhagic fevers that's very deadly.

Todd Callender: 52:24

And we found evidence to suggest they put Marburg in the lipid nanoparticles and can remotely turn it on. And by the way, they removed effective treatments that are already exist, fenbendazole, albanazol, etcetera, from people knowing about those. The whole playbook is here again. So by hook or by crook, they don't care. Start a nuclear war, have a Marburg pandemic, start any kind of a civil war.

Todd Callender: 52:50

Any of those will do, but they must kill us, right, to stop us. That's the answer to your question. And they will do everything in their power to do that.

Seth Holehouse: 53:00

And how do we prevent them from doing that?

Todd Callender: 53:04

I think we are and it's knowledge, right? So for instance, I think one of the reasons they haven't rolled out their Marburg pandemic is because everybody's aware of it now. We've all been talking about it. Their zombie apocalypse, right? That was one of their plans and we found all the documents to support it.

Todd Callender: 53:20

That hasn't happened. Why? Because we know about it. And I think the nuclear war, you're trying to shell Chernobyl to start a nuclear leak or trying to bait Vladimir Putin into a fight is because we know about it because we're talking about it. So the more we shine this light on their lives, on their criminal enterprise, the less likely it's going to be that they can have a success because they need others to pull it off.

Todd Callender: 53:48

And if we know about it, we're just not going to go with the program.

Seth Holehouse: 53:53

And that brings up a good point, which I'll say right now is that anybody who's watching or listening, whether this is the premiere and you can't, you can't pause it or say you're listening afterwards or watching afterwards, press pause, and send this interview to one person. Just just pick one person. You've got to have at least one person that will listen to it because we have to we have to start getting these conversations out there more. Because while there's a lot of scary stuff in this, I think fundamentally when you realize the truth of this situation, A, I think that truth is our greatest weapon that we have. But really, truth and knowledge.

Seth Holehouse: 54:29

Right? And that's what it is. It's it's A is truth and B is knowledge. And that's what this brings to the table. And it empowers people.

Seth Holehouse: 54:36

It empowers us to instead of looking at Fauci and feeling like oh my gosh, you know, he's got so much power he's propped up like this dude's an actor. This dude he's not I'm not listening to a single thing he says, you know what I mean? Like he might as well have a latex mask on with like a lizard underneath for all

Todd Callender: 54:53

we know. You

Seth Holehouse: 54:54

know what I mean? So it's like, it's like I'm not listening to this guy anymore. And that's because that's what it takes is that it's like what we have to do is pull aside the curtain that the wizard is behind and realize there's this fragile old man because that's what these people are. These fragile old people that are hanging on to their power through the the illusion they've created that we are weak. And we pull aside that that curtain.

Seth Holehouse: 55:20

That's how we win. And it's conversations like this that help people pull aside that curtain.

Todd Callender: 55:27

You know what a brilliant point. I love that. And there's something else I wanna add to that calculus as people are thinking about it because they're predictable now. Right? We've seen their different means by which they intend to kill us off.

Todd Callender: 55:40

They wrote all this down, by the way. It's how I've been, you know, aware of it. I'm just telling people what it is I read. Know, this is a whole it's it's all been around for a long time. My point is that if you had unlimited resources like the the people for the behind the bank for international settlements, or you were rewarded to be a billionaire because you participated in this whole thing.

Todd Callender: 56:00

And that's pretty much what you find. Every billionaires is because they're part of the plan. What what would you spend money on? You know, you already own all the property you want, own all the women or whatever else What it boils down to is this, what they cannot buy that they want to buy more than anything is time. Right?

Todd Callender: 56:17

Time on this planet. They already sold their souls. They know when they're dead, they're going to hell. So they want time on this planet and that makes them predictable and it makes them dangerous. And you said it exactly correct.

Todd Callender: 56:28

They are fragile. So us being aware of us, us increasing the risk that they are going to not only be found out, but hung is driving them absolutely nuts. So, empowerment, when you said that word, boy, that really struck me. Empowerment of people to do even if it's just something as little as talking about this. So rather than sending this off to one person, how about 10?

Todd Callender: 56:54

We get everybody sent off to 10, especially those people who bought into the COVID nonsense. Those people who have been heretofore reticent to entertain, different thoughts and points of view. Send it to them anyway.

Seth Holehouse: 57:09

That's a good point. That's a good point. And you know, with these, with these, these wizards, know, these Oz's behind the curtain, know, they're dark wizards, which is, which is true. Mean, they're, they're practicing.

Todd Callender: 57:20

Yes, they are.

Seth Holehouse: 57:21

You know, they're, they're part of the occult, They're doing satanic ritual abuse. Absolutely. You know, they're harvesting adrenochrome, but it's it's all these things have a limit, you know, the elucidated. Probably seen these these celebrity pictures where I think there's one of Celine Dionis that I saw that, you know, after like two years, she looked like she aged 20 years, like something's happening. You know, so maybe it is their fountain of youth that they're harvesting out of people that's running out or, you know, look at Sound of Freedom and popularity of Sound of Freedom, which is exposing this.

