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Tyson Popplestone is a Comedian from Melbourne Australia. Join him for a brand new interview each week.
[pete]: Nah, that was sweet, but...
[Tyson]: Man, it's so good to have the opportunity
to sit down with you. I was going down the
[Tyson]: Pete Evans rabbit hole the last few
days just to get ready. And man, it has been
[Tyson]: so much fun between the YouTube videos,
between the mainstream media stories, Tracy
[Tyson]: Grimshaw's current affair story about
you, where they came to your property after
[Tyson]: your yoga session. Mate, there's so
many different directions I feel we could take
[Tyson]: this conversation because there's so
many. different themes that the media seems
[Tyson]: to love speaking about you in regards
to. But essentially, I was saying to my wife
[Tyson]: last night, he believes food is essentially
medicine. He believes love and connection is
[Tyson]: a good thing for you. He believed we
had capacity to influence our immune system.
[Tyson]: He believes we should do things that
we love. I don't really understand what the
[Tyson]: issue is. So I thought perhaps as a
way of introduction, I mean, I will have let
[Tyson]: everyone who doesn't listen from Australia
know your background here on Australian TV.
[Tyson]: People here are gonna know a lot about
you. Where, as the media like to put it, where
[Tyson]: did things go so wrong, Pete?
[pete]: Well, it depends on your perception,
whether
[Tyson]: Hehehehe
[pete]: you look at it through the lens of being
wrong or, you know, I don't like to live in
[pete]: those worlds of right and wrong or good
and bad and, you know, black and white, so
[pete]: to speak. I like to look at it through
as many different perspectives as I can. And,
[pete]: you know, I have the perspective that
everything is absolutely perfect. And one of
[pete]: the things I'm often asked is, is how
do you deal with such scrutiny for your opinions
[pete]: and beliefs and views and perceptions
out in the world. And I go, well, again, it
[pete]: comes back to your perception. You know,
because I had it on the weekend, actually.
[pete]: I had a my wife and I were running a
wellness retreat and we had a fellow there
[pete]: that was in his 70s and he said, you
know, you've copped a lot. I said, well, it
[pete]: depends on which way you look at it.
I said all of that media noise and the game,
[pete]: so to speak, they're in an industry
to create headlines, to create more eyeballs
[pete]: looking at their content. They're in
the business of delivering content because
[pete]: the more content and the more eyeballs,
the more advertising revenue they get. So once
[pete]: you know the game, you know how to play
it. And for me, as I said to this man, I said,
[pete]: without the media, I would never have
been able to get this message out to as many
[pete]: people as I could have. And I use them
as one of the tools that I have, or that any
[pete]: of us have, to be able to share a message.
And... when you come at it from the perspective
[pete]: that they cannot harm you in any way,
you know, whether it be emotionally or physically,
[pete]: hopefully it doesn't come to that,
[Tyson]: Yeah.
[pete]: and that... that is their game, you
can, you can, I don't wanna say manipulate
[pete]: it, but you can play in that reality
if you choose to. And I chose to, you know,
[pete]: I was already in the mainstream media
for, I had a 20 year career hosting cooking
[pete]: shows and cooking is just, cooking television
or celebrity chefs is just about sharing information.
[pete]: And the path that I chose was home cooked
meals. And that eventually evolved into nutritious
[pete]: meals. And then understanding how the
body worked and sharing that information out
[pete]: there into the world. And I guess things
started changing for me from the media point
[pete]: of view when I started talking about
long-term regenerative health. You know, and
[pete]: when you see the game that the media
is involved in, a lot of their advertising
[pete]: dollars come from multinational food
companies. They come from either directly or
[pete]: indirectly from the medical, pharmaceutical
model, depending on which part of the world
[pete]: in which you are playing the game in.
And... We know that there's conflicts of interests
[pete]: between say the dietitians association
and multinational food corporations. We know
[pete]: there's conflict of interest between
pharmaceutical companies and medical associations
[pete]: or industries. We know that there's
conflicts of interest between media and these
[pete]: outlets. All of this is being exposed.
We know that there's conflicts of interest
[pete]: between politics and lobbying groups,
whether it be the pharmaceutical, the agricultural,
[pete]: the chemical. industries and so on and
so forth. And there's these overlapping realities
[pete]: and facts and truths in which that game
is being played. So when I started to talk
[pete]: about long-term regenerative health,
how to look after our immune system as you
[pete]: pointed out, how to cook yourself healthy
and maintain that health by perhaps eliminating
[pete]: a certain food groups. or eliminating
certain products from your diet, whether it
[pete]: be seed oils, whether it be fluoride
from your water that you're cooking with, whether
[pete]: it be this, that and the other, whether
you choose a healthy sunscreen to put onto
[pete]: your body instead of one that has known
carcinogenic effects. When I started talking
[pete]: about that, that's where their narrative
changed from Pete the boy next door sharing
[pete]: great recipes to... Okay, here's somebody
that is actually educating people on something
[pete]: that
[pete]: is going against the narrative of potentially
where our sponsors or advertisers have their
[pete]: vested interests in,
[Tyson]: Yeah.
[pete]: you know, I love the great meme, you
know, that, uh, where they talk about the pharmaceutical
[pete]: companies, you know, that they're not
going to create products that take them out
[pete]: of business. You know? And it's as simple
as that, you know? And I'm just using that
[pete]: as one of the truths that is out there.
So when we start to talk about these things
[pete]: where we take health into our own hands,
hopefully then you don't have to end up in
[pete]: those systems, the medical system down
the track, where you can be... a highly functioning
[pete]: healthy individual for the rest of your
life. And the fellow I was talking to the other
[pete]: day, he's 70 years old, he was a chiropractor
and is a chiropractor. And he was telling me
[pete]: that he went to see a doctor last year
for the first time. You know, a lot of people
[pete]: don't have doctors, you know, this is
that reality as well that so many people live
[pete]: in. I mean, I don't have a GP, I don't
have a doctor, I haven't seen a GP for, I don't
[pete]: know, 20, 30 years, except to maybe
get a malaria tablet for traveling overseas.
[pete]: And now I'd
[pete]: But for so many people that live in
that system where they have the GP, they go
[pete]: and get their tests. And this fellow
was saying that when he saw the doctor, the
[pete]: doctor said, have you had a colonoscopy?
Have you had another test where they stick
[pete]: the tube down your throat? How do you
get your cholesterol checked? And the guy said,
[pete]: no. He goes, well, maybe you should.
And the guy said, well, why wouldn't the doctor
[pete]: celebrate me as a 70 year old that is
not on any medication of any type that is living
[pete]: a healthy life and going and say, continue
doing what you're doing because you seem to
[pete]: be doing better than most of my patients
that are on this, that and the other, you know?
[pete]: And even that reality of medical trained
professionals they sort of miss some of a miss
[pete]: that reality that we are actually designed
as human beings to be healthy. It's our birthright
[pete]: and it's our fault. Our body is always
striving for homeostasis which means being
[pete]: in balance and being in harmony. That's
our default setting. When disease or illness
[pete]: appears it means something's in a balance
and then the big question is what's out of
[pete]: balance? Am I working too hard? Am I
not getting enough sleep? Is my diet poor?
[pete]: and my relationships causing stress
on my life? Have I got financial insecurity,
[pete]: this, that, and the other? Once we get
to the root cause of why am I out of balance?
