Apple at 50 Years

Show Notes

The conversation delves into the evolution of AI acceleration, discussing advancements in AI chips, the efficiency of language models, and the role of AI in outer space. The conversation covered a range of topics including the future of self-driving cars, experiences with Apple products, the impact of tariffs, and geopolitical tensions. The discussion delved into the challenges of self-driving cars, concerns about safety and trust, personal experiences with Apple products, and political commentary on foreign policy decisions and tariff policies. The conversation also highlighted the impact of geopolitical tensions on public opinion.

Takeaways

• AI chip advancements
• Efficiency of language models Challenges and concerns with self-driving cars
• Impact of tariffs and taxation on consumers
• Geopolitical tensions and public opinion on foreign policy decisions

Chapters

• 00:00 The Evolution of AI Acceleration
• 35:49 The Future of Self-Driving Cars
• 42:52 Riding in a Fully Autonomous Vehicle
• 52:06 Tariffs and Taxation
• 01:05:15 Geopolitical Tensions and Foreign Policy

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Christopher Weeks AI: Hello, welcome to the Insanely Great Podcast, Episode 1, 50 Years of Apple, recorded on March 12th, 2026. Thanks for listening.

Christopher Weeks: Hello, it's another Thursday evening late in California, even later in Louisiana. I'm here with my guest favorite cohost DJ and are going to talk tech or whatever the hell we really feel like. So DJ, how was your week?

DJ: It's been good so far. Chris, how was yours?

Christopher Weeks: Not bad, not bad. know, it seems like every week we have more and more AI news, everything AI exploding. Was there anything that caught your eye?

DJ: Yeah, there was the M5 chip from Apple that's supposed to have ⁓ acceleration in it. And then there was also a Quinn 3.5 model ⁓ 9B you can run on your own GPU or your own Apple laptop that is clocking in at some of the large model performances in a very small package. What's going on with you?

Christopher Weeks: Yeah, I think I I didn't I didn't publish last week's episode and I still might we'll see but one of the things that I mentioned last week that I was listening to the guys on moonshot podcast They were talking about last week that they feel like the language models are gonna get smaller and smaller and more efficient and Be able to do more and more and more you know, just through figuring out what works, knocking on things. I don't know. And they were already talking about some of the open claw models that are like iron claw and some of the other, uh, these other, um, forked models of open claw that are more efficient and, uh, more powerful. but already there's, uh, pros and cons of each of them.

DJ: Are you saying they're fine tuning them for open like working through the open calla harness?

Christopher Weeks: They're there. Well, the hosts on moonshot said that they're making them more efficient to run on less powerful CPUs and. basically were saying this is the stuff that China has been doing forever because they don't have the advanced processing ⁓ chips that we have the United States, so they've found ways to make do through higher efficient, know, coding and making.

DJ: Mm-hmm.

Christopher Weeks: algorithms work better and. So yeah, they just pointed out that this stuff is, know, gonna come to every language model, they think. And, ahead.

DJ: Well, think so too. I will say OpenAI, like the they give you faster models is by distilling the models ⁓ into forms and then serving those up. the ⁓ codecs supposed to be super fast is a CBRS model, ⁓ but it's half the size of the non-fast 5.3. you always get a trade off of speed versus intelligence and you got to find that sweet spot.

Christopher Weeks: Right, right. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think that's I think that's going to be true for awhile. know, the real question is, you know, if we're going to outer space and we're taking hell 9000 with us, what model are you going to put on that thing? The fast one that might screw up or the one that's a little slower and takes its time?

DJ: I think that's a question for Elon. He's the one right now wanting to put far more satellites than he's got for ⁓ Starlink out to put AI processing in space because he's saying, well, space, you don't have to worry about cooling because ⁓ it's You don't have to worry about electricity because you've always got the sun and these will be all like around the earth. So you got this, ⁓

Christopher Weeks: Hmm.

DJ: constant basically form of energy. And then you've got all these models up there and it'll run, you know, like we said the other day, sharded across multiple satellites. And he's saying, well, I think that this is the next move outside of Starlink.

Christopher Weeks: Right. Right. Yeah. I think I listened to his, was on the moonshot podcast about two weeks ago and he was pointing out that the only major issue is that if something goes wrong in outer space, like, meteorite fragment, the Russians decide to launch a ICBM and knock, ⁓ knock off Elon's shit. ⁓ it becomes very ⁓ expensive and to just fix. ⁓ Whereas if you have a bunch of solar panels and AI systems set up in the Mojave desert, ⁓ where it's, you know, hotter than, can be, and just running all the all day in the heat. And then something goes wrong, you just drive out to the desert and fix it.

DJ: Mm-hmm. Have you heard of this company? to look them up, but they will sell you sunlight space. You can buy it in three minute chunks. ⁓ So some talk about this technology was originally developed to run solar forms at night. don't know if that ever came into existence, but now you can, I don't know how much it is, but you can buy

Christopher Weeks: Huh. Yeah. Hmm.

DJ: three minute chunks of sunlight and they will mirror it down to, I forget, the ⁓ ⁓ the light. It's in miles and it's literally as bright as the sun.

Christopher Weeks: Huh, I wonder ⁓ they get the electricity to you then?

DJ: It's just the light.

Christopher Weeks: Okay, maybe I'm-

DJ: they're literally just reflecting the light down to earth and like con I guess kind of concentrating it like you would a yeah.

Christopher Weeks: Okay, down to you. an ant through a, not to go all third grade on us. No, I was not one of those people that was frying ants like a little psychotic kid, but we all knew people that did.

DJ: Me neither. ⁓ didn't like the bugs. ⁓ wouldn't get down there with them. No. It's why I got into computers.

Christopher Weeks: No, no bugs for you. Yeah, to get away from the bugs.

DJ: Yes.

Christopher Weeks: Speaking of computers though and not on same note, how long do you think it's before we start to see the AI systems in like the Xbox and PlayStation and ⁓ Nintendo Switch and how much do you think that is? How long do think it is before we start to see more of that in the consumer market?

DJ: So there I'm of two minds there. I think that these companies are going to try to jam it into everywhere they already have. enough, the gaming consoles are a place that's kind of sorely lacking, especially when you look at everything else there. I Someone told me that someone was putting AI in charger anchor anchors putting AI in chargers now.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah.

DJ: And I'm just sitting here thinking, is this really AI or is this just some light machine learning and they're selling it off as AI?

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. ⁓ they're, totally selling it off as AI.

