It’s ALL Starting to Crumble. Here’s How Vaxx Tyrants Could Face Military Tribunals.

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Seth Holehouse: 00:02

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So since the beginning of the COVID pandemic, we've realized that for a lot of us that there are some very bad people that have a lot of control in this world and if you dig into their plans enough you you start to understand that their plan is to get rid of a lot of us and again this used to be a conspiracy years back but now we're seeing it play out in front of us. If we look at what's happening with the died suddenly, with the increase in, you know, young adult deaths, the increase in myocarditis and heart problems, all this, you can see that there's something bigger going on. It wasn't just some accidental problem because of a rushed vaccine.

Seth Holehouse: 00:48

There's a much more sinister plan. And I'm not sure about you, but for me, the one thing that I've wanted more than anything is justice. I want to see the evil people that are perpetuating this genocidal plan agenda. I want to see them brought to justice. And it just so happens that there are two very significant cases that have recently come to light, both one one out of the government in Switzerland, the other with the Thai royal family that could do exactly that.

Seth Holehouse: 01:19

And then look, as you if you know me, I'm not someone that pushes hopium. I'm not telling you that everything's gonna be okay and that the Patriots are in control. I try to be very realistic about where we're at, and I really try to vet the information that I bring you. So today I'm gonna be sitting down with attorney Todd Callender, and he's gonna walk us through the significance of what's happening with happening with these legal cases and how this could literally lead to military tribunals where we see people get extradited, arrested, and executed. Like that's really what's on the table here.

Seth Holehouse: 01:53

It sounds far fetched because we're we're used to the the evil people controlling the court systems and everything. But as you'll see in the interview, there are some significant changes that have happened that really changed that whole situation and really opens the evil people up to some serious, serious judgment, which is gonna be very good. But folks, before we get started, make sure you're following me on social media. Look, I'm most active these days on Telegram, the search for Man in America or Twitter at Man in America US and then Truth Social as Man in America. Also, every show also goes up as a podcast.

Seth Holehouse: 02:33

So if you want to listen instead of watch, just go to your favorite podcast app, whether it's Apple Podcasts or Spotify or Podbean, search for Man in America, you'll find me on there. And if you really want to make my day, you leave me a positive review on those podcast app, it really helps me to reach more people. So folks, let's go ahead and dive in this interview with attorney Todd Callender. Alright, Todd, it is such a pleasure and an honor to have you back on the show. Thank you so much for joining us today.

Todd Callender: 03:04

It's really wonderful to be with you. Thank you, Seth.

Seth Holehouse: 03:06

Absolutely. So it's fun. It's interesting because our last conversation was it ended up being a really positive discussion about all of the indicators that we saw that the elites or whatever you want to call it, and I don't like using that word because it almost puts them on a pedestal, but the social engineers, the Luciferian communist globalist, whatever you want to refer to them as that they are really panicking actually. And you've been at the center of some recent information's come out and I had to give Sean a huge thumbs up and kind hat tip over at SGT report because he's had two recent episodes with you on talking about some very significant movement in basically in these big pharmaceutical companies finally being brought to justice. And I think that, you know, obviously we'll dig into this, but I think that what's going on is a very, very significant thing.

Seth Holehouse: 04:08

And it could lead to some really, really massive changes in our society. But how about you go ahead and just kind of give us an update on what you're involved with and what you're seeing both with the Thai family and what's happening in Switzerland?

Todd Callender: 04:21

Sure. Big thing. Yeah, That's exactly right. The ramifications of this are are almost beyond comprehension. It's take a while to to absorb exactly what this means, starting with the Swiss prosecution.

Todd Callender: 04:36

You know, it's, it's one thing to make a complaint in Switzerland, criminal complaint, maybe some corruption or something like that. This complaint investigation and prosecution is of the president of the nation, and the minister of health. And actually, understand the minister of health and president are one and the same right now. So who knows what that will actually end up being. But this is a national attorney general to put one of our, you know, our AG going after somebody.

Todd Callender: 05:03

Apparently, are two sealed cases as well that go with it. So we're not going to know about those until they come out the public with it. But what really strikes me as being significant. In our last conversation, we talked about how how is it even possible you and I are having this conversation? What changed that the the great genocide has failed enough that we've survived this long?

Todd Callender: 05:26

Similarly, in this case, so people are generally unaware of something called the OECD, the Organization for Economic Cooperative Development. It is the one world government, it already exists everywhere outside The United States. They have what they call competent authorities, whereby nations, prime ministers, or presidents are actually overseen, kind of like the Queen did with Governors General. They're overseen by these OECD delegates who pick who's in charge of the government depending on what's happening. So under COVID, the various ministers of health would have been the competent authority as overseen by the OECD.

Todd Callender: 06:04

The same applies to international law and criminal law. So what this means, Switzerland being a member country to the OECD is that they've given the finger to the one world government, the AG by simply accepting this case and prosecute the first one in the world that I'm aware of, in the last three years on this subject matter, is now saying, we're going to prosecute not just, you know, crimes associated with COVID, but the politicals who pulled the trigger. The the enormity of this is just mind blowing because it ripples to so many other countries at the same time, which probably will include the Thai royal family. It's a constitutional monarchy. And so the powers of these sovereigns, the fact that a sovereign is standing up, not a one world government, a sovereign itself is now going to get some recompense on this.

Todd Callender: 07:00

A reckoning is coming, and just as you indicated, this is a big deal. This is about, you know, humanity surviving the genocide in every way.

Seth Holehouse: 07:10

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Seth Holehouse: 07:49

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Seth Holehouse: 08:18

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Seth Holehouse: 08:40

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Seth Holehouse: 09:03

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Seth Holehouse: 09:22

So to learn more about this, open up a new tab right now and go to goldwithseth.com or you can call [phone] to speak to someone right now. Again, that's [phone] or goldwithseth.com. The phone number and the link are also in the show description. To frame what's happening in Swiss Switzerland, basically, if I understand correctly, It's basically like, imagine this is America and it's it's it's like our that our attorney general of The United States, it'd be equivalent to that attorney general going after the sitting president with a case, saying, now, in this way, if I understand correctly that this case that he's, that he took on against the president and I think the minister of health, as you mentioned, is, is it how basically how they handled COVID and that the criminality of, of, you know, mandates or, you know, because you mentioned before that it was really, it's the, how the political class handled it, right? So you have, there's different levels of crime.

