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What's going on, everybody?
Welcome to Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
And Carolyn can't hear us.
Uh-oh.
Technical difficulties.
Ever since we got our microphone,
we have added technical
difficulties to Carolyn's setup.
We have no voice, no...
so yeah I said I had a mic
for now because I can't
hear anything it wasn't
okay yeah we had it we had
equipment to your
repertoire and it messes up
all of your system so um so
yeah so what's going on
everybody it's Sunday night
Sunday night CrossFit talk
man I haven't shaved in a week wow
yeah that's been my like mo
since the games it has been
like no shave for a week
and then shave it off and
then don't shave for two
weeks and then shave it off
and I don't know I can't
decide what I'm doing but
crazy but we're uh we got
fifteen minutes of rain
today for the first time in
like four weeks you do you
have rain like all week in your schedule
I haven't checked,
but there's a possibility tomorrow.
Yeah.
Yeah, our whole week looks pretty rainy.
But same thing.
We haven't had rain in a few weeks.
My backyard is a dust bowl.
How are you, Carolyn?
First week of school underway?
I'm on week three.
This is going to be week four.
Dang.
Where has time gone?
I know.
crazy it's been a busy week
though I've been basically
taking like teaching four
classes instead of three so
busy busy yeah yeah just as
I'm trying to like do all
this editing for the behind
the scenes and all that
stuff like work has picked
up um life has picked up um yeah
it's crazy and then they
throw two events in one
weekend on me uh to try to
keep up with all of that so
uh but that's what we're
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we are the original sunday
night crossfit talk um
But a lot has happened this weekend.
Before we get into some of that,
tomorrow at one p.m.
Eastern time, ten p. Ten a.m.
Pacific time,
we will be releasing episode
three of behind the scenes
of the twenty twenty four
Masters CrossFit Games.
And it is the rope climb
clean or sandbag clean
handstand walk event.
this one is going to be a
lot more Ellie Hiller forward.
Um,
she did a lot of the interviews for
this one.
Um,
so it's going to have a lot more of her
interviews coming off the
floor and less of mine in the,
in the warmup area.
Um, so, but this one's about minutes long.
So nice and easy,
easy to digest a quick run through.
It's just one event.
Um, and, uh,
Ortega killed the mashup of the event.
Again, it's really good.
It's a good one to do.
Rope climbs are fun to watch, uh,
sandbag cleans and then handstands, uh,
just made for a really cool, um, uh, uh,
I looked,
I looked and Lex was in the top five and,
uh, um,
But in first place was, oh, my guy.
CJ.
Yes, CJ Gerald.
CJ Gerald was in first going
into those last couple events.
Is there a prize for top
three or just top one?
I think they give a prize for one,
but I don't know about top three.
Lex has to be one of the
most consistent players, though,
like at the top.
She was as well.
I didn't even play this time.
I'm kind of bummed.
Yeah, there's a few that didn't fall.
I just kind of put it early
and then sometimes I forget.
Sometimes I would think about it.
I'm terrible at setting my lineup in time.
So I went in literally and
just put North America for everything.
And then if I had time to
get in and change it, I did.
But I wanted to at least
participate in the whole weekend.
So that's what I did.
And it cost me... I don't know.
I mean,
I might have changed one or two things.
But the prop bets were tough this time,
I thought.
I was not good at the seconds apart.
But yeah, he won at...
If you would have,
I think it would have helped had,
and these are things we can talk about.
We'll get into it.
Tier Waterpalooza,
SoCal with the Tier Cup this weekend.
They tried something new.
Let's talk from a Heat One
perspective as fantasy.
It would have been nice to
know the lineups ahead of time,
knowing they could change.
They could sub out.
But it would have been great.
And I think to grow any kind of sport,
the more you can attach it
to fantasy or sports betting of any kind,
the better it does.
And I think this is a way to
get people more involved.
And they should work
together to get at least
hypothetical lineups for the week.
I don't know that he knew
the lineups to post them.
Probably not.
I agree.
It would have helped a lot.
The more people you get playing the game,
the more people will watch
to see how they're doing in the game.
And so it's just, it's just,
it's a way to build it.
Because when,
and knowing that they could
like the last minute changes tonight,
knowing North America had a
chance to win.
So they changed their lineup
for the next to last event to,
to go all in.
I'm sorry.
It could be that way, but so anyway,
that's about the,
the fantasy aspect of it.
Did you guys get a chance to
watch much of the weekend?
I only watched.
So basically today was the
first day I got to watch
much of anything.
I caught a little bit of the
adaptive games on Friday, um, daytime.
And then today I just tried
to like catch up on the tier stream.
So I watched, uh,
Brian's recap of the run one.
Um,
like the monostructural one.
Yeah, I guess it was.
And then watched a little
bit of the adaptive today.
But yeah,
today was basically all the time I had.
Yeah, I walked like the Friday night.
I didn't watch it.
I watched actually as I woke
up around like three to four a.m.
And I just checked my phone
and then I had a notification.
I was like, oh, let me see who won.
Then I ended up like
starting to watch it in the
middle of the night.
Saturday, I stayed up to watch it.
It was just so late, though,
like it threw off my
morning routine a little
bit on the weekend because
I woke up a little bit
later than I would have
liked to to begin my training.
And then today, today I watched it.
It's just late.
Even for Lex, who is in California,
she's complaining and it
was late for her.
So I was the idiot that
stayed up every night to watch it.
It was tough, though.
I will tell you,
it was everything in my power.
Because I think Friday night
didn't end until after one, Eastern time.
And that's late for me these days.
And so I watched it.
I will say I was really
excited to watch some CrossFit.
Friday night left me a little bit
less than excited.
