Flying Dog Flies, and The Brew Shop Rocks

In this episode, we dive into the changing landscape of the craft beer industry, including Flying Dog's acquisition by FX Matt, the closure of the Guinness brewery in Halethorpe, Maryland, and the closing of Astrolab.

We also shout out the Lost Generation/Bluejacket/50 Hertz Tingly Foods collaborative beer Tiger Spirit, which supports Chefs Stopping Asian American Pacific Islanders Hate.

In this episode's interview, Brandy speaks with the owners of The Brew Shop in Arlington, Virginia, to discuss the journey from home brewing to planning a home-brew store to opening their beer, wine and home brew shop on the Rosslyn-Ballston corridor.

Upcoming beer events include Oud Beersel Lambic Tasting with Master Blender Gert Christiaens at The Sovereign on May 31st, and in June include the 6th annual Pride Pils collaboration from DC Brau and Red Bear. Get the full calendar at dcbeer.com/events.

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Brandy Holder

This southern girl got a late start in the beer world, but with such a bold and intoxicating personality behind the name, booze was destined to be a part of her endeavors.

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Jake’s beer education began when his dad brought home a 6-pack of Brooklyn Lager in the mid-90s. It was love at first sip.

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[00:11:44] Jacob: Welcome everyone to the DC Beer Show. Hope you enjoyed that new vibe check we've got in the intro. We are @DCBeer across social media.

[00:12:06] Hey Brandy, whatchya drinking tonight?

[00:12:07] Brandy: Man, Jake, I, I am not currently drinking anything, but I went over to Shelter and had a bunch of little tasters of some great beer. I had a, a couple of Bluejacket beers. I had a delicious Trillium. I had a Gose from, from, uh, Halfway Crooks. I had some really great little, I had a brown ale and a, a brown porter.

[00:12:33] It was, it was lovely having the array of, of beers, uh, over at Shelter and some sushi, some killer sushi. So if you all haven't checked out shelter, I [00:12:44] highly recommend cuz I got everything from Perennial to Trillium to to Lost Generations. Uh, Uh, collab beer. So, yeah. What are you drinking, Mr. Stein?

[00:12:56] MIke: Well Brandy, speaking of Lost Generation's collaborative beer, I am drinking Tiger Spirit,

[00:13:02] Brandy: That's the one!

[00:13:03] MIke: Yeah, Tiger Spirit, you know, it's a collab, but usually collabs are two. This is a tri, a tripartite or a quartet, or maybe even a quintet collaborative beer because it's got Bluejacket on the can, it's got Chefs Stopping AAPI (Asian American Pacific Islander) Hate, which is a group, uh, with Tim Ma and Kevin Chen are the co-founders of it. I've also got Imperial Yeast there on the can. But what's really cool about Chefs Stopping AAPI Hate is that 10% of all proceeds from the Tiger Spirit Beer, which is not just at Lost Generation, it's also at Shelter and [00:13:44] Bluejacket, is that 10% of these proceeds donated to Chefs Stopping Asian American Pacific Islander Hate.

[00:13:51] You, love to see it increase the peace, decrease the hate, and I just have to say Tiger Spirit, it's a wit beer. And it's that classic wit it's full-bodied from the wheat, it's low abv, 4.8%. It's just hitting on all the right notes. And as a quintet does, there is a richness in this beer that is so beautiful.

[00:14:13] I have to give, uh, the kudos to, uh, Ann and Jared at Lost Generation, as well as Tim Ma from Chefs Stopping AAPI Hate, Tim Lu from Bluejacket. And then lastly, the people from 50 Hertz, uh, which is this wonderful, you know, spice and ingredient company that got in on the Lost Generation collaboration.

[00:14:34] Jake Berg, Jake "Scoops" Berg. What are you

[00:14:39] Jacob: so yeah, I was, I was also gonna shout out um, Yao, over at, uh, 50 [00:14:44] Hertz Tingly Foods. They also do um, like the Sichuan Peppercorn flavored peanuts. They're delightful. They go great with a wide array of beers. Check 'em out. It is now, Kolsch weather, and so I have Suarez's um, Rapport.