Seth Holehouse: 10:30

You could say, okay, well, Pfizer's guilty because of X and they bypass this. And you have the regulatory agencies like the CDC, etcetera. You can say, okay, they're guilty of X because of this. But then we have like, none of that would have mattered if they didn't have all of these political minions to pass the laws, to, you know, implement the mandates, to have people arrested, to, you know, collude with, you know, big tech to censor people. Like, so the politicians, they were really the foot soldiers, in many ways in helping carry out this, you know, this was I mean, really, it's a depopulation I mean, it's really what it is.

Seth Holehouse: 11:07

It's a genocide. Is it basically that was kind of like the AGs going after the sitting president. Like that's this isn't just some small case. That's that's really significant.

Todd Callender: 11:20

So, you know, the question was asked of Pascal yesterday, funny enough. The the charges, I understood it, in The US, the equivalent would be something called abuse of process. It's abuse of government powers is really what he's saying, because it encompasses so many of those very same processes that you talk about, his use of their position to effectuate this genocide, all based upon, you know, obvious evidence where you've got the Pfizer representative saying, Yeah, we didn't do any testing, we rolled it out, and the Swiss authorities, you know, being aware of this and convincing people to take the shots, you know, representing and warranting to people these are safe and effective when in fact they weren't. And what notice did they have? And Pascal's point was that in October of twenty twenty one, the FDA actually sent a notice to the Swiss government saying that vaccinated people don't enjoy any more immunity than not or the transmissibility, I'm sorry, that they could still transmit it just as though the unvaxxed, so there was no benefit effectively in taking the shots.

Todd Callender: 12:28

So that is abuse. It's coercion, it's force. There's probably 12 different ways to describe this. Universally, it's against the law.

Seth Holehouse: 12:39

And so if this, you know, gets prosecuted and say, I mean, would there be a guilty verdict? And could we see

Todd Callender: 12:48

Yeah, this is criminal.

Seth Holehouse: 12:49

We could see the President of Switzerland be arrested over these over criminal charges. Is that, I mean, that's Yeah,

Todd Callender: 12:57

that's right.

Seth Holehouse: 12:58

Gosh, that's significant. Now, what's happening? I've been following the situation with the Thai royal family. But for the audience that hasn't been, can you just kind of walk us through what happened with the, I think it's the princess, right? One of the Thai princesses?

Seth Holehouse: 13:15

Yes. And how that's led to where things are at right now over there?

Todd Callender: 13:20

Okay. Well, I know less about that, but I do have some details in so much that the princess, you've got that right, the royal family, got her third shot and apparently fell into a coma fairly quickly thereafter. The attending physicians, I think, were trying to explain to the family that it was some bacterial and I know that Doctor. Bakhdi, who's a Thai physician, I think he's normally a resident in Germany, was called to consult and explain to the royal family and their advisors that no, this was a side effect of the shots. And I think he went into great detail to explain to them that this is not anecdotal, that this is happening all over the world.

Todd Callender: 14:04

And he's very clearly established his bona fides to make such a statement. What's interesting about that is that I've had it in my mind that once this genocide started, that this was really a global effort, and that every government on this planet has actually participated and collaborated in this crime. But I have to take a step back and wonder, you know, in light of that, that the family, the royal family, it's a constitutional monarchy. If they didn't know about this, then that tells us not everybody and every government knew about this. However, I can tell you that over the course of the time that these laws were put in force in The United States, other countries did the same.

Todd Callender: 14:46

I live outside The United States. My job is analyzing other people's laws, other nation's laws, and they all were lockstep, in the words of the Rockefellers, in terms of their implementation, and it would take forty or fifty years to get all these laws in place in a lot of these countries, just as it did in The United States. So it strikes me that there's a lot of uncovering that must be done to find out who, you know, what parties in these governments, rather than the governments themselves, were responsible people for collaborating, for colluding in this crime. And I'm just sorry for the family that this is what it took for them to understand this.

Seth Holehouse: 15:24

And could there, I've heard discussion of military tribunals, right? And so, with, so did the, did the, okay, so Pfizer as an example, correct me if I'm wrong, they have contracts that give them basically, they, they're not, they have indemnification, is that the right kind of legal term? Meaning that they can't be prosecuted or sued because I think a lot of that went back to Operation Warp Speed, right? That went back to some things that happened where we moved into this emergency, you know, act or that particular time period, which lifted all of these limits basically. And so it really just gave them carte blanche the ability to put whatever they wanted to into those shots and have zero responsibility because they've got contracts, right, with each government saying, okay, we're gonna provide your government with, you know, say 40,000,000, you know, vaccines and but we're not responsible.

Seth Holehouse: 16:27

So did the Thai family, did they cancel that contract? Did they remove that protection clause? And will they do you think they'll be going after, like, Pfizer as an example?

Todd Callender: 16:40

Yeah. So that's a there's a lot to unpack in that one. Let me start by saying this. Yes, a national emergency was declared by president Trump in March of twenty twenty, followed almost immediately by the declaration of a public health emergency by the secretary of health and human services. When that act is declared invoked, it's, five zero fifty USC sixteen oh one is the citation, have a look at it, what you will find is that when, it's invoked and we're in a national emergency, most all of your constitutional rights are suspended, And that's reflected by example of our January 6 protesters that are still sitting in jail without so much of a bond hearing.

Todd Callender: 17:20

Some of them got a trial, two and a half years later, solitary confinement, you know, everything you can imagine that is being is being treated as unconstitutional is happening to those poor people. The public health emergency invocation is actually where the responsibility for the response then changes from Health and Human Services, frankly, to the Department of Defense under the watchful eye of the World Health Organization, who had previously declared something called the Public Health Emergency of International Concern. That's where all member nations then have to arrive at treating this emergency in the same way. So it's truly international, it's governed by the 2,005 international health regulations, which are being amended right now to remove any protection of any human rights. So when those things happen, the constitutional rights are suspended, they can do whatever they want to do, quarantining, they can provide emergency illegal treatments, what they call emergency use authorization, with drugs that didn't even go through clinical trials.

Todd Callender: 18:27

All of that happened based on a fraud. Was there ever COVID or was it just a flu that they called COVID? So that actually has to be attacked by itself. And the reason why I'm saying all of that is that you're right. There is indemnifications, immunities, in fact, under the cure, the cares, and the prep act for COVID countermeasures, basically meaning anything that had to do with responding to this COVID threat is now fine.

Todd Callender: 18:56

You can do it, you can kill people if you want to, such as they've done in the hospitals. And not only will you not get in trouble for it, you'll actually get paid for it. So this was an attack in every sense of the word, but it was predicated upon a fraud. And that goes back to this contract that you discussed. Yes, every nation ended up agreeing with Pfizer and the other manufacturers that they will gladly take in free these shots in return, they're going to indemnify the manufacturers against all claims whatsoever.