Um,
I thought the first couple of events
didn't bring a lot of heat.
They didn't bring a lot of excitement.
There was a couple of blowouts.
Um,
it was hard to kind of understand the
concept of it at the,
at first until they got to the lift,
which we all knew who was
going to win anyway,
but it was fun to see like aerial PR.
And it was fun to see Jeff
at least put up decent numbers.
Um, just gee blew them out of the water.
Cause we knew that was going
to happen anyway.
And I think like what's cool
about it live and the
lights and being at night
and under and you get that
like the techno feel of it all.
I don't think that comes across on TV.
I think on TV,
it just looked like you
could see people's breath.
It was cold.
You saw the wet floors.
You saw them chalking every
piece of equipment to hell
and back because it was really crazy.
And Friday night just left me like, blah.
But then I watched the event five or four,
whatever it was, on Saturday and
at like one o'clock, I think then I got,
I started getting pumped
like that picked up a lot.
Then Saturday night got even better.
And they were more excited.
There was more of like the
highlight events where it was one-on-one.
I think those were pretty exciting.
And then today was, was even better.
So yesterday when they chose
to do the three person team
and it ended with the run on the beach.
Yeah.
That was freaking gorgeous.
The one I watched.
Yeah.
Like that was to run up the
Pacific ocean and,
And I wish they would have
had a drone to kind of
follow it the whole way and
bring it back.
But other than that, like,
I have no complaints.
I thought that was really fun to watch.
And then they get into the
evening and it was really fun.
It was easier to stay up
Saturday night than it was Friday night.
And then today I thought
that the events were bang, bang,
bang until the last event
when everybody knew who was going to win.
Right.
But it was, it was, it was pretty fun.
Corey Leonard says to listen
to Brian Friend hyperventilating.
If people didn't watch it live,
Brian tried to run with the
last athlete out as far as he could.
Then he publicly said,
I better stop here so I can
keep up with the athletes
as they come back.
But he was breathing pretty
hard at that point.
He made it way further than I would.
I'll say that.
I was impressed with how...
I actually thought it would
be louder breathing.
I was like, oh,
this is going to get awkward.
And I thought he did great.
And he didn't sound like
heavy breathing to me.
I was impressed.
Yeah, same.
I was getting treatment at that point.
And I'm listening to it with
my athletic trainer.
And she's like,
is someone running and filming?
What is happening?
Because she can't see the video.
And I'm like, yes,
but he's actually doing an
actually pretty good job.
yeah yeah he he did great
actually I thought the
broadcast he lost he
started by giving a tour of
the of the venue which was
cool to see for us who
weren't there um and then
uh and then to cover the
event was great just he
lost some internet at times
I wish that wouldn't happen
and like I said if they had
a drone it would have been perfect
Yeah, the volume, was it Saturday night?
The volume had issues as well.
Yeah, the audio went out Saturday night.
But then the first event
today where they had to
move all of the equipment
from one end of the floor
to the other and then back,
like that had so much excitement to it.
When Adler took the worm by
himself and was the first guy to do it,
like my jaw hit the floor and then,
and then you could hear the
crowd go nuts.
And then you saw all of
North America do that.
They all brought worms back by themselves.
That was, I mean,
I got hyped for that and I
thought it was really a cool,
like old OG CrossFitty, you know,
just move objects.
Yeah.
Um, I thought that was a lot of fun.
I liked that one too.
Some of the events were too long.
The volume was very high for them.
If they thought they were
signing up for just a
little exhibition weekend,
I thought the volume was
pretty high for that type of a weekend,
of a fun tier cup weekend.
I would have done a couple
shorter workouts,
and it would have been nice
to have more teams.
The head-to-head, to me, you can just...
take a lead and then coast.
So I don't like that aspect
of the competition.
I'd want to see like four teams,
basically like the invitational.
If they could replicate like
the invitational style with
that sort of format and
just have a couple just shorter events,
just easier to follow.
I think that would be successful.
Yeah,
I'm okay with one long event to
just... I mean,
we hear Jamie complain
every competition that
there's no long event, right?
You have to test that at some point.
I'm okay with watching it once,
but there was like three
that went on for a while.
And I could have used those
to come back a little bit, but...
But I agree with you, Carolyn.
I think they proved the concept now.
Now you can modify and play.
I think if you went to four teams,
like Canada, Australia, Europe,
and North America,
just like the last Invitational,
it would be epic.
And you're still not filling
the floor with a bunch of people.
Right.
And I would have teams of six,
not eight for those,
like three and three.
And then you could have all
three or all...
individual matchups or
whatever but yeah I would
have more teams and teams
of six jeff said there at
the end that he felt like
it was not a lot of volume
so he maybe didn't do as
much as some of them he
wasn't tia he wasn't tia I
mean tia did all but two
events yeah they need they
definitely need rules
around that I feel like for the future
She tried her damn best to pull that team.
Of course she did.
I mean, I get it, but.
As a watcher, though,
I do think they should cap.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
Cap the number for each person.
That just brings more strategy into it.
And because it's a team competition,
it's not an individual competition.
Right.
But I think there's all like,
this would be amazing if
they just added a few tweaks.
And then the timing of it,
it didn't look like there
was as many fans.
I thought there would be no.
So was it,
do you think that they lost a
lot of money this weekend?
I have no idea.
I know it's a bad time of
the year with like the fall
is just very hard with all
the sports going on.
I just don't know if that
played a factor or if just
lack of promotion or new location,
California.
Yeah.
Can we all agree?
We can stop going to California.
Yeah.
Nobody wants to go there.
Sorry, Lex.
I think there were more
people at NorCal than there were at this.
