Mr. & Mrs. Inglis

All aboard the chaos express! If you’ve got a ticket for this ride, you already know it. It’s the one where there’s never enough time in the day—kids’ schedules outpace yours, work demands keep piling up, and oh yeah, the laundry, dishes, mowing the lawn, and bills aren’t going to handle themselves. Let’s not forget staying connected with friends and family, even though you planned to be in bed by 9 pm…but it’s now 11 pm, and tomorrow starts before the sun does. Sound familiar?

We’re right there with you. Welcome to The Mr. & Mrs. Inglis Podcast, hosted by Shaen and Meghan Inglis—a weekly show where we dive into real and honest conversations about the wild ride of raising kids, growing careers, and managing family and friendships in the middle of life’s beautiful chaos. So, grab your ticket and join us for a weekly dose of camaraderie, connection, and a reminder that you’re never in this alone.

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What is Mr. & Mrs. Inglis?

We’re right there with you. Welcome to The Mr. & Mrs. Inglis Podcast, hosted by Shaen and Meghan Inglis—a weekly show where we dive into real and honest conversations about the wild ride of raising kids, growing careers, and managing family and friendships in the middle of life’s beautiful chaos. So grab your ticket and join us for a weekly dose of camaraderie, connection, and a reminder that you’re never in this alone.

Follow and subscribe to the Mr. & Mrs. Inglis podcast and visit our channel and our website at shaeninglis.com to check out and follow our other podcasts. You can also follow Shaen and Meghan @ShaenInglis on Instagram, YouTube, etc. Feel free to share the Mr. & Mrs. Inglis podcast with someone who would enjoy and benefit from our weekly discussions.

[MUSIC]

Hey baby, I've been

watching you from the tree.

For the record, there is never a time

when you're watching someone from the

tree across the street.

That's a non-creepy thing.

Movies in the 80s.

It's not my bag, baby.

It was uncomfortable for us too, buddy.

Piranhas with frickin'

laser beams on their heads.

Oh, smash.

This is so much fun.

Bong.

We'd have to hit record and play.

They all had face boost.

Speaking of iPod, the sketchiest guy sat

next to me on the way back.

Yeah, he definitely gave

off Psycho Killer vibe.

You could buy it like

Circuit City back then.

One was Rainbow Connection.

Remember that song,

"Welcome Back, Cotter"?

Right.

I haven't heard that in a while.

VEDA or VHS.

Right now that sounds crazy.

Five years from now, we might have a

robot in this house.

Name one other stupid thing that we did

at that age that was that dumb.

Make me chuck.

I will leave you with blowing chunks.

Oh, you're blowing chunks.

Welcome to the Mr. and

Mrs. English Podcast.

I'm Megan.

And I'm Sean.

We're here to talk about the wild ride of

raising kids and growing careers,

keeping life together in

the middle of all the chaos.

So buckle up, because we're all in this

crazy journey together.

Bippity boppity boo.

I feel like maybe you

could even do the like,

[SINGING]

You just need to do a new Disney.

It's just a new Disney intro every time.

That would be pretty funny.

Yeah.

You could be the lad in "Jasmine."

Semba.

That was good.

Little James Earl Jones.

Yeah.

I got a little bit of that road thing, so

I can get a little low mood.

I--

Low and high road.

Yeah, you're very, very white.

Yeah.

The voice is very, very white.

I was listening to-- I was talking a few

weeks back about some

of those old reflections of love, the CD

sets that you bought on TV.

Yes, yeah.

That are now all MP3s or

MP4s, whatever they are.

They're all-- whatever,

on the cloud, digital.

Yep.

But I've been

listening to those ones lately.

It's just I'm going to kick of it, right?

I've been listening to that at the house.

You really have.

I know.

I get in the bathroom

and stuff like that.

I've taken showers and whatnot.

And one of them is an intro.

It's like, hey, baby.

You know how much I love you.

It's so funny.

But it's not very white,

which is what's funny about it.

Right.

It's someone else, but

that was, I guess, a thing.

I guess it was.

But it wasn't very white.

So it was like the

Commodores or something.

I can imagine.

We actually looked it up because we

thought it was very white.

And it was like, oh,

that was not very white.

No, but it was just like that.

It's that base type.

You get me so hot.

Yeah, it's always supposed

to be so steamy and sexy.

And it's like--

It's not.

It's actually a

little just creepy, but OK.

I've been watching you from

the tree across the street,

but in a non-creepy way, baby.

[SIGH]

For the record, there is never a time

when you're watching someone from the

tree across the street.

That's a non-creepy thing.

I agree.

That was like a, you

know, maybe a 70s, 80s thing.

That happened in 80s movies all the time.

It did.

Yeah, what was the one

with like John Cusack

and he like holds up the boombas?

I don't know.

I'm kind of going with that one.

But I'm pretty sure

there's like all kinds of ones,

like Goonies, like they may

have been watching somebody

from a tree with binoculars.

I can't remember.

I'm sure there's a bunch of those like--

Probably not Goonies, but yeah.

Oh, 16 Candles or yeah.

Yeah, something like that.

Movies in the 80s, I

mean, because we've watched--

and we may have even

talked about it on this--

but movies in the 80s that are--

they didn't abide by

today's rating system.

I mean, you have--

we talked about it

this weekend with someone.

Like Above the Wasteful Frontal was

normal in a PG-13 movie.

