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Uh, we have somebody who's liked some incredible, [00:01:00] amazing, amazing. Yeah. We have the pleasure of having a Colonel Chris Hadfield on the podcast. Welcome Colonel. Hey, glad to be joining you too. Hey, so people don't know you were one of the first Canadian commanders of the international space station. Uh, you have been referred to as the most famous astronauts since Neil Armstrong, hashtag winning, uh, your heavily decorated astronaut engineer and pilot, uh, and your many awards include, uh, the order of Canada and NASA exceptional service metal.
Uh, you've written. I've many best-selling books, a claim musician, which I'm curious to know about and have, uh, uh, has hosted internationally acclaimed television series, including national geographics. One strange rock. So we are so stoked to have you on the show. Welcome to start with a win. Thank you very much.
Good to be with your bills. What's this set musician thing going? I I'm a fan of musicians. I like music. So you can see my background. I have a couple of guitars. You have to look at my [00:02:00] background. I've got a guitarist. I've been a musician my whole life. I played with a lot of different bands. Uh, I did a David Bowie space oddity that hundreds of millions of people.
And, uh, but we really liked, he call it the most poignant version of the song ever done. And, and, uh, so I tour with Bowie's band, saw them with a lot of other bands and yeah, it's a tough way to make a living, but it was a great way to end. That is so awesome. And you did that cover of Bowie song from space, right?
Yeah. There's a guitar up on the space station, a little Canadian parlor guitar, uh, made by Larry V made up in Vancouver. I didn't put it up there. Let's put it up there because just like mark, we recognize music's important for, you know, to be a healthy human being. And, um, so that guitar has been up there for 21 years and there's almost always some musician that plays guitar and, and I've, I've fronted bands for decades.
So I played it every day. I wrote and recorded a [00:03:00] whole album of music, what I was supposed to be asleep up on the space station and, and, uh, and yeah, and I, I did a cover of, of space oddity as well and made it. Uh, a video to go with it. So, yeah. And load I've seen that all around the world everywhere I go.
So yeah, kind of a fun thing to be. So we encourage everybody to go to YouTube and check out Chris's video. It's really good. I mean, I'm, I was listening to it going, wow. This guy has got some shops he can sing. So, uh, I mean, it was, I'm one of the, I'm one of the viewers on it. So, uh, just, just, uh, I mean just a great video, uh, and a really cool.
Concept to do that from space. So I want to dig into this astronaut thing because you're kind of one of those mystery people to all of us in society. We're like, whoa, this guy's an astronaut. Uh, how do you, how did you decide to become an astronaut? I mean, where did this whole thing start? [00:04:00] I was a kid, uh, I liked S you know, star Trek and science fiction books and 2001, you know, the movie space.
Or a space Odyssey. And, um, and, and that was all fantasy. But then at the same time, for the very first time in history, people were actually flying in space, uh, Soviets and Americans. And then when I was nine years old, Neil and buzz walked on the moon and I just thought, man, I'm going to grow up to be something, what am I grew up to be that if that's a choice, that's the coolest thing ever.
It's it's like my fantasy. It's like, Star Trek science fiction, but it's real. You can actually do that. And so I consciously decided to turn myself into an astronaut on July 20th, 1969, the day that, uh, the first two people walked on the moon and then I just worked on it ever since well, so, and you have a children's book out that talks about Chris, you, I'm assuming in this, watching on television.[00:05:00]
Those guys walking on the moon is that, is that, that, that pivotal moment, yeah. That, that children's book has done. Great. And I've wrote it. It's called the darkest dark. I wrote it because it's really important in life to know the difference between fear and danger. We tend to sort of treat them like the same.
But they're not a synonym, you know, Deere and fear and danger for things. Um, and you know, things aren't fearful just sometimes people are. And so I wrote that book, the darkest dark, because it's really important when you're a kid to learn that it's normal to be afraid. But what you do with your fear is really good.
So that's why I wrote, and I thought I would read it, you know, semi-autobiographical because at the end of it almost as a review, Um, the kid is presented with the fact that this is a real person, this isn't, you know, Vinky goes to the moon. This is a real person. This is a thing a real person can do. [00:06:00] And, uh, and the last part of the book has sort of ideas as the child gets a little bit older, so they can think just beyond the pictures and the words it's.