Seth Holehouse: 57:52

I mean, they're they're I actually I really believe in this war, they are losing the war. They're losing the war.

Todd Callender: 57:59

They are. We're still here. That's proof of it. We weren't supposed to be.

Seth Holehouse: 58:07

Exactly. Exactly. Well, Todd, I think this is a this is a good place to end. It's a really high note to conclude on. And so do you have do you have any kind of final thoughts for people before we sign off?

Todd Callender: 58:24

Yeah. I think you really hit some important points here, particularly about participation and truth. At the end of the day, you know, truth is such a powerful weapon, Seth. And if we can get people to come to understand and open their minds a little bit or a lot, in case they be, you know, we have the proof. We can prove what the truth is.

Todd Callender: 58:45

We just need people to open their minds enough to embrace it. They're afraid. They don't want to know. And you just want to know that you are certainly going to do two things. Number one, die and go to hell.

Todd Callender: 58:57

So here's your chance to open that door, embrace the truth. And that leads to love and that leads to God. We need a whole lot more of those in our lives.

Seth Holehouse: 59:06

Exactly. Exactly. Well, thank you, Todd, so much for coming on.

Todd Callender: 59:12

My pleasure.

Seth Holehouse: 59:12

And just as a quick announcement to people, know, Todd and I have been talking and we're going to start probably within the next couple of weeks, we got to sort it out and it's gonna be done on Rumble, on CloutHub, on a handful of different platforms, Twitter, that we're gonna start doing live streams together. So we're gonna start doing maybe it's every two weeks or whatever it is, where we have a discussion and then we just spend it could be an extra hour just taking questions from the audience just talking about these topics and it's gonna be absolutely wonderful. So if anyone got this far in the interview, I'd say let us know in the comments what you think about that. If you want us to really do that. I think we'll do it either way, because that's just how we that's how we roll.

Seth Holehouse: 59:53

But I still love to hear what people think about it. But I'm really looking forward to that because I think that the conversations we get into are always so interesting, but somehow they always end up on this message of hope, which is really important because we have to have that.

Todd Callender: 01:00:07

Yeah, we do. We do. And what why would we not be hopeful? Like I said, we're still here, brother. We're having these conversations.

Todd Callender: 01:00:14

That counts, man.

Seth Holehouse: 01:00:15

Exactly. Exactly. Well, you, Todd. Until next time. Take care.

Todd Callender: 01:00:19

God, it's my pleasure. Yeah, likewise. God bless you, man.

Seth Holehouse: 01:00:22

Thank you. All right, folks, I hope you enjoyed that interview. Obviously, we're talking about some pretty serious things happening with especially these financial systems and the digital control systems. And so to follow-up on this, I've now got Kirk Elliott coming on because he's really living specifically in the financial realm but as you know, he's not just your normal finance guy that just well I'm following what the stocks are doing and here's what the bonds are doing and he knows that stuff but he's someone that really puts together the bigger picture of geopolitics because if there's a financial advisor that's not considering what happens when CBDCs roll out, what about this BIS ledger system, what's happening to you know, de dollarization, it's really limited. That's what I really enjoy about Kirk is that he's almost like a Todd calendar of sorts where he's just got so many, such a rounded perspective that he can bring together.

Seth Holehouse: 01:01:14

So I hope you enjoy this interview with Doctor. Kirk Elliott. Kirk, it's great to have you on man. How are you doing?

Speaker 3: 01:01:22

Oh man, it's so great to be on doing well, doing doing really well. And I think my eyeballs might look like saucers because I've been doing so much research over the last forty eight hours. There's a lot of stuff happening right now, like it at a supernatural type speed.

Seth Holehouse: 01:01:38

Yeah, it just it seems like we're on the cusp of something big changing. I'm not, you know, I don't want to say whether it's a really good thing or a really bad thing or it's probably a combination. You know, they always come it comes together with the bad comes the good. But one thing that, like, to me, it wasn't really until those past week that I really started kind of honing in on it. And the more I've dug into it, the more I've been alarmed.

Seth Holehouse: 01:02:04

And that's this, this BIS, Bank of International Settlements, centralized ledger. So I'm gonna run through a couple different web pages here. And then I want to just really hear your thoughts on this. I mean, this is where you live. This is probably where you've been spending a lot of time researching lately.

Seth Holehouse: 01:02:21

So I'll start with this tweet from attorney Tom Rens. And he says, this might be the most terrifying thing I've seen. Now now keep in mind, this is Tom Rens saying this, right? Someone who's on the front line of like suing the the the government and, you know, he's involved in very terrifying things. So those are strong words for him.

Seth Holehouse: 01:02:44

He's also he's also an attorney. He's not so that mince his words. He says the Bank of International Settlements BIS is literally laying out how you will own nothing. Central banks will own your house, your car, your bank account, etc. You'll be able to do things if you comply with their mandates.