Todd Callender: 19:25

However, when contracts are based on fraud and sovereigns have the ability to enjoy sovereign immunity, you've got a whole new ballgame here. And I think that Thailand with near impunity will have the ability to exit these contracts without the collateralized provisions coming into effect. The contracts, I understand them, having seen some from Brazil and other places, actually pledged national assets to the name of Pfizer. If there's a claim against Pfizer, you country will give up your national assets to Pfizer as an indemnification against those claims. So those are void as a matter of law when you have a sovereign that entered into a contract based on fraud.

Todd Callender: 20:08

So I think that this is a brand new game.

Seth Holehouse: 20:11

I just want to clarify that point really quickly. So, okay, so national asset, let's just say that you're a country in South America and you know, that country you own, say, you know, 10,000 acres of the Amazon Rainforest, right? Hypothetically, right? Or a military. Or a military base or some navy ships.

Seth Holehouse: 20:31

So basically

Todd Callender: 20:32

That's right.

Seth Holehouse: 20:33

These contracts are saying that for Pfizer basically saying, okay, well, we're gonna give you all of these shots, but not only can we do we have immunity, like you can't sue us, but if say something in your country happens where your country does sue us, you've pledged these assets. So if we get sued for XML. We're actually going to then take the collateral, which is military ships like that. That just sounds like a mob deal. Like, it sounds like something that's like, if you don't if you don't pay my money,

Todd Callender: 21:07

I'm going

Seth Holehouse: 21:07

to burn your restaurant down and kill your dog.

Todd Callender: 21:10

That's what it seems That's pretty much it. There's a word for it. They call it racketeering. That's right. And it's actually a little bit broader than you imagine because it's not whether the country sues Pfizer, it's whether any citizens in that country sue Pfizer for damages.

Todd Callender: 21:27

Which means that governments

Seth Holehouse: 21:28

are then going to stop their own citizens from suing Pfizer.

Todd Callender: 21:31

That's right. That's right. I said military on purpose because Brazil had a fit about that and said, No, we're not going to give you the military assets, but yeah, here's some land over here, here's our treasury, and things of that nature. And it all depended, you know, on who was in office at that particular time and how much strong arming took place. And, you know, I'm not party to all of those things, but I've certainly seen enough in the contracts to understand this is racketeering.

Seth Holehouse: 21:58

And so the situation with Thailand is that you think that they've got the grounds to exit that contract and not be held responsible because it's what's it's on, it's based upon fraud. It's almost like if I buy a house and there's a there's a contract and it's supposed to be like this and say it's a airtight contract. If I find out the person who's sold the house didn't actually own it, or, you know, there was something fraudulent that nullifies everything. So you think that they're through basically saying that there's fraud baked into this, that nullifies that. And so will they, do you think that then the Thai government will actually go after Pfizer directly?

Todd Callender: 22:38

Yeah. So this is another part of it. In relation to the indemnities, the civil immunities, the answer is yes, fraud would vitiate contracts themselves. However, what happened is a war crime. This was an act of war that happened.

Todd Callender: 22:56

Why? Because it was the US Department of Defense that contracted Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson and asked Roseneka to make these shots. The perpetrator of this crime is our US Department of Defense. So really what you're talking about is these manufacturers are agents of The United States Of America, and US Of America, that was an act of war, what it is that happened and what it was we did, and not just for Thailand, but but the globe, frankly, because the same thing happened, you know, a 94 times more or less. So this is a different kettle of fish in that regard, and you look at the last time this happened, this has actually happened a couple of times, believe it or not.

Todd Callender: 23:36

If you look at Nuremberg Nineteen Forty Six, this is where the international criminal law comes from. It comes from the Nuremberg trials. However, people need to understand, not only did we have Nuremberg where, you know, a multilateral prosecution, it was Canada, US, UK, and I think a couple of other, Australia perhaps, nations banded together as the victors in the war to try these Germans, you know, officers, doctors, media, politicians for crimes against humanity. That's where that crime comes from. At the same time, there were the exact same kinds of trials happening in Kyiv.

Todd Callender: 24:14

When World War II ended, half of Europe went to the Soviet Union, the other half came to the Allies. So what's interesting and important about that is the same sets of laws came out of those, the same international criminal laws came out of it and gave rise to the Hague Conventions. So in those conventions, all of the parties, the countries that signed those agreements agreed to something called universal jurisdiction. And that means when there is a violation, an act of war, where the civilian population was targeted primarily. Those are crimes against humanity, and any nation in the world has the ability of the jurisdictional basis to hold those parties responsible in their country and effectuate something called extraterritorial jurisdiction, including trials and abstentions.

Todd Callender: 25:01

So that means if, let's say, General Milley, for example, is a defendant, and the Thai government can't actually get a hold of General Milley, you know, in personum, in his own right, they can try him while he's not in the country. And believe it or not, the way that the international law exists today is they could theoretically convict him, and then seek his extradition, not just, you know, under a mutual legal assistance treaty, but under the sentencing, that they would reserve onto themselves the right to grab this guy and effectuate their sentence. And there was a couple of cases that happened back in Nuremberg and Kyiv that support that conclusion. So we're going see Bangkok One Point Zero or Nuremberg Kyiv Two Point Zero. I have little doubt because this is criminal, and it will come in form of a military tribunal, undoubtedly, and it takes one general officer to open a military tribunal.

Todd Callender: 25:57

Any country can do it. And that's what's actually happening in Donbas right now. Russia has already started military tribunals for crimes against humanity.

Seth Holehouse: 26:06

Crazy. So this, it's interesting because actually, remember it was an article I was reading recently, I think that Andrew Huff had shared, Doctor. Andrew Huff, about and what it was talking about was was like who's really at the heart of the vaccine development, and how everyone wants to point the finger at, you know, J and J and Pfizer, etc. But this article laid out basically saying that, you know, actually, they're almost like the subcontractors, right? Not almost.

Seth Holehouse: 26:34

Yeah, you're right. The subcontractors.

Todd Callender: 26:37

Wow. So I mean, we found this in our case, right? I sued the US Department of Defense, Health and Human Services and the FDA. These are the perpetrators of crime. Those are defendants in my lawsuit now.

Todd Callender: 26:50

Unfortunately, it's a civil suit, but it's the same defendants. And no wonder why they're fighting like hell to try and get our case dismissed. But we've put a lot of this into evidence already, despite all the challenges that we've had. But the defendants that we sued are the very ones that should be under indictment criminally.

Seth Holehouse: 27:09

And so does it also would you know, say like Albert Borela, for instance, would it would it also apply to the executives and people at Pfizer itself? I mean,

Todd Callender: 27:19

could Yes.