I mean, it, it was really interesting to go through that book while preparing for this interview. And, uh, it was fast. Our, our podcast is a lot about creating success in your life and the things that you can do to, um, you know, have a systems, tools, and processes that you can use to create that alignment and get in the direction that you want to go.
So what were some of the habits that you developed in order to make this dream come true? I, I think number one is you got, have dreams. You gotta have, uh, something you're trying to accomplish. If you don't know what your goal is. Then, how do you decide what to do next? Like, to me, that's a fundamental question.
And so I think it's really critical to do yourself the favor of having a few sort of, [00:07:00] right on the edge of crazy, uh, dreams and goals that you want to accomplish in your life. And I don't mean just a bucket list, so you can brag to other people, but stuff you actually value that, um, that is. I fulfilled and worth something and happy.
And so that's step one and have several of those. And don't just stick with the same two for your whole life, but, you know, update them and think about it. You know, you learn stuff through your life. And then the second thing is, uh, once you've got some sort of goals in life, then do a little personal inventory and recognize what you don't have yet.
What you can't do. In order to get closer to doing those things. And then the third is start changing who you are, um, and you, and you know, it can be pretty daunting if you try and change your whole self overnight. But if you are recognizing that, Hey, someday, I want to walk on the moon then. Okay. But I'm nine.
I don't know anything. Um, but what [00:08:00] can I do this weekend or tonight, or this. To maybe give myself some skill that will inch me forward towards walking on limit. Maybe I'll read a book about the history of the moon or rockets or, or, you know, uh, or maybe sign up for swimming lessons or scuba lessons because astronauts have to know how to scuba dive and train underwater.
And then, you know, I joined the air cadets, like the civil air patrol in the states. So I can get my pilots license because astronauts fly in space and none of those steps. But each one of them moved my life a little closer to what I fantasized about. And that is a wonderful, joyful thing. If every single day you are shifting your life a little bit away from wherever you were and towards the stuff that you really value.
And, and I I've done that every day of my life, uh, since then. And I, I, I find it's just a good modus operandi for [00:09:00] how to go through this life. You get one. You know, don't waste it, that's it? I mean, you're not sitting on the couch, watching it, pass you by that's for sure. So, well, at the start of the pandemic, I was like, well, uh, you know, this is going to take awhile and we're going to be locked up.
What haven't I done? That might be fun. You know, maybe I could write another book that I'll write a fiction book. I'm going to write an international bestseller fiction book. Yeah. Right. You know, I'm going to walk on the moon crazy, but without giving yourself some sort of audacious goals, Uh, then you're just going to sorta make, repeat the same motions and shuffle through your own life.
Maybe the other piece of that that's really important to them is don't judge yourself on how much you got done today, because otherwise you'll, you'll just be kicking yourself, you know, and disappointed with yourself, celebrate the little changes that you've made on a daily basis. And, you know, you're, you're probably not going to be Stephen King or something or, or whatever it is you're dreaming of.
You [00:10:00] know, I'm not the best musician in the world. I'm not the worst musician in the world. I'm just every song I learned. I was practicing guitar a little bit this morning, everything like that just gives me joy and moves me a little closer to the things that I value and I celebrate them each of them as they come along so that it kind of makes everyday more fun.
These are some incredibly important points and I want to get to the, uh, the fiction book here in. In the near future because, um, I'm pretty enthralled with that. Uh, but it, I want to continue unpacking this becoming an astronaut thing. Um, and I hope everybody's listening very closely to how Chris is laying this out because there's so much gold in this.
And you know, probably everybody on this show or maybe not, I don't know, isn't going to end up becoming an astronaut, but they have an opportunity to make something of themselves that they want to be. And, um, and that's really the foundation and the framework that you're building here. It's, it's really cool.
But I want to talk about challenges [00:11:00] because, um, you know, you, you mentioned the difference between fear and danger before and astronauts face many high-risk situations through your career. Obviously. I mean, there are a lot of people have died doing that, not just on the rocket launches or landings, but in the, in the preparation to become an astronaut, the scuba dive.