[00:14:57] Kolsch-style Ale. Uh, got that yeast really, really nicely done. Keeping it crisp. Uh, but like a little bit of fruit, slightly darker than a Helles, little more carbonation would be nice. But, you know, I was quite, quite pleased. Thank you um, to whoever brought that to me

[00:15:14] right, the first order of business is that Flying Dog is um, flying the coop and they just got bought by FX matt, who you might best know from Saranac and the Kirkland brand, uh, beers that they sell at Costco.

[00:15:31] MIke: It's kind of ironic that the tagline for Flying Dog more recently, since 2017 has been, uh, "America's most disobedient brewery." And I don't know that I would call FX Matt [00:15:44] America's most obedient brewery, but they have really made their mark playing it true to style the Saranac beers, whether it's the Black Forest, Schwartz beer, you know, their black lager.

[00:15:54] Or they've got some pale ails and some IPAs, but they're very, what I would call safe beers in that you would never buy the Schwartz beer and be like, oh, this is too roasty. You would never buy you know, the Pale Ale and be like, oh, this is too bitter. This is too hazy. It's too, too hoppy. It, they're always too style and they're well-made beers.

[00:16:13] But it's just fascinating that Flying Dog, the brewery, who many, uh, former employees call. The marketing company with a brewing problem would be bought out by what I believe is America's second oldest brewery. And Flying Dog is no spring chicken themselves. They are 20 some odd years old at this point in time.

[00:16:32] But it's really interesting that in the press release CEO Jim Caruso said if the business environment were more hospitable in Frederick, he said he loves Frederick, but the business environment is not [00:16:44] hospitable. And sadly what that means for Flying Dog employees. Probably some layoffs.

[00:16:49] Stay tuned to DC Beer Media dcbeer.com, and we will keep you posted on the developments as they unfold.

[00:16:57] Jacob: I want to add that this comes right on the heels the Diagio-slash-Guinness. Um, These facilities over at the Halethorpe MARC Station in what they're calling Relay just outside Baltimore on our side of things. Guinness and Diagio announced that they were going to close up shop on this hundred-hectiliter system that was brewing the Guinness Baltimore Blonde, which had really obviously tied itself to Maryland and the Maryland flag.

[00:17:27] MIke: We don't know what's going to happen, uh, short of Heavy Seas becoming Maryland's largest brewer. But what I think is really fascinating is that five years ago, ex-Maryland Governor Larry Hogan, said "Maryland's open for business." He said 200 jobs are coming to [00:17:44] Baltimore County.

[00:17:45] Well, now we know there's something like 97 jobs being lost via Diagio, the parent company that owns Guinness.

[00:17:53] So really we're down to about a hundred jobs. In five years. So it's really a walking back of the promise that the ex-governor said, we know there's a bunch of Maryland brewers who were upset. They felt like, uh, Diagio Guinness specifically had the red carpet rolled out for them, uh, with some legislation, uh, taking place.

[00:18:13] But really, The biggest blow for us is, you know, 97 people out of a job. Uh, 97 people that were Diagio employees making Baltimore Blonde. And there's been some talk in the, uh, Maryland legislation. Uh, one person was offering up $500,000 to keep Baltimore Blonde in. Maryland, uh, Heavy Seas said, we'll do that.

[00:18:37] We're up for the job. But a friend of DC Beer Media, Dave Enfante, the author of the Fingers Newsletter, had a [00:18:44] really funny take, which was like, seems weird to throw $500,000 to keep 97 jobs that ultimately have been, you know, classified unnecessary. Like, what are we do in Maryland?

[00:18:55] So check on your favorite Maryland brewers, especially those local to us in DC and keep Maryland beer alive. You know, the, the Brewers Association of Maryland is doing a bang up job, and it's certainly not on them that Diageo decided to leave or Flying Dog decided to leave.

[00:19:10] But check on your Maryland Brewery friends, friends.