[pete]: Why am I not in harmony? You know, that
should be the first question that anybody asks
[pete]: potentially before they go and see a
doctor, you know, if you have a car accident
[pete]: or chewed on by a shark or have a, have
an accident of any type of physical accident,
[pete]: then straight to the doctor, you know,
stitch me up, please. You know,
[Tyson]: It's
[pete]: they
[Tyson]: been...
[pete]: serve a wonderful purpose in that reality.
[Tyson]: For sure, it's been one of the most
interesting things because everything that
[Tyson]: you just said then to anyone listening
to myself, you go, no, that makes perfect sense.
[Tyson]: What Pete just said, it's common sense
really. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
[Tyson]: And yet with that exact statement that
you just made, I'll be not surprised at all
[Tyson]: if on news.com.au, they release another
article saying, Pete Evans says once again,
[Tyson]: mainstream medicine is unhelpful, unuseful
and shouldn't be touched when it's. Not what
[Tyson]: you're saying it's all at all, it's
got its purpose, but for so many of us, and
[Tyson]: I think it's probably been magnified
the last couple of years more than
[pete]: Mm-hmm.
[Tyson]: any other time, at least in my life,
I'm 36 years old, and I've always been at least
[Tyson]: interested in health and nutrition
for as far back as I can remember. That doesn't
[Tyson]: mean I've always been right. I mean,
I got sucked in as a 12 year old thinking the
[Tyson]: low fat diet was the right one for
me. Only to speak to a number of nutritionists
[Tyson]: as I got older and realized no, they're
pretty heavily substituted with sugars But
[Tyson]: but in saying that like my mind's been
changed of open my eyes I've learned new things
[Tyson]: and essentially from what I can tell
from where I see it you're on a deep dive of
[Tyson]: I guess a self-education You're tapping
into what is actually good for us and good
[Tyson]: for others speaking about it openly
Being open about what you know and what you
[Tyson]: don't know and I mean your perspective
on it is very refreshing I think you're a more
[Tyson]: patient man than me I think if I was
pigeonholed or painted in the way that you
[Tyson]: have been in a number of the videos
Maybe I shouldn't tell you about the videos
[Tyson]: in case you didn't know
[pete]: Yeah, I-
[Tyson]: In a number of videos I wouldn't be
able to help but fire back and even Even mainstream
[Tyson]: media again last night like the so-called
conversations where you're giving you're given
[Tyson]: a chance to speak like Pete Evans tries
to redeem his wild statements on a kiss with
[Tyson]: Kyle and Jackie-O. I listened to that
again last night. And it's just such a, as
[Tyson]: much as I like, Kyle, I don't really
know Jackie-O as much. I like the fact that
[Tyson]: he's a bit controversial and he's happy
to have opinions that you're not supposed to
[Tyson]: have. He's fun to listen to for that
reason. As much as I enjoy it, there's still
[Tyson]: such a limited opportunity to actually
share what you really believe. And between
[Tyson]: the actual, like the entertainment
side of that, before trying to poke into a
[Tyson]: couple of controversial points with
the intern shouting you down over your coat,
[Tyson]: your magic COVID lamp. And the beeps,
like all the beeps, there seems to be no genuine
[Tyson]: conversation. So has this been a period
of you getting more comfortable with the fact
[Tyson]: that you're not gonna get an honest
conversation in that world anymore? How do
[Tyson]: you accept the fact that what they're
portraying you as is actually... not what you
[Tyson]: believe because I understand the idea
that it actually helps you get your message
[Tyson]: out there but in a lot of ways they
manipulate who you are and what you say which
[Tyson]: is not your message at all.
[pete]: Yeah, again, I'll go back to once you
know the game, then you can choose to play
[pete]: it, you know, and using Kyle and Jackie,
I was a great example for the listeners or
[pete]: viewers that unaware last week I was
invited or the week before to go on Kyle and
[pete]: Jackie, which is the number one radio
show or channel on Australian radio commercial
[pete]: radio. And it's been a few years since
I've been interviewed by them and they interviewed
[pete]: me pretty much at the start of COVID
and it was wonderful. They actually gave me
[pete]: about a 15-20 minute opportunity to
talk about COVID, vaccines, immune system,
[pete]: this, that, the other and it was uninterrupted
and it was great. Interestingly enough after
[pete]: that they came out as very pro-vaccine,
both of them, and who knows whether that was
[pete]: bought on from the powers above them.
because I know it was quite a controversial
[pete]: episode. And when they reached out,
the producer reached out and said, Kyle and
[pete]: Jackie O, they wanna do a new segment
called Uncancelled. And we wanna start with
[pete]: you because you're one of the most cancelled
people in Australia. And I said, yeah. And
[pete]: I knew exactly what was going to happen.
I didn't know that they'd bleep out most of
[pete]: it because when I was recording the
interview, I couldn't hear the beeps. And when
[pete]: I listened back to it and I heard all
the beeps, all the censoring on there, I was
[pete]: like, okay. there are gender all along
you know and what I mean by that is again how
[pete]: does media work? they need to one, create
a controversial story or a headline. That is
[pete]: sensational. And that then gets picked
up and redistributed through the news outlets
[pete]: in this country, for instance. And for
them to be able to go on and bleak me out,
[pete]: that created the narrative for them
to create a story. You know, and you can see
[pete]: how it works when you really take a
view back to see what is. their desired outcome
[pete]: and their desired outcomes. More listeners,
more debate, more controversy, more new sharing
[pete]: of their program. And they nailed it,
you know, because a lot of the things that
[pete]: I said that they'd bleeped out, it wasn't
censor worthy in my opinion, because I was
[pete]: just stating facts that are available
in so many scientific magazines. You know,
[pete]: we know that masks have never stopped
[Tyson]: Ah,
[pete]: viruses.
[Tyson]: la
[pete]: You
[Tyson]: la,
[pete]: know?
[Tyson]: don't say it Pete. Yeah I know.
[pete]: Yeah, we know that we knew that at the
start, many people, many doctors were reporting
[pete]: this saying, you know, wearing a mask
has no efficacy to stop the spread of virus
[pete]: because the N95 masks even though they're
the gold standard, you know, the junctions
[pete]: in them between the fibers. they're
too large to stop a virus, if you believe in
[pete]: them, that's microscopic, you know,
they just pass through it. And I remember memes
[pete]: at the start of COVID where they'd say
it was like a metal fence trying to stop a
[pete]: mosquito from flying through,
[Tyson]: ..
[pete]: it'll just never work and the holes
are that big and the mosquito is this big,
[pete]: you know? And the same with the vaccines,
all the politicians, health experts said it
[pete]: would stop you from. transmitting COVID
and it would stop you from catching COVID.
