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Okay, so in our little pre show convo
here, we went down a bit of a rabbit hole.
Anybody remember Jared Cowan?
So this started with people that were on
Robita Island, we listed okay Robita,
Lupal, Muzzin, Murray, Klingberg we'll
see, but then who?
Frankie Corrado.
And then the last one that came up was
Jared Cowan.
So for anyone who doesn't remember he came
over in the
Dion Faneuf to Ottawa trade.
He was a ninth overall pick in 2009 and I
believe he suffered a concussion that Took
him out of the lineup and he didn't ever
play again So he showed up for training
camp with the Avalanche in 1718 played one
preseason game was cut and then he retired
so like the curious mind I am I was like,
I wonder what he's doing now and Southey
Obviously, like, I mean, you know, they
either sell cars or insurance, right?
That's usually it.
So I find searching his name Evolution Raw
Dog Food.
And I'm like, OK, maybe it's just a guy
with the same name.
And so going through this page, I look.
There's a few pictures.
Hard to tell he's got sunglasses and a hat
on.
It's like, and a sun hat and sunglasses
on.
Like, what are you doing?
Just like you don't want to be recognized.
So him and his wife produce raw dog food
themselves.
It says here on their website, meet the
owners.
Both Cassie and Jared are hands on
throughout the process.
Prepare all the raw dog food, source all
the supplements, package all the raw
meals, and deliver it right to your door.
Truly your labor of love.
So A, shout out to these guys.
That's a really cool way to transition out
of an NHL career.
It's got to be a fun thing to just hang
out with all your dogs all day.
I think it says they have four of them.
And B, as Sudhi mentioned before we got on
here, if anyone's in Saskatoon area,
you've got to order this to have former
ninth overall NHL pick Jared Cowan and his
wife.
show up to your door with dog food.
And it also sounds like really good food.
dog food, you can get a selfie and
probably an autograph with that.
Oh, they also make cat food.
They have raw meat patties, freeze-dried
raw, dry food, meaty bones, treats and
chews, puzzles and toys.
They have everything.
So this is just the last thing that you
expect a retired NHL'er to be doing, but
good for Jared Cowan.
Yeah, and in no way are they catching
strays here.
We are totally supportive of this.
This is awesome.
Yeah, this was more of just a shock, if
anything.
Like I had to verify if this is in fact
the same person.
And I mean, come at me if you can prove
otherwise.
But everything I've found, this is them.
They're surprisingly are not a lot of
people with that name.
Also, Malayne McCollock and Nathan Horton
on Roboto Island.
Oh, of course, Nathan Horton, who we
traded away and then traded back for, I
believe, if I'm not mistaken.
the second time he came to Toronto.
Oh my god.
We need to- Oh my god.
time, you're usually banished the RoboDog.
And just so everyone's aware, the whole
conversation started because of these
amazing shirts.
Anybody who can see the video.
10 out of 10.
Joey Ferg on Twitter.
Yeah, the Miami like island vibes with
Robo Island is so nice, like GTA Vice
City.
I was thinking we should make one that's
like, you know, like the names, like
something and something and something and
something, but just like all the names of
people on Robo Island.
See if people can put it together by
looking at the names like, wait a second,
what are these guys all having?
Oh, no.
What does Robo think about this?
He's like a huge feather in his cap,
right?
That's something that I guess is never
talked about is like, why don't they ever
bring Stefan Robita on and ask him about
how he feels about being like the namesake
for...
for it.
Like he had a pretty good career,
whatever.
But like this is what he's known for now,
especially in like in Leafs Nation.
Oh, there's young Lee fans that have no
idea who he is or was.
Or just know that that's the name of the
island.
Oh, man.
So I guess assignment America, as they
used to say on AFV, find any retired NHL
who has an interesting career now,
because, you know, not everybody makes
millions over the course of their NHL time
and can comfortably retire.
So see if you can find anybody who's doing
something different now.
Because, yeah, like every week we dig up.
Oh, where are they now people that you
never thought about?
Like you didn't question where they went,
but we're going to tell you.
New segment.
We've got to think of a name for it.
We should almost cut this so no one steals
it.
Now we're going to just start it will be
the first one.
So everybody will just everybody will know
that we started it because that's
definitely how that's worked before.
Speaking of shirts, though, we have a
bunch of new designs.
I know I've been talking about this for a
while, but I finally spent a couple hours
yesterday leading up to and during the
game.
Oops, I was working on design.
So there's a couple of new shirts hit in
the store.
Some things have been talked about for a
while.
Some inside jokes of this show, if you're
if you're a fan.
And some just plain old Leafs late night
fun retro style neon merch.
So yeah, cool stuff.
And then this show, if you have any ideas
for things or if you want anything dropped
in there, shoot me a message and I can see
what I can put together.
Cause shout out to Mikey, Mikey D of.
Oh my gosh.
I'm sorry.
I'm blanking on a show right now.
I feel so bad.
Somebody help me.
I know.
I need to like cut this and shout them out
properly.
Fucking blo- Shout out to Mikey DFBleafers
pod.
There you go.
for shooting me a couple messages.
I asked him for some input and he helped
come up with a couple of designs you'll
see shortly.
So.
love you and we will properly plug you at
the end of this pod, I promise.
Fuck me.
All right.
So we'll call it the duality of fan.
We went from like the weirdest, shittiest
start to a game to the strangest comeback
to the biggest blowout of the season into
back to back games.
And it showed every side of Leafs Nation.
So let's talk about that.
Come on.
Intro us.
I'm trying.
First, Mikey D in our intro.
Get it together, Johnny Ross.
FIRED!
You're never going to host again.
Okay, so I am not going to beat around the
bush about this.
I turned off the Columbus game after the
second period.
I know a lot of people also did the same
and there was a bit of a war back and
forth because obviously the game ended
very differently than the second period
ended.
So let's
not sugarcoat that.
You, I'm fucking done with this.
I'm prepared to talk about it at least, to
air it out.
So what is it?
a Senator's Podcast at that point.
Oh, God, I might as well.
But at the same time, Columbus is known
for blowing leads this year.
They have the most or in the top for first
period goals or for not first period, but
scoring first, I think they said they're
one of the top teams for scoring first,
but they're in the bottom of the league
for standing.
So obviously they're horrible at holding
onto a lead, but blowing a lead is one
thing, five nothing to a tie is.
That's insane.
Like, I mean, we saw the Leafs score four
in a period and that was the most all year
and now five.
So let's talk about what it means to be
fed up with the team and sticking through
and, you know, really what that game
tested everybody for.
So go for it, Sadi.
I think we're coming from different angles
here.
I wasn't super frustrated with them in
that game.
They haven't lost in regulation in a long
time.
I figured they were due.
And the fact that they came back in that
game was a huge testament to how they've
been playing as a team game.
So I took that as a big win, not a loss.
Yeah, and look, I turned it off, obviously
not no.
Like I turned it off after the result of
the first 40 minutes, right?
Like, I had it playing in my office, and I
could have gone back and I checked back
that it was five, three, and I was like,
what the fuck's going on here, but I
didn't watch the period.
So I guess where I was coming from is that
time is money.
Money is money.
I mean, there are people that paid to go
to the game.
It's been said on other shows.