Seth Holehouse: 27:21

I mean, and since this is there's there's international precedent for this, I mean, let's just say that Albert Bourlo had residence in The United States or say he was in Germany or whatever, that if the Thai military in the Thai military tribunals found him guilty of crimes against humanity for knowingly pushing this, you know, hiding data, etcetera, that they could actually seek his extradition back to Thailand and then they could, could even execute him, they could imprison him, because then he'd be under their suit. Wow. Okay.

Todd Callender: 27:53

And there's something really important about that. Part of the international criminal law that arose from Nuremberg is also the prohibition on countries that refuse capital punishment. So, other words, irrespective of a country's laws that says you can only put people in prison for life, capital offenses still prevail. So to your question, could Thailand, for example, extradite him from wherever it is? And the answer is absolutely.

Todd Callender: 28:24

There are things called mutual legal assistance treaties, and lots of countries have, in fact, pretty much all countries have them. They need only find that defendant, that convicted person in a treaty partner's country, and they are obligated, as a matter of fact, to extradite them, subject to what I just said. Some countries refuse to extradite if there's a capital offense involved, but I think in this case, you know, they have effectively killed 2,200,000,000 or more people. I know not all those people are dead yet, but they will be. So the answer is crimes against humanity are so grave that I don't think any country is going to protect these people.

Todd Callender: 29:01

And depending on the amount of culpability, the intent, the knowledge, what we call mens rea, yes, officers and directors in those companies will be equally culpable and held responsible.

Seth Holehouse: 29:13

And now, you know, we've seen over the past couple of years, especially whether it was things like the, you know, the Maricopa audit or any of these different initiatives that you know, we were looking at, you know, just hanging on the edge of your seat saying I want justice, right? We're now seeing, you know, really COVID I think woke a lot of people up and some people before then, but they're now realizing just how corrupt this criminal class is. And whenever you we think that there's gonna be justice, it's like, okay, yeah, there's a Soros AG done, you know, case is thrown out or look, you know, Carrie Lake's cases or any number of things. But this to me, and I want to see your opinion on this, this seems like it's a whole other ballgame because this isn't relying on some state jurisdiction or even a compromised, you know, Supreme Court of the United States throwing a case out. This is something where like the the royal family of Thailand, their daughter is literally in a coma because of this.

Seth Holehouse: 30:12

And they're like, you know, nothing will stop the wrath of a parent that sees their child murdered or maimed like this. And so, and it makes sense. Yeah, they've got, they've got the military under their control. And you made a really good point earlier, you know, kind of sharing that realization that, well, maybe not every government and not every powerful person in the world that even may have recommended this. They may they there's a good chance as this actually shows that they weren't all in on it.

Seth Holehouse: 30:45

And that some of them could have just they were just duped. And so do you think that the the question was kind of leading to with this is, do you think that this will move forward? I mean, you actually see this having a seismic impact?

Todd Callender: 31:02

It has to. It's really an eitheror. If it does not, then we shall all continue to be victims of the genocide. Just because they didn't succeed on the first time doesn't mean they won't succeed on the next time as Bill Gates said, you know, they'll pay attention next time. So we already know that's coming.

Todd Callender: 31:19

We have whistleblowers inside the US government that have already told us that the next attack is coming, it'll be another biowarfare attack. So undoubtedly, that's the case. In fact, I think it's just warned the Australians that there's another one coming. So if we don't do this, as humanity, if if we don't link arms across borders and languages and cultures, and get rid of these perpetrators, which are in every government, they just have to be identified and extracted. If we don't do that, we are all doomed.

Todd Callender: 31:47

This is an extinction level event, and it was designed to be so. Right? These these bioweapon shots were designed to be contagious, and we now know that that's in fact happened. The synthetic spike proteins that the poor vaxxed people are putting out are in fact infecting other people, and negatively impacting everybody's health. So there must be reconciliation here, that means dragging these people out, trying them, and I think frankly, them.

Todd Callender: 32:14

We must rid the earth of them.

Seth Holehouse: 32:17

And so, I mean, you feel like this is a strong step towards that. Mean, is this you think

Todd Callender: 32:24

this is

Seth Holehouse: 32:24

the most significant, kind of progress or single event that's happened since the whole COVID, pandemic unfolded?

Todd Callender: 32:31

Yeah. I I do. So, the the criminal prosecution in Switzerland is really important because the AG is doing something about it in accordance with Swiss law. That doesn't mean that Switzerland is going to take on the US Department of Defense. However, in the case of the the Thai, the royalty is the government.

Todd Callender: 32:51

The military will respond to the king, so that's a different kettle of fish. The answer is yeah. I think when they finish what it is they're doing, evidence was presented, I think the world will be awestruck by exactly how disgusting and how long this was all planned, when people realize that, you know, your government isn't here to help you, they're here to kill you. That's quite a feat, that's a really deep understanding, and I don't think humanity is going to, is going to allow that to happen. Certainly not with somebody, the king, you know, having decision making power by himself.

Todd Callender: 33:27

I don't see this as going any other way.

Seth Holehouse: 33:30

Yeah. Well, you know, one of the perspectives I have about just life in general is that truth can never be destroyed. It can only be covered And they can only cover it up for so long. You can't, you can't change the truth. You can't alter it.

Seth Holehouse: 33:45

The truth, there's a singular truth. And the truth is that very evil people colluded with a plan to cause the loss of life to a large portion of the population. Like that's, that's the truth. In all the research I've done, really paints exactly to that. And so, and that's, that's something that I have to remind myself on because sometimes, you know, when we feel beat down, right, we feel like, oh gosh, it's like when's it gonna stop and then talk about the next pandemic, you see mandates and drag queen story hour, all this stuff that you see and you're like, oh, this is disgusting.

Seth Holehouse: 34:21

And how is this happening in this world? It's like we're living in Sodom and Gomorrah. I remind myself that, well, that's true, but also that we have truth on our sides. I believe that also means we have God on our sides. I think that God really goes hand in hand with truth.

Seth Holehouse: 34:35

Right? And so

Todd Callender: 34:36

That's right.

Seth Holehouse: 34:37

You know, I think that and I agree with you. It's like they can only suppress this so long. But let me ask you, how do you think, like, and this is maybe a bigger picture, this is why I love the kind of discussion I love getting into. Let's just say that the Thai government successfully prosecutes this and the military tribunals and there are, you know, the justice that so many people have been hoping for, some of it starts to get brought to light. How do you think this is going to change the state of our society?

Seth Holehouse: 35:14

Because we've got, you know, they put out billions of these vaccines. I don't know the exact number how many people around the earth have got the, I hate calling it a vaccine, you know, the the bioweapon shots in the billions. And so if if there if people then realize that, wow, at a military tribunal, the same company that I took my kid to get his booster from is now being prosecuted for crimes against humanity, I believe that this is this will come, right?