DJ: And it's just odd to, well, everyone wants the AI stamp. So I would say I see Xbox coming in first and foremost on this because Microsoft just has it in the bag already.

Christopher Weeks: Well, also they've got deep ties with OpenAI as a principal chief investor. They were one of the first to jump on there and what they give them like some couple billion dollars.

DJ: Yeah, I think it was initially like $3 billion. And this was back in 2022 when it was 3.5. But to that point, you know, they have actually started rolling Anthropic models into their official M365 Copilot Enterprise Edition.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hmm, okay, so

DJ: So there's some discussion of that relationship starting this hour.

Christopher Weeks: Right with open AI, maybe they're not advancing fast enough or it's just too expensive. I think eventually we're going to reach a point where they either just burn out and fail and they get bought up by whoever's around and can afford it. Apple, Google, Microsoft. ⁓ Or I know with ⁓ everything I keep about the burn rate on these. ⁓

DJ: Mm-hmm.

Christopher Weeks: The plants that they're building for these AI data centers and the amount of power and how much money they've spent poaching employees. these, you know, all these employees are like, we're, we're, getting in while the going's hot.

DJ: Yeah, this is the research phase. If you think back to the 60s when Bell Labs was researching all that advanced stuff, this is that all over again in AI. And told I've read many books about it. ⁓ love that era. And I told myself ⁓ another one of those came along in my generation, I was going to try to be part of it. And I feel I'm doing my little part by like really

Christopher Weeks: Right. testing, beta testing it, pushing it.

DJ: Exactly testing and focusing on it and trying to find out how I can use it in engineering.

Christopher Weeks: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah That's a good point interesting you say Bell Labs I grew up in Illinois and my father worked at AT &T worked at worked at Bell Labs ⁓ No, he was more a director of engineering so he kind of helped Where products were going and he couldn't convince

DJ: In the lab.

Christopher Weeks: Actually the best way to probably put it is he tried to do the Steve Jobs model being not 100 % compatible and they thought they could get a footing in the PC market making an ⁓ AT &T that wasn't with anything.

DJ: Unix would have ruled the world.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. And it turned out, world just wasn't ready for that. And, ⁓ the, they really listen to, the consumers were buying it. And they were at the time really wanted compatible with everything. They wanted to buy a mouse. They could work with anything, you know, and I, IBM had it right. They were like, we're making 100 % compatible PCs. You buy a printer and it'll work with everything.

DJ: Mm-hmm.

Christopher Weeks: Anyway, they eventually got out of the PC business completely and my dad's job went with it.

DJ: ⁓ sorry to hear that. Yeah.

Christopher Weeks: But he was, well, no, mean, sucked. I remember he had spent like 30 years of their work in there through the seventies, eighties and nineties. yeah, was kind of funny. ⁓ when the Apple, ⁓ computers are coming out, he was like, this is a completely closed source architecture and they're doing the exact same thing we were doing. And he's like, the Mac fans are applauding it. You know, he was all, he was all like, I don't get it. Ironically, you know, you could make the argument now that the Mac is definitely not as closed as it used to be.

DJ: No, mean, I'm know, funny you say that because used to ⁓ was released Windows first, right? It was a Windows world. ⁓ And to a degree in on the consumer market side, it still is. But a lot of this ⁓ software that's coming geared around AI all comes to the Mac first. Windows is often an afterthought. ⁓ And I mean, years. ⁓

Christopher Weeks: Right. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Do you think that's because they know exactly what the hardware is?

DJ: think it's because that's what they use. That's what they use in those labs. So they're going to design it for themselves first. And then Windows is definitely not. I'll put it this way. I want to say the version of Windsurf came before the Windows version. That's saying something.

Christopher Weeks: Right. Mm-hmm. Yeah, but ironically, and I don't know if it's just due to funny or funding and but it seems like all the games come first to Windows, maybe Xbox, and then it seems like the Mac is kind of an afterthought.

DJ: Definitely. But I will say Mac, they...

Christopher Weeks: But why do you think that is?

DJ: Well, it's the it's the target market, right? Like every gamer is going to use Windows, but there is a huge update uptick to gaming because of Steam Deck. And there are actually I don't know if many people are aware of this, but a lot of games that are in the platinum category for Linux often with higher frame rates than Windows. That's how good of a job.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah, yeah. Okay.

DJ: Steam has done because Steam took the Proton project over and they have just polished that thing until it shines.

Christopher Weeks: Mm-hmm. Right, it much easier to polish that due to tools that are available than say Windows or Mac?

DJ: In terms of performance.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah, I mean, you know, they Apple likes to make a big deal about, ⁓ writing it on metal and all this stuff. But I mean, there has to be there has to be a reason why. And obviously, it's got to be more than just sure numbers.

DJ: ⁓ right. Right. It's actually a little ironic that that's happening because Proton acts as not exactly a translation layer. It's a little bit different, but you still have what most people would consider a slight overhead that you're paying there because you're not, basically trying to translate those windows calls into something that Linux can handle and then ⁓ give you

Christopher Weeks: Mm-hmm. Right.

DJ: performance and now it's starting to actually outperform Windows. And personally, I think that's because Microsoft has said, you know what, not said, but shown us that they kind of don't care about Microsoft studios or games or Xbox anymore. Look what they're doing with jumping game pass to $30 a month. They are canceling games left and right. They're moving to Unreal Engine 5. So taking all of their that they made themselves, like Flight Simulator, Gears of War, all those games, they're shifting, Halo, they're shifting them over to Unreal Engine 5. ⁓ we have all seen the that became.

Christopher Weeks: Mm-hmm. Right. I mean, you, where, do you, ⁓ mean, is that why you think that the, quote next version of Xbox is going to be looking more like a hefty PC? ⁓

DJ: think that they are aiming at the Steam box. ⁓ Sony, ⁓ I kind of feel like Sony might get

Christopher Weeks: Mm-hmm.

DJ: what you call it, side swiped here. Because, yeah, I just, they put...

Christopher Weeks: Yeah, boxed in. Wouldn't the same thing apply to Nintendo as well? Yeah.

DJ: ⁓ absolutely. As in Nintendo sealed their fate with the switch.

Christopher Weeks: In what aspect what do mean?

DJ: Well, you think about hardware wise, they've always been behind, but they don't care about that. But in terms of truly competing with where the industry is going, I think that we're starting to see that hybrid model because the next Xbox is supposed to be able to play Steam games. Steam deck or sorry, the yeah, the Steam deck and the next Steam box will be able to play

Christopher Weeks: Mm-hmm. Right.