Like it's most people get to go to one
game in their life, maybe like three tops.
Like if you're, you know, really lucky,
you go to 10.
If you're working more.
But like the point is, it's not easy to go
to Leaf games and people are there for an
entertaining experience.
And
The team did not deliver a product worth
watching for an entire 40 minutes.
Look, I get it.
They had the dad's trip.
Ty definitely took them out.
Like, come on.
You don't think these guys had a fun night
in New York before they came home after
that, that back to back like.
Of course they fucking did, but to say
they didn't have like an experience in
that game, like the first 40 minutes,
sure, but they were never louder as they
were in that last 20 minutes.
That was the experience.
Yeah, it's...
I've heard that arena in a long time.
100%
and I'm glad that it was loud.
his 60th goal.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
I'm glad it was loud.
Obviously, it's an insane thing to happen.
But like there were people leaving and I
guess I'm just trying to say that I don't
blame people for leaving or turning it off
at that point because of the expectation
of the product that was delivered.
Like this is not a team that you expect to
just show up asleep against one of the
worst teams in the league, allow five
goals against and basically just phone it.
Like what?
What are you?
like this is at least two hours of your
time at that point, like two periods.
I mean,
So the entire time that Matthews has been
there, they have historically shown up
late to every game versus a bottom feeder
team.
There's okay showing up late and.
Okay but that first goal you've got Domi
passing it right to Kent Johnson who
centers it to wide open line in front of
the net who buries it one nothing.
I'm like that's not a good start but look
shit happens.
Then the second goal where you have Riley
just la de da throws it along the boards
like it from then on it was okay.
Nobody is here.
There's a difference between like a couple
guys having an off night and the whole
team just.
really not trying.
Like I get it's shitty Columbus and
they're not the best and yada yada, but
you gotta try.
Like, how many games are we into, like,
double digits that they have not lost in
regulation?
So even if they did shit the bed in this
game, whatever, it's a bad game, let's
chalk it up to that.
But they came back in the third and
showed, like, what this team is actually
made of.
I thought it was a huge character win for-
like, not- they didn't win the game, but
it was like a huge character moment for
this team.
I don't- I don't get the shitting on it.
I'm glad that it happened.
I'm glad that they came back.
It does show a lot of growth in the team
that they were able to turn it on.
I'm just saying that I am defending people
that were like after 40 minutes of
gameplay of that they went, I don't need
to watch another 20 tonight.
I have other shit that I can do.
There's dishes, there's laundry, there's
like, you know,
There's life and it's like I said, it's an
hour ish of your time, if not more that
you're committing to it like you got to
spend your time wisely and if the
entertainment isn't there, I don't blame
people for not sticking it through.
Like if you paid to sit in the game and
you left that's kind of crazy like I don't
see the point in spending the money to go
if you're going to leave after 40 minutes,
but like if you're at home.
i get sure that's fair meaner
I've left one sporting event early my
entire life, and it was a
Marlies-Hershey's-Bears playoff game that
the Marlies were already down.
I think it was 4-0 and allowed two
short-handed goals in the same penalty.
So at that point I left, but I won those
tickets.
I didn't even pay for them.
So that was a little bit of a different
story.
think the Penguin game happens without how
that Columbus game went through because
they bounce back in a certain way.
Yeah, go ahead.
Sorry, it's such a Petri dish.
Like for years, everybody's been saying,
oh, the Leafs aren't any good in the
playoffs.
Leafs aren't any good in the playoffs
because you can't outscore your problems
in the playoffs.
Now they're not outscoring their problems.
They're winning tight games, they're
losing tight games.
So many losses in overtime.
Oh, but that's not conducive to a
successful team.
Like Marty says it all the time lately on
Twitter.
It's constantly moving the goalposts to
fit your narrative, to create negative
press about the Leafs because it sells.
I guess there's an element of that because
obviously with the most media around this
team everyone gets the clicks for you know
Oh, we get to shit on the Leafs But I
think there's also an element of people
are frustrated and if they don't see
growth out of this team There's more
frustration right like we've seen year
after year with the same group no results
in the playoffs So I think people are
raising the expectations in the regular
season for like I don't care about the
points I want to see how you're winning
the games
how you're showing up to these battles.
Like that's what people are looking for
now instead of just regular season points.
That game was the growth though.
They went to the locker room after the
second and said, fuck boys, they looked
each other in the eyes and they said, this
is unacceptable.
This is not how we play.
It's not the team we are.
And they came out and they got a point out
of it, right?
They scored fucking five goals in that
period.
And they tally that afterwards.
I know, but they parlay that afterwards
into a seven, nothing win against
Pittsburgh.
That, those two go hand in hand.
I don't disagree with that.
What I'm trying to say is that there's not
negative media around everything.
We're not changing the goalposts on
everything.
I think there's more scrutiny on this
team.
There's more frustration from the fan base
because we've gone through Kyle Dubas now
his entire era with the team and all we
got was a first round victory.
I think people are more frustrated than
ever because there's been little change
roster wise.
There's been little success difference.
We're basically.
there's been like 9 players, minimum,
changed every year.
on the fringe, right?
Like we've seen the same core run back.
It's been the same, the same center of
this team.
The guys that play 80% of the minutes are
exactly the same.
Like we've, and we were told like, we're
almost there.
We're almost there.
We're almost there.
We're still almost there.
We're onto a new GM and all these guys'
contracts are expiring.
I'm trying to defend the fact that I think
people are more frustrated at this point
because the clock is ticking.
Like we're now at the point where we might
lose William Nylander because there's no
money anymore.
Like that.
that whole era might be over where we've
got him on the team at a nice deal.
Like people are mad and I don't blame them
for being mad.
And I will say this, Toronto is a playoff
based team at this point.
The ebbs and flows of a regular season are
going to be hard to swallow.
Whether you're losing or winning, it
doesn't really matter.
So you're going to go pretty hard into it.
But when it gets to playoff, that's when
this team is actually going to show what
it's made of.
So until then, the storylines are going to
go up, they're going to go down.
It's going to be...
Leafs Twitter is such a toxic place.
Are they gonna play Columbus in the
playoffs?
Of course not, because they're horrible.
So does it matter that they're not great
against Columbus that one night?
No, it really doesn't.
I'm just, I guess the gist of my whole
thing here is, time is an investment and
you can spend it however you see fit.
And if the thing that you were spending it
on is not delivering what you want it to,
you can walk away from that and I don't
blame you.
vision into like what you expect them to
do the whole season.
So they fucking they should embed this
game.
The roof is collapsing.
We're going to go hard on it, whatever.
Onto the next game.
That's always what's going to be in a two
game schedule.
Yeah, when
Yeah.
I don't know the numbers are only so much
like shout out.
I love you Marty and I know you with the
PSA is of their record and everything but
it's like I said people are looking at
games differently like numbers are one
thing yet the points are great but it
people look at how they show up to games
how they play how they win and how they
lose and so when they lose badly or they
make shitty mistakes people are angry and
I don't blame them.
Here's my last point on this, is they
didn't lose badly.
They didn't lose badly, but they played
horribly for 40.
They lost 40 minutes of the game, which I
know is moving the goalpost by definition,
by changing the end time of the game.
