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These powerful interviews share the transformation of our brothers. They have sacrificed, worked extremely hard, and are ripped AF! You won’t want to miss a single episode.
Rob Hale: I was always
wanting to blend in.
I always had the concave
chest at the swimming pool.
I was always.
wanting to just look like everybody else.
And I think that conditioned me to
a point where I was always concerned
about what everyone thought of me.
I was always aware of what I thought I was
perceiving other people to think of me.
Um, and so that kind of bled into
adulthood for me and, um, where I
was wanting to meet with trainers.
I was, um, pushing with, you
know, I was wanting to gain weight
as paying for paying a couple
thousand dollars for trainers to
meet with me every, every week.
And, um, they didn't do a great job,
but, but also my, my, my why was off too.
I was always, I was wanting
to do it for other people.
I was wanting to kind of, again, blend in.
I was wanting to, you know, gain the
weight, you know, people would tell
me, You know, why, why don't you
eat more cheeseburgers or something?
And, you know, I, just those little
comments, you know, they always, they
just piled up and, um, kind of going
through this and we talked earlier
about just gaining more confidence.
Um, I realized that I didn't care about
what other people thought of me anymore.
And like, oh, it's just such
a weight off my shoulders.
Kyle Carnohan: Welcome to the Superhuman
Father's Transformation Podcast.
If you're listening to this, you're
about to witness some of the most
incredible transformations that have
ever happened on the planet, and just
by listening to this, you will be
inspired to have your own transformation.
If you're listening to this for the
first time, or you're one of the brothers
in the brotherhood, go leave a review
on the podcast and let the brother or
member know how amazing they did and
how incredible their transformation was.
I'm Kyle Carnahan, founder of
Superhuman Fathers, and not only
am I gonna change your life, I'm
gonna get you ripped as fuck.
Ryan Carnohan: I can't tell you guys
how exciting this is for me and not.
Just this concept of suffering, like I
was talking in this last call with the
other guys, and we were talking about
suffering, or more I was, because you know
me, I just go on these rants, I feel like
people are talking to me, but I really
am just like ranting, but, like, dude,
you're, the weakness that you have, the
depth of your weakness, wherever it is,
the deeper it is, I don't care what it is,
I think in the other call I was talking,
it could be food issue, could be alcohol,
could be just being lazy, just sitting on
the couch, could be that you're irritated
all the time and an asshole, whatever
the selfishness is, the deeper that you
have the selfishness, the scarier it is,
where you're like, I can't, there's no
way I can get out of this, is actually,
you have proportionally, as deep as
you've gone in that, the same direction
outside of it, Proportionally the amount
of impact you can provide the world.
I believe this man.
So if you're here because there's
just something that was so hard to
deal with, or you feel like there's
something you can't get ahold of, there's
so many men that feel the same way.
And when you do conquer it,
you're going to inspire them.
And so as we come into this zoom call, we
have one of our brothers who has reached
what we call day one, his transformation
day, and this is what he's done for us.
And so, there's mad respect for
this moment because this requires
massive meaning, massive selflessness
to be able to attain this.
Those of you that are in the Warrior
Monk group, there's some of us that
you know, and you know who you are.
We've been there a while, right?
It's that one last, like, just let go.
And the only way to attain that,
I believe, is to recognize your
impact because it is so difficult.
And...
I would like, well, Kyle's here.
What's up, Kai?
You got any words on this
before we talk to Rob, Kai?
Kyle Carnohan: Yeah, I've got some
business I have to attend to, but
I didn't want to miss just saying,
Rob Hale: uh,
Kyle Carnohan: to, uh, to Rob
Hill, um, thank you so much.
for your dedication, sacrifice that you've
made, the proof to the men of what's
possible, um, and really completely going
into this with an open heart and getting
the full benefit of what it means to,
to become a warrior monk and to let go.
Willingness, the willingness.
to suffer.
See, these lessons that Rob's learned
now will, you'll hear from him.
Like every, anyone that reaches
this pinnacle right here will
speak massive truth to you.
Wisdom.
They've tapped into
something in the universe.
You'll see every single one of them.
Ryan Carnohan: And he's humble, too.
He'll be like, no, I don't know.
There'll be nuggets
that you get from this,
Kyle Carnohan: that you'll take.
We always do.
And the only reason I'm gonna say
this right now, because you have
the same damn name, and you're
both on here, is Robert Andrews,
Ryan Carnohan: his post.
Yeah, Robert got posted, too, today.
See you, Roberts!
Kyle Carnohan: You know, and I want
you guys to know, like, this is not
without massive struggle for everyone.
I mean, Robert Andrews, he
fucking died, like, during COVID.
He was in the hospital and,
like, we thought he was gone.
And that's what he accomplished.
Rob Hale, like came in here and just
like, he was just, dude, he, he just
knocked it out and he just, he just got
Ryan Carnohan: cruises.
He got the axe, he just,
Kyle Carnohan: boom, he just
chopping down that tree.
Just one little bit at a, at a time.
It was kind of a silent
assassin, really like just.
He handled his business nice and
easy, nice and slow, just like we tell
guys, don't go too
crazy, just show up every day and do
the basics, and that's what he's really
good at, and when it got really hard,
he's like, I know what I need to do
every day, like that's it, got really
good at doing the shit he didn't want
to do, when he didn't want to do it.
So thanks, Rob.
I'm gonna have to bounce.
I'm gonna listen to this later.
Um, guys, listen very intently to
these guys that make it to this place
because you will have to go through
this crucible and it will teach you
amazing things if you go through it with
the right attitude, the right mindset.
Um, you'll come out the other side
and a different human and that's
really what we're trying to do here.
We're trying to kill our old self, man.
Trying to murder that weak bastard.
And then even when you get
to day one, we're gonna
do
the same thing.
It's just day
Ryan Carnohan: one.
He's still, he's gotten stronger.
Kyle Carnohan: Wait, so this Rob, this
Rob Hale that you see right here, this
epic human, we're gonna kill him next.
2024, he's gonna look back
at his job and be like,
damn.
That guy
was a pussy.
Yeah, that
Rob Hale: guy was a pussy.
Exactly.
And the
de
Kyle Carnohan: pussification continues.
For all of us, you
know, so thank you, bro.
I'm gonna bounce out of here.
Uh, you guys enjoy.
Rob Hale: Talk soon.
Thanks, Kyle.
Appreciate it.
Ryan Carnohan: I remember when
I sent Kyle your picture, Rob
Hale, and he was like, what?
I mean, he'd seen it happening,
but he was like, oh my gosh.
He's like, can I post them right now?
I'm like, well, hang on.
We're going to push him just a
little bit more because we're mean.
It's like you're there and it's like,
we'll do one more week, maybe, you
know, so, okay, this, I know I sent
you some questions, but just the way
Kyle opened that there, and I want
you to introduce yourself in a moment.
But I just want you to think as
you're going through this process,
were there doubts along the way?
And if there were, which, you know, I
think we all have them, because we get
that if there were, what were they?
And how, how did you
overcome those doubts?