PG-13, yep.

Mm-hmm.

Yep.

And that just doesn't fly.

That's R today, at

the very least, I think.

I don't remember seeing those movies,

though, when I was kid.

The only one I remember that I never saw,

but I remember hearing about it was

National Lampoon's European Vacation.

Yes.

That's the one that always comes to mind.

And I still haven't seen that one.

I watched it when I was a kid.

Like--

You've seen it, yeah.

100%.

I was-- I know where I--

we were living in the house.

Like it was before we

had even moved to Chicago.

So I mean, I had to have

been under fourth grade.

Yeah.

And--

It seems early for Frontal--

Yes.

Above the Wasteful, in a movie.

It really does.

And I'm guessing it

wasn't showing women in a high,

you know, in their highest and best use.

No.

Not really.

No.

It's just-- but there

were quite a few of them

that just had that more adult content

that you don't find in PG-13 anymore.

And we did talk about

that a couple of weeks back.

We tried to watch Teen Wolf.

And there were some of

these ones that was just like,

ooh, we should--

I don't know.

Why are they wrestling?

And you're like, I don't know, actually,

why they're wrestling.

Yeah.

And we watched one just

recently that was like,

well, that was a

little uncomfortable even

just to watch with the kids.

Oh, yeah.

When our oldest came to me afterward,

we watched Austin Powers.

And while no actual nudity in it,

afterward, the 15-year-old was like,

yeah, mom, that was really

uncomfortable to watch that

with you guys.

And I was like, it was

uncomfortable for us too,

buddy.

Yeah, it was a 90s, I think, movie.

And they just--

I don't know.

I guess that's just

what those comedies are.

There's not a lot of comedies that

don't have sexual windows.

I don't know.

But yeah, it is almost always

uncomfortable watching

some of those old movies like that.

And that's just why we

haven't introduced a lot of those

classics to our kids.

That was one of the first ones we did.

And we couldn't remember.

I didn't remember that it was that.

I knew there were some.

Like, that's not my bag, baby.

I obviously remember

those kind of things.

But I didn't realize just

how in your face it was.

There's so many classic

lines in that, like, frickin'--

he's doing the 20-point turn.

Just want piranhas with frickin' laser

beams on their heads.

Like, I mean--

Yeah.

1 million.

There's so many great lines in it.

It's totally--

And then I don't want to say it's ruined,

because those are classics.

But those are uncomfortable to watch.

And I can't tell our kids.

But that was part of what

we've learned this year so far.

We can't hide them from that stuff.

They need to know it's out there.

And so I think we've

pushed ourselves a little bit

to watch some things that is out there.

So not that we kept anything taboo,

but there can't be any taboo.

There cannot be any taboo.

And as long as

whatever movie you're showing

is representing any

type of sexual content

in the bounds of

normalcy of that reality,

it's like, OK, we have to

be comfortable with that.

Our kids are going to be

exposed to that kind of stuff.

On some type of content, it's just

you can't pass the bounds of pornography

so that they don't go there

looking for that kind of thing.

Curious about it.

You're like--

Right.

You want them to think of

the love scene in "Top Gun"

as that's a normal love

between a man and a woman.

Not from what we understand.

Sometimes you find

online where every woman

should be choked out.

You went there.

But it's-- yeah.

To you pass out, and that's part

of a normal sexual relationship.

I mean, I can only

imagine what you find online.

I mean, and I'm almost 50.

I'm a 40-- how do I say that?

I don't like--

You're in your late 40s?

I'm a late 40s guy.

I hate to say I'm

almost 50 because I'm not.

I'm used to rounding those numbers.

And now I don't like that round.

I don't like to round it.

That's not good rounds.

And now it's like, I'm late 40s?

Or just say what I am?

Just say you're in your 40s.

Because you are.

You're in my late 40s.

I'm aware of all the

stuff that's out there.

And probably not aware of

some of the darker, crazier

sides of it.

I would imagine you're not, yeah.

But I can only imagine

based on what I do know.

What could possibly be out there.

And you're like, you need--

yeah, you don't want

your kids seeing that.

It's like the Top Gun love scene.

Yeah.

OK.

Right.

That one's OK.

Yeah, there's just so

many sexual innuendos

in those things that are just like, oh,

that's uncomfortable.

I know.

Not even innuendos just straight out.

Sometimes it's just straight out, yeah.

Yeah.

But they're going to

hear it one way or another.

I mean--

it's not new to them at that age.

I guess that's the hard

part too is our oldest is 15.

Our youngest is 11.

And it's like, OK.

We kind of shaded that

from the oldest to the other.

For 15 years now, the youngest is being

exposed to her to 11 years.

Right.

How do you balance that?

Is that good or bad?

Right.

This is PG-13 and he's under 13.

He's under 13.

And it's a 1990s PG-13.

Which is really like our now.

So really, you need to be 17.

Right.

It's just-- I don't

know the right balance.

But I remember even with violence, right?

We let our kids watch Avengers.

Yeah.

And our youngest was like kindergarten.

And we're watching Avengers.

And Hulk smash.

And there are worse things than Avengers.

We weren't watching Seven

or It or anything like that.

It was more action oriented.

But it's like, is that really appropriate

for a five-year-old?

I don't know.

I mean, it was fine for

his nine-year-old brother.

Yeah.