DJ: Windows games as well as on Steam, but also I believe it's going to be able to play Game Pass games because it's basically a PC. ⁓

Christopher Weeks: Mm. Right, right. Yeah.

DJ: But poor Sony. they lost their exclusivity because most of their exclusive games are now on Steam.

Christopher Weeks: Right. But weren't they, weren't the companies giving up on the exclusivities because they were worried about lawsuits and anti-competes and monopolies and whatnot? Yeah. Blizzard, all that fun stuff. Anyway, I.

DJ: Activation, Activision Blizzard. Yeah. And you know, to be fair, they have not locked any of those games their walled garden yet, but give Microsoft time. They're waiting for people start looking away and not caring and they'll lock things up.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I always ask when I would go to GameStop, I always ask the guys there. So if I were a newbie just going to buy a system tomorrow, I don't have any games. I'm not invested in any ecosystem. What system should I buy? clockwork, they waste no time and they tell me I should buy a PS5 Pro. They're like, it's got the ⁓ specs. But then they're like, The percentage of people that are at this point in their life that aren't invested in any ecosystem is virtually nobody. You know, and, then they're like, they run into people that, ⁓ I think like yourself that own, ⁓ every console and. know, it used to be the way, ⁓ that you had to have these exclusives and that they would use those to drive people to buy consoles. Like,

DJ: Yeah. Exactly.

Christopher Weeks: If you want to play Halo, you bought Xbox, which I think is still true. I mean, how long has it been since there's been a Halo game? Who knows? An eternity.

DJ: Yeah. Yeah, the last one was infinite and it was not well received. I think that was about five years ago.

Christopher Weeks: Hmm. Wow. know, and then when I asked the guy, I'm like, all right, so tell me about the specs on the PS5 Pro and they're like, ⁓ it can play ⁓ gaming. And I was like, who's got an 8K television set and who's really dying to play ⁓ ⁓ ⁓ know, and then I looked at some of the visuals and the visuals don't look great at all.

DJ: Mm-hmm. Yeah. You know what? That's that's the thing. It's not a K. It's a K AI. You know what we were saying? Where's AI in this AI is in the uprising.

Christopher Weeks: Right. Right, it's doing the upscaling. So it's taking a 4K image and making it 8K in the hardware. ⁓

DJ: Mm-hmm. Essentially, yeah. They called it their own special thing, but it's the same thing. And FrameGen.

Christopher Weeks: Right, right. I mean, I've seen some footage of properly done 8K with Blackmagic cameras at CES and night and day. It's almost to the point of like virtual. You can't tell the difference between if you're sitting right here next to me and I forget what they were.

DJ: Mm-hmm.

Christopher Weeks: Photographers have a and videographers Alex Lindsay used to talk about this that That I think 12 K ⁓ considered telepresence meaning like we're Star Trek the next generation stuff where you can like have a video conference call and it will be like Like future total recall or Star Trek where you can't tell the difference. It's like they're right there

DJ: So it's one of those, entire wall is your screen and it is just like you're looking directly at the people. That's why.

Christopher Weeks: Yes, yes, you you I mean the resolution so high frame rate is so good The other part is the frame rate. You have to have it close to 60 frames a second, which is Like double what your eye does ⁓

DJ: Hmm. Yeah, I will say that terms of gaming, Xbox, want to say has been some games push 240, I want to say. ⁓ And they're enabling that in some, ⁓ you know, let's say they need as much performance on and they'll if you a TV that supports it, they'll actually get you up to 240.

Christopher Weeks: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay.

DJ: but who has a TV that natively supports 240 other than the frame interpolation.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah, yeah, and how's that? I mean usually beneficial if you're playing a game.

DJ: I will say this, with games where you can choose performance versus visual or whatever they call it, 30 to 60 frames a second ⁓ is and day for me. Anything beyond 60, it's hard to tell.

Christopher Weeks: Mmm. Yeah. Right, Yeah. I how big of a television set are you playing your games on at home?

DJ: I think it's 70 inches, but I sit about 20 feet from it. So it doesn't feel as large.

Christopher Weeks: Right? Right. Right, right. And what games are you playing right now on Xbox?

DJ: Diablo four, that's at play. got the new expansion pre-ordered.

Christopher Weeks: That's consuming your time.

DJ: Yeah, what little I have, yeah. That and open call.

Christopher Weeks: What little you have. Yeah. Right. Right. So I was researching today about ⁓ running OpenClaw on a paid server, ⁓ of a virtual private server, paying for bandwidth and CPU and running OpenClaw there. was kind of recommended to me rather than putting it on hardware that I depend on every day that, that it can ⁓

DJ: Mm-hmm.

Christopher Weeks: I guess the only downside is it's a little bit of a ⁓ in the keister to make to do Secure Back-and-forth tunneling ⁓ You have to set you have to set up all you what's that? Yeah, I think that was maybe what was recommended

DJ: Yeah, I would recommend tail scale. tail skill. Mm-hmm.

Christopher Weeks: But they kept going back and forth. were like, oh, it's the likelihood that you're really going to get hacked. uh, is, yeah, they're like, it's really not all that great. And, um, as long as you know, blah, blah, blah. It's just running like mind numbing stuff. If you're really not sure, don't trust it with your Google credentials or anything like that.

DJ: That's true. But Google did come out with an official MCP a week or two ago. So now you don't have to worry about getting GOG or some other binary that you don't know if you can trust or not. And you're you just OAuth to their to their MCP server.

Christopher Weeks: Mmm. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the demonstration that I was looking at where it was talking about having it hooked up with Telegram, where you can have this thing, ⁓ send you a text message of everything you've got going on for the day and, helping you get ready for a meeting or whatever and ⁓ reminders and yeah, that, that that's, ⁓ look like, looks like it.

DJ: It's exactly, exactly what I've got Telegram. me, ⁓ have it running on a virtual machine in my ⁓ network ⁓ I connect to it through scale. But the good part is once you connect it to Telegram, in theory, you could cut almost all connections off from it because Telegram is going to relay it. Yeah, exactly.

Christopher Weeks: Mmm, just use telegram to go back and forth and telegram is pretty secure back and forth right to it. Yeah.

DJ: Mm hmm. Yeah, because it because you run. It's basically running Telegram on it and it can run on Linux. So ⁓ of the you do lose a little functionality with running it on Linux.

Christopher Weeks: Hmm. Mm-hmm, right, right.