Todd Callender: 35:47

How It must.

Seth Holehouse: 35:48

And how do you think this is going to shift and change our society? Folks, got a quick message for you. Look, it should be no surprise to you by this point that our government, not all of them, but a lot of the evil people in our government and the multinational corporations and military are trying to get rid of us. And it sounds crazy, but look around folks, it's happening. And one of the key ways of trying to do that is by destroying our food supply.

Seth Holehouse: 36:16

Look back at the past year and a half to two years, look how many food processing plants have been destroyed, look how many distribution facilities have been destroyed, How many hundreds of thousands of chickens and livestock have been killed. Look at and look at how it's affecting the prices. Look at the price of eggs now. What, you know, a dozen eggs that used to be a dollar 50 is now $5.06, $78. And folks, this is just going to continue, and I believe it's going to get worse.

Seth Holehouse: 36:43

So now is the time to really take care of your family and the future of your family because you have to ask yourself if there is a crisis, if they influence some sort of vax ID so you can't buy food anymore, if there's a grid down event like we it's talking you're talking about the EMP weather balloon. Any of these scenarios, you have to ask how long could your family last? Do you have storable food? Because if you've only if you look at your cupboards and you've only got one or two weeks or maybe a month worth of food for your family, I would say it's not enough. My recommendation is to try to get at least three to six months, if not more of storable food.

Seth Holehouse: 37:20

And also what's really important is having seeds for growing and good quality heirloom seeds because you don't just want to eat through all your food store, that needs to be your backup. And so learning how to grow food, and to preserve food through canning or whatever other methods is absolutely critical. And a lot of you have been asking, look, you know, I'm a big guy into prepping. Seth, do you have any recommendations for storable food? And there's a lot of the big big name, you know, food bucket companies I looked into.

Seth Holehouse: 37:50

I've bought some of their products. I've tested them. And to be honest, I'm not that happy with them. They're really trying to make it as cheap as possible. They're trying to say, okay, let's just throw a lot of junk in there to make the price per calorie really cheap.

Seth Holehouse: 38:02

But actually, you need to have quality food. And so there's a company that I'm so excited to be working with, which is Heaven's Harvest. So I'm gonna bring them up. So this is heavensharvest.com. This is a small business.

Seth Holehouse: 38:14

I talked to the owners. They are a Christian patriot company, and they're working to provide you with extremely high quality emergency survival foods. These are foods that have upwards of a twenty five year shelf life. So you buy them now, you store them, God forbid, hopefully in the next twenty years, you don't have to use them. But if at any point, there's a situation where the food supply is collapsing or food just way too expensive and need to supplement that with other things.

Seth Holehouse: 38:43

Here you're gonna have your very high quality storeable food, but they also on here, you go to the heirloom seed section, they have your seed kits. So they've got a heirloom vegetable seed kit, which is the big one. They've got the Max seed kit. So you have all the seeds that you need that have great germination rates. And because they're heirloom non gmo, you can keep reusing these seeds year after year.

Seth Holehouse: 39:06

So folks, I highly recommend Heaven's Harvest. And also if you go today, you can save 15% off your entire order. Just use the promo code Seth, s e t h, that's me. So again, go to heavensharvest.com, use promo code Seth to save 15% on your order of storable food and heirloom seeds.

Todd Callender: 39:29

Well, let me let me start with this because it's easy to to say, okay, it was, you know, John Doe and the government that was responsible for this, but it's more than that in terms of complicity in this genocide. Don't forget in 1994, a 96 countries and territories, they all got together in Cairo, and they all decided to kill 7,000,000,000 people, that the earth was overpopulated, and they would implement plans to to depopulate the planet. That means a whole lot of people and every government had to agree to that in order to effectuate that. So the reconciliation is going to be a painful one. And I look at it this way: anybody that was in office for the last forty years as it relates to The United States is culpable, Because if they weren't fighting against it, then they were part of it.

Todd Callender: 40:19

You know, and you can say with the exception perhaps of president Trump who who took The US out of the WHO and did some other really remarkable things. Other than that, they are all complicit. So it's it's not gonna be an easy, an easy deal to do, but 7,000,000,000 people is certainly, bigger than the, you know, whatever hundred thousand or so that are controlling these governments. How will that affect people? It's going to reshape our society in every single way, maybe in a good way.

Todd Callender: 40:50

You know, back in the in the days when we were settling the the Wild West, you know, people were responsible for themselves. There were territories, there weren't, you know, states even. My state of Colorado is only a 50 years old or so. I don't think it's even that old. The point is that people got together, people found a way together, and they had self responsibility and self reliance.

Todd Callender: 41:13

And when people understand this, that their government wasn't there helping them, their government plotted their demise, Everybody's going to look at government differently. They're going to look back to how our government was formed in 1776, declaring independence from a brutal crown, and I think that's where we go back. Our governments have become monarchies in every respect. We no longer have human rights, we no longer have constitution rights. There's going be a taking back of all that led by self responsibility and self reliance, because that's the only way we survive this.

Seth Holehouse: 41:47

And it's interesting because I'm not sure if you're familiar with Martin Armstrong or any of his work, know, the financial forecaster. So I interviewed him, you the past couple months or so. And, you know, one of the things that he said in the interview, he said that, you know, coming from his calculations and his programs, which, you know, these are the programs that CIA, like, put him in jail for because they couldn't, he wouldn't give them to him because he was literally able to look at cycles and financial things and predict the rise and fall of countries, the start dates of wars, etc. But one thing he told me is he said that, you know, everything in his calculations pointed to that by 02/1932, every government in the world will have changed. So that by 02/1932, every government will have collapsed and will be replaced with something.

Seth Holehouse: 42:36

And that just goes hand in hand because, again, like, as we as you know, talking about, you know, at the beginning before we started recording, this is just the tip of the iceberg. Right? There's a lot of people that they didn't know any of this was going on there, especially in America, you know, we've got a beautiful life here, we've got our sports and everything. So a lot of folks was going along with that and then the whole world gets turned upside down and COVID hits. And they, and their government became tyrannical overnight, shutting down their favorite restaurants, you know, all the stuff that we saw.

Seth Holehouse: 43:10

But then if you look at the bigger picture of this, a lot of people then you step, you take that and then you tie that into the jab, and that, you know, the shot, the rollout of that. The people that are now waking up to that, but that is just the beginning because it's like, okay, what about the heartburns that they're on? What about the food that the FDA is approving that is, you know, they're working hand in hand with Monsanto to make sure that they're getting their chemicals into us through their modern, you know, giant monocrop agriculture. You know, this goes so deep and it's almost like that, you know, if we're trying to say our country is a body that we're trying to cure, it's like the vaccine issue. It's like that's cancer, but that's not maybe that's only cancer in the liver.