I mean, as we think back on that one,

there were times where we

did have to kind of parent

aggression in that younger child.

Yes.

And maybe we still have to do that.

So we planted some seeds.

Right.

Smashing.

Yeah.

Don't Hulk smash.

Like Hulk.

Yes.

I will never forget, though, our oldest,

who is just the sweetest personality.

Like we took him to

see an Avengers movie.

He was about three because

our daughter was an infant.

We wanted to see the movie.

We thought most of it

would go over their heads,

about the three-year-old's head.

And I will never forget, he just went

around the house for weeks

going, Hulk smash.

You know, this little

three-year-old just, Hulk smash.

That's probably all he could say.

Yeah.

It was pretty funny.

We used to be a big movie family.

We'd watch movies.

Every Friday night, it

was just kind of our thing

for a long while.

Just kind of have a

relaxing pizza movie Friday night.

And it's time to spend

with the family in good movies

and whatnot.

Or every now and then, we'd set up in a

game night or something.

We'd watch a lot of movies.

And that's kind of come to a screeching

halt here this year.

It has.

I don't know if it's we're too busy.

If the kids are getting too

old, they don't have the--

they don't have the attention spans.

I know.

I don't know if it's--

I think it's that.

Plus, you just have

teenagers who would rather

be listening to their

own music in their room

or on the Xbox with their friends.

Yeah.

It's a bit of a--

and we're at the point where it's

like we have the older one who really

wants to do kind of his own thing.

But the younger one still

craves that family time.

And I don't know about you, but I feel

then just guilty and torn.

Because it's like, well, the oldest

had that family time for this long.

And the youngest, it just

kind of gets ripped away from.

Well, I mean, it's like we talked about--

we were in Denver this last weekend.

And we were a split family.

And that's just going

to be the norm for--

that's the norm for the baby.

Their life is different.

Babies have always treated differently

because they were the baby.

So they get different experiences.

And that's going to be his too.

Yeah.

I mean, his oldest

brother is older, obviously.

And he went off to do his thing.

And that will be our

youngest's normalness, though.

That'll be normal to him.

That won't be like, oh, I'm so sad.

Why isn't he hanging around?

Yeah.

That'd be normal to him,

even though it's sad to us

because we've known what it was before.

Yeah.

I know.

It is kind of sad.

I don't know about in your family,

but for in my family,

the youngest, I mean, she--

it's sad because we

almost used her in a way.

Like, I remember my

brothers would be like, hey,

do you want to come out

and play soccer with me?

And ultimately, they just wanted her to

shag balls for them.

But she thought that they

were playing with her, you know?

And I mean, I guess, in a

sense, she just didn't know.

This is so much fun.

Bong.

Right.

You know, but I almost feel

like that's where our kids are

at a little bit.

You know?

It's like if the oldest

wants to go kick the soccer ball,

or the football because he's been trying

to kick field goals,

ultimately, he just

wants his younger brother

to shag balls for him.

I was like, oh, buddy.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know.

I haven't watched that too closely

if that's the dynamic of it or not.

It probably is to some degree.

But you know, when they

would do that with soccer,

we bought a bag of soccer balls.

It's like, oh, now

you can shoot 10 times.

Yeah.

And then go get the ball.

And do they do that?

No.

They still just do one shot at a time.

Go get it.

One shot.

You know?

They ultimately just don't

want to clean up 10 soccer balls.

Yeah, I know.

Just this generation.

I don't want to call our

kids lazy, but this generation--

when we were talking about movies,

it's crazy to me how they watch movies,

because they don't

watch the whole movies.

I don't know if we've talked

about that before or briefly,

but I mean, they watch their

favorite 10 minutes of a movie

and then fast forward

to their next favorite 10

minutes of that movie.

Maybe that's all they want to see is 25

minutes out of an hour

and a half long movie, and they move on.

And that checks the box for that movie.

That's crazy.

That is weird to me.

Yeah.

You don't sit and

watch a movie, watch it.

I've never sat and like, I just want

to watch this one part of this movie.

It's my favorite part.

Right.

I don't think I have either.

I know I haven't.

Unless it was on

television and I happened to turn it

on at that point in time.

Yeah, but then you watch the rest of it.

I watched the rest of it.

Exactly.

Just watch that 10 minute

period and then move on.

It's so odd.

It's just their

attention spans, and that's

what we were getting at.

Their attention spans

are next to nothing.

Nothing.

And I don't think--

Because they can do that.

They have the ability to do anything

for any period of time,

basically, that they want to.

Yeah.

Which is different than us.

On demand.

Everything's on demand.

I'm not just talking about

videos and TV and movies.

Anything you want in the world is

basically on demand.

Oh, think about music from

when we had to buy the tape,

the cassette tape.

And if you wanted to

hear a different song

by a different artist,

you're either waiting for it

to come on the radio, or you have

to buy a different cassette tape.

Now it's like, oh gosh, I'd really

like to listen to this song.

Let's just talk about that for a minute,

because that is one

of those nostalgic ones

that I just love that we've

lived through in our lives.

Going through-- I

mean, we both had records.

Oh, yeah.

So I only had a couple records.

And like I said, my

parents weren't huge on music.

So maybe there were a

couple records that existed.

But I had a couple.

Like, we are the world

record and something else.

I know you had a couple, too.

Yeah.

I listened to them all the time.

And then we made the change

through to cassette tapes.