But like when you play like that, yeah,
it's just.
It wasn't a good look for the first 40
minutes, let's put it that way.
Like, that's not the team we expect.
Sammy led in bad goals.
Everybody was coughing the puck up like
and they're playing a team that can't put
two and two together.
Like they literally just got rid of their
coach like.
Mm-hmm.
But when you can play the majority of a
game like that and still come back and
salvage a point, there is a bright side
there.
The end.
No, go.
is a huge issue in that game, right?
He was a big, big problem.
They play so differently in front of him
than they do even like Jones or Wall,
especially Wall.
exactly when you play badly, you want to
at least be able to count on one thing
like and when your goalie is not there for
you either, that's a problem.
So it's.
like when he got scored on into various
like turns around he's like what the fuck
This is the one time he didn't put his
glove over his mouth like that pretty much
sums it up
I think it was the last two, there was the
one that went off his mask through the
five hole.
And there was another one that he just
didn't see, it went over his shoulder,
like either the third or the fourth, they
were just really bad.
The first two I don't blame him for
because they were horrible turnovers.
Like that's...
they were all terrible, but he was
especially bad.
Like he let them down in critical spots.
Yeah, I'm not saying it's the goalie's job
to be the savior when the team's playing
like shit, but it's Exactly.
Okay, so moving on the grim The grimness
came to an end pretty quick.
Obviously leaves fallen over time, but
it's an absolutely insane comeback.
I would break it down, but I didn't watch
it.
Yeah.
So before we move on to the next game
anything
of note, like who really led this
comeback?
Who flipped the switch to turn this into
the comeback it was?
you would want to lead to come back.
always Matthews.
Matthews, the way he's been leading this
team is unreal this year.
He is a true definition of the leader of
this team.
It's not even in question anymore.
Like this is his team.
But like everybody, they flipped a switch
and everybody was just going after it.
So did they all take like emergency after
the second intermission or something?
Like, well, not even that.
I well, everybody's sick, apparently.
So was it like that's when the cold beds
wore off and they weren't drugged up
anymore?
Or that's when they took some like, here,
we got to get this in you to feel better.
They took the athletic greens, not a
sponsor.
AG1, I think they're called now.
Who knows?
who fucking knows, but they turned it on.
They did it.
I'm glad they did, but obviously it burned
the tank out on Matthews because him and
somebody else was absent last night.
Brody, right.
Shout out, buddy of mine, last minute, his
girlfriend got them like hundred level
seats for that game.
And he's like, I haven't been to a game in
15 years.
I'm like, all right, let's go.
And sure enough, craziest game of the
season.
So.
What a game to be at.
snaps, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, the duality of fan.
or last night rather.
Yeah.
Holy shit.
GM Kyle Dubas returns with Monsieur
Spezza.
And I said last time they played the pens,
like, what's the best way to stick it to
Dubas?
And everyone was saying when or, you know,
what do we have to stick it to Dubas for?
It's like, well, because it's fun.
It's hockey.
But most people said when.
care about that.
Most people said win or blow them out.
So I'm glad that it didn't happen the
first time, but it happened the second
time.
So here we are.
Seven nothing went over the Pittsburgh
Penguins who are in a bit of a predicament
this year.
But let's get into it.
Let me pull up some stuff from the game
here.
You guys wanna start her off?
I feel this was one of the most...
You go ahead.
Oh, I was just going to say like, welcome
to the NHL Matthew Nyes.
Like, I've loved this kid forever.
And he's shown glimpses here or there.
But that is one of the best games he has
played since he's come up, like getting
the Gordie Howe hat trick too.
Like
But I didn't even think like talent wise,
it was his best game.
But just as he is as a hockey player, the
fact that he stood up for Domi, he
realized that wasn't great.
His assist, his goal was fucking dirty as
shit.
But that was one of his best all around
games.
And that's something we can expect, I
think, from him going forward.
Like, this guy is a beast.
He is going to manhandle people.
To me, he reminds me of like a prime Rick
Nash.
Cause he's big, he'll cut to the net, he's
got a wicked shot.
Like, he always definitely nastier.
But like every time he just drops his
shoulder and cuts to the net, that's just
instantly what I think is Rick Nash from
all those highlight reels in the early
thousands.
He's 21 years old and he's like just
figuring out how big he is and how much he
can use his body as he's playing hockey
with his skills.
So I think as he develops that, he's gonna
be unreal.
Yeah, I mean, look, Thompson, Mr.
Tage Thompson that the fucking announcers
always love to bring up, but it's just an
easy go-to for a big power forward these
days.
But he didn't break out at 18, 19 into the
star that he is now.
Like, yeah, I think you gotta figure out
how to use your size, right?
Like you guys have been saying, like how
do you use what has for the last 10-ish
years been
a disadvantage to your advantage.
Like how do you push through these fast
people?
How do you make up for having a little
less speed?
It's not easy, but I mean, look, Chris
Crider out of nowhere standing in front of
the net scored like 40 goals two years
ago.
So it's, I think once they figure it out,
it's there.
So looking.
if you can develop your man strength and
your skill, that's a huge asset.
And not many people do it.
But when you do, like you said, those type
of players solve a sudden clicks.
So seventh goal of the season for Knives
at the 1803 of the first there.
So right at the beginning.
And holy shit, immediately after like
minutes later, like we said, getting into
a fight.
So Gordie Howe-Hattrick watch was on with
55 minutes left in the game.
All he needed was an assist.
So that's quite a way to start your first
real year in the big leagues.
I'm really impressed by what we're seeing
from him.
Don't, him and Domi, fuck.
well, and the way it happened too, it
wasn't like one of them cheesy fights that
was staged or anything like that.
Like almost David Perron asked with what
happened with Larkin.
Like he saw Domi go down, he felt it was
dirty and he just went after it.
exactly what we've been asking for, right?
Like you said, it wasn't, yeah, it wasn't
hugs after the whistle that turned into a
couple of shots.
It was like somebody jumping to the
defence of another player, which is again,
exactly what we've been asking for.
Before we get too carried on, I feel that
was a theme all night.
Like, they protected Jones.
They stood up for the players all night.
It was a very chippy affair for a Leafs
game.
They showed a lot of oomph.
Yeah, I mean, Laggason and McCabe and
Benoit have been fantastic at just
demolishing people the last couple of
games.
And I love that they figured out, OK,
we're going to do our thing instead of I
know that you guys have your system.
And I think they've shifted away as I've
tried to shovel these guys into what Brody
and Geo have been doing.
They're like, just fucking hit somebody.
It works.
McCann, Legeuil, and Nyes, Robertson, all
these young guys had a huge game tonight.
Last night rather.
Yeah, I'm just...
been playing great for the last handful of
games he's come up.
It's like he does not want to be sent back
down.
Yeah, Bobby McMahon, damn.
McNuggets and Timbits, that's my two food
related guys on the team now.
Benoit with three hits last night.
So fantasy watch, pick him up if you need
hits.
Also plus two on the night, two penalty
minutes.
I mean, these guys that, again, I keep
saying, are these the ones you wanna bring
to the playoffs, are starting to just
become the everyday guys by default, that
they're here every day.
These guys are players that are hungry to
play, they're eager to play, they don't
have any history with this team
whatsoever, so it's a whole new chapter,
right?
and they're getting minutes.