Seth Holehouse: 43:58

It's like, okay, you look at that and you realize the liver has cancer. It's like, oh, this is really bad. But then you realize that that same cancer is in every other organ and it's in the very bones. And so, like, what it's like, how what do you do? How do you move forward?

Seth Holehouse: 44:12

Because Yeah. I think, and I couldn't agree more with you actually, that I think that what we're experiencing is a collapse of all of these systems that are evil and corrupt. And I think that we're going go back to a much more traditional way of living that will emerge from this.

Todd Callender: 44:31

Yeah. I mean, if we weren't subject to all the propaganda of hate, black versus white, Spanish speakers versus non. You know, in every aspect of our lives, there's this division used to control us, and I don't think that's how humans are born. I think we're born to collaborate, we're friendly, we seek relationships, we seek touching other people. And it's only by this propaganda and mental torture, frankly, that we're trained to be this way.

Todd Callender: 45:01

So I agree with you that this is going to be a different world entirely. And to your point, you know, once we started figuring out what was happening in the shots in the military, we discovered the hydrogel components. And then more recently, we've been finding the same hydrogel components. The hydrogel is really what gives people AIDS, vaccine induced AIDS amongst other things also part of the tracking program. In the hardware installation as Moderna called it, we found it now in the flu shots, we found it in insulin.

Todd Callender: 45:34

We know that there are better than 3,300 commercial food products that have the same lipid nanoparticles with the same toxic payloads. We now know that Maurice Hillman, is Merck's vaccinologist, the chief guy was laughing about giving Russians cancer with his his vaccines, in pathogens, SV 40 in that case, we found something called death approach, death associated protein six gene sixteen sixteen, otherwise known as kinase. And we found that our Department of Energy actually mutated that into tens of thousands of other diseases that they've been putting in medicine, they've been putting in our food. It's all coming out because we've already discovered it, it's already been shared, and people are now, you know, coming to know this. The point is, we're not going to trust the systems fold, as you had decided or described, I should say.

Todd Callender: 46:22

We're going to have to get back to where humanity began, and frankly, Seth, that's the Bible. Those are God's laws. Those are the commandments, You know, and the Abrahamic laws, the Abrahamic religions all share the same thing. And I think all religions do, one way or another, Hindus and otherwise, we all share the basics, and that's where we have to get back to. Or if we don't, you know, we simply won't exist.

Todd Callender: 46:46

This is an extinction level event.

Seth Holehouse: 46:48

And how do you frame this from that that spiritual discussion, you know, because I, you know, before the show, we're talking about, you know, really how this is kind of like, okay, how many souls go to Lucifer versus God? I mean, how do you see that? Like, how do you frame that? Because I'd love to hear your thoughts and how you merge. Obviously, you have this incredible understanding of just the law and international treaties and everything that's happening in this world.

Seth Holehouse: 47:17

But, you know, through my conversation with you, you also have a depth of spiritual wisdom in how you frame this. And so how do you look at it from that perspective?

Todd Callender: 47:27

I wish I could tell you other than the fact I get what are called God whispers, you know, in my ear, and it makes me think, and I am haunted by Matthew thirteen thirty eight, the wheat and the tares. This is the defining moment where the good are separated from the bad, and those will go on to inherit the earth. And it's all biblical, but I think it's all reflected in, you know, nearly, I should say nearly every holy text, one way or another. It just goes back to, you know, a person's soul. I just really believe that.

Todd Callender: 48:01

I think the good souls will persist.

Seth Holehouse: 48:05

And I also, what I'm seeing as well in society is that, like, you know, we recently had the Grammys. I'm not sure if you saw the video going around for the Grammys where it was literally just it was just satanism on the stage. I mean, was Yep. It was pure evil represented. Yes.

Seth Holehouse: 48:23

And any previous culture, if they looked forward and they saw that that's where America was, they would say, yeah, when's a great flood coming? Because it'll be soon. That's like that's, you know, that's where a civilization and so, and sometimes, I mean, me, like it feels like you look around and the world has gotten so evil. But I actually think that this evil has been here really since the dawn of time. Forever.

Seth Holehouse: 48:49

Just that now we're seeing it because it was hidden. And I think that they derive a lot of their power from being hidden. And so like when you see it, when you shine light in the darkness, that in and of itself weakens them. And so but what's interesting is that I also find that as they get more evil, right, look at the drag queen story hour, look at the, you know, the one gay couple that were that were prostituting out their two autistic sons. I mean, at the amount of evil that's coming out.

Seth Holehouse: 49:17

I think that you're also seeing the inverse of that with good coming out. And that's what gives me hope is that I'm seeing so many people that I know that used to be kind of on the fence, right? A lot of conservatives are really on the fence morally. They said, well, it's okay, you know, I'm not gonna dislike you for it. It's okay with me.

Seth Holehouse: 49:38

I'm seeing so many people now, they're saying, no, I'm choosing the good side. Like there's no longer again, if you're separating the wheat from the chaff, there's no in between. You can't be both. And I think that we're entering into a period of time where people really have to make almost a soul level decision. It's like, are you going to be on the side of God and virtue and faith and humanity and family?

Seth Holehouse: 50:04

Or are you going to be on the side of indulgence and sin and corruption and global communism and

Todd Callender: 50:10

Lucifer.

Seth Holehouse: 50:11

Lucifer. Yep. And there's no more there's no more middle ground.

Todd Callender: 50:16

There there isn't. And when I said Lucifer, I actually really specific way. Most people probably don't know that the founding document of the United Nations is the Lucifer Trust. They later changed the name, but everything we're coming to find, the people in power, their God is Lucifer. So it really is just what you described.

Todd Callender: 50:39

This is good versus evil. And to see the award ceremony, you know, it was all dedicated to Satan. Mean, how could we not wake up? It's so much in our face these days. I don't know if you saw our friend Sean figured out that Pfizer spelled backward in Hebrew means the bringer of the plague.

Todd Callender: 50:58

I was just blown away by that because it's all around us, right? We're just figuring it out for the first time.

Seth Holehouse: 51:05

Yeah, that was incredible actually when he, is it the anandrome? I forget the exact Yeah. Yes. Basically, word spelled backwards and he looked it up and it was that Pfizer spelled backwards was the Hebrew word for basically the bringer of death, the bringer of the plague. I mean, absolutely.

Seth Holehouse: 51:22

Like, I heard that I got chills. I was like, oh my goodness, that's insane.