The flying airplanes and jets and things like that. Um, you know, and there's no guarantee of success. How do you stay motivated when you continue to come across these sometimes appearing to be insurmountable challenges to move yourself forward? Yeah, it's really easy to get way too up or way too down with your own life.
You can whip sell yourself into this, this, uh, nervous frenzy. Um, and, and I try and remind myself on a regular basis that nothing is ever as good or as bad as it first looks. No. And so have a little bit of, of pause as you, as [00:12:00] you come into new things. And, uh, some things are just going to seem to be super easy and some things are going to seem to be insurmountable.
And they're probably not going to turn out to be either of those things, really bad stuff is going to happen. Things go wrong that's life. You know, I don't even know why we call it going wrong. Right. It's just going that's life. But a lot of stuff's also going to go, right. And so have, uh, the long-term dreams in mind, uh, you gotta make your daily bread and you got to find some way to make a living.
Hopefully, you know, if you have really looked at the stuff that you value, you can also find a way to make a living that is somewhere with these. That, that field or those ideas that, that you really think are important or interesting, or, you know, fundamentally get your heart going. You know, if you're really interested in, I don't know, mountain climbing, there's a whole, you know, you could be, uh, working for one of the outdoor [00:13:00] equipment companies, or you could be a geologist or you could be, you know, a person who studies, uh, gems or volcanoes, or you could work for the forestry or.
You know, th there's all sorts of work that is in the area that you're interested in. And so, uh, you got to make your daily bread, but if at all possible, don't just let life randomly choose for you. What you're going to do, you know, be, be, be active in, in choosing your own life. And then if there was one distinguishing characteristic, Adam of an astronaut, um, and you know, I was an astronaut for 21 years.
You know, lived in Russia for five years as NASA director over there and work with all the astronauts of the world. Um, I would say the one distinguishing trait that is common to all of the professional astronauts is a perpetual dissatisfaction with their own level of competence are like rest and other [00:14:00] laurels or coasting.
Like, ah, I've got enough done last year. This year. I can just sort of drift, you know, um, because the job will. And it'll kill the people around you. It's relentless. So that adds an urgency to it. But also we're trying to explore and understand the rest of the universe. And we're just little babies taking toddler steps.
So that internal purpose of recognizing that, Hey, I'm good at some things, but I hardly know how to do most things and always trying to better yourself to get more competent and understand things better to give herself more. That to me, that's a great way to go through life because cause it's like you're building a higher and higher platform that you're standing on as time goes by.
And when you get on a higher platform, you can see further, you know, you, you got more, more, uh, perspective on everything else. And so I, I sure didn't have any of that clear in my mind when I was at nine-year-old kid, but I sort of followed that. [00:15:00] And, uh, and I, I realized I'm gonna have to go to various universities cause flying spaceships is technically really complicated.
I also thought I probably won't be an astronaut, so I better have some backup plans. So I joined the air force, um, and serve my country, but also, um, serve at the U S air force in the U S Navy, even though I'm Canadian. Um, and you know, I was a fighter pilot in the cold war, a combat fighter, pilot intercepting, Soviet bombers in north American areas.
Um, but, and then I went to test pilot school and all those things were, were really interesting and challenging. Um, but they were also sort of building my set so that someday, if the space agency said I could stick and wait to get picked, wow. A perpetual dissatisfaction with their level of competence. I, I wrote that down.
Um, Your, your hunger for growth is amazing. And, uh, very [00:16:00] admirable. So many people get to a point in coast in life. And obviously that's not where you're satisfied. Um, and I think that's where a lot of our listeners are in pursuit of is never be satisfied with what you've done yesterday. You know, go after something new tomorrow.
So, um, I want to ask you about the book now, uh, the fiction book and I, I know you're a, you're involved in, in your next work as well, but, um, you wrote a science fiction, thriller fiction book called the Apollo murder. Where, um, you know, it takes place. What is it? Uh, late sixties, early seventies, um, in the, uh, was it the U S and the Russian space programs or something like that, give us a fly over of that.
And it sounds like a really interesting thing, uh, that you unpacked and I mean, is it all untrue or did you like integrate fact with fiction or how does come apart? Sure. The Apollo murders it primarily, it [00:17:00] said. Um, at the tail end of the Apollo program. Um, and, and I have Apollo 18, which was a real space mission, but, uh, which we built the hardware for and had crews selected for, but Nixon canceled for various political reasons.
