Ask Ashley

Moving fast can get you to the wrong answer faster. Destiny Young makes that case from her own marathon training, and applies it to how leaders support people through constant AI-driven change. Destiny is Senior Manager, Experience Quality Programs at ActiveCampaign and co-chair of Women of AC. She talks with Ashley Russo about a career that ran from graphic design at a potato chip company to 911 dispatch to leadership in tech, and what that path taught her about empathy, self-care, and helping employees use their voice.


Chapters:

00:00 Welcome and show intro

00:43 Meet Destiny Young

02:25 A nontraditional career path

06:07 Formative mentors and command presence

10:24 Building connection in a remote company

12:41 Supporting teams through constant change

15:03 Advocating for women in the workplace

18:01 Well-being and AC's employee resources

21:16 Self-care hacks and the sour candy trick

23:34 Therapy, self-awareness, and professional growth

25:18 One shift for business leaders: moving fast vs moving well

28:47 Advice to her younger self

30:53 Closing thanks


You can follow Destiny Young here:

LinkedIn - https://linkedin.com/in/destiny-young-24b6a373


Learn more about ActiveCampaign:

Website - https://activecampaign.com

What is Ask Ashley?

In Ask Ashley, Founder, Thoughtleader and award-winning media personality Ashley Russo sits down with leaders who bring purpose and humanity to business.

Each episode explores how people navigate uncertainty, lead with empathy, and create meaningful change in their organizations and lives. Listeners gain practical insights on resilience, leadership, and financially confident decision-making amid disruption.

This podcast is brought to you by Ask Ashley. If you’re interested in building a confident, purpose-driven wealth plan, reach out to Ashley at ashley.russo@nm.com.

00:00:01:19 - 00:00:30:00
Ashley
Welcome to Ask Ashley, the podcast, where we shine a light on the unsung heroes of the workplace. I'm your host, Ashley Russo, financial AI board member, thought leader and wealth management advisor. Each week we sit down with inspiring leaders, exploring their journeys, motivations, and the real challenges they face, from job insecurity to the evolving role of AI in a world where many feel overlooked.

00:00:30:01 - 00:00:43:06
Ashley
These guests are building hope and connection for their colleagues. Join us as we uncover their stories and discover how they're making a difference, one conversation at a time.

00:00:43:08 - 00:00:56:17
Ashley
Hi everybody! I am here with just a fabulous human miss Destiny who has such an interesting story, perspective, life. I'm so excited you're here today. Please introduce yourself to everybody.

00:00:56:19 - 00:01:09:11
Destiny
Thank you so much, Ashley. I really appreciate that. And I'm just so happy to be able to be on this podcast with you and to have these conversations. So I'm really looking forward to just jumping in and seeing where the conversation goes.

00:01:09:11 - 00:01:40:15
Destiny
But I'm I'm Destiny Young. I'm the senior manager of experience quality programs at ActiveCampaign. So currently my day job kind of sits at the intersection of quality assurance and customer sediment, which historically was focused on the human service side of things. But it's more recently integrated into AI agent performance and product, which is really exciting. But we take the data and insights and findings and we turn that into bettering customer experiences.

00:01:40:15 - 00:02:07:19
Destiny
And then sitting next to that. But separate is something that I do in addition at ActiveCampaign. And it's my passion around employee advocacy, engagement and culture. And that's through the Di work as co-chair of women of AC. So that people first perspective. It's it's led me to earn two coaching certifications and it just continues to shape how I support both the customer and employee experience.

00:02:07:22 - 00:02:25:23
Ashley
And you're not busy at all. Let's just put it like that. That's going on over never. I'd love to start at the beginning. You walk me through your career path and what inspired you to pursue a leadership role, especially when we're talking about tech and employee experience?

00:02:26:00 - 00:02:54:14
Destiny
Yeah. So I have a colorfully nontraditional career path is what I would call it. And at the at the time, I didn't quite know where it was going to lead me. And so I graduated from 2007 from Arizona State University, Go Devils. But at that time it was media arts was my major computer animation. And so I really wanted to take that passion and turn that into my career.

00:02:54:14 - 00:03:21:00
Destiny
And so I did graphic design for about a year at a potato chip company. So it was lovely because I had access to as much potato chips as I possibly could want. But after about a year, there was this nagging of I wanted to make a bigger impact and give back to my community. And so I completely sidestepped and tested for a local police agency to become a 911 dispatcher.