And I know this is out of order, or maybe
I didn't even prep you for this one.
But I want you to think
about that for a second.
You know, was there doubt ever?
And if so, how'd you overcome it?
Oh,
Rob Hale: absolutely.
You know, you talk about the resistance,
and you know, you feel those doubts
multiple times a week, I feel, and
Um, I, I feel like in the beginning
I'd kind of gotten to a rhythm.
Um, I think I'd been going
for about a month and a half.
You know, kind of enough to get
into a routine and all that.
And that's about when our family was
scheduled to go on our, our ten, ten
day Disneyland or Disney World cruise.
Ryan Carnohan: You signed
up like right before this.
That's hilarious.
And I
Rob Hale: was, I was like, there's no way.
There's no way that I can.
You know, be the present dad and
be on this vacation and still kind
of be hitting these other goals
and, um, like, okay, what, what am
I, what, what are we going to do?
What are we, how am I
going to prep for this?
And, you know, I studied, I looked up,
like, foods that I might be eating,
and, you know, made a plan to go grab
a bunch of protein shakes before we
got on the boat, and stuff like that,
and took You know, bands and stuff so
I could make sure I get my workouts
and, um, I got on the boat and realized
that, you know, I don't have access to
the Wi Fi, I didn't have access to the
Superhuman Fathers app, my workouts, you
know, MyFitnessPal, all that was gone.
So I was like, oh crap, like, you
know, what am I, what have I done?
Like, I'm, I've kind of sabotaged
myself, but, you know, I just learned
to kind of trust myself, trust those
things that I had been learning, and...
You know, not like, throw in the towel,
not give up, and kind of going through
that with the seven day cruise, you
know, obviously we had fun, a lot of
food, a lot of food temptation and stuff
like that, but, um, in the end, we,
you know, I weighed myself afterwards,
I had lost three pounds somehow,
um, but just kind of, on the cruise,
Ryan Carnohan: on the
Rob Hale: cruise, but that, that kind of
taught me You know, that was kind of one
of my earlier obstacles taught me that,
um, yeah, just to trust the process, um,
and kind of taught me to, um, you know,
the, the day to day, you know, small,
small, simple things, you know, kind of
checking in, checking in with myself.
How am I doing on, on my macros?
How are we doing on workouts?
How, how am I being doing with
being present with my family?
You know, all of that, like
all those small, simple things
like they add up quick and.
That's kind of what gets you places.
Ryan Carnohan: Yeah, there's a moment.
They add up to this moment.
Maybe you had yours early.
I mean, it always comes back.
But there, there will be this moment
where you're like, there's no way
I'm gonna fall through on this.
And you do.
Right.
And you're like, I am a new man.
You know, I know you've
heard the story of mine.
I think, Rob, when my dog died, right?
Like, we were in the park
and my dog just died.
Like, my dog just died.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I was like,
looking at her, and I, I...
I was, and the first thing that
came to my mind, and this sounds
cold, but I cried like a baby.
was like, I'm, I'm still
gonna hit my macros today.
Like, I'm still gonna, I'm still
gonna hit leg day, you know?
And like, people are like,
hey, how's your day going?
I was like, fucking terrible, my dog died,
but I'm still getting leg day, you know?
And like, I knew that was, I was still
fat too, when that happened, you know?
So like, this was, this was massive.
So I really appreciate you, that
you um, I appreciate you that,
that you share that concept.
It's really important.
So, okay, before we dig deeper, Let's go
into a little bit more of your background.
So maybe you're married, you have
kids, what do you do for work?
And then the big one is, you know, why
did you pull the trigger on this program?
Where were you in your state of mind?
Where were you frustrated?
You know, what were you worried about?
What'd you, how'd you think
this was going to help you?
Rob Hale: Yeah, so I'm, I am
30, almost 39, next month,
um, married, we just had our 15th
anniversary, we have five kids, um, I had
gone to dental school, been practicing
for about 10 years, um, so at this point
in my life, or at, You know, four or five
months ago, um, before I joined, I was
at a point in my life where I'm like,
I've, I've done all these things, I've
kind of set these goals for myself and
worked towards them, and I've kind of
achieved those goals, and, you know, I
was at a point where, like, okay, what,
what now, what, what's next, and, um,
you know, I, I kind of felt like I was
the provider for the family, I was kind
of going through those cycles of watch,
Rinse repeat just kind of over and over.
Um, and I didn't really, I came
to a realization that I didn't
really have goals for myself.
Like I was just there to
make money and and that, you
know,
I kind of realized that I kind of lost
some, some self fulfillment in, in that.
So, you know, in walks, um, you know,
Chris Coppula, he's in the program.
He'd been in the program for
Ryan Carnohan: And I just realized I've
been saying his name forever wrong.
I say Kapua.
It's Kapua.
This whole time he's never corrected me.
I feel like we're best friends.
He's never corrected me.
Rob Hale: He'd been in the program.
He lost 40, 50 pounds.
He's an oral surgeon that I referred to.
He came into my office and I was
like, Oh, what, what's going on?
What, what are you doing?
And so he, he kind of got, got me
in contact with Kyle and, um, things
kind of started moving from there.
But I think the reason why it resonated
so quickly with me is just cause I.
I'd already gotten to the
point where I realized, like, I
need to start doing something.
I need to start moving and doing something
different with my life and creating
goals and working towards something.
Um, but yeah, just seeing his,
seeing his progress, um, and where,
where he was at and, you know,
that was a big example for me.
Got me on board and, and moving, but
you know, when I talked to Kyle, um, you
know, you know, it sounded, sounded good.
He, you know, he kept telling
me how I was going to suffer.
You know, he brought it up several
times in our conversation and like,
I'm sure he spoke to many of you.
Um, but I was ready to, to sign up
and, um, but you know, I told him we
were getting ready to go on vacation.
And I'm like, maybe, maybe when I
get back, maybe, you know, when it's
convenient and he's just like, no, just
do it now, just sign up now, let's go.
And I was like, Oh, I need
to get, figure out my money.
Like, no, it doesn't matter.
Just do it now.
Like, we'll figure out the money later.
Like, I need you.
I need you on signed up
in the program committed.
Like, Whoa.
So he.
He didn't really give me any excuse.
Um, so I, I jumped in.
Um, but I, speaking of excuses, I, you
know, as I started out, I realized, like,
I kinda was someone who hid behind excuses
and Kyle kind of cut through those.
Um, I really, you know, you know, talking
to you, we talked about morning wake ups.
And that was something
I did not want to do.
Um, I really liked my sleep.
I really liked getting those eight
hours, seven, eight hours, whatever.
And, you know, I always
kind of hid behind that.
Um, but I suddenly, I realized one
day, um, you know, I'm sorry that I was
so willing to give up sleep if I was
going to stay up late, watch a movie.
You know things that were comfortable
or whatever but like when it came to
something that was uncomfortable waking up
early and doing actually doing something
for myself I was like I didn't want to
do it but you know putting those like
comparisons side by side I'm like okay
okay I need to stop like hiding behind
this excuse that I just you know need
the sleep or whatever because I know
that I'm so willing to give it up on
the other side uh so that's slowly I
realized that I just Yeah, I hid behind
excuses, you know, I like those excuses.