[00:19:13] Jacob: And I do want to keep it Maryland here just for a minute as we talk about upcoming events. Uh, Denizens is gonna do their monthly open house in Riverdale Park. They'll pop some bottles um, some rare stuff from the cellar. It'll be really cool.

[00:19:28] Uh, it's not an event, but it is a Maryland brewery: this is your last week for Astrolab before they shut down and before Third Hill comes in. Looking at like a mid-June opening there. We know they're gonna keep a couple of the recipes around and you'll still see Fresh [00:19:44] As and that's great. But obviously our best to Matt and Emma and the Astrolab team as well.

[00:19:49] Brandy: We love you, Emma and Matt and everybody, and I know all the regulars are really bummed, but excited. Uh, To see what's coming up. But , like Jake said, this is the last weekend. They are going to be open on Memorial Day. So they have, they're, they're extending their hours so you can squeeze your last little bit of Astrolab love in. So check out their social media. They posted their updated hours until the last day, which is Memorial Day. So cheers to you guys. Love you.

[00:20:19] MIke: Yeah. Um, And once you're done celebrating with Astrolab, check out some other spots around town. We know that there is the Oud Beersel Lambic Tasting with Master Blender Gert Christiaens at The Sovereign on May 31st. So right before June starts, Oud Beersel, one of one of my favorite Lambics, uh, from Belgium [00:20:44] also coming down the pike.

[00:20:45] On June 1st. Coven Brewing at Churchkey. Uh, Coven Brewing. Very excited to welcome them to DC on June 1st. Also at Churchkey on June 8th. Uh, we'll see Untold Brewing. Untold Brewing, I believe, making their DC debut June 8th at Churchkey. Before June 8th at Churchkey, June 2nd, DC Brau is having their open mic night.

[00:21:09] So June 2nd at 7:00 PM open mic night, DC Brau on Bladensburg Road. Uh, the district's oldest production brewery. Always a good time at open mic night. What else is going on as we close out May?

[00:21:24] Brandy: I mean, I'm, I'm really looking forward to June. It's always a fun month. Uh, we've had amazing weather, so I hope that that continues. But speaking of DC Brau one of the, uh, lovely people over at Brow filled out our beer release form. So shout out to Brau woo woo.

[00:21:41] Jacob: Hey.

[00:21:42] Brandy: And

[00:21:42] MIke: Oh yeah.

[00:21:43] Brandy: [00:21:44] is for June?

[00:21:45] It's the sixth annual Pride Pills collaboration with Red Bear. This year. It's a 4.5 abv Pilsner. I'm super excited, uh, and the proceeds are going to, uh, help benefit the Washington Blade and SMYAL. Uh, so yeah, j go check that out.

[00:22:06] And I'm looking forward as always, to our beer shares.

[00:22:11] We just had our last beer share at Right Proper love everybody that came. And, uh, the fine folks at Bluejacket have uh, offered to host us. So, June, the beer share will be at Bluejacket, which is really freaking cool. So make sure you check out, uh, dcbeer.com.

[00:22:30] Sign up for our newsletter so you can find out how to RSVP for that.

[00:22:34] Jacob: And I can give you three reasons why you should show up, and each of those reasons is a leader of Sierra Nevada Celebration, a [00:22:44] Jeroboam procured by one Mike Stein.

[00:22:48] Keeping it ballpark. Navy Yard. The Brewer's Ball is gonna be Friday, June 9th at The Wharf. It is now June's only beer fest down there on the waterfront because there's no more SAVOR. But don't worry, there'll still be Snallygaster and you should stay tuned to watch our space for that.

[00:23:10] We also wanna shout out the day after that is Wheatland Springs Land Beer Fest. And so I think you'll see a fair amount of DC beer folks doing a little road tripping out

[00:23:19] Brandy: definitely will. You're gonna see some of the Women's Brew Culture Club and all of us DC Beer folks. I'm pretty sure we're all going as far as I know. So I wanna shout out Bonnie, uh, for being so awesome out at Wheatland Spring.