And we were a little-- we were too young

for, I think, A-tracks.

Even though I remember A-tracks.

I don't mean-- I don't.

I mean, I remember cars

that had A-track players.

But I don't remember--

but I don't remember--

I was too young to use them.

I remember them.

But never-- I never utilized them.

So then, cassette tapes was great.

Like you said, you would have your

boombox at the house.

Because at some point,

everybody got the boombox.

And once they figured out, it

would be two cassette tapes.

And everybody bought the little--

the clear cassette tapes that

you could write the name on.

Mixtape and stuff like that.

I talk about mixtapes all

the time in a morning serial.

I would always make love tapes or make

off the radio tapes.

But you'd have to hit record and play as

they are doing the intro

on the radio station.

And you'd get a whole

tape of some random DJ

introing the song.

And then you'd miss the

first 20 seconds of the song.

But then as soon as they

start singing, you'd have it.

Sure.

So that was that, right?

And then when you took it in your car--

because when I first started driving--

and you might have been

after this, I don't know.

But when I first

started driving, I had this--

I don't even know how to describe it.

But it was probably

18 inches by 12 inches.

Anyways, you had all these little slots

that you could put cassette tapes in.

And it would roll up.

Oh my gosh.

I did not want those.

And it would Velcro top.

So you could take like, I don't know,

say 12 cassette tapes with you, right?

Because I remember friends

that had just cassette tapes

in their plastic covers just strown

throughout their car.

For sure.

Or in some sort of tray of some sort.

But they were never well organized.

No, never.

But I had that little roll up one.

So you took them out

of their plastic case.

And they were just the

cassette tape by itself.

And you put them in there.

OK, fast forward then, right?

So what was next?

Did you have the next one?

The tape that you put in that was

attached to the CD player

that you could do it in your car?

Yeah.

Oh, totally.

So that was huge.

That's when every time

you would look at it,

it would skip.

Right?

[LAUGHTER]

You had the CD player skip.

And you'd buy the CD player

that was anti-skip or shock

absorbing with bass boost also.

[LAUGHTER]

I don't know if I had

bass boost, but after short.

They all had bass boost, like a button on it.

I don't know if that did anything.

I doubt it.

I highly doubt it.

Yeah.

And then that was like--

oh, then we had CDs.

So then it was, how do

you bring CDs into the car?

More than one.

And I don't remember

if at that point in time

you could burn CDs as easily.

I think that came a

little later, but for sure.

Right.

So you had to actually

take the actual CD in there,

which drove me crazy as a perfectionist

because CDs scratched.

And if you scratched

the CD, what did it do?

It skipped.

So that drove me crazy

of how to keep those nice.

So you would start--

initially, you would have

your CD cases and everything.

And then eventually you'd get a CD book.

Start slipping all those CDs in.

You'd have a 10-CD book.

Yep.

And then you're like,

well, you know what?

I need a few more.

Then you'd have a

30-CD book that was thick.

And then eventually, at the end of it--

now this is when you could burn.

So this is when I decided, I'm going

to burn every one of my CDs.

So every CD I bought, I

burned it to another CD.

So I had a copy of it.

And I put the original

CD back in its CD case.

And it was never seen again.

It was filed away into my CD thing.

I only used that burned copy.

And I even made copies

of the front of the case

and put in-- you know how

you could put a piece of paper

in there?

So then I knew what case it was.

Yeah, it shocked me.

Oh my gosh.

But I didn't do that that

often until I got to the 100 CD--

Oh my gosh.

Case pack for your car.

I saw it recently.

I saw yours.

So it was an erotic.

100%.

I saw it when I was

looking for something up there.

Did you have one of these into your

brothers and sisters?

Not one that big.

I always had one for the car.

And I would trade out my CDs

if I wanted a different one

in the car.

You had a 41 or something like that.

That was like a Logitech.

I had a 10-CD one that I kept in my car.

You had a small one.

Yeah, even though I had a

lot more CDs than that at home,

it was like, no, I'm

really liking this CD.

I'll put this one then in my car.

I liked having a big music selection.

I had a huge block, a block.

It's huge.

100.

100 CDs because of it.

I can attest to this

because on all the road trips,

I'd pull out-- like, I had it at my feet.

The big, bold thing.

That's crazy that we were

together when that was still

a thing.

Page after page after page after page.

I knew what page it was

on because I had them all--

they were all in--

They're by genre.

Genre in an alphabetical order by genre.

So I knew where they

were all at in there.

As did I because I was the one playing DJ

while you were driving.

But you had to have them all.

And even then, it was like

I had the full CD burned.

I only liked three

songs about that whole CD.

So it's like, OK, now track four.

Yeah, I know.

And we still have the actual

CD, the piece of furniture,

the CD holder.

This thing is heavy as all get out.

We still have that, I'm sure, somewhere.

We don't have that.

I sold it.

It's spun.

It was really nice, but it had glass.

It was two-sided.

Yeah, it pushed the thing in the glass.

Yeah, the magnetic glass that opened up.

But you could fit, I

don't know, 100 CDs in it.

But by the time we got to it,

I think I had 400 or 500 CDs.

By the time we finally

went to MP3s, then to MP4s.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I remember I bought you your first--

iPod.

Yeah, yeah.

I still have it.

Yeah, for our--

I think that was

Valentine's Day or your birthday,

because I don't remember

which one I got it for.