DJ: But now they have, you you mentioned VPS services. Now they have, I've seen one click installs. You just press the button, open Claw, it launches the VM, installs, it sets it up. You're good to go.

Christopher Weeks: Wow. I'm gonna have to look for that then. It's a reasonably priced. It looked like it was out the door for like about a hundred bucks for a year.

DJ: That ain't bad. Yeah, I was thinking most VPSs are cheap.

Christopher Weeks: for like, it was like, I think it was about, I wanna say it was like, don't know, I think about 100 gigs worth of storage. ⁓ yeah, yeah. you know, and then the author was like, ⁓ yeah, if you feel like you need more CPU cycles that you might ⁓ reach blah. And it was advising to set up a max credit limit.

DJ: That's more than enough. More than enough.

Christopher Weeks: on the API calls above $50. Because that puts you in a different threshold to how many you can do per hour.

DJ: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. okay. You know, my,

Christopher Weeks: If you set the limit for like 40, tells you you can only do like, this is kind of laughable. It'll tell you, you can only do like 150,000 API calls an hour. And if you set it at like $50 as the max, it tells you you can do 400,000 API calls. Yeah.

DJ: Yeah. I burn that money. My secret is you go to either z.ai or well, Kimi moonshot Kimi also has a plan. And then there's another plan from mini max. All three of those are Chinese labs. They have coding plans for roughly somewhere between 10 and $20 a month. And they the

Christopher Weeks: Mm-hmm.

DJ: average limit is about 100 messages every five hours. have used two of those plans, ZIAI and MiniMax. I've never hit the cap because ⁓ really just going back and forth kind of slowly if you think about it. ⁓ tool calls do not count against that total. So it can call all the tools it wants and you're not impacting your 100 per five hours. ⁓ you can get

Christopher Weeks: Hmm. Right.

DJ: you can get Mini-Max for $10 a month. Yeah. And then your virtual machine can be garbage, and you're relying on the API. doesn't matter.

Christopher Weeks: Wow, wow, that's pretty good. Mmm. Right, right. Well, I think that's what the guys on Moonshower talking about, why they've been able to make them more efficient. I don't know, because of the calls that they can do out. I don't know. I just, don't you think, uh, moving onto a little bit of a different subject, don't you think Apple's just waiting for somebody to get this right where they can do it efficiently? And, uh, they have a little bandaid that they bought from Google. They're like, all right, this is our stop gap until we figure out who the hell we're going to buy, or we can get employees to stop leaving us that know what the hell they're doing.

DJ: Yeah, you've got to pay well for AI right now, especially in California. Or like Mark Zuckerberg did, you have to deliver food directly to their houses.

Christopher Weeks: ⁓ goodness. I don't know that story.

DJ: Yeah, apparently he was trying to woo a couple people away from Anthropic and AI to come over to Meta. And he was literally showing up at their door with homemade food for dinner, trying to get a conversation with them to get them to come over.

Christopher Weeks: Wow.

DJ: plus paying them $400, $500,000 base on top, equity on top. They're millionaires at this point.

Christopher Weeks: Wow. Yeah, yeah, I mean, but I've heard tons of stories of Apple getting ⁓ employees and they leave after two weeks or they're deep into a project and almost done and they leave.

DJ: I will say that I think that they're, how to explain this, everything with AI research has been very open. It's ⁓ based the entire open source culture, right? Where Apple is the pole, like that culture is the polar opposite.

Christopher Weeks: Mmm.

DJ: So it's almost like the cultures clash. You get in there thinking, I'm going to do good AI work and I'm going to release this publicly. And because there's also prestige that comes with it, like you make a name for yourself, but you kind of become faceless at Apple.

Christopher Weeks: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, I think I saw an interview with the guys that sold the original to ⁓ Apple and they were about the new hooks that it's going to have with Gemini ⁓ and they were very honest and said they thought Siri should have been on. years ago that it's been lacking. And, they also had no problem with criticism, criticism saying that it's going to be tough to get modern AI hooks into Siri and for them to play nicely. And to which your consumer me just kind of says, if it doesn't work and it's an old enough technology, why don't you just scrap it?

DJ: Well, that, yeah, their comments imply that this is the same old Siri from almost 10 years ago. Like the seed of it is still almost monolithic, you would say. That's, I mean, it's always been worse than Alexa or Google.

Christopher Weeks: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. And you know now Alexa has built in ⁓ Claude stuff. So it's. Yeah, Alexa plus is. It's it is Claude. ⁓

DJ: I didn't know that. ⁓ I thought, see, I thought they ran their own models. I know they make their own models.

Christopher Weeks: No thanks, Alexa.

DJ: You

Christopher Weeks: ⁓ sorry, what were we saying?

DJ: At least it knows the time. A lot of models you talk to, they don't even know the time.

Christopher Weeks: Yes. Yeah, but I've been pretty happy with how sophisticated Alexa Plus is. One, you can actually have a. Moderately intelligent conversation back and forth with it. Just just keep going back and forth, but I'll even ask it kind of mundane questions like what are the odds of this baseball team winning this game tonight and it'll actually research it and look it up. Give it to me.

DJ: ⁓ wow.

Christopher Weeks: And I'll even ask it, uh, average three weather forecasts from three different, um, um, stations and give me the, uh, seven day forecast averaged. Um, and it'll, it'll do that. Um, yeah, this is one of the ways that they're convincing you to hold onto your prime subscription. Now that they've raised it to whatever it is, 150, 200 bucks a month.

DJ: That's pretty impressive. Yeah. I was going to say, I want to say it came with my prime subscription.

Christopher Weeks: Yes. That's the only way you can have it. Or that's not true. I think you can pay, but I think it's like 30 bucks a month or something. They try to make it like stupid expensive so that you're just going to buy prime instead.

DJ: Mmm. ⁓ Yeah. Yeah, I think prime is like 15 or 20 bucks a month. And I think that we're going to charge 20 just for Alexa plus. It's like just get good. Just get

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. Right. Yes. Right. Right. Because they want to know everything you're Yeah. And Google Gemini is good. You know, we're in an interesting phase right now where the language models are just getting better and better and and better and better. You know,

DJ: That's right, and they will.

Christopher Weeks: I don't know what it's like in Louisiana. Are you guys seeing a lot of self-driving cars or none?

DJ: zero zero. No, don't even know if regulation would allow right because a lot of the times to get these into places, new has to be passed.