[pete]: And we've come to realize, and as I
stated, many of the politicians that stated
[pete]: that ended up with COVID after they've
had their two or three or four jabs or five
[pete]: jabs. And it didn't stop people from
going into hospital. And that seems to be the
[pete]: narrative that they're clinging onto
now is, oh, it stopped the severity of it if
[pete]: you did end up in hospital. And I kindly
or politely said, I'm sure that the evidence
[pete]: will show that was also misinformation
down the track. So how do you deal with that
[pete]: type of thing? One, you take full responsibility
and accountability for your own actions. So
[pete]: I chose to go onto that program knowing
full well there would be some sort of agenda
[pete]: behind it or desired outcome for the
radio network. But at the same time... I also
[pete]: had been on Kyle and Jackie O before
where they'd given me a serious amount of time
[pete]: to be able to just express myself. So
I weighed up those options. I thought, okay,
[pete]: I'm happy to put myself in there and
whatever comes from it, whatever headline that
[pete]: comes out is that and the other, I'm
okay with that. So taking accountability, responsibility
[pete]: and not becoming the victim is the key
here. Because A lot of people over the years,
[pete]: they say, how do you deal with it? And,
and I, I respond by saying, if you fear what
[pete]: other people think of you, then perhaps
that's an opportunity or an invitation for
[pete]: you to go on your own journey and work
out why that's such a problem for you or why
[pete]: that causes you to go into a state of
panic or fear. because that seems to be the
[pete]: overriding message that I get from people
is how do you deal with it? So from my perception,
[pete]: it's like, why are you so concerned
about what other people think? I mean, I'm
[pete]: just presenting a version of somebody
that has a nation potentially judging you.
[pete]: You know, when we see that, and this
is why that, I am so... controversial and polarizing
[pete]: and such great click bait for the mainstream
media because when they do a story about me
[pete]: and I'll go onto their Facebook page
whether it's News.com or Kyle and Jackie O
[pete]: and the Kyle and Jackie O is a great
example if you look at their Facebook page.
[pete]: and where they posted about me, I think
there's nearly a thousand comments on there.
[pete]: But then you go to the next story that
they released and there might be 200 comments
[pete]: or 100 comments or 50 comments. And
it's the same thing on news.com, it's the same
[pete]: thing on any of these news outlets.
For some reason, the stories about me get great
[pete]: attraction and greater debate and greater
conversation and greater comments. And again,
[pete]: that's what they're after, to stay relevant
so that the producers get their tick. story.
[pete]: I got 800 comments by sharing this story.
Whereas my other journalist friend created
[pete]: that story, they got 50 comments on
their page, you know, they have these KPIs
[pete]: and they get patted on the back when
they're doing a good job. So I understand I
[pete]: have a draw card in that reality that
garners that controversy, that polarization,
[pete]: the debate, the public debate. And when
you go through the comments, you can very easily
[pete]: see that there's people for, there's
people against, there's people that are sort
[pete]: of sitting on the fence. And one of
the reasons why I do what I do when I'm invited
[pete]: to do these things is because there
are a lot of people that are sitting on the
[pete]: fence. And potentially, if they hear
me talking about long-term regenerative health.
[pete]: and have the opportunity to talk freely,
maybe that'll land for that person that's sort
[pete]: of considering that some of the things
that they're hearing in mainstream are not
[pete]: resonating with them 100% like they
used to. And maybe it opens a doorway for them
[pete]: to go down some different paths and
learn about some of the things that we're talking
[pete]: about. So that's one of the other reasons
why I do it is because those people sitting
[pete]: on the fence, you know? And one of the
other reasons is to show people that it is
[pete]: okay not to care about what other people
think, that it can't hurt you unless you make
[pete]: it hurt you. And it's one of the greatest
fears people have is not being part of the
[pete]: tribe, being banished from society,
excommunicated. You know, it goes back into
[pete]: all the myths and stories of people
being shunned from their village or shunned
[pete]: from the tribe. And when we look into
the hero's journey, of these many great stories
[pete]: and mythologies that have permeated
human culture, part of the hero's journey is
[pete]: that step away from the tribe, is that
step into that element of aloneness, walking
[pete]: the path that very few seem to willingly
wish to take because it's so uncertain. There's
[pete]: so much that comes up within oneself
when they depart on a path that's very different
[pete]: from, let's say, their family, from
their friends, from society, from the norm,
[pete]: from the...
[pete]: the script, so to speak. And as we know
in all of those mythologies and all of those
[pete]: great storylines, when somebody goes
on the hero's journey, they do have to face
[pete]: their fears on that path. But by going
into the fear, by confronting that, they break
[pete]: through the other side and they end
up coming back and sharing their gifts with
[pete]: others. And I'm not saying that I'm
sharing my gifts with anything. All I know
[pete]: is that I represent for some people.
the ability to navigate that world without
[pete]: it phasing me or being a negative influence
on my physiology, on my mental or emotional
[pete]: state, my physical state, my spiritual
mind. that it is okay to break away and you
[pete]: will be okay.
[Tyson]: Yeah.
[pete]: I mean, I'm going pretty deep here,
but that's one thing that a lot of people actually
[pete]: come up and say to me, thank you for
doing that because it gave me the opportunity
[pete]: to confront my own fears and know that
it is safe to be able to share my message,
[pete]: to be able to share my own truth, whatever
it may be in somebody's life. And we're all.
[pete]: going on that journey, whether we like
it or not of, I mean, my network is called
[pete]: Evolve. the idea to evolve and many
people believe to evolve it is to confront
[pete]: our deepest darkest fears, that shadow
part of ourself that we suppress, that we hide
[pete]: away. And all I'm here to share is that,
when we do confront our fears, there's so much
[pete]: that we can learn about ourselves, whatever
fear it may be, public speaking. swimming with
[pete]: sharks, and I was surfing with sharks.
They're two of my big ones that I had to learn
[pete]: how to confront was public speaking.
And then also I love surfing, but sharks were
[pete]: always a big concern for me. So I learned
how to scuba dive and I chose diving locations
[pete]: where I could swim and scuba dive with
the sharks to get myself over that fear. Cause
[pete]: I wanted to surf for the rest of my
life, but I didn't want that thought in the
[pete]: back of my mind. Like... Fuck, there's
sharks out here. I didn't wanna be scared in
[pete]: that situation. And now at the age of
50, I'll surf by myself, I'll surf with other
[pete]: people, I'll surf at sharky locations.
And again, I'm not saying that there's no risk
[pete]: involved. There was a fellow that got
eaten, he had a bite taken out of him yesterday
[pete]: surfing in WA. It's part of the risk,
it's part of the adventure, it's part of the
[pete]: adrenaline, it's part of the experience.
But I didn't want to go out, spend the rest
[pete]: of my life in that state of fear, because
that was debilitating for me. Whereas now I'm
[pete]: neutral to it. I'm like, I'm not fearful.
I know they exist. There is a possibility that
[pete]: this could be my last surf, but so be
it.
[Tyson]: Yeah.
[pete]: I'm not, I'm not fearful of it anymore.
And the same with public speaking, not fearful
[pete]: of public speaking. And a lot of people
I know get scared of these big fears that they
[pete]: have. And I'm not saying to face them.
I'm not telling anybody what to do, but there's
[pete]: great rewards that come from. First
acknowledging what your fears are and then
[pete]: potentially actively seeking them out
to break through that, that barrier to get
[pete]: to a state of neutrality where you find
either way.