Seth Holehouse: 01:03:03

Understand that this is not just a war on freedom, it's a war on humanity. Even your health care could be dependent on how compliant you are with government mandates. Combine this with CBDCs and you have the recipe for the great reset. You will own nothing and like it. So he's referring to this, the BIS centralized ledger and so or unified ledger.

Seth Holehouse: 01:03:27

So I'm gonna go in this other article I have here that just gives a decent summary of it. And then I'm gonna go into their actual documents. I've got a few highlighted points so we can read what they've actually written about this. So this article Unified Ledger Globalist Release Blueprint for Future Monetary System. So it says the new unified ledger agenda has been released by the Bank for International Settlements, BIS, also known as the Bank of Central Banks.

Seth Holehouse: 01:03:54

The plan found on this bis.org link, which I'll go go to is entitled quote, blueprint for the future monetary system improving the old enabling the new. And so they give a summary here. This new plan describes a globalist run quote unified ledger that records the ownership of all assets, checking accounts, real estate, bonds, stocks, etc. On a centralized exchange run by globalists. All assets will be tokenized, a process that the BIS describes as recording claims on financial or real assets that exist on a traditional ledger on a programmable platform.

Seth Holehouse: 01:04:37

The unified ledger will feature programmable entries meaning that your ownership of assets can be revoked or altered at any time. The BIS sees its new unified ledger tracking all the assets issued by central banks. This is even larger than CBDCs. It combines the assets of all central banks while also tokenizing and controlling real estate assets, stocks, bonds, pensions, and anything else that can be represented through digital records. The BIS document goes on to state that all tokenized assets can be subjected to regulate regulatory rules by governments.

Seth Holehouse: 01:05:16

These would include or these could include regulations involving speech, climate change, acceptance of LGBT narratives, conformity to vaccine demands, and so on. So from the paper quote, this dual nature of tokens could be used to good effect in a supervisory and compliance setting by directly embedding supervisory features into the token itself, which can be tailored to specific rules. Now, that's the frightening part to me is them saying that, yeah, these tokens could be tailored to match the rules of the governing body. Meaning like in China, for instance, if you they can seize your real estate, you know, or in America, you know, the same thing. So just to kind of continue setting up the stage for our discussion, I'll just read through a handful of things from their actual report.

Seth Holehouse: 01:06:12

And this is like this is a massive report, so you know, 34 page PDF, but, I've gone through and highlighted a few things I think that are really key. So they're saying that tokenization money has a an assets has great potential, a new type of financial market infrastructure, a unified ledger could capture the full benefits of tokenization by combining central bank money, tokenized deposits and tokenized assets on a programmable platform. And I'll just give a few of my own words here in saying that basically through my like third grade understanding of these things, it's like your your assets will be tracked on a central digital platform, tracked and controlled. That's what they're proposing. Anything that is an asset in their mind, it starts off as being real estate, automobile, stock market stuff, it could eventually become food, maybe that even the food that you're given is tracked as an asset on this.

Seth Holehouse: 01:07:07

So coming down here, actually, I'll scroll through down and I want to read a few points. Okay, so this is the okay, this is really important here. It says, this chapter presents a blueprint for a future monetary system that harnesses the potential of tokenization to improve the old enable the new. The key this is critical. The key elements of the blueprint are central bank digital currencies, tokenized deposits, and other tokenized claims on financial and real assets.

Seth Holehouse: 01:07:38

The blueprint envisages these elements being brought together in a new type of financial market infrastructure, a unified ledger. So I think there's some things I can go through here, but I want to I'll pull those up as we're talking. But, I mean, first off, is this as frightening as it seems? Mean, when you've been tracking this for some time. But what do you make of this, Kirk?

Speaker 3: 01:08:03

It I agree with Attorney Renz. It's like this is when I saw this, it's like, man, this is the scariest thing I think I've ever seen. And the reason I say that is you added up with everything else that we know about central bank digital currencies, what the BIS has said before. And so we connect some of those dots. So we go back to last year and the World Economic Forum, said, Doctor.

Speaker 3: 01:08:34

Pippa Malmgren said that central bank digital currency is basically programmable money, just like what we're talking here, same words, same meaning, right? The ability to cut you off from buying or selling if your digital social profile, basically, which is the mirror image of you to the world. What you spend your money on doesn't match up with what they want you to be. Then you have these other two Bank of International settlements projects, Project Icebreaker and Aurora, which we've discussed on the last couple of shows, which is the ability to cut off bank wires if the use of funds doesn't match up with your ideology. And then real then then Aurora is real time transaction monitoring from every person, company, at every bank in every country.

Speaker 3: 01:09:21

Right? All of that added together. Why? So they can see if your spending matches their ideology, which matches up with your digital social profile. Right?

Speaker 3: 01:09:30

So then you go one step backwards to 2019 when the original Fed Now app legislation or it's not an act, it's not a legislation, it's a ruling from the Federal Reserve, right? Found in the Federal Register, this is when they originally penned it and what they want to do. And they said this was going to come become in effect in 2023 to 2024. And it's the conduit from your your Apple phone, your Android phone to you and your central bank digital currency, the repository, the debit and credit system, which is attached to your digital social profile. Right?