Christopher Weeks: Zero. Well, actually in California, we passed, well, it started in Santa Monica, actually started in San Francisco, went to Santa Monica, now a past in San Diego, to allow, self-driving cars, robo taxis as it will, to, ⁓ operate. and they start, they started off with, constraints. They're not allowed to go on the highway.

DJ: Mm-hmm.

Christopher Weeks: They can only go within these parameters. I don't know. think they started off with like a, I don't know, 50 mile radius, or they can only work within that. ⁓ They did have an issue where ⁓ there were two issues. One where it ran over a dog ⁓ and kept going. ⁓

DJ: Mm-hmm. Hmm. Well, Kristi Noem was driving.

Christopher Weeks: The second one was, there was like a fire that was going on and the police had roped off an area and the ⁓ car went ⁓ the area, didn't stop and didn't obey police to stop and turn around. ⁓ And the department and officers were like, there's nobody in the car. ⁓

DJ: well Well, you've seen the videos of like cops pulling them over and they're like, what do I do here?

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, the good news is like, I've listened to Elon Musk talk about this and he's like, you know, he makes a joke. He's like, unlike your grandfather and his driving, robo taxis, they're going to get better with each firmware update. So, ⁓ you know, they're like, they, I forget the Arizona company that's, that's doing the, ⁓ cabs here in San Diego.

DJ: That's fair.

Christopher Weeks: But they were like, ⁓ yeah, we're going to release a firmware update. We can have the cars stop for police officers. And they were a little unsure how to do the hit a dog thing because it ⁓ registers a speed bump. And you have you can't have the cars just stop for every speed bump. So, yeah.

DJ: Well, you know what I take, okay. Elon wants his cars to be driven 100 % by vision, cameras only, because he says, well, if humans can do that, then cars will be able to learn to do that. But other self-driving cars, I think like Waymo, they have all the lidar sensors and everything else. You would think that that would be safer. And it often is because it's just it's more data. You just got to process it fast enough.

Christopher Weeks: Mm. Mm-hmm. They have LIDAR. They have LIDAR. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

DJ: But I take issue with Elon's, think it's too early for vision only, my personal take on it. ⁓ ⁓ when that Tesla drove into ⁓ side of a 18-wheeler that was turning, like the trailer was white and the sky was kind of like a ⁓ light color, so it couldn't ⁓ it and ⁓ person died.

Christopher Weeks: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

DJ: And that's when I was like, OK, there needs to be more sensors. If BMW can make an I series car that will literally not run into a brick wall. How did this happen with with Tesla?

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. Yeah. mean, personally, my opinion is I think all these systems need fail safes. so if, if LIDAR and vision together make it kind of the ultimate safe product, then I think we need to have the two of them together. ⁓ at least for, I don't know, ⁓ introductory phase to get people like on board and feeling safe with all this thing. I mean, think about it. If you have, ⁓

DJ: Mm-hmm.

Christopher Weeks: What they're in a hurry for is to get these things on the 18 wheeler trucks driving all night long without the need for insurance and paying these drivers and ⁓ going all night long. The issue I feel has become that throughout the Midwest, you know, you get winter roads in November, December, October, January, ⁓ and do you train an AI system that's driving what to do in ⁓ Wintery conditions. mean the the easy. The easy answer is. Don't go above 4550 miles an hour. But you know if you're an AI driving that thing, I guess you really don't care if it takes you 14 hours versus your long haul truck drivers like I just want the route over with.

DJ: Yeah, ice. Yeah. And, and like, they won't get tired too. There's, there's lot of pluses and minuses, but one of the things that, that I've seen too in the past is it relies on GPS as well, but not all maps are always accurate. So it has to, you have find a, I don't even want to call it a base truth because I don't think that there is a base truth with these systems because GPS can be off. I've seen it myself.

Christopher Weeks: Right. Mm-hmm.

DJ: driving in a vehicle and like your dot is not on the line as well as, know, we know vision's not 100 % there. Then you got LIDAR and radar and you try to put all those things together and you almost get this new truth between all of them, right? You almost have to them together.

Christopher Weeks: Mmm, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I've, I've listened to Elon talk about that. There's a decision that has to be made as to what overrules what as far as the priority in the data. So if you've got an 18 wheel truck that's driving down and your GPS says you're not on a map, but your vision and your LIDAR system say you are, well, you're obviously overruling the GPS then. ⁓ yes.

DJ: Right. gets you in the vicinity. ⁓

Christopher Weeks: Yes, it's a proximity.

DJ: you

Christopher Weeks: Yeah, we're definitely we're getting closer. know, my neighbor, that's a political commentator. He rode in one of the self-driving cars in Santa Monica and surprisingly wasn't freaked out about embraced it, made a joke. I guess I don't have to tip the driver, you know, doesn't need to worry about the feelings being hurt.

DJ: Throw up in the backseat, left it.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. would have been funny.

DJ: The funny part is you know what happens, right? And it's just going to go to the next destination.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. I mean, I just don't get how they, know, you'll probably get some guy that's a real asshole and is just like, you know, I'm going to tear apart this backseat or do some crazy shit. ⁓ you know, started taking a shit in the back of it or something before he gets out of the car or something, you know, there's going to be stories like that.

DJ: Yes. You One star.

Christopher Weeks: Yes, yes, yes ⁓

DJ: I will say that when I went to to Phoenix ⁓ actually Scottsdale, I did get to ride in a fully autonomous Tesla. was, that was little trippy because you're looking over and like the car is dry, literally driving itself and the person's not touching the wheel. Like it kind of ⁓ messes with mind because you've never seen that before.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. You're you're you're fully trusting it and your life is is in its hands. You know, I just think of like, all right, what if something goes faulty, doesn't work right? You know? Camera blocks out or something, you know shit happens, ⁓ picks up a pebble rock that shatters one of ⁓ the cameras the way. You know, I'm just like.

DJ: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Christopher Weeks: What's the failsafe? don't know.

DJ: I will mention that they had Waymo's there, but the wait was so long that I never could get one. I would have to schedule it almost an hour early for it to arrive on time to get me to where I needed to go. And I just never did, so I never got to ride them.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. Mm-hmm. That's crazy. So yeah, well, I think that's where their headquarters at. Yeah, yeah, so. So today's was a big deal. A lot of people are celebrating 50 years of Apple. When did you get on the Apple fan club membership drive?

DJ: The demand is huge there. ⁓ I didn't know that. too late to publicly admit it. was 2011. 2011 I bought my first MacBook Air.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. Yeah, after the iPhone or?