And that's the other thing.
I feel like fans just went
to California for something
or people that live there
drove for an event just recently.
I don't know that putting
another event in California
two weeks after a pretty
major one is a good idea.
Dense updates said the fans
were the other divisions competing.
That's probably it.
That's not great.
You need, you need to draw more than just.
And how, like,
what was the price to enter?
Cause like,
like if they're going too high on,
on the first year,
like that can prevent a lot
of people from traveling
and going to watch.
Cause it is normally super expensive to,
to go to Waterpalooza and they upcharge.
Well,
I know when Jamie and I went to
Pasadena for semis last year,
like it was not a cheap trip.
No.
Like the flight alone was rough.
And then like we didn't stay
in the best hotel in the world.
In fact,
it was probably way down on the
list of hotels.
And we still paid a lot to go to Pasadena.
So Lynn says it was sixty
dollar single day tickets.
That's not terrible.
Erin and I were actually
talking about that while it
was on about the price for it.
And we both said it would be
good if it was like forty
forty dollars a day,
like forty dollars a day or
one hundred for the weekend to try to.
I mean,
it's it's weird for those outdoor
festival types like you
don't feel like you have.
It's not like going into the
Coliseum and having a seat
and you get like you just
it's just different.
It needs to be a little bit
more reasonable.
I agree with that.
But.
A college football game is a
hundred bucks.
We're not at that point.
Especially not for our first year.
It's a lot more lengthy time
for the competition that
you get to watch than a two,
three hour football game.
That's also part of the problem though.
Then you're buying lodging
for that whole weekend.
You have so many added
expenses to go to this
event that the price of
entry can't be tacked onto that.
And I think like we talked
about how like the Masters
had a lot of people,
but the location was good
because it was in that like
Southeastern United States
where there's a lot of fans,
a lot of training camps.
Yeah.
They could get there easy.
I think Southern California
has proven that they're not
great sports fans.
Correct.
And that's not just CrossFit.
Like their fans are
outnumbered at the Rams games.
Their fans are outnumbered
at the Charger games.
It's like the weather's just
so nice there that people
just are out doing other things.
Like just there's so many
options of things to do.
Right.
I agree.
And Corey, no,
not as bad as the hotel in Fort Wayne.
There is nothing worse.
Andrew says doing this Labor
Day weekend would be better.
Like Miami is President's Day.
Many people have money off.
But then you get the holiday
pricing on every hotel and every flight.
And it would have been in
conflict with the teenagers this year.
And the masters.
Yeah.
So the competition
registration was individual
three fifty nine and team
was nine sixty nine.
I didn't even see any of the
individuals or anything like that.
They didn't stream any of it.
Oh, okay.
Was anyone competing that was high level?
I didn't even look at who
was... I don't know.
I didn't see a roster.
I didn't even look at the
leaderboard at that.
Me either.
I saw like Jen Dieter had a
master's team there.
Yeah.
Just on Instagram.
So I know they had like the
community events just like
regular Guadalupe,
but I think it was mostly teams.
They didn't do like individuals.
I think they did individual.
I didn't see anybody post
anything about individual comp.
Oh, I did see the Grubb, Sam,
and Eric Hinman master team.
So...
One of the other,
just a couple of highlights
I had and some feelings.
I was shocked by the world team.
Their clean ladder
performance blew me away.
I think that's what made
Saturday night even better
is you got some shocking
results that you weren't expecting.
The underdog pulled some stuff off.
Yeah.
We are talking about Tia doing it all.
So here, Kaya,
did you see the video that
got published and then
taken down and then Hiller
put it back up?
I think that I think we need more of that.
So if people didn't see it,
to hear Kaya was watching a
video where Danielle
Brandon is talking about,
she doesn't know any of the
world athletes other than
Tia and isn't even sure any
of them made the games ever.
And then the video pops up
of Danielle dropping the
worm and the world team
just like a piston engine going to town.
And they crushed the women on that event.
And I think that that is awesome.
That's the cool stuff in
sports where you say
something and the other
team makes you pay for what you said.
And that is awesome.
And the rumor was that...
Sahir Kaya's sponsor made it come down.
Yeah.
And I think it made her look awesome.
I agree.
She didn't say anything.
She just was watching the
video of what Danielle said.
And then just the,
the real life action that
happened was her team
kicked Danielle team's ass.
The problem is,
is we treat women differently.
This is, this is what it is,
is if the boys do this type of things,
it's all fun and games.
And then the sponsor would
never say anything to Hopper doing that.
But,
there's an image that goes
behind like the girl,
like a girl doing her
sports and basically being quiet.
Like this stuff was awesome.
Like you should be able to
see like to post that stuff and, um,
you know, get put in your place.
If you, if you chirp and stuff like that,
like if the boys did it,
it would be funny.
The moment a girl does it like that,
like Danielle's getting, you know,
some comments on being too
cocky and stuff.
And like, it's just,
so it's always different.
It's like Danielle is
embraced by making those statements.
Right.
So I think that it's up for.
chirping back when it
doesn't come to fruition
right and we talked about
this when I was talking
about the hope solo a
documentary like she paid
for things that men would
never have paid anything
for for saying a hundred
percent there's a
difference between as soon
as as soon as a girl does
it as I won't say girl like
woman do it like it's just
like you're viewed
differently like it's not
it's like for a sponsor to
tell kaya to basically turn
it down like that's
You're treating her
differently because she's a woman.
You would never do that to Sprague,
to Hopper,
to Dallin after their videos of
them chirping.
Never.
That is a viral video that
would make Sahir more popular.
It would give her a
spotlight that she doesn't get normally.
Corey says,
Jamie talks shit to me all the
time and I'm here for it.