Something that the Leafs are always
incapable of giving new players.
who wasn't playing last night, right?
So everybody else gets to jump up a little
bit, like especially Domi.
I thought he shined more than anybody
else.
Yeah, and I think with the defense, like,
yeah, we've had a lot of injuries last
year and they were flipping people around.
But this year, it's kind of been steady
that it's been one person out, one person
out, one person out.
So the same group of guys have been with
the team pretty much all year.
And these are guys that I don't think
we're expecting to get.
Like, how many fucking NHL games have
these guys played now?
Like, 25?
Some of them?
So that's experience that they would
probably not have gotten this year if
everybody was healthy.
And, you know, you see...
things develop in that time, right?
So it's promising at least.
Absolutely, we traded for basically an
older version of Benoit when we got Shen
last year.
That's exactly it.
fair.
Yeah, now you've got Benoit for cheaper.
So yeah, it would have been nice to keep
Luke Shan for the vibes and the nostalgia
but
from last night is like these young
players or players who have not played
with the Leafs for that long with Austin
Malthus, he's like being out.
They just stepped up and showed what they
can actually do for this team.
And it was very, very encouraging because
we haven't seen a bigger group of players
doing what they did last night in a very
long time.
Yeah, and I mean, this team has a bit of a
streak of doing well with Matthews out.
I mean, it was a bit of a different makeup
of the team, but this is the first time
this year where, like you said, like these
guys have been faced with it.
And yeah, I agree.
They really stepped up to the plate and
showed that Matthews can take a night off
every now and then.
And to be fair, he kind of has, while he's
been there in the lineup.
So it was a nice test.
Hey, come on.
He's had...
He's had at least two or three nights of
just kind of being there, and I don't
blame him.
Like, you can't give 100% every night
through the regular season.
He's still got his defensive play, I
haven't had much to complain about with
him this year.
I'm in Beener Island right now.
But is him playing a perfect offensive
game him giving 100 percent.
Yes.
If that's what's needed, Johnny Myrtle.
If the offense isn't happening, then for
sure it is.
At least he's not Johnny Seagull.
Did you fucking read the thing he wrote
about Domi?
He's being roasted right now on Twitter.
What was it?
The Domi conundrum, I think it was.
And then Domi came out and got three
points and just like, fuck you.
Womp Womp.
No, but look, do you pay?
Mitch Marner for the first time since
London Nights days.
Huge for him.
Okay, I'm not gonna die on this hill.
I'm gonna go to bed.
No, no, let's segue.
So like we said, new guys.
We got Noah Greger, who I have really
liked this year, finally after three shots
ends up scoring.
Again, just the guys stepping up to the
plate.
I don't know what else to say.
Fuck, I love Greger.
Who else got one?
Tavares, Nylander.
Because I want to thought I was just going
through the goals first to see if there
was anything that stood out there.
we'll save him, we'll save him.
Um, but yeah, where there's a wall,
there's a way, because holy shit.
Listen, I was hot on them signing Jones in
the off season.
I feel no one else really was.
I knew what this guy can bring.
He was huge for Seattle.
He was great for the Sharks.
And he's proving it right now.
We were so fucking lucky that he wasn't
claimed off waivers.
Yeah, that was something that probably
would have happened last year.
And I love that the player that would have
been claimed had Dubas been the GM ends up
getting a shutout against Dubas.
The irony is not lost.
Is this like proof that all the GMs in the
NHL hate Dubis because he came in and
tried to change the way people manage a
team?
So it's like, okay, every single player he
puts on waivers, even if we don't want
them, let's just take them.
It's proof of something that they
irrationally took players off waivers for
him.
Look at it this way.
If somebody all of a sudden starts buying
up all of the GameCube games off of Kijiji
in town, people are going to start going,
oh, someone wants these and they'll start
charging more for them.
I don't value them myself.
But if somebody else is going to buy them,
I will charge you $125 if that's what it
says it's worth online.
Like, it's kind of that mentality of if
somebody else is putting a value on it,
then I sure like
Dubas likes this guy and he's putting him
through waivers.
He can't keep him because of something.
Great, I'll take it.
Maybe I can trade it back to him for
something if he wants this guy so bad.
Listen, he's not a Peter Murasic.
Like this guy was playing for Seattle last
year in the second round of the playoffs
and putting up good numbers.
He is a good goaltender.
He's been around for awhile.
And the fact that he wasn't claimed, he's
good, man.
He's, he's good.
He's a good goaltender.
I think that's what we're seeing is like
San Jose has been a horrible team for a
long time.
And the guy was basically wasting away
there.
And the years on Seattle are completely
different.
And now we're seeing if you put a team in
front of him, a complete team, because
Seattle is last year was kind of a
storybook year for them.
Like Jared McCann scoring that much is not
going to happen again, I don't think.
But look, he's now in a position where
he's got a fully built team in front of
him.
And I.
I think it's doing well for him and as it
should, right?
I think, until Wall comes back.
There's a reason Martin Jones has stayed
in the league, even though he's sporting a
sub 900 every year.
Like there's people are seeing the saves
that he is making regardless of how shitty
his team is and keeping him around.
So as our in-house goalie, what do you
think of this meter?
So I was very adamant when he got signed
that I was not necessarily happy with it
because I feared that this was basically
another ticket for Wal to head to the
Marlies.
Because I love...
Yeah.
bump Wal down a spot?
Why did we give him this chance if we're
just gonna bring in Jones?
No, exactly.
And that was my fear because I love Wall
and I think I've got a lot of faith in him
for the future.
Yeah, so with Jones, the fact that we were
able to keep him, like, he's had some
really good flashes, but it's been really
difficult.
He had three seasons in San Jose when he
was one of the best in the league.
And then.
just completely tanked after that.
Now, as Roscoe said, the team in front of
him was kinda playing crappy.
Even last year with the crack and like an
887, that's not a great save percentage.
No, they were outscoring all of their
problems.
They were letting in five and scoring six.
Like that was their whole year.
So you can kind of look at it.
It all depends on the team and how they're
doing.
Like no offense to the guy, we turned Jack
Campbell into an All-Star, right?
Like look at what LA is doing right now.
They've built a team and they don't even
care who the hell's in that.
Whoever is in that out there is doing
well.
Phoenix Copley, can't tell but couldn't
stop a beach ball last year and he's
playing great right now.
Like different goalies depending on their
style.
play better under different systems.
Wall is a very efficient goaltender and he
plays very well for us.
Sammy is not.
Sammy is an acrobatic goalie.
Now he did have a good season last year,
but everyone can have a flash in the pan.
So this might be a little bit of that
reverting back to it.
Jones has been around long enough that he
can play that very structured system, so.
Interesting.
Well, thank you for the Inside the Goalie
Mask take.
Oh, we should go inside the goalie mask.
he's a lot more just like system player,
whereas you said Sammy, he'll rise
confidence, he's a hot type, he's like a
90s, like Felix Potluck type of goalie,
right?
If he's on, he's really great.
If he's not, you better score like six
goals.
And look, this team can do that eight out
of 10 times.
I said this earlier, I think Wall is our
most important player going forward.
This is our guy.
He is gonna lead us to wherever we go.