00:03:21:00 - 00:03:50:10
Destiny
And so that job right there really makes you feel pretty resilient and have a high tolerance for change and stress and just craziness. And so I did that for three years. It was shift work. It was weekends, holidays. And so naturally, as much as it was filling that cup of wanting to be able to be there for others and give back to the community, it was hard work.

00:03:50:10 - 00:04:23:21
Destiny
And so at that time, my mom had taught me that PayPal was opening up a second contact center here in Chandler, Arizona, and she thought that the tech industry was probably a good industry to start exploring more of. So 2011, I started out on the phones front line in the trenches, talking to small to medium sized business owners, and I really equate that year of that customer experience and listening to business owners with their pain points and their challenges and their friction.

00:04:23:23 - 00:04:55:21
Destiny
It shapes me to have this passion around the the customer experience. And so through some mentorships that happened, I was steered in the direction of leadership. And after a year, I moved into a supervisor position there and opened up a back office department at PayPal. And that's really what I would say, set kind of my trajectory for leadership in tech and was helping me to, again, kind of tap into that common thread of how how can I give back?

00:04:55:21 - 00:05:22:07
Destiny
How do I help develop people, how do I return what's been so just graciously provided to me and was at PayPal in leadership for about five years and then moved on and did e-commerce at tech SaaS companies. I did side pivot for a little bit in 2019, moved up to Oregon and was an admissions and business development director for a young adult behavioral and mental health center.

00:05:22:07 - 00:05:51:02
Destiny
So that that was really just another incredible opportunity to work with individuals and be able to help. And 2021 Covid I interviewed. I wanted to get back into the tech space, so I interviewed for the job that I have now here at ActiveCampaign. And really, it's cool to look back because it's like, oh, I see how I got to where I got to and why I'm in the position that I'm in today because I get to tap into the customer experience with doing quality assurance.

00:05:51:02 - 00:06:07:08
Destiny
But then I also get to do the employee advocacy and engagement side of things with the dye work that I do. So it was a beautiful journey and it was an unconventional journey to get there. But yeah, that's that's been my my career trajectory so far.

00:06:07:12 - 00:06:19:21
Ashley
So many questions that can come to one's mind based off that incredible journey I just wanted. So potato chips, do you are you still a big fan to this day? Are you burnt out? I'm just curious.

00:06:20:02 - 00:06:43:20
Destiny
So burnt out, so burnt out. But what is really neat is I. I will go into gas stations and we'll see the packaging and the branding, and it really hasn't changed much, which is surprising, but that's like my, my claim to fame is, oh, I designed that potato chip bag.

00:06:43:22 - 00:07:07:23
Ashley
That's awesome. That's awesome. So I'm curious that with so many different experiences there, what would you say are some of the most formative turning points or potentially challenges that now influence how you showed up, how you now show up for others, including likely what gives you empathy, right when you're engaging with others? Yeah.

00:07:07:23 - 00:07:40:09
Destiny
I, I think that stems to there's there's these moments throughout my career journey where there's there glimmers and it's where these individuals just really stepped in and provided a pathway for me or acted as a guide. And so it's that mentorship opportunities that happens, and being open and listening to feedback that's being delivered to you, or Jarry's window, where sometimes you can't see things about yourself that others can see.

00:07:40:09 - 00:08:02:18
Destiny
And so in this particular instance, I can really think back to there was two individuals early on in my career that showed me through their leadership styles, how I wanted to lead, but also set me on the leadership path. And so one of them was my supervisor at PayPal, and I remember I had been there for a year.

00:08:02:18 - 00:08:25:00
Destiny
I was really excited because I was now eligible to look at other departments and to promote. And at that time, I wanted to be an individual contributor. I wanted to do kind of this what would now be like knowledge based article writing and content creation. And I remember her just kind of looking at me and saying, no, I don't think that's the direction you should go.

00:08:25:00 - 00:08:54:09
Destiny
And so she she was seeing in me something that I wasn't seeing in myself at that time, and that was these leadership qualities and characteristics. And so she then started to mentor me on moving into that particular role. But she was really one that showed up with empathy and with those soft skills and got to know me beyond just destiny as an employee to really kind of understand what it is that motivated me and what I was driven by.