Um, but I had it go, but I had it partially financed by the military, sort of like the space shuttle was really heavily financed by the middle. And, um, and the it's really alternative history fiction. And I would guess 95% of the book is real things that happen over half. The characters are real people, so that made it really fun to write.
But my character is Apollo 18 crew, uh, launching out of Florida. And they've got at the time there was a secret Soviet space station for real called Alma's, which is Russian for nine. And it was spying on the world, had a huge telescope inside it. Um, a spy telescope operated by cosmos. [00:18:00] So Apollo 18 goes by the Alma space station and some bad things happen.
And then on the way to the moon, other bad things happen and on the surface of the moon, some really bad things happen. And then the whole story comes ripping back to earth and hits its big climax splashed down in the Pacific, just north of Hawaii. And yeah, the book, it it's an international bestseller and it's already.
13 languages. I think just recently, uh, we're signed with a production house to bring it to the screen as well. So pretty big rollicking project and a lot of fun to be, to be involved in. That's great. I think a lot of people on this program look forward to getting their hands on that story and it's really cool.
It's and it's. As a, you know, a child of the seventies, I I'm interested in really pursuing that. So, um, Chris, I have a question for you though, that I ask everybody that's on the show and looking for an astronaut response here, somebody who's, who's done so much in life. Like you have, how do you [00:19:00] start your day with a win?
Uh, I start every day with a plan a and a list of stuff I want to get done. And, uh, I get out of bed, uh, with. You know, at a certain time of day and I try and have a pattern that gets me ready for the day, you know? Um, I don't just take a shower, but I always, before I ever take a shower, I do 20 pushups because it's like free exercise.
Just don't allow yourself to take a shower unless you've done 20 push-ups and, um, and spend a little time in front of the mirror and just, you know, weigh yourself, have a look in the mirror and go, yeah, I'm doing all right. Or, you know, be forgiving, but just be realistic about that. You know, do I need to change my diet?
Do I need to do stuff? Just, you know, do a little assessment, get yourself cleaned up and then do you got some obligatory stuff? Just like in figure skating and to get some freestyle for the day and balance the two out, how are you going to have some funds today? Um, [00:20:00] you know, who you're going to interact with how's today going to go.
Um, and then at the end of the day, uh, you will have blown a lot of stuff. Now, get that done. That didn't go, right. So, uh, you know, the. The, uh, the good intentions of the day sacrificed on the altar of reality, but at the end of the day, be forgiving and go, Hey, this, this went great today. I learned this, this didn't go so good.
And what do I have? And before I go to bed, I review, Hey, this is what I'm thinking of doing tomorrow. And, and, and, and then I just repeat, and, uh, and I, maybe the most important thing for starting your day with a win. Drop your personal bar of victory as low as you possibly can. Like if you get up and there's hot water and there's a bar of soap and a shampoo that smells sorta nice.
And you've got like, if you're a guy, you got a new razor, you know, new blade in your razor. And, and you're like, and then you come and there's there's food. You didn't have to go pick it. Or, you know, [00:21:00] there's food that, that you just have to sort of put together and eat. And, you know, by seven 30 in the morning, you can get.
Victory today's, you know, and it's totally up to you, whether today's a win or a loss. So I try and make sure that I am ready to feel successful at the lowest possible. Nobody else cares, but you nobody. So, so don't let other people determine that, determine it for yourself, you know? And, and, uh, and so I, I that's, that's how I feel successful every single morning.
And, uh, so far from. Awesome. Colonel Chris Hadfield, the first Canadian commander of the international space, a space station, an amazing adventure, a great guy, and a winner given us his plan for the day. Chris, thank you so much for being on, start with a win. Hey, thanks and respect to you, Adam. Uh, nice, nice to talk with you.
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Wow, that was. Good stuff in there, Chris, thank you so much for sharing that night. Nice to chat with you. Thanks for all the questions and talking about the new book. The next book is keeping me super mentally busy right now, which is fun. How do you go from children's book to like murder mystery? Well, I first spoke with the booklet, how to conduct life.