There's obviously Matthews and all these
guys, but I think he is the most important
player going forward.
Yeah, I think we're finally seeing the
culmination of a lot of development with
him.
Like they were very careful about not
bringing him up too early.
Like for the entire existence of this
podcast, I've been asking where the hell
is Joseph Wall?
So now we're here, he's here and he's
great.
So I'm glad that they trusted their system
and waited until he was absolutely ready
and confident that he could do it because
it's paying off.
So this begs the question, what do they do
going forward?
Do we trade Sammy before the trade
deadline, who's Jones, our second
goaltender?
That's one of the biggest questions that
has to be going forward with the Leafs.
Well, I mean...
this point, sorry Roscoe, at this point
you almost have to move them.
Yeah, I was just going to say there's a
lot of teams looking for goalies.
that like the money too, it just makes so
much sense for a trade.
Can you trick Edmonton into taking another
goalie?
Maybe I'll do one.
Like, oh, yeah, see, Ottawa's a pretty
frequent trade partner with the Leafs.
there.
I'm just very bitter about Ottawa tonight.
We're not going to talk about that, but.
But no, I think you do have to at least
look at it, but I don't think it's as
pressing now that Klingberg's LTI-ard for
the rest of the season.
You've got a bit of a juggle going on
here.
We heard, I mean, we haven't talked about
Ryan Reeves going down in the most bizarre
way possible.
He's not expecting to...
to Robot Island.
He's not expected to miss significant
time, but they did move Gio to LTIR, I
believe, today was the move.
So.
like this gold tender controversy is not
going to be a thing going forward,
especially with Toronto media or like
Toronto, like Twitter verse, whatever you
want to like phrase it as it's going to be
a thing.
Yeah, like what do you do when you've got
all three of them healthy?
Like who do you send?
Like you can't, god damn.
I mean, you could try to send Jones down,
but after that performance, I don't know
if he'll clear waivers again.
See you soon.
Keep Wallen Jones and send Sammy down.
If someone claims them, okay yeah, you
lose them for nothing, but you're not
paying that salary.
It's honestly...
you throw them in for like cap just to
make it work money wise.
I would rather lose them on waivers than
pay somebody to take them, but I don't see
anyone claiming that contract off waivers,
but
chance.
Yeah, I think the position of power in the
trade is the person with the goalie, not
the person looking for one.
Like, you know, you can say the contracts
not greater, he's been questionable all
you want, but you need a goalie and I have
one.
So do you want them or not?
right.
And at that point, like you'd have to let
Sammy take the net for a while to show
that he is capable of, you know, being
worth a trade, right?
Yes and no because goalies are notoriously
kind of fucked in the head and that's
coming from a goalie and a lot of goalie
coaches are former goalies.
So I can pretty much guarantee you there
is at least one if not a handful of goalie
coaches in their GM's ear right now
saying, hey, we can save him.
We can turn him into an all-star.
Get him.
It's funny what you're saying because
Edmonton is not like a terrible candidate
for this right now, like...
Picard is doing terrible, um...
Like, all their goaltenders are fucking
terrible.
Yeah, it's just the story would be crazy
that like, we're just kind of if the
goalie doesn't work here, we ship them off
to Edmonton.
Like, is that the deal?
Oh, my god.
I don't.
But yeah, like I said, I don't think it's
as pressing like before the deadline.
Maybe Yeah, it.
I think it could be an interesting piece.
Now that this has all shaped up this way
and Jones's
is playing well.
If you're looking for a defenceman, you
now have Sammy as a bargaining chip that I
don't think you thought you had two weeks
ago.
So that becomes a factor in trades.
So, yeah, could be interesting what Brady
can cook up.
right?
It is making me worried that the Calgary
flames that he built are continuing to
suck.
Not giving me much faith in the moves he's
gonna make, but we'll see.
We'll see.
I'm opposite of you, I think.
I got a lot more faith in him than you do.
I'm not saying I don't have faith in him,
I'm just saying it worries me a little
that the people that he brought in Calgary
are all slow, but whatevs.
Well, yes and no, he was forced to trade
his best player for pennies on the dollar.
And like that being said, at the time we
all thought he made a decent deal.
But like that's not a, you're not dealing
from a position of strength there.
I mean, yeah, you gotta figure out, Hubert
O.
Anyway.
one of his deal right now?
Those guys are fucking saddled with that.
Whoo, you talking about Roman Island?
Jesus.
Yeah.
uh...
Also speaking of goalies, shout out again
to Hildeby, he's still lighting it up in
the AHL.
Nice, love that, love to hear it.
He'll be...
goals against average 929 save percentage
Hmm.
be a battle between him and a wall one
day.
So last thing, GM Kyle Dubas, throwing a
bit of a fit.
A couple of people that missed the game
were asking if he was there, shout out to
Sarwa.
He was, and he was not happy.
You could tell he...
for post-game media either.
Of course he wasn't.
I'd say by go three or four, he was
crushing some empty bottles back there
with his angry fists.
have like classic woover, he stood up,
moved the vest like that, sat back down,
and Jason Spetson was writing, We fucking
suck in his notebook.
Hahaha
Oh, what does this team do?
It's exactly what we expected.
one of Crosby's last great years.
Like he's having a Renaissance right now.
This guy is playing unreal.
They move the farm to get Carlson.
They re up their goaltender.
Malcolm's playing like shit.
Like, what do they do here?
Honestly, like the move was bringing Eric
Carlson in for the last hurrah, you know,
go for one more.
And now you're kind of stuck with that
contract for more than a couple of years.
Like, I don't know, man.
God we didn't trade for him.
And he tried so many times.
I feel so bad for Crosby right now, like I
really, really do.
Yeah.
to put it into context, Crosby is what,
36?
Yep.
Yeah.
So he's on pace for like 50 goals this
year, right?
for the second time ever, ladies and
gentlemen, we'll hit that.
Gretzky's 36 age year hit 25.
No, he's unreal, right?
Like, he's playing as if he's playing when
he was like 29 right now.
Like, his game is...
unbelievable.
But they just can't put it together around
him.
And I don't like that's Dubas's job.
Like when your star is playing his best
season ever and the team around him sucks,
like, sorry.
Like, I don't know.
is?
You train him to Colorado.
He plays with Nathan McKinnon, another
fucking coal harbor boy.
One, two punch.
Hmm.
I don't know if he'd wave.
No, I think Crosby's more worried about
his legacy there.
trade it, that's where he goes.
It would be Montreal if anywhere I grew up
a Habs fan.
Oh god, they're so fucking god-awful, he
would never finish his career there.
They're way too shitty.
Guess how many goals Alex Ovechkin's on
pays for.
10.
Under like 25, 20.
who hasn't scored in 11 or 12 games.
Yeah, that's a real problem.
How do I do this math again?
It's like.
Which is kind of crazy because he is like,
as a power play specialist, he's on the
top of the circle, he gets the one timer,
he claps it in.
It's not very skilled, it's just a great
shot and it's not been working.
for yeah, for years, everybody's just
always said, plant someone on him like
you're shorthanded.
You're already down.
Yeah, just someone else can score.
I don't care.
He's not scoring because that's all he did
was stand there and shoot.