Speaker 3: 01:10:12

So in in those documents at the fed, they talk about a new mechanism of money being that of social control, not just a unit of exchange, not just to hold the value, but of social control. So when you add all of those pieces together and apply them to this new unified ledger, this is what makes it so scary. Because the concept of of or the details of tokenization are in layman's terms, I would say it's just collecting of all your financial data or any data, you know, jumbling it all up, putting it into a package. Right? So now it's all collected in one spot.

Speaker 3: 01:10:52

It's not like it's a token like a coin. It's just the technical word for collecting all of your data, putting it into a package. Now, Bitcoin is tokenization on a decentralized platform. So on blockchain that's decentralized, actually very private. It's immutable and non programmable, meaning you can't change the ownership and you can't look back or change anything.

Speaker 3: 01:11:23

Once this thing is tokenized, it is what it is. It's completely private ownership. You don't know where the funds came from. You don't know where the funds are going, right? It's an amazing concept of privacy, which is why central banks are pooh poohing decentralized cryptocurrency like it's nobody's business.

Speaker 3: 01:11:42

Right? It's like, no, this is terrible. Look what's happening. Look what happened to BlockFi. Look what happened to FTX.

Speaker 3: 01:11:49

Look what what greedy, greedy cryptocurrency people, and you're only going after profit and boy, they're going to jail and all this. Right? Well, they're doing the same thing with actually a big, huge twist, and that is they're centralizing all the data. So they own the data. They know the source, know what the funds are going to be used for.

Speaker 3: 01:12:14

They know the owner, that it's you because it's all centralized, it's not decentralized. So imagine putting into the hands of the globalist your real estate, your cash, your brokerage accounts, every asset that you have into one package, that then when you tokenize that basically under a central bank digital currency, it's the opposite of what we saw with Bitcoin where it's immutable and non programmable. They can program it to do numerous things, shut you off from even being able to access it for all kinds of social engineering reasons. Right? Let's just say you like what that article was saying, let's say you spoke out against child child.

Speaker 3: 01:13:04

Boy, we don't we don't like what you're saying. What if you spoke out against global warming or your carbon footprint or you spoke out against the banking system or politics or religion or anything? It's like, if we don't like you, we're going to cut you off. This is the social control aspect that's in the Federal Register, right, or the Federal Reserve initial documents. You add that all this digital social profile stuff, the ability to cut you off if your ideology doesn't match up, they won't even allow for a bank wire.

Speaker 3: 01:13:36

You can see where all this is coming into play. But the the one thing that's almost as scary as a unified unified ledger is the whole concept of programmable money is that they can also program a time element into it, You know, because real currency, paper money, there's not necessarily a time element. It has value. It's a hold of value, and it's a unit of exchange. So digital money, they can cut it off whenever they want to if they don't like whatever reason.

Speaker 3: 01:14:15

Right? So let's say they were trying to stimulate the economy and they wanted everybody to spend money and and put money into the system to grow the economy. And let's just say, Seth, you had a hundred thousand dollars in your bank account. They could say with a time factor on money, it's like, hey, Seth, use it or lose it, it's going away December 31. If you don't use it, it's gone.

Speaker 3: 01:14:39

So what are you gonna do? You're gonna try to buy as much as you can of your money. What if this is your retirement? You're going to eat away at your retirement, your life savings, your nest egg, which is what most prudent people do as they save up for a rainy day, right? So this whole concept of putting a timetable on your money with programmable money, which is easy to do under this unified ledger system, is get you separated from your money.

Speaker 3: 01:15:07

So why? You don't have money for a rainy day. You don't have money for your retirement. Therefore, it makes you enslaved into their system forever. Moving forward, you have to be dependent on the debit and credit system that they say that you can have the money and when, right?

Speaker 3: 01:15:24

So you add all of that up. It's like, oh my word, this is one of the most scary financial things ever. It's like one of those monumental moments in history of America. You could say Kennedy getting assassinated is one of them. Maybe Nixon taking us off the gold standard from in 1971 and is, you know, a or the the start of the Federal Reserve in the early nineteen hundreds or 09/11, right?

Speaker 3: 01:15:56

There's things that changed in society that always caused something big and massive to follow. Like 09/11, we got the Patriot Act, right? It's like you look at these things, huge massive crisis, huge overreach of a response that changed life forever. This is one of those things that they're going to use a banking crisis to actually strip away our freedoms possibly forever. The ability to buy or sell on what you want, when you want, where you want, with whom you want, it's gone.

Speaker 3: 01:16:30

And the whole concept of ownership, you you don't own your house. Under under Unified Ledger, in their own words, you don't own it. They do. Why would I say that they own it if you actually do? Well, because it's programmable, and they can cut you off from actually doing anything with it unless you agree with them on everything.

Speaker 3: 01:16:54

It's like that's not ownership. Ownership equals control. You don't control your own financial destiny anymore unless you do you act the way that they want you to act. If not, they're going to cut you off from buying or selling. To me, that's not ownership.