Okay. Astronaut's guide to life on earth and it's, it was, you know, international bestseller, New York times bestseller and. And then my second one was a [00:23:00] book of imagery, you know? Cause what do you do with all those photographs of earth? And then my third was a children's book and that was fourth. I decided to write fiction.
Um, I, uh, I was, you know, Ray Bradbury. He wrote in a few other science fiction books. The Bradbury family came to me several years ago, um, and said, Hey, we'd like, we're going to, re-release the book, the Martian Chronicles. We'd like you to write a new intro. Um, and they'd heard about me through all the stuff I'm doing.
And so I really carefully wrote a fairly extensive intro to the Bradbury, to the Bradbury book, Marshall Chronicles. And on the basis of that, a publisher said, you know what, I'm pretty sure you can write fiction. And so they worked with a publisher in the UK and, um, and then it took about three years of negotiations.
And then about a year of writing to, uh, to create the Apollo murder. And I'm really pleased with it. It's, uh, it's done super well and a great reaction all around the world and it'll be fun to try. Um, I guess [00:24:00] it'll be like a Netflix series or something like that. The early stages of that. So some rose to help.
What, um, you know, you've, you've been into all these different things throughout your life. You know, what got you into music? What got you into writing? Obviously you saw the, you know, the Apollo missions when you were a kid, and so that got you into to space, but what got you into the other things in your life?
Cause it sounds like you, you kind of a multi-disciplined kind of person, you're not just a. You know, get on a treadmill and, you know, go to the air force base everyday kind of guy. But you're into other things. You have passions and hobbies and stuff like that. How do you kind of manage it all? Oh, my mom's a musician, a piano player, classically trained, and she's got one of those voices where an ear where she can just sing harmony and rebel all the time.
So in our house, you know, I was just used to, my dad has no musical ability at all. So my mom and my brothers and sisters, there are five. Are all musicians. And we were all inspired by my mom and then listening to music, you know, Kingston trio, and Peter Paul and Mary, [00:25:00] those beautiful multi voice harmonies.
And, and for me, a really good song is where the melody stays in your ed when this music stops. And when you listen to the words, they mean something to me that that's good music. And, and so, uh, so, so I, I bought a guitar when my brother and I bought a guitar when I was about nine and he was. And then I've been buying guitars and playing and then trying to get better at it my whole life.
And, and so, yeah, I think everybody's a musician. It's just a matter of how much you've practiced natural ability you have. Oh, you know, there's a cave up above the Rhine and Southern. Where, when they were digging, the archeologists were digging. They found a musical instrument from 42,000 years ago, like a vulture or a crane or something.
And those, those Neanderthals, or maybe they were us homosapiens, they drilled holes in it so they could play it like a flute quarter. And what's weird is it's the same diet comics diatonic scale. You know, [00:26:00] don't read me a fossil Latino. So if I go into that cave, Carrie and my sixth stream, I bet you within five minutes.
We'd be making each other laugh, you know, music is so fundamental to humanity and, uh, and so yeah, we're all musicians. It's just a matter of how much of it you put into your own life. Yeah. That's so true. And then with writing, was it one day someone approached, you said you should write a book or, or something that you, you kind of was in you that you're like, yeah, I want to write something or, I mean, cause that seems like another, I mean you're held up right now, right.
In a cabin working on a book. So it's like, what, how, how do you become a. Uh, well, when I was a kid, English and language was my favorite subject in school, but I knew they're not going to hire English majors to fly rock ships. I thought if I'm going to go to university, I got to study something that I don't already know how to do.
Um, so, so I studied engineering and, um, and when I went to four different universities, but I always liked [00:27:00] writing, I always wrote short stories and music and, and, um, But I never really seriously wrote, you know, it was always little stuff, but, um, once you flown in space three times and commanded a spaceship, you've got kind of a richness of experience.
And then you ask yourself, at least you should, what should I do with this experience? Do I just like, keep it to my. Like that's kind of squandering the whole thing. And so that's why I do, you know, I did a BBC series and the national geographic series, you mentioned and write music and write books. And the first book is just, you know, what did I learn in the last 50 years that might be valuable to other people?