Since they're a day apart, I always

bought two presents.

One for Valentine's

Day, one for your birthday.

But yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I still have it.

It's actually in my closet right now.

In a little glass bowl.

I don't know why it's in that.

But it's hilarious.

Yeah, and then the iPod was incredible.

That blew my mind.

Yeah.

Blew my mind.

Yeah.

Speaking of iPod, the sketchiest guy

sat next to me on the

way back from Denver.

I don't know if you

noticed on the way home.

But he had an original iPod.

I thought it was one

of our kids' teammates

that was sitting next to you.

Maybe it was his trip out then.

That weekend was--

It was on the way out.

It was.

Yeah, it was to Denver.

Because uh-huh.

Yeah, he's like, is this seat taken?

I'm like, no, it's all yours, as usual.

You know, it was a middle seat.

And I was like, no, it was all yours.

I didn't look at him, but I thought

he was kind of a normal

person when I first got up.

No.

After he sat down, I'm like, oh, oh.

Like, oh, seat's taken.

I should have said.

I-- yeah, he was staring at me.

I felt very, very, very uncomfortable.

He was like-- he was just very intense.

He was like, I don't

know what was going on.

He was like flying

somewhere to kill somebody

and just couldn't wait to

get there or what it was.

But he had-- here's the point.

I brought it up.

That was the vibe he

gave, just for the record.

That was the vibe.

Total, that was his vibe, 100%.

But he had an original iPod.

You know, the one that clicked around?

You're kidding.

That's what he was listening to music on.

All rage metal that I--

the three or four songs that I looked

down at, rage metal.

You're like, guar, whatever.

[GIBBERISH] I was so thankful I did--

because usually I get the weirdest.

Yeah, usually you do.

So good, you got one.

I remember-- I would not

have remembered this guy had you

not--

Yeah.

This up right now because--

Yeah.

He definitely gave

off Psycho Killer vibe.

Total Psycho Killer vibe.

Yeah.

So I haven't hit that vibe yet.

You know, give me a couple years maybe.

No.

Anyway, so he had the

iPod, which was crazy.

We're just going down the

memory lane here of technology,

of music, because it's such a

big part of our lives, my life

for sure, and yours too.

But that was huge.

The iPod was-- blew my mind.

But then you had to do the whole

transition of downloading.

Because now you had to burn

all those CDs that I had already

burned to another CD.

Do you remember this?

We had to burn them all to our computer.

Yes.

And then upload them up to your iTunes.

So that's how you got

all these songs onto your--

so I'm like, I have 500 CDs.

Do you remember?

Because they were part of our--

that was at the time

where one iTunes account could

be loaded to multiple devices.

And so I have all of yours too.

And I'm like, that's one of

Sean's songs I'm just guessing.

Yeah, there's not many like that.

There's a couple.

Very eclectic.

Yeah, just no jazz.

You draw the line of jazz.

I know.

I feel really bad.

I feel like--

In hardcore country.

In hardcore.

Twangy country.

It's really about the ones I have the

hardest time taking.

Oh, and rage metal.

We don't have any rage metal either.

I have heavy metal, but no rage metal.

There's a total difference.

And there is a

difference between rage metal.

I can handle heavy metal.

I actually like it occasionally.

Like, I have the mood for that.

Yeah, for sure.

So then you had to

download them all to your--

so we had to take all those CDs.

And that's when computers had a CD ROM.

I think they were called in them.

All these old terms.

They put them in there, and you'd

have to burn them to there.

My original CDs, the ones

that maybe before I could

burn them to another one,

they had a scratch in them

or something like that.

But I had the thing that--

I don't know if anybody

remembers this, but they gave

you-- you could buy it

like Circuit City back then.

We're just going to stay back in the day.

We're just going to stay

back in the day at Circuit City.

A CD cleaner.

So it was one of those

little things that look like a CD

player.

You're taking your car.

Yeah, you can put it in.

You'd squirt it, and you put it in there.

And then you just turn the

side of it, and it had little

bristles in there, and it supposedly

cleaned your CD off.

So you'd have to clean the

CD, and then you'd put it in the

CD ROM, and then you'd

have to download it to--

it was like six minutes,

probably a CD, I would say.

I don't remember--

to download it to iTunes at the time.

Yeah.

And then if it had a skip in

it, that's how the original

iTunes were.

Yeah.

And so that lasted for a long time.

Until I figured out.

Then the next derivative of

all this was iTunes figured out,

like, hey, we're

going to let you swap out.

You need to sign up for

something new for us, but we'll

let you swap out all your

songs for the digital version of

that song.

And so you had to sign up for iTunes

Match or something like

that, which was fantastic.

But somewhere along the way

during that, and where we are

now, I've lost so many songs.

Yeah.

Likely from those

reflections of love CDs that you used.

No, I've checked those.

I have those.

But every now and then--

I've catalogued everyone.

Every now and then I'll be

like, oh my gosh, I forgot

about this song.

I had this CD.

The Beastie Boys were some of those.

You know what I mean?

I don't have their CDs

anywhere in the catalog.

So I had to re-download.

And now it's weird,

because you don't actually

download anything.

You just--

Add it to your playlist.

Add it to your playlist as

long as you're signed up.

Yeah.

And so now we--

Apple owns us forever.

Because the second I'm like,

I don't want to pay for my $20

or $50 a month family Apple account.