00:08:54:09 - 00:09:24:02
Destiny
And so that's where she she's just such an influential person in my life, mentor in my life. And the other one was her direct boss. We would do what we call skip levels. And so I remember meeting with him and I guess he had been observing maybe some stand ups or huddles where we would actually go stand up and go to a room, and everyone would huddle around for 15 minutes and talk about the day and what we needed to prepare for, for being on the phones and talking with with customers.

00:09:24:02 - 00:09:52:08
Destiny
And I had filled in a couple of times for that particular supervisor that I was just talking about, and he said he was former military, but he said, you have a command presence about you. And I didn't know what that meant at the time, but I was just like, okay. So I went and looked it up, but that again kind of like shaped and molded my path and my direction and how I wanted to show up and pay attention to people which which really is that empathetic trait.

00:09:52:10 - 00:10:24:19
Ashley
I love that, that command presence. I would describe you the same way. And like the most beautiful way, you're very you're engaging, right. You pay attention when you speak. That's fascinating. So it makes sense that that would then lead to being passionate about being the co-chair for for women of ActiveCampaign and building that. So I'm curious, how do you approach building genuine connection interests, especially when we're talking about a remote hybrid type of setting?

00:10:24:21 - 00:10:44:22
Destiny
Yeah, it it can be challenging, right, where we're not in the office space anymore. So we're not having those moments of where you're walking to and from a meeting or you're around what we like to call, you know, the office water cooler and sitting there and chit chatting or somebody just popping into your office. So you have to be really intentional.

00:10:44:22 - 00:11:09:18
Destiny
But I kind of like to flip the challenge on its head a bit and think about all the opportunity that the remote environment does provide for us. And so at ActiveCampaign, we are a global company and I work with just incredible humans around the world that I would have never met otherwise. I our paths would have never crossed in this lifetime.

00:11:09:18 - 00:11:40:01
Destiny
And one of my nearest and dearest, who is now one of my nearest and dearest friends, is another manager, but he's Irish. He lives in Dublin. I have gone to visit him in Ireland because of this online friendship that we've built through work. And so in relation to women of AC, we have a online form where 300 of our members at any given time are able to pop in there and connect with each other and build community.

00:11:40:01 - 00:12:03:02
Destiny
And so just I think two days ago I saw an Instagram reel about women in the workplace. It was a really good message. So just from my phone, I'm able to, with the flick of my finger, paste that into our slack form and generate this conversation that's really meaningful. And people feel connected through that, which builds trust, which builds community.

00:12:03:02 - 00:12:22:23
Destiny
And it feels like that person, even if they're all the way across the world, they're sitting right next to you. And so I think that's really where we try to just tap into remote world, and communication can feel like a barrier, but it can also be this really incredible, beautiful way to connect to with people that you wouldn't meet otherwise.

00:12:23:00 - 00:12:41:21
Ashley
I love that outlook. I love that that. Now I'm curious with that, how does the fast changing, fast paced environment affects, you know, providing support and stability when things are truly moving so fast?

00:12:41:23 - 00:13:27:03
Destiny
Yeah, it's it's a that's a really real topic that's happening right now because it's unique where we are all in this together, learning in real time as this. And I'm using AI, the AI transformation, as kind of the change movement that's happening here where there isn't a playbook for this. And so it it can be difficult to find ways to be able to support your employees when you don't have the information or you don't have the knowledge, but being able to provide communication and transparency on what you do know, but also being really raw and organic on what you don't know and what still yet to be figured out.

00:13:27:05 - 00:14:08:21
Destiny
I think making sure that priorities are clear and that there's that North Star, so that when there are things that are constantly shifting, you're able to redirect them back to what that main goal is. And so that I think is really helpful. And then just being able to have like an open and honest space with each other, with your colleagues, with your team, with your direct manager on, hey, this is what I'm feeling because this is hard being in this space right now and trying to navigate all of the change that is coming at us, and you feel like you move one step ahead and then you take two steps back.

00:14:08:21 - 00:14:32:21
Destiny
By the time the next day rolls around, you just go to sleep at night and something changes. And so being able to feel like you have the safety and the relationship to talk through that and sometimes just just vent through it or figure out how am I going to tackle this. And having an ally who can help you figure that out is just all really important right now, because this change in this constant state of change, it's not going away.

00:14:32:21 - 00:14:41:12
Destiny
I think it's just going to continue to get faster and faster and faster. So we have to make sure that we're equipped to be able to handle that and navigate it.

00:14:41:17 - 00:15:03:11
Ashley
Speaking of navigating changing environment, creating safety in this environment where the word diversity, you know, and inclusion can be heated or polarized, especially in the business world. How are you navigating that and continuing to advocate for everyone around you?