I do not.
Well, if you've watched the show,
Lex talks shit to me almost
on and every other day.
That's true.
And I get it every day as well from her.
I'm just curious who the sponsor is.
Is it
like a European company that has a,
like has a different sense of banter.
I, you know,
like just doesn't see the
value in that maybe, um, wants a clean,
wholesome, I don't know.
You like, we don't know who it was,
who the sponsor is.
So it's tough to say.
Yeah.
Uh, dense updates, by the way,
who's going to be on the show tomorrow.
Um,
who's kind of taken the world by storm
on Instagram.
Uh,
we're having her on to talk about why
she's doing what she's
doing and how she got there.
So, uh, her name is Jenny, by the way, uh,
if you didn't know that, uh,
we talk so much trash in our gym, uh,
but none of us are sponsored.
Some other things,
the clean ladder shocker I talked about,
which actually started with
Sihir Kaya killing it again.
And then I want to talk
about Nightfall and the dew
and how much effect that had on things.
How much is it worth having
the lights and the flashing
if everything's wet and
covered in dew every night?
And you see them going to
the rig like they're almost skating.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's something
that just needs to be
reviewed for future events.
I'm actually surprised, like,
Brent and Pat didn't call that out.
Like, that kind of stuff is unsafe.
Wall walking on that kind of stuff.
The handstand freestanding, like, Alexis,
like, slipped a couple times.
I think Guy as well, maybe.
On the obstacles on Friday night, like,
Danielle was chalking
between every person.
I wasn't sure whether it was
too dark and they couldn't see,
which I think was both.
Like it was so dark that
they couldn't see where
they were going and it was slippery,
which makes two things kind of, you know,
not the ideal situation.
Yeah, agreed.
And then I really liked the strategy,
especially in that event eight,
moving all the objects.
You could tell where
strategy actually played a
big role in North America
winning that one.
Uniforms and numbers,
I thought were awesome.
It made it so easy to tell
what team was what and who was who.
Because if you couldn't see the name,
at least you could see the number.
And they all picked numbers
that were special to them,
which was kind of cool.
I liked how they did that.
Yeah, I wanted a jersey.
I was like, damn, those look nice.
I want one.
They are sweet.
like you've been a team
sport athlete most of your
life right and I played
football and I played
baseball like I have
numbers that mean a lot to
me that I would love that
opportunity if I ever had a
chance to have a jersey
with my number on it and if
you've played team sports
it's you're on a team on
this event and it's cool
they got to have their
numbers and their names on
a jersey yeah I thought
that was a great addition
did we get did everyone
talk about their number
The only person I saw was
Ariel actually did an
Instagram post that she
picked her daughter's soccer number.
Okay.
That's cute.
Which was awesome.
I'm sure Pat picked his
lacrosse number and Brent
picked his volleyball
number or something like that.
Yeah.
I mean, that's what I would have done.
I mean,
I have a baseball number and a
football number.
It would have been one of those two.
Yeah.
Lynn said,
I wanted them to sell jerseys online.
They had the coolest jerseys
last year at the games,
but we couldn't get them online.
I like these better.
They just had some color, finally.
Like finally some color in a jersey.
And they had different colored pants.
It made it, and shorts.
It made it so easy to tell
what team was what.
Right.
I mean, I'd buy one of the,
the tier SoCal jerseys with
the number and the name on it.
I thought the jerseys looked sharp.
They look really nice.
It took me back to like,
nineteen eighties Houston
Astros with kind of the
striping on the front.
But that's just me.
I'm old.
And then Dallin Pepper and
Brent Fikowski doing fifty
cows on the echo bike in
thirty eight seconds.
Gross.
Are you kidding me?
That whole event was so gross.
But I loved watching every
second of it because I was
just seeing them die.
I was like, oh my gosh, this is so nasty.
But I'm there for it.
Those were the events that were awesome.
Oh, yeah.
The spotlight events.
The specialist type stuff.
Yeah.
The lifts, the gymnastics, that one.
Emily's last five burpees
where it looked like her
whole body had cramped.
Like, oh my gosh,
is she even going to be able to finish?
I know.
And then they all get on the
assault runner and look
like they're fine.
Yeah.
I figured Emily would be.
Like, I actually,
that's kind of how I
anticipated it going down
was Emily holding her own
on the burpees because
Grace went so hard on the bike.
Because Emily's an endurance athlete.
Like,
she's able to come around and recover.
And yeah, that one was super exciting.
Yeah.
Yeah,
because she had lost like six seconds,
I think,
on the echo bike and then
regained maybe three
seconds on the burpees,
three or four seconds.
And then they tied basically the run.
So that was really close.
I was impressed with Emily's bike,
to be honest.
It was closer than I expected.
Emily's a great... She's
great on the machines.
She's always been great.
She's not just a good runner.
She's got really good machine work.
Power output, though.
If you've seen her paces on
her rower and stuff when
she trains in her garage,
I've seen some of her paces.
I'm like, damn, that's so good.
There was no surprise there from my part.
She's really good on the machines.
People just view her as a runner.
Corey said Nick was the only
fan there not competing.
And then WadZombie actually
says it was packed.
The vendor area was popping
while the non-elite
competitors were going.
That's good to hear.
The one thing Wadapalooza
knocks out of the park,
and you could tell this in
Brian's tour of the facility,
as soon as you walk through the gate,
you had to walk through the vendors.
That's how it always should be.
Right.
And the games never does that.
The games has the vendors
off to a side or off the hell this year,
a block away.
It needs to be like the exit
lines at the grocery stores or whatever.
Like you have to go through it.
Right.