And that's what the astronaut's guide to life on earth. It's exactly what the title says. Um, but then it's like, okay, well, there are some other ideas, but how do you really share that? The dirty under some of space flight and the, the stuff that truly happens and how people [00:28:00] imperfect people react all the way through it.
And for that, it's really nice to write fiction because you can really get into a plot and put people under duress and have all those reactions. So it's a real fun challenge to try and write a fiction book, but I just treated it like everything else. I got a goal. Now I have no skills. I need to learn how to do this.
So I'm going to study from the people that are best in the world, you know, Stephen King and James Patterson and John D. McDonald and you know, all these, all these other folks. And, and then I'm going to read the books that I really like again, but I'm going to read them clinically. How did they punctuate, how did they attribute sentences?
How did they make paragraphs? How did they choose how to end each chapter? Like. And then you just need to start writing. And somebody once said, nobody can write 500 bed, short stories. Like if you really want to write, well, you gotta write. Right. And, uh, and so I just started writing. And my first draft of the Apollo murders was, uh, [00:29:00] 195,000 words, which is way too many words, but I needed to learn what I was doing.
And the final version is about 135,000. So we cut 60,000 words out of my book. And, uh, and, but you need to work with an editor and she, she was terrific saying, Hey, this is fascinating, but then we'll just take this out. But, uh, so, so it's just something I learned how to do. And every, like some stuff you learn how to do and you don't like it, but I am enjoying the creative process of writing and trying to make something that didn't use to exist that you can share with other people and being.
That's so awesome. All right. I have one last questions. I got you here. I got one last question about music stuff. Cause obviously I'm a musician. I love music. Um, and in 1978, my dad went to grew ins guitars, which is in Nashville, Tennessee. And he bought a 1908 stall, a guitar. It's this beautiful. Um, Handcrafted is kind of interesting looking, cause you know, back [00:30:00] then it was like a little bit smaller of a body and a wider neck.
Um, and when I was in the studio recording, uh, with a band in Nashville, my dad. And he gave me that guitar. And, uh, and so that's my favorite guitar, you know, I have it hung up and, and, uh, it's got a lot of great memories. Then it's got a lot of great stories because my dad, you know, traveled and played music back in the late seventies.
And, and, uh, and so he's got a lot of history and dings on it and, and just, it seems like it's got a lot of great stories to it. What is your favorite guitar? Um, I have several guitars, of course. Cause as everybody knows, it's a lot easier for them to play a guitar. Um, but uh, I currently traveled at one in the case back there it's a beautiful tailor and it really expensive case cause it always works well.
I was in Moscow and I spent a really long, late vodka and drunk at night with the guy and at the end of the night, for whatever reason, um, uh, or at his and his wife's place, he had this old really beat up 1939 Gretsch. And [00:31:00] it's got, it looks like a violin. You know, it's got that violin shape if a slots instead of the central hole.
And it's got the arch top to it really shallow body. And, but it's when you play it, it's like it's taking all its effort to put the music right out in front of you there. A lot of bass residents, but that's my second favorite. My favorite guitar is the first one I ever bought and it's a Yamaha FG, 180.
It's the one my brother and I went with the money. We'd saved up to the music store and bought by pooling our resources. And I eventually bought my brother share out of that guitar. And it's gone everywhere in the world with me. I climbed a mountain in Northern Norway and dropped it halfway down the mountain case, protected it.
And I've, I've had that all around the world. And, um, you know, when you play a guitar, it sorta like certain smells bring. Uh, life moments to play playing that guitar. It's like the story of my [00:32:00] life, you know? And so when I played that guitar, it's just like, uh, sitting with an old friend and discovering new things, but based on an entire lifetime of stuff that I really treasure.
So Yamaha, re-issued the FTU and 80, a few years ago. And they were like, Like to give me one. Ah, that's so cool. Eighties, which I just treasure. Cause it's a gorgeous instrument, but my favorite one is that scarred tough mountain dropped off. Cool. Oh good guitar. That's awesome. Well, Hey, thanks so much for being with us.
Thanks for sharing a little bit of your life and your stories with us. And, uh, man, I just wish you all the success and continued adventures. So yeah, I hope you get in the same room and play guitar with yours. Play a little music there. I play a little bit, a bit. Same, some harmony I'm sure. Okay. There you go.
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