[Tyson]: Yeah, that's a great quote. I'm probably
misquoting it or misattributing it but I'm
[Tyson]: pretty sure it was Carl Jung who said
that which you need most is finding the place
[Tyson]: you least want to look and that really
resonates with me especially in regard to your
[Tyson]: surfing analogy. I mean I live on coastal
Victoria, I'm down in Point Lonsdale and I
[Tyson]: mean there's plenty of beaches here
not so many sharks that we see at least but
[Tyson]: I share that fear. I've just finished
a documentary called The Deepest Dive. I'm
[Tyson]: not sure if you've seen that one, about
a whole heap of free divers. And it follows
[Tyson]: the journey of one Italian girl on
the hunt to break the world record to reach
[Tyson]: like 104 meters of depth. And just
the psychology of that is sort of fresh on
[Tyson]: my mind. But with your specific example,
I find it really interesting because our culture
[Tyson]: almost worships the idea of fame and
celebrity and so many of us. are on the hustle,
[Tyson]: on the grind to try and get some level
of notoriety. And once you get to that point,
[Tyson]: which was Pete Evans peak, my kitchen
rules for a lot of people, I guess that's where
[Tyson]: your reputation and a lot of people's
minds come from. Why would you change anything?
[Tyson]: You say what you've got to say, you
do what you've got to do, you act the way you've
[Tyson]: got to act because people know you,
you get a good paycheck, you've got the fame.
[Tyson]: And it does take an incredible amount
of courage. There's a... I'm from the Christian
[Tyson]: tradition and there's a story in the
New Testament where Jesus is at the peak of
[Tyson]: his ministry and he's just done a whole
heap of healings and he's starting, he's both
[Tyson]: become controversial to the religious
leaders who wanted to have the swagger and
[Tyson]: wanted to be recognised for being the
most religious. And then this guy came in who
[Tyson]: was no real respecter of rules and
religion and said, hey, look, essentially look
[Tyson]: at this. And it caused up a stir. And
he had such a big following. And at the peak
[Tyson]: of that, he started to say some real
controversial things. Uh, and he was like,
[Tyson]: look, if you don't like it, don't follow
me. I'm happy. Sweet. But he, this is, and
[Tyson]: for me, it's a, it's a side of like
the old Jesus story that you don't often get,
[Tyson]: we often just get this blonde hair,
blue white, beautiful, nice man, just doing
[Tyson]: everything, but he, he could be an
asshole at times to the people that he, um,
[Tyson]: he upset. But what I like about that
story, and I mean, what a beautiful comparison
[Tyson]: to be compared to the man Jesus himself.
But what I like about your story as well is
[Tyson]: at the peak of, you know, for lack
of a better term, the peak of your fame, peak
[Tyson]: of your powers, you chose to do the
things which caused the stir, at least on My
[Tyson]: Kitchen Rules, and walk your own path
to a degree. Or to a big degree, but I guess
[Tyson]: one thing I've been fascinated about,
and I just could not find an answer to, there's
[Tyson]: so much speculation about actually
what happened with My Kitchen rules, and what
[Tyson]: was the final straw? Was it ratings?
Was it controversy? Was it your views? Like,
[Tyson]: what was it that saw the end of that
road for you at MKR?
[pete]: Yeah, it was really simple. They'd actually
stopped filming. We did 11 seasons and then
[pete]: they put it on hold for, I think they
put it on hold for two or three years. And
[pete]: so my contract had run out and they
were uncertain when they would ever bring it
[pete]: back. And then when I was canceled,
so to speak, I knew that was the nail on the
[pete]: head, so to speak, of my mainstream
adventure. at this particular point in time,
[pete]: I just knew that once I had about 12
or 15 people that I worked with, partnerships.
[pete]: business relationships and within the
space of 24 hours, I was dumped by pretty much
[pete]: all of them. I was canceled, basically,
you could call it that. But I wasn't canceled
[pete]: from MKR at that particular point in
time, but I just knew that they didn't need
[pete]: to cancel because we're already on hold.
And I think it was two years later that they
[pete]: rebooted it, but I never got the call.
And I knew that I wouldn't get the call and
[pete]: it wasn't so much as... That... they
cancelled me because they didn't. The show
[pete]: was just put on hold for a few years.
So I had an amazing experience on that network
[pete]: for 11 years. I created some wonderful
friendships with the executive team, with the
[pete]: heads of the network over the years,
as I've done with every other network that
[pete]: I've been with. I've been with three
different networks, Channel Nine, Channel Seven,
[pete]: and Foxtel. And as I've said, my door
is always open to anybody. I've never, and
[pete]: you'd be hard pressed to find somebody
in any of those networks. I believe that would
[pete]: say a bad word about me and my work
ethic and the way that I showed up each and
[pete]: every day. to do my job and to promote
those networks and the shows that I was associated
[pete]: with and my willingness to work in a
team. And what's interesting in that was I've
[pete]: been self-employed since I was 19. So
my only job over the last three decades, apart
[pete]: from the ones that I've created as a
business owner and an entrepreneur, was when
[pete]: I was an employee for television networks.
So because I was an employee, it was a change
[pete]: for me from being my own boss to being
a contracted employee. So I had to basically
[pete]: go back into it, wear a different hat
where I had people above me and I respected
[pete]: them wholeheartedly and as I said, created
great relationships with all of the team there.
[pete]: But yeah, I think that time is finished
now. My wife and I are creating these little
[pete]: cooking videos again. I took a couple
of years off the tools in front of a camera,
[pete]: and now my wife and I are making these
little three to four minute cooking videos,
[pete]: and it's so much fun. We've filmed six
of them in our outdoor kitchen, and it's so
[pete]: beautiful. So we're sharing that content
out through our social medias. media networks
[pete]: at the moment on Instagram, Facebook
and also on Telegram. And I'm having a ball
[pete]: doing that and my wife is a wonderful
videographer and editor and director and producer
[pete]: and yeah, we make a really good team.
And I'm doing the things that I've always loved
[pete]: to do, which is share delicious recipes,
talk about how important they are for long-term
[pete]: regenerative health. And yeah, I'm very
grateful for that. that experience in that
[pete]: TV landscape, that mainstream media
world, because what it allowed me to do was
[pete]: face my fears of being seen, being heard,
being very, very comfortable in front of a
[pete]: camera and learning my craft. in such
a great way. Because when I was in a restaurant,
[pete]: I owned restaurants for nearly three
decades. My team and I, my partners and I,
[pete]: we opened five restaurants over the
years, won many awards, had a catering business,
[pete]: had team building events, as well as
nightclubs. modern Australian restaurants,
[pete]: cafes, Italian restaurants. So it was
such a wonderful thing. But delving into the
[pete]: TV landscape as a celebrity chef, what
that actually allowed me to do was really expand
[pete]: my repertoire, my cooking repertoire,
because I needed to become an expert on all
[pete]: different cuisines. When you have a
restaurant per se, you're sort of limited by
[pete]: the style of restaurant that you open,
the price point, and I guess the clientele
[pete]: and what they like. So by delving into
the celebrity chef world where we became an
[pete]: educator on all things food, what that
allowed me to do was take my cooking experience
[pete]: or repertoire from this level to a huge
level. and I got to travel the world. I used
[pete]: to do a TV show in America on PBS for
eight years, leading up to the COVID lockdowns,
[pete]: where I traveled through probably 35
states in America. And I got to work with some
[pete]: of the most amazing chefs in that country.
I never got showed in Australia. I was doing
[pete]: My Kitchen Rules and this American show.