That's the only way that you
help support those vendors
that are literally funding
your competition for a lot of it.
Make people go through that.
The more that they can make,
the more other companies
are going to want to go there as well.
And it just keeps growing.
So I don't know why that's
not a thing at every competition.
It's really important that
the vendors are successful
for the competition to continue on.
when you're at Waterpalooza Miami,
you came in the gate at
Bayfront and you had to go
through a tunnel of vendors.
Then if you wanted to go to
the Bayfront stage,
you had to go through the
big vendor village to get
from there to Bayfront.
And you had to walk through
all those vendors.
And it looked like the same
kind of setup for this one
with Brian's tour.
And I think that
loud live do an amazing job
at that making sure that
the vendors have prime
locations to make money uh
wad zombie also said all
the agents I talked to said
this is the most fun the
athletes have had in a
while awesome and that's
probably important after
everything that's happened
this year having an event
for them to go have fun is
um is had to be number one priority
He also said the vendors
were open to the public, which was cool.
So you didn't even need a
ticket to get in there.
Wow.
Yes, the athlete signings and everything.
This is the best thing ever.
I don't know when they can
do it because semi athletes,
semis athletes are too
focused and at the games,
but I'd buy everything if I
get to meet Brent.
So I think.
And I loved how they came
together as a team.
I loved how like on that gross workout,
you have Justin icing down and down.
You have people shaking out
competitors legs,
taking their shoes off for them.
Like it was a, and you know,
if you've ever been a team athlete,
that's the coolest part of
being on a team is when you
come together like that.
And I thought that was epic.
And I was all in on all of that.
And you saw that on multiple events,
especially from Team World.
Like Tia was literally – if
she wasn't competing,
she was coaching every
single one of them and giving them chalk.
Like when Guy was doing the gymnastics one,
she was literally like
feeding him a water bottle every second,
the chalk.
Pat had no one there.
Like it just like – I just
felt like the Team World
had a little bit more –
it looked from the outside
that they had a little bit
more support of their athletes and,
and I guess like playfulness to them.
But yeah,
I like the fact that they were
helping each other out and stuff.
I don't know if they need to
be on the floor, but.
Yeah.
Kenneth says it looks silly to me.
When I was a swimmer,
and swimming is a team sport,
you have a lineup and you pick,
this guy does these three events,
this guy does these two events,
and so on and so forth.
But you give everything you
have for that team, and when you're done,
you're spent.
And when your teammates lift you up,
that is the best feeling in the world.
I thought it looked like it
just made it look like even
more so how hard that,
that event was the fact
that they needed that much
support and the ice there and the snacks.
And like,
it just shows how difficult that
event was on their bodies.
Um,
and those athletes that weren't doing
it knew how hard those athletes were.
And yes,
they were like making sure that
they could contribute anyway,
knowing that that athlete
is just selling their soul
for their team.
Right.
Um,
And probably secretly so
happy that it wasn't them because it is.
Yeah, that one was so gross to watch.
Nick comes back with it came.
It gave me goosebumps to see
these people are usually
all about themselves being
in a team environment.
Yeah.
So that's pretty much all I
had about the weekend.
Any,
any overall thoughts or you excited
for more things like this?
I know Carolyn said, you know,
expand it to like maybe a little bit,
a couple more teams do that
kind of thing.
Yeah.
I mean, I think it's a great start.
I would like to see it me,
but a little more invitational style,
a little more rules around it,
capping the amount of events you can do,
but yeah, it was awesome.
Uh, Bruce says,
why did Brent play for the world?
One, the world was decimated by injuries.
Um,
and Lazar was supposed to compete in this,
right?
So that's another person they lost Brent.
And according as I, it is understood,
I think he has dual citizenship.
I believe he's an Australian
citizen as well as a Canadian.
I think I've heard that too.
Yeah.
I don't know if he has citizenship,
but I know that he started
CrossFit in Australia, I believe.
So I think it came, I heard,
I believe this weekend he
has dual citizenship and he chose,
but the real reason is the
world was decimated.
Roman is injured.
Ricky is injured.
Lazar, you know,
we all know what happened there.
And that was three people
they had to replace.
And last minute Brent
stepped in to do that.
and uh lex just messaged me
that uh pat got mvp oh he
did oh wow that's not who I
would have picked but I'm
okay with it who picks it
like the athletes I think
it was a fan vote through
instagram or what do you
know where how I I don't I
didn't pay that much attention to it um
It's just one for the whole, like,
not like one from North America,
one from world.
It was just one.
It's just one.
Interesting.
Um, I, I, yeah, I, even though she lost,
I would have to give it to Tia.
Hmm.
She was valuable.
Of course she is, but you have to,
I feel like you need to see
somebody do something, uh,
incredible I thought he did
well this weekend I thought
he he was in a lot of the
events especially early on
um and performed better
than I think a lot of
people expected I think
yeah let me ask you this
after two days I was like I
was seriously sitting there
thinking why doesn't he do better
He didn't just win events.
He dominated.
That gymnastics event, he so impressed me.
He tied Pat on that one.
Yeah,
but if you're tying Pat Vellner in a
gymnastics event... He's
known for his gymnastics.
He's a specialist.
He's a gymnast specialist.
He's a weightlifting specialist.
It's the combination of
everything together with
the aerobic capacity.
That's where he'll struggle.
He looked terrible.
Today, he looked awful.
Yes.
The first day he did all the
workouts and he didn't get any,
any breaks.
I think over the weekend,
his recovery is
conditioning and stuff just
got the best of him.
But he started off really well.
John has spoken like he's,
he's a specialist for like, he's yeah.
Like he's gymnastics.
It's just,
he doesn't have it when it's
combined with a high heart rate.