Speaker 3: 01:17:09

You give away ownership to the Bank of International Settlements by going into this system. That's what we just gave up, is ownership of our assets under the system. That's why I think this is one of the most dangerous things I've ever seen.

Seth Holehouse: 01:17:26

Well, and part of it is that, you know, we look at say a savings account, and for someone to think that, you know, we've talked about CBDC and so say, one day they say, okay, as of today, all assets in checking and savings accounts are being converted to CBDC tokens, right? That's a frightening scenario. But someone might say, Well, okay, I've also got my land, I've got my four zero one ks, I've got money in the stock market, I've got a Vanguard IRA. So they're thinking, Okay, well, I still have these other backups, but this is almost turning all those things into CBDC. And so I'm going to read, a few more parts of this this, this document that they released about this because it helps paint the overall picture because you can see that what they're doing with this is they're trying to build that same narrative that the only thing you can trust is the central bank, right?

Seth Holehouse: 01:18:18

That they're the ones that you can trust to handle this. And that's exactly what every government does when they come in, it starts off as a good thing. And then before you know it, it's communist China or communist Soviet Union, is they say, look, it's actually, you know, these small state run governments, you know, these 50 states, that's not really gonna work anymore. So it's gonna be one super central federal government overseeing everything. And so I'll pull this back up.

Seth Holehouse: 01:18:44

There's a few things to read here. So one here they say is that central banks could work with regulated private entities to develop technological solutions and standards to meet specific case uses. But here here's the key, but with their public interest mandate, central banks are the best place to establish a common venue for each use case by interlinking the monetary system. And here's their key, proper oversight and supervision will be a prerequisite for this endeavor. So again, they're positioning it and saying, well, this is a great system, but only if it all runs through the central bank.

Seth Holehouse: 01:19:22

So it's imagine if now the central bank is monitoring where you own land or where you have assets. But then I'll continue down here. This is a really detailed document. So here's where they're saying that for this ledger, for this unified ledger to work, you must have a central bank digital currency. Right?

Seth Holehouse: 01:19:45

And this is the key. So they say that the full potential of tokenization needs a monetary unit of account that denom that denominates transactions as well as the accompanying means of payment. However, for the reasons highlighted above, central bank money in the settlement finality that it brings is a much firmer foundation for tokenization than crypto, they're saying. The full potential of tokenization is therefore best harnessed by having central bank money reside in the same venue as their tokenized claims. They continue, this is the key part of this, for this reason, the development of a wholesale CBDC is core to the functioning of a tokenized environment.

Seth Holehouse: 01:20:27

As a tokenized means of settlement, wholesale CBDs CBDCs would serve a similar role as reserves in the current system, but with the added functionalities enabled by tokenization. So that's the that's the key part there is that this whole platform is built on central bank digital currency, which is centralized and fully programmable.

Speaker 3: 01:20:53

I mean, people people possibly don't understand what fully programmable means. Right? I mean, it's a very innocuous word out. It's like, cool. It can be flexible.

Speaker 3: 01:21:04

They can change things 365, 20 make life easier. No, programmable in this context means changing ownership, changing your access to it, changing because it's digital, right? They could say, okay, Seth, you might have a couple hundred thousand here and there, you know, but we're only gonna allow you to take out $50 a day. Well, if it's everything's digital, there's nothing you can do about Right? It's coded in there.

Speaker 3: 01:21:32

You can't get it out. This is why something that's digital is so bad for for freedom. Either you you ultimately lose privacy completely. I don't care what anybody says. You will you will lose privacy, and you're gonna lose your ability to actually own it and control it because you're not basically coding in when you can put it in, when you can take it out.

Speaker 3: 01:21:54

Right? Somebody else is. They could change it on a whim. I mean, is this is pretty scary. Just like they can make it really easy to pay taxes, right?

Speaker 3: 01:22:04

It's like, okay, you don't even fill out a tax return anymore. If everything's completely visible, everything's completely transparent, they know how much money came in an income, They know what you sent out. You don't even have to fill out tax returns. They'll just take whatever they want. Right?

Speaker 3: 01:22:16

They're gonna push this as being really, really easy, simple, safe. It's gonna fight crime. It's gonna fight laundering, all this stuff, but it's not what they want. They don't want that stuff. They want complete control over you, and that's the goal.

Speaker 3: 01:22:35

That is absolutely the goal of this. There's no other way around it when you read the actual source document that you can actually come to another conclusion that this is all about control.

Seth Holehouse: 01:22:46

Well, I mean, when everyone knows by now, the saying of you you will own nothing and be happy. Well, like, this actually makes sense of that. Because I was I saw that and I think, okay, what's that mean? You will own nothing and be happy. Does it mean that we're all living in these little cubes and smart city like something out of Fifth Element where, you know, everything is controlled and maybe that's the long, long term goal.