00:15:03:12 - 00:15:29:00
Destiny
There's a lot of really, really important conversations that that are happening right now around diversity, and I feel really fortunate to be able to kind of sit in those conversations and hold space and have them. And my focus in particular is around women sitting as co-chair on the women of AC. That's that's really what I'm dialed into and paying attention to.

00:15:29:00 - 00:15:58:19
Destiny
But there are just so many other issues that need to be tackled as well. And so with women in particular, there's conversations happening around, gosh, traditional gender roles, pay gaps, cultural expectations, women in the workplace, women in tech, women in leadership, women in a male dominated industry. Like, there's just so much to unpack. And it's really incredible that we get to be at this moment in time where we're having these conversations.

00:15:58:19 - 00:16:30:09
Destiny
But to your point, there's a lot of feeling behind them, and rightfully so. And so how do we navigate that or bring that into the business world? Because it's really important that we highlight that. So for me in particular, being co-chair, I feel that there is a responsibility to be the voice for the larger community and share, whether that's my own experiences, whether that's observations, whether that's just learning, whether that's from things that are coming up in conversations with others.

00:16:30:09 - 00:16:55:00
Destiny
But at ActiveCampaign, I believe it was 44% of our employee base is women. So we're on we're on the right track. And there's still there's still work to be done there. But with them also having this Di department, it's since been rebranded I so it's inclusion impact and engagement. So I want to make sure I'm calling it the correct department.

00:16:55:01 - 00:17:16:02
Destiny
But having this team that does embrace the hard conversations and wants to have them and doesn't shy away from them, that has been really healing to actually be a part of that, because it can be really scary in the business world to say, I want to raise my hand about this thing that I've noticed, but I also don't want it to come back on me.

00:17:16:02 - 00:17:36:18
Destiny
And so being just an advocate, if you don't feel comfortable doing that, finding someone who can do that for you, because there are those individuals that are out there that are doing the work and we're not going away anytime soon. So we're just going to continue to get to get louder and drive this change.

00:17:36:20 - 00:18:01:23
Ashley
I love that, I love that, and, you know, seeking of of addressing challenges head on. I want to jump back to something you said earlier in reference to AI. I'm curious, with so many changes happening so quickly, especially connected to AI, what are some of the top challenges you're seeing today in supporting employees and and how are you dressing them?

00:18:02:00 - 00:18:02:20
Ashley
Yeah.

00:18:02:23 - 00:18:31:06
Destiny
I there's there's a lot of of challenges that I think are coming up because of this AI transformation era. And one of them is just well-being, I would say. And that's because you and I had chatted about this a little bit previously. But all of this stress is not just coming from internal right now. It's also external in the world, and it's all influencing each other.

00:18:31:07 - 00:18:56:00
Destiny
Right. And so there's a lot that employees and humans are just having to carry and hold on a daily basis. So I think one of the challenges that has come up more and more and more is about self-care, and how do we make sure that our employees are being taken care of? They're taking care of themselves. They're feeling like their manager is taking care of them, the company is taking care of them.

00:18:56:00 - 00:19:20:09
Destiny
And so finding ways to be able to really tap into what those resources are when you are having these conversations, but also making sure that you're opening up space to be able to have the conversations. And so I know at ActiveCampaign, there are so many offerings just on the benefits side alone. So we have access to mental and behavioral health services.

00:19:20:09 - 00:19:42:22
Destiny
We also the company gives us a subscription to the calm app. And not only is it for us, it's for five of our family and friends too. So they're like, we're taking care of you. But we also want to take care of your network as well. So for volunteer days, we have flexible time off. And then the one in particular that I just got to take advantage of was our sabbatical program.

00:19:42:22 - 00:20:01:17
Destiny
So after five years, you get to take a month, a paid month off. Not only do you get a paid month off, you get a stipend to spend because the company is saying, please go do whatever you'd like to do to make your sabbatical epic. So for mine, I traveled the whole time and it really was incredible and it was able to do something for me.

00:20:01:17 - 00:20:40:02
Destiny
After working for ActiveCampaign for five years. But also, just as importantly, it's the Di efforts that I've been talking about. And that ActiveCampaign has those eight employee resource groups that touch from active abilities to women of AC to dads of AC to actively black. So yeah, to I guess to circle back to to your question about what are the challenges, it's making sure that employees are taking care of themselves, but they also know what's available to them to be able to show up for themselves so that they can show up for others so that they can show up for the company.