And he still got his goals every game.
we used to play against someone who was
way better than anyone on our team and our
coach would assign someone, be like, don't
do anything except for be on this guy's
shadow.
That's all you do all game.
So he is on pace, if my math is correct,
for 14 or 15 goals this year.
He's got five goals through 28 games.
He hasn't scored, I think, in like 12
games now.
If he finishes the year with anything
under 20, he has never finished a season
with a one as the first digit in his
goals.
How many does he have until Gretzky's
record?
and do something I think.
He's at 827, so...
Yep, so 68, 69, something like that.
Quick math in my head.
Not looking good.
one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight, nine 50 goal seasons.
No.
What the fuck out of here?
That's crazy.
aside for Matthews, he's the best goal
scorer in the last 20 years.
Because Matthews has better numbers.
yeah, well, I mean, 52 goals in his first
year with the Caps.
obviously Ovi does but
Yeah, it's just, it's, on one end it feels
like the end of an era with Ovi, and on
the other side with Crosby, it feels like,
you know, he's got more in the tank and
what do you do?
more years in the tank.
Again, I mean, we felt that way about Ovi
last year, so you never know.
I think you got to treat every year like,
you know, if he's on this year, you got to
use it while it's here.
the discrepancy is huge this year.
Yeah, and it has never been through their
entire run together.
You also have to look at the style of game
they play too, right?
Like, oh yeah, so Crosby's style is more
conducive to being better over the long
term.
Really, because I would think that Ovi's
style is easy, like to stand there in a
spot and wait for the puck to shoot it,
like seems pretty light on your body.
But he's been doing just that for so long
that that's all he has now.
Right?
Like what?
What?
The what?
Yeah.
Performance anxiety.
No.
Like when he came in, he was deking, he
was running through guys, he was doing
everything.
And then over the course of a handful of
years, it turned into just shot after shot
after shot.
Whereas Crosby, if he snake bit.
Okay, he's still winning draws.
He's still playing defensively.
I know you don't think that's important,
Roscoe, but
god, that's not what I said.
He dominates offense on the boards like he
cycles like no other he plays a full game
Yeah, exactly.
He does the to pull a Don Cherry.
He does all the little things, right?
Like he so if even if it's not going well
for him on the score sheet, he still has
other aspects to the game to bring and the
more you're out there, the more you're
doing, the better chance it is that you're
going to catch fire again.
Right?
Like he he's not just skill.
He has the hard work to go with the skill.
So from Sportsnet, I was listening to the
podcast the other night with JD Bunkhiss,
Sam McKee, and Justin Bourne.
And they were saying, would you trade
Crosby for Nylander or Marner?
And they all said yes.
And I didn't know how to feel about that.
yes as who as to wrong?
Yes.
Not okay.
Here's no, it's not completely irrelevant.
We can we can segue to this.
The only way like if they brought in some
defensemen through a trade that they were
going to resign, that was going to cost a
bit of money that made it so that Nylander
was impossible.
That may be at the deadline if we're like,
guys, this is the year.
Nylander's not gonna resign.
He's told us, like, if you can't offer me
this much, and they say we can't, that's
if in that world, in that box, send
Nylander to Pittsburgh to do this.
is like you send him off to another team
to win a cup within one or two years,
right?
Is it the Leafs?
Is it the Avalanche?
Like, would you actually do that?
Did I hear you wrong there, Sully?
Did you say Nylander and Marner or
Nylander or Marner?
Okay, I thought you said and.
That's what I was like, no, absolutely
not.
We're not doing both of them.
up Marner or like, or Neylander?
I guess the idea with moving Marner is to
free up cap space over a longer period of
time.
Cause what's Crosby's contract like right
now?
it, and like, would I actually do this?
And it's enticing, it's hell, but...
I'm not sure I would.
Where does he play?
Because Tavares is your second line
center, Matthew is obviously your first.
Tavares is way too slow to play on the
wing.
Matthews would go wing.
Look at the World Cup when he was playing
with McDavid on Team North America.
face-off percentage and like his defensive
prowess, unless if he played like center
position in the defensive zone and then
went winger in the offensive zone.
I feel like you kind of just end up with
all-star rules at that point where you've
got two centers on the first line and they
just figure it out.
Like.
But they were so like hell bent on it like
yes, yes.
I see the only argument I'd make for the
Marner thing is you're getting two years
of Crosby at eight points or a year and a
half of Crosby at 8.7 and you're freeing
up that money for the rest of time.
But the downside is you don't have Mitch
Marner, which is what you're fucking
paying for.
So I don't see, I personally wouldn't make
that trade, but I understand the argument
to it.
hold that trigger.
But again, I really hope that they can
figure things out with him money wise.
But if it makes more sense to bring in,
you know, if we have to do we have to
resign Joseph Wall?
This is pure fantasy talk, by the way.
Like, we're just shooting the shit here.
Do we have to re-sign Joseph Wall this
year?
we have Wall again next year at 766.
Yeah.
Oh, but we don't have Jones, Sammy.
So, I mean, if you have to bring in a
goalie to back up Joseph Wall, that you've
got to spend a little money on to make
sure that it's solid.
You're bringing in a defenseman like,
yeah, there's a couple of things that like
if it's this or Nylander, it's got to be a
really good this.
I just I would rather them work out
bringing me Willie back.
Me too.
At this point, we have $33.4 million of
available cap next year.
Oh yeah, there's a lot.
I mean, yeah, a lot, but then when you
take off, Nylander, Nylander Bertuzzi,
Domi, Robertson, Greger, McMahon, Brody,
Lillagren, Benoit, Lagasin, Lajois,
Sampsonov, Jones, Giordano.
Like.
I think he might have played his best game
as a Leaf Saturday night.
so too.
Like, yeah, you can obviously replace all
these guys, but like for 33 million,
that's, you know, that's gonna get eaten
up pretty quick.
with the cap increase.
Yeah, it's four million.
Is that with the cap increase study or
Banner?
I'm sorry, I'm just trying to find it back
here.
That's with the cap at 87.5.
So yes.
See, that's tough.
Like, what's that?
One, two, three, four, five, six.
Yeah, you've got Robertson, Greger,
McMahon, Lagosan, and LeJoy, and Joseph
Wall, all on sub league men contracts.
Like, that's something that.
Joseph Wall still there next year at that
price?
But that's what I mean is like most of
your team that is filling out these side
spots are on contracts that on paper don't
actually qualify.
Matthew Nyes is at 925 this year and next.
Like, I don't know, I just.
Go ahead.
What kind of made like Saturday Night
Special?
Like all these players on that type of
contract contributed so much.
It was great to see, because we don't
often see that many people on that type of
contract contributing to the Leafs.
Yeah.
And then next year it's do you want those
guys back because they've proven
themselves or do you try to find nine more
needle in the haystacks like Dubas was
doing every year?
Like it's do you want to keep rolling the
dice with the people on the outskirts of
the lineup or do you sign William
Nylander?
And that's kind of what it's coming down
to.
Like it's he's the biggest piece of the
pie that takes probably four guys, five
guys out of the lineup, like 10, 10
million.
That's.
five guys making two that's four guys
making two and a half you know
I think that's the math people got to
start looking at is like as much as we
love it, I just I also don't want the rest
of the team.