[00:23:32] Hello, big shout out to all of our Patreon members, Bill DeBaun, Justin Broady, Bill Butcher, and Thor Cheston. You should be a DC Beer member as well. You get lots of [00:23:44] awesome perks. Uh, so go to dcbeer.com, check it out, how to be our Patreon member.

[00:23:48] Jacob: Some of those perks are provided by the good people at the Arlington Brew Shop. Julie and Beth.

[00:23:54] Brandy: These two wonderful women are the masterminds behind the Brew Shop in Arlington, Virginia. Welcome, Julie and Beth to the DC Beer Show.

[00:24:04] Julie: Hey, Brandy

[00:24:05] Beth: Hi

[00:24:05] Brandy.

[00:24:05] Brandy: I was gonna let you both kick this off by telling our listeners about the brew shop and how you both got into the beer, beer, retail world.

[00:24:14] Julie: I'm Julie. Beth and I met at our, our old job. We were both litigation consultants, we're both CPAs, accountant, accountants, by trade. Um, we, our offices were next door to each other at the firm that we worked at. Uh, we bonded over home brewing.

[00:24:31] Initially we would do quad brew days where our husbands would brew. We would brew. So we'd have usually four different brews going at once in generally your backyard, Beth, um, we would, your dog would be there. We have the [00:24:44] brew dog. Uh, all of that. So we bonded over home brewing and I think we just were sitting around drinking too much at one point and said, "You know what? We should open a home brew shop in Arlington," and joked about it for a very long time, and then started sort of looking into it and started, you know what, let's, let's think about this.

[00:25:01] So it's, the idea started as home brewing, but once we got in and started doing market research, we looked and said, you know what, there's no bottle shop on the corridor, like the Rosslyn-to-Ballston corridor.

[00:25:12] Um, similarly, there's really no wine store on the Rosslyn-to-Ballston corridor.

[00:25:17] Um, at that time, either you could go to grocery stores, you could go to, we did have someone tell us they were buying their wine at CVS before we opened . Um, so we were certainly meeting in need when we opened. Um, but we did, yeah.

[00:25:31] So we, once we got going on market research and, and realized like, Hey, this is, we should turn this into more than just a home brew shop. This should be of a space for all things brew, beer, wine, home, brew, you know, the whole, the whole thing. And I joke to [00:25:44] people, Our husbands were home brewers first, and then they got us into it.

[00:25:48] So I now joke with people like, be careful what you get your wife into because she might steal your hobby and then turn it into her job.

[00:25:55] Brandy: uh, how long did you guys toil over this? You know, how long did you joke about it and talk about it?

[00:26:01] Beth: It had to be at least a couple And yeah, because once we, well, we thought about it and then the process of putting together a business plan, finding space, building the space, permitting, all of that took forever. Um, so, If you look at our logo, it says established 2015, but we opened in 2016, January, 2016.

[00:26:28] Brandy: I assumed you had the retail shop mostly and then the home brew equipment because, I, that's just usually how it goes.

[00:26:38] So I know that Three Stars was really the only local brewery to sell home brew essentials, [00:26:44] you know, hops and equipment and stuff.

[00:26:45] H how long did you sell the home brew supplies before you actually brought in the, like the beer,

[00:26:50] Beth: It all happened at once. So when we opened on day one, we had all three home brew supplies, package beer, draft beer for growler and crowler fills, and then wine. So we wanted to be sort of the place where you would go to buy a beer to drink while you're making a beer. Um, because no one wants to make beer sober, right?

[00:27:13] wanna drink a beer while you're making beer. So, It all happened at once and you brought up a great point, Brandy. Um, it's funny because one of the main hurdles that we had when opening, especially from the Home Brew Supply, was convincing the, our home brew partners that there was a need in this area for another home brew shop.