Well, I think we lose

access to all those songs.

So--

That's not good.

Yeah.

And so--

and I don't know how any

of the other ones work.

I know people listen

to Bill in the Blank.

What's the other big one?

It's not Pandora.

Napster.

Oh my gosh.

Talk about a blast from the past.

I don't remember.

The first songs I downloaded from--

I did download songs from Napster.

Yeah.

One was Rainbow Connection.

Because that was like a nostalgic song.

By a song by Kermit the Frog.

By the illustrious Kermit the Frog.

The original version.

Why are there so many?

Yeah, that's exactly.

Songs.

I can't remember all the other ones.

But there's like a Kid

Rock song on that one.

There's a lot of

people that for a long time

wouldn't actually put their music on--

Yeah, because-- well, I think--

Like, Art Rooks didn't do that?

Yeah.

Like, I think artists

weren't getting paid, which--

or something like that.

There was something about

it, which I don't blame them.

Like, I want to get paid

for the work I've put in.

Yeah, I don't know anything about it.

I know the industry completely changed

during that time frame, but--

I am such an expert

on the music industry.

Yeah.

So now, the biggest

headache I have now with music is--

even though it's all

about our fingertips,

I probably have, what,

20-some thousand songs

now in the catalog.

Some of them I like.

Some of them are great.

Some of them are not so great.

But I do like a good

mixture of them sometimes.

But when you put it on

shuffle, what does shuffle do?

I have 20,000 songs in there.

And let's just say I play this as 2,000.

Right.

I play as the same 70

songs over and over.

I'm sorry.

Yeah.

The same 50 songs get

played over and over and over.

And it's like, why

won't you go to that song

you haven't played yet?

I know.

I don't understand that.

Like, that random one.

Because I have to rely on my

own memory to be like, gosh,

you know what?

You know the song I haven't heard from--

Remember that song, Welcome Back, Cotter?

Right.

I haven't even heard that in a while.

Yes.

Or years.

Is that on my playlist?

It's on the playlist.

I've checked it out.

Yeah.

You're like--

Anyways.

It's that gem that you just kind of want

to hear every now and again.

Yeah.

But those are some of those things--

I've talked about it before.

Our grandparents lived through just an

incredible time period

of just technological,

industrial advancements.

Some of our grandparents--

I guess planes were

starting to be around.

But some of the ones that

have just recently passed--

planes were not commercial.

No.

They didn't fly on planes.

They rode buggies, literally.

Literally.

Yeah.

And so to see what they've seen--

the radio, the

telephone, into the television,

into color TV, into

commercial flights everywhere,

into now computers, all

this stuff that never existed

for them.

We're getting to the age now, which was

incredible advancement.

And maybe we'll never see

that again at that rapidity.

Maybe not.

Whatever.

But in our lives,

we're starting to see that.

We had the phone cords.

Those are the

Generation X nostalgic things

that we talk about.

And every now and again,

you get on a reel that starts

talking about some of that stuff.

But we memorized phone

numbers back in the day.

We had the phone book.

Then you had your personal phone book

that mom or dad probably wrote

everybody's phone numbers down

in.

Rolodex, yeah.

You guys had an actual rolodex?

Or did you have the one that

you could take it down to a P

and then you push the button and it would

flop open at the P's?

Yeah, no.

That sounds way too fancy.

That sounds cool.

No, ours was just a regular rolodex.

I think I bought that one

when I was maybe on my own.

It's pretty special.

But yeah.

We never had an actual rolodex.

That was probably from your dad.

Business, he probably

took that from the bank.

No, this really was.

Because with five kids

and all of our friends

and their parents, my mom had

a card for every one of them.

So yeah.

Oh yeah.

We had a rolodex.

Wow.

And honestly, I think it sat on the

counter near the telephone

up until probably my parents moved.

I think we just had a book that was

like one of those Bibles

that had a tab all the way down.

ABC, the--

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So you just go down to the tab and open.

Yeah.

Oh no.

We had ours.

You go to the P and then

we'd see all the Peter'sons.

Yeah.

But you remember your

best friend's phone number,

your home phone number back then?

Because--

Heck yeah.

I mean, that was like--

you had to know

because you had to call home.

Yeah.

And we had.

So did you have a phone in your bedroom?

No.

No?

We were not allowed to

have phones in our bedroom.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Somehow I got one

downstairs in my bedroom.

I don't know if anybody had this phone.

Here's the phone I had down there.

Because you could get like

fun phones back then, right?

Yes, yes.

You had a target and

there's all these weird, you know,

like whatever phones.

Mine was white.

It was like square, like a foot by--

12 inches by 12 inches.

And all the numbers were huge on it.

Like each number--

Yes.

Was like a square that was like two

inches by two inches.

White.

So you'd pick up like a

kind of a flatter receiver.

And then these huge

numbers you could tile with.

I remember that one.

You could like Hulk smash them.

Hulk smash them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh my gosh.

That's pretty funny.

And then we just had the

regular one in the, you know,

hanging up with the long extension cord.

Yeah, we had that.

In the kitchen.

Yeah.

The kitchen was the

main one in our house.

Is that where yours was?

Absolutely.

Yeah, that was the main one.

I think my parents had

one in their bedroom.

Did you have a long cord?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, we did.

And then, yeah, you would-- so you

had to sit in the kitchen and talk.

