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Explore UFOs, Nephilim giants, biblical prophecy, and supernatural phenomena with author and researcher L.A. Marzulli. Each episode dives into current events and ancient mysteries through the lens of politics, faith, and end-times insight.
UFOs are real, burgeoning not blowing away, I am your intrepid host coming to you from an undisclosed location somewhere deep in the heart of the Santa Monica Mountains. My very special guest today, good friend, we had vacation with Karen and her English husband Dave Wilkinson. It's always great to hang out with her and Dave and the crew as it were, the Veeps and that's all I'll say about that, But we'll get into that, but first it will work from our very trusted sponsor. We've all seen the headlines about Ozempic and similar miracle weight loss shots, but what most people don't realize is this: a major analysis just found out that people who stop taking these weight loss injections gain nearly all their weight back within a year. That's the catch.
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Speaker 1:If you've not read the book go to our website lamarzulvi.com, lamarzulvi.com. She was an abductee from a very early age and our film number four on abductions, it's Karen Wilkinson is the tempo. That's a filmic term that we use. Everything revolves around Karen. Al Matthews is another abductee.
Speaker 1:Emile Jerk another abductee. And then of course Angela Beckman, yet a fourth abductee. All these people are telling you the truth something is happening. It's very dark, it's very nefarious and the reason why we're holding our January is to push back against the prevailing narrative, to try to wake up a sleeping church because the church still differs and won't even talk about it for the most part. Karen, thanks so much for coming on the record.
Speaker 1:Really appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you for having me. It's always an honor to sit down and chat with you LA.
Speaker 1:Well, the honor is all mine. You'll be presenting at the January. And by the way, folks, it is a virtual conference. It's $19.99. Go to deception2026.com.
Speaker 1:We're over 500 participants already. I'm sure we'll get a thousand easily by the day of the conference. It starts Friday the sixteenth and then goes into Saturday. So Friday around 05:00 we'll start rolling it out, I don't know how long it's going to go, at least till 09:00, then Saturday morning from nine to probably six or seven. There'll be two films that we'll be showing and there's 10 speakers.
Speaker 1:Let me just give you the rundown since I'm doing the commercial. Gary Stuber and Montlou Gonzalez, Derek Gilbert, former abductee and author Karen Wolkinson, author's Alan Didio, Vicki Joy Hammerson, former abductee Al Mathews, Tim Alburrito, Josh Peck, Larry Raglan and of course yours truly, L. A. Marzulli. I will be doing a Q and A at the end but Karen you know so much is going on.
Speaker 1:I know you've watched 'Age of Disclosure' the film. I want to start there. I mean, I saw that film, I fell out of my chair and that's when I said, we've got to stand up and push back against this narrative. Not in an ugly way, not in a disparaging way, but to say, wait a minute, wait a minute, there's another paradigm here that people are overlooking and that's the biblical perspective. And that's of course the paradigm that we hold to, that these are not extraterrestrials from some faraway galaxy, they are interdimensional raiders, as Gary Steerman likes to call them.
Speaker 1:Speak to your thoughts about the Age of Disclosure film.
Speaker 2:Yes, I thought it was a good film in general. I agree. Well done. Watch it. It was very well done.
Speaker 2:I was thrilled to see that there were Air Force personnel testifying on the film, because that's something new. We haven't seen that before. That's one of the branches of military that's remained very tight lipped, because they're so involved in the whole program, as it were, and then talking about the legacy program, I found that very interesting as well, that they were bringing out more vocabulary about these programs that have remained hidden for so long. Clearly, it is a controlled disclosure, it's a controlled drip of information to us, but at least it's coming out, and so that is positive. Every time there's another film or another congressional hearing, which the word on the street is there will be another one in January, so keep an eye out for that y'all.
Speaker 2:Every time there's more, it just gives more credence to the things we've been saying all along. It proves the things that I've been saying have happened to me, have happened not just to me, but to hundreds and thousands of others, maybe even millions of others, you know. My guess is one in two people have probably had an experience of some sort, so there are a lot of people that need information, but I agree with you that what was missing was anything coming from a biblical perspective? No, no, From my list. Negative when it came to that.