And, yeah, I'm so grateful because I made some
[pete]: wonderful connections. But I also have
learned so much about how to cook and to deliver
[pete]: so many wonderful recipes and you know
I continue to this day like even last night
[pete]: I'm on social media looking at different
recipes, different ideas out there because
[pete]: it's this constant state of evolving.
And I love it. I love food. I, you know, it's
[pete]: just such a beautiful thing this morning.
You know, a couple of hours ago, I made my
[pete]: daughter poached eggs on paleo toast
with some salmon caviar, some cracked pepper,
[pete]: good quality sea salt, and some fresh
basil out of their little herb garden. And
[pete]: we sat there
[Tyson]: ..
[pete]: together and I don't usually eat breakfast,
but I didn't want her to eat alone today. And,
[pete]: uh, we sat there and she's like, how
good is this? She's like, it's good dad. It's
[pete]: really good. Yeah. The perfect poached
egg with salmon caviar on top a teaspoon of
[pete]: salmon caviar. It's a treat for us,
but I know she loves it. And just something
[pete]: so simple that took me five minutes
just brought so much joy to both of us. And
[pete]: that's what food can do. Sorry if I've
gone off tangent here, but yeah, mainstream
[pete]: media was a, was a wonderful gift, one
that I, I really honed my skills with. And,
[pete]: you know, I'm at the age of turning
50 next month, and I reckon I've got another
[pete]: 50 years at least of learning more about
food and sharing that information for those
[pete]: that choose to tap into it.
[Tyson]: Yeah, I'm always interested in people
who are involved in any super creative process.
[Tyson]: For me, I do stand-up comedy here in
Melbourne, and that's a huge passion of mine.
[Tyson]: The way you explained food just then
is, in many ways, the way I explain, or at
[Tyson]: least the way I can approach stand-up
comedy. I can imagine in the world of food,
[Tyson]: there's a lot of bombing, there's a
lot of trial, there's a lot of error, there's
[Tyson]: a lot of good meals, there's a lot
of bad meals. And For me, I often go out there
[Tyson]: and it blows my mind how on one night
a particular joke in a particular room can
[Tyson]: get a particular response and you take
that exact thing to a brand new room the next
[Tyson]: night and it can fall absolutely flat
and that constant never being able to completely
[Tyson]: perfect what it is. Or you just can't
put your finger on something and say okay this
[Tyson]: is the one key ingredient that makes
this a good stand up set. I've seen great stand
[Tyson]: up comics bomb and I've seen terrible
stand up comics kill. for whatever reason and
[Tyson]: what keeps me coming back to that and
just trying to figure it out is just further
[Tyson]: unpacking whatever it is that triggers
a certain response. And the way you spoke about
[Tyson]: food just then, I can see how it's
a lifelong passion, a lifelong commitment because
[Tyson]: I mean, the egg meal that you cooked
for your daughter this morning sounded unbelievable.
[Tyson]: And as good as you are, and I don't
know, unless you're in that restaurant where
[Tyson]: you're constantly churning out the
exact same meal with the exact same ingredients.
[Tyson]: on a daily basis. I imagine there's
quite a lot of variance for someone who's pretty
[Tyson]: focused on delivering the best meal.
There must be a big range of flavors to look
[Tyson]: out for that is kind of hard to perfect.
[pete]: Yeah, chefs are always striving, I'll
generalize here because I think we all do,
[pete]: but we're always striving for perfection,
right? And it's such a, it's why a lot of us
[pete]: go a little nuts, because we've got,
we learn this craft and it's such a beautiful
[pete]: craft. When you really think about the...
When you really think about what food represents,
[pete]: it's always been about survival. Survival
of any species. We need to eat to survive.
[pete]: And if we look back to our indigenous
or ancient ancestors, food would have been
[pete]: the number one priority out of everything.
Always has been. And I believe it always should
[pete]: be. And I very seldom use the word should.
But this day and age, we seem to have lost
[pete]: that. that common sense or that perception
of that vital piece of information, which is
[pete]: we used to have food as the, food and
shelter, no doubt, and love and connection
[pete]: as the top things that we would spend
our lives searching for, whether it's developing
[pete]: tools to enable us to hunt better. to
enable us to strip that piece of meat or fish
[pete]: and human ingenuity, how to create fishing
nets, for instance, how to catch those fish
[pete]: in the river or the lake, how to create
that spear, how to create that bow and arrow,
[pete]: how can we get something that is so
vital for us and for our tribe and family and
[pete]: community? And how do we then learn
how to make it even more delicious? You know,
[pete]: and I just think it's when you start
to travel around the world and see all the
[pete]: different cultures and all the
[pete]: ingenuity again of how they've learned
to create these classic meals whether you're
[pete]: in Italy India, Korea, China, Southern
America, Africa, the Pacific Islands, Australia,
[pete]: New Zealand, wherever it may be, we
have learnt to find the local ingredients.
[pete]: and blend them together in certain ways
to create something that used to just give
[pete]: a sustenance and life into something
that is so fricking pleasurable. Like that
[pete]: smile on my daughter and my face this
morning, a simple poached egg with runny yolk,
[pete]: perfectly cooked white, golden toast,
little drizzle of olive oil, just the right
[pete]: amount of salt and pepper. and we as
a species have created these gastronomic masterpieces.
[pete]: You know, whether it be a piece of steak
with salt, pepper, and a wedge of lemon on
[pete]: the side, you know, classic Italian
dish. Whether it be a complex curry from India
[pete]: that has 20 different spices in the
perfect ratios that's been simmered, goat on
[pete]: the bone, goat curry, you know, for
hours. Whether it be a noodle dish from Malaysia.
[pete]: And I'll use that as an example. If
you go into the street stalls, you know, there'll
[pete]: be a woman there or a man there that's
been cooking the same dish, one dish all their
[pete]: life. And they're taught by their mothers
or their parents taught by their parents, taught
[pete]: by their grandparents. And they cook
it each and every day. We look at Japan, we
[pete]: look at the sushi sashimi masters that
just take raw pieces of fish, slice it, serve
[pete]: it to you with, whether it be a little
sea salt or some tamari or salt. sauce on top
[pete]: or brush a lemon juice over the top
and you eat a raw piece of fish or you're traveling
[pete]: through coastal town and there's fresh
oysters and there's someone shucking an oyster
[pete]: for you at San Francisco fish markets
and they open an oyster and present it to you
[pete]: and you don't put anything on it you
know we've turned this art of sustenance and
[pete]: survival into this pleasurable experience
And then if we look back over the last five,
[pete]: six, seven decades, fast food, the industrialization
of food, the convenience of fast food, the
[pete]: packet meals, you know, I'm not saying
they're not delicious, but what have we sacrificed
[pete]: for some of that convenience when in
reality, like I just told you, we can actually
[pete]: cook a meal in five minutes, 10 minutes
and nourish ourselves and still have a pleasurable
[pete]: experience with certain spices, certain
herbs. certain combinations of flavors. But
[pete]: what are the detrimental effects that
we're seeing in society as a Western population
[pete]: especially, through the choice of and
the acceptance that food is just. another thing
[pete]: that we have to do each and every day
and it becomes a chore for people. Fuck, what
[pete]: am I going to cook today? Do I have
to cook something again for the kids? Do I
[pete]: have to do this? Why do I have to do
this? You know, maybe I just ring up someone
[pete]: and they'll just deliver something.