[00:27:33] obviously there is because, you know, The existing shops weren't metro accessible. And Arlington itself has a huge home brew community. Um, [00:27:44] we work a lot with DC home brewers, but we also have GRIST, which meets right down the street from, from where our shop is. So there's a lively home brew community, uh, in Arlington

[00:27:53] Brandy: I was actually gonna ask, do you see a lot of DC Home Brew Home brewers coming to you in Arlington

[00:28:00] Beth: Yes. And we have people that drive from so far away to come to our store specifically home brew supplies cuz they're really, yeah. Like people, people say they drive, some people drive over an hour to, to come to our store, which is, you know, kind of crazy to me.

[00:28:15] Brandy: I know that having a business is a lot of work and folks usually ask what the hardest part of their job is. I'm curious what you both say is your favorite aspect of, of owning the the brew shop.

[00:28:29] Julie: I mean for me, uh, and I did this today, uh, it's in the middle of an ordering day, so it's like a heavy paperwork day. Um, But I got to just sit around and talk about beer with several people. Just people come in and there's a particular beer [00:28:44] that they like or are passionate about that we do or don't have, and we just kind of down the rabbit hole on it.

[00:28:49] And a lot of, a lot of home brewers especially love to chat about beer and what's behind it and what's

[00:28:53] Brandy: much so

[00:28:54] Julie: people who don't home brew. Yeah. People who don't home brew though are really into it as well. Like the, with the way beer is marketed now, and this has been a change, I think from when we first opened to now.

[00:29:05] Where almost every beer will have on the can, what hops are in the beer, they might have a little bit about the grist that's in the beer. Like there's a lot of information and so people who don't home brew still know a lot about it and they'll know like, oh yeah, I like Nelson Hops. Or you know, I, I like that yeast, or things like this.

[00:29:22] So to just kind of like sit around and shoot the shit about beer, I think is my favorite part of the job. And I did it several times today, , which is great, especially on a heavy paperwork day where I feel like I'm a little bit trapped in the computer.

[00:29:34] Brandy: Everyone in the beer. Community, it's just so inviting. Like, hey, try this beer . So I, I definitely see that, you know, you get a lot of people coming in wanting to shoot the shit, which [00:29:44] is funny cuz you guys do not serve beer.

[00:29:47] Correct?

[00:29:48] Beth: Correct.

[00:29:48] It's a major rabbit hole with Virginia ABC law that that really just does not allow

[00:29:53] Julie: we do, we do tastings. So we have like the sample pores and we, since we have draft lines as well for growlers and crowlers, we do allow people to sample off of the draft lines. So there's a little bit of sort of tasting kind

[00:30:05] Brandy: Yeah, that, that makes sense. I wanted to, to mention, That it's the same setup as as Craft Beer Cellar in DC. And you know, I, I love Erica and Erica's doing the, the DC Beer Community justice. And I think it's, it's funny because both of the best bottle shops, uh, in the area are owned by women.

[00:30:30] And when I was on the panel with Erica talking about women in the industry, you know, she says she gets, so many customers come in and just assume she doesn't know anything because she's a woman. Do you both, do you experience that? You're [00:30:44] like, Hey, can I talk to the owner here and like, oh, that's me. Does that happen to you guys?

[00:30:48] Beth: Yes definitely

[00:30:49] happens. It happens. It happens with customers. It also happens with beer reps, which I think is, is even more I'm sure. Erica, you know, first off we're, we have so much respect and appreciation for Erica and we send people to her store all the time because we. We carry different things, um, because of the wonderful laws in DC and Virginia.

[00:31:13] But yes, it does happen. Um, and it, and all I can really say is that it's, it's disappointing and I hope people are learning that, uh, you know, women can be knowledgeable about beer and home brewing too. I actually think it's probably worse on the home brewing side than it is the, the straight beer drinking side.

[00:31:32] I don't know if you agree with me, Julie.

[00:31:34] Julie: Yeah, I mean it's um, , it's been going on, you know, since we opened. It happens every so often. It certainly happens less now than it did because people [00:31:44] know us. So if people come in and they know who we are and they know, and they even know our palates, they know, you know, oh, I'm looking for a porter. Let me talk to Julie

[00:31:51] You know, like, um, so it happens less on the customer side than it did, but it certainly still happens. Um, and yeah, like you say, on the supplier side, , it's absolutely still there. Um, you know, we, we have tried very hard to, and I think I was telling one of our employees about this, you know, sort of ask like how the distributor relationships work.