And we did get one

upstairs kind of in the hallway

as we got a little bit older.

And I think the cord was long enough

that you could pull it into your bedroom.

But, you know.

Depending on, I guess,

my older brother and I,

we had the closest rooms to the phone.

Yeah.

I don't--

One of the other kids you could--

Gosh, I don't remember

having another phone in the house

other than one in the kitchen.

I did have one in my

room at one point in time.

Yeah.

And then I don't

remember another corded phone.

My parents may have

had one in their bedroom.

I can't recall it, to be honest with you,

until we got the first cordless phones.

Remember those white phones you had to

pull out the antenna?

Yeah.

Everybody knows that.

Totally.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

We had those.

Yeah.

And we never had-- did

you have the rotor phones?

We never had one.

But my grandparents had

one for the longest time.

Grandparents had one, for sure.

We never had one.

Theirs was all rotor.

I remember playing with it all the time.

Heck yeah.

It was crazy.

I mean, you'll never

forget that feel of the pushing

against the number as it's pushing back.

Yep.

And then the--

And then you're like--

Yep.

Crazy.

Yep.

That was like-- I mean, we could talk--

I could talk about this

kind of stuff all day long.

Because people live through it too,

but you just start

going back to those things

that we lived through,

like cable television.

Cable didn't exist when we

first started watching TV.

VCRs didn't.

I remember renting.

You guys bought it.

We rented a VCR for the longest time,

until we actually bought one.

But you never knew.

We could go to the-- it wasn't

Blockbuster even then.

No.

But there were lots of video stores.

Lots of video stores.

And they had a back room, some of them.

But you had to decide if

you wanted a beta or a VHS.

Because there was that whole,

like, who's going to win out?

Yeah.

I remember when I went to DVDs.

Yeah.

Go beta.

No, I'm just kidding.

Yeah.

Beta's making a comeback.

Well, you remember when

Blockbuster had both DVDs

and VHSs stacked up?

Yeah.

That was crazy.

And I remember thinking at the time,

like, do you think

the DVDs will overtake?

Because DVDs were really expensive then.

Yeah.

The players were really expensive.

Yeah.

Funny.

And then Blu-ray.

And then, yeah, now it's just--

everything's digital.

Yeah.

It's crazy.

But with the phone, when did we start

getting answering machines?

I don't remember even

having an answering machine.

But it seemed like everybody had one.

Yeah.

It was after cordless, right?

Yeah, yeah.

So nobody-- because that

was when they invented--

You could attach your answering machine

to the corded phone.

You could.

OK.

But it was like a special connection.

Yeah.

I don't remember the answering machine.

I think back of answering machines,

I think more movie

answering machines, you know?

I'm sure I had one at some point in time.

Maybe I did.

But I can't remember.

I don't remember those ones very often.

Did I have one when I was on my own?

I don't think I did.

Because we were kind of

transitioning into cell phones.

But everybody still had a home phone.

Yeah.

You always had a cell

phone and a home phone.

And a home phone.

Call me at home.

Yeah.

That's because we only had so many

minutes at the time.

Yeah, it's true.

It's true.

I remember the long

distance card and all of that.

Yeah.

But even on the first cell phones,

you only get like 100 minutes a month.

Yeah.

So it was like, I got to talk fast.

I've only got 100 minutes.

You know, call me at home.

I'm almost home.

Yeah.

Yeah, in the long distance.

But what was I going to say

about the answering machine,

though?

There was something else I was thinking

that reminded me of the

answering machine, too.

Oh, call waiting was a big thing.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, like--

Let me switch over to the other line.

All these technological

quote unquote advances that--

I know. I know, slowly but

surely, have just turned into,

now we just have the

most incredible computer.

And you literally have

one sitting on your lap.

You know?

It's insane.

And our kids take all this for granted.

They're good.

Can only imagine what they're going to

see in their lifetime.

Right.

They're going to have

like hologram phones.

What's changed-- yeah, I wonder.

I wonder.

What's changed in their lifetime?

And I wonder what will change in their--

by the time they're 50,

what's going to be so different?

Because I mean, at the

time, the world's changed a lot

from when I was born to today.

And the world's changed a lot even.

We didn't have iPhones

when the kids were born.

I got an iPhone when our second--

when our daughter was born.

Yeah.

So that, think about

that, that's revolutionized.

We used to have DVDs no longer.

It has changed.

Think about AI.

They knew what DVDs were because they

used to put them in the movies and all

when they were little.

Yeah.

They used to chat GPT all the time now.

AI is clearly the big one for them.

But I think it's--

they're young enough now

that they're going to be like,

AI has always been around.

Always been around.

So whatever

derivative of that improvement

is going to be over the next

decade or two will be crazy.

Robots.

That might be a thing.

I saw another company that

just released robots, a robot.

I think it was $20,000.

And it does regular household chores.

Pulls laundry.

I thought of you immediately.

And--

Do we get this?

It comes with multiple

different types of clothes

that you can dress it in.

Different two colors of shoes.

I'm less concerned about that.

It does a little dance if you want it to.

Oh, wow.

Can it fold the clothes the way I want it

to fold the clothes?

I'm sure it can learn how to fold the way

you want it to fold.

Game changer.

Can you imagine having a robot?

But right now, that sounds

crazy as we sit here today.

But five years from now, we might

have a robot in this house just doing

monotonous home stuff.

Is that crazy?