Seth Holehouse: 01:23:10

But what it could actually mean is that I could maybe live the exact same life I have right now. I've got a house, I've got a truck, I've got a minivan, I've got, you know, this these various assets that I have. And I right now I feel like at least I own them though I'm paying property tax on my land. If I don't pay that property tax, the government seizes it. So that's a whole different discussion.

Seth Holehouse: 01:23:32

Do I really own my land? But the key with this is that you will own nothing. It's like, if my house is basically granted to me via a token that's programmable, that's owned by that's really fundamentally owned by a central bank authority, a centralized one world authority, that what that means is though I'm staying here in this house or though I'm driving that car, you mentioned it being programmable, meaning it can change, it can change ownership, the rules surrounding it can be changed. They might say for instance, that you can only have a car if your carbon footprint is less than x. If they're tracking all this stuff, or you can only, have access to the stock account, your stock account if your social credit score is above a 700, right?

Seth Holehouse: 01:24:26

So that's exactly what this is. I mean, this is like this is in the game for them in terms of their control system. And so, I guess, you know, there's there's a lot of things, a lot of questions that arise out of this. I'm thinking about how this ties into bricks and, you know, that's a whole just massive discussion to unpack with this. But obviously, I know that a lot of our discussions end up discussing precious metals, gold and silver because that's I mean, it's the same way that I discuss food a lot.

Seth Holehouse: 01:24:57

Say, hey, folks, make sure you got your food. But like, you know, right here, this is an ounce of silver. Okay. And, you know, even right now, actually I just got done with a contractor. And he said, hey, can I pay you in some silver?

Seth Holehouse: 01:25:09

He goes, yeah, that'd be great. So I gave him two tubes of silver, you know, the little one ounce rounds and that covered all this work on my house. So that's the thing like with this is that because this is a global asset, right? It's not like it's a US dollar tied to the US dollar, it's demand and everything. Like how do you think gold and silver would play into this?

Seth Holehouse: 01:25:33

Because in my thinking, it's like, they've got to have some plan to make sure we can't use this to bypass their system. Or, or is it something that that's like outside of their control because it's outside of their digital sphere where they're building all their control mechanisms? I mean, how do you make sense of that?

Speaker 3: 01:25:52

I I would say the latter is probably true. It's outside of their sphere. Now if you were to use it as currency at a grocery store, right, maybe they would come up with something like that, but you're not going to. You're gonna be using it for barter or things of that nature. Right?

Speaker 3: 01:26:05

So it's basically out of their control and purview. But But why would you want it? Well, because if nothing else is available, nothing else that you would want. For example, I think they're gonna make it very difficult to not take central bank digital currency. I think they're gonna make it really difficult.

Speaker 3: 01:26:24

For example, say you're retired and you get your Social Security, that's $2,700 a month. It's like, well, how is it gonna come? Probably from the FedNow app because it's coming from the government. This is their government banking thing. It's like, hey, Seth, do you want your $2,700 a month Social Security, you better get on with the Fed Now app.

Speaker 3: 01:26:43

There is no other way to get it. Right? Or they could force the issue at gas pumps. It's like, well, unless you put in your FedNow app, you're not gonna get gas. We don't take any other forms of payment.

Speaker 3: 01:26:56

Right? They're gonna well, then what are you gonna do? Not drive? Well, if you're not gonna live in a house, you live in a tent under a bridge somewhere, right, if you can't make mortgage payments because it's not in their version of currency that they want, they won't take anything else. So this is where I I believe I think there's going to be alternative currency systems that rise up, like, almost on day one.

Speaker 3: 01:27:21

Like where there's a will, there's a way. Somebody will see it because somebody's gonna realize, well, good grief, like every Christian evangelical Catholic on the planet, right? It's like they wanna take this system because they think it's the mark of the beast, which it probably is, right? So therefore, you start living off the grid. Right?

Speaker 3: 01:27:38

So so there's there's alternative systems that will establish themselves overnight. Now that was kind of a a rogue zombie apocalypse kind of a scenario. Right? But but what's more mainstream? Simple.

Speaker 3: 01:27:52

States like Texas and and Alaska saying we want a state chartered central bank that's backed by gold. It's like, sweet. So state chartered means you're not FDIC. It means you're not federally insured. You're not a federal bank.

Speaker 3: 01:28:06

Right? So so you get out of all of that nonsense with the Fed now. State chartered bank, they have their own money. They have their own possible backing of the currency. They could back their currency with gold.

Speaker 3: 01:28:17

Right? So so I think there's gonna be alternative systems that rise up in addition to other countries now potentially leaving the CBDC BRICS system. Right? You know, news news from July 3 that the Indian foreign affairs minister was saying, I don't know about the CBD same thing with the BRICS nations. Right?

Speaker 3: 01:28:42

It's like our currency, we have the strongest GDP in all the BRICS nations, and our economy is is kinda booming a little bit. We don't don't wanna drag it down with some kind of European, you know, euro currency, central bank digital currency. So what do they do? Well, they pull out of the system. So about two days ago, it was noted on, oh, India.