Speaker 2:In your newsletter this past month, I wrote a bit about that, and quoted what they were saying. It was quite negative, unfortunately, and did not provide anyone with the guidance that I think is necessary for people to understand what we've been saying all along about who and what these things are.
Speaker 1:So let's go to that. Who and what are, you know, these interdimensional raiders, these intruders? Those are two sayings that Gary Steerman called interdimensional raiders and intruders because that's exactly what they are. Are these really you know are space brothers and I just love, let me digress here, I just love, in fact I've got my but I digress mug right here folks, there you go. Al Mathies in our film, on our 10 box DVD set on the whole UFO phenomenon.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Gil Zimmerman, my business partner. There's 10 films, we're the only Christian ministry, whatever you want to call us, that has 10 films on the whole UFO phenomenon. And I'm boasting we did this because the Lord quickened us to get it done. So, there's close encounters of the first, second, third and fourth kind, the experts weigh in. I sit down with Francesco Carreira, New Age guy, head of Exopolitics Portugal Preston Dennett, New Age guy and we love these guys, they're friends, but they have a different perspective.
Speaker 1:So that's why the experts weigh in and we cross swords and that's okay. We do it in a loving way, we're not trying to disparage anyone. After that we get into the abduction phenomena and that's where Karen is the tent pole, she's the centerpiece of it. And Al Matthews, I just came back out of the rabbit hole here, Matthews looks right at the camera at the very end and you can hear the passion in his voice, you can hear it how he emphatically states, These are not our space brothers. I want you to speak to that, please.
Speaker 1:What are these, and where were they from?
Speaker 2:The entities that are kidnapping children, adults, mutilating animals, humans, carrying out terrible experiments, stealing fetuses these are the fallen ones. These are the fallen angels of the Bible. These are the ones that fell, the ones that are creatures we call angels it's kind of a misnomer, but we call them angelic creatures the Beneha Elohim, the sons of God and they are the ones that fell that have gone against God and against his way and had joined the darkness, the dark side, and that we know that, you know, as we both like to say, you know, they're, from our friend, the late, pastor excuse me.
Speaker 1:It's alright.
Speaker 2:Sorry. But they're outnumbered two to one, you know, and Satan shall lose Right. Our money. And, yeah. And it's These are the fallen.
Speaker 2:These are the fallen angles of the Bible. It's that simple. And when people look at someone like me, people, pastors, people in the church and say, I don't believe you. I don't believe these things happen to you. This is just too hard for me to believe.
Speaker 2:I'm like, But you will you believe the Bible is the inherent word of God, right? So you believe the angelic beings in the Bible, who eat and drink with people, who walk through walls, who walk through fire, who break chains, who make donkeys talk, all these things that happen in the Bible, you believe. You believe that they talked to Mary, that she was able to give birth to, you know, the Son of God. You believe all these things happened, but you can't believe me when I'm telling you I've been attacked by these same entities, the ones that fell, the evil ones. How is it any different?
Speaker 2:We're talking about angelic beings. Some of them fell, some of them didn't. The ones that fell are out there wreaking havoc on mankind. And I like what Gary Steuerman said, that he's exactly right. You know, they are unwelcome intruders, and they are hurting the people of this world.
Speaker 2:They are hurting Christians and non Christians alike. And it's very important that we share the information about who they are so people can have answers to who they are and what they're doing and why.
Speaker 1:Great answer and these are trans dimensional raters. It's so funny how it's not funny, it's actually tragic how many in the church won't even look at it and give you the deer in the headlights look. And yet, they're already to tell you about Jesus rose from the dead. Excuse me? Seriously?
Speaker 1:And what do you hang your hat on? How do you know He rose from the dead? What proof can you give me? That's why we have a shameless plug but our film on the Shroud of Torrent, this is God's calling card. This tells you that something happened.
Speaker 1:Of course the skeptic will believe it no matter how much you show. But the deal is, isn't it funny how the Christian not funny, it's tragic, it's pathetic in some ways how the Christian church believes in floating axes, talking donkeys, men that walk on water, word of this change in the wine, storms that are calm with a single word, the bilocation of Philip going from one town to another, the bilocation of Jesus when they're out in the ship, out in the little boat in the Sea Of Galilee, He calms the storm and then suddenly they were at their destination. That's called bilocation, so deal with it. And I'm not going to apologize for using that term, that's exactly what it is. They're over here and in an instant they move over here.