Ryan Carnohan: And now, now that you,
you like those excuses, but then you
were able to overcome them, you start
taking the excuses from everybody else.
And so let's go into, you come
into this program, and I don't
know, maybe you can talk about what
you're expecting, but maybe you were
just expecting a fitness program.
I don't know what you were expecting, but.
And you got those results, but what
other benefits did you see or level up
did you experience as a result for the
program other than physical attributes?
Rob Hale: Sure.
Yeah, you know, yeah, the physical
was definitely my, you know, carrot.
That's what got me interested.
I had no idea what else
I was getting into.
But then suddenly there's a book club
and all this other stuff going on and,
you know, I just kind of went with it.
Um, you know, one of the things that,
um, that, you know, along with book club
and all that, you know, I got introduced
to a lot of, um, like Ed Mylett and Um,
James Cleary and a lot of those men that
have, have a lot of good things to say.
And, um, I started following
some of their podcasts too.
I'd listen to them while
I was, uh, working out.
Um, but one of the, one of the things I
realized, um, in the beginning was that
maybe I wasn't as emotionally stable or
available, um, or strong for my family.
Um, And not, not to say that that was,
I don't know, I felt like I was fine.
I was comfortable.
Um, things were, were fine.
There was no, um, but it took, it
took some time and I, I realized that
maybe I wasn't in the right spot.
Um, for example, um, this last year,
a friend of a friend, um, his wife,
she was out, um, riding her bike, you
know, downhill on this pretty steep
hill, car turned in front of her,
um, she ran into the car, and, and He
took her to the hospital and she died.
Um, she was the wife of a doctor.
Uh, the doctor worked at that hospital.
They had five or six kids.
Um, and my friend was there
with this guy, this doctor.
And, you know, the, the husband was
just kind of like, Oh, we'll be fine.
We'll be fine.
And my friend was concerned about
him because He said like, you
know, he wasn't showing emotion.
He wasn't showing, you
know, he wasn't grieving.
He wasn't, you know, processing.
Um, and I, I'd heard this story and said
something to my wife along the lines of,
you know, I could, I could relate to that.
I wouldn't necessarily want
to embrace,
embrace that or be that emotionally
vulnerable for fear of like not being
able to pick up the pieces or something.
He wanted to be strong
for your family and.
And all that.
And so my wife was a little offended.
She's like, you wouldn't cry.
You wouldn't cry if I died.
Ryan Carnohan: I think you
messaged me after this.
I don't know.
Anyway, keep going.
Anyway,
Rob Hale: um, so she was kind of
maybe a little bothered by that.
Um, but kind of comparing that, um,
you know, back with, um, you know,
I was listening to these podcasts.
Uh, there was one podcast in
particular, um, with Ed Milet.
and Ryan Holiday.
Um, if you guys haven't seen
that one, it's a really good
or listened to that one.
It's a really good one.
Um, but in it, at Ryan Holiday, he talks
about, um, you know, this big event in
his youth where, um, he was in his garage.
He was Young, less than 10, um, and he
was playing with, with some fire and
some gasoline, um, in that, you know,
the, the can of gasoline exploded, he
caught on fire, um, the whole, stopped
off the road, ran out the window, and
he went running through his house,
freaking out, um, and his, his older
brother, 17 year old brother, ran up to
him, trying to put him out, put the fire
out, brother caught on fire, And brother
had to run out, roll around, come back
in and finish putting, putting this,
uh, Ryan Holiday, um, out and just the
way they explained it, I was listening
to this, walking through the store and
like, I'm just crying, you know, tears
going down my face and I'm getting all
embarrassed and like, who's looking at me?
Like, and then I'm
realizing like, here I was,
Like, there's been a change here, like,
in going through this process, and I
don't know how or when it happened,
but, you know, I'm more emotionally
available, I'm, my emotions are, you
know, I feel stronger, in a sense,
emotionally, but still vulnerable.
Ryan Carnohan: Why do you think that
Rob Hale: is?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Um.
Yeah.
But I've, I've, I've noticed the change.
Um.
I know that I'm, you know, I'm
just emotionally, emotionally
available and I can express those
emotions and feel comfortable.
Maybe it's just, you know, a sense of
confidence, um, has come through where
I feel strong enough that I can be
vulnerable, I can be myself, and, you
know, um, and that's alright, you know,
whatever I am, whatever I have to give,
like, that's, that's enough, and I can
express that and, and be comfortable
with it, um, and, so, but, it helped
me realize, you know, going, moving
back to that, that story of, you know,
saying my wife died, like, I, I think
I have a different answer now, like,
I feel, I would feel, you know, I'm,
you know, open to being vulnerable.
I wouldn't feel like, you know, I wouldn't
feel scared to show emotion for fear of
not being able to control myself or...
Or whatever after but so,
um, to answer your question.
Yeah, I love that emotional
strength that that kind of came
through and, you know, it wasn't
something I was expecting at all.
But, you know, it came from somewhere
and I think it's just through
this process of finding myself.
Ryan Carnohan: Yeah, it's almost
like there's no need for self
protection, because you're well number
one you're not afraid to suffer.
You're not afraid to be in pain.
But you're also a much stronger man.
And so I think the mix of the two
creates a situation where you can
actually serve everybody and be
the human that you need to be.
And if your values say that you
need to express emotion and you
need to have a tear, you can, you
know, and that impacts people.
And so it's able, you're able to serve
because you're not thinking about
yourself and this is directly related to
your ability to push through that pain.
Cause it's not easy to
get to where you went.
Okay.
Other, maybe I want to
dig a little deeper.
How's that affected your relationship
with your wife so far recently?
Rob Hale: Um, no, I feel
like we're in a good place.
Um, you know, I, I feel like our
relationship's always been fairly strong.
Um, both of us are fairly level headed.
Um, but, you know, I, I would
say maybe prior, maybe both of us
were a little more comfortable.
Um, and I've come to realize that.
That's not always a good place to be,
um, where, you know, when we can be,
when we can push it, push ourselves and
be comfortable pushing ourselves, then
we can kind of support each other and
help each other work towards you know,
just knowing what her goals are and,
um, you know, being able to support
her in those and vice versa.
Um, makes it, makes a huge difference.
Ryan Carnohan: I love that.
So, okay.
Obstacles.
Let's talk, let's talk
obstacles through the program.
Um, did you encounter any?
And if so, what was the largest,
uh, obstacle you encountered
and how'd you overcome it?
Rob Hale: Um, yeah, I guess we
chatted a little bit about me getting
used to waking up early again.
Um, the cruise was a big one.
You know, this, these last four months,
you know, included Two vacations,
you know, Thanksgiving, Christmas,
Halloween, all those holidays.
It's probably not the best time to
be cutting, but we got through it.
Um, and I would say as
well, um, you know, just.
The people that I'm closest to just
kind of getting used to this new me.