Speaker 3: 01:29:05

There was a news site on on Twitter from from India. So, basically, they decided along with that statement that they made on July 3 that India was not going to support or recognize the BRICS Central Bank digital currency. They're not even gonna recognize it, which means they're not gonna be a part of it. So so it's not like they were kicked out of BRICS. No.

Speaker 3: 01:29:29

They're still in BRICS. They're just not gonna use the currency, which means they'll probably be kicked out of BRICS at some point. Right? So so you you look at those kind of things that are happening, whether it's a country like India or whether it's oh, boy. It was either Hong Kong or Singapore that told China, it's like, we're not gonna accept any kind of Chinese central bank digital currency or bricks currency for anything.

Speaker 3: 01:29:50

Right? So you've got countries opposing the system. You've got states rising up opposing the system. You've got states that say gold is legal tender, like Arkansas, Wyoming, Utah, Oklahoma, all of them say gold is legal tender. So here's where we don't have to settle, Seth.

Speaker 3: 01:30:12

We don't have to settle for this fear that's consuming most people thinking this is the mark of the beast. What am I going to do? It's like, no, you can allocate outside of that. Maybe move your money to a bank that's not FDIC insured, that's more of a state chartered bank. There's not a lot of options right now, but you know what?

Speaker 3: 01:30:32

There will be. Where there's a will, there's a way. I think there is going to be. So I would move that then. In the meantime, I would allocate into strength, allocate into safety.

Speaker 3: 01:30:42

We never know when these things are going to start happening, to put a smile on your face and get out of harm's way. So you've got

Todd Callender: 01:30:50

all of that.

Seth Holehouse: 01:30:51

So one question I have Kirk is, as I'm thinking through this. Once right now, let's just say I said Kirk, I want 100 ounces of silver, you could say okay Seth, it's going to cost you, you know, dollars 3,000 or whatever. And I say, Okay, I will bank wire or I'll mail you a check and you get that you deposit, you sit, you ship it to me. Now, once this system rolls out, especially once a CBDC system rolls out, we already know they're talking about limiting purchasing of ammunition. They're talking about it openly.

Seth Holehouse: 01:31:24

Do you think that because they see this as a threat to their system because it is, that once those assets are converted to CBDC, do you think they will ban the purchase of precious metals? Like once it's kind of like if you don't get out before that system gets put into place, that you may have lost your window to move your assets into something like precious metals?

Speaker 3: 01:31:48

I actually do. I mean, this is this is part of their goal. It's part of their agenda to get everybody into their programmable money. Anything that stands in their way, they're gonna demonize. We're already and the reason I said it is because we're already starting to see it.

Speaker 3: 01:32:04

Right? Where there's they're demonizing decentralized cryptocurrency like Bitcoin and and Dogecoin and things like that. Why? Because it is an attack against what they're doing. But that's easy to actually say, okay.

Speaker 3: 01:32:18

Look at all these greedy companies, right, taking advantage of everybody. That's their angle. But and so or you could you could have, oh, that's that's just one extreme. But what about getting your Social Security payments? Right?

Speaker 3: 01:32:34

What about the the thing that it's like, how are they gonna collect all this stuff into a tokenized coin or tokenized token? Right? Your real estate, your other assets. Well, I think they're just gonna start asking. You know, under perjury on a tax return for maybe next year, they say, we'll list out all of your assets.

Speaker 3: 01:32:55

You don't do it now, you're in huge trouble. Right? So so or maybe huge penalties or maybe jail time. Right? I don't think there's gonna be a way to once you're in the system to get money out.

Speaker 3: 01:33:09

Why? Because they control the purse strings. So don't put your ass I don't know how this is going to come out, how it's going to play out. Right? All I know is that where there's a will, there's a way throughout history.

Speaker 3: 01:33:19

There's always something that rises up that can people invest in into safety. Right? But but I don't know what it would be right at this point other than gold or silver because it's tangible. You take delivery of it. You can legitimately use it for a barter.

Speaker 3: 01:33:35

So so the fact that they're gonna probably ask you, I would say on a tax return, what's what else do you have? Other than your money here that you're claiming, what what real estate do you have? What other investments do you have? They're just gonna have to be intrusive on it because a lot of the stuff is dealer non reportable, private transactions. They don't know that you have it or not.

Speaker 3: 01:33:58

So they're relying on most of the population to actually tell them.

Seth Holehouse: 01:34:04

Well, one funny point is I was talking to a, I was in a different state. I won't go into any details. And it's a state that has very different gun laws than Ohio. And I was talking to a local police officer. And just saying I was I'm just curious.

Seth Holehouse: 01:34:20

I was like, gun registration and whatnot. And in this particular state, you know, like your typical AR 15 is not allowed. And so I asked him, I said like what do what do people do here? Are they complying? And he he said look, he goes, 90 of the AR fifteens in this state were never registered.