[00:32:11] And so we, I'm not gonna pretend that we have come in and, you know, broken down or dismantled the boys club in any way, but I think we've gotten into it. We can sit at the table with the boys sometimes now, which is one way to look at it. Um, But yeah, I would say my disappointment is stronger for that happening on the supplier side.

[00:32:32] Brandy: I've recently just met you, despite you being well known in the beer community. I don't really venture into Virginia very often, so, uh, but I, I happen to meet you at. A really great, uh, beer event in DC [00:32:44] and it's just, I, I've noticed that more women are showing up and, and I appreciate both of you for, you know, being strong.

[00:32:52] Role models, I guess is is the word I wanna say, for women in the beer community so, um, I've been totally g gung-ho and into it, uh, especially with the new women's group. And everyone's just so excited about meeting other women are influential in the beer community, and I love that.

[00:33:10] I have some questions for you, from Mike Stein. Mike asks some very specific beer questions, so Mike Stein wants to know what surprises you both in terms of what beer sells and what doesn't. What styles do you wish sold better?

[00:33:25] How do you decide what to sell?

[00:33:27] Beth: What beer sells the most. I think we are the first to see changes and shifts in styles. So right now, the most, one of the most demanded styles is a west coast i p a, uh, so we can finally feel the shift happening on the IPA [00:33:44] front. Loggers are also super hot right now. . Um, and I think that's thanks to people like Wheatland, Land Made, Shilling, um, they're making it a cool kid's beer with so many nuances.

[00:33:57] So I think those are the things that people are most interested in right now. However, of course we're still selling tons of hazy IPAs but I think people are, are dialing back just a little bit on that front.

[00:34:11] Julie: Yeah. I don't know that I would say I'm surprised at how, well, I probably would've said it five years ago, how well loggers are doing right now. It's a thing that five years ago, everyone in the beer industry was waiting for people to get into. You know when you'd ask like, what do you hope is coming?

[00:34:23] Everyone's lagers. Lagers. I hope lagers are gonna be the next hit. And we're finally there. I think we. Sell a ton of lagers. And like Beth was saying, it's due to some really cool breweries and many of them local too, that are making excellent lagers that just like you said, they have a nuance.

[00:34:38] Like I'm drinking one right now. You know, that it's, they're all different. It's not like, oh, all lagers stays the same. You know, that's a, [00:34:44] a preconceived notion that people may have had even as little as five years ago that has been broken down. Um, so that's one of my favorite, like, I love that. That is what's happening.

[00:34:54] Beth: also say that we sell more like wheat, beer and more seasonal beer every year than I could ever imagine. Um, we are very much in neighborhood shops, so we have lots of cool kid beers. We have lots of the latest releases and, um, , all of that. But, but we are first and foremost to shop for a neighborhood.

[00:35:17] Um, and so those are wheat beers, you know, like your Port City Optimal Wit tons and tons of it. It's a fantastic solid, you know, year round beer that always scratches the itch for people. always shocks me when I see how much we sell every single week.

[00:35:33] Julie: I mean, it only has like what, six GABF metals, you know? It's a

[00:35:36] Beth: Yeah, I would say

[00:35:38] Julie: It's fantastic beer.

[00:35:40] Brandy: you kind of answered a bunch of the other questions. So that Mike [00:35:44] had, um, uh, which, which beer would you, would you wish sold more? Like the what style specifically? That, that uc doesn't really

[00:35:53] Julie: On a personal

[00:35:53] Brandy: off the shelves.

[00:35:55] Julie: more, more porters always for me. Like I

[00:35:58] Brandy: Why? Why is that? But

[00:35:59] Julie: can't drink enough Porters . So I, I mean, they make fun of me all summer. It'll be 95 degrees in humid and I'm still drinking a porter. Um, but I want that like five or 6% a B v roasty like. Full body, even though low abb, uh, and I love to just try as many as I can.