Speaker 1:What about when Jesus is tempted in the desert, right? He's in the desert forty days, forty nights without food, the dragon, Satan himself, comes and where do they go? Where do they go? They go to the temple in Jerusalem. How does he get to the temple?
Speaker 1:By location. You see, we've got this truncated view of the supernatural, we refuse to really believe what we're reading, and it certainly can't happen now in modernity. Oh, please, LA, all those things died out. And then you've got Karen, you've got Emile, you've got Al Matthews, you've got Angela, and countless others that I have spoken to all, all of them have been taken against their will. Just like Daniel two forty three states, just like the days of Noah.
Speaker 1:And I'll hand it back to you. Jesus warns us to be like the days of Noah. Everybody knows what He's talking about two thousand years ago. Oh, you mean the fallen ages are going to come back? Exactly.
Speaker 1:They're going to be mixing the seed? Exactly. And then we've got the sign off as Daniel two forty three. So, speak to that, please.
Speaker 2:Yes, and two things important here. One, why is it important that we understand that this is true? Why is it important that there's more than a very small handful of pastors who actually believe me? Mean, solid for them. I've met with them, I've presented before them, and they still don't believe that this happened to me.
Speaker 2:Why would I lie? I'm not gaining from this. What I am gaining is the opportunity to help others, and for me, that's worth everything, But, you know, mostly I gained ridicule and criticism, but I'm not going to stop because this is what God has put in our past, and I know you understand this, and you are the first pastor that I that believed me, that understood what I was talking about. And it, hallelujah, it was a breakthrough moment, because the only place I was getting answers before was from the New Age belief system, and people are still going there for answers. And that's why this is important, because as Christians, if we don't understand our Bible, if we don't understand where this is in our Bible, and we don't understand how to address it from a Biblical perspective, and offer the kindness, love, support, caring and healing that people like me who have been through these things need, then we are going to lose people to the face that are not going to bring them salvation, and we are going to lose the opportunity to minister to others, to share the gospel with others, and to share the glorious salvation that we are offered through Jesus in His sacrifice and His completed work on the cross.
Speaker 2:But we are turning our nose up at that by not understanding that this is real, it is in the Bible, it is biblical, and it has been around longer than we have, and we have a responsibility to share that truth and not turn away from it and not turn our noses up because it's not comfortable.
Speaker 1:Wow, I mean, that's really well said. And I just love the passion that you have, to reach other people. You know you're right about this, I mean people that have these experiences and they'll go to the new oh you're open, it's okay' and I'm not going to mention any name but there's people out there who are promulgating this and saying, you know, actually telling people to meditate and call these entities in. You know, they're benevolent. You know, all the cat that's all the government.
Speaker 1:Excuse me, it's not all the government. I mean, how people need to look, in our film on 'Catty Mutulations' and I know you've seen it very dark, darkest film, it's like 'Hell's Kitchen' that's where we take the audience and unfortunately there is no way out. There's no, you know, happy moment at the end, it's not. There's nothing happy or good about it at all. And when I sat down with Rancher Miller on his ranch, 16 mutilations in twenty years, 16 in twenty years.
Speaker 1:And in front of this property, the road is a two lane road out in middle of nowhere. Middle of nowhere. It's not like you get 100 cars a day middle of nowhere. There's been 12 fatalities. I think it's 12 fatalities twenty years.
Speaker 1:The statistics of that are absurd right in front of his house. This road's dead straight, it's got a slight incline, dead straight, nothing weird, nothing weird, 12 fatalities? I think it was 12. I'm really bad with numbers, but I'm pretty sure it was 12 fatalities since he's been there. You know, it's just like, what are we looking at here?
Speaker 1:Very dark, very nefarious. So, you know, meditate and call these things in. And how do you equate the counter mutilations? The government is involved on some level, I get that, the military, but we don't even know that. It's all hearsay and there was a mutilation out of a ranch in Texas, Mike Hamilton was on the show and talked about it.
Speaker 1:Karen, this whole thing just disintegrated. The carcass disintegrates, there's nothing left. There's absolutely nothing left of it at all over like two weeks, not even the bones, Everything just disintegrated and evaporated. I mean, what are we looking at here? So, age of disclosure, I want to circle back to that.