That was an obstacle as well.
Um, hearing things like, you know,
you're not as fun as you used to be
or this or that, you know, I'm not.
eating the junk food like I used to,
enjoying desserts like everybody else,
um, that was kind of a weird place
to be in, um, where I felt like, hey,
I'm still here, I'm still present,
but just because I'm not doing this or
that, you know, you know, I kind of am
viewed as a different person, but, um,
I think the biggest thing with that,
the way to overcome that was just to
kind of keep being what I'm who I am.
Doing what I'm doing and being open and
vulnerable and genuine and letting people
know, hey this is why I'm doing it,
this
is, these are my reasons, this is, this
is important to me, and when people
see why you're doing it and what your,
your purpose is, that you're not just
a meathead, you're not just, Doing
this 'cause you're trying to gain some
muscle or, or whatever, but you're
wanting to improve your life and trying
to, um, max out on, on your potential.
Like, once people realize these are
the, you know, your goals, you know,
they, they, they join along the ride.
They're, they're, they're not
gonna just, you know, you're not,
you're no longer an outsider.
They want, they wanna
help and support you.
You know, get to where you want to be
and, um, you know, come along, you know,
a lot of people will come along as well.
Chris Flores: So Rob, can I touch on your,
on your holiday, your holiday stuff real
quick?
Ryan Carnohan: Yeah, go for it Chris.
Chris Flores: Like, Rob would
update me during the holidays, like,
yeah, I'm sticking to my macros.
I'm like, all right, we'll see.
And he sends me this picture,
man, and it's insane.
Like, he just keeps getting results.
It was like, literally
the week of Christmas.
So when you said that, Man
that, that shit's true dude.
And like, when you say you're, people say
you're not as fun or you're not eating
cookies, like look what you're, look at
the trade off, look what you're doing now.
You're in front of, um, 50, 60
something men inspiring us and
giving us inspiration versus a
trade off of, of satisfying someone
else's needs by you eating a cookie.
Like what's the trade off?
You know what I mean?
And now they all come to
you, but what did you do?
So, um, I'm just super impressed
man with that week, that, those two
weeks you're, you're cutting down.
And you're sending me these pictures and
they kept getting better and your macros
kept getting tighter and you just say
yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and follow the
plan and then you come to the picture.
It's like, holy crap, man.
This guy's in it.
I've been telling Ryan
like he's, he's in dude.
Something happened to this guy.
You send the pictures, you got your hat
on back where you got some swag going.
You're a new
man, dude.
Versus your before picture, you
know, you can see it in your face.
And that's the cool part.
So, um.
Yeah, I just want to jump in and say that
about the holidays for all you took away
all these guys, including my excuses.
It's the holidays, right?
Look what you did during the holidays.
So,
congrats, man.
Ryan Carnohan: Thank you.
Epic, dude.
So solid.
That impact.
So there has been that struggle where
people are like, are you sick or, you
know, or you're not any fun anymore.
Have you seen the opposite?
Have you, have you been, have you
connected with any, I mean, other
than, uh, you and Kapua, right?
Yeah.
But, um, have you, have you seen
anybody else kind of improving
their life because of your level up?
Oh, absolutely.
Um.
Other than us, I mean,
there's 50 of us right now.
I didn't really,
Rob Hale: um, maybe I wish, at
this point, I wish I would have
been maybe a little more open on...
You know, social media or whatever about,
you know, kind of some of my goals and
things I was working on, but, um, when,
when we, when we posted, um, results, I,
I posted things on, posted something on
Facebook, and I was just, I was, I almost
didn't do that even, because I was kind of
feeling like, um, You know, maybe people
don't want to see this or whatever, and
I kind of just said, like, no, I'm gonna
do this for me and just kind of, just as
kind of a checkpoint, just kind of seeing
where, where I was, where I've come, where
I've come from and how far I've come.
Um, but I was
surprised by the feedback that I got.
Just, um, you know, getting 50,
60 comments on, on that post and,
um, you know, a lot of private
messages afterwards of people asking
details and wanting to know more.
And, um, you know, there
were, you know, four.
Four, five, six people that are,
you know, serious and interested and
they've been wanting to improve their,
their own lives and, um, get, get more
involved in, uh, exercise as well.
And, um, here I was thinking like, I
don't know if he's really interested.
I'm just doing this for myself, but I was.
surprised to see, you know, they have,
people are watching, people, people
are aware, um, and then people at
work, you know, have commented, you
know, our front desk manager kind of
said something along the lines of, um,
you know, I hate that I, I hate that
I've, that, That I feel like I have to
exercise now because, because of you.
Ryan Carnohan: Let's go!
Rob Hale: But, you know, just,
just being around, just being, just
being around them and kind of them
knowing what, what we're doing.
Like, yeah, there's a lot of
people at work that are...
You know, feeling the, feeling
the push as well without you
having to say anything at all.
So, it's pretty cool.
Ryan Carnohan: That's amazing.
I love that.
Hey, Spencer's got a question for you.
I'm gonna let him ask it.
Go for it.
Spencer: Well, not so, can you hear me?
Not so much a question, but, but Rob is...
It's part of my, my journey in entering.
He said that people are watching
and I was one of those guys.
Uh, I'm in town.
I'm a dentist with Rob
and, uh, Brian Hirschbrenner
and Chris and me watching what
Rob's doing got me involved.
So for sure he was an example and I was
seeing his progress and in the process
he was going through and got me involved.
Beautiful.
Ryan Carnohan: You guys see this?
Two things I got out of
what Rob shared right now.
Number one, that fear because
there's a maybe a doubt of following
through or you're just kind of an
introvert sharing on social media.
The more eyes you get on you to
see you in a state of where you
would be a state of weakness.
The more eyes you get on you there,
and then you have the transformation,
the more impact you have.
If this really is about everybody else,
you should think about that a little bit.
You want to build accountability.
Not only in here, not from just above
from Kyle and I and Chris, not, and from
below from the new guys that are coming
from the side, from everybody in this
group, but also you can pull that trigger.
As you start, you can, you can wait until
you get close if you want, but if they
watch you, if you start posting stuff and
sharing things that you're learning out
of the zoom calls, they're getting, they
will, they will clown on you at first.
Seriously.
Uh, Rob, I don't if I ever shared
sh uh, shared this with you when
you, when you joined, but my family
giggled at me like they giggled at
me when I told them that I was gonna
do this, they're like, yeah, right.
Bye.
You know, like, I'd never
done anything like this.
And then they all asking for help
now, you know, they all want tips.
or whatever.
And so I, I can resonate
with that, Rob, so much.
And I really appreciate
you sharing.
Okay.
I got another question for you then.
Um, let's say you're, and
Isaias has a question too.
You know what?
I'll let Isaias ask his question or
comment first and then I'll ask mine.
Go for it.
Let's, we'll open it up.
Go for it.
What you got?
Isaias: Thanks, man.
Hey, man.
Thanks, man.
Hi, Rob.
How are you doing?
Thanks for your Testimony.
Oh, you said something
that, uh, led me thinking.