00:20:40:02 - 00:20:50:07
Destiny
And this will all create a synergy where hopefully, you know, everyone is feeling good and feeling seen and heard and taken care of.

00:20:50:09 - 00:21:16:10
Ashley
This, this, this leads me to a question, and you may have answered part of it already, but I'm curious, as someone who obviously pours into other humans at a very high level, what are the life hacks that you know you practice or those around you practice to to make sure you can show up as your best self? Clearly it sounds like taking some time is on the list.

00:21:16:15 - 00:21:18:07
Ashley
What else would you add to that?

00:21:18:09 - 00:21:43:03
Destiny
Yeah, definitely take your time. Take your time off. But no, it's it's it doesn't even have to be something as extravagant as taking a month off and going and traveling the world. I think there's these smaller life hacks that really are helpful. And for me and my colleagues as well, I know it's equipping our teams with self-care practices, and that can look different for everyone.

00:21:43:03 - 00:22:05:10
Destiny
But we've brought in employee who was a yoga instructor, and she walked everyone through self meditation and how to be able to do that for yourself. I know in my team meetings I've talked about the different types of meditative breathing. You can do the box breathing, which is the Navy Seals when they use that for high stress situation, or the 478 breathing that's done.

00:22:05:10 - 00:22:33:06
Destiny
We talk about body scans. It's it's really more on the physiological and holistic side of things is what we try to bring in. And part of that is getting out of all of the noise that's going on up in your head and kind of dropping down into your body. And so one of my most favorite ones, and it's going to sound kind of out there, but it works and it's easy and it's very accessible.

00:22:33:06 - 00:23:12:08
Destiny
Is have sour candy near you or a sour drink. And so if you're starting to feel that overwhelm or that anxiousness or spinning out of control, if you take a bite of a sour candy or take a sip of a sour drink instantaneously, your body will have a physiological response where it's going to pull you out of your mental headspace and noise and drop you down into your body, because you shift focus to that sour taste that now is in your mouth, and it allows you to be present, and it allows you to just focus on the now.

00:23:12:08 - 00:23:19:19
Destiny
And I'm safe and I'm okay. And now what do I need to do to get myself to where I can feel better?

00:23:19:21 - 00:23:34:19
Ashley
Well, I'm my entire mouth, by the way. I just pictured it and I feel like I'm being the Sour Academy. But you're right. I got right into my body. That's a great little trick. Thank you for that. Thank you.

00:23:34:21 - 00:23:50:10
Ashley
If you clearly engage in self work right in your own development, and I'm curious, how does that personal healing translate into your professional growth? There's one support the other. Are they totally separate?

00:23:50:12 - 00:24:36:04
Destiny
For me, I am I am a huge advocate of therapy. And so I really feel like through a therapeutic lens, on top of the self-development pieces, you it really allows you to show up just as a different human in the world, whether that's personally or professionally. And so it's so, so important to have someone who is neutral and biased observer of your life and be able to reflect back to you, maybe some things you don't want to hear, but also the good, and to have a cheerleader in somebody in your corner and through that work which which I've been doing for a really long time and probably will continue to do for the rest of

00:24:36:04 - 00:25:05:14
Destiny
my life, just because I feel like it's such an important thing to have you develop these skills of the self-awareness or EQ, you gain different perspective, you start to understand humans and how we work, and so that allows you to be able to take that into other areas of your life, whether that's in relationships or in professional situations, to where you just have a better, more well-rounded understanding of the nuance of what it is to be a human.

00:25:05:14 - 00:25:18:07
Destiny
And you're able to, I feel, just drop deeper into those moments and into those conversations and into those relationships because of that awareness that you gained from that self-development or therapeutic work.

00:25:18:09 - 00:25:45:00
Ashley
I feel like that should be a hashtag drop deeper. You know, that's that's really great. That's really great. Thank you. Thanks. So if you could especially, you know, back to this fast paced, quick moving world, if you could, you know, wave a magic wand and shift one perception or habit among business leaders today. What would it be?

00:25:45:06 - 00:26:13:15
Destiny
This is unconventional, but I'm going to say it. I'm going to go there because it's so contradictory to how the world is moving right now. But I would say that moving fast doesn't always mean moving well. And there are times where if you are moving so quickly, it's only going to get you to the wrong answer quicker. And the best analogy that I have for this, because I feel like that's kind of like, whoa.