I just don't want the rest of the team to
get hurt for it.
I got the biggest blinders on right now
that we don't have to fucking look at
that.
This year is fantastic so far.
Let's roll with it.
Let's let's go to questions from the
Twitterverse here.
So Lucas Hainsworth, Luke, man, what
strategies or tactics do we employ to
maintain control throughout the game?
You guys are more up on the actual play of
hockey than I am.
So you want to take it.
I'm going to say their best defense is
their offense.
When they start cycling and having puck
domination, that's when they're the best
team.
Even when it goes into their defensive
van, they have quick breakouts.
These guys are an offensive team.
That's what they are.
So when they're playing that type of game,
they win a lot more than they lose.
And the beauty of it right now is with
some of the additions and the way that
they play, it's brought a little bit of a
different aspect to it.
And we've mentioned a couple times how
even just like Matthew Nyes, for instance,
he's got the skill, but he throws his body
around.
He's not afraid to go in the corners.
He almost likes to go in the corners.
So you have the skill to control and
dominate when you have the puck.
And then when you don't have the puck,
you're not afraid to go and get it.
and the impact that's had on the rest of
the team.
So Nye's playing like that on the same
line with Marner and Matthews directly
impacting that.
And then you have Domi, who is just like a
dog on a bone.
Like he does not stop.
offensively, especially like with
Robertson going to, that's a huge
difference between having an offensive
third line and like a shut down third.
Yeah, and I think what this team has
struggled with is what does the third line
do other than just hold the puck in the
offensive zone for like a minute until the
lines change.
And it's like, well, that's great.
And all it's better than the puck being in
our end, but nobody got a shot off.
So Just kind of killing time.
So it's nice that it seems that they're
finally clicking, they're producing their
The confidence is I think the other the
other thing right like the team plays like
they know
that they can make that pass.
They know they can push through those two
defensemen in front of the net.
It's taking that extra chance that you
know you have the skill advantage there.
You know you have that extra foot of space
that you needed to make that play.
I think whatever it was that flipped their
confidence back on at the end of the
Columbus game I think carried over, like
you said.
Yeah, and I think if you have Robertson
and especially Domi playing with like
great confidence, that makes a huge
difference in this team.
Like Domi from right now to the beginning
of the season, totally different player.
Oh yeah, I mean we were wondering if he
was just going to finish the season all
assists and not score like it was getting
brutal But now it seems like he's found
what his place is on this team and like
you said Robertson too Okay next question
Fun guys Hothpock Cal start bench cut so
start Domi and Mitch combo bench Ron
McLean cut Jonas Siegel
Well, not even.
Easiest question in the whole fucking
universe.
Yeah, that's, I like that it's just.
Seagull's been so roasted on Twitter the
last 24 hours, he hasn't tweeted, he's in
a cubbyhole somewhere right now.
What's funny is there's no parameters for
this.
It's just these are the one I like,
something that's okay and something I
don't like.
So good.
He's busy drawing Dubas' tears right now.
If there's been so many good memes about
him in Doos, it's fantastic.
Oh yeah, I'm just looking at a picture
from at Mario Cosentino.
Yeah, there's like stuff written on the
wall and Dubus is like, here, I'll just
share that.
This picture is yeah, I'm gonna pull it up
here.
This picture is so funny.
Bum, bum, bum.
this much shit as he has right now.
No, no, that's not even the one, that's
not even the one.
I'll f- I'll- You guys keep going, I'll
find it.
I was just like, what did I get myself
into?
It's like, dude, I could have stayed in
Toronto.
I sold my house in a really bad time to
sell my house in Toronto, you dick.
Okay, what are we else we got here for
questions.
So TJ, TJ 47772409.
That's a fake at so give, give Matthews
extra rest and give Domi one C.
So give Matthews an extra game off and
start Domi on the first line center.
What do you think?
No, definitely not, because we've got New
York again on Tuesday, and they're gonna
be out for blood after we shitkick them.
100%.
Yeah, and while you have John Tavares
healthy, he's the number one center of
Matthews is down, I think, right?
Yeah, well, and then Tuesday is also, I
think, going to be the one they give the
ceremony for.
Tavara is hitting a thousandth point, so
we want to make sure we, you know, put on
a good effort for our captain.
nice.
So last one here from Mikey D.
I am so sorry, Mikey D of the believers
pod for forgetting believers pot earlier.
It's been a long week.
Yeah, he can come on.
at a very steady shadow at the end at
least.
Cause we fucking love Mikey D.
Yeah.
Come on.
start bench cut Timmy's items.
He says I'm starting large double benching
hockey cards or Timbits and cutting Boston
cream because not a fan.
So in the correct format of our start
bench cut, let's go with what do we do
like
sandwiches, baked goods, and hot drinks.
Start one, bench one, cut one for Timmy's.
You have to pick one of each or just pick
the category.
I think categories, like you have to
start, bench or cut one of.
Can we go off the board?
Because I feel their coffee is the worst
in League.
Dark roast, their dark roast is the best.
But do you think there's other hot, like,
okay, so like you can say cut beverages
then.
Yeah, cut beverages, cut beverages.
Anything after that, whatever you want to
do.
Timbits, hockey cards are fine.
The food is fucking shit.
I fucking hate Tim Hortons more than
anything.
Sandwiches and other like sandwiches,
wraps, bowls, baked goods, so muffins and
donuts and cookies and stuff and
beverages.
Those are the three categories start bench
cut.
So you're start, you're benching, sorry,
you're cutting.
Okay, cool.
Starting baked goods, I'm cutting
beverages, and then we're gonna play
whatever's after that.
your benching sandwiches and other menu
items.
Yes, they're my middle for sure.
Boehner, what do you think?
Starting the drinks.
Dark roast all day every day.
Oh my god.
Ha ha ha.
I'm sorry I won't spend eight dollars on a
fucking Starbucks.
Buddy, McDonald's coffee's better than
Tim's coffee.
Oh yeah, okay.
Anyways, coffee, baked goods, everything
else.
Starting...
Beverages.
beverages, benching, baked goods, and then
the sandwiches and all that.
No, no, no.
I'm just trying to figure out what he was
doing.
So I'm gonna do, I'm gonna start, oh man.
Probably, okay, I'm starting baked goods
because though they are kind of hit and
miss, they've got some good, the muffins
that have the cream cheese icing inside
them, the carrot cake one with the cream
cheese in it or a pumpkin pie one with it,
those are good.
Those ones are good.
I like me, sorry Mikey, I like me a Boston
cream.
The apple fritters are pretty good.
two best things from Tim Warden's right
there.
they've got some decent baked good items.
The cookies are okay.
I'm not a big Tim's cookie fan.
The reason I'm giving them the edge over
sandwiches is because the Turkey Bacon
Club used to be my favorite sandwich and
they changed it and ruined it.
It used to have honey mustard.
And as a child, when I was like, I don't
know if I like mustard, that was the thing
that introduced me to honey mustard.
And I was like, I actually like this.
And then they were like, actually, we're
gonna change.
the bun and we're going to put mayo
instead of honey mustard and it's going to
be artisanal now.
I don't like it.
I mean, I don't not like it.
It's still just a turkey bacon club, but
it's not the Tim's Turkey Bacon Club.