DJ: Actually, yeah. Yeah, it was actually after the iPhone. So had dated this girl that had an iPhone. I still had a Nokia at the time. And I was in the Middle East. like iPhone wasn't big. You ⁓ weren't supposed to be able to get them there, but they had them. You pay twice as much. I remember I had this Nokia and I'm looking at her use her iPhone and I'm like, what is this? And she tells me all about it. And I'm like, I've got to have one of these. So I immediately went out and spent

Christopher Weeks: Mm-hmm. Right.

DJ: twice as much as anyone in the U S would because it's technically wasn't supposed to be imported there essentially. And I went and picked one up. was a, it was a three GS. So didn't get on the very first one. got a three GS and I just kind of never went back.

Christopher Weeks: Cause you to buy it, you buy it at black market or whatever. Yeah. yeah. Yeah.

DJ: And then I bought a MacBook Pro Then I bought an iMac, which served me for a little while. The metal ones, the slim ones. And then I a new MacBook Air here with the M3. I have Windows machine and I have some Linux machines too. I always enjoy Mac OS far more.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. Right, right. Wow, yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying to think I long before the iPhone came out, I had. I don't remember if it was called an iBook or a MacBook, but it was a titanium laptop running the old. The IBM processors that I think it was like a G3 G2.

DJ: How about you? ⁓ Mm-hmm.

Christopher Weeks: Long before they even went Intel long before they even went and this Apple silicon stuff that we've got now. Um, it was a power PC IBM chip. Yeah. Um, and I absolutely loved the keyboard on that thing. That keyboard was amazing. So good. Uh, I don't know. I, I used to make jokes that I felt like Steve jobs spent all of his day just making that keyboard. Um,

DJ: Power PC, right? Mm-hmm.

Christopher Weeks: The screen was all right. It was it wasn't even a 1080p screen. It was like they was like 960. So they were like 1080. The thing craps out. We're to get you to 960. So.

DJ: Mm-hmm. Yeah, they weren't even making their own chips back then. Did you? So.

Christopher Weeks: Mm-hmm.

DJ: I was lucky enough not to have to suffer through the horrible keyboard era on the laptops. Did you live through that?

Christopher Weeks: ⁓ yeah, I'm still living through it on this current one that I'm using that has the butterfly keyboards.

DJ: Mm-hmm. You had any keys fall off or not work?

Christopher Weeks: No, haven't had that issue yet, but I'm just like, you know, as good as Johnny Ive has his reputation is, and you know, he's this, you know, master design guy. I'm like, does he spend any time typing on a keyboard? Like, yes. Just does he just talk to it all day long? And it's just like, he's gotten so good at dictation. He's like, ⁓ somebody else make the keyboard.

DJ: I know, I know just uses an iPad. you I don't I remember when that was announced though that they were they had this whole I think five minute clip this new amazing keyboard how ⁓ was it still had a lot of travel but it was still ⁓ somehow and it was just going to be the next thing in keyboards and 10 keys started falling off immediately.

Christopher Weeks: Mm. Wow. Yeah. Are you a fan of Johnny Ive or no?

DJ: So, Tim. Love Johnny Ives, love him.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah, yeah. I was kind of laughing. I'll go ahead and take the piss. Use a British term. I was kind of laughing. What was the name of the company that he started when he left Apple? ⁓ Kind of like. ⁓

DJ: It wasn't leapfrog, was it? No.

Christopher Weeks: only if we had a way of looking this up and we do.

DJ: I

Christopher Weeks: love from...

DJ: ⁓ yes. Yes. Kind of like the made in California idea.

Christopher Weeks: less. Yes, love from so Ferrari, the Italian company. Paid him to redesign the inside of the Ferrari that the dashboard and the ⁓ all of the electronics and everything. And. thought it was horrendously done.

DJ: gotta go look this up. I not know they did that.

Christopher Weeks: You you you you can find demos of it and pictures that were released and unless you're willing to drop $300,000, you're never going to see this thing. But it it doesn't look good. You're not wooing ⁓ Ferrari owners that were had the previous models that loved something that was Ferrari ⁓ designed like it looks like something special and unique. And now you just got a graphic that pops up.

DJ: I see it. It almost looks, what's the brand that kids have, you know, like the play kitchen and the play living room. It almost looks like that.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. Yeah. Right. I was just like, ⁓ know, like, why aren't you? ⁓ was wondering, like, did he test drive the like the Porsche, Tycan like, look at the electronics and the way they're done in that thing and just be like, you know what? I think I can do that, but do it one better. I'm going to Johnny Ive this thing. I'm going to pull an apple. We're going to take what's already out and we're, I'm going to make it better. Because it seemed like all he did was look at what was on the market and decided to go worse.

DJ: I'm looking at it. The dash in front of the steering wheel is just a slab of glass, like an iPad. And then to the right of that, instead of having a big screen like a, like a Tesla does, which is actually pretty cool. It just has like a kind of normal size square screen and all everything is capacitive. So that is one thing that irritates me. I love buttons in vehicles because they're tactile, but capacitive just to me doesn't work in that.

Christopher Weeks: Yes, right. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

DJ: situation.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah, yeah. Now did his company get purchased by OpenAI?

DJ: ⁓ that's a good question. I know that they, I think it did actually. I know that they were developing a device together and then that kind of died in the cradle.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah, they've officially merged with OpenAI. Yeah.

DJ: So he works for Sam Altman now.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah, that's kind of crazy. To go from Steve to Sam Altman, I'm sorry, I just, I don't see it.

DJ: Yeah. I mean, to some degree, I think Sam is a product person and visionary in terms of where he sees AI going. on the other hand, he's definitely not ⁓ ⁓ as jobs was.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, ⁓ good discussion, ⁓ on another podcast that I listened to was, the whole tariff nightmare that was going on in the United States. Well, actually that's still going on. ⁓ and, the, ⁓ idiots ⁓ in American citizenship refused to see this as a tax on a tax. I, ⁓ jokingly, seriously.

DJ: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Christopher Weeks: ⁓ tell us with my neighbor, that's a political commentator. tell them we have essentially become Europe. Now we have taxes and then on certain goods, we have an additional tax on top of that. That, know, we're hiding in it and we're calling it something else, but it's just a tax on top of a tax. We're paying duties over again on top of stuff. ⁓ ⁓ yeah, yeah. Well, I think.