You said that when you first
started, you had like a month or
so where you had rhythm, right?
So you didn't feel the resistance
that Ryan has been talking about.
How do you recognize that resistance?
How does it start?
I mean, I've only been
two days in the program.
I don't feel it.
I'm all hyped up and
motivated by you guys.
But yeah, how, how, how can I.
I mean, Ryan said that the best
way that I, that I could, and Kyle
said it also in his videos and
podcasts, the best way you can,
uh,
prepare for that is anticipating, right?
Knowing that it's going to happen.
How do you, how do
you do that?
Rob Hale: How do you
recognize that resistance?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ryan Carnohan: Um, prepare for it.
Rob Hale: Yeah.
You know, I, I'd say just knowing
that it's going to happen no matter
what, um, we're going to be hitting,
you know, we know the big trials
are going to be coming, you know,
or small trials or whatever it is.
Um, and I'd say anything that's going to
pull you away from your goals, anything
that's going to, um, you know, and
sometimes it's so subtle that, um, you
don't, you don't recognize it right away.
Um, but I'd say it's important to
have those good habits in place.
Um, just things that you're, you know,
you're going to be hitting every day.
You know, those non negotiables
that they talk about.
We're hitting those non negotiables,
um, every day, you know, you can kind of
get, get through those, those obstacles.
You know, when you notice that
those things are slipping, um,
when those non negotiables, it's
a little harder to hit those.
Um, sorry, can you hear me?
My kid's being too loud.
But when you're, when you're having a
hard time hitting those, um, that's when
you need to reevaluate and, and realize,
you know, maybe there's something that
you need to be adjusting or changing.
Ryan Carnohan: Look at the
patience of the superhuman
father as he walks away from it.
His children without yelling as
they're yelling in the background.
Here's something, and this might
play into what Isaias question.
If you were to give yourself one
piece of advice, for someone who's
just starting this program, or to
yourself, what would you tell yourself?
Rob Hale: I would say, um, what I
needed to hear was just to jump in.
Just do it, just become a man of action,
what I needed, and I think I kind of
got it from Kyle, and I mentioned that
at the beginning that I just needed
someone to kind of, Push me to act.
Um, one thing that Kyle had had
mentioned, um, I think I caught it on
his Instagram, um, a couple months ago.
He said, don't be the dad
on the side of the pool.
Like be, you know, get in that cold
water, you know, play with your kids.
Um, don't be the, and that resonated
with me because I think like
the day before that I had been
sitting on the side of the pool.
So I'm like, okay, I need to
learn to be a man of action.
I need to learn to like jump in and do
stuff and not always be so cautious.
Um, and.
You know, I have a tendency to
just overthink things and, you
know, I just need to get moving,
um, and then in moving, that
helps me to just get stuff done.
Um, Ed Milet talks about maxing out
your life, um, and that, that whole
idea resonates with me as well.
You know, I don't want to, you
know, die and not feel like I've
realized who I could become.
I don't want to, you know, not realize
what my body could have accomplished
or, um, you know, what I could have done
physically, but also, um, as a person,
um, who I could have become, who I could
have served, who I could have helped.
Um, you know, Ed, my, again, with Ed
Milet, he, he talks about how he, he
believes that when he dies, that God will,
um, introduce him to the person that he
could have become his full potential.
And he's, he's always said like,
you know, I don't want that
person to be a stranger to me.
I want to have maxed out my life.
I want to have gone through and done
as much as I possibly can in this life.
Um, so, so to answer your question
that, you know, what I would tell
myself in the beginning is just
to, just to get moving, just do
something because whatever movement,
whatever I can do, uh, it's just.
another step towards, um,
you know, becoming that man
of action that I want to be.
That's
Ryan Carnohan: beautiful.
Amazing, Rob.
Hey, Emmett.
Just straight up ask him, dude.
He's got, Emmett's got, uh,
he wants some tactical advice.
I just saw the word tactical and I was
like, hell yeah, I want to get tactical.
Emmet: Speaking of the resistance, I'm
going to play church basketball right now,
so everyone who knows anything about that
knows there's lots of resistance there.
So, um, yeah, can you kind of walk me
through, so, like, body fat percentage,
like, how low did you end up having to
go on your calories and macros to kind
of hit, I just, I don't know the full
journey, I'm, you know, six weeks in,
and I just kind of anticipate, was there
also, like, foods that were your go to,
I'm already seeing certain foods, but I'm
just, you know, looking to expand that,
that I, like, always go to right there.
Ryan or others I've seen introduced.
Um, and then was there like bonus burns
or other things that you're like, okay,
when I do these things, like it helps a
ton, but you know, I lose weight or I gain
Rob Hale: muscle or whatever.
Yeah.
Um, so I started out, um,
they had me at 2000 calories.
Um, after, um, I think I was at 2000
calories for about two months, then I got
dropped to 1850 and then again to 1650.
Um, I was at 1650 for that
last month and a half.
Um, the last last three weeks, uh,
Chris had kind of changed my macros.
Um, 'cause I was 40% protein,
40% carbs, and then 20% fat.
Um, but that last three weeks, that
last push, he, he dropped me down
to 100 carbs, 100 grams of carbs,
um, that was, that was rough.
Woo!
Torture!
100 carbs, 220 grams of protein,
which was a lot, a lot of protein,
um, and then 40, uh, grams of fat.
Um, so once I got back to
that, to that position, when
I got down that low, like...
There wasn't a lot of, um, a
lot of go to foods anymore.
Like, a lot of them disappeared.
I couldn't, I couldn't have raw
oats or bananas in my shake anymore.
I just had to have straight protein.
But, but before that, you
know, I, I always wake up.
Now, um, I always try to
have a pretty loaded, pretty
loaded shake in the morning.
Um, I'll do two scoops of
protein with some skim milk.
Skim milk gives me a little extra
protein, uh, without any fat.
Um, I'll put a banana in and either a half
cup or a full cup of raw oats in there.
Um, blend it for a good minute
with some ice or else it's gross
because it gets really warm.
But so that's kind of how, how things
start out for the, for the day.
Um, usually and that'll give me,
um, you know, depending on how,
how much I put in there, seven, 800
calories with a bunch of carbs that
are good to load around the workouts.
Um, so I kind of just a
good start to the day.
Um, other than that, um, you know, I found
some zero sugar beef jerky on Amazon.
I really liked, um, so
again, no carbs on that one.
Um, but extra protein, um, there's
something called frog fuel I was
using for a little bit at the end
there, um, it's a little pouch of
protein gel because I can't do the
egg whites, you know, like Ox does.
I don't know.
But, um, and wait,
Ryan Carnohan: so you did this
whole thing without egg whites, bro?
Pretty much.
Yeah.
You guys got no excuses.
Are you kidding me?
That's my go to.
Yeah, I don't like egg whites.
Dang, let's go.
Rob Hale: So a lot of Greek yogurt, um,
chicken, you know, a lot of chicken, you
know, kind of mix up the chicken with
some salsa or, you know, change it up.