[00:36:16] So I would say Porter because on a personal level, I just want more available

[00:36:20] Brandy: I love that. Beth laugh when you, when you answered

[00:36:23] Beth: Because it's so true, and Julie will even take like a porter in the shower, like as in her shower. Beer is a porter, which just makes zero sense to me. It stifling and

[00:36:33] Brandy: I mean, that sounds kind of fun to me.

[00:36:35] Julie: be a shower, beer, You just get done playing a soccer game. It does anything. Can be a shower. Beer

[00:36:40] Brandy: you could just, you know, drink a smoke beer in the shower and feel like you're in a [00:36:44] cedar sauna.

[00:36:44] Julie: You can. There you go. Yeah, I like it.

[00:36:47] Brandy: Um, so I ask, uh, well, you've already answered this question, Julie. Um, before we, we bid ado, uh, I ask all the guests this, what is your personal favorite kind of beer?

[00:37:00] Julie: Oh yeah, probably Porters. I think I, I've drank a lot of lagers too, so I had a hard debate with myself on what to drink during this podcast. I did end up with a lager instead of

[00:37:10] Brandy: what are you drinking? I usually ask that

[00:37:12] Julie: oh, yeah, I'm drinking the, the Crooked Run Alora, which is a, Um, Italian pills that I thought was only gonna be at their new Crooked Run location that's in DC. They were brewing it down there. And when I went to the, the opening, I talked to Jake and was like, this is fantastic. I had never had it before. And he said, yeah, we're just brewing it for this location. And somewhere along the way, a little snuck into distribution like two weeks ago. And so I got my hands on it.

[00:37:36] Of course. .

[00:37:37] Brandy: Uh, Beth, are you having an alcohol right now?

[00:37:39] Beth: Oh, I am most certainly having an alcohol right now. . [00:37:44] Um, my personal favorite style is Octoberfest, which I feel like should be brewed year round and I keep saying it. Octoberfest all day every day. I look forward to August when they roll around. Um, I am currently drinking Vasen's, Mexican lager.

[00:38:02] so

[00:38:02] Brandy: So good

[00:38:04] Beth: Yes, just enough malt and then a little bit of, uh, little bit of lime and a little bit of salt.

[00:38:09] Brandy: Before we say goodbye, I want you to tell the listeners, um, that about like your weekly tastings and what to expect and where you guys are located.

[00:38:19] Beth: We are located at 2004 Wilson Boulevard in the courthouse neighborhood. Just about a block from the courthouse, metro and a short walk from the Rosslyn Metro. And then we have tasting events every single Friday from 5-7, and they usually feature, um, different breweries, sometimes, uh, wine, but mostly breweries.

[00:38:40] This coming Friday, we have Sierra Nevada [00:38:44] who's after that. Julie, you have the calendar memorized.

[00:38:47] Julie: craft Cider. And then we've got Ocelot coming in. Phil Runco is gonna come

[00:38:51] Brandy: that's awesome.

[00:38:52] Julie: uh, in the middle of June. Yeah, we're excited to see him. Yeah.

[00:38:55] Brandy: Thanks for coming on and I hope to see you at all the DC beer events

[00:39:00] Julie: See you at

[00:39:00] Brandy: Yeah, yeah. I'll see you. I'm excited.

[00:39:04] Julie: Yeah.

[00:39:04] Beth: All right. Thanks

[00:39:05] Brandy: Cheers.

[00:39:06] MIke: We love the Arlington Brew Shop. The brew shop owners are some of my favoritest people selling me beer, wine, and cider. Fine cider in Arlington.

[00:39:17] Jacob: Thank you Julie. Thank you Beth. Everybody. Arlington Brew Shop, they sell singles in case you can want to try something before you walk out with a six pack. They met. I also sell you. Multiple cases of really good beer. Anyway, they pack like a lot of punch into that space. Definitely worth checking out.

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[00:40:25] Brandy: That was a good one. Woo. Well done, sir. That was good.