DJ: Mm-hmm. And where is our representation in all this? ⁓

Christopher Weeks: to your point that you're, I think you're hinting at the whole no taxation without representation. ⁓ They're supposed to be voting and deciding our taxes. when the Supreme Court ruled, we've taken in almost $200 billion of illegal money, ⁓ but no way that we can figure out how to give it back. And the Supreme Court didn't say we have to give it back and ⁓ it's gonna be litigated and that'll take

DJ: Yeah.

Christopher Weeks: couple of years all the big companies at the top of the list, they're going to get, they're, probably going to get their money back, but you and me, ⁓ getting butt kiss. We're getting nothing. so.

DJ: Mm-hmm. especially when the tariffs were really high with China. My wife ordered some stuff from China and it would come to the door and they're like, you owe me X amount. Like what? Cause the seller didn't want to pay the tariff. You just got to pay it right there at delivery.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My wife buys volleyball uniforms and they came from Brazil for her volleyball club and the manufacturer. She took, took the uniforms and then about a month later, I got a tariff bill from FedEx that caught up a month later saying, you know, was like, you always $25 for $300 worth of sweatshirts. You know,

DJ: Wow.

Christopher Weeks: And it's just the way things are. So the question was, how do you think Steve Jobs would have handled the whole, this whole tariff nightmare mess?

DJ: That's a really good question because we know how Tim Cook did. He went to the oval office, kissed the ring and gave him a glass, it is. ⁓

Christopher Weeks: Designed by a Marine or whatever that whole thing was. This is one of one. a, whatever it was, $10 million donation to the, let's build a monstrosity onto the oval, onto the White House that nobody wants. ⁓ Yes. who was.

DJ: Because of the ballroom. Yeah.

Christopher Weeks: Whoever was like, you know, we have one inauguration every four years. Maybe we'd need a ballroom that can't be used again. I don't get it.

DJ: If there's one thing about Trump, it is he wants a legacy so bad and he wants it to be good. But I'm afraid that he's trying so hard. It's circled back around a bad.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah, yeah. I mean, you think he's just really trying to make just a boatload of money to just leave to his kids? And he doesn't care like how? And you don't care how it's made of, you know, he's just like, if I have to rob every American, I'm good with that. ⁓

DJ: you ⁓ yeah, ⁓ yeah, you see everything he started. Hmm. As he's been doing and the cryptocurrencies that to me showed it.

Christopher Weeks: I was about to say the first week in office, they got rid of all crypto regulations and got rid of the Consumer Protection Agency so that all these people could donate to the Trump crypto coin. And if they got ripped off and screwed, there's no avenue to...

DJ: Mm-hmm.

Christopher Weeks: recoup your losses.

DJ: Right, and coincidentally, that's exactly what happened. What a coincidence.

Christopher Weeks: Right. Yeah. And the other thing that happened is all of these companies, banks that had debts on the books that before weren't going after people because of the consumer protection agency, that they would protect the citizens and say that ⁓ statues of limitations had expired or other other legal remedies. And all of a sudden now Bank of America and Chase and whatever were serving people in courts for like eight year delinquent credit card bills.

DJ: Wow, yes, seven is where I want to say it cut off. That if you waited seven years, it fell off your credit report. We're going to see what happens there as well.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. Right, right crazy and how are the gas prices in Louisiana?

DJ: I've been a little too scared to look, but I think they're hovering just under $4. Like $3.50-ish.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah, so you go there and you fill up and you don't look at the bill as you leave?

DJ: I just pray the money's there ⁓ it clears.

Christopher Weeks: God. We're probably going to hit $5 here pretty fast. And there's talk of us hitting $7 or $8.

DJ: Well, I about to say, my wife was mentioning today that there was somewhere in California that had hit $8.

Christopher Weeks: it's possible. We always have little fringe areas that are kind of in the middle of nowhere that, ⁓ you have to spend three hours to truck gasoline trucks out and they're, they're more expensive. But the big deal is that we go through these summer and winter blends of gasoline to make the exhaust, different during colder and warmer temperatures. And the is that, ⁓ the company's. ⁓ don't like making different summer and winter blends and a huge loss for them when they ⁓ a cutoff time and they have to get rid of a certain blend and move on to a different one. ⁓ Right, there's no, also the summer and winter blends can only ⁓ sit around in tanks for so long before they start to go bad. ⁓ And so ⁓

DJ: ⁓ yeah, that's waste. Mm-hmm.

Christopher Weeks: turnover rate has to be really efficient. So I guess a bunch of companies kind of reached their limit and said, we're done with the whole summer, winter blend. they were pulling it, pulling out of California. So ⁓ there's that only makes it up as you have less supply, it's the same amount of demand. And there's talk of. ⁓

DJ: That only makes it go up, right?

Christopher Weeks: I think Chevron being the next big one that might leave California. And if they leave, they're one of the top three producers in the state. There's talk of us hitting like seven or $8, which. Personally, I can't see it happen. Gavin has a presidential ambitions. He's not going to be able to run for president. It'd be like, Hey, you know, I got gas up to $8 a gallon. Everybody, everybody in, everybody in California is going to be like, yeah, fuck this guy. Don't let him be your president no matter what. If your own home state, um, doesn't like what you did. So

DJ: Yeah. Think what I could do for you. Mm Yeah, you can only push liberal so far. Especially gas prices. Although, you know, we've been told elsewhere in the country like Louisiana that you all drive electric vehicles. So does it really matter? Right? A little bit of hyperbole there, but you know,

Christopher Weeks: Mm-hmm. Yeah. In California? Yeah. Shit. I mean, we I do see a ton of like solar panels and almost about half the people in my neighborhood have solar. And maybe about one in 10 has a battery attached to their house where they'll keep the overage on the local.

DJ: Mm.

Christopher Weeks: rather than sending it back to the electric company where you get pennies on the dollar per kilowatt. Yeah. They had this crazy idea years ago that they were going to mandate that everything had to be electric by like 2040, 2038, whatever it was, some number that they set off in the future. The problem was ⁓

DJ: Mm-hmm.

Christopher Weeks: Everybody knew that the California electric grids couldn't support everybody charging an electric car.

DJ: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. And you think like how electricity is produced, it's very finicky. Like it's very sensitive to changes like that. Cause I remember you, you heard about in the nineties, so many people watch Seinfeld that they had to have someone watch Seinfeld because people, when people would ⁓ step away or go to the bathroom during commercial breaks or something. you would have this overwhelming surge need for electricity because they would go make tea or something like that.

Christopher Weeks: Right, right. So are your electric companies in Louisiana, are they public utilities or are they private entities?