Maybe I'll just get the take-home meal that's
[pete]: already prepared, that's cooked with
bad seed oil, it's cooked with fruit, caged
[pete]: chickens, that's cooked with whatever
it may be, non-organic produce. And I think
[pete]: we're going through that shift at the
moment where we're really witnessing the downhill
[pete]: effects of that convenience and not
putting that, putting food back up to the one
[pete]: of the most important things in our
life. And I'm trusting in this experience that
[pete]: this has to happen for the shift and
the evolution to come full circle where we
[pete]: do place such importance back again
on what food means to us as a species. And,
[pete]: and I think it's coming, you know, for
those that are willing to see and willing to
[pete]: act, you know, it's all very good to
have the knowledge that food will help me stay
[pete]: out of the medical system. If I choose
to do it. But how do we act on that? And that's
[pete]: what. We're continuing to do my wife
and I by sharing these recipes each week. Cause
[pete]: here's another one. Hopefully this invites
you to replicate it, you know, and by the end
[pete]: of the year, we'll have 50 recipes,
video recipes. And you know, that's a great
[pete]: little repertoire for people to have
in their toolkit, so to speak, and we'll continue
[pete]: to do this every year. So, you know,
50 years time, there should be 50 times 50.
[pete]: What's that two and
[Tyson]: That's
[pete]: a half
[Tyson]: heaps.
[pete]: thousand recipes. You know, and I've
actually produced over 2000 recipes over the
[pete]: last 10 plus years in my cookbook. So
all of that's out there for people to be able
[pete]: to access if they choose to. But it's
about action. It's about how do we act upon
[pete]: that? How do I fall in love with what
people call it sure? How can I, you know, because
[pete]: if we again go back, it was the most
important thing in our lives as a species.
[pete]: How do we again go back to putting it
on that pedestal to make it so bloody delicious
[pete]: that it doesn't become a chore, that
it actually becomes a dance, it becomes this
[pete]: loving gift that we give to ourselves
and we give to others, you know? And we see,
[pete]: I mean, I'll use Kyle and Jackie O here
as an example, you know? We've seen weight
[pete]: fluctuations with them, health issues
with them as well over the years. And you know,
[pete]: I sometimes wonder, is my connection
with them by going through these things, is
[pete]: that part of their onward journey for
them to perhaps take some of that information
[pete]: by me being on? Because it's no accident
that I'm on their program either. And nothing
[pete]: is by coincidence either. And... I'm
very careful not to try to find the threads
[pete]: of connections, but I'm always aware
that there's infinite amount of possibilities
[pete]: that happen when people connect. You
know, whether it's me appearing on your podcast
[pete]: here and what the ripple effect from
that will be, whether it's one listener, whether
[pete]: it's yourself, whether I gained something
from this connection that I never thought possible.
[pete]: You know, in six months time, I might
reach out to you about free diving because
[pete]: you've mentioned it and go, Oh, I remember
you talking about that. I want to explore that,
[pete]: you know? And when we have that state
of curiosity about this web of life, this nature
[pete]: of reality that we find ourselves in,
that there are infinite possibilities and nothing
[pete]: is by circumstance, nothing is by coincidence,
that anything can manifest out of these, what
[pete]: many people will call perhaps mundane
coincidences or interactions. And, you know,
[pete]: I go back to that Kyle and Jackie O
that we've had so many interactions. And I
[pete]: often wonder, I'm like, wonder what
this is about, you know? Whether, you know,
[pete]: perhaps Kyle will come on this adventure
with us. And I have put it out to him over
[pete]: the years. I've said to his producer,
Kyle ever needs any help with diet and nutrition.
[pete]: I'm here for him. You know, and, and
I love that about the mystery of life that
[pete]: you never know. But if we don't show
up and make those connections, you know, I
[pete]: think the world. Yeah. All I'd say is.
always have the question mark about every choice
[pete]: that we make, that we don't know the
implications of where, where it may lead for
[pete]: yourself or for the person that you're
interacting with, or the people that you're
[pete]: interacting with. And that's what I
love about this journey is the, is the mysteries,
[pete]: the unknown, it's the uncertainty is
of the, the potentiality of everything. that
[pete]: we choose to do and then
[Tyson]: Yeah.
[pete]: letting it go. And
[Tyson]: This.
[pete]: letting go of any expectation.
[Tyson]: This curiosity theme is one that's
been big in my mind. I've got a three year
[Tyson]: old boy, he's three next month. I've
got a nine month old, he's not quite there
[Tyson]: yet. And it's a classic cliche, but
I guess it's a cliche for a reason. And just
[Tyson]: to spend so much time with my little
man, like we'll go over, we live quite close
[Tyson]: to a lake and there's a massive, like
an endless infinite, if you're three, pile
[Tyson]: of stones that are at the lake. And
my kid loves to go over, pick up a stone, chuck
[Tyson]: it in the water, ask about the ripples,
look at the bugs, look at the dirt. Just it's
[Tyson]: unbelievable the things that he's curious
in that I'll just blindly look over. And that's
[Tyson]: just one of, I'm not kidding like hundreds
of examples. And it's been a little asterisk
[Tyson]: in my own mind lately that I've got
to stay curious because as I mentioned earlier,
[Tyson]: I'm 36. You said you're 50 next month.
As you get older, I think there's a lot of
[Tyson]: people. And another cliche is that
cynical grumpy old man. And I think part of
[Tyson]: that grumpy old man facet is they've
just got too familiar with every element of
[Tyson]: their life. They think they know everything
that there is to know. I spoke to an exercise
[Tyson]: physiologist on here the other day,
John Quinn, and he was explaining, mate, you
[Tyson]: know, you know, sweet fuck all really,
like in comparison to what there is to know,
[Tyson]: you know, sweet fuck all. So keep asking
questions. And it's, regardless of whether
[Tyson]: it's comedy in my regards or cooking
in your regards or your wellness retreats or
[Tyson]: just even the way that you speak about
Kyle and Jackie and the so-called mundane conversations
[Tyson]: that you might take part in. It feels
so much bigger when you take that lens and
[Tyson]: apply it to every situation rather
than, I've gotta get past this conversation
[Tyson]: because I've got an appointment at
four and then I gotta go home, cook dinner
[Tyson]: at six. Curiosity, in my opinion at
the moment, is one of the most overlooked values
[Tyson]: or overlooked skills that a person
can curate. Is that something that you've trained
[Tyson]: in yourself or have you just naturally
always been a really curious guy?
[pete]: Yeah, interesting question. Um, yeah,
interesting question. Make myself go crazy
[pete]: with that question. Hello.
[Tyson]: I'm sorry to do it to you. Don't give
him another story to share. He's gone mental
[Tyson]: with the curiosity question.
[pete]: I don't know, it's...