That would give me hours of my life back.

Tesla's betting big on that.

This other company is another company

I've never heard of.

Wow.

Yeah.

So robots, that might be a thing.

Robots.

So it's going back to the Jetsons.

Not bears.

Bears.

Robots.

Oh, well, I don't even

know how to transition.

But we are getting a little long.

I just saw the time.

Yep, we're right on.

We're not long yet.

We've been way longer than this one.

But we can start

transitioning to the clothes here.

We had a crazy weekend.

We're in the middle of

the work week right now,

because we're in Colorado.

Whirlwind, thank you for everybody

that came out to see the kids and us.

It was so great to see you.

Good to see everybody.

Kids loved having a fan base.

Yeah, it was nice.

Unfortunately, our

youngest scored a couple.

Yeah, it was the first

weekend that our oldest did not

need a drought and no assists either.

So it had nothing to do with them,

because I don't think he gets nervous

with people watching him.

But that was just unfortunate.

I mean, I'm sure they

got to see him shine,

but they didn't get to see

him put some scores on the board

like he usually does.

But that was whirlwind.

Literally, I said after we were done,

well, we saw them, but we

really didn't see people.

Hopefully, we weren't

rude, because we were like--

literally, the last game, it was like,

we hate to see you and

run, but we're out of here.

We got to get to play.

We got to catch flight.

Or we got to get to the next game.

It was kind of a busy--

Yeah, because one was

playing on one side of Denver.

One was on the other,

literally 35 minutes away.

And we were running in between.

It was crazy.

Yeah.

It was just like our weekends at home,

only we were down a car.

And we were in a different city.

Down a car and just in Colorado for a

regular league game.

Right.

It was insane.

Just-- yep.

We'll just leave work on Friday, come

back late Sunday night,

and go back at it again.

That's what we've done.

It was off at 5.45 in the morning.

And it doesn't matter

that we got home at 11.30.

Got to get up and do it again.

You catching up, though?

Kind of.

This has been a year

that I feel like you and I

mentioned it just the other day.

You've been more-- what's the word?

Just-- struggle is the wrong word for it.

But you've definitely just been more--

what's the word?

I've just been busier, I feel like.

You've been really busy this year.

There hasn't been any downtime.

Just like every job,

there's always the busy times.

There hasn't been a non-busy time.

There's been no

taking of breaths in 2025.

No.

I will be very happy on

New Year's Eve of 2025.

Could be worse, but it was a crazy year.

It's been a crazy year.

I'm looking forward to turning the page.

We hear that third driver, though.

Helps a lot.

I'm really looking forward to that.

I mean, yes and no, but--

I don't want them to grow up.

It just-- it still just breaks my heart.

I don't know.

Breaks my heart, but--

All right, well, maybe we start thinking

of our word to sum up

last week.

Yeah.

I actually thought of mine

earlier today, so I have mine.

It's two words, but--

Really?

OK, well, I'm ready.

I'm ready to go.

OK, yeah.

All right, 1, 2, 3.

F1.

Good vibes.

F1, huh?

Yeah, because I

couldn't think of the guy--

Race car?

No, exactly.

Vax Verstappen?

Verstappen should have been it.

Verstappen.

Just because we're going at light speed?

Yeah, it just feels fast right now.

It does feel fast.

It actually feels fast, like to the point

where I don't want to miss

details, like paying a bill.

Just simple things, a

birthday, an anniversary.

There's times I panic

and be like, oh my gosh,

did I forget our anniversary?

It's like, oh my god.

You never have.

It was two months ago.

I think we did that.

It's like that.

We're just moving.

We're moving fast.

Good, bad, ugly.

Regardless, we're moving fast.

We're moving fast.

And yours was good vibes.

You know?

Like the Beach Boys.

Yeah, I just feel like the last week,

if I think about the last week--

Yeah, you're right.

The last week.

There's been a lot of just,

that was fun, or that was cool,

or yeah, sure, it was busy.

But great news.

You had some really good

progress on some things.

It was good to see people.

It felt amazing to be in Colorado.

Yeah.

There was some good vibes.

That's a positive look on it.

It was fast, but it

was really good vibes.

Yeah.

It was a good vibe.

All right.

Well, that's probably it for episode 42.

We're just stacking up.

Right.

Thank you.

That is everywhere.

I heard someone else say,

oh, I'm going to get into it.

I saw someone else say the six, seven

things somewhere too.

Like everybody's doing it now.

Everybody.

So that means the kids

are about to stop doing it,

because now adults are doing it.

Oh, it was on CNN.

The news did it.

South Park's all over it.

You know what I mean?

I heard some football

announcers do it two weeks ago.

Tony Romo did it,

because he's got young kids.

OK.

You know the adults have

it, we'll never hear it again.

So maybe that's what--

You would hope.

But I've been asking, it's

clearly not cool anymore,

right?

I mean, all the adults do it.

Exactly.

Yeah, they still do it.

Name one other stupid thing

that we did at that age that

was that dumb.

I can't either.

But I'm sure there was.

Nothing like that.

Gag me with the spoon.

Dude.

There's a bar for them.

Make me barf.

I don't know.

Barf in general.

At our generation.

It's a great word.

You're a big chug.

All right, let's get out of here.

All right, well--

What's that?

Have a great week.

Thanks for joining.

Have a good one.

See ya.

I will leave you with blowing chucks.

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