Seth Holehouse: 01:34:42

And it's the same thing happened with the ATF. They made a ruling about pistol braces, right? You can't have a gun with a full roll pistol brace. I think only 10% of the pistol brace owners actually registered their their guns with the ATF. So think that shows you like that's an indicator, you're talking about how, you know, where there's a will there's a way this parallel system is that yeah, I think that like, are the people with with a bucket full of this stuff buried in their backyard gonna say, you know what?

Seth Holehouse: 01:35:09

Yes, you know, Joe Biden, here's a map of where it's buried, or here's where it's hidden in my house. They're gonna say, there's no way I'm reporting that, you know?

Speaker 3: 01:35:17

Right. Right. I mean, this this is world that we're entering into, right? It's like brave new world. Forget about anything being private, right?

Speaker 3: 01:35:27

Unless you actually have a private asset. So what's not going to be private? Anything that you claim, right? All your digital assets, your paper assets, those are, you know, it's not digital, right? If you have something that's digital, people are going to know about it.

Speaker 3: 01:35:43

If you have something that's not, they won't. This is why I love tangible assets like gold, like silver, that you can put in your pocket, that you can walk around, trade back and forth. You just conducted commerce. You just traded that for something that you wanted from somebody that something that they had, and you didn't have to engage in the central bank digital currency system, right? This is one way out.

Speaker 3: 01:36:08

The the other way out is structure change, like the states moving out of the FDIC, out of a federally insured system. And, you know, just barter, gold and silver for barter. It's like, I don't know what else you could do at this point because you need something that has personal ownership. Right? Something that you have on you or that you store that you can get right away.

Speaker 3: 01:36:34

Right? Because lot of my clients have big monster IRAs that they moved into silver. You can't take delivery of that until you cash out, until you take a distribution. In the meantime, it's safe. When push comes to shove, things start changing.

Speaker 3: 01:36:48

It's like, hey, take your stuff at home, right? But until then, I would hold it safely because the world's changing quick. I mean, literally right underneath our nose, it's happening. Things that we talked about three weeks, a month ago, seems like a distant memory at this point with everything that's happened since then. So I would encourage everybody before these things start to come into motion, once they're here, I think it's too late, you you reallocate into safety.

Speaker 3: 01:37:16

You reallocate out of your paper, out of your stocks, bonds, your mutual funds, and go into physical silver. It's the smartest thing to do given the world that we're living in right now because it's the last of the private transactions.

Seth Holehouse: 01:37:29

Exactly. And so if folks want to do that with you and your company, so I've got the website up here. So it's just goldwithseth.com. That's the website there. Goldwithseth.com.

Seth Holehouse: 01:37:41

And then when you scroll down, there is a form they can fill out. Also, your phone number [phone]. Those are going to be in the description as well. And as I've said before, look like, like honestly, Kirk, you're the reason I do this full time, that my wife can do this full time. We've got people helping out with us.

Seth Holehouse: 01:38:01

I'm an independent journalist. I'm not, you know, you go collect some big paycheck from Fox News, nor am I getting ad, know, ad revenue from YouTube. So this is what allows me to do this. And so I just I thank you for what you're doing. I actually I really do think that in the future, lot of people will look back and be like, gosh, I'm so glad I didn't miss that window.

Seth Holehouse: 01:38:24

Because I think that as much as it feels like we always have time, it's like you always have time to buy toilet paper until you go to Costco, and there's 500 people waiting outside, and they're limiting you to one roll apiece. Do you know what mean? It's like, those things happen. You know, it's like I'd rather be six months early than one day late on something like that.

Speaker 3: 01:38:45

100%, yes. And so we just simply have to, the world is different. If you don't change with a changing world, then you're going to sync with the ship, right? So it's very, very, very, very important. I've never been a sense of urgency kind of a guy, never have until now.

Speaker 3: 01:39:06

This is the most egregious attack on our freedoms financially that I've ever seen. It's not that I'm a spring chicken. I mean, I'm not old, I'm not young. I'm like my fifties, I've seen thirty years of growth. I'm still a young guy.

Speaker 3: 01:39:19

But thirty years in this business, I've seen a lot. I've seen two thousand, I've seen Y2K, I've seen the towers, I've seen two thousand and nine, right? It's like, boy, there's a lot to have seen and a lot to have learned in all of that. What did I realize? Companies can go out of business overnight.

Speaker 3: 01:39:39

If you don't want somebody to know about something, well, then don't put it online. Ultimately, that's what digital money is. So you have to always be private. Privacy comes through tangible assets you take delivery of. We're not talking about just significant growth right now, Seth, which is what we are seeing in silver.

Speaker 3: 01:39:59

I mean, in the last well, let's see. Wednesday and Thursday last week, silver was up about a buck 80 in two days. I mean, already up about I mean, that's incredible, right? So our goal then is to be wise stewards, take advantage of these moves so they don't take advantage of us. That is how you'll grow.

Speaker 3: 01:40:22

That is how you'll thrive moving forward.

Seth Holehouse: 01:40:25

Exactly. Well, thanks, Kirk, and I'll I'll see you again next week.

Speaker 3: 01:40:29

Sounds good, brother. You have a good one. Thank you.