Speaker 1:Because they're saying that in the very beginning of the film we are not alone, we are not alone, we are not alone. So you get Marco Rubio, we are not alone. You get Admiral Gauladet, we are not alone. You get Luis Elizondo, we are not alone. Christopher Mellon, we are not alone.
Speaker 1:To name a few. And it just builds and builds and builds. And you've got to remember this film, big budget, and it's all heads of government and ex military, and they're saying we're not alone, we're not alone. And that's why we're holding on. I realize this sounds like a broken record, but this is to folks, this is really important.
Speaker 1:You've got to understand that it's happening and it's coming down now, especially with Spielberg's movie coming up, and I want to talk about that in a second, this summer, which, you know, once again spitting it. They've got the nun going, the nun's voice is going, Surely God would have made other people in the universe. Strawman argument, you don't know, know, Gnu Jerusalem comes here, not to Zena reticulate. So, age of disclosure: we are not alone, we are not alone, we are not alone. Karen, you'd think my phone would be ringing off the hook?
Speaker 1:Flatlined, flatlined, just like always. Church is completely asleep. You would think that the pastors locally around here would be calling me up, they know who I am. Flatlined, not a clue. And this is really problematic because if, and this is what I want you to address, Trump gets up like he did last night and says, I have an announcement to make, and behind him are the Joint Chiefs of Staff and maybe some other people like Marco Rubio and others.
Speaker 1:We are not alone. We have been visited by these entities for thousands of years. We are not alone. And then the Pope chimes in and says the same thing, and then other heads of state mimic Trump and that's it. And two Thessalonians, you know, chapter two, boom, the great falling away, the apostasia, speak to that, please.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely. I mean, this is just shining a bright light on the problem, all of this, because we are not, as a church, prepared to honor the truth that no word really says. And instead of understanding the Bible, we're still just picking out the pretty parts and ignoring the rest. And even when it comes to our fellow brothers and sisters who are going through things like what I've gone through, we're still picking out the other parts and ignoring the things that explain what happened to me. And I now, you know, we talked earlier last month about the DNA evidence that's come out, how now there's DNA proof that those of us who've had these missing pregnancies, how fetal microchimerism allows the mother's body to retain a certain amount of the DNA from the child they're carrying, and that DNA stays in the body for a certain amount of time, and that proves and they've done the testing now that proves that there are those of us who have this quote unquote alien DNA in our DNA mixed in because it doesn't make us nonhuman, it doesn't make us canares, it doesn't make us nyfeline, don't get me wrong, but that DNA signature stays behind.
Speaker 2:Infiltrates our bones, it infiltrates our organs, and all of these things, let alone with all the exposure those of us who've been taking it had, create tons of medical problems. I mean, medical problems y'all wouldn't imagine, you know, and that can't be explained. You know, the doctors can't explain why there's burns on the backs of my retinas that don't make sense. Every time they look at him, like, are you in a Nick radiation accident? What happened?
Speaker 2:You go, Well Well, yeah. I mean, you know, the bone broth, things like that. There is so much proof, but still the church does not want to believe that this is happening. What more do I have to do? My body is physically dying from what happened to me, and people still don't believe.
Speaker 2:It's in the Bible. You believe that Jesus died on the cross for our sins. You believe that He rose until the third day. You believe that He walked through the wall, sat down and said, Hey guys, I'm hungry. Let's eat.
Speaker 2:You believe these things. But you won't believe that the angels who fell are wreaking havoc on the earth even after the Garden Of Eden when we know that's where it all started. After Genesis three fifteen declared that there's a seed war after Genesis six showed us that they were already procreating what the daughters have been. What else do we need? What else can I do to prove to people in the church that this is really happening, that this is real, and we need to be prepared to speak to it because everyone else is ready?
Speaker 2:Yeah, everybody else. The LORD Eenridge Way wins overnight, people in the alternative churches are ready, and they're gonna be bringing people in by the thousands, because people want, like you said, when the President gets up there, and says, hey folks, we're not alone, people are gonna want answers. Yep. And the church is not, the Christian church is not offering answers yet. We are trying, but we are one small group of people doing our best.