[pete]: I think as we go, you know, we will,
I'll use myself as an example. I go up and
[pete]: I get down, you know, some years I'll
read a lot of books. Then all of a sudden I
[pete]: don't feel like reading, you know, sometimes
I'll dive into documentaries and then all of
[pete]: a sudden I just want to watch some big
bang theory or something like that. You know,
[pete]: sometimes I'm really focused on building
my entrepreneurial ship endeavors, you know,
[pete]: business, this, that, the other. And
some years I'm like, you know, it doesn't feel
[pete]: like it's flowing at the moment, you
know. And I'm curious about that too. Why do
[pete]: we have these? these stages where we
go in and out or up and down or more excitement
[pete]: and then less sort of retreating so
to speak and contemplation and then just being,
[pete]: you know, and I think that is part of.
the mystery of life as well. You know, we can
[pete]: so psychoanalyze or analyze ourselves
to the nth degree because if we compare ourselves
[pete]: with others or our older self or our
potential future self, I think that is a potential
[pete]: recipe for disaster, so to speak, because
You know, I'll give you a great example. I
[pete]: go on Instagram, um, every couple
[Tyson]: I didn't
[pete]: of
[Tyson]: know
[pete]: days.
[Tyson]: you were allowed on there.
[pete]: Yeah, I'm allowed on there. I go and
I've got a certain amount of followers that
[pete]: I follow. And, um, and some days it
really triggers me. I'm like, fuck, these people
[pete]: are just putting out the same bullshit,
same content over and it's nearly like a self-fulfilling
[pete]: prophecy that, that they just have to
regurgitate information out. Otherwise, you
[pete]: know, my, my perception is if they are
fearful that if they don't churn out information
[pete]: daily, then who are they? Will they
lose relevance? You know, and I've been in
[pete]: that situation myself where it was like,
I've got to do it. People expect this of me.
[pete]: I've got to do it.
[Tyson]: Yeah.
[pete]: But do I really have to do it? Do I
really have to meet other people's expectations?
[pete]: What? Who am I to understand other people's
expectations on me and why would I ever live
[pete]: my life based on anybody else's expectations
of who I am or who I have created, you know
[pete]: and And I think that's a very curious
thing to investigate for anybody that is in
[pete]: the public space, whether they're a
podcast, whether they're a content creator,
[pete]: whether they're an influencer, whether
they're a celebrity, you know, who are you
[pete]: if that all disappears? You know, are
you doing it for validation? Are you doing
[pete]: it for likes? Are you doing it for just
for financial reward? Are you doing it just
[pete]: to stay relevant? Are you doing it because
you're insecure? Why have I created this persona
[pete]: where I'm famous and people are looking
for towards me? Who am I? What the fuck have
[pete]: I created here?
[Tyson]: Hehehehe
[pete]: Like your mate, the physiologist. We
know nothing, yet we elevate ourselves into
[pete]: this position of sharing knowledge.
Who gives me the right to share my knowledge?
[pete]: Who? Why would I believe that sharing
a paleo diet is right for everybody? You know,
[pete]: no wonder I get criticism from mainstream
media. They're the only ones that dietitians
[pete]: should be sharing the information on
high fat, high carb diets, low fat diets. working
[pete]: with multinational food corporations,
they're the ones that have done the work in
[pete]: universities.
[Tyson]: The
[pete]: So
[Tyson]: experts.
[pete]: the experts, exactly. You know, we,
the only expert that we are is the expert over
[pete]: our own experience and our own lives.
We, you know, I think it's folly to, to put
[pete]: ourselves in a position where we're
experts over anybody else's unique life story.
[pete]: we can, if we choose to be in that position,
we can definitely offer guidance from our own
[pete]: perceptions or from a cumulative experience.
And some of those simple things can be go to
[pete]: bed early, drink clean water. Work on
your relationships, work on yourself, eat a
[pete]: beautiful diet, get out into nature,
cultivate beautiful friendships, do something
[pete]: that you love, continue to learn if
that's your path, these types of things. But
[pete]: going back to when I'm looking at Instagram,
I look at this, I'm like, fuck, there's a lot
[pete]: of work that a lot of people need to
be doing and they're so-called experts in this
[pete]: space. Because it's like, it's nearly
like... grasping at straws to stay relevant.
[pete]: And I don't mean that in a negative
state, because obviously there's something
[pete]: in the that triggers me as well. What
triggers you individually is something that
[pete]: obviously triggers yourself that you've
still got to work on or still come to peace
[pete]: with in ourselves. So the moral of that
story. is be yourself and again going back
[pete]: to and this isn't advice this is just
me talking um that comparison with others especially
[pete]: in this day and age is i think a recipe
for disaster in certain circumstances and when
[pete]: we can, and I don't want to sound egotistical
here, but when we can come to know ourselves
[pete]: and love ourselves in complete,
[pete]: with completeness I guess would be the
correct terminology or unconditionally, when
[pete]: we love ourselves unconditionally, warts
and all, you know, love our fears, love our
[pete]: insecurities, be aware of them, love
the imperfections in our perfection. you know,
[pete]: and stop judging others for their imperfections
and their perfections and celebrate everybody's
[pete]: uniqueness, including our own, including
our own, how we look, how we think, how we
[pete]: behave. Once we love that in us, all
of it, the light, the dark, the good, the bad,
[pete]: the right, the wrong decisions that
we make, you know, once we accept that as who
[pete]: we are and we're aware of all of who
we are, you know, then. that those pathways
[pete]: can present themselves in a beautiful
way where those coincidences, those questions
[pete]: that we ask ourselves, why do I behave
like this? What is that pattern? Why do I keep
[pete]: attracting this into my life? Whether
it be financial, whether it be relationships,
[pete]: whether it be whatever it may be, those
patterns. Why do I sabotage myself when I want
[pete]: to be healthy? Why do I sabotage this
relationship when it's a great relationship?
[pete]: Why do I sabotage that business? Once
we start to ask those questions, then we can
[pete]: delve in and no doubt the answers or
the paths will start to open up for us. And
[pete]: it could be that Instagram person that
we follow. It could be this podcast. could
[pete]: be free breathing or free diving, you
know, breath work. Fuck, I like that. How did
[pete]: that person go down 100 meters? I'd
love to be able to go down five meters. I can't
[pete]: even do that. How do they do that? What
a great experience that would be for me to
[pete]: overcome that. What would that allow
me to do in the future that I'm fearful of,
[pete]: you know? And again, I'm going pretty
deep here and I don't even know whether I've
[pete]: answered your question. But that's okay,
I don't care.
[Tyson]: No, I mean it's good thoughts man,
I really enjoy it I really enjoy it I know
[Tyson]: we've got a few minutes left before
I let you go I'm just curious to know what
[Tyson]: are you doing with your days now? I
mean in terms of the wellness retreats and
[Tyson]: you sound like you're busy with your
wife and you're still creating you You're still
[Tyson]: getting out there and surfing and it
sounds like you live in a more fun more exciting
[Tyson]: life than maybe ever before Contrary
to many believe but what do you feel your days
[Tyson]: with at the moment?
[pete]: Well, I will state that I've always
lived a... a very fruitful existence. I've
[pete]: been surfing since the age of 14, and
my daughters now are 17 and 18, and I taught
[pete]: them to surf when they were the age
of four, and we still do that together. And
[pete]: I love being outside in nature as often
as possible. I love hanging out with my wife,
[pete]: I love seeing my kids, I love cooking,
I love connecting with people. As you mentioned,
[pete]: we run a wellness retreat and a cooking
retreat. we run men's retreats, women's retreats,
[pete]: wellness retreats, fasting retreats,
cooking retreats, breathwork retreats. And
[pete]: we've just opened our retreat up for
other facilitators so they can host their own
[pete]: retreat. So if you wanna bring up seven
or eight people and have a retreat, the door
[Tyson]: Awesome,
[pete]: is welcome.