Um,
That's super helpful
Emmet: actually, thank you.
Yeah, walking through,
that's super helpful.
Was there a, were you like
trying to track your body fat
percentage, or was it all aesthetic?
Like, okay, once I have this look.
Rob Hale: Um, I, I did kind of
check, track it, um, but it was just
on my, um, uh, what do I call it?
Uh, what's my scale called?
The withing, the withing scale,
or is it a different one?
Yeah, it's called a fit,
a fit track, and so it.
You know, it's just on my scale, so
it's not super accurate, um, but it
does track, like, the changes, so I, I
knew I could rely on the changes, um,
but I think I started out at, like, oh,
it's like 16% body fat on, on that, and
once, once I was done, I was down at 7.
Um, so, I don't know if that, again,
I don't know if that was accurate, but
that's, you know, I know we dropped
about 10%, 10%, 10% on the body fat, so.
Yeah, that's
Emmet: awesome.
Congrats.
Hey, I'm gonna second
Ryan's thing on egg whites.
If you're ever tired of, like, doing
a protein shake, a cup of egg whites.
Some Applegate turkey and a fourth
cup of mozzarella cheese and you
feel like you get to eat like a king
Ryan Carnohan: after doing shakes forever.
Well, I'm
trying.
Thank you.
Thank you for
Rob Hale: helping.
Ryan Carnohan: Do you
cook your egg whites then?
Yeah, yeah.
I cook them
Emmet: salt and pepper.
I make them almost like an omelette.
Drop that turkey in there.
Um, lunchmeat turkey
because it's zero fat.
So it's just like a lot of protein.
And then, uh, the mozzarella
cheese, that fourth cup, gives
me a little bit of the fat.
And, uh, man, I feel like I get to
eat cheese for like the first time or
whatever.
Rob Hale: Well, I'll have to
experiment a little bit more.
I know I couldn't do it
raw, just the look of
Ryan Carnohan: it.
I know, I could come up.
Some guys hit it raw.
That's like the punishment.
If you get
to the end of the day and you,
you've gone over your fat,
you should, you should have to
be able to, you have to
take a couple of egg whites.
When
Emmet: you're down to 1680,
were you eating most of it?
Like, were you really trying
to spread it out during the day
or were you like loading it one
side or the other at that point?
Like what ended up being the most
satiating, like you're going to go
to bed hungry no matter what, right?
Like, unless you're like
in the car in the morning.
But, you know, so that's what I'm
assuming, at least, is like, you're just
planning on going to bed hungry, but
how did you kind of divide up your 1680?
Rob Hale: Um, I tried to have the majority
of my carbs the first half of the day.
Um, I noticed that when I
didn't, when I had, when I...
Had more of my carbs towards the end
of the day or kind of trying to catch
up on carbs at the end of the day or
right before bed or whatever, I'd wake
up just kind of feeling kind of bloated.
Um, so I would try to do it at the
beginning of the day, just knowing
that that would give me energy for my
workouts and I'd be able to kind of work
it off and kind of work through that.
Um, and then, you know, save some of that
towards, you know, for dinner, but, um,
But yeah, mostly, mostly protein, um,
would be more towards the end of the day.
And then I also had like, um,
Fresca or, um, they call it Zevia,
kind of a stevia, um, flavored or
stevia sweetened soft drinks, um,
that are zero carbs, zero calories.
You know, if I was at the end of the
day and feeling that need to like snack
on something, I'd get one of those.
Oh yeah.
PI's like,
Emmet: yeah, Perrier's like
my uh, chocolate cake now,
right.
It's like, yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Something sweet.
So makes me feel like I'm getting some,
getting something when I'm not , but
I'm just anticipating
this and prepping for it.
So thank you very much.
This is great feedback.
Ryan Carnohan: Great feedback.
Thanks.
Thanks for the questions.
We Emmett.
Thank you.
We got more John Wright.
Hit 'em.
John Wright: Rob, hey, thanks
for your, uh, sharing your story.
Um, I have, uh, another tactical question.
Um, you mentioned it earlier about
when your family and like the people
you work with and just the people
around you are questioning and
they're wondering about like your
diet, your nutrition specifically.
What is it that you, that you said to
them, and I know this is very tactical
as you probably even have to like,
you know, it's your own communication,
your own lingo with your people,
but like, I do feel like this is
helpful, um, to hear other people's
when they say, well, this is what,
this is kind of how I addressed it.
So what did you say specifically to
your family about, and you said you
shared, you were sharing like your, your
goals and what your ambition to be a
better You know, person, father, man.
But what did you say like to, to your
family and like the people who were,
who were going to ask those questions,
going to be like, what are you doing?
Like, what is it now that you're up to?
Right.
Rob Hale: Sure.
You know, my, with my kids being
young, uh, my oldest is 11, 11.
11 year old boy, um, 10 year
old, um, boy and girl twins, and
5 year old boy and girl twins.
And, um, you know, my wife
didn't want them to feel like an
unhealthy relationship with food.
Didn't want them to feel like, you know,
at their ages, you know, because she
felt like, you know, hey, he's being...
You're being a little intense here.
And she doesn't want me to
get them feeling like, yeah,
you know, I need, I need to be
watching what I, what I'm eating.
But, um, so as far as
they're watching us, right.
Exactly.
And so, you know, my son, he,
he knows that I'm pushing for,
you know, protein or whatever.
And so I, for at least for my kids,
I've just kind of taught them what
the difference is between, you
know, proteins and carbs and fats.
And how to, how to watch for
those and look at nutrition
labels and stuff like that.
So, so that's, that's different.
But, um, I mean, I don't
know if that's what you're
John Wright: asking about.
Family and the people that you like that
you work with that you see all the time.
Right.
Cause they're just, you know,
they're just like, Oh, you're
not eating sweets anymore.
Oh, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're
down in shakes now instead of snacks.
Right.
Like my, my family, we snack a lot.
So it's like, And, and, you
know, food is a big thing.
It's, you know, what I've learned
with, from my wife is that in their
family, food is how they share it.
That's how they show affection.
That's how they, you
know, it comes together.
And that's how her mother was.
She cooks for you.
Yeah, that's how she shows affection.
And so like food is always around.
Uh, there's a lot of emotion around
it, and so if you're like the only
one, you know, you're the only one
and you're like, not, not for me,
you know, dessert, not for me, right?
Like, uh, you're gonna, I'm, I'm
sure you, you, you've been through
it, and you, and so, like, what did
you, what did you say, what did you
use, uh, to kind of get through that?
Rob Hale: Yeah, I think the, the
question that I hated the most
was, or, you know, some would
say, oh, you're on a diet, right?
Like, you know, cause, You know, I don't
really view it as a diet, it's just
kind of us working through and kind of
being mindful, but, um, I would just
kind of try to tell them, you know, you
know, just, I'm not on a diet, I'm not
necessarily restricting, I'm just being
more mindful of what I'm eating, um, to
kind of help, help me work through it,
you know, toward, towards these different
goals, and I won't be like this forever,
but I'm just being more mindful and
trying to, you know, avoid this and push
this and, You know, if, if people are
interested, you know, you can get into
more of the specifics, but, um, I found
that most people are just good with that.