I didn't say he was fit, John.
What I said was, after two days,
I was like, why isn't this guy better?
And, like, it's all there.
It feels like that student
that has all the potential
and doesn't put any of it forward, like,
doesn't put the work in around it,
Like, that's how I feel.
Like... I don't know.
Like, Dallin has gotten so much better at,
like, running and stuff like that.
Like,
why isn't Guy putting in that kind of
time?
Well, he may be,
but because he's so
specialized in strength and stuff, like,
there is... There's give somewhere else.
Like, he's just not aerobically there.
Like, Dallin isn't as specialized...
Like he's more well-rounded.
Okay.
I'm just, it just was a feeling I had.
I'm just sharing my feelings.
I agree with you.
Share away, share away.
I'm just sharing my feelings.
Like you can tell Dillon has
put in significant work on
running in aerobic capacity in general.
And yeah, you,
you feel like he maybe needs to just.
I'm just saying after those first few days,
you see that talent.
You're just like, why, why, why, why?
I mean,
genetically he's just more
explosive and yes.
Like,
like genetically you can't change that,
but yeah, that's what John is saying.
He's a more fast Twitch, which is,
I totally agree.
I think he is like pure fast
Twitch and I don't know how
long that take would take to,
cause I'm the complete opposite.
Like I can't, I don't know what I don't,
I can't get strong,
but I could go forever.
Um,
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah.
Okay.
So one of the other things
that happened this weekend
that I thought was as good
as anything else was reps ahead.
If you didn't watch the reps ahead,
it was the best version they've put out.
Um, the hopper Sprague match,
if you did not watch it
ended in a flat out tie.
Neither one could get more
than a couple of reps ahead.
After three rounds, it was dead.
Even they said that like he
got off the box first or whatever.
Well,
Sprague said today that they
announced him the winner of
to the crowd because they had to,
but everybody knows it was a tie.
They ended with the same number of reps.
Um,
and I think that that's what makes that
event now better.
Cause now don't you want to
see the rematch?
It's just like, um,
MMA or boxing or whatever.
I'd like to see a different format though.
I don't think that the
interval needs to be done
every time with the rest.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'd have to contemplate that a little bit.
But you had, like,
Annika completely dominated.
Her cycle time of the toast
of ours was super impressive,
and then she pushed the pace.
But she saw where she had to
push the pace.
Yeah.
And then Kyle just couldn't
quite match it.
Lauren Stallwood did well, too.
Better than...
Then I expected, like,
she took the win fairly early.
Yeah,
she knocked Devin Kim out pretty quick.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, she did well.
Again,
I thought the women's one was good
for a different reason.
Like,
I thought you could see the strategy
and them where they had to
pick up the pace to win.
And it was both knockouts
and then the tie.
But I don't see how Bruce
says it's not a tie.
They ended with the same number of reps.
Not sure.
There was no rule of who won
the last round or anything.
They were trying to make
something up on the floor.
That's what James said today
in his interview with Peter.
Him and Hopper both know it was a tie.
it's never happened before.
Right.
They weren't prepared for it.
And it was really cool to
look at their different strategies.
Like Hopper was
significantly better on the toaster bar.
The, and then, um,
James was better on the box
jump overs and the touch and go on the,
on the snatches.
So two, two movements for James, one for,
um, Hopper.
And like every time one would get a lead,
it would get, you know,
right back to square like zero basically.
Um,
so yeah I I still just would
want to see a different
format I think I've seen
this one kind of play out a
few more times than I need
to not sure what the exact
format but I don't know I
like it as an alternative
for a quick a quick watch
and if you if you're gonna
have big names doing it I'm
gonna watch it oh absolutely
And they may,
they may tweak it and have
better formats or different formats where,
you know, this, yeah, I think it,
I think it'd be cool.
The matchups are what makes
it super interesting to me.
Like I want to see something
like Hopper versus James,
where the strategies are
different and how that plays out.
Bruce,
why does one have to be better than
the other?
Can't we enjoy both?
Just saying.
All right.
Next thing we have is the
Rogue Invitational has announced who,
from the queue,
got their invite to the
Rogue Invitational.
And a little bit of a surprise on this.
So I am going to share my
notes page real quick because I have it.
Here, from the women,
they are bringing six
people from the queue,
and that is Mano Anganese, Sydney Wells,
Taylor Williamson, Emma Tall, Taylor Howe,
and Dana Peran.
Um, Dana Pran, this is right up her alley,
uh, former weightlifter.
We interviewed her for
semifinals and we
interviewed her at semifinals this year.
Uh, which is awesome.
Got to know her too.
Yeah.
If you've not heard her story,
she went through a horrific
ankle injury and is still
doing amazing things.
I'm super stoked for her
that she gets this opportunity.
On the male side, we have Georgios Kervis,
Sam Kornwaye, Guy Mejeros,
Heinrich Kappelainen,
and Jorge Fernandez.
There was, as always,
a lot of shakeup after
video review with Rogue.
Saw some of the appeals on
Instagram that were denied.
Rogue plays no jokes with
their video review.
Yeah.
What was Tudor's penalty?
I don't even know what his penalty was,
but it dropped him all the
way to like twenty-eighth.
Yeah.
Tudor and Cole.
And Cole didn't drop as much.
It wasn't as – a five-minute
penalty for Tudor.
Yeah,
I was bummed to see that he got – Did
he have a sand guard maybe
on the echo bike?
Lynn says it was in the snatches.
It was in the snatches.
Hmm.
That's too bad.
I was bummed about that.
You'd think that this is
year what now of these qualifiers.
You've got to be weighing your weights.
You've got to be showing your screens.