Todd Callender: 51:26

You when you look at what he said, you know, the transvestite story I would talk about, you know, the times of Babel. You know, there's nothing new under the sun. We're living out again, as you said, when is the flood going to come? And I think this time might be a little bit different. We're given this opportunity to clean this up ourselves, we must seize on that opportunity, you know, and then we'll create a future for humanity, a different one.

Todd Callender: 51:51

And it's really interesting that Mr. Armstrong arrived at that conclusion. Throughout all of this, I've come to find that the number 2,030 isn't just a catchy phrase for the agenda. They actually really have to get this done by 02/1930. It's in their playbook.

Todd Callender: 52:06

And if they don't, I'm not entirely sure what what becomes of them. All I know is that's a deadline. And now they seem to be desperate. Think Mr. Trump cost him four or five years and the frustration alone has put everything out of step to the point where it's obvious, right?

Todd Callender: 52:23

We're all now seeing it that maybe provide us the chance to survive this, but 02/1930 is their deadline, and all we have to do is survive till then. All right.

Seth Holehouse: 52:32

That's a good point. Let's just survive until then and resist their central bank digital and their social credit systems you know, all of that stuff. And so, and I really agree with you as well that, you know, it's easy to look at their agenda, especially as you come to learn because again, two or three years ago, a lot of people had no idea who Klaus Schwab was. Lot people, you know, they thought that one world government or new war order was some, you know, something from a TV show. But now we're really seeing this stuff, it's, you know, it's very real.

Seth Holehouse: 53:08

And it can be frightening because you look at this agenda 02/1930 as an example, you look at all the things that have to be in place and what that means. And it's and then you realize how much control they already have over the financial institutions, the giant multinational corporations, the armies, the governments, etc. And it's a little bit frightening, but then it's to me, it's helpful to kind of frame in the way you put it, that it's not that they're taking this beautiful normal life that we had, and they're saying, okay, we're gonna have you all enslaved by 02/1930. It's like they've been quietly in control for a long time and they, it's like they know something is happening by 2,030 that's outside of their control. So they're gonna, they're trying their best to scramble to put all of their control mechanisms in place before that event comes.

Seth Holehouse: 53:56

But it's like they it's almost as if like they know that God's actually in control. It's not their timeline. As much as they mock God, it's not their timeline.

Todd Callender: 54:06

You know, I'm glad you said that too, because one of the things that we discovered is that their mission is literally to genetically modify every plant and animal species on this planet to spite God. You know, there's actually a Synbio division of our Health and Human Services dedicated to genetic modification of every plant and animal species on the planet. And I it strikes me that that's part of this, Right? They've got till 02/1930 to accomplish that goal because when they when they say spite God, that's about spiting God's creations, and that includes you and me. Right?

Todd Callender: 54:42

We are God's children, we are His creations, as are everything else on this planet. And if they change everything, then I think maybe that's where they think that they could put off whatever this grand reckoning is. But I don't think they're gonna I don't think they're gonna do it. Seth, I think we wouldn't be talking, you know, the Swiss AG wouldn't be picking up this case. There are so many things going wrong with their plan.

Todd Callender: 55:05

They're just out of step and it's now becoming obvious in every way. And that's the that's our power, what you said the truth. It's truth is like water, no container can hold it.

Seth Holehouse: 55:13

Yeah. And so, and this actually leads to the question I had is, I think you kind of are framing already, but do you have hope for the future of humanity? Because you, of all of a lot of people I know, you have a very good understanding of the true nature of the evil that is on this earth and the power they have. But can you still find hope for where we're going?

Todd Callender: 55:37

Yeah. Yeah. I really do. We wouldn't be here. You know, it's amazing going through this whole process.

Todd Callender: 55:45

I felt really alone in the early days. There were some people we kind of joined in and huddled and we drove on with a plan. And then you find some other people also are doing the exact same thing pretty soon. Is narrow path, you know, turns into a highway. And I didn't know there were so many wonderful good souls of this planet to be direct with you.

Todd Callender: 56:05

And it's been this wonderful, it's a joyous experience meeting all these really great people and helping other people come along. Yeah, I think the momentum is going the right way, and in a wonderful way, in a really wonderful way. And even if we fail, even if we fail as a species, wasn't it great that we finally found each other, we finally found our souls, and you know, and we found God?

Seth Holehouse: 56:29

And that's a good point because that's something I have to, you know, that's how I try to look at things. It's like, well, look, even if I fail, even if you know, I wake up, you know, one day and there's a UN Blue Helmet soldier shoving a vaccine into my arm, it's going to kill me in three days. If that's the case, it's like, well, like, that's just my earthly body dying. And I hope that I've lived a life and then I've taken steps and I've chose to fight the good fight and to stand up for virtue and for It's like, I hope that I'll be walking through those pearly gates and I'll look back and just say it was all worth it. It was all worth it.

Todd Callender: 57:10

Great ride. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're exactly right about that. Yeah.

Todd Callender: 57:17

You know, there's still we're all gonna die, Seth. Every one of us is gonna die. So really, the question is, you know, how do you want to do that? Are you are you gonna die standing, fighting, doing what's right? Are you gonna get on your knees and beg forgiveness?

Todd Callender: 57:30

Or are you gonna go join the other side? What does that look like? So, yeah. You know, I love the I love the way you frame that. Yeah.

Todd Callender: 57:36

It was a great ride. Let's do it again. Yeah.

Seth Holehouse: 57:39

Now there's something I want to kind of ask you about because, obviously, this is there's some positive momentum, and we feel like we've just come out of this this the the COVID pandemic. But I I feel like that part of my duty is to help people understand what's coming down the pipeline. You know, like I interviewed a guest recently, actually it was a couple days before the whole Chinese balloon thing. I interviewed an expert on grid down scenarios and what happens in an EMP attack. And it was a very kind of heavy episode to talk about the fact that, yeah, an EMP would probably wipe out seventy five percent of our population within the first year, like that's the severity, but I feel like we have to be, we can't stick our head in the sand about this stuff.

Seth Holehouse: 58:25

And so I also, I think that while there's a lot of positive momentum, I don't want the people that are watching and listening to be like, great, we're winning. And then the next pandemic hits like, where'd that come from? Right? So what are you, you know, through your sources you have, I know that there's there's some FEMA whistleblowers you're in touch with people in the government. What do you think is their next step?

Seth Holehouse: 58:46

Because I want the people that are watching and listening to to know what's coming next. That way we're not knocked off our feet when it arrives.