Speaker 2:But the Christian churches in general, as a whole, are not offering the answers that people need, and I am just so passionate about this because people need these answers. I'm just, when this comes out and it's widely accepted, not just those that must have been taken, but the people who haven't are going to be scared and they're going to need comfort. We, as a church, are responsible for comforting our brothers and sisters. We have to meet them where they are. We have to help them understand what the Bible says about and help them understand how to have eternal life with God through salvation.
Speaker 2:It's all there folks and this is our opportunity to share the Gospel in a way like we've never had before, and we're going to miss it because we're not willing to say the hard things, and that hurts my heart.
Speaker 1:And this is the perfect segue. This is why we're holding our virtual conference on January 16 or the seventeenth. Karen, you'll be speaking, you're one of the speakers, it's all virtual, it's a pre record, but it's new material, it's a presentation, she'll be speaking at forty five minutes to an hour or whatever. Karen, what are you going to be bringing to that?
Speaker 2:Absolutely, yes, I'm so excited about it, and thank you for the opportunity. I will be speaking about exactly some of the things we talked about today, the stigma that exists, about the dangers of not understanding the truth, about the truths that exist in the Bible that help people understand how to explain this. Not just saying, Hey, we need to explain this, say, Here's how. Here's some verses you can reference. Here are some steps you can take to help share this truth, so that people have this information to take forward.
Speaker 2:And I want to talk more about why it's so dangerous not to have this, and some examples of that. And also a little bit about the DNA evidence that's come forward, and what it's like from the point of view of I'm an abductee, and I hope I can get all of this in. I'll try. No, you will. I worry.
Speaker 2:Five minutes to an hour. But from the point of view of an abductee, based on what I've learned, what the ones who took me taught me, and then based that with the evidence that was shown in this latest movie, it'll be easier for me to explain how do we go through walls? How do we go through windows? Because those pieces have really kind of coalesced and come together, and I think I can explain it to everyone in a way that will help it make more sense for ones, and help kind of because that's one of the big sticking points for people, and I'm like, just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Exactly.
Speaker 2:But maybe I can help bring a little shed a little more light on that too, so that's what I hope to share with everyone at the conference, and hopefully give them some tools to take forward to just help more people and do more good with the information that we already have in the Bible, but we may not be fully aware of.
Speaker 1:Well, Karen, that's great. Really looking forward to it, and of course, once again, to deception2026.com. Up today, nineteen point nine nine virtual conference, 10 speakers. I don't want to miss that. And the reason why we're doing it is because it's happening all around us.
Speaker 1:Films, movies, you know, Bret Baer sat down with the director of agent disclosure. I mean, this is Bret Baer on Fox News. How does that even happen for crying out loud? But he's there talking about disclosure, talking about what's going on. Wake up, church.
Speaker 1:Wake up. I am available for not conferences. We're off the road because we reach thousands of people here every single day with our daily show. And it's a great, it's a conservation of our resources. So I'll come on anybody's podcast, talk about this thing.
Speaker 1:Pastors, if you want one hour moment with me on the phone, just shoot me an email and I'll set up a time with you. We don't charge for any of this. But we're off the road for the most part. We're completely not doing conferences anymore, which is why this is a virtual conference. It's a better use of our resources.
Speaker 1:Karen, thanks for coming on the record. Always great to see you and we'll be recording your presentation here soon. Once again, folks, deception 2026 deception 2026. I'll be back again tomorrow with another show. Folks, Eli Marzulli here.
Speaker 1:What happens if our President Donald J. Trump makes an announcement from the White House? He looks right at the camera and he says, We are not alone in the universe. How does that affect you? How does that affect your faith?
Speaker 1:How does that affect what you believe in? Folks, we have the answers that will shed light on this controversial subject: THE GREAT UFO UNMASKING THE STRONG DELUSION, January. You'll hear from renowned experts like Gary Stearman, Mondo Gonzalez, Derek Hilbert, former abductee and author Carol Wilkinson, authors Alan Didio, Vicki Joy Hammerson, former abductee Alan Matthews, Jim Alberino, Josh Peck, Larry Ragler, and of course, L. A. Marzulli.
Speaker 1:Aren't yourself at the truth from a Biblical perspective? Go to: ww.deception2026.com I'll see you there.