Just, you know, hearing that I was being
mindful, but, you know, once you get
into more of the specifics, then, you
know, they're, they're interested in
doing something themselves too, but.
Yeah,
John Wright: and when you mentioned
something too earlier about your kids
and how you talked about, um, you know,
with my kids, it's like, uh, you can,
you know, you could even, you know,
I'm just thinking about how I'm having
those conversations now, and it's like,
why are two small, you know, I have a
one year old and a three year old, and
today, for example, my three year old
He grabs a bag of shredded cheese off
the counter and, um, just opens it up,
shoves his hand in there, right, pulls
out a handful of shredded cheese, shoves
it on his mouth, which, you know, half
of it just goes down his shirt onto the
ground, and, and I was thinking about it,
and I'm like, God, I wanted to be so mad
at him, but the only reason he, he did
that is because he see, he sees me, he
sees me do the same thing and my wife's
right there and she's like, she was, I
knew she was thinking what I was thinking.
She was like, he only does that
because he saw you do that.
You cannot, you cannot be mad at him.
So if you're, if you, uh, you know,
if you're talking to your family,
I'm thinking is, you know, for me.
In the future, just, you know, with those
two small kids, it's like, you know, they
see what they see, what we're doing, they
see the, uh, the habits, the, and then
like, like you said, the relationship
to food, you know, they're picking up
on that stuff now, and he's already
grabbing shredded cheese.
Ryan Carnohan: This is so good.
So in, to touch on this for a
second, because I've been meticulous
with my macros now for a while,
and I got the diet all the time.
And now no one says I'm on a diet and I'm
just as meticulous as I ever was, but now
it's just, you know, it's just the thing.
Also with kiddos, you guys will hear in
the background, if you haven't, in the
videos I send, you know, my two year old,
not even two, and if you guys were around,
if I sent you a video, if you guys gave
me a report this last weekend, My two year
old is in the background going, let's go.
Yeah.
They'll say, uh, they'll,
they'll say, you know,
get your protein, you know, and so,
but, but I do agree with Rob that
it can be scary for your wife too,
especially if they've had eating
issues in the past and ladies have
a little bit different perspective.
And so you don't want to
give them an unhealthy.
I say all, I say all, all foods
good, but I just want to make
sure I get protein for my muscles.
So I want to find foods that are
pro, all foods good, I just want
to make sure I get my protein.
Oh, I need carbs right now.
Can you guys help me find some carbs?
I need some energy.
Oh, I got, you know, I need some, my
hormones or I need some fat right now.
Where's the fat kids?
You know, and then it teaches them, but
it's also like, not, I can't eat that.
You know what I mean?
It's more like, this is what I need now.
Can you help me find this?
You know, I don't know if that makes
Rob Hale: sense.
Yeah, definitely more strategic.
I've got a 10 year old son and, you
know, he's pretty athletic and involved
and, um, kind of my shadow as well.
And when he, when he sees me
in the gym, he'll come down
there in our basement and stuff.
Um, he had seen my abs and he looked
at himself and he's like, Oh, I'm fat.
Yeah, I need to, I need to, I need
to, I need to stop eating so much.
And so it's kind of helped me realize
I'm like, okay, I need to make sure
that I'm not, you know, saying the wrong
thing or saying, you know, talking about
starving or, you know, you know, right.
I don't know.
I just, I don't want him picking
up on those negative things.
John Wright: No, I mean, that's so good
because I've, I've had, like, these sort
of very shallow conversations about, um,
you know, like, with our kids, it's like,
you know, you know how the grandparents
are, they want to just give them sweets
all the time and bring over candy and,
and, like, that's what, that's what
they want to do, and I've, I've always
been, like, sort of anti that, but I
didn't want to be without, without, you
know, this group has helped me a lot
because, It's just that relationship,
like we were just talking about, it's
just, what is, how are they going to
view that relationship with food, right?
And they're, and no matter what we tell
them, it doesn't matter because they're
going to do what they see, right?
We're modeling.
So it's like, we're actually learning,
we're, we're getting better with the
nutrition and we're, we're that example.
Whereas before, I would be like, I would
talk to my wife and I would say, You know,
maybe tell your mom not to bring over
like an entire box of doughnuts for our
three year old because it's like in the
morning, like that just, I, I don't have,
I don't know a ton of about nutrition,
but I'm pretty sure a three year old
should not be eating an entire box of
doughnuts for breakfast, like that's, and,
and, uh, but it wasn't a lot of, um, you
know, now it's, it's not so much about
the, you know, the food specific, but
more about the relationship with food.
It's like, yeah, Hey, You know, Leo's
already picking up things, right, that he
sees, and, um, you know, it's hard enough
just to get the dude to eat, you know,
in general, just to get, so, so it's like
that relationship with food is something
I'm learning a lot from this group.
That's, uh, it's super important,
right, to try to model.
Rob Hale: Yeah, and I, I learned
that, you know, when I'm...
You know, maybe not at the end of my
cut, but towards the beginning, and maybe
a little more so now that, you know,
I don't have to say no to everything.
There are some things that I can, maybe
if I feel like I can control it, I have
a bite of something, um, where I can
participate and kind of taste something
and, and whatever, I don't have to say
no to everything, but just to have, I
need to be more mindful and have control.
And I think when they see, Okay.
Hey, you know, dad didn't eat like,
you know, didn't go to town on this.
He didn't pig out on whatever.
Like he just had a little bit because
this is a sometimes food or, or
whatever, you know, you know, they,
they, they learned those things.
They pick up on it.
Ryan Carnohan: All right, we'll let,
we'll let, we'll let Griff go in a moment.
There's one thing, hey Griff, let me,
so I had a moment when I was in my
deep cut a while ago, the first one,
and I had weighed out my bagel
and my cream cheese and my bacon.
And my avocado and like I'd saved
my fat like it was on and my wife
came up and took a bite of my sandwich
Dude dude, I failed.
I failed at that moment man talking about
John Wright saying relationship I did not
think of the relationship right there.
I was an hungry angry Selfish asshole do
not be that guy I learned very quickly
now, after that I said I was so sorry,
and I made her a bagel every time I
made my bagel after that, so, just so
you know, they are watching, and do
not be an asshole with your food, man.
You just give that shit up.
Anyways, that is hilarious.
Alright, Griff, go for it.
Rob Hale: Well,
Griff Jones: first off, you
don't have to be an asshole.
You could just go
and they never ask again.
Nobody
touch my fucking bagel.
Sorry, all this food talk.
I'm just like dying up.
Rob, I had one serious question for you.
When you posted on social media, when
you posted your post on your own,
did you get any negative comments?
Either, either on it, not, not like
trolling, but like, either on it
or, or through the grapevine that
like, maybe people told your family,
like, I'm like, oh, we're concerned.
Like, you look, are you healthy?
Is that, did that happen to you?
Rob Hale: I didn't.
Um, not, I'm not on my own.