Todd Callender: 58:54

Yeah. Well, the easy answer to that is the is the five g network. It's a weapons platform, it's everywhere. And we already know that the 60 gigahertz signal, which is a five gs signal will actually absorb oxygen remotely, asphyxiate people remotely. So that's the that's the easy answer to that.

Todd Callender: 59:15

What's interesting is that Australia, A Few Years ago, people were very concerned about that, and they filed criminal complaints for assault because the EMF was in fact hurting them, and they can prove it, and that is and remains so. And they were able to get cities to take down some of the the towers that's happening in Peru right now. And now, even in The United States, suits are happening and criminal complaints are being filed. And if nothing else, if you file a criminal complaint to stop the assault or battery, depending on what your state's laws read, then if the government doesn't do something about it, then you've reserved onto yourself the right of self defense for what I call a property crime. If somebody were to take out one of these antennas, that's a property crime.

Todd Callender: 59:59

And so I think as people become conscious of this and understand that this is also not make believe that you are being injured right now, It's affecting your body and that every single malady that we witnessed on this planet is is reproducible by those very same frequencies. It's the flick of a switch. The question simply is who's in control of those frequencies? Who's got their fingers on the trigger? And my concern is that's the, you know, that's the next one.

Todd Callender: 01:00:26

And I just pray that there are good souls that understand this and aren't going to, you know, unleash effectively an atomic weapon on us, because it's already here.

Seth Holehouse: 01:00:34

Yeah. And it so and for people that are watching listening, if you, if that's a new concept to you, go watch the interview I did with Doctor. Robert Young, where he goes into really, really deep into his research into, you know, five gs, four gs, etc, and how it affects the human body, how it affects people that have the graphene oxide in them, etc. The MAC addresses that people, you know, the Internet of bodies, And so, and that's a it's a really good point because they could even use that to create the next pandemic. You know, they can create

Todd Callender: 01:01:08

That's right.

Seth Holehouse: 01:01:09

Even if you look at Wuhan, it's like, is it a coincidence that at that time they activated a massive five g network in Wuhan. Right?

Todd Callender: 01:01:16

That's right.

Seth Holehouse: 01:01:17

And so yeah. So that's

Todd Callender: 01:01:18

60 gigahertz signal.

Seth Holehouse: 01:01:20

Yeah. Yeah. And, actually, I think it was Robert Young who said in the interview that this the five g systems make the atom bomb obsolete.

Todd Callender: 01:01:29

He's right. He's absolutely right about that. So then, you know, what are we going to do about it? At some point, the people that are enforced in the law, the people in uniform are going to have to embrace this. Right?

Todd Callender: 01:01:42

It's a pain in the rear for them to be doing something about it. But it's their families too. And I think it's something similar to, you know, the monarchy in Thailand, it's one of their own that's now injured and presumably having trouble recovering. So what if that's your kid? You know, you're a police chief, you're a sheriff's deputy, does it matter?

Todd Callender: 01:02:04

You are getting injured, your kids are getting injured, it's provable, it's understandable. You know, what are you going to do about it? We've got form complaints, by the way, for this, and we're always building on them. Five Small Stones is one of our self help legal sites. And I encourage people to file them, and if for no other reason, file it with your local police so that you can educate them.

Todd Callender: 01:02:26

Right? Show them what this is about so maybe they can help sort this out. And I think that's really what it's about is humanity coming together and not putting up this anymore.

Seth Holehouse: 01:02:34

So, and I'm going pull your website up as well because it's a great resource. So it's 5smallstones.com. And so when people come to this, what can they do here?

Todd Callender: 01:02:49

Yeah, they can download, phone complaints and adapt them. If they send us a note, we'll hook them up with lawyers and doctors. There is a, an associated library at Vaxchoice, V A X X choice dot com. And, it's a repository of information, everything we could possibly want, including I think we downloaded 11,000 pages of evidence to support this. It came from the Children's Health Defense case that they that they brought.

Todd Callender: 01:03:16

So we've got a group of people willing to stand by, there's tutorial videos to show you how to do this. And it all started really about two, almost three years ago, when we drafted a form of criminal complaint, still available today, that you could download and file and help your local law enforcement understand what's really happening. All the evidence is there. All you have to do is is download it, adapt it to your circumstances and file it.

Seth Holehouse: 01:03:42

Incredible. Yes. I'm opening up the the page here. This is the the criminal complaint PDF that you've got people can access. So so it's five, number five, small stones Com and then vaxxchoice.com, v a x x choice Com.

Seth Holehouse: 01:04:00

So, Todd, do you have any any closing thoughts on the conversation for people?

Todd Callender: 01:04:06

Yeah, I'm optimistic. I really am. We survived this long and that now, sadly, people are negatively impacted to this, people in power, but I suspect they'll do the right thing because I think they know the seriousness and the gravity of this, and how it affects all of humanity, and there's a whole lot of sick and injured people. But you know, when you and I talk about these things, there's an opportunity for them to embrace us, and they can embrace God too. Right?

Todd Callender: 01:04:35

As I said, we're all going to die. It's just a function of how and when. So if you get right with God, then it doesn't really matter, does it?

Seth Holehouse: 01:04:43

Exactly. Exactly. Well, what good note to end on. And I hope that this has been a positive interview for folks to listen or to or watch because, you know, look, there's there's still there's a very, very significant battle still ahead of us. And I'm not I'm not trying to be too rosy lensed about that.

Seth Holehouse: 01:05:01

But I do see that there are cracks forming in the dam. When that when those cracks get big enough and those big chunks are coming out, we're gonna see just the floodgates open. And I think that when that really happens, all of these powerful people that have all the power and money right now, their days will be very limited when that happens.

Todd Callender: 01:05:25

That's right. Yeah. On that note, would love to counsel people that, you know, as they come to understand that they've been injured, their kids are, they're going be angry. And some may be tempted to take, you know, the law into their own hands and go and deal with this. And while I understand that, for purposes of our society, I think that's a bad thing.

Todd Callender: 01:05:46

I think that we have to use the systems that were built, we have to use justice in the traditional sense and give these people the trial, followed by a swift execution, if that's what the jury signs, but we've got to use notions of justice to deal with this, or otherwise, we'll just disintegrate into chaos. I think that's exactly what was planned by these one world government people. So be vocal, by all means, let's get together, we can figure it out, we can plan it, but let's not do vigilante justice.

Seth Holehouse: 01:06:15

That's a great point. Great point. Well, Todd, thank you so much for talking to My pleasure. It's been an incredible discussion. I look forward to the next time.

Todd Callender: 01:06:24

Yeah, me too. Seth, thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it. And I always enjoy listening to you and your guests. So appreciate you having me.

Seth Holehouse: 01:06:31

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Well, thank you, Todd. Take care.