00:26:13:16 - 00:26:36:22
Destiny
Why are you saying this? I'm sure people, people could wonder, is a training for a marathon. So I'm a runner. I have ran a half marathons and I did do one one marathon. But to get to that end result of being able to run that marathon successfully, that was six months of prep work and training. I didn't just open up the door and go run.

00:26:36:23 - 00:26:58:07
Destiny
I would have hurt myself very badly if I just tried to run 26 miles in one sitting. And so it was these weeks and days of training that looked very different. It was walking, it was tempo runs, it was sprint runs, it was long distance runs and building on that over time. But almost equally important was the rest and recovery days.

00:26:58:07 - 00:27:19:09
Destiny
Two and so I feel like there needs to be more of an ebb and flow that happens where there are some weeks where you need to sprint and you need to put your foot on the gas, but then also allowing employees that opportunity to recover to so that they can come back better. And through that methodology. I was able to go and complete my marathon.

00:27:19:09 - 00:27:49:20
Destiny
My goal was to run the whole thing, which I did, but it was because it was really intentional and going fast and then going slow and then somewhere in the middle. And so that's just something that I think we it's easy to get caught up in the craziness of, of the world that we're living in, and everything is so accessible and easy to access and moving so quickly that we really do have to be intentional about.

00:27:49:21 - 00:27:53:19
Destiny
Okay. Sometimes it makes sense to to take the foot off the gas.

00:27:53:21 - 00:28:17:16
Ashley
Oh, I feel like you're you're speaking directly to me on this. I love it. I mean, to a degree, you can almost program yourself or get addicted to the the fast pace and that feels like success. But in reality, their success and being able to slow down, there's discipline in being able to slow down and that can actually bring out greater results.

00:28:17:16 - 00:28:47:18
Ashley
And I personally love that call out. And I know in a moment in time like this, that's something that all of us need to hear. So thank you for saying that. Thank you. Yeah. For my final question here. My favorite question, knowing everything, you know, now, you know, with all the life experience that you have, the journey that you've been on, if you can say anything to your younger self now knowing everything, you know, what would you say?

00:28:47:20 - 00:28:56:10
Destiny
Oh, I, I, I would tell her to be confidently and fearlessly, uniquely you.

00:28:56:10 - 00:28:59:17
Destiny
And that.

00:28:59:17 - 00:29:21:03
Destiny
Comes from years and years of people pleasing, of being the high achiever, of getting good grades in school, of not taking my foot off of the pedal, of feeling like I had to show up a certain way. And I'm really happy to report now that I am at a company and at a place where I feel like I can be myself.

00:29:21:03 - 00:29:47:08
Destiny
But that has been such a journey to to get there. And I think oftentimes when when individuals are starting out and younger in their careers, they just want to be a sponge and they want to learn from everyone, which you should. But the advice that I have is if you have interviewed and been selected for a position, you were already qualified for the position just by receiving that interview.

00:29:47:08 - 00:30:16:19
Destiny
It then comes down to who is the best for this position. So you have a skill set. There is something that you provide. There is a level of expertise for that particular role that you have been hired into. So don't shy away from speaking up and sharing your knowledge and your experience. Regardless of whether your entry level or your tenured, everyone should be able to use their voice and use it authentically and feel really confident around that.

00:30:16:19 - 00:30:30:23
Destiny
And so yeah, I think that's something I would definitely go back and and redo or tell my younger self, along with giving her giving her a hug to, but to just not be afraid to use your voice again.

00:30:31:00 - 00:30:53:15
Ashley
Such a beautiful seven, and especially in this moment in time, and it's interesting to go back and be able to tell your younger self that knowing what you know now, what a powerful position to be in and how proud younger you is likely of now you, with everything you've gone through, accomplished and again how you go back and pour into others.

00:30:53:17 - 00:31:07:23
Ashley
What a beautiful journey destiny you are just, you know, friends for life here you were just breath of fresh air, a beautiful, beautiful, shining light. And I am so happy to know you.

00:31:08:00 - 00:31:18:17
Destiny
Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. And just again, thank you for wanting to get to know me. I really do appreciate that and I'm so glad I was able to come on today.

00:31:18:19 - 00:31:22:00
Ashley
Well, cheers to you. Cheers to all of your hard work.

00:31:22:01 - 00:31:22:21
Destiny
Thank you.