You've got to move well.
Cause if you get no reps somewhere,
sometimes they'll just end
the workouts there.
You got to read the rules.
Yeah.
And just make sure that
you're accountable as an
athlete for the video that
you're going to be submitting.
Like this happens every year
for someone to go from like.
Fifteenth all the way into
the top five is crazy.
How many people above that just.
Think that because they have
experience or whatever,
they're just going to be like,
everything's going to be fine.
People should, people should know better.
Yeah.
Halpin has a good post on
penalties somewhere on his Instagram.
I agree.
I saw it.
He actually has like what,
where the position was before the review,
what it was after the view,
all that kind of stuff.
So go check that out on Instagram.
It's done really well.
But you're right, Carolyn.
Like if Travis Mayer,
one of the most experienced
people in CrossFit gets dinged by rogue,
like nobody is,
nobody is above the penalties.
Yeah.
And you have to read the rules.
So looks like Sam isn't retiring.
Didn't he say after the
games he was pretty much done?
Sam Cornwall?
Yeah.
Well,
he's training for a high rocks right now.
I know that.
But that's interesting.
I mean,
there's some good athletes there
that are good for Rogue.
Those women are super strong.
And there's some specialists there.
Like, Gi, obviously,
is going to be exciting to
watch for whatever lift
they're going to do.
You know,
it's just interesting every time
the qualifiers and how they
do when they get there.
Last year,
who was the top qualifier that
did well out of the queue?
I think there was...
One or two.
Normally they're towards the end,
but I think last year there
was a couple that actually did well.
A rogue doesn't care who you are.
They will penalize.
That is true.
And that's how it should be.
And that's how it should be.
Yep.
MN Rogue is going to be epic.
Like Taylor Williamson at
Rogue is going to be great.
Like she's got some home run capabilities.
I think they mine Mano and
Ghanese for car batteries.
I think that's, oh gosh,
now I can't even say the real word.
My periodic table knowledge
has fallen apart.
Wad Zombie says, those who can CrossFit,
those who can't, High Rocks.
Why can't you do both?
I'm doing the High Rocks in
two weeks just for fun with my friend.
It's in Toronto, so I'm hopping in on it.
I'm not training for it.
Are you going to hydrate before this one?
Oh, my gosh.
I will try.
Okay.
I think I need to just run
with like one of those
belts with just hydration or something.
Is that the week before crash?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like October fifth.
So let me ask you this.
I've seen like you doing
handstand over obstacles
and all this stuff in your training.
Are you doing that because of crash?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah,
I just wanted to touch up on some
things that I felt could
maybe show up at crash
because they've had those
handstand stuff before.
So I tried to do some hurdle
yesterday for the first time.
And then I haven't touched
the stairs and ramp since I
was on the demo team last
year and I had to test it.
So took that out.
Yeah, just playing around.
Yeah, I just,
because the only place I've
even seen that, like,
in the last couple years
has been at Crash.
So I was just curious if
that's what was going through your head.
Yeah, that's going to be fun.
Can't wait to watch you do that.
And then the last thing we
have for tonight is Brian
Spin actually talked about
this Wednesday night on The Spin.
But he found a permit in
Miami for where the new
location of Guadalupalooza,
Miami was going to be.
And I pulled up the Google
Maps of that area.
so uh try to blow this up
ben is so good at finding
these things like he is so
on top of it you just go
there to find out
everything that's going on
So basically,
it's along the beach from Sixth Street,
which is right... This is
the start of Sixth Street,
if you can see my mouse.
And it goes all the way to
either Tenth or Eleventh.
So that goes all the way up
to... There's Tenth right there.
Or Eleventh is this next street here.
So that's quite a bit of...
uh, area that that's covering, uh,
and would be, uh, pretty crazy.
Um, Bayfront park was about a city block.
Okay.
So if now you're talking
maybe two city blocks with a warm-up area,
let's go two city blocks.
And if now you're expanding
to four or five,
that's a much bigger area
that you get to put your competition.
And I think that's pretty amazing.
How big do you feel like it
was at Huntington Beach?
It seemed big, the amount of –
wad zombie would be our our
guy he was there in in real
life uh so he would be able
to know um alex says
barbell spin is really the
barbell sleuth uh spin is a
sleeper agent for the cia
who fell in love with crossfit
So, um, but yeah,
this is all credit to spin.
He's the one that announced
it on his show.
Uh,
but I just wanted to show you guys that's,
that's a pretty,
and there's all this park, um,
but before the beach, um,
all the way down.
Can you change that to
satellite view that bottom left thing?
This.
Yeah.
Two.
Yeah.
Then we can, that's good.
So we can just sort of see it better.
OK.
So that's six to like the
very let me pull it down
just a little bit.
OK, so here's sixth all the way to tenth.
And all of this is park.
In this area before you get
out to the beach.
Better start booking your stuff now.
Yeah, goodness.
Coeur d'Alene touristy,
so souvenir shops and Red Lobster.
That I don't know.
I saw there was a mattress
shop somewhere around there.
There's a Wet Willie's if
you want your frozen drinks.
Muscle Beach.
nice how how close is this
to like peak that I have no
idea I'm I'm not spin I'm
not barbell sleuth um but
yeah not close according to bruce
But Bruce told us last week, I think,
that it's about twenty
minutes from where it used to be.
But that's dependent on traffic.
Which Miami traffic is not very good.
But that's what we have going on in Miami.
Well, hopefully it'll feel less crowded.
So one thing we forgot to
talk about was adaptive.
Yeah.
Dang it.
So much happened in this weekend.
So I watched a lot of
adaptive Thursday and
Friday and just a little
bit over the weekend.