And I hate Tim Hortons period.
So I, I should just remove myself from
this.
It's all on YouTube.
If you've been here since day one, I have
gone on a couple tie raids about Tim
Hortons.
I do not like Tim's.
I usually get horrible customer service
there.
When I go, I don't like the menu items.
I think Burger King has ruined this
company by constantly adding whatever menu
item didn't work for Burger King to the
Tim Hortons menu.
Like, it's so stupid.
of betting on the sins in a parley.
You just, you don't do it.
There's cardinal rules, you don't do it.
So, friends don't let friends bet on the
sands is our new motto here at Leafs Late
Night.
huge platform that we're running right
now.
For anyone listening, don't let your
friends bet on sins.
So do you wanna end us off with what
happened there?
Oh, what's up, Boehner?
Wendy's owns Tim's not Burger King.
Oh, 100%.
Oh, isn't it Burger King?
I thought BK did.
single, every single en route has Wendy's
and Tim's.
no.
No, Restaurants International is the
result of Burger King buying Tim Hortons.
so then they own Wendy's as well.
No, that's just a thing.
just Google it.
Wendy's Tim Hortons.
Murphy's success with combining coffee and
donuts with Wendy's fast food led to the
1995 merger.
Yeah, I'm talking in like 2016 Burger King
bought Tim Hortons.
Sorry, I'm trying to Google this as we go.
Horrible podcasting.
I know.
20 August 20 August 26 2014 Burger King
agreed to merge with Tim Hortons for $11.4
billion to create restaurant brands
international.
Also, tip-or-tens, if you're listening, we
will sponsor the Hello Review.
We love you.
Operating, yeah, operating revenue is a
$5.73 billion.
Yeah, I just, I feel like they lost touch
with what Tim Hortons meant to Canada and
Canadians and the like hometown classic
nostalgia vibes of it.
And they keep trying to add things that
like nobody asked for.
I don't need a lime Chipotle ghost pepper
bowl from Tim Hortons.
Are you insane?
Like put the money towards making the
coffee and the donuts.
taste better.
Like, no!
Remember when they had the Greek wraps and
that's where the, they introduced like
Greek wraps and potato wedges at one point
and then they were like, actually, the
potato wedges are probably a good idea and
they kept those around and they scrapped
like everything on that menu is a remnant
of an old bad idea.
Like it's so fucking annoying walking in
there.
Anyway, that's, that's my, my Tim's rant.
I'm going to, I could go on for so long.
I could do an entire podcast about Tim
Hortons.
Do you want to finish this off with how
the, uh, how the sense fucked you tonight?
No, I don't want to really, but I'm going
to.
Um, don't ever bet on the Sands because
they're the fucking shittiest team in the
whole world.
And if you have them in a parlay, they're
gonna fuck you out of a ton of money.
In my last two parlay's that I've had them
in, I've lost almost over a thousand
dollars.
I've hit 14 out of 16 and they're the one
team that has fucked me.
And I know the people are gonna say, why
didn't you cash out?
Why didn't you cash out?
Cause they didn't have an option because
the Sands were so fucking terrible.
They lost by so many fucking goals that I
couldn't do it.
Even tonight I had them by plus two five.
They were up in the first and then they
fucked me.
So if you have a friend who's trying to
bet on the sins, don't let them do it.
Be a real good friend.
Tap them on the shoulder and say no.
No.
Fuck those guys.
Oh my god that's I'm sorry I'm laughing
but it's
And if we ever have a podcast where I bet
on the sins again, send me to Gamblerz
Anonymous because that's where I deserve
to be.
I defied- I told Beaner this tonight.
I defied the gambling gods and they smited
me down.
I had a huge, huge parlay where I hit
everything tonight except for the sins and
I knew I shouldn't have done it, but I did
it.
I took my hand in the cookie jar and I got
fucked.
have to send you to Pinto Island.
EW
Oh, Pinto Island.
Oh, forgot about that one.
Do we think DJ's coach number five fired
of the year?
I can't believe we've had four fired by
December.
the next fucking coach to be fired.
They're chanting it, but I mean, Steyos
has doubled down.
been fired already, I don't think so.
I think Ann Lauer doesn't want that bill
on top of everything that's already gone.
you motherfuckers got me so heated right
now i am like clenching my hands i am
furious about this
Okay, quick change.
Who can name all the coaches that have
been fired this year?
We'll finish with that.
I can't even think straight.
Craig Berube, Woodcroft, Evison.
Berube, Woodcroft, Evison.
Does Babcock count?
No.
Um...
They didn't play a game before he got
fired.
Yeah, that's true.
Um...
Those are the only ones that jump out at
me right now.
I think that's it for room, yeah.
Oilers.
Woodcroft, Everson, and Borubey.
Euler's Wild and St.
Louis.
Is that it?
I think that's it.
And I think that makes Martein Saint-Louis
like the sixth tenured coach in the league
right now.
Holy shit.
like him as a coach though.
So David Quinn has, I think, the best odds
to get fired next.
Yeah, now the third coach fired this
season.
Yeah, I'm surprised.
Like, I don't know.
With San Jose, it's the same thing I said
about the wild.
DJ Smith got it, Lane Lambert, Dave Quinn
after that, Sheldon Keefe is fourth.
Not a long tenure job, NHL coaches.
Mmm, it's a rough go.
Well, all right.
Thank you for tuning in.
It's been a fun one.
Lots of emotions, but what's that also?
Anybody listening if you want to
contribute to my parlay fund, please do so
because senators fucked me terribly.
Hehehe
It's the holiday season, I can use it.
Yeah, we'll have some shirts out.
Buy our new shirts.
Go fund me.
All right.
Thanks guys.
Appreciate having you on as always.
When do the Leafs play next?
And who would...
New York?
Tuesday?
Rangers.
Eh, they're gonna have to look it up.
Thanks.
at home.
At home, John E.T.
gets his silver stick for a thousand
points.
Boom.
I was thinking when I was designing some
merch, we should do a calendar next year
that has all the Leaf games marked on in
the days, but like, it's a calendar of us.
So, nice.
So you can follow along with Leaf Games
and have some fun Leaf's late night
pictures, you know?
I don't know, just brainstorming.
Hahaha
It's all different cartoons of stuff we've
said on the pod over the years.
That's what I was trying to do, but you'll
see with the new stuff when it comes out.
Trying to play the outro.
There we go.
Also, Johnny, do you ever follow up on
that Canadian app singer who shorted
everybody and made a ton of money?
The what?
Remember when she sang that fucking
Canadian national anthem?
Super short.
Do we ever follow up on her?
What do you mean, what happened?
The huge under.
Oh, oh, we.
Oh, if there was a bet going on there.
Oh, my God.
No, we should check back.
So what's a fun little update?
What's happening with my soundboard here
is I know nobody cares about this, but I'm
really excited.
It's just a bunch of buttons with sounds
and used to be when I hit the sound.
It was like if you pressed it on a board,
it would just play it instantly.
But now when I click the sound, it loads
it to the bottom and I have to hit play.
So it gives me that little bit.
wanted this to be the last thing that we
heard in this podcast.
And you ruined it for me.
people love behind the scenes tech.
I can delete that.