Um, but I did see, um, I think
it was on the, uh, Superhuman
Father's Instagram page.
Some, some guy got on and said like,
Oh, I can't be real or whatever.
But, you know, I, I, I kind of took
that as a compliment, you know, somebody
thought that, you know, it couldn't,
couldn't happen in four months.
I'm like, that was
pretty cool, but, right.
That's funny.
Take it, take it as fuel.
Griff Jones: Yeah.
I had a friend who was, who
takes TRTs, a mountain bike guy.
And he's like, nice TRT.
I'm like, bro, I don't put that like.
Get out of here, you know,
but I did have others.
Uh, so my, so I had my sister who's over
like obese, he told my wife on the side,
she's really worried about my health.
I'm like, I heard this later.
I'm like, and then it
all started spilling out.
And my wife was like, yeah, my other
friend who's like overweight and a bunch
of other people are like, is he okay?
Like, I'm, I'm concerned about it.
And it all comes from love.
You know, and concern.
But, um, in talking to Ryan and
Chris Flores and David DeSantos
chatting, um, it's gonna happen.
Maybe, maybe not for you.
You're stoked.
Um, but, uh, uh, it's gonna happen.
You got to get ready for it.
And it's weird because I'm
always like, I got pissed.
I was like, You're fat, like, and I want
to work on my sister and my wife asked
me to work on her friend, you know, to
help her dial in, you know, just eating
better because, you know, and they're
concerned about me and, and, and the one
thing is it will come back slowly is what
I gather from Brian and Chris and, and
David and, and I guess you just gotta,
you gotta prepare for it but, you know,
you can drown it out because you know
you're aligned and, and, and you're, and
you're feeling good and I'm like, bro.
I look really skinny and maybe like
I, I got cancer compared to like what
I looked like before, but I'm like
doing three workouts in the morning.
I'm surfing after and like, I feel great.
You know, how are you doing?
You know, kind of thing.
So, and it does come back pretty
slowly, but that's the warning I got.
Uh, so, uh, anyway, that's,
that's all I had to say.
Good job.
Ryan Carnohan: And part of it
too, is like people hate it when
you take their excuses away.
So they have to scramble.
They have to scramble.
And that goes with the close
people, people closest to you.
Like, if you, it makes them self
conscious and that's on them, not on you.
And so you just have to just,
you just have to hold the line
in a loving way, not judgmental.
Because they will, they will attack you.
But then eventually, usually from
what I've seen, um, they come around.
Rob Hale: Yeah.
One, one breakthrough.
One breakthrough that I, um,
didn't mention I'm thinking of
now, um, like growing up I was
always kind of underweight.
I was always a skinny guy.
Ryan Carnohan: Um, this is really good.
Rob Hale: And you know, I was
always wanting to blend in.
I always had the concave
chest at the swimming pool.
I was always.
wanting to just look like everybody else.
And I think that conditioned me to
a point where I was always concerned
about what everyone thought of me.
I was always aware of what I thought I was
perceiving other people to think of me.
Um, and so that kind of bled into
adulthood for me and, um, where I
was wanting to meet with trainers.
I was, um, pushing with, you
know, I was wanting to gain weight
as paying for paying a couple
thousand dollars for trainers to
meet with me every, every week.
And, um, they didn't do a great job,
but, but also my, my, my why was off too.
I was always, I was wanting
to do it for other people.
I was wanting to kind of, again, blend in.
I was wanting to, you know, gain the
weight, you know, people would tell
me, You know, why, why don't you
eat more cheeseburgers or something?
And, you know, I, just those little
comments, you know, they always, they
just piled up and, um, kind of going
through this and we talked earlier
about just gaining more confidence.
Um, I realized that I didn't care about
what other people thought of me anymore.
And like, oh, it's just such
a weight off my shoulders.
Um, something I'd carried for years
and years, um, that I was doing things
because other people, I thought.
You know, other people would want this,
or, you know, other people thought that
I shouldn't look a certain way, but I
knew what I was doing for myself, um,
and I knew I was in line with what I
wanted to do, and my goals were, I was
making progress towards those goals,
and so the rest was just kind of noise.
And so it didn't matter, but,
so, and it's not perfect, you know, I
always, from time to time, I'll feel,
you know, that creeping back in, but,
but I think just realizing that, you
know, I can do things for myself and
become stronger for myself, like,
that's just like a, You know, a big
weight lifted to not have to worry
about what other people think about me.
That's awesome.
Ryan Carnohan: Savage.
This is it right here.
So, we'll finish, we'll close up
with a statement, my favorite.
The currency of confidence is discipline.
And the man who's confident
is aligned with his values.
Even, or is hunting his
values in every situation.
So the fog of war comes
in, it gets in the way.
You can't remember who you are.
So you go on the search and the only
way through is through suffering.
You have to suffer until
you find them again.
And when you do, you inspire everyone else
because you're able to think selflessly.
Cause that's what you're about.
You are your elite self
to serve everyone else.
And when you are your elite self,
you're no longer thinking about yourself
because you're not worried about it.
You are who you are.
And so you don't have to prove shit.
You want to help everybody do the same.
And so if we get anything from today,
other than there's so many good messages
is Rob took that to heart and now
he has found, he didn't even realize
it per se, but it just happened.
He's more aligned when the chaos
arrives, he's, he's able to be himself.
Is there anything more special than that?
And the thing is, is it a, it's
a constant battle for our life.
We're never there.
We're never good enough at it.
Because once we pull away, then
we will, it's robbed of us.
And we, our confidence is gone
and we don't know if what we're
doing is in line with who we are.
And then the cycle begins again.
And so, this week, hunt for
your values when you can't
hear them or can't see them.
Hunt for them through actions
of suffering for your brothers
and your sisters, I guess.
But at least the brothers in
this program and your wives.
Rob!
I don't even know what to say
except thank you and I know the
feeling that you have right now.
I know exactly how it
feels and it's awesome.
So those of you, yeah, I appreciate it.
Those of you that have seen this,
he's taking your, you can do it.
Every single one of you can do
this and we'll be here to help you.
Rob will be here to help you.
Kyle Carnohan: I hope you enjoyed
this transformation from Superhuman
Fathers, and one thing I want you
to know is that anyone can do this.
Yes, even you.
Go to superhuman fathers.com and
apply for the Brotherhood right now.
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Greg Werner: And that
damn scale became my God.
So as soon as like the scale went up, I
was like, I mean, I remember just being
like, fuck you and yelling
and screaming at this scale
and like, just so pissed.
Cause like yesterday I'd crushed my
macros and the scale didn't show it.
And so now today's a blow up day.
Um, and I was attached to an outcome.
Well, what Superhuman Fathers
had gotten me into was instead
of being attached to an outcome,
is being attached to the journey.
Every single day, it's
just the systems, right?
So, we don't rise to the level of our
expectations, we fall to the level of
our systems, and so I embrace the system.
So, as soon as I realized...
You know, in, in August about
that bitchy voice, I embraced the
systems for the first time and
that's when everything changed.