And my,
my general thoughts on it were they
did a really great job.
We did an amazing job setting it up.
It was held in what appeared
to be a sports complex and,
And I loved the first event
on Thursday was a row, a ski, a bike,
and a run.
And the run,
they made a track out of
multiple tennis courts
where you kind of went out and around.
And in the morning,
they weren't showing the run much.
And I was like, in the chat, like,
all I want to do is see
where the run goes.
And then they showed a lot
of the run in the afternoon.
And it was really cool.
It was a really cool setup
out and around this tennis court.
And it was hot that day.
But it was really cool.
And then... Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
I really enjoyed it.
A lot of impressive athletes.
When the one-point upper
were cleaning more than I
can with two points, I was really...
really frustrated with that.
But other than that, super impressive.
Yeah, I agree.
I was I was impressed with coverage,
just the setup the I mean,
it looks like the athletes
were extremely well taken care of there.
It,
it looked like it felt a little more
professional than what we
experienced personally.
What I thought was a really
cool move was day one was
outside on that run,
and they made wearing the
uniforms optional so they
could wear lighter clothing because...
some of the adaptives are,
they are sun sensitive.
Um, and so they,
because they were doing it for some,
they did it for the entire
community and allowed them
to wear whatever they wanted.
And then as they went indoors,
they then made the,
the uniforms mandatory.
So I thought that was,
that was a cool move by wheel wad in,
in all that.
Um, but yeah, it, and it,
and it brought to light even more, uh,
More categories of adaptive, maybe, like,
you got to see people that
it appears they have both legs,
but one doesn't work like it should.
Or, you know, they have an arm,
but it doesn't work at all.
And that they have slings
that they use to keep it.
If it has limited,
they sling it away so you can't use it.
Mm-hmm.
to make it fair.
Like there was a lot of
things I learned about it.
But what was amazing is
going through all the different divisions,
how they modified the rower
so that everybody could use it,
how they modified the bike, how they like,
it just was really a cool
way to kind of see all the
different ways.
If you're a coach,
how you could scale for
anybody coming into your
gym by flipping the
Um,
I don't know if you saw that they
flipped the rower up or
they just put it down and
they brought the chain up over the box,
but they put it under a
dumbbell to keep it like in a track.
Okay.
They could, they could pull on it.
Um,
the bike had handles where you went to
the outside of the bike and
you could just crank on it if you,
if you were on a wheelchair.
Uh huh.
Um,
it just a lot of cool things
where you could see how
anybody could use the
equipment in your gym in a
different way and still get
a really good workout.
Is Kevin the only one programming?
Like it's like his mind,
the only one that's
programming for all those divisions.
Cause that's very impressive that he has,
I mean,
I'm sure he's going to other
professionals that are like,
or like other athletes that.
I know he's the head programmer or,
or responsible for it
doesn't mean he didn't get help.
Yeah.
But,
yeah, I don't know.
That'd be a great question to ask him.
Cause that's a lot to think
about like the amount of
different divisions and
adaptations that you have to do.
Um,
but it's great to see the addition of
all those new divisions
that couldn't be there at
the regular old CrossFit games.
Um,
and I think that if they can continue
to showcase it,
it's only going to just keep growing.
Um,
and give a, you know,
an opportunity to a lot of
athletes out there that
don't know that this exists, you know,
a dream to, to perform on that big stage.
So, um,
really cool to see and I'm happy
that it looked like it was
successful and hopefully
they find a good weekend
next year for it.
That allows more people to
get some eyes on it.
They, I looked at the,
at the stats as I was
watching on Thursday and
Friday closely and,
They were staying around
eight hundred on Thursday.
It was around six hundred on Friday.
I was hoping those numbers
would be a little bit higher.
But if you have a chance,
go go watch a little bit of it.
Just give them a view.
Give them a like.
So at least it pushes it out
a little bit more.
So people who don't know
what goes on with adaptive
athletes in the sport can see it.
But it doesn't cost you
anything to start up a video.
And hit the like button.
These athletes need
highlighted any way we can do that.
And I highly encourage you
to go out and do that.
You should do that for all the cross.
If you are into CrossFit and
you love watching it,
you should start every
CrossFit video of these
athletes competing and hit
the like button at the very least.
Get the numbers up as high
as you can because that's
what sells to companies who
want to sponsor.
That sells to companies who
want to be able to stream.
And we need more competition
of production companies who
are willing to stream.
Because one thing I will say,
I think we use the same
basic production company
for just about everything.
And when you hit...
When you hit spots where the
audio goes out, it's frustrating.
It would be nice to have
some competition in the
space so that everybody got
better and maybe the price
gets lowered and more
people can see things that we do.
That's all I got to say
about that's my little mini
riff of the week.
and hit the like button on this podcast,
sure.
We appreciate it, too.
We appreciate it very much.
So that's all I got for tonight.
We have tomorrow.
We have Jenny Hall coming on tomorrow,
who is Dense Updates,
talking about what she's
doing in the space.
We have episode three of the
behind-the-scenes of the
Masters CrossFit Games
coming tomorrow at one
o'clock Eastern time, ten a.m.
Pacific time.
And other than that,
that's about it for this weekend.
We are thinking about moving
the roundtable to Thursday
afternoons at twelve
fifteen instead of Tuesdays
because Amy runs a
preschool and that
preschool needs her on Tuesdays now.
So we're thinking about
moving it to Thursdays.
Plus it splits our two shows
apart like about half a
week apart from each other.
um and gives us a little
more fresh ideas going into
each show so uh if you
don't see us tuesday look
for us on thursday um I
will get with them first
thing tomorrow morning and
we will have a definitive
and I'll get it out into
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