DJ: I would have to look further into it, but I know that it's more of the... It's not like Texas. Not like Texas. they... Texas has that whole energy exchange thing. We don't do that.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. Okay. Right, right, right. Yeah, so you heard about our quote, quote, gerrymandering that we're doing here in California.

DJ: I had heard that it was to oppose some gerrymandering done by the GOP somewhere else.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah, say you are actually accurate and I was hoping that you were actually going to be able to correct me on that. ⁓

DJ: ⁓ I don't know. I don't remember where, but Texas. ⁓ I'm thinking Texas. OK. ⁓

Christopher Weeks: Texas, yeah, Texas and Indiana. Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous. The guy that was sitting across from me last night, one of my good friends was having this discussion and he was like, ⁓ I can't believe how much California is gerrymandering that they're rigging the system so bad. And I had to remind him that Gavin Governor Abbott and even tweeted for all the public to see. ⁓ If you guys don't gerrymander in Texas and don't change your redistricting, we won't change ours in California. Yeah. Texas decided to do a, mid-election, ⁓ redrawing of districts where like, ⁓ that little democratic spot that could potentially go was all of a sudden the minuscule tiny little, thumb tack. And, California decided were going to do the same thing.

DJ: Mm-hmm.

Christopher Weeks: know what, I'm sorry, but at the end of the day, when, ⁓ Texas picks up like, ⁓ six seats, ⁓ know, what good does California have in having this, ⁓ moral high ground where they're like, we didn't change anything and we got our butts kicked in the midterms. you know, like in the last election, All of the narratives were Democrats are weak, Democrats are weak. couldn't. lost the House, lost Senate, lost the presidency. But when they say a simple thing like if you guys don't gerrymander, we'll leave our state the way it is. I don't know. It seems like we're just playing by the same rules.

DJ: It's about time. Quite honestly, I've been thinking that for a long time. It's about because the GOP plays by their own rules. They have for as long as I can remember. ⁓ Democrats have always set back and said, we're going to be the adults in the room. It's like, well, that's expensive territory. And they're they're paying the price.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ it's totally true. mean, how do you feel about this whole thing going on in Iran?

DJ: I I don't know why. Well, I guess I kind of do, but it did surprise me when Iran started attacking other countries right around them. I understand because American bases are there, right? So I like, indeed got hit in Qatar. Like that's one of our biggest air force base. I worked on that base for a little while. A couple of bases in Kuwait that I worked on were, were attacked. So I know where they're them, but

Christopher Weeks: American basses are there, yeah. Mm-hmm.

DJ: My question, I keep thinking, when does this truly become a war? Like, Donald Trump can't cover it up anymore, and can't say this isn't war because now other countries are involved. When did we get to that?

Christopher Weeks: But do you have a legitimate answer of why we're there?

DJ: ⁓ no.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. Cause like it's like, if you remember with Iraq, George Bush had Colin Powell lay out, ⁓ why we're going there. The weapons of mass destruction. it's going to happen really soon. He's got stockpiles of chemical weapons and laid it out in the United nations. And, ⁓ the American people were discussing it for weeks and weeks. We're like, we're going to go into Iraq. There was no discussion with the American people. There was no, ⁓

DJ: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Christopher Weeks: No 9 p.m. press event from the president of the United States. Being like an hour ago, I decided to make the decision to send ballistic missiles into Iran. Nothing. Nope, nothing. Just no discussion. No one really knows why the hell we're really there. I mean, they tell us, oh, we're preventing nuclear weapons. They can't have a nuclear bomb. Problem with that is three or four months ago, literally gave this press event where the secretary of defense and the president said that their nuclear program was completely obliterated, decimated with that giant, I don't know, whatever it was, ⁓ ton bomb that they dropped out of, you know, and they're like, yeah, it was decimated. What? ⁓ if something's decimated and obliterated, can it be back again in two months?

DJ: Decimated exactly. The MOBA. ⁓ know.

Christopher Weeks: You know, and not to ask the obvious question, but if something can be back in, let's just suppose it's three or four months. How does that not happen again? The moment we stop losing interest. Cause if something can go from obliterated, nothing to four months, we almost have a nuclear weapon. How can just seems like.

DJ: Yeah.

Christopher Weeks: It's a illogical fallacy to be like, ⁓ well now we can just leave and go home and stop bombing them because everything's going to be safe now. We've obliterated it again. We did a second obliteration.

DJ: Right. Lindsey Graham said that Lindsey Graham went on TV and said that they were only weeks away from having nuclear weapons.

Christopher Weeks: ⁓ God, I just like. Yeah, well, if we have to go in, I think, you know, we have to send troops in and this gets more ugly. And, you know, I was having this conversation with my neighbor. I said the only way this becomes secure and we know for sure that if there's any truth to this whole thing of they may be had nuclear weapons we're sending ground troops in and that's going to get ugly and Americans are going to pay a huge price.

DJ: So we had to go in.

Christopher Weeks: And then you're going to have to be like, was this really worth it? And I think they would. My answer is I think we're going to come up short of why you send troops in. And we're just going to be like, why did we spend all this money?

DJ: Mm-hmm. I mean, a lot of, from what I've heard, a lot of MAGA are ⁓ away from Trump due to this. Cause he was out there on the campaign trail saying, ⁓ only will I not start wars, I'm going to end wars. And ⁓ why he wanted the Nobel peace prize, right? And now he's winning to Venezuela ⁓ he's winning to Iran.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and he's looking at Cuba next. knows? Yeah, he said Cuba's on the way out. It's falling apart. Who knows? ⁓ is it Puerto Rico? I can't remember. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, we've been going for an hour 10 here. I won't keep you up all night long, but.

DJ: ⁓ I hadn't heard that. Lord. Isn't that where Bad Bunny was from? May have been Puerto Rico.

Christopher Weeks: Appreciate you making the time for this, uh, making it happen. Um, this one, actually will out, uh, we'll get out this podcast. Um, I think we came up with a name for it. Uh, it'll be the insanely great product, insanely great podcast, right? Uh, a little, a little nod to Steve jobs, which ironically as they approached the 50th anniversary, it's pretty cool. Um, what were you gonna say?

DJ: Mm hmm. Little nod to jobs there. He's spinning in his grave, but yeah.

Christopher Weeks: Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I appreciate you taking the time for this, DJ, and let's do it again next week.

DJ: Of course, I'll see you then.

Christopher Weeks: Thanks.