[Tyson]: eh?
[pete]: And if there's any health professionals
out here that are looking for a wonderful seven
[pete]: cabin retreat space in nature with a
free flowing spring fed creek, we've got ice
[pete]: bath, sauna, spa, swimming pools, swimming
holes, waterfalls, red light
[Tyson]: Oh,
[pete]: machines in every room.
[Tyson]: I might come up this afternoon. Ha
ha
[pete]: I
[Tyson]: ha.
[pete]: know fire pit where we get to hang out
by the fire. I get to do the cooking and my
[pete]: wife does the desserts and my wife takes
people for tea ceremonies and we facilitate
[pete]: breath work as well. So we do that on
most weekends, which is super, super fun. and
[pete]: creating content as we mentioned, new
videos, putting together a new program at the
[pete]: moment that will be a culmination of
my recipes for health professionals that wish
[pete]: to give it to their clients or their
patients so that we've got a one-stop database
[pete]: that people can access our recipes because
again it's the action that is needed it's not
[pete]: so much the knowledge it's knowledge
[pete]: continuing to record one or two podcasts
a week myself, which is super fun. So that's
[pete]: on the evolvenetwork.tv platform. But
yeah, I absolutely love this life and I absolutely
[pete]: love doing the things that I love. And
I think that's the key to long-term regenerative
[pete]: health at the core of it, apart from
diet and sleep and good water and wonderful
[pete]: relationships. What we can do as individuals,
that brings us joy, that ignites our passion,
[pete]: that puts a smile on our face. And we
know what that is, each and every one of us,
[pete]: some of us might have forgotten it,
but we know deep down, like your child, throwing
[pete]: rocks into the lake. You know, that
brings him joy, digging around, finding those
[pete]: rocks. That's one thing that brings
joy. I know still to this day, finding a nice
[pete]: rock by a river or a lake and skimming
the stones, that brings joy. And one of the
[pete]: things that I firmly have come to believe
is our purpose in life is to... Remember the
[pete]: things that brought us joy as children
or in our adult life. And if you don't know
[pete]: what that is, be curious and explore.
everything that's available to us, whether
[pete]: it's gardening, whether it's painting,
whether it's music, whether it's dancing, whether
[pete]: it's reading, whether it's writing,
whether it's some sort of sporting activity
[pete]: or sporting activities or exercise activities
or volunteering adventures, whatever it is,
[pete]: you know, we're all unique. So again,
that comparison, we've got to be very careful
[pete]: of, you know, for me, I love. surfing,
I love skiing, I love wakeboarding, I love
[pete]: things to do with going fast and being
in some sort of relationship with nature whereas
[pete]: other people like team sports for instance
they like to be surrounded by other people
[pete]: in a team um find those things that
bring you joy and do them as often as possible
[pete]: it's so fucking simple it's so simple
and If those things piss off somebody, whether
[pete]: it be a family member or your spouse
or your, your colleagues or whatever it is,
[pete]: you know, put the big question mark
over them. Why is this triggering you that
[pete]: I get to have as much fun in my life
as possible? Yeah. What is that triggering
[pete]: for you? You know, and I think that
could be, you know, bring it back to myself.
[pete]: I think that could be one of the reasons
that I'm so polarizing for a lot of people
[pete]: is that they see somebody that looks
healthy, seems to be having a wonderful life,
[pete]: doesn't seem to be fazed by any of the
negativity that mainstream media and others
[pete]: can harness against such an individual.
yet seems bulletproof. Why is that triggering
[pete]: to so many people? And obviously it's
their own shit that brings up. Why, how can
[pete]: this guy keep fucking doing what he's
doing? Like I would have, I would have run
[pete]: away and hidden a corner because that
much level of scrutiny in the public sphere,
[pete]: I possibly couldn't deal with that.
Fuck, I don't like this guy because he's still
[pete]: there. You know, what has he got that?
How can he cope with that? I can't even deal
[pete]: with it from my own fucking parents.
I can't
[Tyson]: I'm
[pete]: even
[Tyson]: sorry.
[pete]: deal with it from my own husband, my
own wife. My own
[Tyson]: I'm going
[pete]: work
[Tyson]: to go
[pete]: colleagues
[Tyson]: ahead
[pete]: give
[Tyson]: and
[pete]: me
[Tyson]: turn
[pete]: shit
[Tyson]: it over
[pete]: and I can't deal with it.
[Tyson]: to
[pete]: He's copying it
[Tyson]: the
[pete]: on
[Tyson]: audience.
[pete]: a national
[Tyson]: So, I'm going to
[pete]: stage.
[Tyson]: turn it over
[pete]: Yet he still
[Tyson]: to
[pete]: smiles.
[Tyson]: the audience. So, I'm
[pete]: He's
[Tyson]: going to turn it over to the
[pete]: still going out.
[Tyson]: audience.
[pete]: He's still created a business that brings
him joy. Even after being canceled. Like I
[pete]: don't like him. Fucking hate him. Whereas,
whereas others are like, I love him. What a
[pete]: champion, you know? And I, and again,
I'm not using this as an egotistical point
[pete]: of view, but I'm just bringing it back
to.
[Tyson]: I feel like you stole my words. No,
go for
[pete]: When,
[Tyson]: that.
[pete]: when you go on your adventure and everybody's
on their adventure of creating that passion,
[pete]: doing the things that bring you joy,
you know, and it triggers other people, see
[pete]: it for what it is, see it for what it
is, it's their stuff. It's not your stuff.
[pete]: If you living your life, cultivating
life force energy by going down the path that
[pete]: brings you ultimate joy and passion,
which allows you to be a better father. a better
[pete]: lover, a better husband, better wife,
better son, better daughter, better communicator,
[pete]: better boss, better employee, better
carer, better giver, better receiver. Yeah.
[pete]: I think that ticks a lot of boxes, you
know, and if it aggravates other people, you
[pete]: know, see it for what it is, bless them,
love them, wish them well on their journey
[pete]: of discovery, and hopefully they will
discover the things that bring them joy instead
[pete]: of attacking you. for the things that
bring you joy.
[Tyson]: Well said man well said Pete I'm disappointed.
I told you an hour and not seven. I could keep
[Tyson]: talking to you
[pete]: Hehehehehe
[Tyson]: asking questions That was a whole heap
of fun man. I really enjoy it. I'm a big fan
[Tyson]: I'm really motivated by yours, especially
after the last couple of years. I thought I
[Tyson]: was pretty Blending it turns out. I'm
quite a loudmouth when it comes to things.
[Tyson]: I highly disagree with this Well, so
it's been nice to see a bloke like yourself
[Tyson]: sharing an opinion So confidently coppin
a bit of shit and keep swinging having fun.
[Tyson]: So Mate, thanks for the work you're
doing. Thanks for the smiles that you keep
[Tyson]: bringing as you do it. I appreciate
you stopping by here.
[pete]: Thanks, Tyson, and thank you so much.
I love you, brother, and thank you everybody
[pete]: for listening to us and watching this.
And yeah, don't believe a thing that I say.
[pete]: Ha ha ha.
[Tyson]: We see you later. We see you later
everybody.
[pete]: See ya.
[Tyson]: Man, unreal. That was...